Hello, I missed your comments! She does love it! I do love her getting into it, she is the only one of my kids who is even remotely interested yet! She is adorable, except when she messes with my things and she is not home so I can't ask her where she put it!!🤣🤣
Cool alternative! And sphagnum moss is actually very renewable and sustainable. It grows on top of peat bogs and only takes about 5 years to reproduce. The peat moss that grows underneath sphagnum moss is the one that takes thousands of years and should not be harvested for houseplants. Sphagnum moss =/= peat moss
Thank you! I agree 100% about Sphagnum moss, it is not to be confused with peat moss. Have you seen my earlier video about why using moss is not such a hot idea? I talk a bit about that and the other reasons why moss is, to put it mildly, annoying. 👉 th-cam.com/video/d4GM7cn8BME/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much, I don’t do well with moss poles and have been looking for a good alternative with little luck. I ordered two pre made fern fiber after watching this, I’m so excited!
Hi precious, before i move my plants on pole , I use my aquarium filter sponge , the white one ☝🏾 like cotton, just tied it right under the plant node , just to keep water and heat on this spot , roots will pop out rapidly. I’ve tested it on : philodendron/ mayoi, florida, monstera Peru and his look alike … all those plants are in wood / leca/ perlite + soil hyper chunky so I can water as much I want . My fertiliser is obviously aquariums filter dirty water 😅.
Hey Queen, that was interesting. I love the color of the tree fern fiber. Can’t wait to see the results. I think I will try it. Thanks again Queen 👸🏾 ❤️❤️😊🌸🌿🌼
I am going to try this! I actually really like the look of it. Weird to say but it looks more sophisticated! Also the little bit of pink on your White Princess is so cute!
Tree fern fibre is also used as a substrate for certain reptiles/amphibians; worth checking exotic pet shops to see if they carry it or if they can get some in for you! 😃
👉 Watch this video to understand why I am looking to move away from using Sphagnum moss for my poles th-cam.com/video/d4GM7cn8BME/w-d-xo.html 👉 Buy Tree Fern Fibre here: geni.us/BMVAP (Amazon Affiliate Link) 👉 Watch this video to see how the Tree Fern Fibre I use is harvested th-cam.com/video/yqlVHu8oYlo/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for watching and commenting. I will certainly give an update. I bought a big bag of fibre so will be making a few more poles as soon as I get the chance.
Love the idea and curious to see how this works in the long run. I have an actual tree fern growing in doors in perlite and I’m actually experiencing fungus gnats inside the trunk of the plant itself, as I have to keep the trunk moist at all times. I hope it doesn’t happen for you but definitely something to look out for given the similar conditions.
this was great....always fun to learn something new.....i agree, the dark color really show cases the leaves. I hope you can keep us posted on this new process...if the fibre holds moisture, i wonder if it will develop any algae.
It's a great substrate, and I used it for some orchids in the past, but ended up switching to sphagnum moss in the end for environmental reasons really. Be interesting to see how it does as a pole though. People should be mindful that when buying tree fern fiber, to try to get ones from New Zealand, as those from South America and parts of Asia are not always ethically harvested and there was little regulation as to where it was being sourced (sadly, many were cut down in rain forests, etc). Also be mindful that tree ferns do grow slowly - unlike moss which can have a turn around of a few years - so more people using it could result in pressure on the market which can have disastrous effects.
@@TheLecaQueen Tree fern fiber is a terrific substrate and growing medium and it is being used (again) a lot more now in plant culture, particularly in orchid culture (I grow species orchids as well as too many plants requiring moss poles - according to my husband at any rate lol). Decades ago, orchids were widely grown in tree fern fiber, as were a lot of plants that we'd buy in nurseries. Unfortunately, high demand meant that a lot of species of ferns in the America's and Asia are now endangered, as they would be cut down from native forests to meet market demand, so a lot of people switched to moss instead of the fiber. As with most things, we should be mindful of where we source our material. I don't use tree fern fiber any longer and haven't for over a decade now. How it's sourced in NZ for the most part is from private land where some wish to clear or remove vegetation and most of the time, they will use a helicopter to lift them out once they are cut down, much like they do with sphagnum moss to reduce damage to the land with heavy machinery. As I've noted, it is a terrific substrate and I'd rate it as one of the best as it takes a long time to break down. So I am very interested in how it will work for you as an alternative to moss poles! I hear you about how fast sphagnum moss dries out and I live in QLD, so it can often dry out within a few days - I'm now converting those poles to plastic backed ones to reduce how fast it dries. I stopped spraying them with a water bottle and not just take them outside or to the shower and give them a quick shower once every couple of weeks. Saved my sanity.
@@Mooky941 I've been late to the moss pole game as I have few of these climbing plants (and only a few orchids). Your comment is insightful, includes great tips, and is very educational to this science-minded, environmentalist. Thank you and hats off to you! ☮️🌱💛💚
What about coconut coir? I’ve seen it recommended as a potting alternative for spag, but have never personally used it. Anyone have any idea how it would do in a pole?
Nora what do you think about using Compressed coconut fiber expandable substrate in place of the tree fern fiber? I can get my hands on that much quicker and cheaper than the the other
I have actually. I made a rockwool pole but could not get the pH neutral enough to use for my plants in leca. The rockwool was changing the pH of my reservoir too much I gave up on it.
Great content! I am thinking of making a pole with the tree fern fiber against the solid backing of the plastic pole, and coco chunks on top of that. This might help contain the tree fern fiber if it dries and is somehow tapped about accidently.
Not at all similar to peat moss. This is made out of trees unlike peat moss which is harvested from peat bogs and has more of a detrimental environmental impact when harvested.
@The Leca Queen wow !!! did not know that about peat moss. I'm happy I switched out that medium for my plant lol thanks ! I guess I'll just toss it I wasn't sure if I could reuse it for anything 💚
Can you please do an update once the pole has gone dry? I’m intrigued if it will be messy and lose again, I have a dog so if it gets knocked then it won’t stay in 🤣
Tree fern fibre is amazing, but it's much more expensive than sphagnum moss (at least where I live) and to create a few 24¨ high poles I don't even want to know how much I'd need of it and how much it'd cost in total 😅
Hi 🙂 l was just wondering if you knew if it was the NZ Forestry Service that said this is sustainable and renewable or NZ Ecologists ? Tree ferns grow at the rate of one inch per year, here and in NZ. Legally, they can only be cleared from private land after tagging, and from corporate bought indigenous bush land, for the timber and paper suppliers. I am not sure how Ecologists would of said this is sustainable, or even renewable considering at their rate of growth. Sphagnum moss can be fully renewed within three to five years. If people are dead set on using Tree Ferns they should probably find their nearest nursery and buy the tagged stumps (white official tags), if they're lucky they may be able to buy them for $30 per foot, but chances are they'll be around the $50/$60 mark per foot. Quick note : if you find something growing on your TFF that looks similar to Liver Wort, just leave it because you've got active spores. 👍 Also, for anyone that may be thinking about harvesting them from indigenous bushlands, the fines are incredible and there can be jail time involved. Rangers are always out and they will catch you.
Could you also use some sort or easy break netting that roots could break or grow thru and would also keep the TFF from falling thru too ? Isn’t TFF expensive though? But I think it has much better nutritional values though. If you just said that as I was typing… your our Queen for a reason!
I can see that. And that is why I like making poles instead of buying them, one can make them exactly the way they want. I hope you try it. I would love to know how you go.
@@TheLecaQueen it's an honor to see your response. You're one of my favorites. That's a great point you made. I have a philodendron burgundy princess I'd like to try it on.
Tree fern fiber is wayyy too expensive for anyone in North American tho. I know it’s expensive here in Canada. Good idea for anyone who has it affordable though.
Sphagnum moss is renewable, not like peat moss. Tree Fern Fiber is 4 times the price of Sphagnum in the US, not sure about other Countries. I’m sure it works great. 💚 Love that it’s not hydrophobic.
This sounds really interesting, but not highly available in Europe. :( The only supplier seems to be 'Fernwood' and one 10L bag costs over 20 Euro/Dollars. IdK how long 10l will last when you put it in a pole. Only vendors I found so far are located in the Netherlands or in the UK, so you can add around 15 for shipping I guess. In the US it seems to be half the price. :)
Hello, it is hard to do individual updates due to the nature of TH-cam. I do show the plants in other videos like Q&As. The pole is ok but I had to chop the plant because it was not growing well because of lack of light.
I use the Fernwood New Zealand brand. I use this one because they explain how and where they source their fibre. I recommend researching the company before you buy the product.
How long does it take to grow a tree fern for harvest? I thought they were slow growers. I heard they grow 50 millimeters or 5 centimeters a year at most. I think harvesting kills them .
I think they harvest the trees when they are about 10 years old. The one I buy says they harvest from sustainable private forests and not randomly chopping down trees. Check out their video 👉 th-cam.com/video/yqlVHu8oYlo/w-d-xo.html
Here in the US, tree fern fiber is SO much more expensive than sphagnum moss and so I can’t let enough go to make an entire pole. I’d love to if I can find it cheaper.
Leca queen your microphone is faulty. It's like a buzzing high pitched sound when your speaking (mic on) but when it's sped up between cuts it goes away so it's deffo not the music track. If it's wireless it could be picking something up like a router / mobile phone / light fitting it's almost similar to the interference that flourecent tube lights emit or a power supply / charger
Thanks for that comment. I did realise that during the edit but unfortunately with my meagre sound skills could not make it any better. Probably means a new microphone for me. Sorry about that. I had hoped it would not be too obvious.
I have 3 gorgeous real human babies that keep me way more busy than the plants ever could! 15 year old son, and 13 and 7 year old girls. I love them to bits!
@@TheLecaQueen I bet you're the coolest mum in the neighbourhood. Cool hair, a thriving TH-cam channel, making time for them and whatnot. I wish you and your family all the joy!
I'm so curious how you made out! I'm thinking of trying Lee from Kill This Plant's PVC pipe moss pole design but I'm uncertain how that would work with the Tree Fern Fibre since it's so loose and airy. How did you you find it as it dried?
I know why you think that, however, leca is notorious for drying pretty quickly. Unless I want to use pumps to meek the leca moist, a leca pole just does not work, I have tried! Even using a wick does not work.
hey nora :) i want to give tree fern fiber a go. Can you roughly say what amount you used on that pole? I am wondering how long 5l/10l will last. And how is the pole doing so far?
nah! i use cocochips instead of the pricey sphag moss and been doing it for years and my plants are growing fine. I even wrap my poles with grafting tape to contain moisture as i have low humidity in my area. Plants are fine and leaves are bigger and taller. I hope these tree fern fibers are grown from a farm and not stolen from the mountains in tropical countries. They use to steal that from the mountains and chop both ends and turn it upside down and plant orchids in asia.
You have to stop and think where this tree fern moss comes from. Swathes of diminishing rainforest! The idea of our beautiful tree ferns being pushed through a shredder brings me to screaming tears. Please DON'T use this until you know its not from the ever decreasing Queensland rainforests. I beg you..... DON'T!!!! 😭🙏
Hello Patricia, I definitely encourage you to stay on the right side of the law and use what is legally available for you to use. Using Tree Fern Fibre is not illegal here and is available for use. Thank you for sharing this information. 🙂
I encourage people to use what is legally available. If Tree Fern Fibre is illegal or not available one can use other media in the poles such as coco chips, moss, potting mix and many others. Check out the link I have provided in the pinned comment above that shows how the tree fern fibre I use is ethically sourced and harvested from private forests.
Just be careful because tree fern fiber is not that sustainable. It takes a lot of time to grow tree ferns where that is from. As long as the seller makes it sustainable, it should be good.
They're cutting down trees so you can have tree fern fiber how is that sustainable that makes no sense what that is is the beautiful bottoms of gorgeous forests that they chopped up shame on everybody
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I can imagine being a six year old living in an indoor forest that mum has made would be amazing 😀.
That’s exactly what my mum did it was amazing
Hello, I missed your comments! She does love it! I do love her getting into it, she is the only one of my kids who is even remotely interested yet! She is adorable, except when she messes with my things and she is not home so I can't ask her where she put it!!🤣🤣
@@sketchyartydoll Lucky you!
Great news. I've made 11 moss poles and really don't like the mess when maintaining and the quick drying.
Thanks for the idea! I would love to hear your opinion in a few months too.
Sure thing!
Cool alternative! And sphagnum moss is actually very renewable and sustainable. It grows on top of peat bogs and only takes about 5 years to reproduce. The peat moss that grows underneath sphagnum moss is the one that takes thousands of years and should not be harvested for houseplants. Sphagnum moss =/= peat moss
Thank you! I agree 100% about Sphagnum moss, it is not to be confused with peat moss. Have you seen my earlier video about why using moss is not such a hot idea? I talk a bit about that and the other reasons why moss is, to put it mildly, annoying.
👉 th-cam.com/video/d4GM7cn8BME/w-d-xo.html
Wow. Plant technology is real. I thought your white princess was a Monstera Albo... Ha ha....I guess I have to purchase one. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much, I don’t do well with moss poles and have been looking for a good alternative with little luck. I ordered two pre made fern fiber after watching this, I’m so excited!
Thumbnail is 🔥
Thank you so much . You know thumbnails are my Achille's heel! I do not think I have hit the sweet spot yet, still grinding.
I’m new to your channel and sad I haven’t found you sooner! I’m obsessed 🪴💚💚 keep it coming beautiful!!!
Welcome!! So glad you are here! Let's have fun together!
Hi precious, before i move my plants on pole , I use my aquarium filter sponge , the white one ☝🏾 like cotton, just tied it right under the plant node , just to keep water and heat on this spot , roots will pop out rapidly. I’ve tested it on : philodendron/ mayoi, florida, monstera Peru and his look alike … all those plants are in wood / leca/ perlite + soil hyper chunky so I can water as much I want . My fertiliser is obviously aquariums filter dirty water 😅.
Hey Queen, that was interesting. I love the color of the tree fern fiber. Can’t wait to see the results. I think I will try it. Thanks again Queen 👸🏾 ❤️❤️😊🌸🌿🌼
You are very welcome Pam. The colour is amazing, isn't it? It allows the green to just pop!! I will keep you posted in a few months.
I am going to try this! I actually really like the look of it. Weird to say but it looks more sophisticated! Also the little bit of pink on your White Princess is so cute!
I love the look! That strip of pink is gold!!!
That’s so cool. Will get some tree fern fiber & try one. Thanks for sharing Nora!
Tree fern fibre is also used as a substrate for certain reptiles/amphibians; worth checking exotic pet shops to see if they carry it or if they can get some in for you! 😃
Thank you for the tip!
Stuff like that is usually much more expensive if you buy it as a supply for pet care.
I've also found some gems at my local reptile/amphibian store in terms of live plants, for a fraction of the nursery price.
Okay I'm going to try this out! I'll update on my progress!
Yayy!!!
👉 Watch this video to understand why I am looking to move away from using Sphagnum moss for my poles
th-cam.com/video/d4GM7cn8BME/w-d-xo.html
👉 Buy Tree Fern Fibre here: geni.us/BMVAP (Amazon Affiliate Link)
👉 Watch this video to see how the Tree Fern Fibre I use is harvested
th-cam.com/video/yqlVHu8oYlo/w-d-xo.html
Ooooo this is super interesting... Never knew tree ferns were used for this.
Love this video. Happy Planting 🪴🙏🏾👏🌿🌱💚
Thank you! You too!
Very very cool alternative!! Love your channel 💕
I just made a couple with orchid bark, I mean in the wild they grow on bark... Fingers crossed it works 🤞
No reason why it should not! All the best.
it doesnt work, maybe on syngonium cuz they have insane roots but thats it. Been there done that.
@@mikedecem is it because they probably do not hold as much moisture
@@TheLecaQueen SydneyPlantGuy has one video, he is visiting some nursery and they have syngo with pole filled with pine bark and it has insane roots.
Your videos inspire me to try new things ☀️
I am so glad Marco, because that is my goal, and if even one person is inspired then I am happy. But let's be honest, more people would be nice 😁
I LEARN SO MUCH FROM YOU!
WHERE DO U BUY ALL THESE SUPPLIES? I WANT TO MAKE MY OWN POLES BUT HAVENT A CLUE... LOL
I loved this! I think another update in a few months would be wonderful!
Thank you for watching and commenting. I will certainly give an update. I bought a big bag of fibre so will be making a few more poles as soon as I get the chance.
@@TheLecaQueenseconding this! Would love to see an update on how it’s going.
I love tree fern fiber!!
So many useful tips! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Love the idea and curious to see how this works in the long run. I have an actual tree fern growing in doors in perlite and I’m actually experiencing fungus gnats inside the trunk of the plant itself, as I have to keep the trunk moist at all times. I hope it doesn’t happen for you but definitely something to look out for given the similar conditions.
Thanks for the heads up, I will keep an eye out.
Try Steinernema nematodes against the fungus gnats, if you can get your hands on them.
this was great....always fun to learn something new.....i agree, the dark color really show cases the leaves. I hope you can keep us posted on this new process...if the fibre holds moisture, i wonder if it will develop any algae.
Ma'am have you been reading my Google searches?! I just ordered a few tree fern fibre moss poles last week!
That is so funny!! Great minds think alike!
It's a great substrate, and I used it for some orchids in the past, but ended up switching to sphagnum moss in the end for environmental reasons really. Be interesting to see how it does as a pole though. People should be mindful that when buying tree fern fiber, to try to get ones from New Zealand, as those from South America and parts of Asia are not always ethically harvested and there was little regulation as to where it was being sourced (sadly, many were cut down in rain forests, etc). Also be mindful that tree ferns do grow slowly - unlike moss which can have a turn around of a few years - so more people using it could result in pressure on the market which can have disastrous effects.
That is an interesting perspective Annabel thank you. Sometimes we forget how not everyone is as conscientious.
@@TheLecaQueen Tree fern fiber is a terrific substrate and growing medium and it is being used (again) a lot more now in plant culture, particularly in orchid culture (I grow species orchids as well as too many plants requiring moss poles - according to my husband at any rate lol). Decades ago, orchids were widely grown in tree fern fiber, as were a lot of plants that we'd buy in nurseries. Unfortunately, high demand meant that a lot of species of ferns in the America's and Asia are now endangered, as they would be cut down from native forests to meet market demand, so a lot of people switched to moss instead of the fiber. As with most things, we should be mindful of where we source our material. I don't use tree fern fiber any longer and haven't for over a decade now. How it's sourced in NZ for the most part is from private land where some wish to clear or remove vegetation and most of the time, they will use a helicopter to lift them out once they are cut down, much like they do with sphagnum moss to reduce damage to the land with heavy machinery. As I've noted, it is a terrific substrate and I'd rate it as one of the best as it takes a long time to break down. So I am very interested in how it will work for you as an alternative to moss poles!
I hear you about how fast sphagnum moss dries out and I live in QLD, so it can often dry out within a few days - I'm now converting those poles to plastic backed ones to reduce how fast it dries. I stopped spraying them with a water bottle and not just take them outside or to the shower and give them a quick shower once every couple of weeks. Saved my sanity.
@@Mooky941 I've been late to the moss pole game as I have few of these climbing plants (and only a few orchids). Your comment is insightful, includes great tips, and is very educational to this science-minded, environmentalist. Thank you and hats off to you! ☮️🌱💛💚
Thank you for this video!
You are very welcome.
Tree fern fibre is readily available and legally harvested in Tasmania. Most places sell 20 litre bags for around $14.
Thank you so much for this info vid!
Glad it was helpful!
Oh, that is even harder to get in Germany than sphagnum:) But I like the color. I'm curious how it works.
Nice alternative to try.💜👍
Yes, thank you
Hi, Thank you so much for your time, Please let me know can I use COCOPEAT instead of Tree Fern Fibre. thanks
What about coconut coir? I’ve seen it recommended as a potting alternative for spag, but have never personally used it. Anyone have any idea how it would do in a pole?
Why not use a mixture of both?...that's what I do...they love it!!
I am considering that but still on the fence about it. The only reason I would at this point is to use the moss I already have in my home.
Thank you for showing I need to ask a question when leca is Soca for 24 hours and it is washed out after what do I do have a blessed day
Nora, do you think the tree fern medium stays moist any longer than the sphagnum, or is it about the same?
I think it stays moist longer
Hello. Great vid, as usual. Do you ever combine sphagnum moss and tree fern fiber to make poles?
Oh yes. That is now my go to mixture. See this video here for more info: th-cam.com/video/Z3PRxIMthsA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LsLqwhOTcSRk671u
@@TheLecaQueen Fantastic! Your vids really are great and so informative. Thanks for all you do to help and educate semi hydro lovers like me!
I use leca and planks
That works too!!
Isnt it just as good to use cocopeat instead of tree fern fibre?
I keep thinking of coconut cuir and am curious about your insights on it
Nora what do you think about using Compressed coconut fiber expandable substrate in place of the tree fern fiber? I can get my hands on that much quicker and cheaper than the the other
Great idea, have you ever considered using rockwool for a pole media
I have actually. I made a rockwool pole but could not get the pH neutral enough to use for my plants in leca. The rockwool was changing the pH of my reservoir too much I gave up on it.
Great content! I am thinking of making a pole with the tree fern fiber against the solid backing of the plastic pole, and coco chunks on top of that. This might help contain the tree fern fiber if it dries and is somehow tapped about accidently.
Nice!!!
Hi My Queen! This looks better and I will try it.
Can you use soil instead of Leca?
You can certainly use soil.
How different is the fern bark from coco coir?
How long does it retain water for ? Is it better? Moss dries out far too quickly for me
Wish I could find this tree fern fiber in eu
What is the plastic sheet? Where do I buy?? What do I ask for? To re hydrate moss, you spray the outside to prime it then you can water from the top.
very nice would this be similar to peat moss ? one of my plants from a box store was planted with it and it looks similar
Not at all similar to peat moss. This is made out of trees unlike peat moss which is harvested from peat bogs and has more of a detrimental environmental impact when harvested.
@The Leca Queen wow !!! did not know that about peat moss. I'm happy I switched out that medium for my plant lol thanks ! I guess I'll just toss it I wasn't sure if I could reuse it for anything 💚
Can you please do an update once the pole has gone dry? I’m intrigued if it will be messy and lose again, I have a dog so if it gets knocked then it won’t stay in 🤣
Tree fern fibre is amazing, but it's much more expensive than sphagnum moss (at least where I live) and to create a few 24¨ high poles I don't even want to know how much I'd need of it and how much it'd cost in total 😅
You can buy a compressed tree fern fiber pole. It's much cheaper
In the Philippines, especially in my region, it is illegal to cut tree ferns off from the wild because they are endangered.
I would definitely encourage you do do the right thing for your environment, do what is legal and use something else in your pole.
Hi 🙂 l was just wondering if you knew if it was the NZ Forestry Service that said this is sustainable and renewable or NZ Ecologists ?
Tree ferns grow at the rate of one inch per year, here and in NZ.
Legally, they can only be cleared from private land after tagging, and from corporate bought indigenous bush land, for the timber and paper suppliers.
I am not sure how Ecologists would of said this is sustainable, or even renewable considering at their rate of growth.
Sphagnum moss can be fully renewed within three to five years.
If people are dead set on using Tree Ferns they should probably find their nearest nursery and buy the tagged stumps (white official tags), if they're lucky they may be able to buy them for $30 per foot, but chances are they'll be around the $50/$60 mark per foot.
Quick note : if you find something growing on your TFF that looks similar to Liver Wort, just leave it because you've got active spores. 👍
Also, for anyone that may be thinking about harvesting them from indigenous bushlands, the fines are incredible and there can be jail time involved. Rangers are always out and they will catch you.
Have you tried only filing the pole to as far as the plant currently needs it? Then when the plant grows higher, add more TFF from the top.
No. I like to do something once and be done with it.
Could you also use some sort or easy break netting that roots could break or grow thru and would also keep the TFF from falling thru too ? Isn’t TFF expensive though? But I think it has much better nutritional values though. If you just said that as I was typing… your our Queen for a reason!
I did think about a net, could not find one or was too lazy to find one so used what I had and thankfully it worked!😊😬
I love the color but I would have made it a bit slimmer and rounder. Maybe without the plastic backing.
I can see that. And that is why I like making poles instead of buying them, one can make them exactly the way they want. I hope you try it. I would love to know how you go.
@@TheLecaQueen it's an honor to see your response. You're one of my favorites. That's a great point you made. I have a philodendron burgundy princess I'd like to try it on.
How about mixing moss and the fiber? How the moss disintegrate if it gets too dry?
I suggest watching this video: th-cam.com/video/YR1v9Qg4Nb4/w-d-xo.html
Tree fern fiber is wayyy too expensive for anyone in North American tho. I know it’s expensive here in Canada.
Good idea for anyone who has it affordable though.
I am sorry about the cost, maybe as more people start to use it the cost will come down? One can hope....
Could you use a mixture of tree fern and spaghum moss on a moss pole?
I do that all the time see how here:th-cam.com/video/YR1v9Qg4Nb4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HyQfrXJWBLisCeC9
When you use moss poles or tree fiber do you get alot of fungus knats?
Not that I have seen but some people have reported it so I guess it does happen.
At 7:21 you mention you don't want any of the tree fern portion inside the nursery pot? Can you explain why?
The fern fibre will be moist thus having that moist organic matter next to my roots constantly risks root rot. Hope that makes sense.
Sphagnum moss is renewable, not like peat moss. Tree Fern Fiber is 4 times the price of Sphagnum in the US, not sure about other Countries. I’m sure it works great. 💚 Love that it’s not hydrophobic.
Yes, the cost and availability are definite drawbacks.
@@TheLecaQueen Yes, but like you I like the dark color better. 💚 I wonder if the fern tree fiber lasts longer.
This sounds really interesting, but not highly available in Europe. :( The only supplier seems to be 'Fernwood' and one 10L bag costs over 20 Euro/Dollars. IdK how long 10l will last when you put it in a pole. Only vendors I found so far are located in the Netherlands or in the UK, so you can add around 15 for shipping I guess. In the US it seems to be half the price. :)
I was just wondering if you are still using tree fern fibre, or have gone back to moss.
Thanks😊
I use a combination of both. Check out my latest moss pole videos.
Has there been an update to this video yet ??
Hello, it is hard to do individual updates due to the nature of TH-cam. I do show the plants in other videos like Q&As. The pole is ok but I had to chop the plant because it was not growing well because of lack of light.
How much do you need for a pole?
Tough to answer, it depends on how big the pole is. Sorry, not the best answer.
Hello, can you tell me what kind of fern fiber you used? I saw different types on Amazon. Thanks
I use the Fernwood NZ Fibre brand.
Thanks 😊
Do you recommend a particular brand? There are several on the internet. I am concerned about quality, just like with sphagnum.
I use the Fernwood New Zealand brand. I use this one because they explain how and where they source their fibre. I recommend researching the company before you buy the product.
@@TheLecaQueen thank you.
How thick is plastic sheet? Where can I get it in the States?
Check out this video for details. Off the top of my head the plastic is 0.8mm thick. th-cam.com/video/Z3PRxIMthsA/w-d-xo.html
How long does it take to grow a tree fern for harvest? I thought they were slow growers. I heard they grow 50 millimeters or 5 centimeters a year at most. I think harvesting kills them .
I think they harvest the trees when they are about 10 years old. The one I buy says they harvest from sustainable private forests and not randomly chopping down trees. Check out their video 👉 th-cam.com/video/yqlVHu8oYlo/w-d-xo.html
I did some research and it says the fiberosa species is abundant and sustainable
Yes! Its not sustainable, they take long time tô grow. Here In brazil, its ilegal to harvest.
Please, explano the risk to nature of harvesting this fiber!
@@paksaoify Thank you!
Here in the US, tree fern fiber is SO much more expensive than sphagnum moss and so I can’t let enough go to make an entire pole. I’d love to if I can find it cheaper.
Why i can t use bark for orchids?
Pretty sure you can
Would love to see how one does without the plastic backing 🤔 I think I will give it a try myself! I love the color too! So much sleeker than the moss
It most certainly is. I might make one just for you
Are you still using these poles? If so can you show us an update. Like a minute or two.
See this video: th-cam.com/video/Y1IEfCm2NiI/w-d-xo.html
Do you know the PH of TreeFern Fibre?
I have not checked it myself, they say it is pH neutral which is one of the reasons why it works great as a growing medium.
@The Leca Queen Perfect! That would be my only concern with using Tree Fern Fibre. Thank you for the video.
would love to see an update on this - how well the roots have grown into the fibre?
They have grown really well. I have done some updates on my Community tab. I put quick updates of things there. Please check it out.
Leca queen your microphone is faulty. It's like a buzzing high pitched sound when your speaking (mic on) but when it's sped up between cuts it goes away so it's deffo not the music track. If it's wireless it could be picking something up like a router / mobile phone / light fitting it's almost similar to the interference that flourecent tube lights emit or a power supply / charger
Thanks for that comment. I did realise that during the edit but unfortunately with my meagre sound skills could not make it any better. Probably means a new microphone for me. Sorry about that. I had hoped it would not be too obvious.
I was not expecting you to have a child. In my mind, you are the mother of plant babies, not flesh babies. My mind is blown!😆
I have 3 gorgeous real human babies that keep me way more busy than the plants ever could! 15 year old son, and 13 and 7 year old girls. I love them to bits!
@@TheLecaQueen I bet you're the coolest mum in the neighbourhood. Cool hair, a thriving TH-cam channel, making time for them and whatnot. I wish you and your family all the joy!
Great product but very expensive.
How is your white princess going on the tree fern poles??
You can check it out in my latest video where I discuss tree fern fibre poles here:
👉 th-cam.com/video/7NrY73Z-zg8/w-d-xo.html
I'm so curious how you made out! I'm thinking of trying Lee from Kill This Plant's PVC pipe moss pole design but I'm uncertain how that would work with the Tree Fern Fibre since it's so loose and airy.
How did you you find it as it dried?
you know what i was thinking? since you re using leca anyways... cant you just make a leca pole?
I know why you think that, however, leca is notorious for drying pretty quickly. Unless I want to use pumps to meek the leca moist, a leca pole just does not work, I have tried! Even using a wick does not work.
hey nora :) i want to give tree fern fiber a go. Can you roughly say what amount you used on that pole? I am wondering how long 5l/10l will last. And how is the pole doing so far?
nah! i use cocochips instead of the pricey sphag moss and been doing it for years and my plants are growing fine. I even wrap my poles with grafting tape to contain moisture as i have low humidity in my area. Plants are fine and leaves are bigger and taller. I hope these tree fern fibers are grown from a farm and not stolen from the mountains in tropical countries. They use to steal that from the mountains and chop both ends and turn it upside down and plant orchids in asia.
That is awesome 👌. Whatever works I say. If you check the description of this video, I give details about where the Tree fern fibre is sourced. Thanks
You have to stop and think where this tree fern moss comes from. Swathes of diminishing rainforest! The idea of our beautiful tree ferns being pushed through a shredder brings me to screaming tears. Please DON'T use this until you know its not from the ever decreasing Queensland rainforests. I beg you..... DON'T!!!! 😭🙏
Here In Brazil its ilegal tô use tree fern fiber, cause its endangered because people destroy the tree tô take the fiber.
Hello Patricia, I definitely encourage you to stay on the right side of the law and use what is legally available for you to use. Using Tree Fern Fibre is not illegal here and is available for use. Thank you for sharing this information. 🙂
i love tree fern fiber for poles but it is expensivvvvvveeeeeee... ive only made 1 pole because I'm rationing it 😂
I know what you mean. I have a lot of moss so I am going to make a hybrid moss-fibre pole and see how that works.
I cant afford it lol
Tree fern are not sustanable, here In Brasil is endangered specie. They take a long time tô grow
I encourage people to use what is legally available. If Tree Fern Fibre is illegal or not available one can use other media in the poles such as coco chips, moss, potting mix and many others. Check out the link I have provided in the pinned comment above that shows how the tree fern fibre I use is ethically sourced and harvested from private forests.
That stuff is rediculiously expensive. Anyone have a good supplier that I won't have to give my rent money to? lol
I hear you.
Just be careful because tree fern fiber is not that sustainable. It takes a lot of time to grow tree ferns where that is from. As long as the seller makes it sustainable, it should be good.
True, check out this video: th-cam.com/video/7xwxUlCU354/w-d-xo.html
They're cutting down trees so you can have tree fern fiber how is that sustainable that makes no sense what that is is the beautiful bottoms of gorgeous forests that they chopped up shame on everybody
Please grow a tree fern, dont use the fizer. Lets grow the tree fern, they can take cold winter