Tree Fern Fiber: a promising "new" medium to grow your orchids

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  • @OrchidboyTroy
    @OrchidboyTroy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Olivier, my bag of tree fern fiber just arrived! I’m really excited to try this in my environment and see what results I can achieve. I haven’t stopped researching tree fern fiber since you posted this video. Thank you for again, pointing me in the right direction! Quick side note- my amethystoglossa is taking quite well to her mount and I did not lose my orchid 🙌🏾

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fantastic! Very happy to hear this!

    • @nurmalasinaga1734
      @nurmalasinaga1734 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Terlalu bnyk kata 2 jadi membosan kan .

  • @david020218
    @david020218 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My paphiopedilums are doing extremely well in it far better than any other medium I've used

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great! Thank you for the feedback

  • @newmanmansell760
    @newmanmansell760 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's wonderful😊🙏💖I can see the orchid roots are clean, white and healthy

  • @grahamramsey7255
    @grahamramsey7255 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very well done video! This is a great demonstration of tree fern fiber doing what it does so well.

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are the reason I started using it. Great article in AOS October 2020. We'll see you at the Fort Lauderdale Orchid Show in January 2024!

  • @chris10858
    @chris10858 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi, thank you for creating these really great vids! A few months ago, I switched out all of my phals to an ABG mix, which has tree fern fiber as a main ingredient. They seem to be doing great. Perhaps you could give us a [video] update to let us know what you found with those orchids you placed in tree fern fiber? I'm in the Orlando area and reticent to place cats, dens, and otehr orchids in the fiber due to the summer rains perhaps keeping everything too wet. Thanks again for the great videos! Thanks also to the cameraman for the great job recording everything!

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you! I can confirm my wild enthusiasm for the tree fern fiber. Not all the plants on the video have performed super well (none has died) but I have so many more in tree fern fiber and they are doing really well overall. Mormodes and Cycnoches are thriving! So are a few Stanhopeas. I will try and remake a video with the same plants.

    • @chris10858
      @chris10858 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @orchidhouse that's great to hear, and thank you again for the very informative and entertaining videos. My husband and I hope to be able to move back to ft lauderdale within the next year. My orchids always did better down there than here in Orlando.

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My pleasure!
      By the way I am a local realtor specialized in Ft Lauderdale and I would love to help you find the perfect home for your orchids.... I kind of know what you would need for them LOL.
      Contact me when the time is right: 954-591-1487 or OlivierFTL@gmail.com
      My husband is the cameraman by the way....@@chris10858

  • @grounded_by_plants
    @grounded_by_plants ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video and examples of genera that could benefit from tree fern fiber substrate. I've been using this substrate for about a year with great results in my Paphs., Phrags and Oncidium

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      So we are in agreement then!
      I am very excited and convinced this will be a great medium long term but as always...proof is in the pudding right...

  • @WanderingBobAK
    @WanderingBobAK ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for the info. Will be interesting to see how your plants respond over a long term period.

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will give an update down the road when relevant

  • @PaulDeRossiAustralia
    @PaulDeRossiAustralia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve just repotted a lot of my orchids in tree fern fiber. Strange that there isn’t much on line about it. Early days for me but the roots seem to love it. I look forward ton your update

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you are an AOS (American Orchid Society) member, the October 2020 magazine on page 774 explains everything you need to know about tree fern fiber.

  • @alexandragc6817
    @alexandragc6817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Olivier ! Great video !

  • @plips71755
    @plips71755 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Graham, are you using Fernwood located in New Zealand’s soft tree fern product? I use the boards for mounts.

  • @gerardvalentini5300
    @gerardvalentini5300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much for these videos. I have been growing for 30 years and I am still learning so much from you. Would you please share where you get your wood for mounting and the cable system you use to make hangers. Thank you ! Gerard

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a very nice compliment Gerard! Thank you!
      I used to buy the wood from a local couple "Nature's relics"; they bought recycled cypress wood from Central Florida, cleaned it, shaped it, polished it and sold it. They provided the cable
      as well. They retired one year ago and nobody has taken over....
      A local grower -Mac's orchids- does buy cool wood pieces from Louisiana but he does not treat it or provide the cable to hang but he carries cool stuff.

  • @katiagassarino8823
    @katiagassarino8823 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Je confirme que les orchidées adorent! J’ai 2 tolumnias tendance « grimpante »: elles n’ont jamais voulu s’accrocher sur quoi que ce soit, jusqu’à ce que je trouve des morceaux de fougère arborescente. Depuis qu’elles sont posées dessus, c’est production de racines en série, elles se sont ancrées sur le support. Le plus difficile reste de trouver ces morceaux de tronc; ici en Nouvelle-Calédonie, c’est une espèce protégée.

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      Amitiés à la Nouvelle Calédonie! Un de mes amis belges est parti vivre chez vous il y a 20 ans.

  • @carolstuff
    @carolstuff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve used tree fern fiber on my difficult aroid plants, but since I only have one orchid (Stanhopea Florida), it’s good to know that orchids like it also…for the future. Thanks for sharing!

  • @judyperkins4509
    @judyperkins4509 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thankyou Did u add anything to the fibre ?

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't add anything

  • @Muffin21814
    @Muffin21814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Oliver, Have you watched Stephen Van Kampen Lewis recent video with Francisco Miranda??? I learned alot on mormodes and why some of mine were dying. They grow alittle differently from catasetums. Sorry if you have already watched it. Again I am behind 😊👍

  • @plips71755
    @plips71755 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I suggest a less expensive society which is St. Augustine Orchid Society, most of the care articles, and the more up to date are written by members of this group. They have great speakers. If you don’t live local, membership is like $7, regular membership is $20. I’m hoping at some point they will post video of their events but their site is so good I gladly support them at the $20. Very friendly and helpful if you have problems.

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree that St Augustine Orchid Society is awesome and Sue Bottom is extremely knowledgeable about pests and diseases. I have emailed her a few times and she always answers.
      This does not preclude people from also joining the American Orchid Society which is indeed more expensive but a totally different dimensions. It has 100 years of research and articles available and Ron McHatton's webinars are great and he is an encyclopedia when it comes to orchids.
      The more varied sources, the better :)

  • @ashwilliams779
    @ashwilliams779 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Salut Olivier j en utilise en plaque ou en bûchettes pour toutes mes orchidees...panier ou plaques exclusivement depuis 3 ans ..Le xaxim c est absolument génial vanda phalaenopsis gongora laelia cattleya schum stanhopea je n ai depuis plus aucune perte...bonus visuel au bout de quelques temps mousse et fougères s installent. Bilan très favorable pour l instant et adieu le rempotage

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      Heureux d'entendre ce feedback enthousiaste. Cela me comforte dans mon choix :) Merci Gaby!

  • @plips71755
    @plips71755 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And have you grown any cattleyas for 6 months or more in tree fern?

  • @orquideasrv2346
    @orquideasrv2346 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Estou adorando.
    Tudo muito lindo 😍.

  • @cbr6f238
    @cbr6f238 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thanks. Did you make the media with loose tree fern? I do not have access to the article you referenced.

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Yes it is loose tree fern (fibers).
      I believe you need to be an AOS member to get access. It is $60 per year (I think) but money well spent as you get access to tons of information on orchids from a highly respected source.

  • @genizi
    @genizi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tried using tree fern fiber on my phals but they died. Maybe I watered too much. How often do you water phals in tree fern. My phals are kept outside and I lived in North miami south Florida. Thanks.

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would not use tree fern on Phals but it should work nevertheless.
      I grow my Phals on the dry side. I always let them dry out in between watering.

  • @Unkn0wn1133
    @Unkn0wn1133 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In like 2014 I was trying to find tree fern fiber for my orchids because I read it was good, but couldnt find it anywhere.

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      Where do you live? It is available now.

  • @marygorchidsmore2058
    @marygorchidsmore2058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, very exciting new media. I'm having trouble with oncidiums and over watering . I will give it a go. Thanks for sharing. Do you mix it with perlite?

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I added perlite on a couple of orchids but it is not necessary. Apparently it can also be detrimental as it may reduce the wicker effect from the fiber? So I use fiber only from now on. Good luck! Oncidiums are a great target for this medium

  • @TuoInside
    @TuoInside ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you ever tried leca with catasetinae? I’m trying one currently with leca in PET, curious to see how it does.

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have not. I am very happy with how my Catasetums are doing but Cycnoches and Mormodes remain a challenge but I have reduced the watering on those with good results. I am hoping tree fern fiber will be an extra help.
      Keep me posted on your leca experience.

  • @plips71755
    @plips71755 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Actually it’s not true that every bulletin is on there. I was paying what the $79, probably higher now membership fee, but there is like a 10 year period missing. And before I left, I looked again and found some more missing. They told me they were moving the issues from storage I believe maybe Illinois to Florida to their headquarters. Seemed strange to me to move their back issues to somewhere subject to most tornados, hurricanes, flooding, etc. but what do I know, they said and this was several years ago that they had some super duper storage vault??? But adding these issues back has not happened.

    • @yolyrom7233
      @yolyrom7233 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, that’s messed up

  • @lawrencerobison1873
    @lawrencerobison1873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your many informative videos. I've watched them all over the past few years. I live in Melbourne Florida. Where do buy your tree fern fiber? Did you make or buy the step plant stand behind you?

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for being such a great fan!
      I bought the tree fern fiber at "Green Barn" which is an orchid supply store in Delray Beach.
      Graham Ramsey who wrote the AOS article in October 2020 also did a presentation at Ft Lauderdale Orchid Society a few months back and sold a bunch but I believe he only does wholesale? He is scheduled to come sell at our Fort Lauderdale Orchid Show on 1/6 and 1/7/24 if you are interested. His stuff is the best.
      The wooden stands (there are two similar ones side-by-side) are from an art shop in my area

  • @HelenColonques
    @HelenColonques หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As Always, another great video Olivier so many thanks. Are you or any of your subscribers using Fern Tree Fibre for Cattleyas in pots? I am about to repot a (gifted) Cattley Bowringiana Var. Coerulea which is currently in a kind of Terrestial mix. Currently the plant is doing well and is rather large. Clearly the mix it is in currently is agreeable to the orchid, however, I want to grow this into a specimen plant and as I have Fern Tree Fibre already, I would like to get your thoughts on using that for this incredible Orchid. Many thanks in advance, Helen, Sydney Australia

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Helen! Thank you for your kind words and warm greetings to my Australian friends :))
      Even if a terrestrial mix sounds a bit "off", my advice would be to keep it as is. When you repot a plant, it is like a person moving to a new home: it is stressful, you need to adjust to changes etc...
      For an orchid, when you change the type of medium it grows in, you add an extra layer of stress as the roots need to adjust to a new environment, especially when it comes to moisture retention.
      So if your orchid currently grows well and is happy, just keep the same medium as repotting in itself is stressful enough.
      Please remember that bifoliate Cattleyas (bowringiana is now called Guarianthe rather than Cattleya but that is semantics: it is a Central American Cattleya basically) are very sensitive to repot timing. You should only repot if you currently have active new root growth... and don't damage the new roots.
      Best of luck with your beautiful plant.
      Olivier

    • @HelenColonques
      @HelenColonques หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@orchidhouse Thanks so much for the advice Olivier. It certainly is a beautiful orchid and the fragrance is just out of this world. Kind regards, Helen

  • @angelbass5053
    @angelbass5053 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where are you buying tree fern from? Is it available on the regular?

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      A local Orchid supply store called "Green Barn" in Delray Beach. Graham Ramsey himself (the guy who wrote the article) will come to the Fort Lauderdale Orchid Show on 1/6 and 1/7/24 and sell his best product.

  • @TOEKIEWORLDMarc
    @TOEKIEWORLDMarc ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tree fern fiber is not a new growing medium. I've been using it for over 35 years. There has been a time where it wasn't available, due to over collecting. It's a good medium for moisture loving plants. It does however desintegrate after 4 to 6 years, specially the finer grade.
    There is a good reason why the Sedirea doesn't flower for you. It needs a cold, cooling down period of minimum 6 weeks to 3 months to trigger it to bloom. So if it doesn't get that, you won' see flowers. Cooling it down in Florida might be a problem. I grow mine sheltered, outside here in Northern Belgium and it flowers early to late spring.

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ik neem aan dat u Nederlands spreekt? Ik ben een Franstalige Belg die ondertussen al twintig jaren in Florida leeft! Ik zal voorts in het Engels antwoorden zodat iedereen ons kan begrijpen.
      I am aware that the Sedirea needs cooling to bloom and that is why I put it in a cooler at night for a month or so in the winter with no results. May be I need to do it longer? Watering it, is also an issue though, at least in my experience, and the tree fern seems to work on it.
      Tree fern fiber is indeed not new which is why I had put "new" between brackets but it seems that it has been unavailable for quite some time (at least in the US) and most people I talk to are totally unaware of it. But you are correct, it has been around for a long time. It is now available here in South Florida and it is a happy discovery for me.
      Good to know about the need to repot after 4 to 6 years. Thank you! That is still better than most media.
      Can you please elaborate on your own experience with it? What do you use it on? You seem to favor moisture loving plant while I am trying to satisfy plants that mostly need to dry out between watering but still need proper hydration when watered. I guess those two are not incompatible but I would love to hear what you like about tree fern fiber and what you use it on.
      Thanks for tuning in and happy to hear from a fellow Belgian! Goede avond ondertussen!

    • @ashwilliams779
      @ashwilliams779 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Je me permets de te répondre dans cette discussion les orchidees qui se plaisent le plus sont celles que je cultive en tronc ou demi tronc de fougère arborescente notamment laelia rhyncholaelia schomburgkia et cattleya (panier+tronc xaxim)

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      Super ! Merci!@@ashwilliams779

    • @TOEKIEWORLDMarc
      @TOEKIEWORLDMarc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ashwilliams779 I've got several orchids on xaxim trunks; my Sarcochilus species, Cattleya walkeriana and nobilior and a few others. They do great on it.

    • @TOEKIEWORLDMarc
      @TOEKIEWORLDMarc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@orchidhouse Yep, I'm from Antwerp, so "Nederlands" but also French, English, German and some Spanish and Italian.
      What I like about tree fern or xaxim, is mainly that it holds water very well but doesn't get soggy. I use trunks, plates and fibre.
      The fibre I use in my Paphiopedilum mix, specially the smaller species like runsuryanum, helenae and canhii. Mounted on trunks I grow Cattleya walkeriana, nobilior, Sarcochilus species, Some Dendrobium, like victoria-reginae but also some warmer Dendrobium.
      The fibre disintegrative faster than the trunks and plates because it is shopped down.
      Tree fern was re-introduced into the hobby by the Australian exporters of orchiata bark and their New Zealand spagnum and is grown commercially for this purpose only.
      As for the Sedirea, temperatures need to be cool day & night. also reduced daylength is important for them.
      Hope this helps.

  • @patsfreund9164
    @patsfreund9164 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another informative video. Do you find this medium to be more expensive than others?

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      Somewhat but nothing to break the bank. Sphagnum moss has become very expensive too and so has orchiata. So all in all, not a big difference.

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you come to our Fort Lauderdale Orchid Show on 1/6 and 1/7/24, Graham Ramsey is scheduled to sell his product at the show.

  • @rosanaterra4504
    @rosanaterra4504 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi where did you buy it tree fern Bieber pleases???

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At a local Orchid supply store in South Florida

  • @plips71755
    @plips71755 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s going on with the roots been brownish… is that heat issue or a something else. Roots I would think would be quite white with green tips but I’m seeing that. You said you only water every 10 days. That seems a long time I would think it would dry out. Of course you guys have a lot more humidity but that would seem to mean lots of root tips and white roots when dry. I haven’t tried this tree fern.

    • @orchidhouse
      @orchidhouse  ปีที่แล้ว

      I assume you are talking about the Gongora? All the plants I showed are watered every day or every other day or whenever the fiber is dry. The Gongora is overpotted which is evidenced by the fact that it takes 7 to 10 days for the fiber to be near dry. Not sure why some of the roots are brown but except the 2 rescued plants, all the ones I showed have healthy root growth. Many had just been watered and the roots look yellow but when they dry out they are white. All these plants seem to thrive. I shared my enthusiasm for what I consider a very good medium whose top quality seems to be that it does not get soggy. You don't have to share my opinion obviously...