@TheViper consider adding a scout or two to your army just to park them in the stealth forests. They give you massive LOS if you hide one in there, which allows for much more effective ambushing.
Doesn't help that, even though it looks good, every game mechanic is dumbed down from its predecessor (homing arrows for example) and the UI/keybinds are shite. It looks great on the surface, but the depth is lacking. That and it's an unwillingness to adapt
@@weerwolf theViper disagrees. I love how some AoE2 Players Sound like TV grandpas. "In my days, everything was better. Look at that perfect arrow. Only thing that makes rts have depth!" Duh
@@ReuterL It's just that less mechanics bring less depth in the long run. No highground bonus, 100% hits, houses that don't block pathing are all things that mean less interaction. At least AoE4 does add an additional interaction with the hideable terrain, but it loses many others. If there were more new ones it wouldn't be much of an issue, but there aren't any others. Same goes for UI/Keybinds. There are a lot of standards over the years and AoE4 misses a lot of them such as a patrol option. It is bringing less to the table than before, which is a pity. I like the game, don't get me wrong, but more because it is new and shiny.
@@weerwolf If AoE2 was created after AoE4 with new graphics, people would point out all the stuff changed and removed and say AoE2 was dumbed down. AoE4 is just a different game.
@@Sarge226 you clearly didn't read my comment. If you did then you would know exactly what I mean. The game is being trashed not because people actually have something to dislike about it, but because they need something to complain about so they say things like "but it isn't AoE2" and review bomb it.
The game looks gorgeous, but just like it took me a while to get used to the chaos of a fast paced aoe 2 I feel like it’ll take me a while to understand the chaos of a fast paced aoe 4
Damn Aoe 4 actually looks good. Like in the beginning it looks cartoonish, but the style kind of makes sense. But imo Aoe2 has not been defeated in the past 22 years becasue it's just that good. I doubt Aoe4 will change that.
To be honnest I really dislike AoE IV buildings style. They remind me a lot the buildings in Cossacks 3, they don't seem alive. Maybe some little banners being blown by the wind from here and there would be enough to improve this. Overall, the graphics don't feel like what I expected AoE IV would look like when I started waiting for it 10 years ago. I though it would be looking a lot better than AoE III (2007 version) and today it ends up looking actually a lot worse in my opinion. To conclude, I wouldn't say the game looks good for 2021 standards and certainly not assuming it is the sequel to AoE III. The sounds however are indeed very qualitative !
@@JSparo-TotalWarMachinima Yeah you're right, it looks like AoE4 is like a compromise of AoE3 and AoE2 (for example the gold and stone are like Aoe3 but are mined like in AoE2). If they did Definitive Edition of AoE2 they could make a new AoE more close to AoE2 and it would be great. But then again I myself don't know what they would have to do to make a great succesor to AoE2, because it is as a strategy game so perfectly well rounded and has everything you would wish for in a medieval, balanced strategy game ,covered.
@@BattleCookie404 There doesn't need to be a successor to AoE 2, and this game was never intended to be one. AoE 2 veterans seem so blinded by their one game they forget just how much the franchise has tried different things with each entry. AoE 3 isn't like AoE 2, nor is AoM and nor is AoE Online. Ironically, despite AoE 4 getting broadly positive reviews across the board (for an overall score of 82 on Metacritic), the most frequent criticism of it by reviewers is that it didn't take big risks.
I think aoe4 highlights the flaws of aoe2. Aoe2 at the pro scene is more about execution than strategy. You follow a strict build order, go for a certain unit type and try to snowball an advantage. Killing villagers is often easy to do if you get the opportunity, usually ending the game. I think aoe4 makes you focus much more on your army, and where and when to use it as well as getting to the proper composition. That said, it feels like aoe2 can be more action packed in the late game
@@willthebillstealthkillkell7776 longbow is a much much stronger unit in aoe2 In aoe4 its just a super skirm, bibers mistake was that he was playing trash army vs gold army the entire game
@@gihan84 yesnot only did he say he needed it when he realized the enemy went knights he also made mention to needing siege but he never built the crossbows and bearly built any siege.
Only HRE and Abbisids get them as a regular unit in their Siege Workshop. French also get a special Royal version, but only if they choose that landmark. Everyone else has to make do with Springalds and/or Bombards. I'd say only the Chinese Bombards can tangle effectively vrs Culverns. Most other Bombards and even French Cannons struggle due to only 10 range and poor hp for the cost.
I like the health regen out of combat mechanic. It brings a new way of fighting in the late game when all gold is gone. Army lasts longer. Otherwise you'd struggle rebuilding in those crazy end games. And for the love of God, stop comparing it to AoE2. Nothing, EVER, will be the same as that game. It's like ya'll want a new game, but it can't be any different, or else... Just play AoE2 DE then.. Anyway, WOLOLO ✌
It's obvious that the people who nitpick this game for not being aoe2 never intended to give this game a chance. They can't accept something that is different, even if it introduces a lot of good new features.
Which health regen out of combat mechanic do you mean? The English landmark, or the French Royal Knights? Every other healing mechanic happens with and without combat. Like, healing from Religious units, the Longbow Set Up Camp ability, various other buildings like docks and certain upgraded structures. I personally miss some form of hp regen from garrisoned units. A couple of those building upgrades that give regen remind me of that and I enjoy it for sure. But yeah, I'd still like some slow form of hp regen or maybe pay for replenishment or something?
@@notorioezz this is only true for French Royal Knights. No other unit auto regenerates in any way. You might be thinking of the Set Up Camp ability. That is a manually controlled ability that works regardless of combat state.
Best part about english lategame is that one of the age 4 landmarks give you almost 1 of each stable/archery range/barracks and a trebuchet unit every minute. you get so many trebs its prety wack
I’m new to AOE franchise. I bought AOE 2 and 3 definitive and played until 4 came out. I’m not struck with nostalgia and I can easily say that AOE 4 is the best one. It will just get better as the years go by too.
@@Bruno-ki9iz I love aoe2, but honestly, that is the game that needs to die. When they are charging £8 for a DLC that consists of a couple of campaigns and 2 new nations, it is clear they are out of ideas. They don't want to mix things up and are just trying to milk the community's loyalty. On the other hand, I fully expect aoe4 to fail. I have not brought it, I hate the fact they pulled features such as the scenario editor, and I think some of the design decisions are bazaar. But if aoe4 does well, it has more potential to grow, change and thrive than aoe2, so I hope it can outlive aoe2 development.
Aoe2 was a masterpiece when it first came out but 20 years of improvement just cannot be ignored. People forget how much difference there is between aoe2:de and aoe2:aok. I suggest people that criticize this game to download age of kings demo and play it. I know there is a 20 years difference between the two, but still, aoe4 definetely released in a good state. It's not perfect, but it has a good enough base to improve.
@@sevenpolar3483 I'm not an expert in British money but is £8 such a large sum? In continental Europe each DLC costs less than a meal.... I think it's fair for 2 new civs and a couple of campaigns....
Well, compared to what? Longbows have higher damage output than any other foot archer, except for the Chinese Zhuge Nu. (Which is nearly useless vrs armored targets) I think a key factor for effective fights with English is to always maintain the Network of Castles buff no matter where one is fighting. 25% increased attack speed, then 50% with the Imperial upgrade, super strong. Sadly, it's not exactly the 25% and 50% values as advertised, but it does make a big difference with ranged units. For some reason, it doesn't look like it helps melee units, oddly enough??? But yeah, I'd rather have Longbows in almost all cases, compared to other ranged infantry. Running away from fights is one of the only advantages that the others have. Longbows are at 1.12 tiles per second, compared to like 1.25 for others. Some of those can get speed buffs where LBs lack that option.
Bruh, who looks at the mini map late game? 😅 It's explored and it's constant warfare. Ain't nobody got time for that. You mention it because you watch a video. In game you won't even notice it
A mecânica de jogo do age 4 é muito complexa e difícil de aprender e acostumar!!! Apesar dos gráficos excelentes e uma boa diversão nas lutas, é totalmente diferente a forma de jogar dos ages anteriores!!!
By the time I arrived in the comment section it contained nothing but people complaining about the content of the comment section. Like, I'm sure people are complaining that it's not aoe 2 hyper de but the backlash to the backlash to the thing that's just begun is definitely in full swing.
Viper falling victim to the annoying feature that it is not mentioned the English ☕ get the hardened spearmen upgrade for free at the expense of not getting spearmen in dark age in their civilisation bonuses list. It is really the fault of the confusing list not mentioning the very important detail.
@@TheBlackfall234 there are people here literally complaining about everything that is not exactely copied 1:1 out of AoE2. Now you come here and complain about the opposite? I don't get it. If you do not like it or do not wan't to pay these extreme prices that is ok and i get that. But this complaining about everything under every AoE4 Video is really annoying you know?
True but if you compare it too irl, there wasn't really a good defence against it till at least the 1500s for England anyways with the introduction of Star Forts for seige wise.
bad played! u built siege weapons way too late and u didnt kill the monastery when it was possible. it gives him so much credits... overall u didnt heal ur arrow units and u placed the spikes also way too late or not at all.
Not enough time to set them up. Any Longbows using that ability are locked to that animation until it's finished, unless commanded to do something else. Which would waste the ability and put it on cooldown. It's one of those things you have to setup before a fight starts, usually. If the enemy is close enough to shoot at, it's too late.
Viper - waking up at 6-7 (just after the sunrise) is the best for our body due to thousands of years human body adjustment to nature. Even better then at 8 or 9am ))
I love: - the farms - the landmarks - the terrain looks amazing especially the mountains - the small roads - the fact civs play very differently - that there is no score - pathing of villagers - scary looking siege - the fog and exploration - hiding in the bushes - the traders But I dislike everything else :(
> In AgeOfEmpires, late game is when you can afford anything thanks to your wealthy economy. So what is the most powerful army composition ? Try Delhi Sultanate War Elephants!
Okay, the best AoE4 upgrade: the mini-map actually shows Fog of War. I could not stand that in AoE2; the minimap showed no difference between fog of war and completely revealed, so you couldn't tell at a glance where an enemy dot could show up from.
Hey bro I figured it out, select farm, hover over the mill, hold shift, then start left clicking, it will automatically place the farms around the mill. It actually works for any building, if you click one down while holding shift, you can just keep left clicking and it’ll start building more of that same building around where your cursor is
The people thinking AOE4 is not going to dethrone AOE2 are so deluded, this looks amazing and is going to have strong legs, especially once expansions add more civs and campaigns.
@@gonza.007facu Based on what? the fact that its barely been out and all the strategy is being figured out still means we got plenty of room. From what I have seen, still have the same great things from AOE 2, early feudal rushes vs castle age, fast castling, booming, military heavy. Added that sacred sites make religious units more useful. Has a nice complex counter system like 2. Are there balance tweaks, sure, but AOE 2 has 20 years of balance tweaks.
@@MkZuO12345 Ok sure, aoe2 fans need to realize we are a niche, and given that aoe4 is attracting all sort of RTS players outside of aoe2 I think the "novelty" will keep people around.
I think that's absolutely necessary if you give civs stuff like M@A in Age1. What else do you want to do? FIght them with Spearmen? I think it's good design. You can punish greedy players with early rushes and you can idle them a bit, but it won't win you the game immediately.
@@TohoBuWaha Range attacks in RTS is mechanically better than melee, this is a design choce that makes range strong and melee weak above and beyond that general inbalance. I guess we'll see how it shakes out over time but I think we'll see very little dark age play unless maps are changed slightly.
@@matthewmcneany Again: There should not be a lot of Dark Age play. It's for some harrass options for certain civs. But if that's too strong (and heavy Dark Age play becomes meta), they would either need to nerf it, or give Dark Age options to all civs. Dark Age got a bit more interesting than other Age games, but it's still just a starting age
What's funny is that people are complaining about people complaining (and now I guess I'm adding a third layer to that lol). Let everyone complain in peace guys. If someone has a different opinion than you then who cares? Not everyone has to like the game and not everyone has to hate it. Let's just take a chill pill.
When he wants to, he plays a couple games of AOE4 and you're rushing to ask for the next one like there isn't thousands of hours of content already in the channel.
Archer micro is hardly the be all and end all of skill in RTS. Most RTS don't even have such a thing, including the most competitive of them all Starcraft. Meanwhile AoE 2 has zero unit abilities. AoE 4 has a fair number of them (not as many as Starcraft 2 or Red Alert 3, but a lot more than AoE 2). Is that not considered skill? Does it not require skill to use those well?
@@ArawnOfAnnwn I don't care about skill in that context. It just looks strange to see cruise missile arrows with speed of light. I guess I will buy that game at one point. At the moment I think the artstyle is a little off, sepecially the UI, the units have not enough texture... all can be fixed quite easily I think.. maybe by fan mods... and one personal reason: I love playing iberian civs .. They are still missing 11
I like it as it is. For me the problem with such games like Warcraft and Starcraft (Warcraft a little less) with their one million skills, previsible maps, fixed strategies and glorification of the "micro" is that this is not strategy, just reflexes and speed thinking. Of course fast thinking must be a thng, given Chess for exemple, but having those fixed strats with focus on execution and micro is something I'll never accept as "strategy"; is more of a "moba" than a strategy game actually. And is just depressing seeing the AoE 2's comunity's badside talking so much shit just because the game is "too random", "too confusing" or "too macro"; randomness makes its part of battles, being no able to macro or not necessary means you can make decisions (in this case, not generally), and most of the confusion is just for them, the ones that always had the fixed strategies, not being able to pop out the same moves every game. I agree the game has many problems, mainly on balance; but man, there is not even 1 day since launch yet.
This is a glorified mobile game. I thought AoE3 was an abomination, but this sunk the franchise to depths I never saw coming. The game is an oversimplified RTS that randomly carried over some elements from AoE2. It's an absolute disgrace but hey, it's new and costs like a triple A game so it must be good...Idiocracy has arrived.
They removed all the things that were making Age of Empires unique. The score, the walling (including the ability to quickwall), the specific aesthetic, the sound environment, the importance of micro etc... they could have modernized all of these things without removing them completely. Now it's just a generic RTS.
They have modernized them, its called the Definitive Edition. They said AoE 4 would be it's own thing from the getgo, at no stage did they mention wanting to be close to AoE 2 in terms of gameplay. The incredibly assymetric civs give it it's idenitity.
@@Internoobs but when you make such a big game like Aoe 2 you don't want to change that much. imagine the league of legends team is making a new leage of legends but omitting everything that defines the game. 95 percent of the games on the market are mediocre. there are a few pearls. they should be preserved
Aoe4 sucks for people that love Aoe2. But overall is a good thing. They were doing the stupidiest things with the new civs. Now they are gonna put all the "creativity" on aoe4 and we still have the best game ever for us :D. Only thing thats bad is that they are all streaming aoe4 and not Aoe2 but i think thats gonna change pretty quickly
I disagree about this. If you like the aoe2 mechanics play aoe2. If aoe4 was just a copy of aoe2 it would also be criticized. I'm glad they tried new things, some of the changes are very cool and thoughtful but my biggest problem with the game is how confusing and clunky it is.
So many strange and seemingly arbitrary decisions. Longbows are trash units, siege units are tanky and undodgeable, UI elements are scattered all over the place, structure attacks animate in slow motion... and I see we're doing that "upgradable buildings" thing again, after having been tried and discarded by multiple major RTS franchises over the years.
@@2009feedback is not a viable solution because if you want to have a far position defend you need to have also around there and 8 vil...better have cost repair and lower dmg on cannons
don't get the point of this game; just a mix of aoe2 and 3 no point in playing it, i'm sure pro are playing it just for the prize pool of the tournament
I love you viper but we're bored shitless of this weird mobile age of empires game you guys keep obviously promoting for Microsoft. Back to normal aoe2 content when?
I've watched a few videos of AOE4 now. I don't like this game. I don't like how it looks, I don't like how it sounds. And I definitely don't like the gameplay if you can call it that. It looks messy and random.
@@backfischritter i was responde op up there. To me age 4 is superior and it has only recently launched so it will get better. Age 2 is far more messier.
You're saying that like he didn't upload a video about AOE2 after this one hours before your comment. Do you really lose all hope in humanity and think the game is dead because he dared played a new game for a change? ... are you ok?
Bro there's like a million aoe2 videos on this channel, let us enjoy a little innovation, we're all excited to see how the game evolves with pro playes.
@@victor6010 Crazy how people like you go nuts when someone decides to play another game for a bit. The irony is so many streamers stick to one game their entire careers because if they try to do anything different they lose all their money because of people like you. And finally, yeah dude he plays video games for a living. Why are you acting like there's some moral imperative for him to play AoE2 only for the rest of his life?
@TheViper consider adding a scout or two to your army just to park them in the stealth forests. They give you massive LOS if you hide one in there, which allows for much more effective ambushing.
Man, the comment section in here really ain't a fan of this game, huh?
Doesn't help that, even though it looks good, every game mechanic is dumbed down from its predecessor (homing arrows for example) and the UI/keybinds are shite. It looks great on the surface, but the depth is lacking. That and it's an unwillingness to adapt
@@weerwolf theViper disagrees. I love how some AoE2 Players Sound like TV grandpas. "In my days, everything was better. Look at that perfect arrow. Only thing that makes rts have depth!" Duh
@@ReuterL It's just that less mechanics bring less depth in the long run. No highground bonus, 100% hits, houses that don't block pathing are all things that mean less interaction. At least AoE4 does add an additional interaction with the hideable terrain, but it loses many others. If there were more new ones it wouldn't be much of an issue, but there aren't any others.
Same goes for UI/Keybinds. There are a lot of standards over the years and AoE4 misses a lot of them such as a patrol option.
It is bringing less to the table than before, which is a pity. I like the game, don't get me wrong, but more because it is new and shiny.
@@weerwolf If AoE2 was created after AoE4 with new graphics, people would point out all the stuff changed and removed and say AoE2 was dumbed down.
AoE4 is just a different game.
@@weerwolf Have you ever played AoE 3 or any relic games?
The sound of the game is amazing. I love how they whisper when are hidding. The sound of the siege is very loud sometimes.
What a freakin toxic community AoE2 became over night, sheesh.
They just rage quitting way too early
It’s toxic to not like a game?
@@Sarge226 if trashing a game because it isn't a copy and paste of AoE2 isn't toxic then I don't know what is
@@bro3217 Really? You can’t think of a single example of behavior more toxic than not liking a video game?
@@Sarge226 you clearly didn't read my comment. If you did then you would know exactly what I mean. The game is being trashed not because people actually have something to dislike about it, but because they need something to complain about so they say things like "but it isn't AoE2" and review bomb it.
The game looks gorgeous, but just like it took me a while to get used to the chaos of a fast paced aoe 2 I feel like it’ll take me a while to understand the chaos of a fast paced aoe 4
I like how each individual unit is more easily noticeable
checked the Q ability of the archers @theviper as britain it's very good vs cav
What is that spaghetti animation when you click something?
I think its supposed to be like a signal fire kind of animation.
@@williampounds5191 Italian spaghetti 🍝 mama Mia mi casa
It is signaling the gather point
LOL looks horrible to me too
It is god extracting spaghetti from ground toward the heavens
Damn Aoe 4 actually looks good. Like in the beginning it looks cartoonish, but the style kind of makes sense.
But imo Aoe2 has not been defeated in the past 22 years becasue it's just that good. I doubt Aoe4 will change that.
Not even a million vertical lightningbolt animations will change that XD
To be honnest I really dislike AoE IV buildings style. They remind me a lot the buildings in Cossacks 3, they don't seem alive. Maybe some little banners being blown by the wind from here and there would be enough to improve this.
Overall, the graphics don't feel like what I expected AoE IV would look like when I started waiting for it 10 years ago. I though it would be looking a lot better than AoE III (2007 version) and today it ends up looking actually a lot worse in my opinion.
To conclude, I wouldn't say the game looks good for 2021 standards and certainly not assuming it is the sequel to AoE III. The sounds however are indeed very qualitative !
@@JSparo-TotalWarMachinima Yeah you're right, it looks like AoE4 is like a compromise of AoE3 and AoE2 (for example the gold and stone are like Aoe3 but are mined like in AoE2). If they did Definitive Edition of AoE2 they could make a new AoE more close to AoE2 and it would be great.
But then again I myself don't know what they would have to do to make a great succesor to AoE2, because it is as a strategy game so perfectly well rounded and has everything you would wish for in a medieval, balanced strategy game ,covered.
@@BattleCookie404 There doesn't need to be a successor to AoE 2, and this game was never intended to be one. AoE 2 veterans seem so blinded by their one game they forget just how much the franchise has tried different things with each entry. AoE 3 isn't like AoE 2, nor is AoM and nor is AoE Online. Ironically, despite AoE 4 getting broadly positive reviews across the board (for an overall score of 82 on Metacritic), the most frequent criticism of it by reviewers is that it didn't take big risks.
I think aoe4 highlights the flaws of aoe2. Aoe2 at the pro scene is more about execution than strategy. You follow a strict build order, go for a certain unit type and try to snowball an advantage. Killing villagers is often easy to do if you get the opportunity, usually ending the game. I think aoe4 makes you focus much more on your army, and where and when to use it as well as getting to the proper composition. That said, it feels like aoe2 can be more action packed in the late game
The siege is insane, I just 2v1 d with the French seige scattershot unit. It annihilated armies allowing me to capture the sacred sites
viper, honest question, do you really like this game?
Don't think so. Why else would he only build 3 siege and longbow knowing he's up against cav
@@willthebillstealthkillkell7776 longbow is a much much stronger unit in aoe2
In aoe4 its just a super skirm, bibers mistake was that he was playing trash army vs gold army the entire game
@@willthebillstealthkillkell7776 what he needed was crossbowmen
@@gihan84 yesnot only did he say he needed it when he realized the enemy went knights he also made mention to needing siege but he never built the crossbows and bearly built any siege.
He sucks at the game so probably doesn't like it
I feel like palisade walls could have been helpful on the bottom/right side. They aren't too expensive.
You should check the culverins. I think those are the imperial version of springwalds in that they counter siege.
Only HRE and Abbisids get them as a regular unit in their Siege Workshop. French also get a special Royal version, but only if they choose that landmark. Everyone else has to make do with Springalds and/or Bombards. I'd say only the Chinese Bombards can tangle effectively vrs Culverns. Most other Bombards and even French Cannons struggle due to only 10 range and poor hp for the cost.
I like the health regen out of combat mechanic. It brings a new way of fighting in the late game when all gold is gone. Army lasts longer. Otherwise you'd struggle rebuilding in those crazy end games.
And for the love of God, stop comparing it to AoE2. Nothing, EVER, will be the same as that game. It's like ya'll want a new game, but it can't be any different, or else... Just play AoE2 DE then..
Anyway, WOLOLO ✌
It's obvious that the people who nitpick this game for not being aoe2 never intended to give this game a chance. They can't accept something that is different, even if it introduces a lot of good new features.
Which health regen out of combat mechanic do you mean? The English landmark, or the French Royal Knights? Every other healing mechanic happens with and without combat. Like, healing from Religious units, the Longbow Set Up Camp ability, various other buildings like docks and certain upgraded structures.
I personally miss some form of hp regen from garrisoned units. A couple of those building upgrades that give regen remind me of that and I enjoy it for sure. But yeah, I'd still like some slow form of hp regen or maybe pay for replenishment or something?
@@hybralisk There's an upgrade that lets units restore health when out of combat for a certain time.
@@notorioezz this is only true for French Royal Knights. No other unit auto regenerates in any way. You might be thinking of the Set Up Camp ability. That is a manually controlled ability that works regardless of combat state.
Best part about english lategame is that one of the age 4 landmarks give you almost 1 of each stable/archery range/barracks and a trebuchet unit every minute. you get so many trebs its prety wack
I’m new to AOE franchise. I bought AOE 2 and 3 definitive and played until 4 came out. I’m not struck with nostalgia and I can easily say that AOE 4 is the best one. It will just get better as the years go by too.
lol
It will be the best by far once they add more features, like speeding the game up because the start is painfully slow.
I think you should really make some crossbows against so many knights.
Aoe 2 de have improved 20years with many expansion and update, it’s balance and complete. Aoe 4 needs time, expansion and updates to beyond aoe 2 de
aoe 4 needs to die
@@Bruno-ki9iz No.
@@Bruno-ki9iz I love aoe2, but honestly, that is the game that needs to die. When they are charging £8 for a DLC that consists of a couple of campaigns and 2 new nations, it is clear they are out of ideas. They don't want to mix things up and are just trying to milk the community's loyalty.
On the other hand, I fully expect aoe4 to fail. I have not brought it, I hate the fact they pulled features such as the scenario editor, and I think some of the design decisions are bazaar. But if aoe4 does well, it has more potential to grow, change and thrive than aoe2, so I hope it can outlive aoe2 development.
Aoe2 was a masterpiece when it first came out but 20 years of improvement just cannot be ignored. People forget how much difference there is between aoe2:de and aoe2:aok. I suggest people that criticize this game to download age of kings demo and play it. I know there is a 20 years difference between the two, but still, aoe4 definetely released in a good state. It's not perfect, but it has a good enough base to improve.
@@sevenpolar3483 I'm not an expert in British money but is £8 such a large sum? In continental Europe each DLC costs less than a meal.... I think it's fair for 2 new civs and a couple of campaigns....
Haven't played any AOE or AOM since I was a kid, I'm 28 now. Finishing uni in 3 weeks and will instantly buy this game.
28 finishing uni? What are you studying, medicine?
@@elodin857 Bingo
The longbow man too week in damage
Well, compared to what? Longbows have higher damage output than any other foot archer, except for the Chinese Zhuge Nu. (Which is nearly useless vrs armored targets) I think a key factor for effective fights with English is to always maintain the Network of Castles buff no matter where one is fighting. 25% increased attack speed, then 50% with the Imperial upgrade, super strong. Sadly, it's not exactly the 25% and 50% values as advertised, but it does make a big difference with ranged units. For some reason, it doesn't look like it helps melee units, oddly enough???
But yeah, I'd rather have Longbows in almost all cases, compared to other ranged infantry. Running away from fights is one of the only advantages that the others have. Longbows are at 1.12 tiles per second, compared to like 1.25 for others. Some of those can get speed buffs where LBs lack that option.
19:20 Why are you running from the Cavalry with your longbows? Sticks into ground and let them run into you, lol. Pays to play the campaign, IMO.
takes time to put the sticks into the ground...
Compared to Aoe2 this was so much more stressful to watch! Loved it Viper
Just here to comment how awesome and fun Aoe 4 is for me and my buddy. After reading the comments here I had to.
Watch the full Age of Empires IV Norman campaign
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Minimap at 42:12 is basically unreadable.
It's crazy, such a basic thing, it's like they didn't test late game
Bruh, who looks at the mini map late game? 😅 It's explored and it's constant warfare. Ain't nobody got time for that. You mention it because you watch a video. In game you won't even notice it
A mecânica de jogo do age 4 é muito complexa e difícil de aprender e acostumar!!! Apesar dos gráficos excelentes e uma boa diversão nas lutas, é totalmente diferente a forma de jogar dos ages anteriores!!!
By the time I arrived in the comment section it contained nothing but people complaining about the content of the comment section. Like, I'm sure people are complaining that it's not aoe 2 hyper de but the backlash to the backlash to the thing that's just begun is definitely in full swing.
I don't know but you're just starting a backlash to the backlash to the backlash here... be more positive plis!
Viper falling victim to the annoying feature that it is not mentioned the English ☕ get the hardened spearmen upgrade for free at the expense of not getting spearmen in dark age in their civilisation bonuses list.
It is really the fault of the confusing list not mentioning the very important detail.
Good to see pros playing aoe4.
For everyone basically complaining about the fact that AoE4 is not AoE2 with better grapics, have you ever heard about the definitive editions? 11
yeah thats what most people say, AoE4 is not needed at all. Its a nice game, but unnecessary. At least to me.
@@TheBlackfall234 huh?
@@TheBlackfall234 there are people here literally complaining about everything that is not exactely copied 1:1 out of AoE2. Now you come here and complain about the opposite? I don't get it. If you do not like it or do not wan't to pay these extreme prices that is ok and i get that. But this complaining about everything under every AoE4 Video is really annoying you know?
@@backfischritter they are like the grandpas complaining about how everything was better in their days even tho they are just blinded by nostalgia
YOU CAN HIDE IN FORESTS AND CROSS THEM (GO IN) LIKE IN TOTAL WAR? NICE!
Town Center reminds me of Age of Mythology
This underwhelming and overwhelming at the same time
But damn looks this game good. Going back to age2 after watching this really hurts my eyes. Sad.
I like it but most people prefer aoe2 graphics
wo wo wo, how did bro in the 1st 10 seconds get sheep and then auto send them to town centre?! Hotkeys I guess
Siege was always my favorite so I’m cool with that.
CASTLE WITH MOAT AND PONT LEVIS: NICE!
All of you guys thinking that AoE 4 has come here to dethrone AoE 2 are so so wrong...
@@gonza.007facu well, AoE4 is more like AoE3, AoE2 and AoM put together, with focus on AoE2.
TWO SORTS OF CASTLE: DEFENSIVE OR AGRESSIVE: NICE IDEA!
AOE 4 looks amazing! The Viper making it look effortless as alway :D
I really dislike how strong gunpowder is in this game...
True but if you compare it too irl, there wasn't really a good defence against it till at least the 1500s for England anyways with the introduction of Star Forts for seige wise.
bad played! u built siege weapons way too late and u didnt kill the monastery when it was possible. it gives him so much credits... overall u didnt heal ur arrow units and u placed the spikes also way too late or not at all.
Furthermore u could easily kill him in early when u would have built battering ram
damn the salt here
feels worse than aoe 2 tbh :D
why didn't viper put down palings during the first major battle?
Not enough time to set them up. Any Longbows using that ability are locked to that animation until it's finished, unless commanded to do something else. Which would waste the ability and put it on cooldown. It's one of those things you have to setup before a fight starts, usually. If the enemy is close enough to shoot at, it's too late.
Viper - waking up at 6-7 (just after the sunrise) is the best for our body due to thousands of years human body adjustment to nature. Even better then at 8 or 9am ))
I love:
- the farms
- the landmarks
- the terrain looks amazing especially the mountains
- the small roads
- the fact civs play very differently
- that there is no score
- pathing of villagers
- scary looking siege
- the fog and exploration
- hiding in the bushes
- the traders
But I dislike everything else :(
I'm not able to watch this games till the end, after 10 mins I get bored. AOE2 is much more interesting and exiciting.
@Justice that could be
No going hoang here
And there you go, with your little game on your little pedestal.
Stick to your ancient game with your set strategy and build orders you got mastered.
That's odd seeing how AoE2 takes significantly longer to build up.
5 stages of denial. This comment section has all of them smh
Can't see the map clearly with the chat overlay
OO, closed after 2:00
How do people place farms instantly like that?
Select villager, hot keys Q then A. Hold mouse over mill or town center and hold shift and press left click as many times you want.
He wasted up so many knights... surprising ending here. Age of siege!
> In AgeOfEmpires, late game is when you can afford anything thanks to your wealthy economy. So what is the most powerful army composition ?
Try Delhi Sultanate War Elephants!
I saw that more than siege looks like thanks
19:26 can haeavy cavelerry follow you into the woods?
Comment section is like the Hundred years war
You rarely use spikes on longbowman against cavalry
Game looks fun, but they really need to balance the siege weapons lol
Loving the AOE 4 content!
I subscribed for more AoE4 content! :)
So how he liking it so far ?
Can you please make a guide on your hotkeys? :)
Okay, the best AoE4 upgrade: the mini-map actually shows Fog of War. I could not stand that in AoE2; the minimap showed no difference between fog of war and completely revealed, so you couldn't tell at a glance where an enemy dot could show up from.
How do farms perfect? With no move the mouse
Click on the mill when placing the farms - they will be automatically placed in the right spot
@@thatguywiththeface9463 ooo ty😨😎
How did he make farms so quickly at 14:50?
Would also like to know, his cursor stayed on the mill while they started being built. Maybe a hot key?
Hey bro I figured it out, select farm, hover over the mill, hold shift, then start left clicking, it will automatically place the farms around the mill. It actually works for any building, if you click one down while holding shift, you can just keep left clicking and it’ll start building more of that same building around where your cursor is
6:22 это был такой русский understand
The people thinking AOE4 is not going to dethrone AOE2 are so deluded, this looks amazing and is going to have strong legs, especially once expansions add more civs and campaigns.
It will not. Once the novelty wears off people with start abandoning it.
@@MkZuO12345 we will see about that..
@@gonza.007facu Based on what? the fact that its barely been out and all the strategy is being figured out still means we got plenty of room. From what I have seen, still have the same great things from AOE 2, early feudal rushes vs castle age, fast castling, booming, military heavy. Added that sacred sites make religious units more useful. Has a nice complex counter system like 2. Are there balance tweaks, sure, but AOE 2 has 20 years of balance tweaks.
@@MkZuO12345 Ok sure, aoe2 fans need to realize we are a niche, and given that aoe4 is attracting all sort of RTS players outside of aoe2 I think the "novelty" will keep people around.
Get ready to pay for two civs per expansion 😂
Having all the starting resco except deer in range of the TC seems not great map/game design.
I think that's absolutely necessary if you give civs stuff like M@A in Age1. What else do you want to do? FIght them with Spearmen?
I think it's good design. You can punish greedy players with early rushes and you can idle them a bit, but it won't win you the game immediately.
@@TohoBuWaha Range attacks in RTS is mechanically better than melee, this is a design choce that makes range strong and melee weak above and beyond that general inbalance. I guess we'll see how it shakes out over time but I think we'll see very little dark age play unless maps are changed slightly.
Not all maps are designed that way
@@matthewmcneany Again: There should not be a lot of Dark Age play. It's for some harrass options for certain civs. But if that's too strong (and heavy Dark Age play becomes meta), they would either need to nerf it, or give Dark Age options to all civs. Dark Age got a bit more interesting than other Age games, but it's still just a starting age
What do you think about those ingame icons? I expected them to be colored like any other aoe games
They are generic and uninspired. And really hard to distinguish from one another. This has a really bad UI design.
@@alkostach EXACTLY!
What's funny is that people are complaining about people complaining (and now I guess I'm adding a third layer to that lol). Let everyone complain in peace guys. If someone has a different opinion than you then who cares? Not everyone has to like the game and not everyone has to hate it. Let's just take a chill pill.
Lol I love these aoe2 fans tears. Been dealing with their stuck up sense of superiority since I was a pre teen lol
Don't know what I think of this game yet, but the KA-CHUNK sound every time a building is selected is pretty irritating.
When you showing aoe2 again?
When he wants to, he plays a couple games of AOE4 and you're rushing to ask for the next one like there isn't thousands of hours of content already in the channel.
Where do you see a rush?
Just want know the schedule.
Did you mother not feed you this morning? Whats with the snowflake behavior...
Removing accuracy as a factor flattened the skill curve a bit, if that is a good thing remains to be seen.
Archer micro is hardly the be all and end all of skill in RTS. Most RTS don't even have such a thing, including the most competitive of them all Starcraft. Meanwhile AoE 2 has zero unit abilities. AoE 4 has a fair number of them (not as many as Starcraft 2 or Red Alert 3, but a lot more than AoE 2). Is that not considered skill? Does it not require skill to use those well?
@@ArawnOfAnnwn but is it fun though?
@@ArawnOfAnnwn I don't care about skill in that context. It just looks strange to see cruise missile arrows with speed of light. I guess I will buy that game at one point. At the moment I think the artstyle is a little off, sepecially the UI, the units have not enough texture... all can be fixed quite easily I think.. maybe by fan mods... and one personal reason: I love playing iberian civs .. They are still missing 11
@@mailboro i agree with you but it plays really well.
I like it as it is. For me the problem with such games like Warcraft and Starcraft (Warcraft a little less) with their one million skills, previsible maps, fixed strategies and glorification of the "micro" is that this is not strategy, just reflexes and speed thinking. Of course fast thinking must be a thng, given Chess for exemple, but having those fixed strats with focus on execution and micro is something I'll never accept as "strategy"; is more of a "moba" than a strategy game actually. And is just depressing seeing the AoE 2's comunity's badside talking so much shit just because the game is "too random", "too confusing" or "too macro"; randomness makes its part of battles, being no able to macro or not necessary means you can make decisions (in this case, not generally), and most of the confusion is just for them, the ones that always had the fixed strategies, not being able to pop out the same moves every game. I agree the game has many problems, mainly on balance; but man, there is not even 1 day since launch yet.
Every time I look the HRE seems so effective but I can not help to think the civ looks uninspired ... ;)
OP Canons were the main reason i disliked AoE3 besides the Campaign. Hope its not gonna end up like that in AoE4
This is a glorified mobile game. I thought AoE3 was an abomination, but this sunk the franchise to depths I never saw coming.
The game is an oversimplified RTS that randomly carried over some elements from AoE2. It's an absolute disgrace but hey, it's new and costs like a triple A game so it must be good...Idiocracy has arrived.
Pikeman are weirdly not combat winners against cavalary, but resource winners - they never win combats 1 by 1 lol.
Am I the only one who doesn’t like the look of aoe4?
no
12:40 wait seriously, showing score isnt in aoe4??
that seems entirely backwards to the emphasis of this game having multiplayer centric design...
yeah and scnaning with a farm isn't possible. What a let down. No integrated cheats at all
They removed all the things that were making Age of Empires unique. The score, the walling (including the ability to quickwall), the specific aesthetic, the sound environment, the importance of micro etc... they could have modernized all of these things without removing them completely. Now it's just a generic RTS.
Yeah you’re right unfortunately. The palisade and walls is at the heart of aoe2, and the reason why I personally didn’t enjoy aoe3 or most other rts.
They have modernized them, its called the Definitive Edition. They said AoE 4 would be it's own thing from the getgo, at no stage did they mention wanting to be close to AoE 2 in terms of gameplay. The incredibly assymetric civs give it it's idenitity.
@@Internoobs but when you make such a big game like Aoe 2 you don't want to change that much. imagine the league of legends team is making a new leage of legends but omitting everything that defines the game. 95 percent of the games on the market are mediocre. there are a few pearls. they should be preserved
Aoe4 sucks for people that love Aoe2. But overall is a good thing. They were doing the stupidiest things with the new civs. Now they are gonna put all the "creativity" on aoe4 and we still have the best game ever for us :D.
Only thing thats bad is that they are all streaming aoe4 and not Aoe2 but i think thats gonna change pretty quickly
I disagree about this. If you like the aoe2 mechanics play aoe2. If aoe4 was just a copy of aoe2 it would also be criticized. I'm glad they tried new things, some of the changes are very cool and thoughtful but my biggest problem with the game is how confusing and clunky it is.
Ok...um....cool
So many strange and seemingly arbitrary decisions. Longbows are trash units, siege units are tanky and undodgeable, UI elements are scattered all over the place, structure attacks animate in slow motion... and I see we're doing that "upgradable buildings" thing again, after having been tried and discarded by multiple major RTS franchises over the years.
Nerf siege , simple castles and walls are useless
There are no cost for repair, so it is worth to have at least 7-8 vills to counter-repair for free.
@@2009feedback is not a viable solution because if you want to have a far position defend you need to have also around there and 8 vil...better have cost repair and lower dmg on cannons
@@2009feedback That makes NO sense.. 8 vil's on repair means 8 vil's not gathering resources which means a huge cost.
Siege is quite slow and super expensive. Doesn't seem all that OP
No more II?
No he will play Aoe II just for now everyone is going to check out IV. Its kinda like vipy with AOEIII and AOM
@@HetmanHetmanovich Yeah, I was kinda thinkin' that also. It's new and it's got a lot of cool features.
@@HetmanHetmanovich I don't know, they will likely run a tournament at some point, Viper might keep playing until the tournament ends
Your reaction at the end of the game is golden. Excellent way to use the defeat to learn and grow. That is some good vibes!
don't get the point of this game; just a mix of aoe2 and 3 no point in playing it, i'm sure pro are playing it just for the prize pool of the tournament
I love you viper but we're bored shitless of this weird mobile age of empires game you guys keep obviously promoting for Microsoft.
Back to normal aoe2 content when?
Nah aoe4 is the main event now , aoe2 is as good as dead as the pros shift over. Trying to keep aoe2 alive will only harm the age franchise
I've watched a few videos of AOE4 now. I don't like this game. I don't like how it looks, I don't like how it sounds. And I definitely don't like the gameplay if you can call it that. It looks messy and random.
more messy and random than Age 2?
Yeah some people generally don't like new stuff, that is ok.
@@andregalhardo3978 the pathing of the units is good in AoE4 as far as i have experienced, so can you specify random?
@@backfischritter i was responde op up there. To me age 4 is superior and it has only recently launched so it will get better. Age 2 is far more messier.
can you elaborate what is messy and random? if anything this game is more linear than AoE2
I miss Aoe2
You're saying that like he didn't upload a video about AOE2 after this one hours before your comment. Do you really lose all hope in humanity and think the game is dead because he dared played a new game for a change?
... are you ok?
aoe2 content vipi plzzzzzz..
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Bro there's like a million aoe2 videos on this channel, let us enjoy a little innovation, we're all excited to see how the game evolves with pro playes.
Yeah.... who cares about aoe 4 dude, but money talks louder to these guys I guess
@@victor6010 Crazy how people like you go nuts when someone decides to play another game for a bit. The irony is so many streamers stick to one game their entire careers because if they try to do anything different they lose all their money because of people like you. And finally, yeah dude he plays video games for a living. Why are you acting like there's some moral imperative for him to play AoE2 only for the rest of his life?
@@El__Gil seen all of them bro. :)
Someone can put a great comment trying to convince about this new "fun" Aoe?
I beg of you.. please stop playing this stupid game..
why dont indian people like aoe4
@@ahmetcan7979 they have old potatoes that can't handle good graphics I guess.
3D is definitely unnecessary in AOE. Studio should better bring content to AOE 2 Definitive Edition, the original.
play aoe2
Watch his 3 billion hours of AOE2 and let him play another game too.