Colin Cowherd thinks Clemson and Florida State are SEC bound!
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B10 needs to check their CFB championship case.
They’re still talking about the ONE time they beat Clemson, out of FIVE attempts…
I think you mean the Big 2 maybe 3(Penn State has a case for 94 I guess).
@@commodorezero Penn state has a case but not for football… cough cough**
@@Grayson950815right and don't forget that one time beating Bama. That makes the 2 -12 against SEC teams in bowl games. Arkansas was their first win over an sec team in a bowl game.
@@Grayson950815Penn state ( before joining the big 10) under Joe Paterno was a football powerhouse. They feared no one .
Clemson ranks above many of the BiG10 schools nationally in academics.... So does Florida State
Not the one he mentioned. In terms of prestige and academics Clemson isnt close to schools like Michigan, Northwestern, USC etc
@@Scott-vk8cr I'm speakingb of pure academic ranking.... The certification has nothing to do with prestige because prestige isn't measurable.
@@jarreddunlap7065 ok look at the ranking. Clemson ranks 77th in the US news and world report. Thats not close to the level of these big 10 schools that Colin mentioned. Heck thats worse than almost all of the big 10 schools. Ive been to many countries and names like Michigan, USC, Northwestern are all well known around the world. Thats prestige. Clemson is just a regular US university that was once good at football
The academics thing is a giant scam. It's just an excuse for them to tack another ten thousand on to your student loan.
@@Scott-vk8crcool story FSU nor Clemson would prefer the Big 10 anyway. Traveling would be ridiculous.. put them in the SEC
Fan bases wouldn’t mix at all Colin is right on this one
Most Michigan fans never took a class at Michigan. So it would be Midwest rednecks versus Southern rednecks.
So much for your "fanbases" argument.
Never even been to a FSU game lol
When are people, especially many media members going to get it? It is not about football fit, or academic fit. IT'S ABOUT MONEY end of story.
Moving to the big ten would not be beneficial in the long term for Florida state
Says who?
FSU is #53 in the new USNews rankings which would put them 6th amongst the current 14 members in the B10 conference.
I agree but I do feel like the BIG10 would shoot their shot at getting a foot in the door in Florida and the southeast region. FSU and Clemson definitely seem more like a direct fit for the SEC IMHO.
The SEC doesn't need them.
They bith had their shot to become SEC schools. Bowden came iut publicly and said he didnt want anything to do with the backyard wars that is the SEC. It was tough enough bto get teams up against rivals Clemson, Miami and Florida every year, much less having that every weekend in the SEC .
@@thomasblankinship98Bowden didn't control, which conference the team went to that's up to the Athletic Director and the Board. Also, the SEC was squirrelly about their offer, which wasn't solid until after the ACC deal went through. Plus, that was something like 32 years ago. Even the SEC Network says FSU feels like an SEC team after curb stomping LSU
Clemson has an acceptance rate below 50% and has been routinely ranked in the top 30 public universities
But dabo who can barely put a sentence together without sounding like a moron is the Coach
Top 30? The schools mentioned by Colin are ranking in the top 15
It's all about the AAU status. It's not required in the B1G, but it's preferred. ASU requirements are too broad to cover here. Two Florida schools were invited this year. USF and Miami. Along with Notre Dame and three others.
“I just feel like this is the right decision.”
Perfectly summarizes modern CFB.
This guy clearly doesn't realize how hard it is to get into Clemson. My friend had to attend junior college to get his grades to a level acceptable for him to even get his scholarship to play football. He's since passed away. Corey Groover #9, was there during the brawl vs SC.
Truth in what he saying
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florida state is an academically elite university.
The Big10 don't win. 2 Championships in 25 years. 0 in bball since 2000. Pathetic. Pretty much every other conference has more in both. Lol.
Any other conference? Let’s take the Big 12, four times the amount of CFP football wins compared to the Big 12. The two PAC-12 schools with CFP wins are now B1G schools. Seven times the wins of the Big 12, starting next season. B1G schools 7 playoff wins, Big 12, 1 playoff win to start off next football season.
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Collin just be chattin
FSU is actually very close to AAU status. They met all of the requirements this last voting cycle.
And yet the B1G schools passed on them and voted for Miami and USF. That’s very telling. FSU should have gotten their vote for AAU.
Florida State is actually ranked higher academically than Penn State, Oregon, Michigan State, Indiana, Ohio State, Iowa, and Nebraska
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I like Colin but it feel like the last few yrs every take or comment he gives is a prepared speech he wrote days before.
One of the worst things taking place in college football is that, territory is becoming less important. Think about this, there’s an SEC EAST, but FSU, Clemson and Miami goes to the Big10? 🤣
Those schools are LITERALLY in the SOUTH EAST!
I feel that Clemson and FSU would go to different conferences...we can be good with Dabo (UA Alum) back in the SEC with GT. FSU and UM can go to B20.
Wisconsin is not a public ivy. FSU is on the tier same as Wisconsin and better than Penn state academically. Around a 30% acceptance rate whereas Wisconsin is 60.4 and PSU is 57. Fsu is right there or better than them.
i am a washington husky fan. in 2016, their playoff game was atlanta. why not in chicago. thats neutral. oregon vs alabama in phoenix. not miami.
@@ld4974 I do realize it is a party school. But so Penn state is right there with it and so is Wisconsin. Just because a school is a party school, doesn’t mean it’s not on the same league as Wisconsin and PSU
I have ki who is a UGA grad as is his wife. Their son had a 4.0 and high SAT marks but was turned down by UGA, but he did get accepted by FSU. 😊
If you live in Florida it helps more to get your kid into FSU which that's the way it should be
Wisconsin IS a public Ivy, like Illinois. Northwestern is a private Ivy.
Why would the teams in the Big 10 or SEC take a pay cut to add FSU or Clemson?
I do believe that they will get an invite after the current media rights end.
FSU top 20 public university in academics
Aged well
Connect the dots! Back in June there were a dozen reports that the B1G had vetted the 5 schools in the ACC they wanted. UNC, Duke, Virginia, Miami and GT. Those 5 along with ND gets the B1G to 24 teams. It’s all been pretty clear since June when these reports came out.
100% right
First take of his I feel okay agreeing with lol
Ohio State doesn’t want Clemson and FSU eating their lunch. They are happy to let in those west coast guys.
If the goal is conference championships, fsu should stay in the acc. If they are dead set on leaving, maybe they got a shot in the big 12. If they are cool with fighting and clawing for 4th or 5th best in the conference every year then yeah try for the big ten or sec.
Colin comments just reinforce the fact that he just likes to talk just to talk. FSU academically definitely fits in Big Ten and they would rather go to the Big Ten.
The Big10 does, but FSU wants some of that academic cred.
Colin shows pure ignorance and bias with false stereotypes lol. Bro’s never even looked at the rankings or stats
Colin is 💯
Penn State is an elite university academically? Well then, FSU will fit in just fine. FSU is ranked #53, tied with Minnesota and ahead of, in order, Michigan State, PENN STATE, Indiana, Iowa, Oregon and Nebraska. Glad to be of service. I wouldn’t want you walking around making a fool of yourself.
I’m all in on being honest and saying it how it is. Like being honest that of college fball players the majority are in college for one reason and that’s to play football and hopefully make it to the next level, and school work/education is a distant 2nd to that. But I also think Collin sounded really douchey, and arrogantly scoffing at the fact the B 10 has the nerve to publicly express the fact they take immense pride in their conference for having and meeting such high academic standards. Yes that does come with the cost of maybe not able to have all the best players every single year because their to stupid for the big10 but the sec has no standards outside of football so they’ll take anyone who meets their standards on the football field and weight room. And no I’m not not knocking them and no I’m not a nerd thinking school and education is all that is important when clearly for a lot of these players it’s not. Football and sports for a lot of kids is their only or the best shot at making and having a successful life and I take absolutely nothing away from that or from them having that mindset
the sec has their patsies as well. last year oregon had to play georgia in atlanta. alabama barely escaped at texas. have florida come to uw, or eugene or salt lake. neutral field for georgia isnt atlanta. neutral field is las vegas, or dallas for oregon vs tennessee. or washington vs florida in denver.
LSU has played everybody everywhere. The rest of the SEC, not so much.
@@eddievangundy4510UCLA is in tap with a home and home with UGA, same for tOSU. We've played Arizona state H&H, Colorado H&H. Oregon was on the H&H schedule at one time but got cancelled.
Kirby has openly stated he's willing to play H&H series with anyone in the country.
Does Florida state not rank top 20 academically?
sec could get north carolina and virginia
Fsu is a top 25 university for academics..
I cant believe i actually heard cowherd say something intelligent and accurate. Time to play the lotto
I think Big ten would love Unc and Uva. Maybe Gatech and Miami. Those 4 are big ten academic level schools.
I mean Clemson and Florida state rank higher in academics than some
Big 10 schools so….
Duke was also vetted along with UNC, Virginia, Miami and GT.
Can’t disagree with Colin here. I think we all agree that FSU & Clemson (especially the fan bases) fit the profile of SEC schools more than B10. But I think they’ll end up having to choose the one that makes the most $$ sense. FSU could give independence a shot again. Their brand is big enough to cut their own deal with networks.
I don't agree with alot of this guy's takes but he is spot on with this one. Although it's not the Ivy or Patriot Leagues, academics is still really important to the B1G and admitting 2 schools, let alone 1, that are not in the AAU and who value football as much as anything seems like a stretch to me. I think there's just one non-AAU school the B1G would admit if it ever went in that direction and we all know what school that is.
Nebraska is the only one that's not in the AAU if I recall and it used to be. It lost its status in 2011
@@SportsSpeak73 You're correct but NE was an AAU member when it was initially admitted. I have no doubt that the B1G would admit ND absent AAU membership.
@@williamfreeman8210 right. That's what I'm saying. Nebraska was admitted cuz they were a member. They just weren't kicked out after the fact. I highly doubt the Big Ten would add a team who wasnt a member. If UNC or Duke wanted in they'd probably admit them. Clemson & FSU....nahhhh
@@SportsSpeak73 I doubt the B1G would invite Duke unless it struck out with GT or UVA or Miami. Duke has that great men's BB program for sure but conference realignment is largely based on FB and Duke FB has mostly been terrible and gets next to the worst viewership numbers in the ACC--Only WF gets worse numbers.
I is Notre Dame not AAU? It's a strong academic school.
I disagree with Colin on FSU. FSU almost joined the AAU during their last meeting. FSU feels like they prefer the B1G. Clemson, I completely agree. Clemson is going to be an SEC school.
The issue is the SEC dont need FSU or Clemson, they are already in the SEC terrority, and tv markets are not that huge.
Big 10 sucks , who cares
AAU lost credibility when they chose USF instead
The B1G AAU members literally voted for 6 other Universities besides FSU. It’s a fact that FSU was in the perfect position to gain AAU and that the B1G could have went with them but did not. It’s very telling. That’s the fact of the matter.
@jansonroberts2616 there's no telling what FSU's status will be when they do eventually leave the ACC. They might already be an AAU member. FSU leaving the ACC won't be as cut and dry as the departures of Texas, Oklahoma, and the Pac 12 schools.
Clemson and Florida State aren't SEC material 😂
But Vanderbilt and Ms State are? LMAO
😂
FSU 3-0 against SEC bums last 2 years
Are you freaking kidding me? What a dumb comment..
LOL
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Clueless take... The University of Florida is academically ranked #1 nationally among public universities!!!
Academics bad...?
Not bad just not at the level of those other teams
I think the big ten would go after Florida st and Miami instead
UF is considered to be among the best public universities in the nation. Vandy, Texas, UGA are also right up there as well and the other SEC schools all excel in at least one field.
So it’s definitely not a “we only care about football “ thing. The SEC has that same energy that BIG does with their academics, but they also have that same mentality with football and the cultures of FSU and Clemson match this.
You got to be kidding me I have known kids that go visit UF and they end up going to different universities because they say the campus is just trash.
@@brandondenney4832 I mean if were talking about construction or dorms not wrong. But, the actual education , research conducted , and for the ROI students get it’s one of the best public schools in the nation and it’s not even close.
Clemson and FSU belong in the SEC.
FSU is ranked in the top 20 academically, that’s BIG10 criteria
No FSU isn't 😂
@@vivahernando1
I see the 2024 ratings are out and FSU is now #23; still above most BIG10 schools
He’s not wrong but UCLA is every bit as much a safety net school as FSU and Clemson
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Fsu is not a very big school when they aren’t winning fans don’t buy tickets, the only reason they are good is because they are in the acc
FSU did not play other ACC teams to win their three national championships.
They are 72-71-6 vs the SEC in our history. Sure it's close but still a winning record.
Yes, 2018-2021 the football program has suffered its first down period In 40 years. 2018 was the teams first losing season in 40 years.
Florida State was beating great programs before they joined the ACC and won big time out of conference games while in the ACC, plenty.
So go ahead and joke all you want... while you can.
As far as our fans not buying tickets unless we're winning, sure there's some drop off. Tallahassee is not the easiest city to travel to for Florida State fans. But even in the down years we still draw 50 to 60k.
Have you ever been to a Miami game?😂
Fully agree....FSU made their name by going on the road and beating plenty of big schools.
By that statement, it shows you don't know much about FSU....you better do a little research.
@@AIRCOOLEDLIFE yes your right I did underestimate them after the LSU GAME