This video was recorded at 6 o'clock, on a very cold December morning. I was already out before dawn, so I caught a lot of cold. You can hear it in my voice the effects of a very humid and cold morning. You might want to turn on the subtitles on this one hehe.
@@random120 No problem, I've said this so many times before that I think I should probably make a video explaining it hehe. I pronounce "Oden", it is the Swedish pronounciation of Othin, and the one I'm more familiar with. I was introduced to "Oden" before knowing the Old Norse pronounciation "Óðinn".
I am a pagan, my father (casually) practiced Asatru in the late 90s early 00s, when I was a child (for the record, I do not practice Asatru). I remember having shrines to Odin and Thor in the house, hearing their myths before bedtime, etc. He eventually left that path to become agnostic/athiest (side note: the day he openly expressed that he no longer believed in the gods, there was a massive thunderstorm that caused damage to our neighborhood, I fully believe it was Thor haha). Odin has been a pretty central symbolic figure in my life for as long as I can remember. Fast forward into my adulthood, I developed breast cancer at 25 years old (I have a rare genetic mutation). The night before my mastectomy, I was so afraid. I've never felt fear like that before. I had a dream that Odin visited me and shared with me the story of how he hung from the world tree. I saw myself hanging from the world tree. It was a dark and terrifying experience, but through that dream, I found an unexpected strength to face the surgery and the healing process. It was painful and probably the worst experience of my life, but through the darkness of that experience I found illumination. In that moment, I felt that the lessons of Odin were clearer to me than ever before. My point in sharing this story is that your interpretation of Odin in this video resonates with my own experiences so deeply. Same with the other videos I've seen from you. I see that you /know/ these gods and their lore with a special kind of intimacy. It's really amazing and I love your content :)
@@treverlewis5094 Enlightenment isn't "power", it literally _IS_ "The Good". What can it corrupt? Knowledge of Self. Knowledge of Universe. Knowledge of the relationship between the two. If the conclusion you come to is NOT Love, than you failed the grab, didn't get the "enlightenment" and will not have the means or probably inclination to do anything warranting your dark "Warning". Prolly just hang from wounds for another few (time?)s. Try for the Epiphany again, the worthless, mud-caked chips of stone and broken bone "treasure" that some of us morons will literally die to hold. No one's gonna enslave mankind from Odin's path, brother.
@@Lu11abi it's only when Knowledge is gained and understanding of them which is Wisdom that these things are Good, in a conventional sense Otherwise, if one were to peek It without Knowledge or Wisdom or both, one shall be render insane or fall into despair Hence, wise men conceal their knowledge, only telling them when those that wishes to know are sufficient enough to earn it....which these learners have already known if they have been sufficient for it....
Of all the gods, Odin intrigued me the most. I see his ravens when I’m out wandering around and I feel as though he is watching me. Maybe I’m a fool but it’s interesting nonetheless
I have the same experience occasionally. It is hard to describe to non-pagans but it’s something you just know when you see them/him watching you. I wonder if the myths are based on the same experiences people had thousands of years ago?
This is what I've been trying to tell other Asatru people. I honestly dont think you can possibly follow down a path hailing Odin without knowing the evil things he's done. I have and I accept it. I looked at the horrid things Odin has done and look at the evil deeds I've done. But when I look back at myself I wouldn't say I am evil. It's a sense of understanding that nobody is good or evil. With everything Odin has done whether you call it good or evil it had a purpose that led to a positive outcome for him and his tribe. It's a scary lesson to learn if you have to be the leader of anything. Sometimes you have to do fucked up shit for the benefit of the tribe. Even if the action only benefits you. The things you might gain could be useful in the future.
I agree. It comes down to ethics. Would I steal to feed my starving family? Yes. Would I kill to kill to protect my family and myself? Yes. It is drawing a line in the dirt. Can we draw a line without crossing someone elses line? No.
I'm an African American Christian male, but I find paganism and Norse history very interesting. Odin's story is very inspiring to me and as a Christian I don't worship any pagan gods, but I use Odin's story as a philosophy to get through and get the most out of life.
We all make our choices, but what is important is that we learn from them. Whichever paths we choose, it's important to keep walking forward straight to acquire more wisdom, so we can become better versions of our past-selves. And may our wisdom never diminishes, and may it help others to become more knowledgeble and better, hehe.
Odin is as capricious and changing as human nature itself is. He is Wise Counsel, and Trickster. Ready always to take an advantage. A Turner of deeds to his purpose. He is Honor and Treachery. One who searches, and finds never quite enough. Ever learning, ever changing. He is what we all are at our core.
When you really look at things you realize he and Loki aren't all that different, but he had better PR. There is a reason Odin made him his blood brother at one point.
@@moralityisnotsubjective5 They're also distant cousins, and some sources claim they are foster brothers meaning Odin's parents probably adopted Loki at one point or another.
I view Odin as a shaman. I think of him as god of the dead. Leading the Wild Hunt with Holda. Magic, runes, galdr. I think of Odin in these rolls more than the All Father and a king or lord. He will let you fall into madness if you ask him for what you want. He is not a god of let's make this sunshine and roses.
Plus, without going through darkness, how would one know light?? Light doesn't raise light, darkness gives way to light, like light gives way to darkness. It's an never ending dance.. The goal, is to at least balance it. Looking at the world today,, it's not difficult to see which way the scale is tipping.
As my interpretation, odin is our mind, and the myths in the poetic edda are riddles that if interpreted correctly, you achieve wisdom and spiritual enrichment. Thinking that the gods are physical is spiritual darkness, the gods are not physical or living in another world, they are here, they represent nature, they represent truth, strength, wisdom, gravity, etc. Odin (our mind) it's known as many names. The saver, the doomer, the corrupt, the just. We must act like the gods in order to be the best version of ourselves.
White Viking brothers!!! You want to know who Odin is? I have a feeling somewhere in between 7th-9th century AD. The Norse religion & Christianity got mixed up with who he was possibly? Check this out! Esus is another name for Odin. The word Esus. Add a "J" that was later introduced into the Anglo Saxon English alphabet in the 17th century. What do you have when you add- "J" with Esus? ;) romecorruptedchristianity.wordpress.com/2013/07/09/esus-and-jesus-coincidence-the-trinity-of-esus/
David Fye II Jesus comes from ieoseous and esus comes from esus. Also, no one calls Odin esus, as esus is a Gaulish quasi-iteration of their common ancestral god
@Jarl William where the fuck you read that bullshit? Lol you do realize the poetic edda are RIDDLES not to be taken literally right? That's why druids (midwives of the mind) explained these myths to people. NEVER i have read or heard of "gods killing mortals just for killing them" that's big bullshit. I recall "god" murdering children in his "honor" and demanding sacrifices, also demanding acceptance and "love" only for him, if not, he will murder you brutally and torture you for eternity.
So well said in this video. Many years ago I set up a hearg/horgr to the Aesir and Vanir under a very old oak tree, deep into the woods/wald . When I dedicated it to Woden/Othin, two crows (cousins of ravens) landed in the old oak tree and watched every move I made that day.
Odin is more relatable. Then any other god. A pure experience of all things. The all father embraces every aspect. Mischief, honor, ferocity and sacrifice. Death and life. Destruction and ambition.
You can kind of link these ideas of Odin with the Left Hand Path in many of its aspects, and it kind of shows how easily Odin is taken up as one of the gods of the Left Hand Path. And why not? Odin one of the few deities around who, in some fairly neat but not exact ways, corresponds to the Lucifer archetype that we're familiar with in many ways. Sure he's typecast as the leader of the forces of order, but he's also the god of a chaotic, almost Bacchic mode of divine inspiration, Odr (it's in his namesake, even), he's a patron of outlaws and non-conformists, practices a form of magic that is considered taboo for men to practice, and sacrifices himself for the pursuit of knowledge. Even his whole deal regarding Ragnarok, and the fact that he's gaining knowledge for the sake of avoiding his inevitable demise at Ragnarok, can be seen in terms of cultivating knowledge in order to fight, change or even defy fate.
Harger: This is an example of your almost unique ability to correctly and insigthfully express the ancient religion in the context of the people of the time. Well done.
I met Odin in the woods once, He appeared to me as an old man, I was 28 years young and strong and I feared nothing unto death. But when this old man was walking toward me, I became very fearful and I could not control it. He told me many things about myself that no one else could know, and things about myself that I did not know. His words toward me was very harsh with no mercy, scolding me and I was on my knees crippled with fear unable to even speak. He told me, "Get up and stop pitying yourself." Then he walked into the woods and disappeared. To this day I still don't understand that experience. No! I was not high on drugs or Alcohol.
Hans Ruppertz: you know i have heard of many stories of women walking home late at night from work alone, decided to take a short cut through a lit up park or a well known park, enough for them to feel somewhat comfortable at the time then they experience a ghost encounter in which a specter or apparition scares and terrorises the shit out of them and they run away and go straight home. Then the next day on the news another woman was raped walking from the bus or train through the same park.......hours after the women who had a ghostly encounter. Maybe the divine spirits and gods can only wake up the most stubborn of us through such harsh ways.....I mean human parents are capable of the same thing, makes me really re think the whole good and evil thing.... Ohh well Skol! as long as you were not physically attacked or being haunted, all ended well after a while right?
@Hanz Ruppertz: There is also anther norse pagan on youtube, i wish i had subscribed at the time but her experience seeking odin through astral projection and meditation, and her journey where she wanted to talk to Odin and meet him, and she kept on running into different forks in the road she was on and distractions, but she kept on focucing on Odin and finally found him. Now she claimed from her experience that it seemed Odin had put those distractions as a test to see if she was serious about reaching out to him. She also spoke about how every question she had for him he had asked her in return, but she flet like she had the answer already in her and odin was like asking her to get her to seek out more or think a different way. It appears from many accounts that Odin is tough love, but also compassionate but also a little tricky.....hey im no better right? She described him as this old man wanderer with one eye and a walking stick and a round brimed pointyish type hat.
@@TerfBashingMFer8021 Skoll! I am still trying to figure all this information out, I don't know anymore than you do. If you have anymore information on the subject, please let me know.
This brought up a lot of “dark”, unpleasant emotions in me. I feel angry. Beneath it I feel sadness. The trickster energy of this deity, of life, irritates me. It is coyotes for my people. El borrado. The eraser. Chaos is something I resent. And also something I must integrate, accept, surrender to? Going to write. Journal fury! Thanks for this.
This is absolutely amazing. It is everything I have felt about Odin since starting down this path. Seeing him as all light just didn't feel right because of his stories. Thanks for sharing this video, it helped me see that my feelings may not be so wrong after all.
I love your content Arith ❤ Your channel always feels like a good place to go for a grounded and realistic view of Nordic mythology concepts. Thank you!
It's only hard for us to comprehend the nature of the norse Gods if we look at them through the prism of the abrahamic faiths. If, however, we understand Odin and other Gods as we understand ourselves and the behaviour of the human species then it makes alot more sense. I am drawn to the pagan Gods because of their faults, weakness and vulnerabilities. Good video, very informative.
Man, great insight. Seen this maybe a year or so ago.. Really, if we're in the image of our gods, then they to went through things we go through and must still go through to maybe eventually become centered.. I grew up only hearing of the Christian faith, through the years questioning things, beginning to listen to other beliefs, iam noticing alot of similarities. Our gods walked the walk, and have left behind lessons to help guide us,, to eventually overcome anything and have control over all our senses. Everyday it seems we learn something new. Those who question life and ask themselves why certain things are the way they are. For instance, iam a peaceful man, I treat others with respect they show me, sometimes ignoring ignorance or joking back,, but what gives another man, power over me, to make him think he can stop me,, ask me dumb questions, if I question his authority, he tries to throw me in a cage?? Why?? Is no better than me..😁
This video has been most amazing. There are very few people even talking about let alone understanding non-dual ways of thinking out there. My background is mostly in Daoism/Zen/Hinduism, I've been getting more into Norse spirituality as of late, and this was extremely fascinating. Very realized stuff here. Very very good stuff.
I really respect the impartial knowledge you have to share, this video as well as your video on thursatru and the sinister path have had a large influence on how i follow the Odinic path. I initially thought that in nondualism; embracing my addiction & self destructive behavior would lead me to great enlightenment, which it sort of did; but it also lead me too realize that with the absence of order, chaos & darkness dominated my life; it almost broke me. Until i realised that it wasn't about embracing the chaos, but coming to realize that chaos around and within me has the limitless potential to create, just as it has the same limitless potential for destruction without order. Its a matter of learning to work with it by establishing and structure to further grow and create. I try to stay faithful too tribalism; but my path to following Odin is heavily influenced by thursatru as well; i know this path will continue to be an uneasy one, but i am finally reshaping the chaos within me because i have finally found order and purpose, I've revived my love to relentlessly pursue wisdom, ive learned to accept the nature of events and take accountability of my consequences make the best out of it. "Strength in the body Growth in the earth" Thank you Arith
Woden is our will to power through wisdom. When I make offering to the Gods and Ancestors for my family I always begin with the words "Woden be the wisdom in my mind with which I guide my family. "
Also, in Vedic mythology ravens/crows are considered to be vehicles for Saturn, who’s also considered to be one of the 11 Rudras (Shiva being another). Interesting eh!
Sorry for being 2 years late but this is the first time I'm hearing Shani ( Vedic/ Hindu version of Saturn) being considered one of the Rudras. So could you please provide any scriptural reference? But yes crows and ravens are Shani's vehicle definitely. Although I've heard Shani's brother Yama/ Kala has been mentioned as a Rudra rarely. Anyway Shiva is the chief of Rudras that much is certain. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudras
Good stuff, I think behind Odins stories are hidden messages it would be a mistake to take them at face value as “bad” “evil” and devious. They are there for us to untangle and use to unlock the mysteries. Great info as always.
When i first started using opioids i used to think," could it be possible for a human consciousness to feel great pleasure for ever?" "Why does everyone think its wrong to feel great? I eventually learned that no, u cant feel real pleasure without pain. You always need contrast. There is a special significance about pain/suffering and struggle. Truth is a double edged blade.
Arith this is so strange.I wrote a story about this ages ago,now it makes so much sense .i gotta be crossroad between the two. Now I get myself better.Thank you
Dear Arith Thanks a lot for this wonderful video. I would like to add another aspect though. By slaying Ymir and creating Midgard Odin manifests a reality that is to his liking but due to the laws of nature (the Norns live directly on Yggdrasil not in one of the 9 worlds) everything that comes into existence has to decay and end at some point. Now since we are all part of Midgard and most of Odin’s unsavory acts are aimed at staving off or even preventing Ragnarök it could be argued that while he obviously does these things to gain knowledge and power, he also does them to actually save the world, well his world of course. I think in the light of the views you’ve presented in this video this adds even more tension to the fascinating figure called Allfather, Bölverkr, Fjölnir… well you get my drift…
Although raised in a judeo christian family I had always been drawn toward paganism and odin since a very young age. Ive never associated odin with jehova I have always been able to see the differences. As I've grown older I realise my relationship with odin has shown through my own sacrifices for wisdom and self improvement. I've always looked at self sacrifice as giving up a part of your life for the better. Not suicide. To me its like quitting smoking cigarettes not doing drugs or drinking moderately stop hanging around a rough crowd. I truly have gone through dark times and come out the other end a better stronger wiser. Symbolicly sacrificing an eye to see the world in a different way to focus on what matters. Sometimes i feel like a completely different person than I was 5 years ago. Since being able to look back and relate my transformation with characteristics of Odin its helped me stay on my path of spiritual rediscovery. It's not uncommon for me to see two ravens about while out walking. This helps me feel closer to odin like hes watching my progress. Since stumbling upon your channel a few weeks ago I knew right away you have knowledge far greater than almost anyone on TH-cam or any video I've watched about the gods, old ways, runes. and I have learned alot from you. You do so much more than just read stanzas from the Eddas. And I Thank you for that. You are a great teacher. Please continue to do what you do friend.
A excellent summary and (finally) addressing the pitfalls of dualistic projection in interpreting the past of our ancestors (regardless of their origins!)
Very interesting video, and definitively made me think a lot. Simply put, two things can be true at once. On one hand, in the Havamal we get a fatherly figure who gives solid advice on proper conduct, honour, and even love and romance. He goes out of his way to test the honour and good deeds of others, and often shows up as a mentor. He has gone to incredible lengths not just to learn, but to teach, and often puts himself in harms way to do so. On the other hand, he is often portrayed as a sad and lonely old man, who's quite possibly gone mad... He is described as untrustworthy and even deceitful. In the mythology, he often starts wars and conflicts just to see who will win, and once I even read that he even killed one of his own followers so he could take their soul to Valhalla. Now, here's my personal interpretation: I see Odin as a tragic as a somewhat misunderstood wizard. A lot of the people who describe him as bad are often writing from the perspective of those who have lost to him, not necessarily those that he favours. He is a god of wisdom, and therefore the mind, and more specifically, the subconscious mind. The subconscious mind can be real scary, so of course this explains his dark and brooding nature. I see him as a mentor the shows up to guide us through darkness. Not to hold our hand, but to help us explore our fears and reconnect with a primal power deep within us. To sit in the darkness until it no longer bothers us, then we go deeper. He is a god of death and rebirth, and I believe that he sends tests our way so that we can grow from the adversity - He is a war god, after all... I do not believe that Odin will just give you warm fuzzy feelings and I do not believe his darker aspects should be overlooked. Only a fool would expect this from him. But at the same time I do not believe that he is entirely selfish and "bad" especially considering myths are not meant to be taken literally, but contain a hidden teaching (which is a whole other can of worms) The point is, Odin can be dark - real dark - and has a cunning, clever and manipulating nature. I experience him as a patient, quiet, stoic old man and father, but on all the gods I would not want to get on his bad side. He represents raw, primitive, vital human existence, and harsh truths that some would be forgiven for mistaking as nihilism. He exposes the hard to swallow pills of life, and will show us things most people would want to bury their heads in the sands about. However he clearly does this for the greater good, as a harsh truth is better than a lie, and finding your own power out in the dark and cold is better than being weak. Like I said, two things can be true at once. I believe the fatherly, noble, warrior king aspects of him are just as much a part of him as the dark, wild, untamed and maddening aspects of him. They are two sides of the same coin that is the god Odin.
I love the honesty, the imperfections of the gods, the humility, the grey areas that reflect the human condition. The gods are not all powerful all knowing and benevolent, but not the complete opposite either, they merely exist as they are, neither good nor bad, just nature doing as it does, just as we do every day. Much love to you all.
Jung has a fantastic article called Wotan where he speaks about the Archetype of Odin and how it is connected to the collective events during WW2. Thank you for the fantastic information! 🌟
It was really quite fascinating. My interpretation is that Odin was testing the people of Germany, fueling their animus. In the end, they neglected the lessons of the runes; of how the magic of narrative shapes their reality - and thus they were consumed by the frenzy of battle.
Could u attach the link please.? I find Jung and his connection to ww2 as a secret agent very interesting. Not to mention how Adolf Hitler claimed he was possessed by Wotan , and this fuelled his,love for the,German people and their legacy. It seems prophetic that we see Nazism and Paganism emerging again recently and challenging Fundamental religion. These old Germanic tribes defeated the Holy Roman Empire by coming out of the Alps and joining together. Jung's analysis of the Black sun and occult knowledge is itself a resurrection of mankind's latent inner powers and workings.
@@eliphaslevi9589 my pleasure!🌿 Could you please tell me a bit more about the secret agent part? Lately I’ve been hit with some really interesting informations about the connection between Jung’s family and Masonry.
had a big competition one day and i called out to god since i didnt know which one was real but i was always pulled towards odin. The morning when i went to take my bike from the firewood cabin i had a raven fly out at me. I won the competition and became the champion in my country.
@@jasonmoskowitz246 tbh the map-over of Hellenic pantheon to Norse is way sloppy, doesn't align as well as the Romans pretended. Odin = Zeus? What features or stories do they share? Or Hermes? Sup with that thunderbolt? The eye counts on em? Odin maps better with Osiris. (hi, eye). Apollo/Apollyon, the Diurnal and Nocturnal sun, life-bringer and destroyer. Mithras too, kinda. Wandering Gods who travel through the Underworld. (remember Apollo comes from a different pantheon than the Olympian gods.) But not even those southern Sun Gods, as rich as their archetypes are, have the spirit and character and wealth of gnosis to offer as our beautiful Od Father. He's cold Northern poetry and passion and wisdom, no matter what masks He wore to get there.
Your teachings are inspiring, full of knowledge. May our ancestors souls shine through your work and entertainment. May Norse mythology/Nordic/Scandinavian history heritage and culture live forever... We thank you
Always an excellent speak. I love listening to your teachings in theory, historically.. and it does align with what I've pondered and learned about some myself. Amazing, friend!
arith. the way out is the way in. the way in is the way out. to end begin. listen to the wind. odin was a friend of mine, but not all the time. harharhar. take care gare
Udin reminds me constantly of the necessity of sacrifice. It is impossible to gain without giving. This holds true down to the tiniest molecule. It is a central principal in physics that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. I think much of the all father's story embodies this principle. You MUST give to receive. Even if you steal something you give away your honor, and some of your humanity. Also the idea that knowledge can cause a great deal of harm to the knower seems to be a theme. Science has proven this as well. The more intelligent you are the more likely you are to be depressed or anxious because you can truly SEE things as they are (pretty messed up) Sight is central to Udins character. I think him giving up his eye for wisdom is a metaphor: if we wish to be wise we cannot rely too much on what we see. The eyes are easily deceived.
And we as human beings are too self destructive, chaotic and so on. I think we are very similar to Odin and Loki and he wasn't mentioned in this video but a lot of what you said as far being chaotic and being a trickster is associated with Loki as well as not being good or evil. Good video sir Skål!
It's that moment when you finally real-eyes...they are ALL the same. Fragments of YOU. You took pieces of yourself and named them "gods" cuz you were bored. Then you forgot all this happened...and here we/you are. Wherever you go...there you are.
Thank you. I've been trying to sort my life out of late. Interestingly enough, when I finally ask for guidance - these are the videos, and literature I come across the most.
Interesting that you say that. There is a book about it, comparing shiva to odin precisely! But I don't remember the name unfortunately... ok as I write this I just remembered, a book that was recommended by one of my patrons "The One-eyed God" by Kris Kershaw.
also in arabic, Odin means I am in debt or I have debt upon myself - spelling Odeen -> in arabic أدين now the nice part: when you say in the name of Odin, you are exactly saying in arabic, in the name of religion = باسم الدين so religion = din = دين it is the debt that we owe to our spirit and holy soul. this is why we have to read, dig, reach, and activate our chakras, reach kundalini and balance our caduceus within of us. in the north mythology, Odin made 2 major sacrifices, one that has to do with sacrificing one of his eye, to attain knowledge and wisdom but this sacrifice was incomplete and his ego stayed intact to his subconsciousness. along with the philosophy of right and left hemisphere, the left eye being the materialistic philosophy and the right eye being the spiritual soul, so he apparently sacrificed the wrong one. and the other sacrifice, is the first ever crucifixion, and that was the optimal sacrificed and last one he made, where he sacrificed himself to himself, on a tree, while holding the staff, same one that of moses, the kundalini staff.
i fully agree that odin and shiva are the same role being played out. they both are the one eyed gods that travel through the worlds searching supreme knowledge. they both destroy to create and both have a spear for a weapon.
When i first began as a practicing Pagan 30 years ago Odin started showing up in my dreams. Now i had no idea what the messages were or if they meant anything atall but i made a mental note of those dreams and it is only now at age 51 i begin to understand . It may take another 30 years to fully internalize his wisdom.
I truly enjoy your videos Arith; your teachings confirms what I've understood while walking the Left Hand Path. I have various archetypes from other pantheon including the Norse Pantheon. I see Odinn as my principal archetype for searching wisdom whether be dark or light(without using the concept of good and evil), and understanding wisdom no matter if I have to cheat, lie others. My goal is to have bettwr understanding of tje mysteries and to be completely different in many ways from others.
Great video, I have been searching for stories about my god that do not paint him in a negative light and I think you did that while still removing the ideology that his actions make him evil. Thank you
Thank you so much for this. As I've just begun this path I felt wary of Woden as I felt my pre conceptions of him were to influenced by media. My push toward nordic paganism has felt like I'm being ushered by the force of Woden, and after your video I think I have a much deeper connection to Woden, what he embodies and it's connection to my own past of self destruction that after my own 3 years of a static life I finally am slowly finding this wisdom.
I've found myself drawn to Odin over the past few years. I don't know a great deal of mythology, but I always had this underlying sense of what you've explained in this video. I, too, have developed great wisdom due to suffering by my own hand. I am weary and carry the scars of my actions, but I can grant this wisdom to others in time. Perhaps that will make it all worth it.
I've only come across this video in 2024 even though I am subscribed and watch your videos. I am from the Orkney isles originally and as a child it was always Odin I loved through the sagas and stories we were taught at home and at School. I didn't see him as all light and good just the same as you wouldn't see a sea storm as good or dark. Odin is always the one I turn to, he is in my heart. I was also, or they tried, to teach me about Christianity and I did see Jesus as a real being who died and was now in spirit form but I never forgot my true heart.
If Odin comes to you, it may, just may be an easier ride, or not. He was always respectful and made it clear he was there for me when I needed him. I don't know if I'm ready to reconnect at this point, sadly. Not ready yet. You made a very good point, he is not all light but he is both light and darkness as that is how we also are. In the "image" of the gods, we are the same in nature. Odin may not have sacrificed himself for anyone else but he definitely paved the way for us. Odin may be dark and destructive but we are also. There is a lesson in everything, so they say. Since I met Odin, I have definitely changed and become more self centred but also much tougher. Not always good, not always "acceptable."
I love the Odin idea as the myths he does are insane, presented so you don't have to do the sick things he did in stories we hear. Old Odin pokes out an eye when his brain splits itself back to one, and when young Odin slept with his mother, he went to the horrors of hades to later become the huge living learning machine.
Wow man, I like your video -the professionalism, too!; people came behind you and sometimes their voices could be overheard, but you remained focused and composed. Awesome, man 👌 📝 7:32, 8:18-8:40 Who is Odin? (On a non-dualistic worldview) 8:41-10:33 "a particular example on Odin and his solitary self-destructive quest for power and wisdom."
we have to remember that as in all polytheistic panteons, the gods and the godesses are as complex as the mortals themself. with all the shortcommings that all motal humans have. for better or for worth. nobody is perfect and all we can do is to try our best.
Great explanation, coming from someone who isn’t on a pagan path myself. Kindve on a crossroads of sorts on a personal level, paganism has always been an extreme curiosity for me and something I’ve researched heavily many years of my life. I’m new to the ways of the Norse people and Norse paganism, but I’ve found it immensely interesting to research and read about. Your videos are very informative and I enjoy watching and learning
It sounds lile every other religions allegories once you study hermetics enough. Tipheret being the heart and also the sun and the christ consciousness that you obtain once you crucify the lower nature.... Which brings on dark night of the soul (mental anf emotional anguish like you described) this is the fast path towards enlightenment.... Braking thtough the lower ego by shattering it. Pr the slower path throughout many many lifetimes of the same hard lessons streched out teaching you love and power slowly blooming higher consciousness. I think it's so awesome that this parallels nearly every religious mythos ever.
14:28 Odin did not at all accept his death. He built an army of the honored battle dead to fight in Ragnarok. He has Fenrir chained up to try and prevent Ragnarok.
This video was recorded at 6 o'clock, on a very cold December morning. I was already out before dawn, so I caught a lot of cold. You can hear it in my voice the effects of a very humid and cold morning. You might want to turn on the subtitles on this one hehe.
No snow where you are? Surprising.
So precious! Thanks a lot Mr Arith! 🤗
Arith Härger there's no darkness in Odin nor thor or the aesir God's.
Just curious why you say Hudin vs a more common pronunciation like modern Odin or “Othin” (Old Norse).
@@random120 No problem, I've said this so many times before that I think I should probably make a video explaining it hehe. I pronounce "Oden", it is the Swedish pronounciation of Othin, and the one I'm more familiar with. I was introduced to "Oden" before knowing the Old Norse pronounciation "Óðinn".
I am a pagan, my father (casually) practiced Asatru in the late 90s early 00s, when I was a child (for the record, I do not practice Asatru). I remember having shrines to Odin and Thor in the house, hearing their myths before bedtime, etc. He eventually left that path to become agnostic/athiest (side note: the day he openly expressed that he no longer believed in the gods, there was a massive thunderstorm that caused damage to our neighborhood, I fully believe it was Thor haha). Odin has been a pretty central symbolic figure in my life for as long as I can remember.
Fast forward into my adulthood, I developed breast cancer at 25 years old (I have a rare genetic mutation). The night before my mastectomy, I was so afraid. I've never felt fear like that before. I had a dream that Odin visited me and shared with me the story of how he hung from the world tree. I saw myself hanging from the world tree. It was a dark and terrifying experience, but through that dream, I found an unexpected strength to face the surgery and the healing process. It was painful and probably the worst experience of my life, but through the darkness of that experience I found illumination. In that moment, I felt that the lessons of Odin were clearer to me than ever before.
My point in sharing this story is that your interpretation of Odin in this video resonates with my own experiences so deeply. Same with the other videos I've seen from you. I see that you /know/ these gods and their lore with a special kind of intimacy. It's really amazing and I love your content :)
"Ascendeding from darkness into enlightenment is more difficult, more painful but the final reward is far greater"
a quote to live by
True but unless you find the good the illumination will corrupt. absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Love too head heart connection helps
@@treverlewis5094 Enlightenment isn't "power", it literally _IS_ "The Good". What can it corrupt?
Knowledge of Self. Knowledge of Universe. Knowledge of the relationship between the two.
If the conclusion you come to is NOT Love, than you failed the grab, didn't get the "enlightenment" and will not have the means or probably inclination to do anything warranting your dark "Warning". Prolly just hang from wounds for another few (time?)s. Try for the Epiphany again, the worthless, mud-caked chips of stone and broken bone "treasure" that some of us morons will literally die to hold. No one's gonna enslave mankind from Odin's path, brother.
🔥🔥🔥
@@Lu11abi it's only when Knowledge is gained and understanding of them which is Wisdom that these things are Good, in a conventional sense
Otherwise, if one were to peek It without Knowledge or Wisdom or both, one shall be render insane or fall into despair
Hence, wise men conceal their knowledge, only telling them when those that wishes to know are sufficient enough to earn it....which these learners have already known if they have been sufficient for it....
Of all the gods, Odin intrigued me the most. I see his ravens when I’m out wandering around and I feel as though he is watching me. Maybe I’m a fool but it’s interesting nonetheless
I saw them on Wednesday this week
Durring an MRI,had out of body experience,walked on the clouds with Odin
I have the same experience occasionally. It is hard to describe to non-pagans but it’s something you just know when you see them/him watching you. I wonder if the myths are based on the same experiences people had thousands of years ago?
@@Dontincludeme Wednesday is named after Odin, what a funny coincidence
@@ceedee873 yes. That was the point of my comment
This is what I've been trying to tell other Asatru people. I honestly dont think you can possibly follow down a path hailing Odin without knowing the evil things he's done. I have and I accept it. I looked at the horrid things Odin has done and look at the evil deeds I've done. But when I look back at myself I wouldn't say I am evil. It's a sense of understanding that nobody is good or evil. With everything Odin has done whether you call it good or evil it had a purpose that led to a positive outcome for him and his tribe. It's a scary lesson to learn if you have to be the leader of anything. Sometimes you have to do fucked up shit for the benefit of the tribe. Even if the action only benefits you. The things you might gain could be useful in the future.
I agree. It comes down to ethics. Would I steal to feed my starving family? Yes. Would I kill to kill to protect my family and myself? Yes. It is drawing a line in the dirt. Can we draw a line without crossing someone elses line? No.
Great good and great harm. His energy seems a bit human wouldn’t you say. We are all grey
What evils are you referring to specifically?
For one he rapes someone to father the son that kills Hodr to avenge Baldar. Steals mead of poetry. Breaks oaths at will...
@@helshome8423 he got eaten by fenrir as punishment... Karma is a bitch!
I'm an African American Christian male, but I find paganism and Norse history very interesting. Odin's story is very inspiring to me and as a Christian I don't worship any pagan gods, but I use Odin's story as a philosophy to get through and get the most out of life.
We all make our choices, but what is important is that we learn from them. Whichever paths we choose, it's important to keep walking forward straight to acquire more wisdom, so we can become better versions of our past-selves. And may our wisdom never diminishes, and may it help others to become more knowledgeble and better, hehe.
@Forrest Robles man ..he is African AMERICAN
@@andyaknoby5007 what is the point of emphasizing "AMERICAN"?
Odin is as capricious and changing as human nature itself is. He is Wise Counsel, and Trickster. Ready always to take an advantage. A Turner of deeds to his purpose. He is Honor and Treachery. One who searches, and finds never quite enough. Ever learning, ever changing. He is what we all are at our core.
Odanaz is wiser than you think.
When you really look at things you realize he and Loki aren't all that different, but he had better PR. There is a reason Odin made him his blood brother at one point.
@@moralityisnotsubjective5 Lol I see Loki as a way for Odin to do shit that no one can accept Odin doing.
@@moralityisnotsubjective5 They're also distant cousins, and some sources claim they are foster brothers meaning Odin's parents probably adopted Loki at one point or another.
@@Lu11abi Same.
I view Odin as a shaman. I think of him as god of the dead. Leading the Wild Hunt with Holda. Magic, runes, galdr. I think of Odin in these rolls more than the All Father and a king or lord. He will let you fall into madness if you ask him for what you want. He is not a god of let's make this sunshine and roses.
Ghandi himself was a wild destructive one early in life until became humbled and he began embracing wisdom over ego.
You will know God when you know the one and only Jesus Christ
@@Jason-zw2dg oh yeah?
@@Jason-zw2dg I love the Days I grew up with. 🤟
@@Jason-zw2dg And you wish to take them from me? Why do you want to hurt me so bad?
It’s not all back & white, but gray. This feels more human, for no human is 100% good or 100% evil.
Karina Nalbandyan Are you referencing a wrestler’s theme song? But seriously, agreed.
Tack The Nite Wrestlers theme song? Lol.. No dear. I don’t know much about wrestling or their theme songs
Plus, without going through darkness, how would one know light?? Light doesn't raise light, darkness gives way to light, like light gives way to darkness. It's an never ending dance.. The goal, is to at least balance it. Looking at the world today,, it's not difficult to see which way the scale is tipping.
Exactly Yin Yang
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet
As my interpretation, odin is our mind, and the myths in the poetic edda are riddles that if interpreted correctly, you achieve wisdom and spiritual enrichment. Thinking that the gods are physical is spiritual darkness, the gods are not physical or living in another world, they are here, they represent nature, they represent truth, strength, wisdom, gravity, etc. Odin (our mind) it's known as many names. The saver, the doomer, the corrupt, the just. We must act like the gods in order to be the best version of ourselves.
Theepic SkyrimPlayer that’s my feeling as well
White Viking brothers!!!
You want to know who Odin is?
I have a feeling somewhere in between 7th-9th century AD.
The Norse religion & Christianity got mixed up with who he was possibly?
Check this out!
Esus is another name for Odin.
The word Esus.
Add a "J" that was later introduced into the Anglo Saxon English alphabet in the 17th century.
What do you have when you add-
"J" with Esus? ;)
romecorruptedchristianity.wordpress.com/2013/07/09/esus-and-jesus-coincidence-the-trinity-of-esus/
David Fye II Jesus comes from ieoseous and esus comes from esus. Also, no one calls Odin esus, as esus is a Gaulish quasi-iteration of their common ancestral god
@Jarl William did you mean christianity?
@Jarl William where the fuck you read that bullshit? Lol you do realize the poetic edda are RIDDLES not to be taken literally right? That's why druids (midwives of the mind) explained these myths to people. NEVER i have read or heard of "gods killing mortals just for killing them" that's big bullshit. I recall "god" murdering children in his "honor" and demanding sacrifices, also demanding acceptance and "love" only for him, if not, he will murder you brutally and torture you for eternity.
So well said in this video.
Many years ago I set up a hearg/horgr to the Aesir and Vanir under a very old oak tree, deep into the woods/wald . When I dedicated it to Woden/Othin, two crows (cousins of ravens) landed in the old oak tree and watched every move I made that day.
Odin is more relatable. Then any other god. A pure experience of all things. The all father embraces every aspect. Mischief, honor, ferocity and sacrifice. Death and life. Destruction and ambition.
You can kind of link these ideas of Odin with the Left Hand Path in many of its aspects, and it kind of shows how easily Odin is taken up as one of the gods of the Left Hand Path. And why not? Odin one of the few deities around who, in some fairly neat but not exact ways, corresponds to the Lucifer archetype that we're familiar with in many ways. Sure he's typecast as the leader of the forces of order, but he's also the god of a chaotic, almost Bacchic mode of divine inspiration, Odr (it's in his namesake, even), he's a patron of outlaws and non-conformists, practices a form of magic that is considered taboo for men to practice, and sacrifices himself for the pursuit of knowledge. Even his whole deal regarding Ragnarok, and the fact that he's gaining knowledge for the sake of avoiding his inevitable demise at Ragnarok, can be seen in terms of cultivating knowledge in order to fight, change or even defy fate.
Odin feels like a very human god.
@@myson999 Ah but in truth he is more.
Harger: This is an example of your almost unique ability to correctly and insigthfully express the ancient religion in the context of the people of the time. Well done.
I met Odin in the woods once, He appeared to me as an old man, I was 28 years young and strong and I feared nothing unto death. But when this old man was walking toward me, I became very fearful and I could not control it. He told me many things about myself that no one else could know, and things about myself that I did not know. His words toward me was very harsh with no mercy, scolding me and I was on my knees crippled with fear unable to even speak. He told me, "Get up and stop pitying yourself." Then he walked into the woods and disappeared. To this day I still don't understand that experience. No! I was not high on drugs or Alcohol.
So Odin for sure is real. I'll be sure to try and call on him.
He want to wake you up.
Hans Ruppertz: you know i have heard of many stories of women walking home late at night from work alone, decided to take a short cut through a lit up park or a well known park, enough for them to feel somewhat comfortable at the time then they experience a ghost encounter in which a specter or apparition scares and terrorises the shit out of them and they run away and go straight home. Then the next day on the news another woman was raped walking from the bus or train through the same park.......hours after the women who had a ghostly encounter.
Maybe the divine spirits and gods can only wake up the most stubborn of us through such harsh ways.....I mean human parents are capable of the same thing, makes me really re think the whole good and evil thing....
Ohh well Skol! as long as you were not physically attacked or being haunted, all ended well after a while right?
@Hanz Ruppertz: There is also anther norse pagan on youtube, i wish i had subscribed at the time but her experience seeking odin through astral projection and meditation, and her journey where she wanted to talk to Odin and meet him, and she kept on running into different forks in the road she was on and distractions, but she kept on focucing on Odin and finally found him. Now she claimed from her experience that it seemed Odin had put those distractions as a test to see if she was serious about reaching out to him. She also spoke about how every question she had for him he had asked her in return, but she flet like she had the answer already in her and odin was like asking her to get her to seek out more or think a different way. It appears from many accounts that Odin is tough love, but also compassionate but also a little tricky.....hey im no better right?
She described him as this old man wanderer with one eye and a walking stick and a round brimed pointyish type hat.
@@TerfBashingMFer8021 Skoll! I am still trying to figure all this information out, I don't know anymore than you do. If you have anymore information on the subject, please let me know.
This brought up a lot of “dark”, unpleasant emotions in me. I feel angry. Beneath it I feel sadness. The trickster energy of this deity, of life, irritates me. It is coyotes for my people. El borrado. The eraser. Chaos is something I resent. And also something I must integrate, accept, surrender to?
Going to write. Journal fury! Thanks for this.
So much excellent psychological material here instructive to those who engage in work with the shadow. Thank you, sir!
Thank you very much for listening ^^
None work with the shadow, only FOR the shadow. And that unwittingly. Beware
This is absolutely amazing. It is everything I have felt about Odin since starting down this path. Seeing him as all light just didn't feel right because of his stories. Thanks for sharing this video, it helped me see that my feelings may not be so wrong after all.
Odin's examples and tales teach us to deeply consider those things we desire, and whether we can bear the price it expects from us.
That dualistic view is very hard to shake when its been branded in your head over & over again for years.
I love your content Arith ❤ Your channel always feels like a good place to go for a grounded and realistic view of Nordic mythology concepts.
Thank you!
Great video. And it's a good point to make. The path to wisdom takes you beyond good and evil.
Thank you :) yes indeed, the path of wisdom isn't always pleasant, but what we achieve sometimes is a great reward for our sacrifices.
It's only hard for us to comprehend the nature of the norse Gods if we look at them through the prism of the abrahamic faiths.
If, however, we understand Odin and other Gods as we understand ourselves and the behaviour of the human species then it makes alot more sense. I am drawn to the pagan Gods because of their faults, weakness and vulnerabilities.
Good video, very informative.
Man, great insight. Seen this maybe a year or so ago.. Really, if we're in the image of our gods, then they to went through things we go through and must still go through to maybe eventually become centered.. I grew up only hearing of the Christian faith, through the years questioning things, beginning to listen to other beliefs, iam noticing alot of similarities. Our gods walked the walk, and have left behind lessons to help guide us,, to eventually overcome anything and have control over all our senses. Everyday it seems we learn something new. Those who question life and ask themselves why certain things are the way they are. For instance, iam a peaceful man, I treat others with respect they show me, sometimes ignoring ignorance or joking back,, but what gives another man, power over me, to make him think he can stop me,, ask me dumb questions, if I question his authority, he tries to throw me in a cage?? Why?? Is no better than me..😁
Pretty much my back ground. Never heard of high vibrations, the Power of attraction, classic Christian. The 3rd eye was your b@m hole lol🤣
Food for thought all so 😁😇😇😇
This is a lyric i wrote 5 few years ago: " focused in on myself i traded wisdom for my health". Its kinda freaky
Love that.
Trve Core Shamanic Shadow Work recipe right there.
Man I love your videos. And I'm loving this about Odinn and Thursatru as a philosophical aspect. Once again thank you Arith.
It’s been a very long time since I’ve seeked knowledge on the Gods, I’m grateful to have found this. Thank you.
Your opening with the runic chant is powerful. I am new to your channel, but I appreciate your work.
This video has been most amazing. There are very few people even talking about let alone understanding non-dual ways of thinking out there. My background is mostly in Daoism/Zen/Hinduism, I've been getting more into Norse spirituality as of late, and this was extremely fascinating. Very realized stuff here. Very very good stuff.
I really respect the impartial knowledge you have to share, this video as well as your video on thursatru and the sinister path have had a large influence on how i follow the Odinic path. I initially thought that in nondualism; embracing my addiction & self destructive behavior would lead me to great enlightenment, which it sort of did; but it also lead me too realize that with the absence of order, chaos & darkness dominated my life; it almost broke me. Until i realised that it wasn't about embracing the chaos, but coming to realize that chaos around and within me has the limitless potential to create, just as it has the same limitless potential for destruction without order. Its a matter of learning to work with it by establishing and structure to further grow and create. I try to stay faithful too tribalism; but my path to following Odin is heavily influenced by thursatru as well; i know this path will continue to be an uneasy one, but i am finally reshaping the chaos within me because i have finally found order and purpose, I've revived my love to relentlessly pursue wisdom, ive learned to accept the nature of events and take accountability of my consequences make the best out of it.
"Strength in the body
Growth in the earth"
Thank you Arith
Woden is our will to power through wisdom. When I make offering to the Gods and Ancestors for my family I always begin with the words
"Woden be the wisdom in my mind with which I guide my family. "
You’re still criminally unsubscribed to.
Thursatru and Rokkatru are deeply interesting philosophical interpretations of the Northern European faiths.
Thank you my good friend :)
You are a scholar of our time. Well done on the video!
Thank you so much :)
Also, in Vedic mythology ravens/crows are considered to be vehicles for Saturn, who’s also considered to be one of the 11 Rudras (Shiva being another). Interesting eh!
Sorry for being 2 years late but this is the first time I'm hearing Shani ( Vedic/ Hindu version of Saturn) being considered one of the Rudras. So could you please provide any scriptural reference? But yes crows and ravens are Shani's vehicle definitely. Although I've heard Shani's brother Yama/ Kala has been mentioned as a Rudra rarely.
Anyway Shiva is the chief of Rudras that much is certain.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudras
Good stuff, I think behind Odins stories are hidden messages it would be a mistake to take them at face value as “bad” “evil” and devious. They are there for us to untangle and use to unlock the mysteries. Great info as always.
I greatly respect your views and teachings.
I quite love your voice and accent, as well as your energy
Thank you for your insights
You have a captivating mind. 🖤 Thank you so much for making videos. You and you're knowledge is such a treasure.
I want to thank you, you dont know how much this helped me. Thanks for sharing!!
When i first started using opioids i used to think," could it be possible for a human consciousness to feel great pleasure for ever?" "Why does everyone think its wrong to feel great? I eventually learned that no, u cant feel real pleasure without pain. You always need contrast. There is a special significance about pain/suffering and struggle. Truth is a double edged blade.
This is why I'm a patron right here. Great, unique, informed, daring content.
This is extremely interesting and beautifully stated. I'm writing down notes for my book. Thank you!
Thank you, and good luck with your book ^^
Your videos are always refreshing as your perspective is thank you
Outstanding exposition. Thank you.
Arith this is so strange.I wrote a story about this ages ago,now it makes so much sense
.i gotta be crossroad between the two.
Now I get myself better.Thank you
Dear Arith
Thanks a lot for this wonderful video. I would like to add another aspect though. By slaying Ymir and creating Midgard Odin manifests a reality that is to his liking but due to the laws of nature (the Norns live directly on Yggdrasil not in one of the 9 worlds) everything that comes into existence has to decay and end at some point. Now since we are all part of Midgard and most of Odin’s unsavory acts are aimed at staving off or even preventing Ragnarök it could be argued that while he obviously does these things to gain knowledge and power, he also does them to actually save the world, well his world of course. I think in the light of the views you’ve presented in this video this adds even more tension to the fascinating figure called Allfather, Bölverkr, Fjölnir… well you get my drift…
Although raised in a judeo christian family I had always been drawn toward paganism and odin since a very young age. Ive never associated odin with jehova I have always been able to see the differences. As I've grown older I realise my relationship with odin has shown through my own sacrifices for wisdom and self improvement. I've always looked at self sacrifice as giving up a part of your life for the better. Not suicide. To me its like quitting smoking cigarettes not doing drugs or drinking moderately stop hanging around a rough crowd. I truly have gone through dark times and come out the other end a better stronger wiser. Symbolicly sacrificing an eye to see the world in a different way to focus on what matters. Sometimes i feel like a completely different person than I was 5 years ago. Since being able to look back and relate my transformation with characteristics of Odin its helped me stay on my path of spiritual rediscovery. It's not uncommon for me to see two ravens about while out walking. This helps me feel closer to odin like hes watching my progress. Since stumbling upon your channel a few weeks ago I knew right away you have knowledge far greater than almost anyone on TH-cam or any video I've watched about the gods, old ways, runes. and I have learned alot from you. You do so much more than just read stanzas from the Eddas. And I Thank you for that. You are a great teacher. Please continue to do what you do friend.
A excellent summary and (finally) addressing the pitfalls of dualistic projection in interpreting the past of our ancestors (regardless of their origins!)
Very interesting video, and definitively made me think a lot. Simply put, two things can be true at once. On one hand, in the Havamal we get a fatherly figure who gives solid advice on proper conduct, honour, and even love and romance. He goes out of his way to test the honour and good deeds of others, and often shows up as a mentor. He has gone to incredible lengths not just to learn, but to teach, and often puts himself in harms way to do so.
On the other hand, he is often portrayed as a sad and lonely old man, who's quite possibly gone mad... He is described as untrustworthy and even deceitful. In the mythology, he often starts wars and conflicts just to see who will win, and once I even read that he even killed one of his own followers so he could take their soul to Valhalla.
Now, here's my personal interpretation:
I see Odin as a tragic as a somewhat misunderstood wizard. A lot of the people who describe him as bad are often writing from the perspective of those who have lost to him, not necessarily those that he favours. He is a god of wisdom, and therefore the mind, and more specifically, the subconscious mind. The subconscious mind can be real scary, so of course this explains his dark and brooding nature. I see him as a mentor the shows up to guide us through darkness. Not to hold our hand, but to help us explore our fears and reconnect with a primal power deep within us. To sit in the darkness until it no longer bothers us, then we go deeper. He is a god of death and rebirth, and I believe that he sends tests our way so that we can grow from the adversity - He is a war god, after all... I do not believe that Odin will just give you warm fuzzy feelings and I do not believe his darker aspects should be overlooked. Only a fool would expect this from him. But at the same time I do not believe that he is entirely selfish and "bad" especially considering myths are not meant to be taken literally, but contain a hidden teaching (which is a whole other can of worms) The point is, Odin can be dark - real dark - and has a cunning, clever and manipulating nature. I experience him as a patient, quiet, stoic old man and father, but on all the gods I would not want to get on his bad side. He represents raw, primitive, vital human existence, and harsh truths that some would be forgiven for mistaking as nihilism. He exposes the hard to swallow pills of life, and will show us things most people would want to bury their heads in the sands about. However he clearly does this for the greater good, as a harsh truth is better than a lie, and finding your own power out in the dark and cold is better than being weak. Like I said, two things can be true at once. I believe the fatherly, noble, warrior king aspects of him are just as much a part of him as the dark, wild, untamed and maddening aspects of him. They are two sides of the same coin that is the god Odin.
I love the honesty, the imperfections of the gods, the humility, the grey areas that reflect the human condition. The gods are not all powerful all knowing and benevolent, but not the complete opposite either, they merely exist as they are, neither good nor bad, just nature doing as it does, just as we do every day. Much love to you all.
Jung has a fantastic article called Wotan where he speaks about the Archetype of Odin and how it is connected to the collective events during WW2.
Thank you for the fantastic information! 🌟
It was really quite fascinating. My interpretation is that Odin was testing the people of Germany, fueling their animus. In the end, they neglected the lessons of the runes; of how the magic of narrative shapes their reality - and thus they were consumed by the frenzy of battle.
Could u attach the link please.? I find Jung and his connection to ww2 as a secret agent very interesting. Not to mention how Adolf Hitler claimed he was possessed by Wotan , and this fuelled his,love for the,German people and their legacy. It seems prophetic that we see Nazism and Paganism emerging again recently and challenging Fundamental religion. These old Germanic tribes defeated the Holy Roman Empire by coming out of the Alps and joining together. Jung's analysis of the Black sun and occult knowledge is itself a resurrection of mankind's latent inner powers and workings.
@@eliphaslevi9589 th-cam.com/video/vLt8vsP6EgU/w-d-xo.html
I found this video version. The written one seems harder to find.
@ManifestTarot awesome. Thankyou very much for taking the time to send it.
@@eliphaslevi9589 my pleasure!🌿
Could you please tell me a bit more about the secret agent part?
Lately I’ve been hit with some really interesting informations about the connection between Jung’s family and Masonry.
Mr. Arith, I salute you, this is fantastic!
had a big competition one day and i called out to god since i didnt know which one was real but i was always pulled towards odin. The morning when i went to take my bike from the firewood cabin i had a raven fly out at me. I won the competition and became the champion in my country.
Excellent video, accuracy, franknesses and very respectful. Thank you. Much LiGhtLove namaste ❤️🕚💛🕚💚🕚💙🕚💜👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Excellent. The same basic truth can be found in all cultures making US ALL ONE. Thank You.
Odin reminds me on Chronos or Saturn, Lord of Time and so the Keeper of the Doorstep into the Byond.
@Northumbrian I have in my studies that he was closely linkd to the messenger god hermes. Hermes is the greek god? Mercury?
mercury/odin/thoth/hermes
Loki is Odin's shadow, his alter-ego.
Odin would be Zeus, since he killed his father. Ymir is Kronos ime
@@jasonmoskowitz246 tbh the map-over of Hellenic pantheon to Norse is way sloppy, doesn't align as well as the Romans pretended.
Odin = Zeus? What features or stories do they share? Or Hermes? Sup with that thunderbolt? The eye counts on em?
Odin maps better with Osiris. (hi, eye). Apollo/Apollyon, the Diurnal and Nocturnal sun, life-bringer and destroyer. Mithras too, kinda. Wandering Gods who travel through the Underworld.
(remember Apollo comes from a different pantheon than the Olympian gods.)
But not even those southern Sun Gods, as rich as their archetypes are, have the spirit and character and wealth of gnosis to offer as our beautiful Od Father.
He's cold Northern poetry and passion and wisdom, no matter what masks He wore to get there.
Your teachings are inspiring, full of knowledge. May our ancestors souls shine through your work and entertainment. May Norse mythology/Nordic/Scandinavian history heritage and culture live forever... We thank you
"Suffering is above, not below. And everyone thinks that suffering is below. And everyone wants to rise." - Antonio Porchia
Always an excellent speak. I love listening to your teachings in theory, historically.. and it does align with what I've pondered and learned about some myself. Amazing, friend!
arith. the way out is the way in. the way in is the way out. to end begin. listen to the wind.
odin was a friend of mine, but not all the time. harharhar. take care gare
Very true friend hehe
Thank you. This exploration of this topic is quite close to my personal path and experience with Woden. Your articulation is greatly appreciated.
Udin reminds me constantly of the necessity of sacrifice. It is impossible to gain without giving. This holds true down to the tiniest molecule. It is a central principal in physics that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. I think much of the all father's story embodies this principle. You MUST give to receive. Even if you steal something you give away your honor, and some of your humanity. Also the idea that knowledge can cause a great deal of harm to the knower seems to be a theme. Science has proven this as well. The more intelligent you are the more likely you are to be depressed or anxious because you can truly SEE things as they are (pretty messed up) Sight is central to Udins character. I think him giving up his eye for wisdom is a metaphor: if we wish to be wise we cannot rely too much on what we see. The eyes are easily deceived.
This literally changed all my view on Odínn, thank you so much Arith! ❤️
And we as human beings are too self destructive, chaotic and so on. I think we are very similar to Odin and Loki and he wasn't mentioned in this video but a lot of what you said as far being chaotic and being a trickster is associated with Loki as well as not being good or evil. Good video sir Skål!
Made me think of the Buddha who had his own trials and tribulations before achieving enlightenment.
It's that moment when you finally real-eyes...they are ALL the same. Fragments of YOU. You took pieces of yourself and named them "gods" cuz you were bored.
Then you forgot all this happened...and here we/you are.
Wherever you go...there you are.
@@GregtheGrey6969 yea
Sacrifice is demanded.
It is the nature of The One which is beyond everything.
@@GregtheGrey6969 Jesus reminds His disciples that the Old Testament writes that "ye are gods".
Thank you. I've been trying to sort my life out of late. Interestingly enough, when I finally ask for guidance - these are the videos, and literature I come across the most.
There are lots of parallels between Odin and Shiva. I’m quite sure they have common roots.
Interesting that you say that. There is a book about it, comparing shiva to odin precisely! But I don't remember the name unfortunately... ok as I write this I just remembered, a book that was recommended by one of my patrons "The One-eyed God" by Kris Kershaw.
They are both of Aryan kindred
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way.
also in arabic, Odin means I am in debt or I have debt upon myself - spelling Odeen -> in arabic أدين
now the nice part: when you say in the name of Odin, you are exactly saying in arabic, in the name of religion = باسم الدين
so religion = din = دين
it is the debt that we owe to our spirit and holy soul. this is why we have to read, dig, reach, and activate our chakras, reach kundalini and balance our caduceus within of us.
in the north mythology, Odin made 2 major sacrifices, one that has to do with sacrificing one of his eye, to attain knowledge and wisdom
but this sacrifice was incomplete and his ego stayed intact to his subconsciousness. along with the philosophy of right and left hemisphere, the left eye being the materialistic philosophy and the right eye being the spiritual soul, so he apparently sacrificed the wrong one.
and the other sacrifice, is the first ever crucifixion, and that was the optimal sacrificed and last one he made,
where he sacrificed himself to himself, on a tree, while holding the staff, same one that of moses, the kundalini staff.
i fully agree that odin and shiva are the same role being played out. they both are the one eyed gods that travel through the worlds searching supreme knowledge. they both destroy to create and both have a spear for a weapon.
Most excellent summary Arith, most excellent.
This was excellent! Thank you so much.
When i first began as a practicing Pagan 30 years ago Odin started showing up in my dreams. Now i had no idea what the messages were or if they meant anything atall but i made a mental note of those dreams and it is only now at age 51 i begin to understand . It may take another 30 years to fully internalize his wisdom.
Wow Arith! You jist blew my mind! What an interesting perspective. Once you started to talk about Odin it made absolute sense. Great job and video!
I truly enjoy your videos Arith; your teachings confirms what I've understood while walking the Left Hand Path. I have various archetypes from other pantheon including the Norse Pantheon. I see Odinn as my principal archetype for searching wisdom whether be dark or light(without using the concept of good and evil), and understanding wisdom no matter if I have to cheat, lie others. My goal is to have bettwr understanding of tje mysteries and to be completely different in many ways from others.
Fantastic break down of a very complex figure. So glad I subscribed.
That was beautiful, ThankYou 🖤🔥
Great video, I have been searching for stories about my god that do not paint him in a negative light and I think you did that while still removing the ideology that his actions make him evil. Thank you
Keep up the good work from Melbourne Australia
Thankyou! I had never heard this interpretation concerning Odin and Life before.
This is an excellent presentation! Thank you!
Thank you very much :D
Thank you so much for this. As I've just begun this path I felt wary of Woden as I felt my pre conceptions of him were to influenced by media. My push toward nordic paganism has felt like I'm being ushered by the force of Woden, and after your video I think I have a much deeper connection to Woden, what he embodies and it's connection to my own past of self destruction that after my own 3 years of a static life I finally am slowly finding this wisdom.
Finally someone admitted it and says it!
Brave man!!!
I love your videos!!! 👏👏👏 💪💪 ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you hehe, I'm glad you enjoy the content I put out :)
I've found myself drawn to Odin over the past few years. I don't know a great deal of mythology, but I always had this underlying sense of what you've explained in this video.
I, too, have developed great wisdom due to suffering by my own hand. I am weary and carry the scars of my actions, but I can grant this wisdom to others in time. Perhaps that will make it all worth it.
I truly appreciated your interpretation of this concept!!!
It was a wonderful vidéo, thank you very much for this share of knowledge. I subscribed to your channel. I will watch more video.
I've only come across this video in 2024 even though I am subscribed and watch your videos. I am from the Orkney isles originally and as a child it was always Odin I loved through the sagas and stories we were taught at home and at School. I didn't see him as all light and good just the same as you wouldn't see a sea storm as good or dark. Odin is always the one I turn to, he is in my heart. I was also, or they tried, to teach me about Christianity and I did see Jesus as a real being who died and was now in spirit form but I never forgot my true heart.
Aromate for it is cap many are Thor but few are Odin, the ways of Norse are the ways of revelries.
You explained the god chief perfectly, although I believe he is more enigmatic, and confusing to where even he doesn't know what he will do next.
Excellent! Thank you so much for sharing your views, it is such an interesting world to explore
If Odin comes to you, it may, just may be an easier ride, or not. He was always respectful and made it clear he was there for me when I needed him. I don't know if I'm ready to reconnect at this point, sadly. Not ready yet. You made a very good point, he is not all light but he is both light and darkness as that is how we also are. In the "image" of the gods, we are the same in nature. Odin may not have sacrificed himself for anyone else but he definitely paved the way for us. Odin may be dark and destructive but we are also. There is a lesson in everything, so they say. Since I met Odin, I have definitely changed and become more self centred but also much tougher. Not always good, not always "acceptable."
I love the Odin idea as the myths he does are insane, presented so you don't have to do the sick things he did in stories we hear. Old Odin pokes out an eye when his brain splits itself back to one, and when young Odin slept with his mother, he went to the horrors of hades to later become the huge living learning machine.
Wow man, I like your video -the professionalism, too!; people came behind you and sometimes their voices could be overheard, but you remained focused and composed. Awesome, man 👌
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7:32, 8:18-8:40 Who is Odin? (On a non-dualistic worldview)
8:41-10:33 "a particular example on Odin and his solitary self-destructive quest for power and wisdom."
I enjoy your videos very much. Thank you for sharing your knowledge/views.
we have to remember that as in all polytheistic panteons, the gods and the godesses are as complex as the mortals themself. with all the shortcommings that all motal humans have. for better or for worth. nobody is perfect and all we can do is to try our best.
Great explanation, coming from someone who isn’t on a pagan path myself. Kindve on a crossroads of sorts on a personal level, paganism has always been an extreme curiosity for me and something I’ve researched heavily many years of my life. I’m new to the ways of the Norse people and Norse paganism, but I’ve found it immensely interesting to research and read about. Your videos are very informative and I enjoy watching and learning
It sounds lile every other religions allegories once you study hermetics enough. Tipheret being the heart and also the sun and the christ consciousness that you obtain once you crucify the lower nature.... Which brings on dark night of the soul (mental anf emotional anguish like you described) this is the fast path towards enlightenment.... Braking thtough the lower ego by shattering it. Pr the slower path throughout many many lifetimes of the same hard lessons streched out teaching you love and power slowly blooming higher consciousness. I think it's so awesome that this parallels nearly every religious mythos ever.
Your videos are awesome! Thank you!
Brilliant analysis, so rare to find !! Thank you so much! I just subscribed
This is an absolute fantastic video
Thanks Arith!
Thnk you :)
Great video !! Thank you for your words
8:12 - 8:41 absolutely prophetical. Amazing word smithing
14:28 Odin did not at all accept his death. He built an army of the honored battle dead to fight in Ragnarok. He has Fenrir chained up to try and prevent Ragnarok.