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As a Black American who lived in Europe for a few years, I agree with this approach. If law enforcement officers in the USA don’t want to feel targeted, they can just do better.
Exactly -- if they're offended, they're part of the problem.
Yep. It really is that simple. Just treat us equally as you do when dealing with white people in situations like this. Simple.
They'd much rather feel targeted by some country they'll never go to, than change their behavior.
Cops in the US need consequences for bad actions, that’s the main thing missing and why it seems like they are getting worse. If you get away with running a red light on day on, you are speeding and hitting other cars on day 2
I'm not saying US cops can't do better, but that's also like asking a fish to breathe out of water. It's the system of policing that needs to be replaced with consent based enforcement and criminogenic based prevention.
We are not American cops. You are safe! How can we help? I think letting that Black American know that their life isn't in danger is vital.
Yes! 👍
that's what it's come down to.....
I guess other countries sees what is going on in AMERIKKKKKA. An encounter with a COP in a AMERIKKKKKA
Equals a death sentence for a black man a black child black woman. It is traumatizing and it keeps having everyday
Very true thanks Rita.
Wait, you travel to an european country and EXPECT Europeans to tell you, that they are not US Americans? Haha. We know that you are not the brightest nation on t his planet but come on, you TRAVEL to another COUNTRY. Of course they are not US cops. Try to use your freaking brain for a second.
It takes longer to train a taxi driver in London, than it does to be a qualified police officer, carrying a gun, in most US states
It takes longer to become a licensed cosmetologist than it does to become a police officer in most US states.
American policing is quite dependent on high school's... less-than-stellar performers.
@@user-el5yw1er2j And for people whose job authorizes them to carry guns and other implements that can cause bodily harm, sending police officers out with so little proper training is preposterous. It just goes to show what little value is placed on human life - especially the life of human beings with skins of a darker hue - in the United States of America.
@@djl8509 american law enforcement was NEVER designed to 'help' ppl; it was designed to keep ppl in line. strictly a CONTROL mechanism. read about J. EDGAR HOOVER; he was a frightening, horrific creature. but a predictable product of the good old USA.
@@djl8509you forget that in the US you don't need any training to carry a gun.
Yeah, it’s pretty incredible what taxi drivers are expected to know in London. They test them on the most obscure streets and intersections.
As a European citizen, thiis is such a HUGE cultural difference that cuts both ways. No matter how much I believe all my American friends that the USA is a great country, the notion that a Police officer approaching me has the very REAL chance of me ending up tassed or dead if for whatever reason things go south is such an extreme conclusion.
I am NEVER afraid of any police officer/officers approaching me in Europe.
As an Australian, it pleases me that while our police aren't perfect recently a police officer was fired and is being criminally charged for tazering an elderly woman....at least we are trying to do better.
Beau as a Black American I take no issue with provided suggestions to European police. Be direct, and most of all yes, let Black Americans know you're NOT like American cops. Implicit bias is a helluva thing.
Most Americans have ptsd because of cops. Sad.
@@valerieschmidtzuzu As a white dude, I might not have to worry as much about the cops being racist. I'm still terrified that their going to be stupid enough to get someone hurt anyway. They're hired for conformity, not intelligence.
That's part of the tragedy of it all. The good ones are suspect as well, and these race-based biases cut both ways. The unique problem for America IS all the guns. That's where their real fear lles It ain't going away either.
@@valerieschmidtzuzu This is actually true for many minorities in Canada, I as a 58 yr old "White" guy have had more bad experiences when dealing with Law Enforcement Units than good by a huge margin.
Or say: we actually serve
The way the US cops behave always reminds me of an occuping military force, rather than a "peace" officer.
Holy shit, yes. Not just a normal military occupation though.
Reminds me of the stories from 1944/1945, when the Nazi forces were getting desperate and violent for the sake of violence, instead of maintaining their power.
This entire comment section made me depressed, what a terrible way to live.
“We’re not American cops” indeed
Police force became militarized sometime in the last 15 or so years.
exactly.
There are so many cops who see those they are supposed to serve as animals. I've know a few EMTs as well who started out liberal but due to their jobs after some years had the exact same attitude.
@@travisrlel2It was a combination of the DOJ policy of passing on unused materials to police departments and the increased number of combat veterans who served in areas where many of them viewed the native population a potential enemies and who then went on to become cops when they returned. The idea of using all that "cool" military gear meant cops who weren't vets could live out their Rambo fantasies. And you also had othe cops who knew how to use the equipment and were comfortable doing so again. A third problem was the introduction of Israeli military training imo our police forces that spread rapidly around the same time. Then throw in the increased number of guns, including AR-15s, after Bush let the gun ban lapse. It all creates an ugly stew.
I saw this happen once on a street in Malmö. The cop said something like "please, sir, take your hands down. I am here for everybodys safety, including yours. I got a report about your argument and came over to see if I can be of help. Nobody is in trouble. You have not done anything illegal".
I think that is the best way to handle the situation. Most Officers in the U.S. are good. The media just puts the bad interactions on TV or online. Saying I am not like an American officer is very offensive.
@@ameliadavis1979 As an American, it's _absolutely not_ just a media thing, cops here really are absolutely terrible.
@@ameliadavis1979oh no, friend, absolutely not. American policing is a rotten tree and the "good apples" are few and far between. I've never considered them safe people (or useful in a time of crisis) and I'm white as white can be. For people with darker skin, less easily masked queerness or neurodivergence being near them can be fatal. Maybe you live in a oddly idyllic town of well trained cops who deescalate but lemme tell ya that is not common.
@@ameliadavis1979 your experience doesn't match with what people endure daily.
@@ameliadavis1979 Soo uhh... U a cop?
The male half of an American couple living in the Netherlands got a heart-attack while at home. The ambulance came, two members of the personnel treated the man while still in his appartment to take away the immediate threat to his life, while a third member calmed down his wife, saying: don't you worry, he's gonna be okay, and also don't worry about the money, we know that you are American, but you don't have to pay for this all.
The Dutch law keeps insurance companies in check. I pay 160 euro premium per month. I have a 385 euro deductible per year. With that I have no worries what so ever. I can visit the doctor as often as I like. Ambulance, hospital bed, surgery, it's all covered. I don't think that's too bad.
"How can we help?"
4 words that would change law enforcement forever.
Only if they meant them. They are raised playing cops and robbers... To grow up to play cops and robbers and shoot the bad guy. I'm grateful for my 20 years in the 20th century before it's end, but it's not hard to see the connection between the games we played as kids and how it relates to what we believe as adults.
Idk maybe that might help.
I might not be black.
But as an Asian american from the projects my experience with cops hasn't been all that great either.
Lucky for me where I come from cop's doesn't shoot anyone. But they also don't do anything.
Took me 20 min to convince the cops to make my abusive ex to leave the house.
@@amehayami934 I'm sorry that you had to goo thru the time to get to the abusive ex being an ex. Wishing for good and safety for you from here on out.
I remember when I was broken down on the side of the road and a highway patrol officer pulled up behind me and asked me If I needed a tow truck.
I told him I had already called one and it was on it's way. He then asked me for my license and and wrote me a $325 ticket.
The ticket was because when I registered my truck years ago I had a camper shell on the bed, but I removed that camper shell from the bed of my truck.
So I had to pay to fix my truck, pay for the tow, and got a nice ticket. Really made me feel glad that law enforcement was there to help me like that.
@@bobhope4288 I don't understand. What has your camper shell have to do with getting a ticket ? They come off and on, they're not a permanent installation. This is bullshit. I'm sorry, I don't get it. But wow, 😳, I'm so sorry.
As a 50 yr old Black man, I can honestly say that I have never heard a police officer in the U.S. ask me, "Is there anything I can do to help? ". I've been treated with more respect by police I've met while being deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan, than here in the US.
If I understood correctly in parts of Afghanistan the police were trained by Dutch police.
Thank you for your service. I always ask people if I may help them, not insist that they accept my help.
I second that👍🏾 Mostly what I have heard is 'Is there a problem here?'
@@chichiohaebosim8386 As a white person, I would consider that question to be neutral...it could be taken as an offer to help, or otherwise, depending on the situation. LEO can impound your car and take you downtown to be booked if you have FTAs or are DUI, regardless what color your skin is. They are not there solely to offer assistance. There is no good time to ignore officers instructions either. armed or not, and that is true for all colors as well. I'm not trying to disrespect your take, or to give LE a pass. I wanted to share my take as a white male who has had both good and bad (no shots fired) interactions with LE.
@@photonjones5908 None of what you said is incorrect. That said, the circumstances and manner in which the question was delivered is what makes the query untenable. I was with a friend at a park where some of us were playing basketball. She had lost her sunglasses by her car and was a bit frantic about it. So a couple of us started helping her look for them. I heard that question from behind me and when I turned around the LEO had his hand by his gun. And this was without knowing what was going on where nobody was aggressive towards anyone else. It is THAT framing that caused the gentleman in Denmark to put his hands up as I did that day. Nobody says that an LEO should be carefree in dealing with anyone, but there was nothing that prompted him to be ready to shoot a bunch of people looking for some sunglasses. Even a simple 'Hey guys what's going on?' from a safe distance would have been better. The saddest thing is that I have more than my fair share of those interactions in my lifetime. I join many of the commenters in saying that it will take a couple generations to change the manner of policing in this country for it to return to protect and serve even for you and my other fair skinned brethren to benefit from.....
As I Black American, I would like for a cop to take the position of being an advocate towards the situation by asking a question: “How can I help?” Giving a harsh demand ignores the citizen’s need to be help or heard.
more importantly speaking harshly actually dehumanizes the subject
@DeReAntiqua as someone on the inside of this madhouse, many of us just try to quietly be the best we know how, and learn to be better. When you are dealing with the level of violent nut jobs we have its very dangerous to try and speak up.. my neighbors don't know I voted blue, if they did I honestly would be scared of some of them trying to vandalize my home or hurt my animals or gardens.. in many places you have to keep up appearances to be safe.
Well as a cop in the us your life can end very quickly. I kind of understand them. It's easy to be a cop in Denmark, where I am from. Very few guns around.
I travel in Europe a lot, I'm a 6'4 black guy. I have interacted with cops in Greece, Serbia, Germany, etc...mainly to ask how to get somewhere. They were all professional and helpful. On the other hand, A cop was beating on my door unannounced, I opened the door quickly to see who the jackass was, since he wasn't standing off to the side, the door clipped him. He immediately started threatening me with jail and saying I could have been shot. Turns out, he was at the wrong address.
During WW2 a pub in Lancashire, England was told by a US officer that it would have to institute a colour bar for US personnel who used the pub. The next day, the pub displayed a sign reading "Blacks only".
For anyone wishing to know more, look up "Incident at Bamber Bridge". There's a lot to the story about relative racism between white American troops and British troops when it came to dealing with Black American troops.
@@fizzyridertoo what the fuck. American army there was more racist that the apartheied army of south Africa
@@fizzyridertoo Wow, I had never heard of that before. I did look it up. I had never heard of any event like that happening in our military.
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Your story has been confirmed by a documentary on the History Channel that spoke of race relations, between Black American soldiers and their white counterparts. This one man,who was a child at the time,stated his family was fine with Black American soldiers coming to their pub. They even welcomed them. Then white American soldiers started coming to the same pub and the white soldiers began fighting with the black soldiers...for no reason at all except that they didn't want the black soldiers there at the same time. The man started that the black soldiers had never caused any problems, but that the white soldiers did,which is why they started separate nights for the black and white soldiers to come to their pub.
As a black man that have interactions with police in Germany, Russia, Panama Central America, and other countries, nothing but respect.
I’ve only experienced racism from police here in my own country. The key to combating racism from cops is to fully understand your rights as a citizen.
That is sad. It makes me ashamed of this country.
Blacks lead the country in murder and theft.. stop trying to act like you guys do nothing wrong
@@gaylevautaw2913 you's be even more ashamed if you knew all the details of this country's systemic, endemic, government sponsored racism that condones bad treatment of POCs by police.
The key beating cops is to comply first and complain later.
It is not hard. Do not argue.
@@nescionetizen295 Seen plenty of vids of unarmed black Americans being gunned down when complying.
I salute you for using your platform to address this festering injustice.
Seconded, kudos to Beau.
In Glasgow Scotland the officers don’t carry guns. I saw them handle a street fight without violence and sent everyone on their way. Also they are visible and walk the streets not hiding in cars. I became lost and was hesitant to ask the Scottish offers for directions but felt it was safer to ask them. I was so shocked at how helpful they were and I didn’t feel like a black woman just a person needing directions.
note : there are not many of our people in scotland that may explain it... i daresay the english are the original.
That last sentence made me feel very sad; the fact that you don't constantly feel like "a person". Not that I need reminding but it does remind me to avoid the usa like the plague.
I'm so sorry that your life eperiences made you feel that. You are a person, and you should be treated as such everywhere.
@@asaasare220 I do not know what you are trying to say. Scotland is 1% black. White Scottish Celts are the original people, not English.
In the UK, I was taught as a child, 'If you get lost, ask a policeman'.
"Your not in trouble. How can we help?" from law enforcement, to an American, especially a Black American, would just be stunning. And that's horrible.
The catch is, American cops are explicitly permitted to lie about such things.
@@rileyfaelanexactly. I'm not African American, but as a woman who is transsexual, that would almost sound like a trap.
@@MarcillaSmith yeah, but as an American, we need to be openminded to the fact that Europe isn't governed like we are governed. Their cops aren't solely Post Slavery/Riot Management Patrol, they ACTUALLY WANT to help.
I agree with the others. This isn't a reassurance Americans would buy. Everyone knows, or SHOULD know, cops lie all the time and are allowed to. Who ever believes "if you ask a cop if they're a cop they have to answer honestly" is a fool. I don't even know where that line of thinking comes from.
Cops are your enemy, if they’re saying that don’t believe them
I as a black American man of 53, I've had more than my share of unnecessary run-ins with overzealous cops and I agree with this message. Right at the start, just assure black travelers that they're not in trouble and that you're there to help. And yes, it's perfectly fine to say "don't worry, we're not like American cops."
So true. Being stopped for nothing, smart remarks, etc etc.
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Just wanted to say
... God Bless You. ❤
Sincerely,
A middle-aged white woman who absolutely is an ally. ✌️
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This bothers me ridiculously
As a black man I am both hesitant and skeptical of police. As a former DT instructor for police I am VERY skeptical of anything an officer says. Honestly I don't know if an officer saying 'I'm not like American cops' would put me at ease because I would immediately assume this was a tactic to lie to me to make a subsequent search easier.
I had a situation in Germany (I'm former military) where a police officer probably sensed my discomfort and quickly disengaged with me. Unfortunately, the hard-wired nature of police response in the black community leaves disengaging as the preferable option.
I have heard other cops say 'well I'm not like other police' while doing EXACTLY the same unconstitutional search practices of the 'crooked ' cops. I apologize for the length of this response I just figured it deserves thorough explanation.
Read my post
No one has the right to belittle your experience brother. I was based in Paderborn not far from Munster. Cops were cool with us until we acted a fool fighting in the clubs with the British soldiers and that was late 1988-1990. I had little dealings with them back then, but racist police do exist there and in Scandinavia, its just not on the level of the U.S. For me White Supremacy is global and even if they are not in your face with it, you can feel it.
Just know that while the US police officers are trained in what is basically a course that lasts less than a year, more or less every single other country on the planet, it is an education at it takes at least 3 years to complete and psychology is a very large portion of it.
@@kinuuni , some police academies are as short as 13 weeks in the states.
@@CabinFever52training will not keep a demon from acting like a demon.
I had an old friend from Atlanta visit me in Spain.
He spent a month here with me, after about two weeks he looked at me, almost chocking up and said that he just realised that for the first time in his life wasn't nervous when he saw two police officers walking past us.
As a African American woman, I agree with this approach. Just say that you're not like American cops and we'll quickly understand what that means. I love how this cop reached out to you. That is wonderful and appreciated.
He read my mind.. 💯 problem solved. 👍🏾
@p.patterson4174, the practice of raising your arms at the sight and approached by your overzealous cops is world wide practice. Visiting foreign countries especially in Europe, you have to abandon your Amerikka culture of bickering at slight disconcerting shouting, that might create panic's in your new environment. Much is about culture unlike in Amerikka, where control and compliance is the laws and various interpretations of your amendments. Visiting foreign lands, observe and embrace your new surrounding, it is common sense. Amerikka is not panacea of hope when it comes to social values. If you cannot be a good observant in a foreign lands, stay in your home with General R. lee
@@juwe9516 I believe most Black Americans know and understand this perfectly well.. Maybe I'm a little confused now but your message sounds a bit condescending.
You travel to another country and need to hear from local cops that they are not US cops? If you don't understand the concept of countries, borders and nations, then you should geteeducated first before you leave your country.
@@hotshot6674 Have you ever heard of battered wife syndrome? This is more of a reflex! Not a lack of understanding.
People in foreign countries must look at American politics, Healthcare, and policing with just absolute disdain
True
And disgust. I'm Swedish, and when the justice system - particularly the prison bit - comes up, there's often arguments about what we here are doing wrong, but if someone brings up the US system, the reaction is near universal disgust.
I also think many of us Americans do as well.....
We do.
It's kind of like watching a rich upper-middle class family where the parents work part time and so have all the time and resources needed to give their kids a good upbringing.
But instead they're abusive towards their kids, they're too cheap to provide good healthcare (and sometimes even food) and they refuse to pay for the kids' university so the kids end up in debt.
We feel really sorry for you.
My experience:
I went to Paris in 2008 and took almost 500 pictures.
While I took pictures of the Royale Palais, one of the cops approached
me, very courteous which caught me off guard
He explained that he didn't know if I was taking surveillance photos and I had to delete them.
We stood side by side as he watched.
He even chuckled that I had so many pics.
We said thank you and have a good day to each other. 😎
Who knew cops can be decent human beings?
Who knew? 🤔
I am a black American, and non-blacks have to understand that when some Black people see cops, it’s a natural reaction for us to immediately feel like our lives are in danger. Think of it as post traumatic stress syndrome. I think your tips you gave European cops are helpful.
I am not an American, so I don't fully understand the situation, but I just wanted to say I'm sorry this is happening, and that I hope things will get better. Sending free hugs your way. Peace & love from Brazil. ❤
@@HaggenKennedy Thank you. 🙏🏽 Your kind words mean a lot. ❤️
I'm a white American and I understand it's a perfectly rational reaction.
Only a dumb black person would not.
And I mean DUMB as dumb can be.
@@HaggenKennedy The Brazilian police have a problem with dark-skinned people also.
As an African American citizen, thank you Denmark whole-heartedly, for even inquiring on how to ease the PTSD of what it is to be an American "Black " person. The story you just told Beau had me on edge because I already was waiting for the officer to behave in an American manner towards the African American couple. The end result had me floored, I wanted more of this awesome understanding by a European officer. Great story Beau.
i posted it up here:
In America a cop ask you ""can i help ???????????"" you know you are in big truble and on the way to Jail or Coffin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In Europe a Cop ask You ""can i help ???"" you know (here) you are safe and the Cop means what he said .........
In America when you say ""no thanks, im fine "" you get a unimaginable escalation and secounds later you are surroundet by 5 Swat-Cars with 20 Cops with 40 big waepons ..........
In Europe when you say "" no thanks, im fine "" ...the cop answers "" ok, have a nice day , by ""
THATS the diffenernce .... and WE HERE fine with that
Greetings from Germany
... and btw ................. im 67 ... and i have in my lifetime 3 "meetings" with cops on the street (because of defect lights ..................)
It's not PTSD. It is CPTSD because it is not one incident, but an ongoing and repeated abuse. There are differences.
Encountering Danish policing and healthcare at the same time must be either elating or infuriating (because why should you have to endure so much horrible s... stuff if it clearly is possible and practicable to do it differently)
Same here, I thought they were going to get beat or something.
@@zmanr2090 danish people are pretty racist, but not so much towards americans, or to the point of violent behavior, in the case of regular police
Way back in the 80s I had a friend enroll in the police academy. When I ran into her months later I found out that she had changed her mind and quit. When I asked her why, her response was.."They were teaching us to fear the people who we were supposed to be protecting."
I know an ex-cop, San Francisco PD, who quit for similar reasons, when he realized how many of his "brothers in blue" were bullies.
My father want to be a cop in the 70s in a big city. Took the test was told he was too smart for the job.
Instead he became a civil planer to help get rapid transit setup in cities.
As a Black American, this is actually one of the reasons I'm planning on leaving the states. I don't want my daughter to grow up fearing police officers. Once I finish college and gain experience, I will be applying for jobs overseas.
Far right groups are actual political parties in some European countries, so be aware of the social climate you're moving to and don't fool yourself into thinking racism is an American product.
You might find quickly, the major difference is that outside Usa , police aren't as trained / _conditioned_ that a person to be checked, might be armed , unless there's info they carrying guns or knives.
But
Count on being hold up just as much as a black person would be in the states.
I'm white, I've _never_ been pulled over ever. Only once, when asked what's my business as a stranger in an area where they had a wave of burglary. Once. In 60 years.
Not so for black folks or those with Moroccan / Turkish roots. If you drive while black, count on being checked upon, especially if your car is an expensive model, or if yer driving in a rich folks neighborhood. Famed black sports or music stars have often witnessed their stories, but that won't stop them white cops from pulling them over again and again.
You won't be held at gunpoint, but you'll be checked and checked and checked, and many a cop is downright racist when confronted with colored ppl.
Dunno about Scandinavia, what's this clip about. But France Belgium, Italian, most of southern Europe really, you won't be left alone while Black. UK Germany, only slightly less.
Still better than the risks you run being black and meeting police in USA, but far from how it should be. Stay Strong and be cool.
Let me give you some insight man. I’ve lived in Japan as a black American for nearly 10 years. Right out of college I moved to Tokyo, built myself up, started my own business, frequented parties, clubs, late night excursions, you name it I’ve done it.
In the nearly 10 years I’ve been in Japan I’ve only been spoken to by the police once and it was me who was in the wrong.
They treated me with respect, even commended my language skills in Japanese as I was able to express my grievances clearly.
I never felt threatened or in danger. That’s in Japan. A country that many proclaim to be one of the most xenophobic countries on earth.
I now have a daughter who is Japanese. Born and bred. I would not even consider putting her in school in the US or even dealing with US societal issues.
Granted Japan has its own problems but those I can handle. Anything that puts her in danger even in the slightest I’m avoiding. It’s too bad that the living in the US is one of those things.
I’ve now been to several countries in the world and in my experience it isn’t nearly as bad as American media and fear mongers make it out to be.
Everywhere I’ve been I’ve experienced considerably less prejudice than in the US. Especially among law enforcement.
@@THECASUALco Why did you choose Tokyo immediately after college?
Stop CAP N! Running away is not the answer!
I would be set at ease if cops were actually held accountable for extra judicial killings.
That is why it's called systemic genocidal racism. If the system were not giving a wink and a nudge it would not have been called systemic genocidal racism. The world is seeing this for what it is and that loss of moral high ground has clearly caused the United States a lot perhaps they can stop doing that garbage.
Well, in Europe they are.
Absolutely. They still often *get away* with doing more than they are allowed.. but it's kinda rare that they actually do more than they are allowed.
That part.
@@Vallinen92 Yeah, true. Our police forces are far from perfect, but they are still on a MUCH shorter leash than the one in USA. Most of the crimes and injustices that police officers routinely commit oversees are extremely rare here.
...although that may not be true for France, judging by the recent news. Colonialism and white supremacy still all the rage, eh?
I am an American black mother of a black son. When he was in high school a group of white classmates of his were caught doing donuts in a field late at night. My son and I happened to drive by the scene and saw the cops had arrived.
The kids were lined up on the side of the road with their parents present. The cops had allowed them to call their parents. The cops had given the kids blankets, because it was the middle of the winter. Each of their parents were clearly angry with them.
The cops stood and attentively watched as the parents lectured their children. It was clear that this was being treated as a “kids will be kids” situation by the cops. Why? Because the cops were also white and probably looked at the kids and thought, “Oh, these kids remind me of my own.”
They humanized them and saw their own children, nieces, nephews etc. in the faces of the white kids. Their empathy and familiarity kicked in and they treated those kids with familial kindness and understanding.
I told my son that the story would have probably been different if it had been a group of black kids. He agreed. Why? Because the empathy of many US police officers only extends as far as those who look like them.
They dehumanize black kids. They don’t see kids, they see grown thugs who are a threat.
I don’t believe blankets would have been handed out. I don’t believe parents would have been called. I believe the outcome may have been more grave and for much less of an offense, if those kids were black. We’ve seen it play out too many times.
Training surrounding culture and race needs to be taught. In the US, background checks for police officers need to be thorough and monitoring and training for racial bias needs to be ongoing. That’s just one suggestion. However, I am not naive. I know this issue is systemic in the US. That is why my suggestion seems like a mere bandaid.
As for the way we as black people are seen and treated in other countries, I am glad the European officer recognized that the reaction of the couple was rooted in the trauma caused by the systemic racism in the US. We have some wonderful officers here, yet those who embrace the brutalization of black people and who lack empathy and understanding have been loud. Their actions have reverberated around the world. So, the fact that the European officer even asks gives me a , dare I say, glimmer of hope that others see what is going on.
I would say follow protocol and approach cautiously, while understanding that we are people. Regardless of how we may have been painted by Hollywood or the US media, you, as a servant of people, need to make sure you engage with empathy and with the understanding that we are your fellow man. (It feels weird and it makes me so angry to even have to remind people of this.) Still, this understanding and level of empathy will lay a good foundation for any actions to follow.
Very good post.
Please use paragraphs for long posts, please, it makes them easier to read.
@@MonkeyJedi99 Thanks for your considerate reply. I went back and separated it out a little. Hope it helps.
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The rest of the world is very aware of the state of 'Policing' in the USA. About all that could be done is to get rid of the lot of them and start again. Preferably by importing some serious European Police trainers. It would take a decade and I do not see it happening.
Great comment! I only take issue with "We have some wonderful officers here...". Do you? I mean, I have met many, seemingly, good police, but to then find out that they had never reported their fellow officers for bad behavior, they had never arrested a fellow officer for breaking the law. I see many police encounters and I cannot believe that an officer that has served their entire career and hasn't witnessed either. With the problems we have, it just seems impossible. In mind opinion, if you aren't working to fix the problem, you are part of the problem and just getting by and being a "good officer" is not fixing the problem. A good officer doesn't turn a blind eye. Nothing is ever going to be fixed, if the good apples don't work to expose and eliminate the bad apples.
I'm a white male from Australia. I was in the US a few years ago and I had a few hours to kill while waiting for my partner to arrive at Seattle airport. I decided to go for a drive to try and get a good photo of Mt Rainier (A surprisingly difficult task considering how large that mountain is!). I was driving through the town of Black Diamond and I noticed that I was being followed by the local sheriff. I pulled over and he pulled over behind me. I got out of the car and went to talk to him . As he got out of his car, he had his hand hovering over his gun. I said "Hey mate, how are ya?" and he pretty much immediately relaxed and commented on the fact that I was obviously Australian. I spoke to him for a while and he recommended a spot that he thought I could get a good photo from, and then told me "If you get pulled over in America, stay in your vehicle and keep your hands visible". After I'd gone on my way, I sort of had a realisation: If I hadn't been white, and I hadn't immediately come across as a tourist, I don't know what he would have done. I spent the rest of the trip getting anxious every time I saw a police officer or police car. Sort of brought the enjoyment levels down. Is that feeling how all US residents feel all the time? If so, that's a serious impact on quality of life!
There was a man from Nigeria that just moved to the US. He got pulled over by the police and he didn't know to stay in the car.
He got out of the car and approached the officer.
He was killed.
This is why, as a black female, I will never go again as they harassed me continually to the point I had to leave the US and go to Mexico. When finished, we drove straight back to Canada without many stops. Finished my holiday, then went back to the UK. Now live in Paris and feel very safe
I'm on like my 5th draft of this comment.
What you were feeling is what woke white folk feel when they think about it and what POCs feel moment to moment when a cop is around or could be called.
The real insidious part is how we get trained like kids in an abusive home (except Dad absolutely will kill you without thinking twice and never face justice).
You would have been shot !
Yes
Isn't it weird how with all their money and investigative capabilities and manpower, the cops still can't figure out who among them is a ACTUAL REGISTERED KKK member?
Or is it that they don't care?
The latter
Dane here.
I visited chicago about a decade ago as a tourist. One night I was lost trying to find my way back to the hotel; I asked a couple cops on McD parkinglot for directions. I went to them because I thought they were there to help ppl in distress and I was lost in a foreign city.
Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine they would threaten me with arrest if I didn't leave the area immidiatly....
I spent the rest of that night walking through shady suburb neighbourhoods. Every american I met after that said I was lucky to survive and not being robbed. Seemed like the cops were as dangerous as the shady robbers I was warned about...
Our cops provide service to the public and don't assume you are a criminal. -I guess guns per capita is one thing that make americans cop act like everyone is a potential murderer....
The Chicago police department is notoriously corrupt.
Generally the quality of cops vary significantly city to city.
I had a very similar experience in NYC.
Nåh ja hvor vildt..
@@citizenVader Det var helt absurd. Jeg prøvede desperat at forklare at jeg var tourist og farret vild. Den kvibdelige betjent råbte mig ind i hovedet at jeg skulle træde tilbage og gå væk ellers ville jeg blive anholdt for at forstyrre ordensmagten...
Siden da har jeg fsktisk godt kunne forstå hvorfor amerikanerene er så modvillige til at ringe efter politiet og samtidigt føler at skydevpben er deres eneste forsvar...
Det er bare en ond cirkel!
As a long-time resident of Chicago, it hurts my heart you had such a dreadful experience here. What is SO annoying about your situation, is the slogan on every single CPD car says “We serve and protect”. That was their assignment.
I apologize for their actions and lack of respect. 👵🏻🇺🇸⚖️🥺
As I was listening to this video and reading the comments, I recalled that over 90% of Danish Jews survived the Holocaust because of actions taken by their government and their neighbours. The Danish cop who sent you this question reflects a society with a very commendable set of values.
It’s pretty good here, but we still have policing problems, especially if you’re of Middle Eastern descent. We even have a law stating that crimes committed in “ghettoes” will be charged double. In Denmark
@@Luke-pp2lw Oh wow, that's American levels of messed up. Though at least it's written out. In the US, it's usually just a given.
@@kevinjones3518 That "Ghetto law" is the product of the previous right-wing government, but very much to my surprise seems to actually be trying to do what they say instead of just an excuse to "other" folks. The idea behind it is to make more integrated/mixed "Dutch" communities instead of ethnically (and economically) segregated ones. Yes, it also includes the old hard-right tropes of forcing people to speak Danish and such, but while I might not agree, I can respect honest attempts at *helping* migrants integrate and become Danish. The American version would say it is about integration but actually be about kicking down and vilifying.
@@kevinjones3518 theirs " hard on crime" morons in every country ... even here in new zealand we have them .. they way they go one you would this it was a war zone out thee .. the politics of far are effecitve .. they why they use them .. its all why they use of them is a great indicator of the sort of party they are ... lord knows our police are no angels ... dawn raids in th 70s and 80s being only a part of it ... still i am sort of pissed at demark this year because they bumped us off the top spot for a whole bunch on stats this year ... .. just you wait next year for sure we'll be back on top of the lest corrupt country's index ... even if we had to play dirty to do it ...
@@travcollier Danes aren't Dutch. They're Danish.
I am an African American in Georgia and for years we have taught our youth, especially males to hold up both hands, verbally say that I am complying and not to look or act threatening in ANY way. We have practiced this in our churches, in our homes and community, especially these last 10 or more years
This is horrific to read about you needing to teach kids this. Just horrific.
Here in New Jersey, growing up in a predominantly white county, we were taught how to interact with not only law enforcement, but also whites in the school system and parents of our white friends...pretty much anyone of authority. We were taught that although, we're taught in school that blacks migrated from the South to the north after slavery to be safe, it's a false sense of security. Subtle racism is far more dangerous because getting comfortable could be very dangerous
I have a son and what’s horrible is to be afraid every time he leaves the house. When he was in high school (and even now) the majority of his friends were white. I had no problem with this, but what I feared more than anything was some white father getting angry because his daughter was with my son. My son is deep chocolate brown and for some reason the little white girls in the school he attended flocked toward him. It really scared me because we live in Georgia and there are horror stories that start out with this scenario.
I'm 40 yo and I was taught this as a kid also.
@@leslielewis40 My youngest had that same issue when he was in high school. He eventually dated a white chick I hated because she was clearly dating him to piss off her parents. I warned him repeatedly and he thought I was just being prejudiced. UNTIL he went to her house one day. As he walked up the block from the bus station, several of the white men on her street came out of their doors and one had a gun. They all stared at him. He said when he got inside her house, he knew he would never come back again. And he didn't. He broke up with her shortly thereafter. Praise God, he is grown now with a Black wife.
This is sad. Black citizens are treated better over seas. The world 🌎 is watching.
During WW2, Americans in UK had to be shown educational videos about treating black soldiers the same way they treated any other soldier. Sure, there were probably plenty of racists in UK too, but not of the same type as what the whole chattel slavery and then american apartheid promoted in USA.
This is true: BUT the Europeans treat Africans inhumane. It's a control mechanism by white supremacists worldwide: always make your visiting Blacks feels superior to your resident Blacks. ❤️♥️♥️
They always have been. Do you realize during WW1 the U.S. sent black troops to the U.K. they got along great with their counterpart soldiers in the U.K. Then the White Americans showed up, The White soldiers started a fight with the Black soldiers because quote " Blacks can't drink with White's", well, the U.K. soldiers who have been fighting along side these men thought differently. THe U.K. soldiers and the Black soldiers promptly beat the ever loving shit out of the White soldiers. Basically saying don't bring that shit over here!
why is that surprising?
No all the time
I've always believed (as a black American) that the first contact with authorities anywhere could set the tone. There's a huge difference between, "Good afternoon, I'm officer Jake Davis, I'm pulling you over for a broken taillight," and "GET OUT OF THE CAR AND KEEP YOUR HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM!"
Really just address people the way you'd want to be addressed.
Yes. It's mindblowing that American cops approach every situation with maximum aggression and hostility, and then whine about people not repecting them. Respect is earned and their accounts are overdrawn.
If American cops don't want to be mocked, they should stop doing what they do. They bring the mockery upon themselves.
PREACH
Some are bad... Many are just as good or better than the entire idea that all police are evil... So remember the fact that evil and bad grab all the headlines and press... Here I have to admit the idea of the Golden Rule... As the best answer is " So treat all people the way you want to be treated." as the bases for interaction...
@@terrancestodolka4829 Thanks for your opinion/post.
Allow me to metaphor this...
I have an old car, its done good for me for many years, but lately its kinda hokey. It starts when it wants to, runs only as fast or slow as it wants, always needing more gas, oil, plugs, etc...
One day, I bring home a motorcycle, and the car asks me why I'm so stuck up. I say, were still good, its just that,
I CAN'T TRUST YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING ANYMORE.
When the bonds that hold a society together for so long become strained, and corrupted, for whatever reason; don't blame society if they want a do over.
@@stevenserna910 Yes. Seems Trust and mutual admiration are key and by showing one's own genuine concern and even caring when you can not do anything about others. Following the " Golden Rule " is one good start.
Yes! You win the prize. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
My daughter is a police offiser here in Norway. They have three years at university level school getting a bachelour degree. To attend the school in the first place there are several tests. So I guess maga would say we have a woke police. Thank goodness for that.
Considering the alternative i'd rather have a "woke" police force also ;)
Well cost isn't a barrier there. I didn't go to college in America because I couldn't afford it. If I lived in Norway I would've gone to college happily.
That's it... I'm moving to Norway
The people that cut our hair in the US get more training time than most of the police do.
More training and teaching is definitely a good thing, but then you have to fight your local government for funding.
A number of departments select for less educated applicants in America.
I am Danish (from Denmark) and police academy here take 3½ years, and far from everyone makes it through or is admitted in the first place. Police here are very good at deescalating and getting situations under control without having to resort to force, but are absolutely traning and capable of using force if necessary.
I can honestly say, as a Black American woman, I too get very nervous when a police car is behind me when I'm driving- and I work in an area of law enforcement. But the worst interaction I ever had with a cop came while I waited for a bus. The cop approached me, flirted with me and asked for my number. I respectfully declined ( I was in a relationship at the time). He got nasty with me and said "don't let me catch you in a dark stairwell by yourself". My blood ran cold, all I could do was stare at him, jaw dropped. Then he smiled and said, "I'm just f*%kin with you. Have a nice day!" In my heart, I know he wasn't playing. Because of that experience, I won't even date a cop. And its sad because I know there are plenty of fine officers out there, but Im not taking that chance.
OMG! That is terrifying! I'm so sorry, and I'm even more sorry you can't report him. Without being present, I agree. He wasn't playing, because no man will do that to a woman unless he means to take away her sense of security and freedom at the very least.
As a former LEO who happens to be Black, I can assure you this isn't easy to comment on. So many fellow officers have been stopped and frisked by cops in this country just because they can make no sense. My best friend a retired Chief, has to drive around with his jacket hanging in his back side window just in case he's stopped for some reason or another.
At the annual IACP (International Chief of Police) conference we have cops from across the globe and when you speak with them, let's say from France, Germany and even some countries in Africa, they all act like public servants instead of "containment enforcement officers" as some do in this country. This subject has a 1000 different variables Beau, I'm just glad you tackled it head on. There are some great consulting firms that are working extra hard to tackle, less lethal methods, situational awareness, conflict resolution, and so much more. It's an uphill battle, honestly the days of "Officer Friendly" are over. And that leads to so much discourse in our communities. Beau, I'm just glad you tackled this head on. We can do better if we just have empathy for one another. Let's start with that.
Not to mention, officer friendly probably wasn't friendly to everyone. It's not like racist policing was invented recently. One wonders if Mayberry coulda been a sundown town. Odds are good that it was.
Do you know of any Congressprople (or former), who could lead a national overhaul of our policing system? Val Demings comes to my mind, but I'm sure youve given this some thought.
Officer friendly lived in the communities he policed, they were his neighbors and people he saw at church or PTA meetings. Now officer friendly lives in a well off sub division and patrols in neighborhoods and people that he doesn't interact with otherwise.
On the LEO from other countries part:
I’m from Germany and our police has the (unofficial) slogan „the police - your friend and helper“. Just to give you some more perspective on that one.
That’s very different from LEO in the USA. When I (female, natural blonde) visited the USA twenty years ago, I felt uncomfortable whenever we encountered police, because the officers always looked like they were ready for battle (compared to my experience, where you can just go to the next police officer and ask questions).
Hmmm. I don’t know if you’d want this, but I somehow see a second-channel video possibility from this… maybe even a roundtable with Black former-LEOs (because you’re not the only one in these comments) or something?!? If you (and/or the others) would want that, here’s hoping Beau makes it happen. :)
As an American I completely approve of European cops talking trash about American cops.
I have also heard American cops talking trash about the cops in the next town over, the cops who are way too trigger happy on Black suspects. That's in private. In public, alas, they circle the wagons.
As a European I completely approve of European cops talking trash about American cops.
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If American cops don't want to be referred to as violent, Fascist thugs, there's a very simple solution: They could stop being violent, Fascist thugs.
Thing is... it makes sense. In Europe, while we do have racism, we don't have the same associations embedded in the US. For example, I had to look up what the deal was with watermelons and fried chicken and how they're related to racism. Then, there's the fact that American racism is a breed of its own. Our version of racism is: we swear and that's it, but the American version is more like: the racist gets some friends and chases the black guy on the street. Or we avoid people, like neighbours and that's it, the American racist builds an entire Civil War diorama and has a lot of Southern flags to let his black neighbour know he doesn't like him. Or in public policies, minorities may get shitty service over here, in the US, there are deliberately designed policies to exclude minorities. The effort Americans put in their racism is impressive. Ours is more casual and lazy, but Americans embrace it with gusto.
So, when I look at black Americans, I see Americans... I judge people by citizenship (and accent), without the mental associations with crime or stuff like that. For example, the myth of the angry black woman doesn't exist in Europe or I've never seen it. So yes, US police does seem to be excessively violent from our vantage point because they lived in a society that has a lot of assumptions/perceptions that are completely foreign to us. They seem like trigger happy psychopaths who love to murder and are looking for any excuse to kill someone and get away with it.
We need the world to openly shame what's going on in the US.
We do.. on so many levels, but the problem now seems to be that decency has died in the US, and the feeling of shame is no longer. The GOP do one atrocious act after the other and they get called out on it but they don’t care. If your elected officials cannot be touched by the feeling of shame, then why would the general populace.
It would take too much precious time.😢
As s black female an Afro Cuban Afro Puerto Rican to be exact, living my life in Italy, I NEVER fear police here. I'm from the South Bronx and when I was in 7th grade two Racist cops kidnapped her in her Catholic school uniform, on the way home from school. They put her in handcuffs put her in their car took her to an abandoned building and gang raped her. They killed innocent people, sold drugs and were WORSE than thevso called criminals who at least had a code. I hate American cops they were born out of the Slave catchers during SLAVERY. They still function in the same way. The police in Europe are professionals and I never feel fearful here. As s black female living in Italy I never fear police here. I'm from the South Bronx and when I was in 7th grade two Racist cops kidnapped her in her Catholic school uniform, on the way home from school. They put her in handcuffs put her in their car took her to an abandoned building and gang raped her. They killed innocent people, sold drugs and were WORSE than thevso called criminals who at least had a code. I hate American cops they were born out of the Slave catchers during SLAVERY. They still function in the same way. The police in Europe are professionals and I never feel fearful here.
@@TheAbdominalSnowman Decency has died? Heck America is currently falling off + under the judgment of God. Which sadly appears at this point to only become worse for proudly unrepentant America in particular
The shame is that it's basically Europe that could shame us. Most other countries the police there make ours look like the Vatican Guard. Try China, Russia, Mexico, Vietnam, Philippines ect... They are very corrupt.
5:40 This part says everything. "Calling on the police in Denmark does not come with the chance of a death sentence."
The whole world knows how awful our police system is. The world.
THE WHOLE WORLD!!!!!
That part was "the part
That's because they rarely come at all ;)
Blks Americans are scary people.thoes police have family and want to go home. My hat is off to the police having to deal with thugs raped people with low self-esteem.
In Germany, people with psychological problems are often shot down if they don’t comply immediately. There have also been incidents of people of color having mysterious deaths in prisons that technically couldn’t be suicide but are called that. It’s not a daily thing, but it happens.
I am a 6'5" black man. Your suggestion is fundamentally a good one. (The intermediary idea might work, but the problem still might be effectively disrupting their exchange without scaring them). Another version of your idea: From about 6-10 feet away with hands out in welcoming stance: "Excuse me, we do policing differently over here. I would like to talk to you about a way that we might be able to address your insulin problem. Could we talk about that?" This does not completely throw US cops under the bus, and it shows that the cop has listened, and still asks for consent to engage. By the way....love your work, Beau....I am always wondering whether you aspire to even a bigger platform....you certainly deserve it.
i agree
i have been saying that same thing for a long time
and he deserves a VERY hefty salary!
$100M isn’t too much in my opinion!
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lots and lots of loves
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lots and lots of hugs
Idgaf throw US cops under the bus. Sorry I have more empathy for the victims of police violence. Not popo.
I wonder if effecting a little embarrassment towards the US style of policing would be a good catalyst for change
I think that sounds like an excellent suggestion. Extremely calming and directly reassuring. And diplomatic as well.
I want to give your comment a thousand likes!
Citizens of any country acting that way when they see cops after just arguing is heartbreaking, and European police having to consider how to calm down American citizens who are afraid of the police really speaks novels.
Also look at the reaction from the Danish cop. Nobody got hurt, there was no escalation. But the American's reaction made him uncomfortable because he scared someone who hadn't done anything wrong, so he looked for help to deal with this better in the future.
He could have chuckled about it and made jokes about American cops, instead he wanted to avoid a repetition of that scene.
Makes you realize that just getting out of America by itself is a vacation for many Americans.
@@kpokpojiji; Nothing shows you what it's like on the inside like going outside looking in.
I am a black French female, I have travelled all over the world, been to many countries, but I cannot convince myself to spend a cent to travel to the US and I honestly can say it is because of the Police. The depiction of how life is for Black people in the US in movies, in the news, has blocked me from this step. I know it can be seen as a stupid reaction, but I swear, I just cannot commit myself to travel to the US!!!
As a Black person from America... I agree with you wholeheartedly!!
I'm a white guy from the UK but even I wouldn't go to America because I wouldn't trust their police. I've seen too many events where innocent people (of any colour) have been terminated by their cops. It's a real shame because there are countless natural wonders I'd love to see out there. Back in the 60s one of my mothers friends was hospitalised while visiting the states because she, stupidly asked a cop what time it was. Seems the old "if you want to know the time, ask a policeman" doesn't fly there.
As a Black woman in America you are wise not to travel to the US. It is dangerous for Black women, Black men and Black children.
@@KenFullman There are about 400 million guns circulating in the US, so the police are scared sh!tless of anyone they encounter. I live here as an Asian immigrant and I have no problem with the police, as the majority of them are very professional and extremely nice. It's really the thuggish American people's behavior combined with the gun problem that really make it look like the police here are out to get you.
You could lose your life due to lethal overreaction by police. It is at best embarrassing that this is American reality. I cannot encourage you to put yourself in danger, even though I know many Americans are warm, welcoming people. I don't blame you for spending your vacation money elsewhere; it is not a stupid reaction.
As a black man in America, I have to say thank you Beau! I appreciate you speaking on this topic. I am a federal government employee, a part time faculty member, and a concealed carry permit holder here in ohio. And for some reason, I’m terrified if police get behind me. Keep up the good work bro!
Okay, you are a gun owner. And you carry your gun with you. As a European living my entire life safely without guns (can you believe it?) I would ask you this: Don't you agree that a major factor causing US law enforcers to act the way they do is the fact that every random person they have to deal with might be carrying a gun?
I would humbly suggest that it is only one factor, often not the primary one, but that it doesn't help. And the fascist right knows that & is trying to create more chaos with zero restrictions on guns. But I can understand that some folk feel the need to equip themselves to defend against baddies who carry guns -- the reaction the right wants but also a reasonable reaction, and the cycle continues...
It's refreshing that those officers were bothered by being seen as dangerous.... because as a black American.. I'm bothered that I'm seen as dangerous. As a FEMALE black American, I am deeply disturbed that I'm seen as a thief and a shoplifter.
Thank you for this!!
@@goldenretriever6261 most mass shootings are perpetrated by white males. The shootings you are speaking of used to be classified as street shootings, gang violence and drive-bys. Now they are lumped into mass shootings to water down the numbers. Either way, it's called collective guilt. God forbid something should happen to you, but if you were met with a violent crime, the perpetrator will more than likely look like you. But, we don't call it white on white crime. And we don't say the police can shoot you because you all are shooting each other. It's a bulls* narrative that America embraces. And it's nice to know, not everyone in the world is buying into it.
@@goldenretriever6261just like all school shooters are white. So all white people should be seen as dangerous and diabolical??
Well why don't you and other blacks openly and forcefully condemn the atrocious behaviour of other black Americans. This is partly your own fault.
Yes, American police are trained to *dominate* the situation. Over here (Northern Europe) they try to establish two-way communication but yet maintain some level of authority. You don't need a machine gun and 200 gizmos on your uniform to show that you're an officer. You certainly don't need to be violent or demeaning. I thought this letter from a Danish Police to be adorable.
@@goldenretriever6261 And whenever there's a mass shooting, it's a white kid.
As an American, this hurts. To those officers in another country; treat us like we are abused children.
That's exactly what it is! Abusive people who love to violate your safety you and you have to live in the same space with them.
That's because we are, abuse and exploitation have always been "merica". In fact its so "merica" that some of the american people vote in the very people who would abuse them and squeeze them dry of everything for a 1% rise in stock prices.
Because as great the people and the country are there are problems "a 10y old could figure out. so why don't they???!" from the european perspective.
Sadly accurate.
I've been traumatized by the police on numerous occasions, and I'm a white male... I can't imagine what black Americans have been through.
Well, to be fair, you are. And I mean "all" Americans. Your chosen representative of your entire nation was the oldest todler in history. And I don't think I even need to address the abused part. Or do I?
If I'd start going on about specifics, there would be no end to it. I wouldn't even know where to begin. The list of things done right is a much shorter list.
Man, he sounded so compassionate! Im glad the man and his wife had an opportunity to see how it should be.
I'm actually from Denmark and I'm curious about why an American cop think it would be appropriate and serve humanity well to lock up someone by force that lost their insulin at home. 🤷♂️
I suspect the cop would see an agitated black American, and due to the cop's frame of reference (past experiences, prejudice, risk of hidden gun, etc.), this primes them for a violent interaction, at least much more so than a European one. The risk of policing is much lower in Europe, after all
@ioanbotez7128 that's true, but also from all the encounters ive seen on the internet, American cops don't seem that willing to solve things peacefully. They use violence first and ask later many times. I mean i kind of get that if you have a black man that is completely agitated and waving his arms and is out of control that you need to take precautions for yourself as a cop as well. But still. They don't seem helpful generally, they do seem more easy to use violence. I don't think its only the American population that is more dangerous, i think the American cops is more violent too
@@ioanbotez7128 why would there be a risk of a hidden gun though? because he's black?
@@futuretimetraveller8677 because the American cop is used to working in an American environment, where guns are "slightly" more present than in Europe. If guns were legal and just as present as in the US, the EU cop would definitely be just as concerned.
@@mynameisnobody3931ahh, yt ate my reply. I'll keep this short. yup, Beau highlighted the lack of training in other videos. Then there's the cultural issues, and how cops view their job (enforcer vs public servant). However, I'd still think the root cause of so many deaths-by-cop is the overabundance of guns. The risk is much higher and time to make decisions US cops are under is much lower than an EU cop.
In the case presented in this video, the cop had time to assess the situation calmly, and analyse it. If there's a reasonable chance of one of them pulling out a gun and killing the other in 2 seconds, would the cop still behave in the same passive manner until they understood the situation?
As an American, realizing that you left your insulin at home, and NOT knowing how good the European system is, would leave you in fear for your life.
On top of that, a cop walks up.
Around here (the Netherlands) the cops would probably give you a ride to the pharmacy......(edit)... not back though,you'd have to walk😅
I am just imagining the mind blowing nature of that interaction. 'no we're not here to arrest you. Let's talk calmly about your situation. Oh insulin? Yes, well that life saving medicine is only 5 euros (maybe free?), let me take you to where you can get some. Have a splendid stay in our country!'
I know not everyone has the resources for this, but I know of African Americans and Muslims who have decided to move abroad to where they are not a minority instead of deal with the American judicial system and prejudices in their everyday life.
But why be arguing and cause people around to be alarmed? Some of us do behave badly in public.
@@pearbear319 you're obviously not married 🤪
@@pearbear319 probably pretty loud as US americans generaly tend to be a bit more on the noisy side of the spectrum :D so an "normal" argument volume is pretty much the voice level wed expect for people figthing to death soon :D
As a black person (and a woman at that) if you tell me straight forward “I’m not here to hurt you” that will help me not to have a panic attack. I have never been in legal trouble in my life but the presents of police officers takes years off of my life. Once my white friend got us into a car accident in the country side and when the police came they kept trying to claim I was driving or I was dangerous (I’m a tiny woman mind you) Lucky the young man who found and rescued us called his dad. I had never in my life been so happy to see a white man in my life. I ran to him and hid behind him and the police stopped trying to harass me after he pointedly asked them what the hell they thought they were doing scaring me like that. Thank god for kind white folk that understand the signs 😢
Am so sorry u have to be so terrified of an entity that is supposed to help EVERYONE, not just a skin tone! Yall shouldn't have to live in fear like this. It ain't right & it certainly is NOT fair, "impartial justice "! Thing is, if Obama was in the kind of trouble that Trump is, would the National reaction be different? I believe it would be. They would be screaming to have that man locked up or worse! It's definitely a double racist standard. And I for one am sick to death of it. We are ALL the members of only one race. The HUMAN race! Why is that so difficult for these racists to understand?! And honestly, even to this day, when it comes to understanding racism, am at a loss. I just don't get it! 😕
What a horrible story! I'm glad you are OK and it ended well, but this is just shameful.
My father was a black US immigrant and he figured it out real fast. He constantly got stopped and often searched even though he was a church deacon and ridiculously straight-laced. He wouldn’t even speed! He often reminded me to comply with cops. Put your hands where they can see them, do everything they tell you to, never argue, don’t make sudden moves, tell them you aren’t armed, tell them you have to reach into your purse to get your ID or glove box for the registration before you do it, etc. He passed down his fear of the police for sure. I don’t trust them not to shoot me even if I have to call them.
❤ I think you nailed it with, “we are not American police. You’re ok, you’re safe. We’d like to help you.” The simple acknowledgment that other folks understand exactly why you’d be ill at ease, the assurance of safety and the statement of their intentions would probably make me ugly cry..
I'll try to be brief.....as a black man who recently retired from a 24 year law enforcement career, I can absolutely say I agree with your suggested response. In fact I myself have had to tell people "we're not like chicago police" in order to de-escalate situations in the streets. Sometimes that statement alone was enough to get a laugh and calm the situation down. I think the biggest issue is respect. When you speak to people with respect It makes it hard for them to be agressive with you. Unfortunately most cops in this country DONT speak with respect, they speak with arrogance and ego. You cannot adequately serve the public when you think that you are "better than" them.....Ego turns conversations into confrontations and turns confrontations into deadly force encounters. Bottom line is if you cant treat people like they are your EQUAL instead of treating them like they are beneath you, Law enforcement is NOT the career for you.
Thank you sir!
Well said. Too many US cops join the police for the built-in authority it will give them over other human beings. The kind of rigid, violent authority they most likely were subjected to as children by their own abusive parents and now are able to finally enjoy over others.
I hope your excellent example rubbed off on some of your coworkers during that 24 years. That would have been a great service in addition to the excellent service you provided to your community. Enjoy your retirement!
It feels like cops in this countey attract those kids who were bullies
In New Zealand every time a gun is pulled they have to answer to hierarchy for it. Normally a weapon is not called for, but social services are especially in cases of a domestic disturbance.
I'm an old American lady living in France, and this brought tears to my eyes. Well, damn, all the cop stories do, but this is just sad. These folks have been so traumatized by stupid American police practices that they can't even take a vacation from their fear. I name that PTSD.
I name it CPTSD. It is from constant abuse, not a single indecent.
@@littlebitofhope1489 This pedantry on your behalf is abhorrent. Go out and get some empathy FFS and stop correcting people on something that is not relevant to the issue.
@@lilbrat61975 Wow, saying you are ignorant without using the word ignorant. AMAZING talent.
@@littlebitofhope1489 While I appreciate that you are trying to educate people, tone of voice doesn't translate well in text. Not everyone is familiar with the idea that complex PTSD is different from PTSD, especially those of us who grew up in times when PTSD as a diagnosis was a relatively new concept. When I grew up, having PTSD from a single incident was barely accepted unless that incident was absolutely horrific. Actually, having PTSD from a series of events (or cPTSD as it would be classed today) was only called PTSD if the series of events were all pretty horrific. So, war? Yes. Living in a state of fear because of systemic racism? Not so much. We've grown and learned, but some of us haven't caught up with our terminology yet.
I know it's difficult online, but I always try to presume that we're all just doing our best.
@@littlebitofhope1489 Constant over generations. (Epigenetics)
just wanted to say: as a diabetic (type 1, and white european, just if anyone is wondering) i know the dread you feel when you forget your insulin on a trip. this alone can make you very distraught - then add the black vs. cop situation and i can imagine how extremely scaring it must have been.
I'm a white american who grew up in Paris. I would recommend telling him "sir this is Denmark, you haven't don't anything wrong and your not in any danger. We're here to help you and sort out the problem in this public place. I dont want you to lose your dignity"
American police and their insane behavior should be openly mocked. It's sick and embarrassing.
Anyone remember the old "Keystone Cops" cartoons?
We mock them, we mock them every time we see a video. And we pity you, you are hundreds of years behind us
@@framazz7575 We're thousands of years behind the native people here.
@@heavymetalhomesteading I agree, we're behind them too
@@heavymetalhomesteading Natives aren't that old nor ancient. They are certainly not American. Most of the Native elders just now became eligible for a birth certificate in 2016. So the question is who are those people we're hailing as "indigenous"?
It's not just American cops. It's been bleeding over into Canadian police too.
Cultures in America, from brutal policing to right-wing fascism, end up coming to Canada.
It's damn annoying. So if America could get their crap together, that would be great.
Also about time.
Sad to hear. Reading through the comments I was thinking back to a couple of years (early 80's) I spent in BC (I'm American) - the few interactions I had with police always startled me in how polite, courteous and professional they were.
I'm an American and I approve this message 😉
Psst if you let me in to Canada I'll build a wall on your southern border 👍
annoying is an understatement, it's dangerous for everyone involved.
The worst racism I have faced has come from multiple interactions with Police, and I was a Warrant Officer in NYC
As a Black woman I want to say that to set us at ease just saying what you said works, “It’s okay. You’re not in trouble. We just want to help.” It is probably even better to remind us we are not in America and you are not American police. This won’t keep us from being afraid of police; it took over 100yrs of “freedom” under a Jim Crow era, but having to be afraid of police kept many of us alive. American police originally were only slave hunters. They weren’t meant to “protect and serve”. It’s going to take an equal or greater amount of time to recondition us to the idea that we are “safe”. It’s not fair to other nations to need to clean up after our American police, but it’s necessary. It took approximately 400 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow…yeah, we’re all still dealing with DEEP trauma and the best way to deal with it is to not go back to it. We’ve been told, for generations, that America is the best and because most Americans (not just Blacks) can’t even afford to see another STATE we also do not see other countries so we take the rich government officials seriously. We don’t get to see that America is NOT the WORLD; the world is a nicer place than America. Most Americans see that now, thanks to “Al Gore’s Internet” 😅, but we’re all still too poor to GO anywhere for a vacation or move. 🥹 There is nothing you can do, really, just stay calm and kind. Our hearts will SLOWLY calm down and some of us may even get a tear in our eyes…just stay “not American police” and the panic attacks will eventually pass. 🥰
I've lived in Europe as a Black American and if the cop keeps distance, SMILES and offers help from that distance would be a huge help.
My son was visiting me here in Sweden. He is very tall and has a dark complexion.
He picked me up from my office and we proceeded to drive home. After we made a turn, the police signaled for us to pull over. My son got his license out and hands up and naturally the fear was evident. The cop noticed this right away.
He immediately and simply greeted us and said "please relax, we are just checking your license". His demeanor was friendly and respectful. I asked the cop if we may ask what we had done wrong and he immediately said absolutely nothing, you are driving perfectly and explained it was just a routine check stop. They have had some issues in that area so they simply randomly stop people to ensure they have their license etc. He checked everything, and then proceeded to just have a friendly conversation with my son and learned he was visiting me. He asked how he liked Sweden and gave him some tourist tips.
After the encounter, my son had tears in his eyes. Not from fear but relief. He said "momma, I never had such a friendly encounter with the police."
OMG, I feel for your son.
This made me cry! I'm tired of being ashamed that I am an American!
@@elanapeterson3665 don't be ashamed to be American. Be ashamed of the things we need to fix. You're not responsible for where you were born but we all have a hand in the things that are wrong with this place.
That stop would be illegal in the US - pulled over for nothing, just to check your papers are in order? because 'it was a high-crime area', and 'We're just pulling over everyone to check' are often just code words for 'Looks like you're driving while black, in the wrong neighborhood' where i live.
@@Jdashn illegal yes, sadly there is little to no recourse for most people. They nearly always get away with harassment.
Thank you Beau. As black man this is a sad and emotional video. Thank u for ur care and sincerity and reminding all of us of what a better America should look like. God bless u my brother.
This was a heart breaking video. Thank you for making and posting it. Some of us need to see people who aren’t black, acknowledging what’s actually happening to us. I for one appreciate it. Thanks.
Great topic. I’m a black female Army vet with an adult black son. I fight fear and disheartening thoughts daily. Every time I see a cop pass a cop fear sets in.
I have friends who are cops and my spouse was a military police officer it still does not stop the fear. It’s just a crazy place to be in 2023.
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I cannot even begin to imagine living with that kind of fear day in and day out. Light and love to you and your family. 💜
I'm a white mom with a white 21 year old son who has Black friends. I fear for his Black friends so I can only imagine what you must go through every time your son leaves the house. ♡
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Thank you for your service
This needs to be shown in every police precinct in America. American cops have a fairly earned bad, bad reputation.
They don’t care. White supremacists have been infiltrating for decades, and the Feds knew it, but chose to do nothing.
Yes but nothing will change, their mentality is either you're with us or against us
Fairly bad reputation?
Anybody know origin of word "officer"?
It came from word "Overseer".
As in "Overseeing" slaves!
Get it now why we hv a problem with Amerikkkan cops?🤨
@@khunigan Unfortunately, that's a completely made up etymology.
The word existed in its present form in Old French, then Anglo-Norman, and then Middle English. You're talking about a word that is almost 1,000 years old that has its roots much, much earlier than that in the Latin officiarius.
@@yasukecoleman341 Their mentality isn't the problem - its the symptom. Ultimately their mentality comes from their training, and their training is rooted in politics. Specifically, the "tough on crime" ideology that both parties are forced to spout despite decades of research shows unequivocally that punitive justice is among the least effective ways to reduce crime rates.
Combine that with America's insistence on making every issue a cut-and-dry binary so that it can be neatly associated with one of their two major political parties and we run into problems. Punitive justice may be the least effective, but sometimes its the only option. You can't let a serial killer back out no matter how "reformed" they claim to be, it just doesn't work.
"Sometimes" is a critical word there though - punitive justice being the only option is the rarest case, but because everything needs to be neatly divided into two groups, you're either in the group that wants punitive justice for everything, or you're in the group that wants serial killers to run free. The US political system doesn't allow for "use the right tool for the job" thinking. You only get one tool. Take it or leave it.
Approach them as you would someone who has survived domestic violence.
There MUST be a contrasting distinction.
The European cops must say "we ARE NOT the American cops". Wait a small moment for their response and time needed to realize they are not in the 'belly of the beast'.
Then all is well and everyone can carry on the rest of the interaction as proper human beings.
Thank you for asking this question and helping us realize the possibilities.
Black American here, 1000% agree with this approach. Being near a cop, even when you haven't done anything wrong, is traumatic, and while many of us would probably still be incredibly suspicious and untrusting after this introduction, it'd at least nip the initial fight or flight, "is this cop about to harass or kill me" response in the bud...possibly, a little bit maybe. This is a hard situation to address because black Americans know it's not just American cops that will do something to us. Racism, anti-black sentiment, whatever you want to call it, is world wide, and it's better to be safe than sorry that you trusted an authority figure that doesn't view you as human.
Thank you. The point I was trying to make in my comment. It’s world wide and historic. 👍🏾✌🏽
How many people do you know that have been treated in Australia the way an American cop would treat you?
This video is about someone who genuinely believed what you claimed and found out FROM REAL EXPERIENCE that it isn't the case.
I often think about how Europeans view racism in the US while thinking it's not an issue at home. In general terms, it's a matter of degree and most need to clean up their own societies as well.
ABSOLUTELY! They will understand. Much love
Throw your hands up too and look around for the threat, then look to him for instruction on what to do next.
All he has to do is say “Aye bro this isn’t America you’re not going to die”. You’d be surprised what a relief it would be to hear that
Just ask “how can I help”. American cops love escalating situations into violence. It’s the American way it seems
I'm a white American, but I wouldnt really find that comforting. People in positions of authority often perniciously offer help to people as a means to extend the confrontation
The way European cops could set Americans at ease would be to come to America to train our pants-on-head law enforcement.
Wouldn't happen. They'd get accused of being "woke".
This.
Problem is some american cops see themselves as "warriors" against "no idea what exactly". They don't even see the problem they're having i recon.
Europeans have tried teaching American teachers on how to teach and run schools and classrooms. It hasn't stuck. Last I heard countries won't even let American Principals and such in because it's pointless. The Americans don't learn. American law enforcement are even less likely to learn anything. They couldn't even learn the importance of masking during COVID. They are, by and large, he-men that know everything and cannot get ill, contrary to the leading cause of officer deaths.
I don't think it's a training issue. I believe it's a fear issue. American society (right wing media especially) continues to reinforce the narrative that black people are dangerous, uncouth, or at least less than civil.
If you’re a Cop approaching an African-American don’t raise your voice, and start with “how can I help?”. Approach us calmly. We’re more afraid of you than you are of us. Any instance of heightened emotions makes us terrified because we know that we can be killed in seconds should the Cop “feel threatened”. Wether we’ve done something wrong or not Cops mean danger, and this has been drilled in our heads since we were kids.
This make me so sad. I'm so sorry.
"We’re more afraid of you than you are of us." just this statement is horrible, because it means they threat you like animals. Because when do we say this statement as well ? When we run into a large animal in the woods. The reason I immediately came to this conclusion is because of the statement about US prisons: "Treat people like animals and that's how they'll behave". It's so sad, because humans can talk the same language as other humans, they are not animals. With the right training most conflicts can be resolved without violence and with greatly reduced dangers for everyone involved.
I overheard that you need insulin, maybe I can help.
Goes both ways. Way to many people argue, yell, fight or try to run.
like 90% of shooting could be avoided if the person would just not be stupid.
@@nonyabisness6306 shooting could be avoided if the "COP" would just not be stupid. There, if I fixed it.
1977, the Netherlands, we were hosting a company of 6 Native Americans, for a speaking tour all over the country. I was driving, a VW van, in Gouda (yes, the town where cheese originated). And we were lost; then spotted a policeman, on a bike. So I slowed, and we rolled the passenger side down, upon which our guests fell completely silent, but for a whispered "she’s going to ask the policeman".
And of course, we got excellent directions - and a baffled group behind me: totally inconceivable that you would address the police for simple assistance. Chilling, to me it is.
I'm Norwegian, and I can understand how disturbing the reaction would be to the Danish police. Most of them choose that profession because they want to help people. Imagine how an EMT would react if someone put their hands up when they approached to help with a medical problem. I bet that's how the cop felt at that moment, because that was what he was doing: helping someone dealing with a medical problem.
And we don't call anyone "sir" or shit like that here either.
Jeez that's a brutal look at how police are in the US vs a lot of the rest of the world.
But it isn't a surprise, is it.
It isn't brutal look, it's just the truth. The cops in the US are defined by and take pride in their brutality.
This makes me so sad. I'm ashamed of how some cops in the US act, the horrible things they do. It's pathetic.
Um not most of the rest of the world pretty much the rest of the world. The police in the United States are a disgrace. They're an embarrassment. It's unacceptable for them to be this bad. I was a missionary and I have been around police in other countries. They were so much better than the police in the United States. Makes you wish more people had passports and traveled abroad.
Norway (close to Denmark) recently had a rather nasty case of police brutality.
It's almost as if US is exporting, or oppression comes with deepening issues.
Those issues will reach other places eventually, we're all just behind the US.
As a German, I think more Americans should visit Europe.
Germany admits that the Third Reich was wrong, and teaches the Holocaust as Let's Never Do That Again.
Half of the USA refuses to admit the Confederacy was wrong, and teaches the Civil War as "The South will rise again".
I have visited Munich, briefly, the large park with the Japanese garden is wonderful, and the beer was good too!
As a Dutch guy, I think American police officers should spend a month each on ride alongs with European police officers to learn about consent based policing. I also think American correctional officers need to do internships at European correctional facilities.
It might be a good eye opener for a lot of them.
@@0cypher0 fantastic idea! ❤
@@0cypher0 There was a TV show, I think from Finland, where they had a US Cop visit the Nordic countries. It was quite interesting to see. One thing that stuck out to me was the Cop asking a Swedish trainee why she joined the police force, and her reply was "I always liked people and wanted to work with people."
I'm German but live in Norway since quite a while, I've never been to the US sadly enough, only Canada for some short visits. Even though I'm a white guy I'm getting anxious at the thought to interact with a US Cop, let's say at a vacation. Over here I'm feeling at ease when I see Cops around.
We would if we could afford to! My brother was stationed in Augsburg in the late 60s. He brought home some beautiful pictures of the city and countryside. (Also a few of some beautiful young ladies.)
You hit the nail right on the head good brother
Treat black People the way you would want to be treated. Be kind..it costs you nothing ❤
It's 2023 anybody know why white supremacy has not been made illegal and punishable by life in prison for however long they survive in a all none white controlled prison, which does not exist for the obvious reason white supremacy isn't made illegal. White nazi supremacists Christians are lawmakers world leaders. Own and run all prisons in America and all stolen western colonize territories. Also in high command in the military law enforcement and the justice system and much more jobs that keep them in power and in control. World war 2 America dropped two nukes on Japan because they aren't white. And gave thousands of high command Nazi's safe haven in north America and south America. Invaded Vietnam killing and raping millions, because they aren't white. Invaded the middle east killing and raping millions because they are not white. And many pacific island's that are now colonize territories, because they are not white. Invaded Australia killing and raping millions, because they are not white. Invaded North and south America killing and raping millions, because they are not white. And many more none white countries. White supremacists can't wait to go to war with China how else are they going to continue their tradition and KILL AND RAPE MILLIONS BECAUSE THEY AREN'T WHITE. Obviously they are more brutal and violent when it comes to hurting people who aren't white. White Nazi christianity has and continues murdering and raping more humans on earth including each other, compared to any other race and religion.
I'm a melanin poor skinned male and I can recall several scenarios in my college days where the officers completely ignored me at a "rowdy party" and went straight for my melanin rich peers. It was blatant racism and it was a complete wake up to the realities of the inherent racism in our justice system. To this day, I have very little trust in the law enforcement community and I was only a bystander. I can only imagine what it's like for those who are directly impacted.
Be aware that this is changing though. Their response to "don't abuse black people" is to start abusing EVERYONE.
My brother in law is white in the winter... but as soon as one sunray hits him he gets pretty dark skinned...that would mean he's melanin rich ,right?
Another name that I really love is from Jane Elliot, the antiracist former teacher. She hangs out alot with Roland Martin. She has a name for us white folks. MELANEMIC! 😆 And she is absolutely right. It ain't POC that have the problem. It's us MELANEMICS! It truly is a disease! 🤣
@@hideouspatje and, my husband, as well. He says that his dark brown eyes help protect him from sunlight, but he does use tinted glasses.
@@rachelkristine4669: Melanin is not something whose main presence is in the blood, though, so -emia doesn't quite apply.
This makes me really sad. My brother used to be a cop and had to quit, because he hated who he was becoming. Our cowboy mentality is making our country a global laughing stock.
I don't think the rest of the world is laughing at us. I think the civil demoracies at least are concerned, saddened, and horrified at the direction we are heading. .
You are both right. Comical and saddening, a little terrifying for what is to come.
Your brother was a good cop. And that's why he quit. I'm sorry he had to quit, I'm sorry he couldn't keep being a good cop... but that's the way it is, and that's sad. I hope he still finds ways to help his community.
@@dax5791 He's a pediatric nurse now. He loves his job.
I have no idea why I didn't see this video before, and with everything going on in Gaza, still that interaction made me cry 😢
400 years of very bad press is tough to overcome. Not to mention horrible history of slavery and racist laws created by the highest forms of government.
Beau, your suggestions are on point 100%.
Tell them no one's in trouble and you're not an American cop.
"No one's in trouble," is my go to opening phrase for correcting bad behavior at work.
Those cops might make a life long friend.
@@NWPaul72 unfortunately, these same words are often the opening lines used by LE before trying to elicit a confession through interrogation.
Nobody is in trouble (at the moment, but give us enough time and that will change). I would suggest saying simply: you are safe here.
But also, after saying that, don't immediately demand an ID.
@@cproteus Fantastic response! Start with that!
I remember when I was naive enough to call the cops when my apartment was robbed and my stereo system stolen ON MY BIRTHDAY.
I don’t know what I was expecting to happen. Why did I think that they would dust for fingerprints or at least make a report?
Nope! They questioned me like I was a suspect. Where did I work? How did I get a stereo? They even accused me of stealing my own stereo!
It was bad. All I could do was cry when they left. I thought that being robbed was the worst thing that could happen that day. I was wrong. They treated me like a stray dog.
Another time, they threw my blind nephew on the ground with guns pointed at him for being young and Black. Of course he didn’t know what was happening and couldn’t see the guns pointed at him. One wrong move and he would be dead. Thank goodness for the neighbor screaming that he was blind. All they saw was prey.
Even if I was in danger, I’d have to think THRICE before calling them because you never know what kind of cop will show up.
The trauma is REAL.
I'm so sorry... Your post speaks volumes to what "white privilige" is about. It isn't easy to admit it. We whites are presumed innocent, even when we aren't, whereeas for black people it's the opposite. For a white person It is all too darn easy to pretend race isn't really such a big thing, until we hear stories liike yours and your nephew's. Thank you so much for sharing these painful truths. You are so strong and you are a beautiful human being. Black Lives Matter.
@@photonjones5908 Thank you. It’s constant stress and worry for me. I worry about my daughter more than myself.
I’m always worried about this so called civil war that these crazies keep talking about.
I feel like i have a target on my back because if they come for us, i don’t trust that there will be anyone to call for help. I really don’t.
Great video! Beau, you're one of the really good guys - someone who is more interested in calming things down than jacking them up. I subscribed as soon as I watched one of your videos because you adhere to non-violent communication. I wish more people were lke you.
This needs to be a National Forum,Deesculate,pursue the true criminal regardless of who they are,don’t overreact ❤️❤️❤️❤️
They have been trained to de-escalate, and I’m seen them use it, but that’s NOT used when they’re dealing with Blacks. And they can’t say, Black men are more violent, because they have been caught on camera brutalizing Black women also, and they can’t say, they’re afraid for their lives when dealing with a Black woman, but they will take an opportunity to beat a Black woman, which has been captured on TH-cam several times!😢
I love this on several levels. One, "We're not like American cops" is absolutely true and it points out that most other first-world countries are not like ours when it comes to policing or the way that police are viewed. "How can we help?" is a sentence that I can't imagine hearing from any police officers in our great Land of Freedom. I'm a 74 year old, college educated, white male and I've never heard it. On the other hand, I've been abused by police on many occasions. It's not that we don't have good cops. We do. But we also have a thoroughly broken police culture that is reinforced by adversarial cadet training, opaque operations, and zero effective oversight - all of which are a perfect prescription for abusive behavior.
a couple of years ago I saw a video on TH-cam of a cop Trainer talking to a room full of cops describing how "killing someone in line of duty you makes sex with your wife better".
I'm not able to find the video now but it actually made me wretch. every American should be horrified by this.
I've also seen several videos of ex-cops who quit the force because of the culture. apparently it dashed their dream so badly they just couldn't do it any more.
none of this will change until we the people change our attitudes about policing in general and start electing people that will support our views.
It's pointless talking about good cops and bad cops; we have a broken system of law enforcement. If we want better policing, we need to fix that.
very well stated
Your police system is the result of your politics.
Unfortunately, if you watch all the cop watch, 1st amendment auditor and body cam videos, on TH-cam, it is not uncommon for US cops to start the conversation with a claim that they are there to help, immediately followed with a demand for ID.
The collective mass trauma that this represents is just heartbreaking.
It's appreciated that they didn't jump to conclusions about these people. They took their time to listen, and find out what's going on. That's something to start with right there....
What needs to happen, a change in American Policing. That means calling out the Corrupt Cops and locking them up!
They protect each other in the FOP. They are the bad apple pension union….
Or banning them form ever serving in any kind of civil protective service.
The same people who will tell you the gubment is inherently bad will also demand American police need no third-party oversight at all.
The right wing in America is so cancerous and we need to stop pretending they haven't just utterly effed America with their broken culture and values.
Even as a white male from Europe, American cops scare me. Or at least the border guards that I have interacted with. They seem so stressed and look like they are geared up for war.
Oh yeah, they give everyone that treatment, citizens included. As though if they act tough and rude enough they'll catch a real live terrorist, sort of like a heavily armed cargo cult.
Your perception is accurate. If you would like to know the history of them being "geared for war", start with reading the account of the 1980 Norco Bank Robbers. The police were vastly outgunned, and have used that robbery, starting then and continuing to the present day, to become more and more militaristic, up to and including buying actual military assault vehicles. And remember, they will make it sound like THEY are the victims. And notice something in the accounts of the Bank Robbery. The Actual Victims in the bank are rarely if ever mentioned. I think there is a recent NPR documentary who interviewed one, but they were inaccurate. The only one they usually interview is the owner of the van. This is about the police being afraid. It is NOT about protecting citizens in any way, shape or form. It took them 33 years to even think about the people who worked in the bank, and their contact was just as close or closer to the Robbers and they were threatened with death also. But not one thought is ever given to them. It is all about the need for more and bigger weapons for the Police.
"Stress and War" should be the national motto.
It might be because of all the guns in people's hands. Yet cops are OK with gun laws as they are. It makes no sense.
Hell, even as a white male from Tennessee, American cops scare me. I just moved back after 12 years in Abu Dhabi, and I felt much safter there, because I was safe from the police.
I am black, and a senior citizen, retired military, been all over the world…it is so scary when your color is considered a weapon, often times you have to prove you have the right to live and exist in America, and so often you have no idea how someone else is thinking about you at that scary moment, especially an authoritarian figure , and then move that scenario to a foreign country. I like the approach of hey, it’s all cool, we want to help, what can we do?
Black American here: if they're not suspected of anything or they're not in any trouble, make sure they know that as quickly and clearly as possible.
Beau, I think both your suggestions were on point. "How can we help. This is not America, no need to panic, no one is in trouble. You don't need to put your hands up, we just want to help. We are not America cops.
I'm Canadian , was visiting New Brunswick, eating in the food park of a mall, asked the couple next to me (in their 30s, black, man and wife, 2 kids about 15 years old) if they knew where a bookshop was.
They told me no, because, they were visiting from New Jersey. Aah, visiting relatives, friends? I asked.
Their answer to me was, "no, we come here for a weekend every month so the kids can see what's normal."
Even 15 years later I vividly remember that. Must be hell for them south of the border.
I'm a Black man in the U.S. No surprises, here.
Wow. Well Canadian here as well, but hailing from Toronto area. I live abroad now and everytime I visit in the recent years I have noticed a shift. More and more off and less welcoming and friendly even outside the city. Also the bigoted seem louder than before. Kinda feels like the politics of US is pulling down Canada as well. My observation is purely anecdotal of course. Could also just be the after effects of covid.
@Maxwell No, it's always been in Canada. People just ignored it. Canada is a former slave colony just like the US.
it ranges from 'hell' to corrosive exhaustion...
@@babagalacticus Stop the CAP.