A Historical Perspective to India’s New Citizenship Law.
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- “Is the Citizenship Amendment Act anti-Muslim and pro-Hindu?” Lawyer and writer Abhinav Chandrachud presented a historical perspective to India’s new citizenship law. Thanks to Mumbai Collective: Celebrating Freedom and Pluralism for the footage.
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This is what news channels should be showing instead of their shitty factless debates
Exactly!!
You don't have an ability to read between the lines. At no point of time on time it feels like he is an Advocate...He sounds like a novoice....
CAA is full fledged act and not just one line or one page or one chapter....
The concerns he raised are already taken into account...
Moreover, he is concerned about third gender the chances of which is negligible but he is jot bother about the persecuted minorities...
Watch whole video again, he not even once use word PERSECUTED notwithstanding the fact whole Concept of CAA is based on PERSECUTION....
@@chalmerilexus2072 I guess you need to watch video again 10:51
@@thecreator4541 He cited an example of Iran and Afganistan... As per him it doesn't make sense. In reality, it makes sense because Iran was not the part of undivided India and Afganistan was. So, it is the moral responsibility of India to accommodate persecuted moniorities from three neighboring countries...India is not bound to give citizen to persecuted minorities of each and every country.
@@thecreator4541 He came to PERSECUTION at 10:51 in video of 13 minutes and odd seconds and that too in wrong perspective....great....
Imagine what happened to all the hindus and sikhs who remained in Pakistan?
there are safe
@Peter Griffin OK SO WHAT WE INDIANS CAN DO?
@@sayeed6290 imagine being this delusional
The don't REMAIN
@@sayeed6290 nice joke
See this is how debates on TV should be...there should be some takeaway. No point in yelling at the other party/ies ruthlessly.
see medha if the tv debates had been factual,man I'll tell you half of the people would be auto muted XD
This was a debate?, i did not hear any opposing arguments being given voice ~ all i heard is a very biased portrayal of some facts . Its kinda disgusting when truth is used to assist false narratives.
This is more of a soft persecution rather than a debate. A typical social engineering & brainwashing. Jus because he's wearing a coat & tie & speaks a sophisticated English doesn't always mean he has to be right.
@@maltesharalikatti2818 I never mentioned anything about him being right or wrong and it's really not the point I was trying to make...
Debates need at least two groups of ideas
These kind of knowedgable people required as politicians in this country
Janta chutiya hai Knowledge wale ko satta me nahi ate example atal Bihari Vajpayee ji
You can't really decide just because he has opinions similar to yours or just because he sounds right, this is not how democracy works. We are ought to think rationally and analyze the person before voting for them.
I mean, *what if* he's the kind of person who changes faces or has wrong intentions or motives. Knowledge in the hands of the wrong person is also dangerous. just saying
I doubt he will ever touch politics, his father and grandfather being supreme court judges, he might follow their footsteps
He is son of DY chandrachud son of SC judge
The foundation is strongly built on facts but you left the roof hanging on philosophy.
The main background is covered up. He does not bring up the 1971 Genocide and continuous religious prosecution of Hindus. That is not even brought up. The problem is he has hidden all other constitutional provisions that have answers to his questions and posted all questions as if CAA is the only answer. There are existing laws that take care of so called "Dreamers", naturalization laws, asylum laws. All those routes are still open.
I genuinely don't think this guy was maliciously trying to hide something. Seemed like someone who did all his research and mentioned relevant points.
Or it's also possible that the video was edited and cut short.
But do you really think this awkward guy is trying to HIDE here?
Infact, he's the ONE doing the expose.
Maybe you feel this way because he goes against your beliefs?
Please mention those laws which take cares of the dreamers and asylum law, i really want to know after hearing his contention!
@@saloniprasad1313 don't be fool man who will be next pm. Don't vote based on hate vote for better future. Present situation there is no time for winners and we need new leaders.
@@saloniprasad1313 lol so same case should also be with Muslims of our neighbouring countries , when muslims of neighbouring countries migrate to India why they r given minority ri8s they should also be treated less than Indian Muslims and Hindus why they r given such ri8s providing an upper edge over Indian Hindus. U mean that If any Muslim migrate to our country they should be treated equal to Indian Muslims provide with all the ri8s and all and if Hindus migrate from neighbouring countries to India they should be treated 2nd to Indian Muslims wow 👏👏 such a biased person u r. And why people of India worry about the hindus, Sikhs , Jains who r ill-treated in Pakistan and Bangladesh because they r our people they all were Indians before the partition and the main reason is that they r tortured there , u can't even imagine living being a minority in Pakistan and Bangladesh. There is a video on TH-cam of sikh kids in Pakistan just search it once u can clearly see the fear on the faces of such little kids they don't have any country to go so where they will go ? India opened up gates for such people who r treated badly in neighbouring nations so they can survive here. And none of our leader said that existing Muslims in our country will be deported back to their countries that's just a hoax created by opposition to counter CAA so that they can continue to bring illegal immigrants in India for votes. And u said BJP is responsible for unemployment ri8 ? Root cause of unemployment is such a big population which is because ur Muslims brothers are producing craps like you on such a fast pace
@@asmakhan271 he is soon to be judge of supreme court.
Courtsey his father is next cji and grandfather was also a sc judge perfectly on merit.
That Man is spitting facts like a paan spitter .
This guy is spitting propaganda like spitting cobra...
@@chalmerilexus2072 how so?
@@shikharsrivastava5020 Out of context history references, generalizing CAA provisions, hypothetical scenarios, cherry picking....try to read between the lines Buddy...
@@shikharsrivastava5020 If a person kills another person to earn a living, will it be considered a crime as per law? If yes, then is working to earn a living a crime? If you are 2 or 3 years old and your parants are both in jail is it justified to put you in an orphanage instead of leaving you alone in the house of your parents. There can be millions of arguments. Ask the makers of Pakistan and Bangladesh to take the burden. We had enough of this nonsense for the last 1000 years.
He never talked about prosecuted minorities. He is talking but miles away from CAA. Irrelevant and garbage stuff.
Commonsense: muslims voted for muslim league n created islamic nation not secular nation, they went to Pakistan by own choice. While non-Muslims didn't went to Pakistan by their choice, they were simply stuck as they were living in that part of india which became pakistan. So obviously they would be treated differently from those who went there by choice..
Non sense. There are no registered refugees from these 3 countries other than religions mentioned in CAA. Which was produced by the Intelligence Bureau. Not because of some bias or hatred against anyone.
Well said @utube
Then there were also muslims who did not voted for muslim league and wanted to live in India beacuse they loved their country more. All those muslims and their children are today living in India and we should not treat them differently than Hindus.
@@Nishith8 thank you
@@Nishith8 nice point of view
Literally no words.... Speechless .....
Brut.India kindly share these kind of footage on other social media like Facebook,Twitter,Instagram.
People should know these dialect....
Awesome speech ,
You'll be forced to think .....
This guy could have used some of his knowledge into persuading Pak., Ban. & Afg. Into not treating the minority the way they do that makes them flee their country. Why everyone is so keen on raising issues over a citizenship aid.
CAA is just a reaction to the injust actions taken acted upon the minorities.
@S K You want to welcome 19% of Pakistan in India you are welcome to do so. Sizeable minorities should exercise talks not run away. In case of hindus and other religions its pretty much ended. They are not welcome there. They try to build a temple,sanctioned by govt, it is pulled apart by fanatics. they try to live in peace, they are raided and woman are kidnapped. I say either we scrap CAA altogether and no one should be allowed to seek asylum from now onwards or it should run as it is. No questions on allowing muslims aswell. If they cant speak up to atrocities then one cant help them.
Please watch J Sai Deepak take on CAA & NRC
He's just being hypocrite and standing out
CAA is extremely mandatory
If it's a reaction to Pakistani oppression of minorities then Ahmaddiya Muslims and Pakistani Atheist should also have been given asylum. Seeing as Atheists have no state nearby that is willing to give them asylum.
@@syedtaha5222 Wow really! So to put it simply Pak will never treat the minorities properly & no one is gonna fight for it but everybody wants India to accept all the mistreated minorities across the borders in the name of Secularism.
& to add on this anybody is just as free to come & seek asylum in India whether Muslims or atheist just as before the bill, this bill only concerns with giving citizenship to the number of people that have arrived here untill the said cutoff date.
If we are talking about equality then if a Hindu person has two wife then he will be punished but if a Muslim person has two wife then he cant be punished, i dont think thats equality also
Don't worry..UCC is coming...
@@lh7720 jihadi mullah spotted
Even they get subsidy for maqqa and Jerusalem
Those are religious laws, if you have a problem then change your religion
I am anti CAA and I am all for universal civil code.
In US, law of Church is different than Law of States.
I totally agree with dark part of Indian constitution.
There is no dark part of India, the population count he gave for west and east Pakistan is absolutely wrong. Article 14 also does not apply everywhere as per supreme court, otherwise there should not be any rights to minority over majority or reservation. He's just molding the facts.. also, why should a country allow a population who carved it into two or I simply say Muslims.
@@lefttoright7831 It just his opinion, Justice is truth but the law is abstract, this guy is also putting his opinions here, Supreme court will give it's judgement no more bullshits!
I feel there's a bit difference between the evacuees and refugees. Refugees were the one's who had to leave West Pakistan and come to India since West Pakistan was an Islamic state but evacuees were the one's who left India deliberately to live in an Islamic state.
It is obvious that they would be considered as different entities regardless of their religions.
Nobody:
Someone speaks good english.
Indians: Such people should be in politics.
Diplomat
That was savage! 😂
Absolutely agree.
welcome to colonised india without being colonised
Always same
Haha! Soo true!
Reminds me of "What's mine is mine. What's yours is ours"
The speech that he said, forced me to start thinking that, what would our future generations, would think of us.
Back then in 1947, each and every article/bill pasesed had a very well structured debate sessions.
What I have noticed, from the video archives of Indian parliament from 1980's to present date, I've not seen a single session, where there were proper debates, all the law passed seem to be the ordinance.
Our MP's have started throwing mics, chairs, insulting each other, watching adult content in legislative assemblies.
Shouting and fights are a much more common scene to witness than debates, criticism and comments on a particular topic.
Now, no more topics of national security are discussed in parliament.
The parliamentary session seem to be party rally speeches.
This man has actually stated valid and right points. Respect.
Every one create question but not solutions.
He is just same stupid guy who has no solutions like dhruv rathee these people are the first to run away from solving things. Without going on ground
Points were valid and right but were vague he didn't disclosed all the information
Abhinav and Sai J Deepak should be on a debate.
I m thinking same
No way....This guy has no status to debate with Sai Deepak...
@@chalmerilexus2072 his performance only tip of ice Berg... however both knows how to make ground and assumptions for the case.
@@chalmerilexus2072 he doesn't seem to me talking like an advocate. Just using cherry picked lines.... Deepak will ruin this kid...
@@nishkarsh25 Sai Deepak usesmade up arguments/ Assumed things. This guy talks logically with facts.
That is why India should have educated politicians with vision.
Why only ppl from Iran, Pak, Bangla are fleeing? This is the problem with academics. Always good with lectures but when it comes to practice they fall flat.
And now Afghanistan.
Actually almost all major countries surrounding India have a persecuted population
Uyghurs and Tibetans in China
Rohingyas of Burma
Tamils of Sri Lanka(not so much now)
And there's Pakistan persecuting Hinds, Sikhs atheists etc.
I agree with humanity angle on with he argued; but country’s law can’t be made to satisfied every one.
Law required more amendment.
I love the fact he mentioned the DACA analogy.
where is that 2nd wave of from Punjabi Pakistan is coming from? 'fact'
Why we should return the houses for muslim who were returning in 1948 can they undo the partition its like after using the product bhaiya acha nhi laga wapas kardo.
They were the real demander of partition due to there demand lots of life were lost can they revive them can he bring those dead back can jawaharlal nehru who provided 2000 permits can revive them.these same thing happened in pakistan they will not return the property of any hindu who want to return
You do realize many Muslims were forced to move and many didn’t support partition? There were millions of Indians who stayed in India during the partition & supported the Union, and in Kerala there’s a secular political party called the Indian Union Muslim League which was a coalition of Malayalee & few Tamilian Muslims supported to stay in India. Which differed to the Muslim League in Pakistan & East Pakistan. And many Muslims in Pakistan supported the Union, but due to the partition they were now residents of a new country called Pakistan.
Oh so because Pakistan did the same thing, you have to act equally as bad as Pakistan even though India has been not fundamentally a theocracy, and India is a Secular Democracy & Capitalist Economy. So because your neighbor did wrong, you have the same right to do the same thing? Is that what you’re trying to say? India is a Secular Democracy & Capitalist Economy, India does not function like that. India can act better than that.
That’s like if China became Communist & abolished their secular monarch Japan had to abolish their religious monarch and become Authoritarian Communist as well? No, if Japan can act better than China, India can act better than their neighbors too.
I bet you’re the ones who think APJ Abdul Kalam is the equivalent to Mohammed Ali Jinnah, just because they’re Muslim.
@@wanno7232 rational people should completely acceptur point ,such a grt points to remain india as india upholding humanity rather than self propoganda,political gains
By the way wer u from WANNO?
He started talking abt NRC instead of CAA in last 3 mins...
Little knowledge is a dangerous thing...
It is a great speech where you have raised the technicalities of the citizenship amendment act by raising the issues of what if you are an orphen,what if it is your parents who had entered India illegally and why not parsis of Iran are not given citizenship etc etc but in doing so you chose to forget why this act has been brought in the first place.
It is not to oppose any religion and any nationality,
And we as Indians should firmly believe that Indian Muslims are as equally as Indian as Indian Hindus and Indian Sikhs.but this act does not deal with any Indians be it Muslims ,Hindus or Sikhs. But it is for those who are persecuted in Pakistan Afghanistan and Bangladesh.
When India was devided on the basis of religion those who believed in secular coexistence of different religions stayed in India and those who believed Muslims can't co exist with Other religions say Hindus,Sikhs,Buddhists, Christians,parsis,Jews etc devided the country and got themselves a Islamic republic of Pakistan, now the problem that arrised here is that Non Muslims in Pakistan and its other part Bangladesh and Afghanistan which from thousands of years have been settlements of Hindu , Buddhist and Sikhs are converted into 'Islam only republics' hence leading to state supported persecution of people of other religions.
Leading to migration of these other religions people into only big secular country in South Asia ie India,
Now by humanitarian consideration of this India has chosen to give citizenship to these people who have been staying in India illegally all these years (not everyone in these countries),so instead of understanding and appreciating this you are saying this law is discriminating against Muslims but in reality this act is helping the people suffering from persecution in Isalmic republics namely Pakistan Afghanistan and Bangladesh that were part of undevided British India. (And now who have come to India for help and STAYING IN INDIA FOR MANY YEARS)
Now when you are saying why not Parsis of Iran are not given citizenship under this act, then you should understand Iran was not devided from India on the basis of religion ,yet when Parsis of Iran fled from their country and came to India they were given citizenship of India,but this ammendment act is not about that. We understand that people from world over are facing some or the other religious persecution in thier countries but that doesn't mean we ie. India should address all that and open citizenship to everyone in the world, mind you we are already country of 1.5billion while we believe that there should be no one in the world who should be discriminated and persecuted in the entire world. As world and humanity is our family,we must also learn how we should run a country and how much we can do to bring a change to make a world a better place and opening free citizenship to everyone is not a way to run a country that already has so many internal problems, we must learn from history and work for better future in making our mother land a better place to be and also hope other countries do that too.let there be peace, AUM.
what you wrote is a fart argument. it stinks
it stinks of xenophobia.
insecure intolerant xenophobic islamophobic jingoistic.
Actually Afghanistan is not a part of India,then why did govt included it and srilankan Tamils have faced greater persecution than religious minorities in Bangladesh, & why did govt did not include them..?
@@athreyadeva8234 Actually AFG was a part of India ,but it was about 200-300 years ago ,but lets be skeptical about it and think about right now ,Our neighbouring country is pak ,afg ,ban ,china, sri lanka(including only some large ones) now if u see out of these countries 3 are Islmaic republic and other two are secular all these countries are neighbouring countries and if we see the numbers of minority population then u will see that it has only decreased in Islamic countries after partition, whereas it is opposite in India ,these tells about how minorities are being converted or being killed, thus the CAA comes and gives Citizenship to the minorities of these countries, now if u see Sri lanka it is a secular country , a point i will like to make that the citizens of any country can get citizenship in India by usual method ,it is just that it prioritize minorities in countries which are not secular
This man knows how to debate, respect!
An amazing articulated case put forward by an Indian who believes in honesty and fairness to all humanity.Keep up your fight for humanity Bless you
If we are talking about honesty then let me be honest...He is still a KAAFIR.
We need more of EDUCATED people like him .
So true. People who never read CAA but talked our brain out over it. This dumbo never mentioned "prosecuted minorities" to begin with. Talking of irrelevant items. Garbage stuff.......
@@freeforlife ok
@@freeforlife oi.. BJP cell... anyone can come to india and seek asylum..
@@itsbella772 Why only India our country a refugee centre to take care of refugee of the whole world?
Why not developed economies like USA, CHINA come forward and talk about such issues and take refugees?
@@binayakbanerjee4238 😂😂😂... US and West countries do take refugees... in millions... do some research before you comment...
The way he blinks his eye😂
This makes me feel that all citizenship laws are useless and arbitrary.
Then, try to get a citizenship from Saudi Arabia or Qatar while being a Hindu or Christian!
This makes me feel that you seem to want to get Citizenship of USA without waiting for 11 years for applying Green Card. Let's take the fight to USA, shall we?
I was born in an Islamic country. Wasn't given a citizenship.
@@artman7780 Lmao It's the same for me too
@@SameerKhan-nd5qb Islam is the state religion of Saudi Arabia.[1] No law requires residents to be Muslim,[2] however, public worship by adherents of religions other than Islam is forbidden.[3][4] Any non-Muslim attempting to acquire Saudi Arabian nationality must convert to Islam.
Source - Wikipedia
A young Indian with a great heart, values and justice. God bless him.
In short, why not open India for everyone to be a true secular state!
@Rajesh MATLAB khud Ko secular sabit Karne ke liye pure Desh ko Dharamshala Bana do
Aisa karte he Syrians, Africans , uighers, Rohingya sab Ko late Hain aur phir sab milke Secularism Politics khelte hain
@@Smiling-Monk You didn't get my sarcasm do you ?
Secular state does not mean India ia not a sovereign state.....ur mentality is like that of progressive left in US..not to build a wall.....from ur logic...why dont u open ur door for everyone living in n on the streets.....
@AGASTHYA U too didn't get my sarcasm do u? Please read my comment again! 😄
Great argument.. but
One more argument can be .. they haven't defined "persecution" in this act at all. What do they mean by persecution? On what basis they're going to prove if one is persecuted or not??
Really feels bad to see these dim Witt politicians in our parliament.
Really bad to see the people don't expect to read. It's refugees provided by the intelligence bureau. Not by politicians.
@@vinu85 thank you.. for being the enlightened one.. but the purpose of defining persecution with religion can't be a sane intelligent thing by our bureau.. these politicians can't wait to show off their efforts to divide our beautiful nation brother..
@@Bounteysingh the bureau did not declare the said people as refugees. Like any refugee, every immigrant who has left all their property, land, and extended family, registers themselves and their spouse and children within the country as a refugee through the legal route hoping that once they have registered the Citizenship Naturalization rules kick in which stipulates that they have to stay for 11 years in India before they get citizenship. In addition to this there are Pakistanis who have married Indians and waiting for citizenship in India. However, the refugee status is not accorded to them as they stay in India legally through VISA stamping. How do you think Adnan Sami a Pakistani Muslim get Indian citizenship by the same BJP Govt you accuse of, 6 years ago.
The registered refugees find hard to get jobs, do not have any subsidies, and neither are they allowed to move out of the state where the refugee camps have been setup for them by Indian Govts (spread through out India) . Few years back the Kerala Police caught 2 regd refugees who came to Kerala and banished them from the state back to their state of Delhi where they cannot come out from untill they are either naturalized citizens of India (they have to apply for it) or go back to their home country themselves.
The intelligence bureaus job is to know. Hence they informed when asked by the Parliamentary committee that encompasses several party members. If your not aware there isn't anything called economic refugees in South Asia atleast. Economic refugees don't exist unless their home country was in deep state of violence. All refugees are either religious or based on civil unrest in their home countries. There is no unlivable civil unrest in our neighborhood and hence all the people who entered India mentioned by bureau have come in the name of religious persecution.
@@vinu85 How can you not see the discrimination here ?..a person belonging to certain religion has to wait "not less than 5years" and another person from same background equally persecuted, facing same atrocities need 11 years. I understand your argument but you cannot ignore this..
These details are not mentioned in the act.. Now suppose if I am a Muslim illegal migrant.. should I convert to any of these above mentioned religion to gain the same privilege that my counterpart is getting?
don't you see what's wrong in this?
This act clearly declares that India is not for Muslims.
Try to understand the meta concept..
This act will create a small crack in our constitution.. as you must be knowing that if supreme Court defend this.. they can create more religion based acts on logics of this act.
@@Bounteysingh You seem to have realized that everyone gets citizenship. And its only a matter of years (from 11 to 5) . They would have accorded 5 years to the Muslims if there were any registered refugees as Muslims. But there are none. There are no registered Muslim or Jews or Bahari refugees in India. You have conveniently forgotten that Hindus who come AFTER 2014 will have no prievelage and need to complete 11 years and not 5 years. Also, how can an "illegal immigrant" be a refugee. Dont think you seem to understand the difference between a refugee and an "illegal immigrant". There are registered refugees who are Tamils but Hindus who DO NOT get 5 years. Why not them? If the HINDU Govt wanted to give all Hindus, why didnt they give HINDU Tamil refugees registered? You seem to say illegal immigrant a lot. Although you mean only illegal Musilms but not illegal Jews or illegal Baharis or illegal Tamils. So as per you Jews, Baharis and everyone else has to convert to Hinduism? non sense. where in the act does it say that you need to convert. Do check the meaning of illegal and do read the Act. Everything is clearly mentioned in Act. There are no confusions.
I don't oppose CAA but this was a good speech
CJI's son is forgetting that the very concept of PARTITION was based on RELIGIOUS parameters & those who 'returned' CANNOT and SHOULD NOT be equated with 'refugees' who were victims of that PARTITION.
There is no role of Rss in Indian independence!!!
Most of his arguments are sensible but cant say about the Muslim influx in India. They have their own countries in Afg Pak Ban. Hindus and Sikhs have only India
Excellent points made.
Why was actually pakistan created...on who's force....
Everytime why Hindus should be secular and magnanimous...
For that sir you might need to read our Vedas and also gain knowledge on the origins of what you no think is "Hindu".
@@samriddhburman3867 u read Vedas..... A person repeats mistake and never learns from history is nothing but a burden to society.... Wake up
Muslim League and Hindu Mahasabha were two major political parties at that time who favored 2 nation theory. even now leaders like Aditya Bisht say that Hindus and Muslims are separate nations and cant live together.
@@abhijeetwa Yes these were the major parties and indian national congress was maybe some bunch of people who were fighting against dugna lagaan. Besides these two mentioned parties were so major that they had to come together to join the hands to make a coalition government in two British states sindh and NWFP who themselves believe that their existence couldn't be together felt in love and ruled together.
@@amitpradhan5530 Yeah exactly first the British divided us and ruled and now the government is doing the same, I seriously think we should learn from the history.
It gave me immense pleasure to see how detailed a person can be. But at the same time it saddens me that I never put an effort to be at least a percent of what he is!
Me too mate
It's never too late
Lol no facts just lies
Thanks for sharing this, Brut. Kudos to this lawyer. Now more than ever, we need such unbiased videos, which are otherwise heavily censored or ignored by the giant, bought-out, biased media.
I have had enough of bull.
Does more intellect mean less common sense and less administration?
Other parts of original india made themselves islamic that should be clear driving force behind giving special welcoming right to the other religions.
I am 24 year old but the guy spitting gutkha like a boy to get media attention. He did not went to pak, Bangladesh Or afghanistan but still act like one of my friend is jew. So what rules are rules.
@@abhishek2026 he is a lawyer boi what do you do?
I appreciate your fact checks but I condemn your 2 opinions on constitution, an effective speaker doesn't have to impose opinions in the speach so biased. Well worth info, good luck next time
Who is this very smart young man? Sorry for my ignorance. His words are cogent and rationale is irrefutable. Kudos.
Eyes are not blinking at normal
And here I thought liberals have finally come up with something solid against the CAA because of all those figures that were thrown about.
Maybe while doing all the research, the speaker must have used some braincells and saw how Indian Constitution is based on faith and the word secularism was nowhere used unless Madam Indra Gandhi coined it for whatever reasons. India have been secular because it's the culture, more specifically it's the culture of the Hindus. The constitution without mentioning the word secular has rendered itself to be secular because of certain bright minds like Dr.Ambetkar and others.
Article 14. Equality before law, more specifically equality before equals not unequals. The court has interpreted it multiple times.
So instead of coming up with something solid, he went on to say why partition was problematic. No shit Sherlock, we figured it's gonna be problematic even before it was done. So cry me a river later. The problem here is there's an act which is actually "too late" that settles some of the problem for some of the select number of people. That's all it's about. Try harder next time and please try to season it with some grey matter, because this is getting boring.
Finally somebody with brains over here, I m actually quite astonished to the fact that so many morons over here thinking that whatever this guy is saying is the most logical truth.
Did you just say that the constitution does not mention the word "secular"?
@@ananyanarayan8585 It never did until it was added by the then PM Indira Gandhi, changing Sovereign democratic republic to Sovereign socialist secular democratic republic. Maybe that's why it was mocked or adored as "Constitution of Indira" at that time. The framers of the constitution were not foolish, they deliberately didn't use the word secular anywhere in the constitution because that's how the country has been all the centuries. But now it's part of the constitution. One S creating one kind of problem the other S creating another kind of problem. But both together proved Nothing more than the harrasment for the country.
@@ananyanarayan8585 While talkin'about it I would like to add it's funny how India works as far as acts and laws go. So we add the word secular at one place, now we will all celebrate we are secular. We want to abolish dowry, we will pass one law and we will declare and celebrate dowry is abolished over night and celebrate it. It's ridiculous. India has a proven track record as far as secularism goes, India is secular whether we say it or not. And by secular it doesn't mean that India is not spiritual. This was captured well by the constitution and this add-on has a political basis, "protector of muslims", vote bank politics that's continued for generations, emergency act so that there's no need to face defeat in elections, YAY! democracy at its best.
@@ananyanarayan8585 The term secular was not included in the Indian Constitution when it was made. It was added by Indira Gandhi when she amended (42 amendment) the Indian Constitution in 1976. Hence it's also called "Constitution of Indira" sometimes
Every time this guy blinks a new person contracts the coronavirus.
For those who don't know him , apart from his individual identity he is the grandson of YV Chandrachud the 16th CJI and the son of DY Chandrachud who will be the CJI in November '22 .
The cases like born in India, Transgender which abandoned from their birth , cannot consider hypothetically.You have to go to court with the problem In CAA, and court will decide amendment to do bill.You will not directly deployed by the government,the law will require some changes in future as of the other laws get changed in past time.
What an eye-opener! If only such content was available on primetime news networks instead of all the chest-thumping, over-the-top, jingoistic content that is being propagated at the moment, we would have been in a much better state right now. Let's get our facts right before commenting on anything. It is very important to do a bit of research on our own than to merely digest what is being fed to us through various media outlets. Appreciate the effort that he has put in to make it easy for us to understand the nuances of our constitution and how it has affected people of various religious communities over the years. Hope to hear more from you, sir. Would love to see India's most watched reporter debate him on the 'Republic' of India's highest rated news network. That would make for some good television.
@@srishti8099 Wrong. A has to take the 40 people's (that voted against him) interest into account when deliberating on policy decisions.
Best video seen in long time . Especially in the midst of the chaos which is going on
This guy looks more like that Dreamer
May you live in interesting times
Very compelling arguments.
Not a historical but a one sided perspective. He is concerned about orphans and transgender identity cards however the law clearly states that if you don't have birth certificate, produce a 10th class certificate, if you don't have that, produce a ration card, if you don't have that produce an election id, if you don't have that, produce three people who know you. This is the extent to which the law accommodates its citizens. Another fact that you said is that being theocratic is absolutely fine as your dear England is theocratic, in which case why are you so concerned about the secular nature of the constitution?
Wow, did Gov told u a birth certificate, 10th class, ration card makes u citizen...the problem in this country ia assumptions... 🤣Even after so many days
@@flashbotai262 Having them do not make you a citizen. But they are a first approximations to whether you are a citizen of this country or not. A citizen is more likely to have a birth certificate/10th mark sheet or ration card than a non-citizen. In accounting for 1.3 billion people, such assumptions have to be made. In the coming years, having digital records of its citizen is very important for governments as all transfers/taxations will be done online. I do not understand why passing days which change that fact.
@@priyamverma5843 seriously u use approximation to being citizen 🙈...yes give digital sign for each citizen, give a number to each one and in the same way do change in Governance to policing them...if Gov wants policing Citizens then Gov also should be policing by citizens and if u missed to understand this then it will become a Authoritarian gov like Russia and China...read again
@@flashbotai262 In measuring any variable, approximations are made. Be it the size of GDP, area of a country's land or a person's IQ.
When it comes to governments becoming autocratic because they have digital records, world's leading democracies keep digital records for its citizens. US has social security numbers, Germany has social insurance number and so on.
@@priyamverma5843 nice explanation sis
The CAA is not a law against Muslims or Hindus or any religious group.
The CAA is a law against the poor because the rich (no matter his religion or occupation) can get his citizenship cleared by bribing the local officers.
The poor, on the other hand, are helpless and are unnecessarily thrown to the whims of the local babu.
The law should have been scrapped by anyone with half an iota of conscience and an understanding of India's harsh realities.
They can go back to Pakistan or Bangladesh. Do you think India is a charity organization? Even the super wealthy and “secular” Europe is deporting thousands of refugees.
@@artman7780 So, what you are saying is that the poor can go to Pakistan or Bangladesh. But because you are rich enough to bribe Modi's local Babu, you can stay in India. Ok. Got it.
@ANIL Both the poor and rich should go back to Pakistan and Bangladesh. As for bribing, it’s clear the rich are bribing Rahul Gandhi and all the anti-CAA protestors to do their bidding.
Totally agree Anil bhai. Government want only rich to stay and throw out poor in sea.... clearly after implementation of these act all religion people will riot and it will be even more serious problem.
@rasool khaja Government wants to throw out both. The only difference is that the rich are funding the anti-CAA protestors. How else can they afford to eat Biriyanis 3 times a day at the protest sites?
Really a great speech .you have already cleared about CAA .
Thank God I came across this. I am throwing this in the face of anyone who says that my argument that CAA-NRC-NPR is a bigots mandate to destroy the pluralistic fabric of India is me hallucinating.
Seems you haven't read the CAA clearly. Your opinions don't make up facts. He has intentionally left out much else.
CAA and NRC are not just introduced for the purpose of providing citizenship rather is one of the ways to deal with the ongoing crisis of Refugees and Illegal immigrants all around the world.
While refuting his statements please consider the following points:
a. India didn't follow the concept of secularism until 1976 where the word secular was added under the 42nd Amendment Act of 1976 which was passed under PM Indira Gandhi's infamous period of governance also known as Emergency. Pre 1976 there was no concept of secularism in the Indian Constitution. hence this is one of the reasons why hindus& Sikhs were mentioned as refugees and Muslims as Evacuee.
b.NO, Article 14 is not being violated. Right to equality is a restriction on the powers of the state. It defines the boundaries within which state action has to be confined. However, the restriction under Article 14 has an exception: unequal treatment to unequal persons. The Constitution, acknowledging that inequalities exist in society and providing equal treatment to unequal persons lead to injustice, permits a state action which is discriminatory provided that such differentiation is based on an ‘intelligible differentia’ and such differentiation has a reasonable nexus with the objective sought to be achieved by the state action.
c. For jews and Bahais or any other person, the provision to obtain citizenship is still applicable under Naturalisation. In India Atheist is a belief not religion. This principle of atheism is accepted by religions such as Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism. In other words, a person can be Hindu as well as an atheist.
d. The reason for leaving out other neighboring countries was the fact that they never a part of Pre Independence India.
Fantastic counter arguments 👏👏👏👏👏
Extremely truth but starting of their speech going to knock the door of history.
I was born in an Islamic country. I studied and was brought up there. I hold an Islamic birth certificate even today. I didn't get citizenship in that country. I am living in India for past 15 years. Take that as Truth. Swallow that for a change.
@@vinu85 he won't get it. For ignorant Noobs it's anti muslim. 😆
@@acharya8959 Yeah Neither is this Najeeb in jail as per his version of CAA or has lost citizenship. He is just a liar like everyone else.
Opera! Enjoyed it!
Mostly wrong facts, Article 14 does apply only on Indian Citizens coz our constitution starts with "we the people of India".
Wow. Nice.
Respect for this man is above the clouds for me. Its rare to see a true indian, a true human
Equality.....meme?
Highly knowledgeable. And a slipper slap to who supported CAA and wanted INDIANs to fight on hindu and muslims religion.
Applause 👏
Best video on cab..
I would love to hear him and J sai deepak debate on this issue.
This guy is gem...
such beauty.even if i am a pro CAA but some points really hit me.
CAA is wrong
@@ruhmm Nope
@@ruhmm yes if you are an illegal immigrants
@@hijack69 how do you know?
Do your own research this guy mixed up NRC and CAA.. he is just speaking fluent English making people stupid.
One of the finest speeches I have ever watched...
Because of??
Bruh he was literally like "now all the bjp people are here"😂
Excellent. Well done young man. Done your profession proud surely cj I would be listen ing
Lit man! 🔥💯
You nailed it bro
Since the day CAA Was introduced, categorisation seemed painstakingly random, so random that it was hard to decipher the intention behind it. This led to the fight against it get focused on NRC instead of CAA solely. Thanks to this gentleman and researcher, he has separated wheat and chaff. Yes, the CAA categorization is random and the act was completely unnecessary and not well-thought. What really surprises me is the IAS officers lobby that must have helped to bring forth the act didn't even see through the loopholes. Our Politicians are no geniuses and that is a fact, but even the administrative officers didn't see to it that the act was atleast logically consistent is very hilarious, and sad.
Which is why it was not the IAS officers but the Intelligence Bureau who gave the religions to include into the CAA. Which you seem to have conveniently ignored.
It's funny how narrow minded one has to be to view this issue this stupidity. Because you can be atheist, agnostic or you formed a new religion and are worshipping an alien spacecraft for all matter of purposes. The assumption here is that you didn't land in Pakistan from alien spacecraft, it's that you probably had parents. They possibly had a religion and it's gonna be either one of the two or three. And the segregation is more based on what's your lineage when the partition happened rather than what you believe in. So this arbitrary so called loopholes are kindergarden logic rather than something that applies legals. It's sad this is what it has come down to.
And regarding the left out countries, these are the places which are subsets in the existing list of registered migrants who have come for religious persecution.
If you say oh the Jews were left out, either you are joking or you don't understand Pakistan.
The apprehension is about millions will be left out of NRC and Hindus who could not through the list can apply for the Citizenship while Muslims will be called branded as Illegal Bangladeshi Immigrants. Just refer to the BJP leadership who called for the disenchantment who can't make through the list.
IAS lobby may have the intelligence but they are the pawns in the hands of their political executives.
One more thing may be you are the enlightened one in your community(Caste Hindu) but rest I found talk senseless even though it's a proven fact that Pandits are the most intelligent in Indian society.
No offence, Happy Holi.
@@SilentSpectator-hb2ul must be seriously out of your wits to think that it was IAS who lobbied it. This lady seems to not know that it was the Intelligence Bureau who gave the numbers. If anything what here claimed to be true then it is clearly applicable of disenfranchisement of millions of Jews and Atheists and Bharis faiths that the CAA doesn't mention. Because unlike what you guys want to believe for yourself repeatedly, it did make no sense for India to give Christians from neighborhood citizenship but not Jews Baharis atheists. You need to drop your bias ruled fantasy son.
Arunika has never read the CAA. Just reports to make believe that her Muslim colleagues in her office or neighborhood are in some camps being tortured to death for being Muslim. Biases and lies.
Wow.Deep
Laws have loop holes in every country.Its good that u pointed out.This video must be seen by our law makers
They wouldn't understand it because they don't want to.
After all we are the "homosapiens " who created this chaos and maken them worse . Looking from other side we are fighting for something that doesn't even literally exist . I really appreciate how this man speaked out the fact in a very convincing way.
Umm ... Not very clear whether you are for or against his views .... when I was just feeling happy you understood homosapiens ...
This guy proves that just because a guy is dressed like a nerd, that does not mean he is smart
You can argue he's wrong from your subjective perspective but he's obviously p smart
Brilliant 👏🏻
Well spoken bro
Arguments given by the gentle man seems to be very subjective and circumstantial in the true sense. Problem with india is if you speak impeccable english it is often mistaken for fact. Article 14 is never read in isolation as per the convention established in various cases by the Supreme court. Article 14 if coupled with preamble it creates a very powerful argument in favour of CAA for there is no black and white segregation between the parts of fundamental rights applicable to citizens and aliena
True better watch haris salve not this ghonchu
Very true...people now seems to trust others over there impeccable English...🤣🤣🤣 . This Bullshit seems to manipulate audience by his tricky words...who cares he's simply manipulating those who havent even read a single line from the article.I can confront all his baseless points other than... point on including other religions as like jews and atheists.
Nothing will go into bhakts mind ,no matter what facts we put in that it will essentially affect the fabric of our nation that is secularism.......
Lel first get rid of the shitty secualrism we have
I think you should watch the video
" Harish Salve on CAA " and then decide who is Bhakt .
What i gather from his speech is that we need CAA, we only need to make certain changes in the act
@@burgermanreutrns8812 when you say secularism is shitty itself in what context ????you wanna be superior inferior kinda of life is it .or what's ur understanding if secularism
@@karan_2120 i just told bhakts why shud I decide who.is bhakt everyone knows that already
OMG....just nailed it
Bhakts cannot register Such amazing logical and rational arguments. most of us don't know the context, news channels only cherry-pick a few things and show them in the loop to us. Dharm k naam pe andha kr rkha hai logo ko. Pakistan ko gaaliyan dete hai or Pakistan k raaste pe hi ja rhe hai. secularism is our strength and the reason why we made such amazing progress compared to Pakistan. humko ye ghutti pila di gayi hai ki saari problems hi secularism k kaaran hai. bhai Pakistan dharm k aadhaar pe bna hai or aaj bhi vha sb kuch religion k hisaab sai hota hai or uski haalat dekh lo. humko bhi vhi keeda lga hai abhi or hum bhi usi raaste pe nikal liye hai.
Mind=Blown
I don't why Pakistan was created then . We are living with Muslims now and we would have been lived with them at that time also
Voting happened.. People choose it...unfortunately. People are responsible.
Intriguing facts about of the Indian Constitution ans the functioning mechanism of the CAA. I would t love to learn more from this gentleman.
Dear, India is NOT FOR MUSLIM MINORITY.
prabhakar shukla , people like you are poison. Wait for 40-50 years, and you are rid off this earth. Then what importance will you get? You want to fill your life with hate for a community? What is your ultimate gain?
This video should be viral
the answer is naman shrivastav's video on this topic where he mentioned that caa is not implemented on the basis of who is muslim or athiest , it is based on which minor communities had faced persecution in our neighbouring countries can become citizens over here and if you think muslims have faced persecution in pakistan or bangladesh then take a salute man... , and he also mentions that any muslim like adnan sami can take citizenship here via natural process.
was a pro caa before watching this video but this has given me a lot to think about...
We need people like you who are willing to understand both sides of the coin
Read my comment....
Watch video of J Sai Deepak...
No my belief is strengthened in caa now
@@allahlesboslu2_9 Exactly Bro
This completely changed my mind . Thanks
oh you have mind?
# Respect
This fellow is literally making his father's job easier!!!
And that my friends is Advocate Abhinav Chandrachudh for you.
A biased one. Cherry picking facts.
@@vinu85 well if you have anything better to offer I'm all ears. I just need the correct facts.
@@adityagupta4955 You may check my comments that I have already provided. Under the same video thread.
@Aditya gupta “And, that my friends is “ascetic scholar” of ISIS, Al Baghdadi! “
It elicites the same response.
Tatti
With all due respect, I do not agree with him at all regarding his view of the recent CAA as it deals mainly with easing the process of acquiring of citizenship by persecuted minorities (not just minorities but persecuted ones)...it in no sense has to got to do anything with the already existing citizens of India, doesn't matter to which religion they belong to. I wonder how it's discriminatory if it doesn't have to do anything with our already existing citizens.
Exactly
Second Wave ?? Please provide proper documentation.....with reference!!
What a explanation.......may be he is best
Precisely explained
The flood of knowledge.
How? He never talked of "prosecuted minorities".
@@freeforlife People only scratch the surface and tend to believe what they are shown.One can judge something is being represented straight forward or it is deviated from the fact only if the person has the complete knowledge or self-awareness.People of our country are not aware or donot make themselves aware and hence are easily deceptive to which is propaganda and which is not.
Binayak Banerjee, just like you.
@@freeforlife ok I am anti- CAA but I am willing to listen to your argument but please be unbiased..
@@rehan5766 watch harish salve
So Brut where is the other side of this argument ?
This man should be a minister