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Football Manager throws so much information at you from scouting to tactics to coaches that it is worth making this video on its own. You need to know what information you can ignore on FM so you can focus on the stuff that matters. The wonderkid hunting and the whole beating PSG thing that we talk so much about. Filtering information so you can move along with your save also just helps Football Manager feel better as a game, which is good for you and it’s good for me because then you watch more of my FM videos or something.
I know it’s almost a surprise that we’re back with Football Manager content after all this time. It is well overdue. It’s almost like coming back to play the hits after making a new album as a band. This is what we do, this is my comfort zone, and I am glad that Football Manager allowed us to finish this list in time to make this video. It took a weirdly long amount of time to actually put the list together, waiting for the answers to come.
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The only thing we can't ignore is the chest hair. Glorious.
Most straight Zealand enjoyer
Tom Selleck would be envious
Kinda reminds me of Dougie Critchley of Euro Football Daily. Except Zealand is more lucky with the hair on top of his head.
@@jdjphotographynl When your chest hair joins onto your beard ... what do I even say? Chest-beard?
@@romeo.3472 Isn't that the stuff of werewolves? 😜
Reputation plays the biggest part in determining value, especially home and worlds reputation.
@@boomdibam9823 Bro i bought and sold multiple people way above/below value
One thing that affect the value of the player is world reputation, everytime I want to find a wonderkid, I will always find players who have 1 to 2 star reputation because they are always on the cheaper end, usually cost less than 10mil for 1 star and 2 star could be around 30mil. That's why EPL usually are a bad league to buy players because even a lot of average players could cost up to 30-40mil because of the reputation of EPL. It's something I randomly find out.
I started playing FM this summer and i have seen all your videos by now. Thanks for all the awesome content. Because of you i found a game that is turning in to a passion. Cheers mate
It becomes an addiction!
The height question is the reason why in FM the attribute is now called "jumping reach" instead of just "jumping" as in the old editions.
it does matter though for blocking shots and crosses etc from short range. instances where the defending player doesn't get a chance to jump. if you look in detailed player stats in a league and look at blocks, you will never see short players at the top of the stats, they are usually full backs and centre backs who are 6ft+
@@Writeous0ne But that's still because tall players "jumping reach" naturally are higher than most small players.
@@atb89 incorrect because blocks and headers are not recorded as the same
Zealand: “Completely ignore stars.”
Lollujo: “Stars are the only thing I pay attention to.”
I mean to be fair a 5 star in any league is probably a great player IN that league. So you can use stars in that way that said if your teams quality is by far the best in your league then this stops being true.
You should only pay attention to them in relation to your own players…it’s usually in the bottom right of the scout report. It says how good the player is compared to the ones in your squad who play in the same position. Obviously that only tells you how good he is right now, and doesn’t take into account his potential…
Love this channel, so much help! And the content is entertaining to watch too doing a great job! 👍🏻 keep it up
Zealand....Thankyou for introducing me to mystery shirt...I just popped over to join up. What an excellent idea for a service. Can't wait for my first shirt to arrive. Cheers dude 👍
The whole transfer value thing is true, and if you keep your cool, you'll get the player's actual value, not the "you play in weak league, therefore your player is worth less" value. Had a literal world class player in my Nordsjælland save (21 years, 177 CA, 184 PA - checked after sale), and the big clubs were throwing lowball garbage in the €15-20M range at the start of the transfer window. Sold him at his release clause, €80M.
That why I learned to love release clauses
@@pbh81 release clauses are good but you don't give everyone a release clause if you sign let's say your barcalona you have your youngsters every one on that team apart from the old players have £100M+ release clauses so let's say almost every club just takes your youngsters de jong for £400M pedri, fati ect you end up with about £1B
Doing a Norsjaelland save too...
I'm really struggling to get good transfer offers. I can't give my best players new contracts because their agents ALWAYS set non-negotiable release clauses even below the estimated current value.
I don't know if a mod like Daveincid's Increase Realism Megapack affects that so much nowadays...I have done a Nordsjaelland save already a few months ago and I actually got minimum twice as much for the same players. Jakob Christensen, Abu Francis, Adam Nagalo, ... got over 40m for them combined in the previous save after the first year, now I just get like 15m for them combined after the first year. The success in Season 1 was pretty much the same in both saves.
Release clauses for them would be at 5m max. per player.
I just don't get it.
@@AlexDeAustria I played them with West brom it was conference league semis after winning the carabao Cup and championship the previous season won the conference league finished a respectful 6th won 2 conference leagues 1 carabao Cup and 1 championship as Messi managed forest for one and a half seasons first season 14th 2nd season 17th sacked got west brom Job got relagated raided forest and poached the free agents won both league Cup and championship. Next season 6th and a conference league the next season bottled europa league then won another UECL then left for man U.
wow this is the best video i have sean explaining this. I joined fm22 like 2 weeks ago and until this day i had somany questions on how i should chose players for my save. And i would just filter transfer value and would chouse the highest star rating for the most i could pay.
You should tell lollujo about those CA star ratings
Well (spoiler)
Lollujo won the network game with using current ability beating Zealand in the process
@@tombardsley3081 i know. It was in jest.
I became so good in ignoring broken things in FM that now I ignore the whole game.
Same. I now just start a new save and go on vacation for the next ten years or until my team wins the champions league, whatever happens first
All of a sudden Z unboxes your favorite club second kit. Wear it proud !
I believe transfer values are based off of contract length, wage, squad role, selling teams willingness to sell, performance, perceived CA and PA, players reputation and league reputation
In relation to point 1, I signed Areola for schalke on a free in the third season and he was worth £99m-104m once he joined, he wasn’t even that good but he was apparently top 10 most valuable gk in the world
That's good areola is a keeper that can keep clean sheets he still can grow but if he is a top 10 GK he's one of the best.
Or is your tactic unbalanced and exposing your keeper too easily
Me saying he wasn’t good had nothing to do with his performances, I just meant that his attributes weren’t that much better than my other GK (Ortega) and if I were signing him for another team I certainly wouldn’t spend 100m when I could have gotten someone like Onana from West Ham for £45
@@ThorneofAbyss Onana is class man. I understand what you mean 😂 he turned my aston Villa save around
@@noreQ6 yeah he was unreal for me at inter so I’d wanted him at schalke but he wouldn’t join on a free when his contract expired and West Ham wanted 45m a year later and I only had 14m to spend while also needing to sort squad depth out for champions league so I grabbed areola for free instead and that’s what triggered his strange value
The status below Insecure is In Administration. You can see Derby County in that status immediately on a new save.
Zealand your USA lower leagues db is insane. Good job on that
For those new to FM star rating is a reflection of the perceived quality( being CA and some other stuff) or PA a player has. Attributes, Form, Traits, Footedness, Versatility and Hidden attributes all affect star rating. Attributes, traits, footedness and versatility all take up CA.
I think star ratings are very useful for comparing teams. If I. See that my backups are 4 stars on their team I immediately know that the team is bad and I should probably beat them
I know it's off-topic, but in one of my saves(unemployed save) I managed to get to Brugge and win the UCL. So was very hyped to see Zeeland getting a Brugge t-shirt. He's part of my save now, loyal fan, and you cannot prove it otherwise as I am in my own fantasy world.
the only annoying thing about the transfer value range in the new FM is that when buying players I almost always have to pay the higher value of the transfer fee range and when selling is very hard to get the higher value of the range for your players.
Did not expect the Phoenix Nights reference at all 😂 As someone from Bolton it was a shock ngl 😅
Helpful! Enjoy your videos a lot even though you seem on drugs every time
200k incoming soon! Been watching sine day one (TH-cam wise) on wardsssss
I’m horribly addicted to still using stars. It’s hard to wean off of.
14:55 meanwhile my 6'6" cb with 19 jumping reach turned into FC Porto's defender with the most goals ever, just from corners at the front post
It probably helped having a good corner taker able to put it accurately 9 foot in the air for your freak !
near post flick on or attack near post???
Rather than ignore value, it's more of taking them into account in a context. And abnormally high value for the team or league's reputation could be a sign of a possible quality player, but don't look at them isolatedly.
height does matter actually for blocking powerful shots and crosses from short range because the defending player never got a chance to jump but if the ball went over the head of a 5ft8 player it wouldnt go over the head of a 6f2 player
Throwing a lot of shade at the League of Ireland there, Zealand!
While i agree that the jumping reach attribute is what's important and height in and of itself doesn't matter, it's always been my experience that there is a correlation between being tall and having a good jumping reach. Only my experience, but tall players *seem* to trend towards having good jump reach
You said you don't have a large fanbase outside Vienna...
Here's an idea to test & make a video on: can you use friendlies to increase your fanbase? Every time there are international games on, it's pretty easy to get wins over some big teams with most of their best players unavailable. Does this increase your fanbase & does playing at home or away make a difference? What about pre-season tours - is doing a tour in Asia better than a few home matches?
Stars actually are pretty accurate, but you need to have the right view on and the staff to interpret it. i.e. if you assistant coach doesn't have 20/20 potential/actual switch to another coach who does. Or you will need to switch to another view with a scouts view. Yes Zealand is right, player foot etc. does use up a players point total. e.g. a 4 star has 250 points and multi footed costs 20 points. However, it means his total points add up to 250 and is worth 4 stars. Yes an inactive player or who's on a crap team, could look like less a star. However, unless he's young and still growing, he's not going to jump up 2 stars. He can quickly regain 10/20 points and jump up a star.
I didn't know that about height and jumping reach.
I signed a free agent Brazilian lad for an Icelandic 2nd div team. Paid him £100 a week and was worth 5-50k.
He was easily good enough to be playing in the Championship and if he did would probably be easily 5-20m. My scouts did me a solid 🤣
Below insecure is bankrupt I got is with Sheffield United , Rotherham, Bournemouth, Carlisle, Olimpiacos, Kilmarnock, St mirren Legia Warsaw AEK and Spennymoor
I had a League One quality striker as a back up when in the Prem, he scored 8 goals off the bench and despite having no Potential or CA he was valued at 26 million...
Don't know if it has changed for FM23 but for me transfer value seems somewhat accurate now. Most of the time when I sign a player, the transfer is accepted within the games value range, though sometimes I can get it a bit lower.
Mystery shirt Club Brugge ;) long time fan of Brugge....
On my empoli save. For the first 2 seasons giant clubs in Italy were only offering 6 million for Samuele Ricci. Then at the end of the 23/24 january window his 60 mill release clause got activated by Arsenal on the Last day leaving my midfield short. But atleast I was financially sound
Stars are useful for deciding what players are good in positions when you join a club.
fun fact for that 6'7'' guy, i had a 6'7'' guy from uruguay, who was a CB with 20 jumping reach, he gave me like 20 goals in 1 season :D
One of the tips that the game shows when you hit continue is that jumping reach is directly correlated to height (I.e taller players will very likely have better jumping reach) so to say height doesn't matter but jumping reach does is misguided
That's what he explained. Obviously a taller player will have a much bigger chance to have higher jumping reach, but for your purposes in the game the jumping reach is what matters.
If a player gets mad at you because is asking for a new contract or to be sold to (what to him looks like) a better team and you do not make a promise, he will gather his friends and murder you in a back alley... I mean, the team captains will corner you on the locker room and demand to attend that dude's needs, players getting mad is one of the most frking annoying things of FM and is massively exaggerated artificially put there to make the game more difficult (IMHO)
Good list. Since watching Henrik Larsson (check some of his goals from headers, 1.76 meters tall and almost playing as a target player for the swedish national team.. ;-P) I've never ever cared much about height on a player.. ;-)
The point is that in real life height matters because players jump different heights, at different speeds based on the ball, and also aerial contests often start on the ground. But as FM basically has every player max jump (or jump as high as they need to) at the same speed. height doesn't matter
@@dxfifa indeed. I did not miss this point, I just wanted to talk about Henrik Larsson, offcourse. :-)
Kalle Riedle and Marcelo Salas also spring to mind.
What a player Hervé!
stars are also really useful if you are about to promote and you think you signed some great hitters, but after you are actually promoted these heavily payed players turn out to be below standard for the new league..
Looooooool
I have watched this video. I will continue to not ignore stars
1. Total balance IS important when you turn professional
2. Height IS important cause there's big difference in high jump with low height and low jump with big height, even if they reach same level. You become more balanced when don't need to spend much time in the air.
I play FM and CM for a long long time and i have to say: attributes are overvalued by FM players. You understand much better watching full matches.
The staff recommendation once recommended me a physio with 1 physio skill. And that was at Atletico Madrid.
I also occasionally also delegate staff hiring for the b and u18 teams, and quite often they too hire absolute trash staff. It's honestly quite stupid.
14:30
I was always under the impression that Jumping Reach is simply a calculation height + strength - weight? So yes, a smaller player who is strong can jump higher relative to his height than a weak tall player can.
Yes, it's a sort of weighted average between how naturally tall the player is and how good he is at jumping.
So how does the game calculate when the board agrees to the upgrading of facilities? Club balance and financial status absolutely have to play a part in that
I think the value is also affected by the fact that you just signed the guy. Think about it like this it is gonna take a significant higher amount of money to let the guy go that you just invested heavily in. You're wouldn't accept of an offer of $50m in winter if you just signed the guy for $46m in summer. So I think that plays a role aswell. I have noticed a jump in value with most guys that switched clubs recently in FM
Yeah I signed someone for like 500k then they were somewhere around 23 mil when I checked a month after buying this 15 year old as tottenham it could also be how prices are inflated or just higher in countries like England, just a guess
As a person from Serbia, I am quite proud about that meme in the end.
You can't tell me what to do!
*STARS STARTS STARS STARS STARS STARS*
Transfer value could be an interesting experiment 3 different teams at different quality in the same league or 3 different leagues see what PA and CA affect value at different clubs
200 K soon 😶🌫️. Zealand the pioneer
When u are looking at attributes..what is the bare minimum attributes value that separates a good player from an average player.. 15,12,10?
Had sesko go up a star and a half in the first month of owning him
Had to learn all of these by myself but I'm still looking at value and stars tho... xD
Do you have any idea on transfer debt in the red I have 0 net debt but I have red transfer debt. I have no loans or anything to pay.
so if stars don't matter at all how do you typically judge good signings? is it strictly based on in game attributes?
I wish I could afford more mystery football shirts I've loved every one I've been lucky enough to get
I have a £1.09B transfer budget and £3.49m available wage; yet, my club overall balance is in the minus! I don't understand. I wish there was a way to offer my transfer budget to be injected back into club finances!
That could be a bug
Are you Barcelona?
@@jameswallace585 Haha, perfect example tbf.
@@Kimera794 Dammit
Normally I found stars did give me a okay estimate of a players ability up until I had one player on my scout report. The player was a striker and had all 16+ stats for AF except for passing which was like 14 or smthn. He was 2.5 stars, no I’m not playing a god tier team, I am 9th in the bundesliga with a Wolfsburg team I just picked up from a manager who got sacked, I would probably struggle to qualify for CL even over a whole season with my team, no way that guy should have ever been 2.5 stars.
This is also affected by the scouts you have.. if their judging of ability is 10/20.. it may at 2/5* mean hes 0.5* but also 5*. If we take 20/20 at everything scout is precise.. 15/20 is like 75%.. so he still could be 4*.
The first thing I do in every FM game is replace all the staff members.
@@alexandereisenbruck672 if it's his own player, then it's the coaches who are doing the assessment rather than scouts.
Yeah no it was scouts but most of my scouts have around 17 JCA as I also try to keep on top of staff but he was also not in a rich vein of form so it was probably like a super low roll of my scout getting it wrong and the form.
Just got scammed in FM moments ago.
Bought a 5-star striker for £100m from PSV for my Ligue-1 winning UCL-semifinalists Bordeaux.
Only to check his CA/PA (I usually never do it) and he’s 129 CA and 145 PA!!!
100 Million!!
I wished I could save spam!
Ahhh…you’ve learned the stars lesson the hard way! I’ve been there!
hahaha oof man. Better just compare him to your best player and decide if he's worth it
Did he hold his value when you got him or did his value plummet ?
@@Ozzy734 I’m still in April. He arrives on July 1st.
Rushed to buy him because players tend to cost cheaper between mid-March and early May.
You are doing a good job simulating how Bordeaux is really spending his money.
I have a big question how can i make the faces from my New Gens in the newgan away because i Had a Bug that real Players got a newgan face Like Lewandowski
I know the stars aren't always reliable, but under that in scout reports it'll say "Important league player" or or "potential premier league player" for example. How reliable are those descriptions?
I find them to be reliable, but useless after a certain point. In my current save I'm in the Faroe Islands, every player I have is at least a "leading Betri deildin menn" player, which isn't telling me much since I completely dominate the league. He could be a star player for that division but it doesn't tell me much about the true challenge which is the Champions League.
How do you turn off staff recommendations?
Finance in FM is very broken. I had carrer in which I've made 2 billions in profit over 4 seasons, yet my board was refusing many requests because of bad financial conditions.
Wow, they sound very corrupt haha
Did you play as Man Utd?
Wealthy people are usually very stingy haha but on 'serious' note probably they have a hidden budget for those things... But unlimited budget for holidays
@@meko98743 nope. I was playing West Ham
I have made over 300M in (net) transfer profit during my previous 4 seasons and I'm currently failing FFP so...
soo what will be the 200k sub special ?
13:41 if I was €1 in debt I don’t think the Irish government would be able to bail me out with the state of that government
I still play fm20, waiting for bigger improvements on next fm. Onl thing I really don't like are sponsors adn TV revanue . After over 20 years, still stays the same.
To the point #1 concerning 100m+ for a player freshly signed for 45m+, the game calculates the estimated value based on multiple factors. I've learnt that too having a 3-5m on top of the price I paid for the players for their first season at the club, then regardless of their and club performances their value dropped because my league is bumping between 10-13th place. It just estimates that this player is absolute star and transfer record for the club hence you are unlikely to get rid off him but next season it will drop. I wonder what do you think about the value estimated by the club staff as an asking price - is it accurate or not? I never know whether I should really sell them below that estimated price or not.
longer contract and high wages also contributes to high player value, i think.
We appreciate the No UCL spoilers
Stars.. ah shit, here we go again
Remember my 1st save…I learned the stars lesson the hard way!!
@@GIBBO4182 We've all been through that unfortunately
@@GIBBO4182 I’m new pls explain
@@randomperson7445 the stars value kind of change with your team. I scouted a guy that was 5 stars compared to my players…when I signed him, maybe a year later, because my team had improved he wasn’t actually 5 stars anymore…but I hadn’t updated his scout report, so it was still based on my old squad. Kind of hard to explain, but I hope that makes sense
how can you search a player by name on fm 21 i am new to the game and I don't know how to do it
Zealand: "Dont look at transfer values"
Also Zealand: 4:24
Loool
I know you don't use the editor, but fame also influences value and star rating
The transfer value sky rocketting after signing is something i had even in my save where i bought cb for 80m to czech league (i lost CL final toRM that year) and his value rocketed into 200m range while rest of the team was sitting at max 30m value. He then next season yeeted down to 30-40m.
Won CL following year and value hasnt gone up despite getting rep boost to 4,5 stats from 3,5 and to wolrdwide.
Some of that is the value of the contract. The base value will be wages (weakly wage x 52) x contract length. Then other things such as form, importance etc add to it. So if they are out of form and unhappy about not playing enough value will tank, and the reverse is true.
When I started playing FM I tried so hard to get all my team mates to 4 stars current ability. Then I got an insanely good player with 5 stars and all my other team dropped to 2.5 stars. That's when I lost my trust in stars.
How on earth is Max Herve 18, he looks 42.
Also isn't transfer value the estimated cost to buy them, so if they've just signed it will be huge
Regarding transfer value: I had a goalkeeper named Tommi Ketola who I sold from HJK to Liverpool for 775k, was worth 15m after the transfer, then ran down his contract and was valued at 950k during the last week of his contract. Chelsea picked him and and his value immediately skyrocketed to 20m, and he immediately got transfer listed!
I'm in the Vanarama national and loaned in this guy from Plymouth in league 1 rated at 4.5 to 7.7 million. He's was a decent but not spectacular level player for me. Fast forward on a few years and now he's playing for a Vanarama team with about the same attributes etc and he's a standard 20-50k player which feels about right.
However it can work in your favour, I had an out of contract premier league kid who I picked up and he only actually played about 15 games for me before Blackburn in the championship came in for him. I negotiated a sell on clause and realised that no one was going to pay his stupid value, my board negotiated a buy out of the clause and I got 1.3 million for him on top for him!
at this point(heh), the corner pointing is just intentional now LOL
Finally Z and people realise that height doesnt matter in this game
Kevvy8 times relies entirely on stars 🤩.
In my current Fm21 save I’m in the year 2024 and Pedri (Barca) has almost reached his full potential of 3 stars, which is strange because in a different save he had 5 full stars. I’m not sure if these two Pedris will perform differently on the field. Kinda bummed about my 3 star pedri
I’ve found that players perform differently in every save. I think it’s down to circumstances or injuries, game time etc. Some average players unexpectedly go on to be incredible, some incredible players fall short. Nothing seems to be guaranteed save to save
At the start of the game every player is assigned a number between 1-200 representing their max potential. For young players in particular they have a preset range that the number will fall between. I don't know exactly but I'm assuming Pedri's range was between 150-180. 150 being a standard premier league player and 180 being world class. Different factors also effect whether or not the player reaches their max potential but yeah, potential is assigned at the start of the game and differs
@@cabageumonky shame about my pedri then. But I think overall that’s a fantastic feature. If this feature wouldn’t exist, the game would get boring instantly after a few saves since you know which wonderkids will always reach 180+
wow, i didn't know about the height
I thought the Star Rating for Potential Ability reflects their PA values....
Why when I scout players they have 4 starts then I sign them and it’s like 2 1/2
never mind this zealand ..... Leeds 3 Chelsea 0 great pressing tactics by jessy marsh and his american team . god bless leeds utd
Interesting that Zealand wore a Dortmund shirt the day after the real Dortmund was FMed yesterday.
They were FM'd in the sense that they lost in added time, but they weren't truly FM'd. If anything, had they won the match they would have FM'd Werder Bremen who were always much more dangerous.
Don't know about FM22 but I figured it out in FM21, player performances, how often he makes top 11 in his team, how good has he become or the market thinks he has become and silverware won/relegation affects this value. it makes the value fluctuate. But the biggest factor is how much did he sell for. If a 45M $ player is sold for 75M $, the AI averaged it out in most cases where variables didn't work and make it approx.60m $
ill never ignore it zealand you cant stop me.
9:00 FORZA MALINWA
Other teams players: 2 goals 1 asist in 2 years . Estimate value 232 million €
My player 27 years old 52 goals this season 32 the last year. Estimate Value 32 Million
It's great to know some of these things but I have to say, height not being relevant is almost game breaking to me. Please SI Dev's sort this out for FM23.
Transfer value estimates making no sense is realistic. Transfermarkt is basically never correct because it doesn't take into account contract time left, importance to the team that owns them, and it lags behind hype.
Also doesn't attempt to read the general market. If Real Madrid and Man City and Bayern all needed a striker, then top strikers would be worth a lot more. If they all had good CB pairings, then a top CB would be worth less than normal. Etc.
nice jersey,
what happens to fm2022 when fm2023 comes out? (mobile version)
How about star for their position? Does that matter? Like for example i have a full back, he has like 1.5 star on inverted wing back but according to the highlighted stats that matter for that role, he is actually pretty fitting for the position. Should i just go for it and play him the inverted wing back?
As he gets more accustomed to the position, the star rating will also go up for it. So, yes.