chu ko nu / ZXL too strong for sure. But in this case Avely just played this poor. No scouting at all, neither background activities nor map control. He could have easily pushed meditation gardens or 3rd / 4th TC or farms in the back. ZXL hat no walls at all. He never moved his longbows to a flank to check villager activities or ressource source. If you let ZXL grow like this you can`t blame them. But again: They still need a nerv.
people complaining about civs and being either too weak or too strong and im just out here "[civilization]? AWESOME!" Come on, China and booming? HELL YEAH Ottomans and trading? GIVE IT TO ME, i dont even care if the Sea Gate Castle is the best landmark i LOVE that shit
hey drongo, awesome content. I was wondering if you might be able to cast some civ vs variant civ matches like u did with juicy and china? I would love to see abba vs ayyubid if you have one of those in the archives. Thanks for the work u do!
I get ZXL winrate is not that crazy but its so unfun to play against, needs nerfs in some places and maybe changes to others to make it not feel as oppresive?
I think Avely should have used the gone around a bit to build the battering rams so they would be against weaker and more undefended 🚫🛡 buildings. Rather than the outposts, which were not doing a lot economy wise. That way their wood 🪵 destroyed/minute rate would be much, much higher and there would be more disruption in other forms such as in destroying the production buildings and increasing villager build time. Especially because it would mean Avely would not be against the much more powerful landmark town centre with the battering rams. Also, Avely should have really gone for fish 🐟 with ships or villagers considering the opponent had no offensive power to contest it at that point.
How did crackedy go from 200 food to 2000 around minute 20 without trading with gold? Not accusing anyone of anything, especially a player like him, just genuinely curious. Is there some sort of upgrade or did he select all villagers and tell them to turn in whatever they are holding. I can't math it
38 Villagers in queue would make the difference of roughly 1900 resources. With four towncenters possible, isn´t it? UI is not showing how many villagers are in queue.
1TC with 47 army units vs 4TC with one horseman..... i think this game is not about zhu xi legancy. Even, Crakedhere playing other civ with 3TC or 4TC like that is still able to win. Better said, when a guy with 47 army units vs 1 horseman, then still gets nothing for a very long long time. The game is already over no matter it is Zhu xi legancy or not.
The worst thing about playing against CIVs like juicy is that they are just so forgiving to the player playing them. The fact that they can just eco and tower out of everything, and the gameplan is simple! There is a fundamental problem when a team can be so cheaply self sufficient and they get a one size fits all unit, is just dumb.
Zhu xis legacy is a lot more diffcult to play than others... Or english... English is 1 star and chinese and ZXL is 3 star diffcult... Avely mistake in this game
@@grdks981 Are they harder lol? Whats so hard about turtling and then booming? Defensively they are one of the better teams, are they not? They have to nerf some combination of: Build speed, Meditation Gardens, Auto getting the Zhuge, the wood discount. Lightly i would say, but there are clear and present imbalances. The teams i really feel for are China and France, why would you ever play those now, they should get a little something to distinguish themselves from their much better variant civs.
@@andrewwoods7507 Yes they are harder to play, 3 stars against 1. And every pro player say that. Beasty already said that ZXL one of the hardest to play. And i already saw 2 others saying exactly the same, i dont remember who now... Maybe they need a nerf, but China and ZXL lose a lot. In this game the english player was terrible
I watch all of your video Drongo but man this one just felt off in terms of the skill level. I feel like Avely just played terrible, so many mistakes and missed chances I that I don't really think it was just ZXL being OP
Nah this was just poor english game. Have the med gardens been taken down that TC push was a win condition and all he needed there was one more ram. Considering he was banking 600 wood at that time it should've been games blouzes. Also insufficient scouting resulting in being scared of nothing. This game didn't go to žu či because they're busted.
Again a content creator being biased against a 50.5% winrate civilisation, what a joke. You are the reason that the Chinese are unplayable for 99% of the playerbase
Have you ever watched this guy? He’s all in for China and juicy, he’s maimed China since the game was released and argued against every nerf they ever got. If he’s saying it should be nerfed, it must be SO bad that he can’t deny it without losing credibility.
chu ko nu / ZXL too strong for sure. But in this case Avely just played this poor. No scouting at all, neither background activities nor map control. He could have easily pushed meditation gardens or 3rd / 4th TC or farms in the back. ZXL hat no walls at all. He never moved his longbows to a flank to check villager activities or ressource source. If you let ZXL grow like this you can`t blame them. But again: They still need a nerv.
zhuge nu
zhuge nu
I love how the Meditation Gardens was placed in such a vulnerable position, yet ended up completely unscathed for the entirety of the game! 😂
French were the most busted back in the day before the spearman brace mechanic was automated.
imagine having spearmen just stand and wait to be charged. wow that was cringe. i cant believe how far this game has come from day 1
That was a funny joke Drongo, good stuff, keep it up!
Thanks for the video Drongo!
"im not doin crash hot with it" he says! thats an awesome term XD
the game i was looking for, all in Eng vs Zhu Xi. nice one!
Appreciating the Archeage shoutouts Drongo. Dang I miss playing that game too.
people complaining about civs and being either too weak or too strong and im just out here "[civilization]? AWESOME!"
Come on, China and booming? HELL YEAH
Ottomans and trading? GIVE IT TO ME, i dont even care if the Sea Gate Castle is the best landmark i LOVE that shit
hey drongo, awesome content. I was wondering if you might be able to cast some civ vs variant civ matches like u did with juicy and china? I would love to see abba vs ayyubid if you have one of those in the archives. Thanks for the work u do!
Another Juicy Legacy game, another field day for the nerf police.
Drongo made a harmless joke, and immediately freaked out about being attacked by morons. What a time to be alive.
yey my daily dose of drongo!
The ONLY change needed for juicy is their dynasty cost reduction must be reworked. Everything else is fine
Calling out Don Artie as a think then calling him the butt of the joke 😂
Omg yessssssss. Loved that. As a former twink, I laughed out loud lol
"Don artie's not your average bear, he's more of a twink" 😂😂😭
Ring my Bell by Anita Ward. Banger
Drongo we need Outback Octagon!
When they nerfed ram health and buffed their armor they made Zhuge Nu too good against them. I'm not sure what their motivation was.
Mount Lu like Mount Everest Drongo, not mont
Livin la vida loca? Somewhere
I get ZXL winrate is not that crazy but its so unfun to play against, needs nerfs in some places and maybe changes to others to make it not feel as oppresive?
China….. oppressive…. 😂😆
I think Avely should have used the gone around a bit to build the battering rams so they would be against weaker and more undefended 🚫🛡 buildings. Rather than the outposts, which were not doing a lot economy wise.
That way their wood 🪵 destroyed/minute rate would be much, much higher and there would be more disruption in other forms such as in destroying the production buildings and increasing villager build time.
Especially because it would mean Avely would not be against the much more powerful landmark town centre with the battering rams.
Also, Avely should have really gone for fish 🐟 with ships or villagers considering the opponent had no offensive power to contest it at that point.
He did he had a mill out there
He did he had a mill out there
He didn't seem to fish with it though.@@alexkasljevich8097
How did crackedy go from 200 food to 2000 around minute 20 without trading with gold?
Not accusing anyone of anything, especially a player like him, just genuinely curious. Is there some sort of upgrade or did he select all villagers and tell them to turn in whatever they are holding. I can't math it
19:50 to be exact
Probably had been queuing units pretty deep, then cancelled them all at once.
And then back to 1000 food 1 min later
Couldn't have been that... He didn't have an units in queue
38 Villagers in queue would make the difference of roughly 1900 resources. With four towncenters possible, isn´t it? UI is not showing how many villagers are in queue.
1TC with 47 army units vs 4TC with one horseman.....
i think this game is not about zhu xi legancy. Even, Crakedhere playing other civ with 3TC or 4TC like that is still able to win.
Better said, when a guy with 47 army units vs 1 horseman, then still gets nothing for a very long long time. The game is already over no matter it is Zhu xi legancy or not.
But the win rate of Zhuxi is not that high, even at conq.
Hé have is own private Island
Have it from his father julio
The worst thing about playing against CIVs like juicy is that they are just so forgiving to the player playing them. The fact that they can just eco and tower out of everything, and the gameplan is simple! There is a fundamental problem when a team can be so cheaply self sufficient and they get a one size fits all unit, is just dumb.
Zhu xis legacy is a lot more diffcult to play than others... Or english... English is 1 star and chinese and ZXL is 3 star diffcult... Avely mistake in this game
China in general should have that ridiculous build speed perk nerfed.
@@grdks981 Are they harder lol? Whats so hard about turtling and then booming? Defensively they are one of the better teams, are they not? They have to nerf some combination of: Build speed, Meditation Gardens, Auto getting the Zhuge, the wood discount. Lightly i would say, but there are clear and present imbalances. The teams i really feel for are China and France, why would you ever play those now, they should get a little something to distinguish themselves from their much better variant civs.
@@andrewwoods7507 Yes they are harder to play, 3 stars against 1. And every pro player say that. Beasty already said that ZXL one of the hardest to play. And i already saw 2 others saying exactly the same, i dont remember who now... Maybe they need a nerf, but China and ZXL lose a lot. In this game the english player was terrible
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Love your videos,
Could you please say "Ohh lord, he's cumin" in your next video????
You sound really good when u say like that... ❤
the variants civs are just terrible to balance.
I watch all of your video Drongo but man this one just felt off in terms of the skill level. I feel like Avely just played terrible, so many mistakes and missed chances I that I don't really think it was just ZXL being OP
Dont need to be nerfed, avely not even scouted the map... LoL any player would already moved the army behind and whatever... Zzz
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The English player made alot of mistakes, made me cringe. The ZXL was just the better player.
Nah this was just poor english game. Have the med gardens been taken down that TC push was a win condition and all he needed there was one more ram. Considering he was banking 600 wood at that time it should've been games blouzes. Also insufficient scouting resulting in being scared of nothing. This game didn't go to žu či because they're busted.
nice to see zhu xu winning from time to time, i think theyre one of the weaker factions but people are just bad against them and claim broken lol
Again a content creator being biased against a 50.5% winrate civilisation, what a joke. You are the reason that the Chinese are unplayable for 99% of the playerbase
Have you ever watched this guy? He’s all in for China and juicy, he’s maimed China since the game was released and argued against every nerf they ever got. If he’s saying it should be nerfed, it must be SO bad that he can’t deny it without losing credibility.