Completely nailed it Gagan Sir. The main problem with Honda is that they take Indian customer sentiments for granted & just dump shits in the market hoping everyone will buy with no questions asked. If Tata & Mahindra can innovate, Honda why not? There lies the main point.
The main problem is Indian customer base which is very cost sensitive and priority is only for fuel efficiency and some useless features like panoramic sunroof, SUV like stance without all wheel drive. Honda is mainly known for their good performance engines which everyone want for a cheap price and our tax structure is not suitable for high performing bigger capacity engines. Fuel costs are also very high when compared to other Asian countries like, Philipines, Malaysia, Thailand, etc..... All in all most of the mainstream Japanese manufacturers dont have much profit in India when compared to other Asian countries where only Suzuki is suceeding because they have the cheapest produced vehicles in Japan and India.
@@tijokurian3820 I won't say India is to that point cost sensitive. Yeah it can be true to a certain extent but see people are even buying Fortuner with 60 lakh price. Is it justified. Same for Innova as well. Honda doesn't have anything which is outright appealing to the masses.
Mahindra's innovation only resulted in wheel assembly coming off at 100kmph resulting in near fatal and at times fatal injuries to passengers. They had to recall cars. Do you ever hear this with Honda? Never. I agree Honda needs to bring good cars to India but Mahindra and Tata has a long way to go in building fundamentally well engineered cars where wheels don't come off!
Right bro. I own a City 2018. Never got a call for product feedback. Hard suspension (which got fixed in the later model), poor cabin noise insulation, dashboard rattles, old infotainment etc the list goes on...
Great insights. Last year I purchased Honda Elevate Automatic ZX. I was able to afford the top version because it was introduced as the cheapest in its segment. And, it had all the necessary standard and advance features at 15.99 lacs. A reasonable price with top notch quality. So ,if you are driving a honda you are few of those niche individuals who understand the meaning of "quality". And quality comes at a cost! Less features and good quality is the focus of Honda. Remember, Honda is not for the mass market; but for those who understand quality. You can Very we'll go to an interview and say you own a Honda. Means, you understand Quality. You see... and that's what they are focusing. Well, you can now clearly distinguish yourself from the mass and you don't have to say a word.
Only if Honda management would have watched this. I guess with an MBA degree management folks lose sense of practicality at the grassroot level. I feel sorry for Honda.
Generally , MBAs are what goes wrong with a company which should be engineering focused. But looking at honda doing good mechanically, just bad at marketing, finding a product market fit and expanding, MBAs are what they need.
Agreed on your views......but Honda is a no nonsense car....I have bought HONDA City in 2024.... and having very good experience...have seen many other reputed brands with features loaded in it.. But there are some or the other small issue keeps on coming...though the companies solve the problems...but it's very irritating....so Honda is a car for those who wants to enjoy the drive without any complaints for years...in my view..
Honda just need to launch 4 models in india that they have in Thailand- WRV, HRV, BRV and CRV. But the problem with Honda is that the sales amd business is totally controlled and handled by the parent japanese officials they need to think like an indian buyer not as a japanese buyer. This same arrogant and lack of market research along with total control from the parent company resulted in the downfall of Ford, Chevy and Renault
Honda don’t want to listen to customer feedback, learn from Kia who listened to Indian customers before launching Seltos in India and launched it with features as per customer survey. Honda is stubborn, I think this may be the last chance for Honda India. Brio discontinued, Brv discontinued, Accord discontinued, Crv discontinued, Civic discontinued, WRV discontinued. Soon Honda may be discontinued.
I am using brio for last 10 years and the experience is amazing. Still now the refinement is better than fe new cars and reliability is unmatched. I am feeling sad for Honda. I don’t understand why they are not doing the needful.
I am an automobile engineer ......driving city from last 10 years....& if i purchase next car it will be again HONDA CITY.........honda cars is for passionate people.....honda cars are so reliable.......sufficient features for daily needs.......Honda cars are mechanically so strong & efficient......Indians never respect good cars.....indian love features not engine & good transmission.........pls respect honda cars they are so good.......far better tan hyundai,maruti &kia......
Being mechanically strong is not an excuse to offer outdated cars. Honda regularly updates it's cars globally but they keep on offering same model in india with limited options. Honda had hrv since forever but some genius decided to launch civic instead of that. It took them 10 years to launch elevate and even then it's launched with just one engine option. Why can't they launch turbo option to compete with creta/ kia and vw / skoda turbo suvs. Why can't they launch a hybrid option to compete with grand vitara. Having 100 gimmicy features in car is not necessary but having engine options is a must. With time certain features also become a necessary so you need to offer them to stay competitive. Ford made the same mistake and had to exit
Bro you could be a passionate driver but you fail to understand indian buyer , they are so much clever and only buy try and tested plus widely service available cars only , i mean they are buying scorpio N in thousands per month, something is very wrong with honda and that discourages the buyer
In my opinion honda is not doing bad instead market is going opposite to them. They offered adas in 12.70 lakhs city. They offered the best engine and best features in city with price but people are going for suv which honda is still laging in 4m car. Its all about mindset. They will never exit india mark my words
@@raoragh nope, honda is not doing bad instead they are not giving gimic features, tell me a car with adas under 20 lakh. Honda gave it in honda city under 12.5 lakhs. Best engine in 15 lakhs that can beat all the cars under 15 lakhs. They lag gimic features like ventilated seats, 360 camera etc which is more preferred in india rather than safety and drivability. They are doing great apart from india. Still 4th largest seller in world. Indian audience has no knowledge of cars right nowadays. They follow trend,
@@AuguryOmenfuck don’t find points just to back Honda ! Is sunroof a safety feature instead they could have given ventilated seats ! They are offering it as an accessory same with tpms They are making us fools
Yes sir being a City brv and wrv all three cars owner I can clearly say these cars are built to last and the dtech engine was a gem for mileage lovers vtech manual is extremely fun but....Why the CVT ? And not a good torque converter mated to a turbocharged petrol engine Honda was the only manufacturer to offer diesel amaze with CVT it was a big big segment gap filler as still till date we crave for diesels and our family's want automatic transmission as well Why the wrv didn't ever get a cvt ? A small thing as rear adjustable headrests in wrv are a must
I completely agree with you as I was a city and civic owner.misses in turbocharged vehicles and gearing has made me move out of Honda. Honda management should move out of the thoughts process that India is 3rd world economy. Today I buy a Crete, Vitara or seltos is because of the features offered in petrol diesel and choice of transmission
Excellent video...u nailed it....we own Honda Accord n my heart was set on Honda however had to decide Toyota Hyrider V Hybride due to all the reasons u highlighted...and its baffling how this smart company can ignore the fastest growing economy.
Good one sir.... I purchased Amaze after searching according to my budget(under 10 lakh) for 5months...my requirements were safety, engine refinement and space... I thus moved to Amaze... But i feel.. Androis wireless carplay, 6 airbags should be there in the top model atleast...
Honda cars are all rounder in terms of Safety, Dynamics, Ride quality, comfort, space, reliability, peace of mind and value for money from base variant but they are lacking in various aspects like No NCAP rating despite they also know both City and Elevate will score good or even 5 star rating..they just show internal crash test rating in the launch event but never send any car to GNCAP or BNCAP..I have suggested them multiple times on twitter but no response.. They are always late to the party but always lack behind what the customer demands.. I think they also know that their Sub4m Compact Suv won't survive in the competition because of cars like Nexon,Xuv 3XO,Sonet which already set a benchmark & they won't be able to provide more features than these cars.. But we all know honda has potential which can disrupt the competition if they learnt from their mistakes and launch Compact Suv like WRV and BRV which will surely help them to gain 15k numbers. We believe in you Honda but try to compete with the competition not with yourself.
I have watched several Honda City YT accident videos, which prove the sturdiness of car in withstanding impact, despite lack of crash test certificates..(.btw am a City 2023 model owner)❤.
Gagan ji Honda still considers India a developing country and Indians only consideration is mileage. Your video should be an Eye opener for Honda India and hope they will change their attitude towards India and consider Indian market to be niche and aspiring and change fast for the better. ❤
Perfect assessment... Honda had an upper hand in case of reliability and had it brought latest technology in engine tuning and suspension it wud have ruled
Agree completely. I'm not even keen on lifestyle features, but six airbags and 1L turbo-charged engines are big misses, considering their pricing. I was waiting for the new WRV but it seems they'll bring it with 1.2L naturally aspirated engine, the same one used in Amaze and I'm reconsidering. Again, expected pricing at 9-13 lacs with lesser features and no engine options, isn't going to get them market share.
Really agree with u sir. I also own amaze top model since 2022 and looking forward mid size suv or suv .love these honda engines but lack of punch or power can't go for elevate. They must bring turbo engines. Even honda customer loosing faith in brand because only three options to choose. Feeling bad for such a top class brand a one engines 😢😢😢😢
I always like your honest reviews ji, Fully in sync with your thoughts, you are giving free advise to HONDA. Hope Honda is listening , i am a HONDA customer since 2004, they need to up the game. why are they not bringing RAV 4 to India?
Good analysis. Honda should take advantage of this , otherwise they may loose the present 2 percentage market share also. Competition is everywhere. Gone are the days to proclaim old Dynasty. Now the business is different. Otherwise,like Ford ,honda will also go.
The main issue with Honda is overconfidence and arrogance, spare parts not available after market and high price. These are the reason Honda is going down.
Kia or hyundai cannot show even confidence because of the quality of cars. Look at UAE market, Korean cars are still seen as cheap alternatives for Japanese cars.. now taken over by Chinese actually. No Japanese cars offer 5 year buy back policy...they do it since their cars don't last for 5 years....
Sir , I can clearly see your love for Honda Cars and the facts you have highlighted are very true.Honda Should upgrade tgeir cars eith more features with price similar to their competitors
I completely agree with you. Honda's pricing high with less features though their engines are very good but customers also want latest features so they avoid to purchase Honda cars. I have Jazz 2017 model. It's very good car but costly also.
Gagan bhai, you are spot on. Honda should immediately bring in atleast 5-6 features which is missing in Elevate like Choice of Engines ICE/Hybrid/Turbo, Ventilated front seats, 360 degree camera, Panoramic Sunroof, ADAS 2.0, Electronic seat adjustment... This will give Cretas, Seltoss... a run for their money.
Gagan Bhai. Honda aise hi chalegi. They won't change. After seeing so much of changes in the Market trend their Indian management is not able to maneuver their Japanese team' on this. They still haven't learnt from Maruti. Hyundai. Tata and now Mahindra as examples
Before buying XUV 300; I contacted to Honda showroom.. They didn't seems to be interested in selling cars.. No discount, no follow-up calls, No features explaination... Even said we will make it available will be biggest help we can do..
Which city. I visited many showrooms in last five years for me or my friends but never faced this attitude in any showrooms in Telangana or Andhrapradesh
Today visited Honda showroom for the test drive of Honda City Hybrid. Except for Ride and space inside the car (maybe blind spot camera) really disappointed with it. Even my friend who came along with me, were greatly disappointed after hearing 25 Lakhs on road with basic features. And car with almost half the price will get you ventilated seats, power adjustment for driver seats. I am sucker for great sedans. But, I couldn't digest the fact that basic feature set for that price. My friend who came along with me got shocked to know that Honda having to sell just 4 cars ( technically 3! ). I was boasting about Honda being the premium brand infront of her, but today its literally got shattered 😢. If the durability and reliability being the USP of Honda, what are the other Japanese brands for ?? Not sure what Honda was thinking of...
Sare points sahi hai aapke, bas Honda ke bachav me itna hi kahana hai ki reliability durability to hai hi comfort hai aur ek accha ADAS hai, bas nam ka nhi. Sach kahe to features ek lalach hai jitna ho itana kam lagta hai, electronic element jitna Kam ho utana sukoon rahta hai. Parents ke jamane ki purani tv 20-20 years se chal Rahi hai, aur Aaj ki TV 5 years me hi dhokha Dene lagti hai😂
All features that u r talking about are very less compared to drive reliability and built quality of honda cars. They quality cruise it offers is still best in India. Features given in 15 lac rs car of other brand cannot be compared with hondas reliability. Your friend wants redmi and u tried explaining him one plus or say samsung ultra
Honda's though knee room is good but under thigh support is bad ..front seats movement is limited to increase knee room for rear seats and steering adjustable but during ingress/egress touches the knees when set properly and Ac cooling is decent at Best not chilly as Mahindra and Toyota or even Tata.Engine NA is good but only performs at higher rpms in real world only mid range matters ..
very well made compliation of questions.. @HONDACARSINDIA please address this. You are making cars with such a good margin and profits why just stay with reliability factor when you are show your brand value..
Booked elevate VX CVT and waited for 2 months and but after again checking the car with family, rear seat comfort is bad for 3 people and no cruise control. So cancelled elevate which is 18 lakhs and bought powerful xuv300...the saved money can be used as fuel expenses. Totally happy😂
I have been driving honda city for 15 yrs and decided to buy a new car and taken a test drive for Honda elevate. The suspension is not good. Engine sound inside the cabin is disturbing. This is compared with creta.😊
They know only to charge premium on their brand name. Now that they have compromised on quality, still they want premium, who will give it? Watch their service costs. They forgot, why their brand was initially appreciated, what's the reason, comfort,and quality...at price but now they forgot the first two
I am a owner of Elevate ZX CVT for six months, purchased at the best in class introductory offer. It is a full necessary features vehicle and includes Honda Sensing. The fancy features which are not provided jacking up the cost is not ordinarily required. The car ownership both in city and highway is excellent, though mileage in bumper to bumper city traffic is less.
Had booked an elevate. The features in each trim level and price difference and choice of necessary features/absence of same made me cancel my booking. Don't think company honchos take Indian customers seriously now. May be they think they don't owe Indian customers what they offer outside. May be govt policy too might have helped them ignore these. In tropical Kerala I dont need a sun roof, but need automatic with folding OVRM all.disk brakes and six air bags for which I must opt for top.model with ADAS which in Indian roads are still confusing. Comparing with other.models I found the options very pricy and hence moved away.
I desperately wanted to buy Amaze . I had 12 yrs old DZIRE (diesel). Since I live in Delhi NCR government has become strict on diesel cars. I could not wait for amaze and bought tata nexon today only. If honda would have given 6 airbags like other cars I would definitely have bought amaze today.
@@sudhirgovilkar1280they go after Tata, Mahindra, Hyundai, toyota and Kia also who understand the customer needs and update their products accordingly.
@@abhishekjain3213 Have you ever used Honda cars? Go, try and feel it... You'll fall in love immediately. I'm using Honda Amaze VX CVT Elite edition, they're giving me CVT gearbox with paddle shifters, iVTEC 4 cylinder refined, noisless and smooth engine, 4 stars safety with ACE body structure, 420 litres of boot space, ample leg room with minimum hump in second row, Keyless entry, Auto ORVM, Auto headlights, Leatherette seat covers, good quality materials, not hanky fanky but got smooth alpine make 7" display supporting wired Android auto/Apple Carplay/ Web link with zero lags, wireless charger, central arm rest with storage, powerfull AC, etc. No other manufacturers are giving such kind of specs in sub 4 meters sedan cars or at that price range. CVT with paddle shifters features are like cherries on the top of the cake.
All points are very related to current issues with Honda in India,. Used Brio it was great, currently using Amaze & City, It's excellent. Honda seriously need good strategists for Indian market.
You are just spot on... You analysis has always been great... Very very indepth knowledge... And you are impartial... I own Amaze 2019...I thought of upgrading to City, not Elevate ... But now I am seriously thinking of shifting from Honda..... Hope Honda management comes to know about your observation... I am still a Honda lover...
"why is Honda losing the plot??" .. absolutely correctly said .. its so baffling actually ... it's like honda cars india has given up ... get some sensible heads at the higher ups of honda cars india
Yes I fully agree. Iam using JAZZ S variant since 2016. It’s almost eight years. Now they do not have varieties and are left out with only three models. As clearly thought by you iam too apprehensive that they may prove dark horse in leaving India or perhaps planning so.
Atleast Honda dosent rust like TATA. Honda dosent goes to service center every week (like tata MAHINDRA) Honda's part quality is far better than 3rd class brand TATA, MAHINDRA. Honda's reliability is 100 years ahead than TATA, MAHINDRA. Reliability and Durability, unknown terms for TATA, MAHINDRA. Term Refinement, Unknown for both Tata, Mahindra. Overall TATA, MAHINDRA 3rd class, worst, cheap quality brands in the world.
@@gauravsahasrabudhe231 alto is reliable than Rust TATA, MAHINDRA. Alto has better service assist than Rust TATA, MAHINDRA. 😁😁 Your brain has also rusted just like TATA, MAHINDRA
When will you upgrade Mr Gagan and which car you are planning to go for in 2024? Can you please make a video of Kia Carens premium optional or prestige plus iMT
I have 10 years old Amaze,no nonsense great car. In this video I am absolutely agree with your each and every point. I just can't understand,what we are wanting from Honda,the management is not considered since so many years and launching new models so lately without features.
I’m interested in buying Amaze; I am looking for a car with more airbags and 360 degrees camera. Will the Honda management listen? I am not interested in sunroof.
I just purchased a used Honda BRV yesterday.. have seen tons of reviews. Its super spacious in its segment and very practical car. Its a true Multi Purpose Vehicle
Amaze is safer than glanza in built quality. But glanza again has 6 airbags and 360 camera in top model. Is 360 camera useful enough to consider glanza ?
I'm also a honda owner during the last 8 years. Sir, I also agreed with you. HONDA manager should watch this video and review their business strategy in the Indian market.
Sir, Observation bilkul Sahi Hai, Lekin down the line ek cheez rok rahi hai, Jo mujhe lagti hai Bahot saalau se, Cost effectiveness, Honda Cars Competative pricing me nahi bech sakti, Isiliyeah compition me rehne ke liyeah Hona Cars me Features ki Cost cutting Hoti hai...
I have been driving a Honda for nearly 9 yrs ...the car handling and the engine is amazing, and still I will choose a Honda over many other cars... Features are thrown in when they are not confident of the car, if the car's body, engine and performance are good then features can always be added !
Indian car buyers clearly lack understanding of the term quality. But at the same time, Honda also takes the blame for not innovating according to emerging trends and desires. One major suicidal move was the decision to do away with the diesel engine. Secondly, Honda's decision to go along with a a ridiculously chrome heavy front looks which looks just the same for its sedan line up, is great turn off. It deprives a model of its individual appeal. Honda also needs to be a lot more committed to it's model line up and its customers. For all it may try, Honda will never really be able to explain why it withdrew the fantastic CRV. And why something like the Honda WRV was discontinued. And yes, nit having a turbo charger is like shooting yourself in the feet!
i can understand ur frustration n so do i.. i m a big fan of Honda n i have honda City…. civic n accord was by childhood dream but now those dreamzz hve evaporated long back.. My DAD frequently travels to Europe n north America and always insist me to buy CRV coz every American have them well. we dont hve CRV nor we hve civic n either Indian youth hve any excitement towards Honda
excitement is there for Honda... ppl r not well informed.. they don't know wat a proper car is... they go for iPad screens and looks.. wen a car is much more than dashboards and heated seats
Comprehensive analysis of Honda India. They are missing the bus in India, hybrid is a must for Elevate and lower varients of city as you have mentioned.
Honda stands for quality and they are offering quality products with practical features. BUT the issue with Honda is they are not offering more options to indian buyers in all segments like BRV, Brio, hybrid engines.
Totally with you sir and surely tweet+tag Honda India. Importantly if they don't bring these changes sooner then the complete fall is evident, sorry to say but it's a bitter fact..
As a Honda owner & well wisher too and having similar thoughts , I 💯 Agree with everything mentioned in this video. If Honda does it all, they could still be a phoenix. Infact, I'm looking forward for an Elevate or Elevate 7 seater with tgeir hybrid powertrain.
apne bilkul sahi kaha. mere mama ke pass BR-V tha. mujhe bhi 7 seater lene ka man tha.Sochatha updated norms wala model lunga. achanak BS6 se bandh ho gaya. it was very disappointing.
Not without six airbags and engine options. For instance, if they bring WRV with 1.2L naturally aspirated engine and not price it well below Venue/Sonet/Brezza, I don't see too many buyers. Just changing external looks won't be enough. PS: I sincerely hope what you are saying happens, because I already have a Honda car in my family and have liked their cars for a long time in the past.
sir, perfectly agree with your thoughts, its a shame that Honda is not doing much for Indian market, i feel for Honda India is like a dumping ground, they feel indians have no taste or aspire for better designs or taste , take for eg. honda Elevate, the design in Asian markets are far better than that which was introduced in indian markets , i was flabbergasted by the boxy design of elevate , it is totally unfair and double standards of honda management . i feel something is fishy , specially the VP or the CEO of honda india, it is as if they are having some death wish , i am a proud owner of a honda car for over 5 years now , but slowly i am starting to feel, i should move away from this brand because the way they are treating the indian market. Sir, please take this up with the Honda cars management , i am sure some thing is fishy at the top management.
Honda team if you are watching this, just give us a strong hybrid petrol car within 15 lacs with few practical feature upgrades such as: 1) Series-hybrid engine setup 2) Ventilated seats 3) 360 camera + blind view 4) Dual zone a/c controls 5) Back seat A/c controls separate 6) Sliding blinders 7) Proper TPMS 8) HUD display 9) Type C charging, front + back 10) 6 airbags 11) All 4 Disc brakes
Someone who has driven civic for 150000 km ..the sheer class of the product is unparalleled...the best to describe Honda's attitude is it's half hearted Ness for the Indian market ..they should come with their successful international models cause that's where the Indian car market is going to ...they don't even have to go to the drawing table much ..they already have a brilliant like of models , known for its finesss and logitivity and quality
Honda City owner since 2018.... This is all rounder car and I am in love with it... In future I would like to stick with same brand but your points are genuine.. What are the options
sir panaromic sunroof destruct the structure of any car and reduce the strength of car. It disturb the safety also somewhere, hence its really good if it does not offer panaromic sunroof. 360 degree camera is not much Needed as you all the time keep looking at screen so just rear camera goes better for car. Hence I like honda elevate❤
Gagan paji, mai Citroen C3 Aircross lene ka soch raha hoon. But I am worried about their sales and their future in India. Aap please uspe ek video banao. Majhe bahut achchhi lagi C3 Aircross. Aap jaise TH-camrs companies ko aisi positive feedback denge to shayad kuch badal sakta hai.
Great observations and yes Honda is a no nonsense practical car, they need to work o features and lifestyle improvements in their cars to match with the competition I have driven Hyundai and Suzuki, however Honda engines are class apart...hope Honda management is listening...and work quickly to get the points you have highlighted to tear through its competitors sale numbers
Wow features are more important than reliability drive quality and safety. Nowadays redmi phone provides all features of samsung ultra series that doesn’t mean we should look only for features. Security reliability after sale and most importantly ride quality is top notch in honda.
Bilkul sahi...Honda seems to have lost the game. I feel Japan is getting old and hence they are layed back... Tired and do not want to think out of the box
Very truly analyzed; hope Honda listens. I had been a customer of Honda Cars since 1999 with the first gen City, Then changed to 2nd gen in 2004 and 3rd Gen 2010. Meanwhile had a Brio also for city errands. But finally after Honda started losing the plot, i shifted over to Hyundai and VW products from 2015 onwards. Often wonder why Honda has not introduced its wide range of Intn'l products, instead it discontinued some very capable products like the Jazz, WRV, BRV and Civic by just not keeping them in tune with time. If this continues, we are not far off from the time when Honda will be history in India. Very sad state of management
word to word agree with you. The upper management needs to update themselves. They are not learning from their mistakes with changing world. They cant see what has happened to Japanese electronic dominance. Its shattered by Koreans and Chinese. Same will happen to automobiles if they dont change. They should learn from Tata on how they turned round a bad quality product with negative reviews to a better one. There still may be issues with tata quality but sales have improved multifold. Its hard to believe 25L-30L SUV segment is now ruled by tata and mahindra. Even VW are slowly changing and adapting to indian market.
Yes , same questions in my mind also. They are slow movers , need aggression in decision making .All discontinued models like JAZZ BRV BRIO WRV with little changes based on customer feedback should be relaunched. High end cars CIVIC CRV can be brought back. The buying power has increased and road network is now improving next 10 years will be money making for auto co’s. Honda cars are trouble free even after 15-20 years. Their ego will bot help here as many Indians new buyer don’t know about Honda. Educate all Tier-2,3 , rural area guys about this company.
In Hyderabad pride Honda, If you ask even for small information, They will tell you to buy something else but information will not be provided. Second, Customer service is a guilt trip. The staff feels like they are the kings, and the customer should beg for good service. Overconfidence kills
Waiting for a small car like Brio, revamped amaze, more mid sized SUV, a revamped jazz, a revamped BrV, and a competitor for fortuner/ ford endeavour - All in hybrid technologies and better features as stated in ur video. Honda can again gain it's top and industry first status. In reliability, service quality and built quality it's still up there
Fully agree with you. If Honda is not changing their portfolio according to the market demands then very soon it will meet the fate same as Ford. The beginning of the end of Honda in India. Sad.
Exactly. Elevate sales is 1700 this april. Honda needs to focus on the quality. I wanted to buy elevate but after reading reviews I get to know that NVH levels are high, the material wise build quality is little poor. The bluetooth keeps disconnected again and again. Elevate sales keeps on decreasing. It was selling around 6000 cars per month but look how the sales are decreasing.
I agree with your point that Honda is sluggish with the marketing of such fantastic cars. They have left it literally to the dealers to manage the marketing. Moved to Honda last month after driving only Maruti cars for 18 years and I must say and amazed by the Honda cars, the build, transmission, the road handling, the engine.
Completely nailed it Gagan Sir. The main problem with Honda is that they take Indian customer sentiments for granted & just dump shits in the market hoping everyone will buy with no questions asked. If Tata & Mahindra can innovate, Honda why not? There lies the main point.
For sure they've taken it granted just like Ford and now see where they are. Indian consumer will show them there way out of this market
The main problem is Indian customer base which is very cost sensitive and priority is only for fuel efficiency and some useless features like panoramic sunroof, SUV like stance without all wheel drive. Honda is mainly known for their good performance engines which everyone want for a cheap price and our tax structure is not suitable for high performing bigger capacity engines. Fuel costs are also very high when compared to other Asian countries like, Philipines, Malaysia, Thailand, etc.....
All in all most of the mainstream Japanese manufacturers dont have much profit in India when compared to other Asian countries where only Suzuki is suceeding because they have the cheapest produced vehicles in Japan and India.
@@tijokurian3820 I won't say India is to that point cost sensitive. Yeah it can be true to a certain extent but see people are even buying Fortuner with 60 lakh price. Is it justified. Same for Innova as well. Honda doesn't have anything which is outright appealing to the masses.
Mahindra's innovation only resulted in wheel assembly coming off at 100kmph resulting in near fatal and at times fatal injuries to passengers. They had to recall cars. Do you ever hear this with Honda? Never. I agree Honda needs to bring good cars to India but Mahindra and Tata has a long way to go in building fundamentally well engineered cars where wheels don't come off!
Right bro. I own a City 2018. Never got a call for product feedback. Hard suspension (which got fixed in the later model), poor cabin noise insulation, dashboard rattles, old infotainment etc the list goes on...
Great insights. Last year I purchased Honda Elevate Automatic ZX. I was able to afford the top version because it was introduced as the cheapest in its segment. And, it had all the necessary standard and advance features at 15.99 lacs. A reasonable price with top notch quality. So ,if you are driving a honda you are few of those niche individuals who understand the meaning of "quality". And quality comes at a cost! Less features and good quality is the focus of Honda. Remember, Honda is not for the mass market; but for those who understand quality.
You can Very we'll go to an interview and say you own a Honda. Means, you understand Quality. You see... and that's what they are focusing.
Well, you can now clearly distinguish yourself from the mass and you don't have to say a word.
Correct, true car guys love honda
Absolutely correct assessment.
Absolutely Correct.
I have an 2007 Honda Civic, spent zero rs on any replacment in so many years.
A 17 year car running on road 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@DALBIR-dw7cx chala ke dekh lena, design a class engine a class build a class
Only if Honda management would have watched this. I guess with an MBA degree management folks lose sense of practicality at the grassroot level. I feel sorry for Honda.
Generally , MBAs are what goes wrong with a company which should be engineering focused.
But looking at honda doing good mechanically, just bad at marketing, finding a product market fit and expanding, MBAs are what they need.
Agreed on your views......but Honda is a no nonsense car....I have bought HONDA City in 2024.... and having very good experience...have seen many other reputed brands with features loaded in it..
But there are some or the other small issue keeps on coming...though the companies solve the problems...but it's very irritating....so Honda is a car for those who wants to enjoy the drive without any complaints for years...in my view..
Correct, which model you got and state of registration
@@AuguryOmen Top model Automatic..
Maharashtra registration
@@AuguryOmen top model automatic... Maharashtra
Honda just need to launch 4 models in india that they have in Thailand- WRV, HRV, BRV and CRV. But the problem with Honda is that the sales amd business is totally controlled and handled by the parent japanese officials they need to think like an indian buyer not as a japanese buyer. This same arrogant and lack of market research along with total control from the parent company resulted in the downfall of Ford, Chevy and Renault
Disagree they are thinking about Indian market as a outdated Indian car user ...that disconnects them from the market
Hondas new BRV is wow.. it must come in india❤ so good looking ❤
Honda don’t want to listen to customer feedback, learn from Kia who listened to Indian customers before launching Seltos in India and launched it with features as per customer survey. Honda is stubborn, I think this may be the last chance for Honda India. Brio discontinued, Brv discontinued, Accord discontinued, Crv discontinued, Civic discontinued, WRV discontinued. Soon Honda may be discontinued.
I wish HONDA ye video dekhe and practically Iss video ko seriously le.
Bht hi acha and realistic analysis kia h ✅
Yes someone sensible has spoken
I am using brio for last 10 years and the experience is amazing. Still now the refinement is better than fe new cars and reliability is unmatched. I am feeling sad for Honda. I don’t understand why they are not doing the needful.
12 yrs ✋🏻
It's a toy car
Maruti 800 ..Using more than 22 years
Hyundai santro using from 22 years, still running in great condition 😊
I have alto more than 20 years. So don't get overboard.
I am an automobile engineer ......driving city from last 10 years....& if i purchase next car it will be again HONDA CITY.........honda cars is for passionate people.....honda cars are so reliable.......sufficient features for daily needs.......Honda cars are mechanically so strong & efficient......Indians never respect good cars.....indian love features not engine & good transmission.........pls respect honda cars they are so good.......far better tan hyundai,maruti &kia......
For any car main is engine Reliability/performance and built quality which have in honda car.....
Being mechanically strong is not an excuse to offer outdated cars. Honda regularly updates it's cars globally but they keep on offering same model in india with limited options.
Honda had hrv since forever but some genius decided to launch civic instead of that. It took them 10 years to launch elevate and even then it's launched with just one engine option. Why can't they launch turbo option to compete with creta/ kia and vw / skoda turbo suvs. Why can't they launch a hybrid option to compete with grand vitara.
Having 100 gimmicy features in car is not necessary but having engine options is a must. With time certain features also become a necessary so you need to offer them to stay competitive.
Ford made the same mistake and had to exit
Do you service it yourself?
@@aakudev at service centre
Bro you could be a passionate driver but you fail to understand indian buyer , they are so much clever and only buy try and tested plus widely service available cars only , i mean they are buying scorpio N in thousands per month, something is very wrong with honda and that discourages the buyer
Cruise Control in Elevate is also offered only in top model
Yes, total shocker
Absolutely! It is pathetic. VX variant does not have normal cruise control
Amaze Manual has cruise control but automatic doesn't...
Their second top model would sell like hot cakes if a basic feature such as cruise control is offered in it.
Unaccepatble
Fully agree with you. Me too am waiting for Elevate with strong hybrid
I think no hybrid is coming for elevate! Only ev based on elevate is coming
In my opinion honda is not doing bad instead market is going opposite to them. They offered adas in 12.70 lakhs city. They offered the best engine and best features in city with price but people are going for suv which honda is still laging in 4m car. Its all about mindset. They will never exit india mark my words
Well same happened to Nokia..they did not do any wrong but failed....same will happen to Honda ..if they don't align to customers expectations...
@@raoragh nope, honda is not doing bad instead they are not giving gimic features, tell me a car with adas under 20 lakh. Honda gave it in honda city under 12.5 lakhs. Best engine in 15 lakhs that can beat all the cars under 15 lakhs. They lag gimic features like ventilated seats, 360 camera etc which is more preferred in india rather than safety and drivability. They are doing great apart from india. Still 4th largest seller in world. Indian audience has no knowledge of cars right nowadays. They follow trend,
@@AuguryOmenfuck don’t find points just to back Honda ! Is sunroof a safety feature instead they could have given ventilated seats ! They are offering it as an accessory same with tpms They are making us fools
Hope Honda India MD watches ur video blog
Yes sir being a City brv and wrv all three cars owner I can clearly say these cars are built to last and the dtech engine was a gem for mileage lovers vtech manual is extremely fun but....Why the CVT ? And not a good torque converter mated to a turbocharged petrol engine
Honda was the only manufacturer to offer diesel amaze with CVT it was a big big segment gap filler as still till date we crave for diesels and our family's want automatic transmission as well
Why the wrv didn't ever get a cvt ? A small thing as rear adjustable headrests in wrv are a must
I completely agree with you as I was a city and civic owner.misses in turbocharged vehicles and gearing has made me move out of Honda. Honda management should move out of the thoughts process that India is 3rd world economy. Today I buy a Crete, Vitara or seltos is because of the features offered in petrol diesel and choice of transmission
turbo charge engines ki khaamio se vaakif nahi lagte saahab 🤣🤣
thode din chaloge pta chal jaega 🤣🤣 good luck in City driving
Excellent video...u nailed it....we own Honda Accord n my heart was set on Honda however had to decide Toyota Hyrider V Hybride due to all the reasons u highlighted...and its baffling how this smart company can ignore the fastest growing economy.
I totally agree with your analysis on Honda Gagan Ji, satyanarayana yellina visakhapatnam IAF retd
Good one sir.... I purchased Amaze after searching according to my budget(under 10 lakh) for 5months...my requirements were safety, engine refinement and space... I thus moved to Amaze... But i feel.. Androis wireless carplay, 6 airbags should be there in the top model atleast...
Very very well said.. Elevate should come with Hybrid Sooner ASAP. And one Compact SUV
Honda cars are all rounder in terms of Safety, Dynamics, Ride quality, comfort, space, reliability, peace of mind and value for money from base variant but they are lacking in various aspects like No NCAP rating despite they also know both City and Elevate will score good or even 5 star rating..they just show internal crash test rating in the launch event but never send any car to GNCAP or BNCAP..I have suggested them multiple times on twitter but no response..
They are always late to the party but always lack behind what the customer demands..
I think they also know that their Sub4m Compact Suv won't survive in the competition because of cars like Nexon,Xuv 3XO,Sonet which already set a benchmark & they won't be able to provide more features than these cars..
But we all know honda has potential which can disrupt the competition if they learnt from their mistakes and launch Compact Suv like WRV and BRV which will surely help them to gain 15k numbers.
We believe in you Honda but try to compete with the competition not with yourself.
Honda is best of all worlds.. educated ppl ki 1st choice hai Honda
I have watched several Honda City YT accident videos, which prove the sturdiness of car in withstanding impact, despite lack of crash test certificates..(.btw am a City 2023 model owner)❤.
Gagan ji
Honda still considers India a developing country and Indians only consideration is mileage.
Your video should be an Eye opener for Honda India and hope they will change their attitude towards India and consider Indian market to be niche and aspiring and change fast for the better.
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I can't agree more. Beautifully explained Honda Cars. It will be extremely sad to loose Honda from Indian market.
Perfect assessment... Honda had an upper hand in case of reliability and had it brought latest technology in engine tuning and suspension it wud have ruled
Agree completely. I'm not even keen on lifestyle features, but six airbags and 1L turbo-charged engines are big misses, considering their pricing.
I was waiting for the new WRV but it seems they'll bring it with 1.2L naturally aspirated engine, the same one used in Amaze and I'm reconsidering. Again, expected pricing at 9-13 lacs with lesser features and no engine options, isn't going to get them market share.
kudos that you acknowledged that honda is in its last era in india and its almost maybe over for honda.
Really agree with u sir. I also own amaze top model since 2022 and looking forward mid size suv or suv .love these honda engines but lack of punch or power can't go for elevate. They must bring turbo engines. Even honda customer loosing faith in brand because only three options to choose. Feeling bad for such a top class brand a one engines 😢😢😢😢
I always like your honest reviews ji, Fully in sync with your thoughts, you are giving free advise to HONDA. Hope Honda is listening , i am a HONDA customer since 2004, they need to up the game. why are they not bringing RAV 4 to India?
Good analysis. Honda should take advantage of this , otherwise they may loose the present 2 percentage market share also. Competition is everywhere. Gone are the days to proclaim old Dynasty. Now the business is different. Otherwise,like Ford ,honda will also go.
The main issue with Honda is overconfidence and arrogance, spare parts not available after market and high price. These are the reason Honda is going down.
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Agreed
Even Honda showrooms r not providing theirs parts on time.🤬🤬
I am a Honda customer and will not remain a Honda customer for exactly this reason
Kia or hyundai cannot show even confidence because of the quality of cars. Look at UAE market, Korean cars are still seen as cheap alternatives for Japanese cars.. now taken over by Chinese actually. No Japanese cars offer 5 year buy back policy...they do it since their cars don't last for 5 years....
Sir , I can clearly see your love for Honda Cars and the facts you have highlighted are very true.Honda Should upgrade tgeir cars eith more features with price similar to their competitors
I completely agree with you. Honda's pricing high with less features though their engines are very good but customers also want latest features so they avoid to purchase Honda cars. I have Jazz 2017 model. It's very good car but costly also.
Gagan bhai, you are spot on. Honda should immediately bring in atleast 5-6 features which is missing in Elevate like Choice of Engines ICE/Hybrid/Turbo, Ventilated front seats, 360 degree camera, Panoramic Sunroof, ADAS 2.0, Electronic seat adjustment... This will give Cretas, Seltoss... a run for their money.
Gagan Bhai.
Honda aise hi chalegi. They won't change. After seeing so much of changes in the Market trend their Indian management is not able to maneuver their Japanese team' on this.
They still haven't learnt from Maruti. Hyundai. Tata and now Mahindra as examples
Before buying XUV 300; I contacted to Honda showroom.. They didn't seems to be interested in selling cars.. No discount, no follow-up calls, No features explaination... Even said we will make it available will be biggest help we can do..
Which city. I visited many showrooms in last five years for me or my friends but never faced this attitude in any showrooms in Telangana or Andhrapradesh
They were not passionate at the showroom; unlike Hyundai
@@Rinking123 In Haryana
And how do feel after owning a xuv300?
Today visited Honda showroom for the test drive of Honda City Hybrid. Except for Ride and space inside the car (maybe blind spot camera) really disappointed with it. Even my friend who came along with me, were greatly disappointed after hearing 25 Lakhs on road with basic features. And car with almost half the price will get you ventilated seats, power adjustment for driver seats. I am sucker for great sedans. But, I couldn't digest the fact that basic feature set for that price. My friend who came along with me got shocked to know that Honda having to sell just 4 cars ( technically 3! ). I was boasting about Honda being the premium brand infront of her, but today its literally got shattered 😢. If the durability and reliability being the USP of Honda, what are the other Japanese brands for ??
Not sure what Honda was thinking of...
Sare points sahi hai aapke, bas Honda ke bachav me itna hi kahana hai ki reliability durability to hai hi comfort hai aur ek accha ADAS hai, bas nam ka nhi.
Sach kahe to features ek lalach hai jitna ho itana kam lagta hai, electronic element jitna Kam ho utana sukoon rahta hai. Parents ke jamane ki purani tv 20-20 years se chal Rahi hai, aur Aaj ki TV 5 years me hi dhokha Dene lagti hai😂
All features that u r talking about are very less compared to drive reliability and built quality of honda cars. They quality cruise it offers is still best in India. Features given in 15 lac rs car of other brand cannot be compared with hondas reliability. Your friend wants redmi and u tried explaining him one plus or say samsung ultra
Honda's though knee room is good but under thigh support is bad ..front seats movement is limited to increase knee room for rear seats and steering adjustable but during ingress/egress touches the knees when set properly and Ac cooling is decent at Best not chilly as Mahindra and Toyota or even Tata.Engine NA is good but only performs at higher rpms in real world only mid range matters ..
Brv and wrv can be game changers. Enhance the portfolio!
very well made compliation of questions.. @HONDACARSINDIA please address this. You are making cars with such a good margin and profits why just stay with reliability factor when you are show your brand value..
Booked elevate VX CVT and waited for 2 months and but after again checking the car with family, rear seat comfort is bad for 3 people and no cruise control. So cancelled elevate which is 18 lakhs and bought powerful xuv300...the saved money can be used as fuel expenses. Totally happy😂
I have been driving honda city for 15 yrs and decided to buy a new car and taken a test drive for Honda elevate. The suspension is not good. Engine sound inside the cabin is disturbing. This is compared with creta.😊
They know only to charge premium on their brand name. Now that they have compromised on quality, still they want premium, who will give it? Watch their service costs.
They forgot, why their brand was initially appreciated, what's the reason, comfort,and quality...at price but now they forgot the first two
Low Ground clearance is the biggest problems in their sedans. It's really a deal breaker for a 1st hand car
I am a owner of Elevate ZX CVT for six months, purchased at the best in class introductory offer. It is a full necessary features vehicle and includes Honda Sensing. The fancy features which are not provided jacking up the cost is not ordinarily required. The car ownership both in city and highway is excellent, though mileage in bumper to bumper city traffic is less.
How much you’re getting in bumper to bumper traffic?
Had booked an elevate. The features in each trim level and price difference and choice of necessary features/absence of same made me cancel my booking. Don't think company honchos take Indian customers seriously now. May be they think they don't owe Indian customers what they offer outside. May be govt policy too might have helped them ignore these.
In tropical Kerala I dont need a sun roof, but need automatic with folding OVRM all.disk brakes and six air bags for which I must opt for top.model with ADAS which in Indian roads are still confusing. Comparing with other.models I found the options very pricy and hence moved away.
Which car you brought then
@@akhandvlogs9728 went for a kia sonnet diesl automatic
Is Honda india planning to launch Malasia spec WRV under 4m length with city platform like upcoming Amaze
I desperately wanted to buy Amaze . I had 12 yrs old DZIRE (diesel). Since I live in Delhi NCR government has become strict on diesel cars. I could not wait for amaze and bought tata nexon today only. If honda would have given 6 airbags like other cars I would definitely have bought amaze today.
I'm waiting for new launch
Don't you think foreign OEMs are not being aggressive towards India because of the way passenger cars are taxed.
Correct
Also the way Indian consumers behave 😂
Like they always decide to go with Suzuki 😅
@@sudhirgovilkar1280they go after Tata, Mahindra, Hyundai, toyota and Kia also who understand the customer needs and update their products accordingly.
@@abhishekjain3213 Have you ever used Honda cars? Go, try and feel it... You'll fall in love immediately.
I'm using Honda Amaze VX CVT Elite edition, they're giving me CVT gearbox with paddle shifters, iVTEC 4 cylinder refined, noisless and smooth engine, 4 stars safety with ACE body structure, 420 litres of boot space, ample leg room with minimum hump in second row, Keyless entry, Auto ORVM, Auto headlights, Leatherette seat covers, good quality materials, not hanky fanky but got smooth alpine make 7" display supporting wired Android auto/Apple Carplay/ Web link with zero lags, wireless charger, central arm rest with storage, powerfull AC, etc.
No other manufacturers are giving such kind of specs in sub 4 meters sedan cars or at that price range.
CVT with paddle shifters features are like cherries on the top of the cake.
Then why kia became so successful 😂with this logic 👿
Gagan aapne sahi bola honda cars ke baare mein ause hi information share karte rahiye
All points are very related to current issues with Honda in India,. Used Brio it was great, currently using Amaze & City, It's excellent.
Honda seriously need good strategists for Indian market.
You are just spot on... You analysis has always been great... Very very indepth knowledge... And you are impartial... I own Amaze 2019...I thought of upgrading to City, not Elevate ... But now I am seriously thinking of shifting from Honda..... Hope Honda management comes to know about your observation... I am still a Honda lover...
"why is Honda losing the plot??" .. absolutely correctly said .. its so baffling actually ... it's like honda cars india has given up ... get some sensible heads at the higher ups of honda cars india
Yes I fully agree. Iam using JAZZ S variant since 2016. It’s almost eight years. Now they do not have varieties and are left out with only three models. As clearly thought by you iam too apprehensive that they may prove dark horse in leaving India or perhaps planning so.
Atleast Honda dosent rust like TATA.
Honda dosent goes to service center every week (like tata MAHINDRA)
Honda's part quality is far better than 3rd class brand TATA, MAHINDRA.
Honda's reliability is 100 years ahead than TATA, MAHINDRA.
Reliability and Durability, unknown terms for TATA, MAHINDRA.
Term Refinement, Unknown for both Tata, Mahindra.
Overall TATA, MAHINDRA 3rd class, worst, cheap quality brands in the world.
Tu apni alto theek se chala bhai 😂
@@gauravsahasrabudhe231 alto is reliable than Rust TATA, MAHINDRA.
Alto has better service assist than Rust TATA, MAHINDRA. 😁😁
Your brain has also rusted just like TATA, MAHINDRA
When will you upgrade Mr Gagan and which car you are planning to go for in 2024? Can you please make a video of Kia Carens premium optional or prestige plus iMT
iMT is such a waste and is now discarded. pls buy AMT or CVT
I have 10 years old Amaze,no nonsense great car.
In this video I am absolutely agree with your each and every point.
I just can't understand,what we are wanting from Honda,the management is not considered since so many years and launching new models so lately without features.
I’m interested in buying Amaze; I am looking for a car with more airbags and 360 degrees camera. Will the Honda management listen? I am not interested in sunroof.
Absolutely correct sir ! I am using honda brio. Awesome car
I just purchased a used Honda BRV yesterday.. have seen tons of reviews. Its super spacious in its segment and very practical car. Its a true Multi Purpose Vehicle
Service network and open market availablity of spare parts is the most crucial aspect to succeed in India
Really impressed with your observations , so perfect !
Good points. I too switched my consideration from Honda Amaze top automatic variant to Toyota Glanza. Better specs and safety features as well.
Amaze is safer than glanza in built quality. But glanza again has 6 airbags and 360 camera in top model. Is 360 camera useful enough to consider glanza ?
I'm also a honda owner during the last 8 years. Sir, I also agreed with you. HONDA manager should watch this video and review their business strategy in the Indian market.
You are 100% correct. Honda should take initiative to regain glory.Must bring Honda BRV Also.
Sir, Observation bilkul Sahi Hai, Lekin down the line ek cheez rok rahi hai, Jo mujhe lagti hai Bahot saalau se, Cost effectiveness, Honda Cars Competative pricing me nahi bech sakti, Isiliyeah compition me rehne ke liyeah Hona Cars me Features ki Cost cutting Hoti hai...
I have been driving a Honda for nearly 9 yrs ...the car handling and the engine is amazing, and still I will choose a Honda over many other cars... Features are thrown in when they are not confident of the car, if the car's body, engine and performance are good then features can always be added !
Indian car buyers clearly lack understanding of the term quality. But at the same time, Honda also takes the blame for not innovating according to emerging trends and desires. One major suicidal move was the decision to do away with the diesel engine. Secondly, Honda's decision to go along with a a ridiculously chrome heavy front looks which looks just the same for its sedan line up, is great turn off. It deprives a model of its individual appeal. Honda also needs to be a lot more committed to it's model line up and its customers. For all it may try, Honda will never really be able to explain why it withdrew the fantastic CRV. And why something like the Honda WRV was discontinued. And yes, nit having a turbo charger is like shooting yourself in the feet!
i can understand ur frustration n so do i.. i m a big fan of Honda n i have honda City…. civic n accord was by childhood dream but now those dreamzz hve evaporated long back..
My DAD frequently travels to Europe n north America and always insist me to buy CRV coz every American have them well. we dont hve CRV nor we hve civic n either Indian youth hve any excitement towards Honda
excitement is there for Honda... ppl r not well informed.. they don't know wat a proper car is... they go for iPad screens and looks.. wen a car is much more than dashboards and heated seats
Comprehensive analysis of Honda India. They are missing the bus in India, hybrid is a must for Elevate and lower varients of city as you have mentioned.
They are already giving 2 cameras in VX and ZX variants of Elevate, what it takes to add 2 more cameras and provide software update.
U r ok.
I m also interested in purchasing Elevate or City. But in a duel mind.
Go for elevate - it is great car if you don't mind about all the bells and whistles.
Honda stands for quality and they are offering quality products with practical features. BUT the issue with Honda is they are not offering more options to indian buyers in all segments like BRV, Brio, hybrid engines.
Totally with you sir and surely tweet+tag Honda India. Importantly if they don't bring these changes sooner then the complete fall is evident, sorry to say but it's a bitter fact..
As a Honda owner & well wisher too and having similar thoughts , I 💯 Agree with everything mentioned in this video. If Honda does it all, they could still be a phoenix. Infact, I'm looking forward for an Elevate or Elevate 7 seater with tgeir hybrid powertrain.
Agree to your suggestion...honda lags market by many years...I m using honda city zx for 18 years & can't find anything better
apne bilkul sahi kaha. mere mama ke pass BR-V tha. mujhe bhi 7 seater lene ka man tha.Sochatha updated norms wala model lunga. achanak BS6 se bandh ho gaya. it was very disappointing.
Honda is very much alive , next 12 months will be a game changer for Honda...
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Not without six airbags and engine options. For instance, if they bring WRV with 1.2L naturally aspirated engine and not price it well below Venue/Sonet/Brezza, I don't see too many buyers. Just changing external looks won't be enough.
PS: I sincerely hope what you are saying happens, because I already have a Honda car in my family and have liked their cars for a long time in the past.
Ghanta
Honda management should cop up with the present needs otherwise time is not far for them to pack out from India.
sir, perfectly agree with your thoughts, its a shame that Honda is not doing much for Indian market, i feel for Honda India is like a dumping ground, they feel indians have no taste or aspire for better designs or taste , take for eg. honda Elevate, the design in Asian markets are far better than that which was introduced in indian markets , i was flabbergasted by the boxy design of elevate , it is totally unfair and double standards of honda management . i feel something is fishy , specially the VP or the CEO of honda india, it is as if they are having some death wish , i am a proud owner of a honda car for over 5 years now , but slowly i am starting to feel, i should move away from this brand because the way they are treating the indian market. Sir, please take this up with the Honda cars management , i am sure some thing is fishy at the top management.
Honda will not concentrate minimum features also at all. In base model of amaze no music system, they should concentrate on features
Honda team if you are watching this, just give us a strong hybrid petrol car within 15 lacs with few practical feature upgrades such as:
1) Series-hybrid engine setup
2) Ventilated seats
3) 360 camera + blind view
4) Dual zone a/c controls
5) Back seat A/c controls separate
6) Sliding blinders
7) Proper TPMS
8) HUD display
9) Type C charging, front + back
10) 6 airbags
11) All 4 Disc brakes
I totally agree with you , you hit the nail on the head .
Someone who has driven civic for 150000 km ..the sheer class of the product is unparalleled...the best to describe Honda's attitude is it's half hearted Ness for the Indian market ..they should come with their successful international models cause that's where the Indian car market is going to ...they don't even have to go to the drawing table much ..they already have a brilliant like of models , known for its finesss and logitivity and quality
Honda City owner since 2018....
This is all rounder car and I am in love with it...
In future I would like to stick with same brand but your points are genuine..
What are the options
sir panaromic sunroof destruct the structure of any car and reduce the strength of car. It disturb the safety also somewhere, hence its really good if it does not offer panaromic sunroof.
360 degree camera is not much
Needed as you all the time keep looking at screen so just rear camera goes better for car.
Hence I like honda elevate❤
Gagan paji, mai Citroen C3 Aircross lene ka soch raha hoon. But I am worried about their sales and their future in India. Aap please uspe ek video banao. Majhe bahut achchhi lagi C3 Aircross. Aap jaise TH-camrs companies ko aisi positive feedback denge to shayad kuch badal sakta hai.
Mere padosi k paas hai Citroen aircross power full engine hai bhai...punchy hai... suspension mst hai ...
I want to purchase Honda Elevate ZX Manual. What do you suggest
I have booked my Elevate ZX MT Meteoroid Grey.
Great observations and yes Honda is a no nonsense practical car, they need to work o features and lifestyle improvements in their cars to match with the competition
I have driven Hyundai and Suzuki, however Honda engines are class apart...hope Honda management is listening...and work quickly to get the points you have highlighted to tear through its competitors sale numbers
Correct sir, I was also expecting panaromic sunroof. Because of small sunroof I rejected Elevate.
kya karoge panaromic sunroof ka? India mei ye feature bas ek gimmick hai
I want a GDI engine for performance but marketing staff says Honda will not offer third party product
Wow features are more important than reliability drive quality and safety. Nowadays redmi phone provides all features of samsung ultra series that doesn’t mean we should look only for features. Security reliability after sale and most importantly ride quality is top notch in honda.
Bilkul sahi...Honda seems to have lost the game. I feel Japan is getting old and hence they are layed back... Tired and do not want to think out of the box
Very truly analyzed; hope Honda listens.
I had been a customer of Honda Cars since 1999 with the first gen City, Then changed to 2nd gen in 2004 and 3rd Gen 2010. Meanwhile had a Brio also for city errands. But finally after Honda started losing the plot, i shifted over to Hyundai and VW products from 2015 onwards. Often wonder why Honda has not introduced its wide range of Intn'l products, instead it discontinued some very capable products like the Jazz, WRV, BRV and Civic by just not keeping them in tune with time. If this continues, we are not far off from the time when Honda will be history in India. Very sad state of management
word to word agree with you. The upper management needs to update themselves. They are not learning from their mistakes with changing world. They cant see what has happened to Japanese electronic dominance. Its shattered by Koreans and Chinese. Same will happen to automobiles if they dont change. They should learn from Tata on how they turned round a bad quality product with negative reviews to a better one. There still may be issues with tata quality but sales have improved multifold. Its hard to believe 25L-30L SUV segment is now ruled by tata and mahindra. Even VW are slowly changing and adapting to indian market.
Yes , same questions in my mind also. They are slow movers , need aggression in decision making .All discontinued models like JAZZ BRV BRIO WRV with little changes based on customer feedback should be relaunched.
High end cars CIVIC CRV can be brought back.
The buying power has increased and road network is now improving next 10 years will be money making for auto co’s.
Honda cars are trouble free even after 15-20 years.
Their ego will bot help here as many Indians new buyer don’t know about Honda.
Educate all Tier-2,3 , rural area guys about this company.
In Hyderabad pride Honda,
If you ask even for small information, They will tell you to buy something else but information will not be provided.
Second, Customer service is a guilt trip.
The staff feels like they are the kings, and the customer should beg for good service.
Overconfidence kills
Waiting for a small car like Brio, revamped amaze, more mid sized SUV, a revamped jazz, a revamped BrV, and a competitor for fortuner/ ford endeavour - All in hybrid technologies and better features as stated in ur video. Honda can again gain it's top and industry first status. In reliability, service quality and built quality it's still up there
Fully agree with you.
If Honda is not changing their portfolio according to the market demands then very soon it will meet the fate same as Ford.
The beginning of the end of Honda in India. Sad.
Exactly. Elevate sales is 1700 this april. Honda needs to focus on the quality. I wanted to buy elevate but after reading reviews I get to know that NVH levels are high, the material wise build quality is little poor. The bluetooth keeps disconnected again and again.
Elevate sales keeps on decreasing. It was selling around 6000 cars per month but look how the sales are decreasing.
This has come from the heart of true Honda lover... ❤
I agree with your point that Honda is sluggish with the marketing of such fantastic cars. They have left it literally to the dealers to manage the marketing. Moved to Honda last month after driving only Maruti cars for 18 years and I must say and amazed by the Honda cars, the build, transmission, the road handling, the engine.