As a doo guy I've gotta say I'm pretty jealous of the gps and rider tracking. That's my favourite feature of the Polaris for this year! Also as a guy without a heated garage, I love your shop setup!
Check out the Trail Tech Voyager Pro. You can add it to any sled (or anything you want) and it will sync Buddy Tracking with the Polaris 7s' as well as any other Voyager Pro's you're riding with.
Same; Polaris really did a lot well on the Matryx. It’s a great looking and well laid out machine with an improvement to fit & finish. I would have liked to see the gage laid down a bit and not up so high, but not sure that’s possible with how tight things are under the plastics.
I think the adjustable foot stirrups are made optional by Polarsis because they are known as "ankle breakers"...not because of big feet not fitting haha. Plenty of people have taken a tumble while there foot was anchored inside. Nice to know they resolved a safety concern
thanks Dan for your very complete comparison of these two machines As an aviator I appreciate all the details you provide. If at 35000 feet or 10000 your training tips and equipment tips have saved me a lot of pain and anguish. Your videos helped me enjoy this sport I abandoned as a teenager. cheers buddy. thanks for the time you put into this sport and paying it forward.
Tape measuring sleds is always fun. It is interesting to measure different brands to each other and see the similarities and complete difference. I wonder what hydro dipping panels instead of wrapping them would save on weight with out sacrificing the custom looks
Ty for the info!!!! Perfect.. I've been telling people around here after hearing ALL the hype about how much better matryx is that it can't be much different and in reality it's the same.. I love my 2020 assault, u can keep ur new plastics.. only thing I see that's awesome is they finally put a tether on.. great video...
The Matryx is pretty cool. I took an Assault for a demo last year. It’s tough to beat that new gauge. However, I was concerned about supply issues so I snow checked a 2022 Axys chassis and had it in early October. I’m happy with my Axys rmk and have been riding two months already while some are still waiting for their snow checks. Maybe in a year or two when supply and demand issues level out. Great video as always. 👍🏻
Awesome content Dan. I would love to see a video on stock khoas suspension set up rather than spending thousands on different shocks. Keep up the good work⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I believe the rear track shock is different, although I could be wrong. Just something worth looking into for someone that is expecting to run their axys shocks! Thanks for the video love the channel!!
#1 reason I wouldn't touch a polaris was because of those stupid toe loops. My feet got stuck in them...felt like it was a good way to destroy a knee.. Glad to see they fixed that AND PUT A TEHTER ON finally.
Dan! The battery you speak of on the Matryx that powers the 7S display is from the factory? I’m assuming this is a none ES machine right? I ordered the SBA none es and was wondering if the sled has to be running to get the 7S to work. Thanks in advance
Hey! I've been looking for the Pro-Taper high handlebar for the matryx slash but everyone's sold out.. Does the Axys handlebar fit the Matryx? My local parts guy said no. Please lmk!
Dan I had trouble with my throttle sticking on my first ride… do you know anyone else who has had this issue? Is there a fix for this? It was Little scary lol
How are you liking the new series 8 track, I just got a 2022 axys khoas 850 155 with the series 8 track and I'm experiencing alot of track skipping everytime I bring the skis off the ground even after tightening to the factory recommendation, from what iver heard I'm not the only one with this problem?
Polaris FANBOY here but really?! "A lot of research went into the tether switch/location" This is a cop-out bunch of sales crap. it is basic safety gear that should be on every backcountry model! It is finally here and it is a nice magnetic one, this is the location is all they should say. As a leader in a struggling/dying sport, these guys should be providing every safety feature for their riders if for no other reason than it is cheap self-preservation.
Goes hand in hand with a helmet unreal they didn’t have one until now. Refuse to ride with anyone that won’t wear their tether, the backcountry is dangerous enough as it is. Atleast do what is in your own power to prevent the worst.
This comment couldn’t be further from the truth. Polaris has sold a tether through their accessories catalog for many years with the simple idea that riders wanting or needing a tether should either have their dealer or themselves install it. How many tether fails do you think manufacturers see in a year??? How many of those claims end in injury or worse? Adding a tether to the new sled is also adding liability to a lot of things. It’s location allows riders to use it on their jacket or either wrist which was thought out. It’s also in a spot that is somewhat protected. You say that you are a Polaris Fan, yet you destroy that in one comment. You also watch my channel yet say I’m a “sales guy” when I’ve been a passionate rider for many years just trying to carve a living out of what I do. For what it’s worth dude, with all the negativity that’s already in our world, why add to it? Just be stoked and share that message!!!
@@NextLevelRidingClinics I think the idea is, why has Polaris insisted we pay another $50 on a $15000+ sled for something so simple? They act like it's a new thing, when everyone I know has been adding them for years.
I miss the t-slots in the tunnel for attaching stuff. Do you have to drill holes now to attach storage bags/accessories to the tunnel on the Matryx? I was always happy with the Axys headlights and ive heard of guys complaining that the Matryx headlights not putting off as good of light coverage as the Axys headlights. Still 7 lbs difference and you didnt mention the fact that the Matryx has shorter tunnel heat exchangers, shorter and narrower tunnel. Those cut back on weight, yet the Matryx is still 7 lbs heavier. I do really like that the 7s comes stock with a battery just for the display even when you do not have E-start. That was a pain on my PIDD when I would turn off and start back up my sled without E-start.
@@timbutler3213 Be like what? You could have had his answer by the time you finished typing your question on a random TH-cam video if you would have used your head.
@@Icutmetal Maybe I wanted to ask instead. Why do you care? Do you always get so easily put off? Maybe by you replying how you did speaks more about yourself than me.
tracking does not work without a gsm phone. do you have gsm everywhere in the ski areas? non-turbo matrix differs little from axys, only by the cooling system, tunnel and plastic. new driving failed. the turbo matrix has a different variator and a really powerful engine. but in Russia, Polaris dealers are very bad, if the engine breaks down, then the season is lost.
wowo! new brake lever? wow! ive been saying that the brake lever is holding me back from going pro for years now. its crazy that it took over 50 years to come out with this "new" brake lever. game changing
Doo; 1st factory turbo, revolutionary mono-rail. Polaris: new hood, new gauge... I love my Polaris, but Polaris Corp needs to step up their game. Where is the innovation? Hard to get excited about cosmetic changes.
Arctic Cat needs to step up their game. (I have a 19’ alpha as one of my sleds). Skidoo comes out with a turbo. Then Polaris comes out with a turbo. And arctic cat shows up and says “we have a change to our primary clutch”. The supercharger on the cat is a gimme. Put it on factory and let it go to market for crying out loud.
Everything stil the same in other words? At least all that would matter. Some new stickers and likely a new and improved price tage......yeah? Nothing to see here, moving on.
“The tunnel is garbage.. there no reinforcing there… everybody I’ve ever known or heard of or rode with that has one of those has a bent tunnel”. 😂😂 Where are you people who used to say that back when the alpha chassis came out? 🤣😂🤣. I bet we don’t hear that one anymore.
Unbelievable how much negativity here. If Polaris wanted to build something indestructible it would not only be more expensive, but also heavier….& then the comments would be about weight and not durability. I get it that there are die-hard riders out there that demand the best, but saying that anyone’s ideas or products is “garbage” is easily not part of the solution. We are all in this together aren’t we?
I’m simply saying that after the Alpha Chassis came out that’s the only thing every person that ever owned a Polaris could say is that the tunnel is weak and they fold in two because there’s nothing on the bottom side of the tunnel to prevent it. And now I think it’s rather entertaining that that narrative will instantly be no more. It’s all in good fun. (Btw, I own an axys, an 800 skidoo, and an alpha)
@@Rudevette I’ve been on a Polaris for 20 years and riding for Polaris for the last 14 and have not heard one comment about an Arctic tunnel so to say that every Polaris rider says or thinks that is straight wrong. These manufacturers (all of them) work their asses off to make products that work, none of it is garbage. It’s just different ideas and hey some work and some don’t. Ride safe
Omg the 09 dragon.. we use to say poo called it the dragon because we were always dragon are buddies dragon out of the woods 🤣 he went through 4 motors on that sled.. when he got around 800 miles on a new rebuild that pos would come apart again just like clock work
@@jimbeam9176 a month ago my gasoline pump broke down in the mountains. and a week ago the steering column burst. now a meter and a half of snow has fallen outside the window - I cannot ride it
Man guy I have a really hard time seeing this comment. Polaris, not unlike every manufacturer, spends more money and time developing these machines…. for someone to call things junk is just unreal. It’s a bummer you have so much negative energy. The A-arms are meant to fail so the bigger more expensive parts stay true. It’s not that they are weak, it’s they are built a specific way to protect the rest of the machine when we hit stuff….and we all hit stuff. Hope you have a safe winter!!
Polaris has the best A-arms to offer, even considering aftermarket brands. If you actually hit a huge rock and bend the bottom one then all you have to do is replace it and your good to go. The other branded sleds or “stronger” A-arms will be left with bent bulkhead mounts or bent bulkheads. $150 a-arm that you can get anywhere is betger than a totaled snowmobile that drives crooked for ever. You’re missing the point man.
@@NextLevelRidingClinics I definitely agree that replacing easy parts like a-arms is better than replacing bulkheads. Got all the grip'n'rip braces on my 2020 skidoo just for that very reason. And yes...calling any of our modern machines junk is just unreal!! One brand may have a slightly better idea but they are all amazing works of engineering.
Choose a better attitude, man…sheesh. You know what stronger a-arms get ya? Bent bulkheads, that’s what. I love my SkiDoo and all, but would happy to be able to change out a-arms as easily as on a Polaris.
As a doo guy I've gotta say I'm pretty jealous of the gps and rider tracking. That's my favourite feature of the Polaris for this year! Also as a guy without a heated garage, I love your shop setup!
Check out the Trail Tech Voyager Pro. You can add it to any sled (or anything you want) and it will sync Buddy Tracking with the Polaris 7s' as well as any other Voyager Pro's you're riding with.
Your jealous over Poo gps? And all the Poo guys are jealous you doo guys have a reliably motor
Same; Polaris really did a lot well on the Matryx. It’s a great looking and well laid out machine with an improvement to fit & finish. I would have liked to see the gage laid down a bit and not up so high, but not sure that’s possible with how tight things are under the plastics.
love your videos man
@@jimbeam9176 reliably motor, sorry to hear that you are still riding a 2013. we are now in 2021 reliable motor is coming from both manufacturer.
Thanks Dan, good stuff again. IMO, the Axys is better looking up front.
Glad its so close to the axys. I feel better for keeping my axys 1or2 more seasons.
Rode my slash 155 yesterday for the first time, you guys weren’t shitting that it comes over quick and easy! LOVE IT!!
I think the adjustable foot stirrups are made optional by Polarsis because they are known as "ankle breakers"...not because of big feet not fitting haha. Plenty of people have taken a tumble while there foot was anchored inside. Nice to know they resolved a safety concern
thanks Dan for your very complete comparison of these two machines As an aviator I appreciate all the details you provide. If at 35000 feet or 10000 your training tips and equipment tips have saved me a lot of pain and anguish. Your videos helped me enjoy this sport I abandoned as a teenager. cheers buddy. thanks for the time you put into this sport and paying it forward.
Hey, where are you riding at 35,000 ft.? I want to go.
Ahh. Sorry. Correction 3500 feet to 8600 ish
Tape measuring sleds is always fun. It is interesting to measure different brands to each other and see the similarities and complete difference.
I wonder what hydro dipping panels instead of wrapping them would save on weight with out sacrificing the custom looks
Lot of people like wraps just for protecting their plastics from scratches
@@577stensgard For sure. But if your spending $1000 to lose half a pound on the super lite builds replacing plastics might be the way to go.
@@kadecooper246 I guess if you think about it that way it probably is
Wrap is around 4 lbs. Burdant has mentioned it a few times on his ultra-light builds. Sacrifice the weight for the sponsors.
Ty for the info!!!! Perfect.. I've been telling people around here after hearing ALL the hype about how much better matryx is that it can't be much different and in reality it's the same.. I love my 2020 assault, u can keep ur new plastics.. only thing I see that's awesome is they finally put a tether on.. great video...
Really kool thx for your hard work. When is next snow check with Polaris?
The Matryx is pretty cool. I took an Assault for a demo last year. It’s tough to beat that new gauge. However, I was concerned about supply issues so I snow checked a 2022 Axys chassis and had it in early October. I’m happy with my Axys rmk and have been riding two months already while some are still waiting for their snow checks.
Maybe in a year or two when supply and demand issues level out. Great video as always. 👍🏻
Great work dude. Do one on the tunnels bags and shit like that.
I have a 155 KHAOS 9R Slash.. A 146 just might be in my future. Sounds fun
Awesome content Dan.
I would love to see a video on stock khoas suspension set up rather than spending thousands on different shocks. Keep up the good work⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Great video by turcott on exactly that.
Great video! Love the details! Always look forward to watching. Really appreciate all that you are willing to share!!!
Still like the body lines of the axys better, but that tunnel is awesome. Looks like a cross between a Doo, and a cat.
I believe the rear track shock is different, although I could be wrong. Just something worth looking into for someone that is expecting to run their axys shocks! Thanks for the video love the channel!!
really interesting comparison... and i sure enjoyed it! thank-you
#1 reason I wouldn't touch a polaris was because of those stupid toe loops. My feet got stuck in them...felt like it was a good way to destroy a knee.. Glad to see they fixed that AND PUT A TEHTER ON finally.
Great video and the best chassi on the market gets even better 💪
Good job Dan. Like a lot of us, I sure wishing I had my Slash 165 to compare to ! .... no matter what the weight is 😉
Dan! The battery you speak of on the Matryx that powers the 7S display is from the factory? I’m assuming this is a none ES machine right? I ordered the SBA none es and was wondering if the sled has to be running to get the 7S to work. Thanks in advance
Thank you for your videos Dan, I always learn so much
Great video as always Dan! Love the honest comparison.
Awesome detail, great content as always. Well done
What is the name of that wrap on the Matryx? Looks great!
I’m wondering the same!
4lbs of wrap!!!!!!! I’m gonna have to eat lettuce wraps for 4 months to loose that extra weight, added steezyness doooo
Just got a Matryx , getting used to it, very different from what I'm use to riding,
Awesome breakdown Dan!
Great work. Thanks.
Great Video Dan love the looks of the New Matryx's! Yours looks Awesome!!
Copied the doo’s in a shorter tunnel in a lot of other aspects, but u can’t argue with performance.
Dude…all the manufacturers copy each other; c’mon now.
Die hard doo guy here, doo will have a more tapered tunnel in their new chassis this/next spring
Kind of, cats had a short tunnel before Doo, and never made a big deal of it, it's just standard
@@MrKclemons Sure 👌
How did you attach the cooker to the SLP comp can?
Hey! I've been looking for the Pro-Taper high handlebar for the matryx slash but everyone's sold out.. Does the Axys handlebar fit the Matryx? My local parts guy said no. Please lmk!
It will fit, the mounts are all 7/8
@@trickynic3866 thank you!!!🙏
I’ve heard the axys is crazy tippy
This guy really knows what he's talking about
It's like a thinner rev (in the front)
Dan I had trouble with my throttle sticking on my first ride… do you know anyone else who has had this issue? Is there a fix for this? It was Little scary lol
How are you liking the new series 8 track, I just got a 2022 axys khoas 850 155 with the series 8 track and I'm experiencing alot of track skipping everytime I bring the skis off the ground even after tightening to the factory recommendation, from what iver heard I'm not the only one with this problem?
Extrovert driver's and running a little looser will save you from a broken track
What wrap is on the sled on the right?
Polaris FANBOY here but really?! "A lot of research went into the tether switch/location" This is a cop-out bunch of sales crap. it is basic safety gear that should be on every backcountry model! It is finally here and it is a nice magnetic one, this is the location is all they should say. As a leader in a struggling/dying sport, these guys should be providing every safety feature for their riders if for no other reason than it is cheap self-preservation.
It should be standard on every model, no matter what type of sled.
Goes hand in hand with a helmet unreal they didn’t have one until now. Refuse to ride with anyone that won’t wear their tether, the backcountry is dangerous enough as it is. Atleast do what is in your own power to prevent the worst.
Magnetic tethers are great. (That’s why Arctic has been using them for awhile.. but it’s new and ground breaking for Polaris) 😉😜
This comment couldn’t be further from the truth. Polaris has sold a tether through their accessories catalog for many years with the simple idea that riders wanting or needing a tether should either have their dealer or themselves install it. How many tether fails do you think manufacturers see in a year??? How many of those claims end in injury or worse? Adding a tether to the new sled is also adding liability to a lot of things. It’s location allows riders to use it on their jacket or either wrist which was thought out. It’s also in a spot that is somewhat protected. You say that you are a Polaris Fan, yet you destroy that in one comment. You also watch my channel yet say I’m a “sales guy” when I’ve been a passionate rider for many years just trying to carve a living out of what I do. For what it’s worth dude, with all the negativity that’s already in our world, why add to it? Just be stoked and share that message!!!
@@NextLevelRidingClinics I think the idea is, why has Polaris insisted we pay another $50 on a $15000+ sled for something so simple?
They act like it's a new thing, when everyone I know has been adding them for years.
Do you think it’s worth selling my 2021 khaos to get a 2022 khaos ?
Don’t mine me… Arctic cat rider watching Polaris videos… 😂
I miss the t-slots in the tunnel for attaching stuff. Do you have to drill holes now to attach storage bags/accessories to the tunnel on the Matryx?
I was always happy with the Axys headlights and ive heard of guys complaining that the Matryx headlights not putting off as good of light coverage as the Axys headlights.
Still 7 lbs difference and you didnt mention the fact that the Matryx has shorter tunnel heat exchangers, shorter and narrower tunnel. Those cut back on weight, yet the Matryx is still 7 lbs heavier.
I do really like that the 7s comes stock with a battery just for the display even when you do not have E-start. That was a pain on my PIDD when I would turn off and start back up my sled without E-start.
How much are these things? I want one.
Some going for 28000 on fb
Google broke?
@@Icutmetal don't be like that.
@@timbutler3213 Be like what? You could have had his answer by the time you finished typing your question on a random TH-cam video if you would have used your head.
@@Icutmetal Maybe I wanted to ask instead. Why do you care? Do you always get so easily put off? Maybe by you replying how you did speaks more about yourself than me.
Won't lie..the axys looks better
Spot on, Dan! Been waiting for excactly this video! Perfect. The new Matryx looks spot on, but then again, so does the Axys.
Looks like a RMK 2011
Anyone having problems failing plugs I’ve got 560 miles on my 850 and I go through about 6 to 10 plugs a ride
50lbs on my sled almost
tracking does not work without a gsm phone. do you have gsm everywhere in the ski areas? non-turbo matrix differs little from axys, only by the cooling system, tunnel and plastic. new driving failed. the turbo matrix has a different variator and a really powerful engine. but in Russia, Polaris dealers are very bad, if the engine breaks down, then the season is lost.
7S display cost 1000.00 more which should be standard on a costly machine like these.
Hey Dan, Merry Christmas, great informative vids! Just wondering what is the height from floor to bulkhead and also lower a arm to ski bolt? Thanks
Here I am still rocking my 09 IQ RMK 700... I better never try one of these !
wowo! new brake lever? wow! ive been saying that the brake lever is holding me back from going pro for years now. its crazy that it took over 50 years to come out with this "new" brake lever. game changing
I don’t know how Dan got this place with Polaris…his brother builds incredible houses though…
This would be like a freeride vs summit?
No not at all.
Nope.
i like your vedeos
Doo; 1st factory turbo, revolutionary mono-rail.
Polaris: new hood, new gauge...
I love my Polaris, but Polaris Corp needs to step up their game. Where is the innovation? Hard to get excited about cosmetic changes.
Arctic Cat needs to step up their game. (I have a 19’ alpha as one of my sleds). Skidoo comes out with a turbo. Then Polaris comes out with a turbo. And arctic cat shows up and says “we have a change to our primary clutch”. The supercharger on the cat is a gimme. Put it on factory and let it go to market for crying out loud.
Idk if it’s just me but I think the matryx looks 100x better
Everything stil the same in other words? At least all that would matter. Some new stickers and likely a new and improved price tage......yeah? Nothing to see here, moving on.
“The tunnel is garbage.. there no reinforcing there… everybody I’ve ever known or heard of or rode with that has one of those has a bent tunnel”. 😂😂 Where are you people who used to say that back when the alpha chassis came out? 🤣😂🤣. I bet we don’t hear that one anymore.
Unbelievable how much negativity here. If Polaris wanted to build something indestructible it would not only be more expensive, but also heavier….& then the comments would be about weight and not durability. I get it that there are die-hard riders out there that demand the best, but saying that anyone’s ideas or products is “garbage” is easily not part of the solution. We are all in this together aren’t we?
I’m simply saying that after the Alpha Chassis came out that’s the only thing every person that ever owned a Polaris could say is that the tunnel is weak and they fold in two because there’s nothing on the bottom side of the tunnel to prevent it. And now I think it’s rather entertaining that that narrative will instantly be no more. It’s all in good fun. (Btw, I own an axys, an 800 skidoo, and an alpha)
@@Rudevette I’ve been on a Polaris for 20 years and riding for Polaris for the last 14 and have not heard one comment about an Arctic tunnel so to say that every Polaris rider says or thinks that is straight wrong. These manufacturers (all of them) work their asses off to make products that work, none of it is garbage. It’s just different ideas and hey some work and some don’t.
Ride safe
Shocks ain't cool if there isnt a cowboy on them
Avatar This guy is too much
The major difference is the matryx looks like absolute shit compared to the axys…I’m sure it’s a great sled but they are ugly as hell
Oh fuck... My Dragon 2009 are crying
Omg the 09 dragon.. we use to say poo called it the dragon because we were always dragon are buddies dragon out of the woods 🤣 he went through 4 motors on that sled.. when he got around 800 miles on a new rebuild that pos would come apart again just like clock work
@@jimbeam9176 a month ago my gasoline pump broke down in the mountains. and a week ago the steering column burst. now a meter and a half of snow has fallen outside the window - I cannot ride it
@@rategov686 All of ‘em break, and they’ve all built turd models.
Still have the junk lower a arms?!
Man guy I have a really hard time seeing this comment. Polaris, not unlike every manufacturer, spends more money and time developing these machines…. for someone to call things junk is just unreal. It’s a bummer you have so much negative energy.
The A-arms are meant to fail so the bigger more expensive parts stay true. It’s not that they are weak, it’s they are built a specific way to protect the rest of the machine when we hit stuff….and we all hit stuff.
Hope you have a safe winter!!
Polaris has the best A-arms to offer, even considering aftermarket brands. If you actually hit a huge rock and bend the bottom one then all you have to do is replace it and your good to go. The other branded sleds or “stronger” A-arms will be left with bent bulkhead mounts or bent bulkheads. $150 a-arm that you can get anywhere is betger than a totaled snowmobile that drives crooked for ever. You’re missing the point man.
@@NextLevelRidingClinics I definitely agree that replacing easy parts like a-arms is better than replacing bulkheads. Got all the grip'n'rip braces on my 2020 skidoo just for that very reason. And yes...calling any of our modern machines junk is just unreal!! One brand may have a slightly better idea but they are all amazing works of engineering.
Choose a better attitude, man…sheesh. You know what stronger a-arms get ya? Bent bulkheads, that’s what. I love my SkiDoo and all, but would happy to be able to change out a-arms as easily as on a Polaris.
Not worth the money at all if you have to actually work for your money
It's starting to look too much like a ski-doo,🤦
The title. What's, not whats. If you want to be respected as a legitimate channel use proper grammar.
Zzzzzzzz
I don't know about you, but I'd never buy a snowmobile from a company that can't even spell matrix or axis.
well at least they Chaos right!