Busting Football Manager Myths

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    Football Manager and it’s opaque nature go hand in hand and lead to a bunch of misleading assumptions and misconceptions. These myths eventually make it to me, and they make it to me in such numbers that I need to make a video about them to make sure you aren’t accidentally doing the wrong thing. It is all part of the FM experience figuring out what is true and what is false when nothing is actually giving you a straight answer and you keep just losing matches for no reason.
    I mean there is a reason - we all know there is a reason, but actually zeroing in on it is hard to do. This is why I spend my life digging into this game so you have the answers you need on Football Manager without too much effort. If you have any other grand conspiracy theories about Football Manager I will see you on stream, because that’s the fastest way to reach me.
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ความคิดเห็น • 273

  • @carldone6845
    @carldone6845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    One thing I’ve noticed on the mid-season slump is the oppositions team cohesion. At the start of the season when you look in data hub etc to view next opposition they will have no partnership lines. The ones that show if players play well together. If you look half way through the season you start to see them occur. Green lines from wingbacks to AMs, midfielder’s with connections etc. my team normally starts the season with good tactical understanding and a few player partnerships but I think the AI catches up.

    • @keeganbanner3035
      @keeganbanner3035 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe in the first season, but the more you go through seasons the lines stick around

  • @John_FMTV
    @John_FMTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    First team you chose to bust FM myths is Australian. I approve.

  • @Simon.Thornley
    @Simon.Thornley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Interesting explanation for the mid season slump - the one I had assumed before was the impact of weather during Dec - Feb on my usually short passing style.

    • @whynot217
      @whynot217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think there are a few reasons for it, of which this is one and the AI is another. There are also certain attributes that means certain players don’t like playing in that weather. And on top of that, once you draw or lose a couple of games the likelihood of winning drops. Again, this can be based off of certain players mentality.
      The AI is more of a factor in the season to season consistency eg ending one season really well and starting the next one poorly

  • @FernandoOliveira-re7lr
    @FernandoOliveira-re7lr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "magic smoothie cup" x'D

  • @bagera8476
    @bagera8476 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After many years of playing FM i noticed that in the later stages of national cup football you way too often have to play against the team that you also have to play in the competition around that time period. And i had it happen in several different leagues.

  • @vasilbatsev3297
    @vasilbatsev3297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would argue against the mid season slump being the better scouting knowledge of you're team. I've found it is (depending on your schedule ofc) more related to fatigue. In the start of the season your players are fresh and then normally the cup/s start, continental football starts and the time between matches becomes 3/4 days. My experience around this is building a wilder squat of players who can carry the easier matches.

  • @nicofdarcyshire
    @nicofdarcyshire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The luck seed actually existed in the past. In the old CM3 engine era, there were little guide books. Marc Vaughan (or someone of a similar level) talked about the calculation for how results are compiled. I believe this is in the 99/00 guide. A new seed hash for manager luck loaded each new game session.

  • @Tuck3tt
    @Tuck3tt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would've sworn that simulating a match gives you better odds at winning. Now I realise that I am simply worse at the game than my assistant.
    Thanks, Z. I needed that confidence hit today...

    • @lordwaleane5397
      @lordwaleane5397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. Sometimes lost while im managing. Reload and go on holiday for 1 day. And voila, a win!

    • @jucalebre7540
      @jucalebre7540 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For real lol

  • @paulleach3612
    @paulleach3612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find having a back up tactic helps with the A.I teams shifting their tactical approach.
    Personally I run with a fairly simple tactic that is then tweaked into; balanced, positive, and attack focused versions. I'm not too interested in studying statistics and making dossiers on the opposition, with myself being more Clough than Revie in terms of approach - "Football is a beautiful game… It needs to be played beautifully,".

  • @thargoff
    @thargoff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The magic smoothie cup and the effects in the intro. Wow! Great work!
    A lot of subtitling work for editor. 🤣🤪

  • @joeschmoe2030
    @joeschmoe2030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In the misnamed “Moneyball” video you claimed there weren’t biases in the game, something I claimed was a thing. A couple of months later we see that you have changed your tune, there is an English bias to the game.
    By the way, there is also an attacking bias to the game as well, but we’ll drop that for the moment.
    So I think we can say it’s official, playing any English league with full badges is the literal easy mode.

  • @TheRatToys
    @TheRatToys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My save in football manager is now in the year 2048, this is only the 2nd ever football manager save I have ever done so I decided to go all in, I have watched every single game up to this point. My club is Boston United a small semi pro club when I started. We started in the vanarama north where we won in 2022, and eventually by 2027 we had made our way up into championship football. After 6 long years in the championship we made our way up into the premier league in the 2032 season.
    Since then we have became the greatest club in the entire world, we have won the English premier league in 2038,2041,2043,2044,2045,2046,2047, and 2048 (yes 6 times in a row)
    The champions league in 2036, 2044, 2045, 2046, 2047 and 2048 ( yes 5 times in a row)
    8 super cups
    2 club world championships
    7 FA Cups
    7 community shields
    And pulled off back to back sextuples (6 trophies in 1 season)
    Best player in the history of Boston United is Regen from Bosnia & Herzegovina named Denis Fejzic who has scored 512 goals in 595 appearances for the club.
    Yes we are the greatest club in the world and not finished yet

    • @Chengyuan79
      @Chengyuan79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi. Just wanna say we play similarly ... Used to take clubs for 30 seasons until the game forces you to stop for CMs. I tried Macclesfield once. Damn fun~! Think managed a Triple once ... FMs have no limits to the best that i know of. Took Blackburn for over 40 seasons in, i dont know, FM07/08? With just UK players after 20+ seasons, and getting 1st every season. The England bias is there all along ..
      Nowadays, not even watching any football for the past 10+ years, and only picked up FM20 because it is free (and a friend wanna go back to the good old days. Ah, growing up ...) Started with Arsenal expecting an easy game, and was sacked near the end of the season. Wow. The game (both rl and, well, the FM game) has evolved so much ...
      OK, next took AC Milan, thinking that it should be easier (so as to relearn playing the game). Damn, how the mighty has fallen~! Quite penniless, with a transfer budget of ... 4mil, in the 2nd season. Didnt even know how the transfer works, i kid you not. And despite qualifying for the Champions League (CL).
      Needed CR7 to retire in-game in "Zebre" just to have a chance to win the title. Actually won the CL before winning the league (and that's by playing "defensively" in an Attacking 4-4-1-1. Played Cautiously to win the final though, as most of my players are just 3*s.) After finally winning the title, it becomes relatively smooth sailing though. My CM/FM style generally still works. Like, practising very heavy rotation (to the point I use 27-34 players to win the league every semester, even the current one. That 25 player registration aspect is generally a part of the game i dislike)
      ... Fast forward to "today" in-game. Think it's 2043 now. Finally signed a 5* SC some seasons ago who can score 20+ goals (in admittingly

    • @Chengyuan79
      @Chengyuan79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      P.S. Automated the opposition team talk and instructions. Too ... in-depth. Even about 20 years ago, I basically ignore the mid-year slump and stick to my guns. My belief is that the AI will over-correct itself over time, so just ... yeah, stick to your guns. They will eventually run out of ideas, and then you can just over-run teams with pure football talents. Until you meet an English team. *shrugs.
      Oh, yah, I also manages the Italian national team recently (as an English in-game, mind you). The luck aspect is real to me. Tried save-loading (first time in 20-30 years~!) to win the World Cup, and was disappointed at how easily this works. Until you meet THE English team. Then, just defend until you win with pure luck (like getting a penalty because you just cannot score in open play against England despite numerous SaveLoads). Or penalties. *shrugs

  • @britpoint7022
    @britpoint7022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not 100% sold on the Simulate thing. Sometimes I'll get frustrated that my team just aren't playing like they've been instructed in the tactic, instead of playing the through balls for my main striker they play it to his feet or he runs out wide with it. But then I'll simulate a match and watch the goals and lo and behold, they can actually play the way I've been telling them to!
    Maybe they all just respect my assistant manager more so they are happier to listen to the same instructions when he's the one giving them but I don't know. I can't shake the feeling there's a bit more to it.

    • @PvtVallen
      @PvtVallen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, im not really sure what my assistant could be doing with ingame instructions that triples my shots on goal compared to playing the game.

  • @Butlee
    @Butlee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome to my home town of Brisbane :)
    I believe the "Roar" part about because historically we mostly grew out from a club called Lions FC. But 'Brisbane Lions' was taken by another footy code here, so 'Brisbane Roar' came to be instead.

  • @Aflyingkittensoldier
    @Aflyingkittensoldier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quite interesting would be football manager save states. To see if replaying the exact same 45 minutes AFTER the game starts and all the consistency rolls happen results in identical play, or whether the calculations happen midgame too.

  • @Zeerse_Chef
    @Zeerse_Chef 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the mid-season slump, the myth and proof of it is correct, it's just the lack of sense from SI on that it is a thing, and a hangover from as far back as 2001-2002 or so where SI did indeed try to get the AI to counter human tactics and were overly successful, the irony being at the time it was during Arsenal's real life invincible run where they played the same way pretty consistently and no one could stop them, much like Man City and Liverpool today.

  • @VileCAESARB
    @VileCAESARB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been playing FM/CM for over 25 years, I can attest from that longitudinal study that some type of "applies" when you log onto the game, in terms of a positive modifier. The more you play in one sitting, the worse your teams performances get (which could be somewhat covered by the myth about AI adaptation). My most recent save (I have '22) but been playing a save with chester in '20 for about two years now. Took them From Vanarama North to Championship in 8 seasons I think. Reason I mention it I did an experiment this season.
    We all know that over time, your performances normally dip. You win 6-8 in a row and then it goes downhill, well when that started to happen, I saved and went on holiday till Jan, 8th to 2nd. That is somewhat anecdotal I agree but still makes no sense. I would concur that a modifier exists when you first log in, for sometime after that.

  • @joaopires1761
    @joaopires1761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yep, I'd noticed that weak foot points ate away massively at CA points when I was creating a Captain Tsubasa database, haha.
    It's one-footed by the way, I think the game got a few text strings with that term.

    • @fpl_djhammer
      @fpl_djhammer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate seeing the single-footed trait on players 😂

  • @kytaem
    @kytaem 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every save I’ve ever played, even though I rotate 2 lineups and rest after every match and constantly monitor fatigue, right before the most important match of the season (UCL semi, cup semi, showdown vs title rival), one of my top players will get fatigued. It will never be a squad player, it will be one of my top 3-4 guys. It will never happen during a quiet period. This has happened to me in EVERY SINGLE SAVE.

  • @dalewollaston6665
    @dalewollaston6665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We all got scienced! FM statistically bought the English football hype.
    Thanks for the videos Zealand, taught me loads over the last 2 years since I came back to the game.

  • @q0w1e2r3t4y5
    @q0w1e2r3t4y5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the CA drop due to serious injury: I noticed that Bravery can drop the moment a several month long injury occurs to the player.

  • @felixdoerfer
    @felixdoerfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nobody is going to convince me that there isn't a luck modifier

  • @TheArccam
    @TheArccam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe that for the Formation thing, the AI sometimes ignores previous results and goes all out. If a manager is said to have an adventurous mentality then expect they come to your home as the worst team in the divisions with an aggressive 433 or 4231 which has funnily sometimes worked.

  • @Jphw-
    @Jphw- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always forget about Liverpool wining the CL as well. Although its more likely I just repress it.

  • @jimmyventura2048
    @jimmyventura2048 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your producer needs a raise

  • @yaboykirby7789
    @yaboykirby7789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh so the reason that every AI in FM17 switched to 4-3-3 narrow against me whenever they were losing and there was like 20 minutes left was because everytime I played against 4-3-3 narrow I conceded a goal about every 10 minutes?
    Yeah that makes sense

  • @ThreeFoldPath
    @ThreeFoldPath 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first 2 myths about lowering CA by training positions and training weak foot is good to know. I will stop doing that from now on.

  • @OwenTownson
    @OwenTownson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to do a video of what formations work best against each other

  • @velyanminekov175
    @velyanminekov175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For Myth Number 3 -- I feel like its the other way around -- the AI on your team plays worse even if last season all players were putting in performances in and around 7.2-7.7 on average. Three years in a row in the bulgarian league my striker has been managing to score 20 or more goals,so why at the age of 24, when even the game says that's a striker's best age to play, he scores 13. The following season he scores 9, so I was forced to sell him under value. He went to a fellow bulgarian club and stayed for 4 years, where he scored 21, 24, 18, 19 goals in the league and the manager was the same throughout so the tactic was always the same. I've had lots of instances of this happening even when I play in top leagues and use top-top players.
    My conclusion -- The AI makes your player play like shit and not the other way around where the AI you face is better.

  • @55TheOracle55
    @55TheOracle55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Similarly training a guy to be able to play in multiple positions is nerfed by making it harder for them to develop, which again makes no sense, in cases like Barca or Ajax, where they're taught total football meaning they have to know how to play in every position.

  • @NobletheSavage
    @NobletheSavage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought I knew pretty much everything about CA and PA but retraining position taking away from the PA just blew my mind. Wow.

  • @sAYwaTT1000
    @sAYwaTT1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I honestly do think there is a script sometimes.
    There are some games that whatever you do, whatever your quality is compared to the opposition, whatever your form is you will loose or draw in disproportionatly high numbers.
    I made some tests. With a Real Betis side with whom i just won the champions league and is unbeaten after 13 games this season. Had a game against Celtic. Game that turned into a draw with 2 last min goals from celtic (1 imaginary pen).
    I was curious (and annoyed) so i decided to sim this game 10 times.
    On those 10 times there were 7 draws, 1 win for me, 2 wins for them.
    To note my team is leagues above theirs in quality, is in incredible form while they arent.
    To what other than a script can you attribute that to?

  • @seanpatrick34
    @seanpatrick34 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed, only because of the intro

  • @thegreathadoken6808
    @thegreathadoken6808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    QUESTION: Is it possible for a player to have an injury so serious that their career is ended, or, at the very least, the injury in question affects them so badly that they are only any use to clubs way below their previous level?

  • @logancosta3110
    @logancosta3110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big ups to Brisbane Roar!

  • @alphanich4210
    @alphanich4210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Brisbane roar fan I think I peed a little when I saw it pop up😂

  • @lankyzac1
    @lankyzac1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm currently managing Grasshopper in the swiss super league. I've played 2 seasons and came 2nd and 1st whilst winning the conference league in the second season. Your tips have really helped but I disagree with the mid season slump. Both seasons I have performed far worse (like 10-20 points worse) in the 1st half of the season. And as soon as the mid season hits. The form picks up.

    • @maciejbala477
      @maciejbala477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      probably your team cohesion goes up? had the same in the past

    • @robertmurphy1974
      @robertmurphy1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This could also support Zealand’s theory though. Just as teams will adapt to your style of play if you’re over-performing by becoming more defensive, I assume when under-performing throughout the first half of the season teams might adapt and play more attacking, which might suit your style of play more.
      Just an idea though, I have no clue if it’s accurate or not 🤣

    • @lankyzac1
      @lankyzac1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maciejbala477 very true

    • @lankyzac1
      @lankyzac1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@robertmurphy1974 i get where ur coming from. good point

    • @spsawyer22
      @spsawyer22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertmurphy1974 I always have a tough time at the beginning of the year too as opposed to mid-season.
      I play build a nation saves and usually the season starts super early and half my team is on international duty so I'm quite "meh" until mid september

  • @derelict06
    @derelict06 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Myth: Player traits use up CA
    Busted. Maybe it used to, but not in this FM.

  • @bordeaux1337
    @bordeaux1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the evidence for the last one? I used to simulate the matches a lot in earlier FM's where I was ahead in the table just to get catched up to and then play normally again. It was very consistent that they would catch up to me.

  • @mghrahul6944
    @mghrahul6944 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro the intros are so funny

  • @MeG__23
    @MeG__23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it ok to use (in route one tactic DORFING, your tactic) next roles on mid:
    DM(BWM) (su)
    CM(at)
    BBM (su)
    AP (at)

  • @LearningNeverStopsEX
    @LearningNeverStopsEX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    England being overrated is a bit untrue tho. In the last 5 years theres only been one final without an English team. Two finals were between two English teams. There have also been 4 different English teams in the finals, compared to 1 from Spain, 1 from Germany and 1 from France. I guess the game engine makes more sense of the pattern.

  • @erichrudorfferr
    @erichrudorfferr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I simulated a match against man city in the qf of the carabao cup while we were losing 3-1 in the 72nd minute, and somehow we lost 9-2 in the end after 90 minutes lol, immediately sacked my AssMan after

  • @georgejoey4210
    @georgejoey4210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be interested to know, is there any way to reduce the prevelance of the England domination in football manager to make it more in line with what we see in the real world. Especially for the national team. I can understand the club level a little bit more as the premier does have quite a few moneybags teams with great infrastructure, even though it's still a bit too much normally. But I mean, everyone knows that england while being good isn't such a dominant national team as football manager usually suggests. Is there anything you can do in football manager, like in the editor that can tone that down?

    • @markkajc
      @markkajc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They probably need to deepen their simulation of national teams. Put in dynamics and raise the pressure from media and fans

  • @Nando55ernst
    @Nando55ernst 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you really coming to Greenland!?

  • @WelziFC7
    @WelziFC7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zealand: “Football manager is not scripted”
    Sponsored by Sports Interactive.
    Z blink twice if you’re in danger

  • @JamesKennedy33
    @JamesKennedy33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kendrick shout out at 11:36 ;)

  • @giannis.ioannidis.1995
    @giannis.ioannidis.1995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    About myth #7: the vast majority of FM players play in England. This means that more English players are generated so more English clubs can get populated by quality players. This leads to the Premier League being significantly more reputable than LaLiga which leads to wonderkids preferring the English top 6 over the other big clubs ultimately leading to English dominance in the UCL.
    If you start a new save and you just load the Premier League but then load all the second tier divisions of the other countries you'll see that over time English clubs won't win as much.

  • @Scottwilson374
    @Scottwilson374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did I misunderstand your Champions League quote..? You said that English teams have basically done really poorly in the last 10 years in the UCL...only 2 winners, Chelsea on both occasions. Well Liverpool won it in 2018/19. Also in the last 10 finals England have had 7 teams in those 10 finals...so England underachieving in Europe recently just isn't true.

  • @TheNano338
    @TheNano338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had 2 player with a great potential destroyed by an injury in the same year.

  • @TheMahony95
    @TheMahony95 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I might have the only save where England aren't overrated

  • @chapteriv3053
    @chapteriv3053 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is some stupid correlation between injury and performing well againts a team that you should've lost.

  • @Chrispyy22
    @Chrispyy22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if instead of the title Busting Football Manager Myths it was Busting Nuts.

  • @LordWay
    @LordWay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    December 2022 england are playing the usa in the world cup final and this video gets flooded with comments about the myth 🤣

  • @darren7240
    @darren7240 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    every time you play against an old player, he scores against you!

  • @slack37
    @slack37 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    England is overrated overrated on a blog that comes out of the 4th of July. *chefs kiss*

  • @tomrendell7174
    @tomrendell7174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could say statistically in real life English clubs have underperformed in real life in the champions league. More clubs from England reach the semi's than any other nation.

    • @tomrendell7174
      @tomrendell7174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As for the national team.... Yeah fm over rated.

  • @55TheOracle55
    @55TheOracle55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find it ridiculous and unrealistic that a two footed player will be less good in current ability than a one footed player. Are SI really trying to say that players like Zidane, Cristiano Ronaldo, Kroos, etc are less good than Lamela? lol
    Seems like an unnecessary nerf of two footed players.

  • @rossing4463
    @rossing4463 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Turn up detail level, ucl will be more balanced

  • @grammarnazivelux9495
    @grammarnazivelux9495 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:08 that stupid. Football players needs 2 foots to play that sport in high level, what worst legs even mean? xD

  • @neilproctor5163
    @neilproctor5163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Zealand, happy birthday to the second best country in the world!
    🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇺🇲

  • @fifa4lifeunknow795
    @fifa4lifeunknow795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 3 or 4 start potential at United youth intake they were all average i was like ahhhhh whyyyyy so got mad and lets See their potential he had 178 and 170 2 players i belive from that day Im Never gonna check potentiall on a youth intake 😂😂😂

  • @jeremylee206
    @jeremylee206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zealand "there is no luck modifier"... then Zealand "but consistency day to day is a dice roll"... a dice roll?? a roll that's based on......... luck???? so like a luck modifier?

    • @A_Tender_Steak
      @A_Tender_Steak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He just means there’s no overall luck modifier that is set every time you boot the game.

    • @jeremylee206
      @jeremylee206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@A_Tender_Steak That is my point, consistency determines how well a player plays, consistency is based on luck.. reloading a match and each players consistency is re rolled. So consistency IS the luck modifier that effects every stat on a player and how well they play.. Obviously the more consistent the players, then luck will have less of an effect but it is still there

    • @meko98743
      @meko98743 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pseudorandom number generation isn't the same as luck.

    • @A_Tender_Steak
      @A_Tender_Steak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeremylee206 my point just being that there’s no one over arching luck modifier, which is what Z was saying. Not that there’s no luck in the game.

  • @alezandercorben4122
    @alezandercorben4122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    graphics engine

  • @zachharvey5493
    @zachharvey5493 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was so happy u forgot Liverpool then when the text popped up I laughed my ass off hahha -salty united fan

  • @TheArccam
    @TheArccam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made a guide about how to score (Please don't ban me for self promotion ZEA)
    I just wanted to tell you that I agree, shots does not equal goals. The key thing to understand is that shots are relatively. Is it better to have more shots than your opponent, it depends. The reason is because some games you are getting great quality shots and if you lose, that's football. It still doesn't mean your team or tactic are bad, it means next game you'll probably win. Judging your permomance based on one match is bad, do it based on seasonal results. (Get sacked a few times) because I promise you that every single FM player has been sacked before. It happens, but you learn from it. Getting shots is good, but sometimes you can also sacrifice getting shots for getting fewer shots of a better quality. Football is like that, there is more than one way to win.

  • @erik-janlensink2750
    @erik-janlensink2750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    another Myth.... England wil always win the World Cup in 2066.
    i have a few saves simulated till 100 years in the future and always wins England that world cup

  • @wtfamiactuallyright1823
    @wtfamiactuallyright1823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think it's so much that England is overrated, but Liverpool, certainly is.
    I mean Henderson for example, is one of the best midfielders in the world. He's not, he fits a system.

  • @mlbv2
    @mlbv2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    Guilty of the luck modifier. Staying up that extra hour longer to get through that difficult run in while my "luck is in my favour", and only coming off once I start my next session with an "easy" team haha.

    • @MyChoubaka
      @MyChoubaka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm sure you're not the only one ! I cant count the times i went to bed 3 hours after i wanted initially go

    • @paulleach3612
      @paulleach3612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Try explaining to your partner why you can't possibly stop playing it "Right now!" at 4am because you've taken Ghana to a world cup final and you can't risk your luck changing...

    • @matthewcorrigan6450
      @matthewcorrigan6450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It feels so real tho 😭 my first game or two when I log back on are always shite

    • @PvtVallen
      @PvtVallen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah I refuse to believe that there isnt a luck modifier until I see someone literally rip the games code apart and prove beyond all doubt that it isnt there. I have had over a decade of seeing this genuinely seem like its a thing.

    • @linkuppodcast9999
      @linkuppodcast9999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @nurcirino
    @nurcirino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Regarding the AI adapting, i only have one final question, ever, about these games:
    Can you do a video where you explain how to counter EVERY preset tactic? Like the 3-5-2, the 4-3-3, etc

    • @nishanttalukdarmusic7224
      @nishanttalukdarmusic7224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Against 352
      If you're a good team, play cwb and inside forwards. Make your striker a CF , if he has physical presence TM , both wingers and your striker will create a 3vs3 against the CBs , your cwbs will harass their wingbacks. No10 on attack. BBM ,and DLP on defend.

    • @jonpaul3868
      @jonpaul3868 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Put players that operate in the line between defenders and midfielders, that are: inverted wingers, DLF, AMC, Trequartista on AMC position, Second Striker, playmakers.

    • @ben_crawford
      @ben_crawford 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      At that point are you even playing the game yourself

    • @obviouscomments3832
      @obviouscomments3832 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re not even playing the game yourself at this point

  • @joaonunogsm
    @joaonunogsm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Positions don't eat CA, they make attributes more expensive though - so finishing is more expensive for a striker, marking for a defender, etc. So a player with many positions will have expensive attributes all around. The reason some positions don't appear to cost CA, is that they value the same attributes equally (like AML and AMR).

    • @lillranga8464
      @lillranga8464 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How does he have the current ability numbers showing

    • @samn90834
      @samn90834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lillranga8464 in game editor turned on for purpose of the video

  • @BrockMak
    @BrockMak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    1:52 ... except if you want to train someone into a goalkeeper. In PC version: If you change any outfield player into a goalkeeper, all their outfield positions are wiped out. On the other hand, if you try and switch a goalkeeper into an outfielder, you can't. You can technically train every position to 20 on mobile version, but because the primary position if from the further back position to the front (from goalkeeper to striker), this demigod probably would still be a worse striker than a goalkeeper.

  • @BlazinBlz
    @BlazinBlz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    loved that touch from the editors when he was pointing to the wrong corner, gave me a good chuckle

    • @iamAyal
      @iamAyal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Glad you enjoyed it, it was a fun one to make

    • @BlazinBlz
      @BlazinBlz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iamAyal it was the silly type of humor I love, so you have a random Aussie's mark of approval xD

  • @Silver-lo6db
    @Silver-lo6db 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    One of the biggest issues I have with the game is when my whole team decides to be horribly bad and lose to the last team of the league, without even one or two players doing a decent match.

    • @Kalebhaimes
      @Kalebhaimes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I support arsenal. It brings more immersion for me.

    • @Mebsuta
      @Mebsuta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Complacency is a real thing in FM. If this happens to you all the time, you've probably failed as a manager to keep your team focused on a game they're walking in pretty chill not really caring. Manage your team talks and press conferences better and this should stop. It's what I've always heard being recommended and I think it works for me.

    • @klotzinatorinho
      @klotzinatorinho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Are you over rotating your squad? I've toned down full team rotations unless everyone is match fit and had high tactical familiarity and my team stopped completely shitting the bed
      Also keep on top of dynamics and training
      Also also, keep match fitness up and have your squad actually be big enough for your schedule and the players are good enough for the league. I can't make bad players work like i could in the past

    • @meko98743
      @meko98743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The trick is to have a team so OP that even at their most complacent, they smash the bottom team every time.

    • @Silver-lo6db
      @Silver-lo6db 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mebsuta i do team talks every time in the locker room before games but if you have to do that to keep your team capable of winning against a bottom team it’s a bit sad because press conference are quite boring.

  • @dwarakavamshi8955
    @dwarakavamshi8955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Zealand hiring elite editors so that he could include all sorts of crazy things he wants to 😂

    • @iamAyal
      @iamAyal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He really said "mono-footed", what is this man making me do in Photoshop

  • @llSuperSnivyll
    @llSuperSnivyll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    About the "training a position consumes CA", I've also read that it depends on the attribute weights of the new position. Like, a Left Winger being retrained as a Right Winger is going to consume minimal amounts of CA if not none at all (because they value attributes the same way), but retraining to a Left Wing-Back is going to consume more because it gives more weight to other attributes.
    And about "injuries lower PA", well... maybe not in the absolute way, but it does reduce the odds of the player reaching that PA, so if you don't know the actual number it does look like the PA is getting lower.

  • @Kimera794
    @Kimera794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I have a myth for you to think about, Zealand, regarding the accuracy of the youth intake preview:
    Closing the game (or the save) in between the "day you receive the youth intake preview" and the "youth intake day" will hamper the accuracy of the youth intake preview.
    Not closing the game/save during that period will lead to a youth intake that pretty much fits its preview.
    You can actually test this, using a HOYD with 20JPA and 20JPP, and probably make a video out of it 😃

  • @Kimera794
    @Kimera794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for myth #8.
    People definitely need to learn about it. Real Madrid did it the UCL final. Smaller teams can do it against tougher opposition.

  • @MrDast140
    @MrDast140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10:00 Z, I know Liverpool beat Tottenham in that final but it did count.

  • @nickalo1994
    @nickalo1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    England National Team is monstrously overpowered in FM you only have to watch one game in real life to see we aren't winning anything soon. However in club football England is very dominant in Europe. Yes English clubs have only won 3 Champs Leagues in the last 13 years but in the last 4 years they have had 6 clubs in semi finals with the closest Nation being Spain on 4. 5 English teams in the last 4 finals (Two of which were all English finals) with France, Germany and Spain all on 1. 2 wins in the last 4 with Spain and Germany picking up 1 each. You're right about the national team but in club football England is dominating Europe at the moment. The last 13 years don't matter when you're talking about modern day FM.

  • @alezandercorben4122
    @alezandercorben4122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    luck modifier, I was on a win streak, logged off then reloaded the game, played a match and lost.

  • @Murtini2023
    @Murtini2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I 100% believe there is a luck modifier. I refuse to believe I can win 6 games in a row all by 2 or more goals, save it, come back tomorrow and lose the first game 1-0. Consistency is a factor, of course, but as far as I'm concerned, we win the game if we keep playing on the same night.

  • @Ethan_WS
    @Ethan_WS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And the Oscar goes to……….. Zealand 😁

  • @MrGIBURROWS
    @MrGIBURROWS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zealand was paid to say there's no luck modifier, we all know its true!

  • @MattJordann
    @MattJordann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The moment of pure joy when I saw my home town team Brisbane show up!!

  • @vikkiroxx
    @vikkiroxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luck determiner exists. There are "bad loads" and "good loads". Also, it's important where you keep your mouse cursor (it has to be precisely on your team name). ;)

  • @NIDOKING
    @NIDOKING 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah, football statistics. The downfall of every football discussion. Number of shots are more prevalent now due to xG, but was more of a 90s-00s thing to value "moral winners", as posession was in the "2010s". People talking about number this, number that, instead of talking about, well, football. The 92% pass completion midfielder gets value way higher than the 83% pass completion midfielder even though the former only do short passes to the side and the latter attempts through balls enough times to succesfully create chances for his teammates. No single stat should determine anything, the combination of stats is way more accurate anyways, would be extremely silly to deny that, but besides that... it'd be good for people to open their eyes and watch football, not a spreadsheet.

  • @CrispyCrow555
    @CrispyCrow555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos well and truly make my day. Love this channel so much and your content, Zealand. It's got me back into playing Football Manager- which is a blessing AND a curse :P

  • @BrockMak
    @BrockMak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:58 Fair, my main tactic is 4-2-4 Wide, but if I know that I can exploit someone, I can switch to 4-1-3-2 or 4-3-1-2.

  • @andreasaust1510
    @andreasaust1510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When it comes to RCA on new positions: Couldn’t it be that it’s not about how familiar someone is with the new position but that it’s about how important the player’s best attributes are for the newly learned position? For example when you have an AP in Center midfield who has a speed of 18, learning winger positions will be more costly since speed is so important when you are on a wing

    • @spsawyer22
      @spsawyer22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are correct. If you have a midfielder with 15 heading and train him as a CB, heading "costs" more for that position

    • @spsawyer22
      @spsawyer22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also the cut off (I've spent too much time testing stuff with the editor) is usually 15 at a position (think it's when they're light green at a position).

  • @pontinrob
    @pontinrob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been playing FM for years and the myths do make me laugh, it's facts you will always remember the times something has happened that make you think they're real, compared to the 1000s of times it hasn't happened

  • @toastywozzy
    @toastywozzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact. Croatia won the 2022 world cup on my save..... england came third

  • @masterwesty
    @masterwesty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has anyone else ever had a son start playing in game in your u18s. Confused the hell out of me at first especially when by chance the game used my real middle name.

  • @core_russell3869
    @core_russell3869 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I for some reason get a mid season rise for some reason

  • @Seamus2900
    @Seamus2900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to live in Greenland and have been to the Greenlandic football championships before. I am sure it will be a crazy experience for you and a lot of fun.

  • @nishanttalukdarmusic7224
    @nishanttalukdarmusic7224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the last 10 years of my 17 year save all ucl winners are English teams.

  • @gianstam6345
    @gianstam6345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He is gonna play fm with the penguins

  • @Minerikus
    @Minerikus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow... i checked.. English teams won 9 out of 10 Champion Leagues. 4x Man City, 2x Liverpool, 2x Arsenal, 1x Man Utd

  • @PetrosZoric
    @PetrosZoric 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah right. Either you are defending SI or you just don't understand how scripts work. As a programmer, I can tell you that the game is scripted af. Sure, ME can look stupid because of 'calculations'. But if ME doesn't represent the tactics and player attributes, then what's the point of it!? If I play defender with acc, pace and agility of 18-20 and then see how he easily get outruned by some striker with 10 pace it just look silly. I could tell you a whole lot more but just so you know, it's badly scripted.
    P.S. Sorry for my english, it's like my 4th language.
    Peace

  • @Grabarz23
    @Grabarz23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    about luck modifier .... not sure about FM22 or FM23 but I'm still playing FM15 and i think there is something like that.
    You can save just before the match. Play the match it ends e.g lik 4-3, now close the game without saving open it once again load your save before match play the match again without changing anything ... 2-2. then load it again 1-3, again 2-0 and so on
    Not sure why