I would actually be kind of okay with the SE embellishments if they blended well, but unfortunately they don't - they just look like primitive 90's CGI clumsily added to a movie with a distinctly 70's look and feel.
I agree. It's funny, I used to have a really bad eye for seeing visual effects, but now that it's become keener, some of that stuff really does look awkward. It would be an interesting project to redo all the primitive visual effects with practicals or to redo and modernize all the effects in the film.
I agree with you with all the pre-disney releases. But I just watched the 4k ultra HD on Disney+ and it looks amazing. I don't know if its just in my head, but I think they touched up on some of the CGI, it actually fits really well now. The CGI use to stick out like a sore thumb.
Just thinking that these original classic versions that made Star Wars a world phenomenon will never have an official release in a restored edition makes my blood boil!
@@chiyo-chanholocaust8143 The main reason is probably due to George Lucas insisting that the Special Editions are the final versions and that the original versions were rough cuts so they shouldn't be released. It's a shame because those original versions would rake out trillions of dollars.
@@chiyo-chanholocaust8143 Another thing I just realised is that the 35mm prints of the original versions are way too dirty and contains lots of scratches. This means that it would require lots of effort to restore the movies to their original glory.
I recently got the Despecialized versions and want to throw all my previous Star Wars video purchases away. The Despecialized editions have such clarity and detail that I’ve seen things in these movies I never noticed before. I don’t think Lucas/Fox/Disney could’ve given the attention to detail that Harmy & his co-contributors did. I’ve rewatched them several times and feel like these are the definitive versions of the movies.
Got my 2.7 versions + documentaries of making the movie and deleted scenes. In one Luke agrees to sell his landspeeder because he is not considering to return. I made really nice glossy paper covers for them and all. They look so good and are so precious. 2.7 is the only way to go and it makes every other star wars thing out there simply redundant.
Lucas unchecked: 0:22 "And then a worker robot is gonna whack a flying robot for pffft NO REASON! Hahahahaha!" 0:40 "We're gonna see a traffic accident, and the Jawas are gonna go all over the place! Hohohohoho!" Yes-men: "Very good, sir! A sound decision!"
Ever since 1977, I’ve been laughing every time all the patrons go back to drinking after that thug gets killed by Kenobi. Just another day at the pub lol.
@@dreckel6572 I would say not really, because Tatooine was a far flung backwater somewhere. Not too many people would be up on stuff like that. Also, anyone in the know wouldn’t want to touch that with a ten foot Bantha stick.
@@blockmasterscott yeah that was my theory too. The empire doesnt have too much influence on Tatooine and people there dont care about politics. But still, him just casually pulling the light saber in a room full of corrupt creatures who would sell everything for money feels a bit weird if you start to think about it. Esp with the storm troopers right before and the fact he stayed completely undercover for such a long time
For the most part the Despecialized version looks better - better detail and sharpness and color. A couple shots look a little overly-sharp, but I suspect that's the result of drawing from an inferior element.
I will admit if there is one change that I like from the extended Mos Eisley sequence, it’s the removal of the vaseline to hide the wheels of the land speeder to create the illusion of the land speeder flying. That’s actually one of the few changes I can get behind.
Agreed, there were some changes Lucas made in the original Star Wars that worked very well. Two that I always liked come just before the final battle, where the Rebel fighters are taking off from the Base and the panning shot as they pass the gas giant of Yavin.
watching side by side, the special edition is like someone who added to their car a massive spoiler, a big exhaust, blacked out windows, stickers, alloy wheels, sports brake pads, sports suspension, body kit. All the car needed was a polish and a service to run better.
Modifying a car can be done with style and taste. The special edition is like someone spray-painted a big green dinosaur on the windscreen, forgetting the windscreen is how the driver sees the road.
The most ruined classic line ever: “Mos Eisley spaceport. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.” Cut to CGI aliens doing Three Stooges style comedy fights, woowoowoo, boing!
The original version doesn't make any sense. Ben builds it up as this big impressive place, complete with horns blaring on the soundtrack, and then it just cuts to a dinky little street with a few bland-looking extras strolling around. It was obviously supposed to be the space version of Casablanca--a lively, bustling port city. That was not communicated at all in the original version. And I don't see what the problem is with some mild slapstick upon first entry into the city. We see some dock workers brawling and a traffic incident. That's standard "Welcome to the Big City" stuff. Mos Eisley isn't supposed to be deadly and sinister, it's supposed to be like a rough-and-tumble pirate's haven--violent, but also kind of fun. The cantina has basically the same tone. Someone gets killed, the music stops for a beat, and then it starts up again comedically. It's like a scene from out of one of the classic Disney animated features.
@@nineleafclover because all the effects and looks where groundbreaking and got prices and pushed the industrie. And they have been removed. Almost all of the space fights are redone. It's not the film that has been published under financial and time pressure. If you want to remake it then remake it. But this was a piece of film history. Now it's not. So why not reshoot all the bad interiors in the the prequels? And all the bad dialogue? Like, all dialogue? And most of the plot? And completely reshoot the sequels?
The actual disks that came out in 2020 are way more cleaner. The colors are even better. But harmys is special because it preserves the original with enhancements.
Why replace the werewolf creature in the Cantina scene? I get that Lucas wanted more going on in the spaceport area, but why replace creatures and change the Greedo scene?
He didn’t replace the Wolfman, he only took out 2 of the 3 scenes he’s in, and Greedo shot first because the MPAA threatened Lucas with a P.G-13 rating if the scene wasn’t changed
Not only did they ruin these movies with pointless and now dated-looking CGI, but they couldn't even bother to maintain shot continuity. There's a replaced background element at 0:47 (the vertical wooden platform on the left) that mysteriously reappears at 1:34. I don't mind the touch-ups at all, like the removal of the speeder vaseline smudge, addition of a few details on the black droid @ 0:45, etc, but the sloppy revisionism is just way overboard in general.
I like both versions, although some bits of the specialized version aren’t in keeping with the Original Trilogy atmosphere-For example, when the little robot teases the big one, so he smacks it down. That felt very prequel trilogy
This was one of the aspects the despecialized team of volunteers paid a lot of attention to when color grading the despecialized editions in trying to honor the look of original releases regarding skin tones, shadow, light and hue. Lucas and Disney didn't have this goal and just did what they wanted without respecting the original releases as a cultural artistic document. Worse... Lucas did this several times knowing fans kept wanting the opposite. Spielberg tried it with ET but when fans of ET got annoyed by this for the 2002 20th anniversary edition Spielberg corrected his decision by re-releasing a remastered version of the original release without the new CGI additions or alterations. Spielberg agreed with fans, saying the changes to ET were not needed and he did the right thing. The phrase "killing it with improvements" may as well have been invented for Star Wars. The despecialized editions are so much better.
There’s no such thing as a “Disney version” since all the changes were made by George Lucas before he sold it to them. Part of the deal was that Disney is not allowed to alter the films in any way.
@@EpicBunty I think they removed his close ups because back in ‘77, they didn’t have enough masks to fill the cantina scene, so they used masks from other movies. This wolf guy was considered “unoriginal”, and was replaced by a puppet that actually had two faces: one a lizard, and the other an elephant. The puppet is now the center stage in these close ups.
There's a problem with that. The 2006 limited edition bonus DVDs were recycled Laserdisc masters and we're lower quality than the previous 2004 Special Edition DVD release
when i watch your new videos in comparison to version 2.7, the color grading so perfect,that i also thinking to throw all my Star Wars DVDS and Blu rays away.
Anyone else HATE that they added some goofy ass early-2000s CGI into a classic film? I mean, ok, I get some of the 1-second alien shots, but the longer drawn out scenes were almost just like showing off. Like "hey! Look what we can do now!" and it doesn't help the film at all. A few cheap laughs (the alien pounding the droid into the dirt, man falling off huge beast) but they add nothing to the scene. Im ok with replacing wolf-man with a better alien, but they REALLY went overboard on the CGI additions. Mos Eisley was already an epic iconic scene.
3:02 I may be suffering from the Mandela effect here, but I SWEAR that that blinking scanner thingy in the background made some kind of alarm noise the first time I watched this movie, and that THAT was the reason why the Barman noticed the robots and threw them out
Well, I'm gonna say I prefer the Disney Special Edition in terms of restoration (and brightness). Mainly cuz it now has less crushed blacks and white crush like the Lowry restoration had. Special Edition changes aside, I much prefer the colour palette in the Disney/4K release as it's closer to matching the colour palette of the theatrical release than Despecialized does.
The Disney 4k special editions look amazing. I just watched A New Hope and it was like seeing it again for the first time. I think they really touched up the added CGI, because 90% of it looks fitting now, as opposed to the 2011 editions where the CGI looks silly as f. I'm really happy about it.
@@LukeLovesRose I wasn't talking about the CGI garbage. I was talking about how the restoration looks better this time than it did on the 2004 DVD/2011 Blu-ray. And better matches the colour palette of the theatrical release fans have uploaded in 4K. Whereas Despecialized was mostly sourced from the Blu-ray with black and white crushes.
@@LukeLovesRose Well TH-camr, Prometheus of Videos has recently uploaded 4K clips of Despecialized and they look way better than the initial HD version of Despecialized. And also this Disney version. And there's also 4K77.
@@goodsuc81 in Harmy's version he had to animate the movement himself because he only had a still image to work with. It aaaaaaalmost works and matches the theatrical cut but ultimately would've looked better static.
@@goodsuc81 he stated in the documentary that the only available shots of the original background were too low quality to splice together with the HD stuff around it so he had to use a hi-res photo of the original scene and animate the head itself so it blended better. Otherwise there would be a crisp 1080 picture with a less-than-vhs quality blob where the original puppet was. The trade-off had to be made somewhere.
Unrelated to the changes, but you do gotta love how George Lucas decided to randomly put in anti-droid racism in as a background element for no reason.
For what it’s worth, the new remastering looks great. Much better than the blu rays with that blue tint over everything. It’s just the special edition changes suck.
Changes aside, Despecialized easily wins color-wise, more saturated and dynamic but still filmic and fairly '77-accurate. I discovered Star Wars via the Special Editions and don't hate them, but the original cut is definitely better here. The flow of the editing is ruined and the scene clashes tonally in the SEs.
Really? I think the Special Editions win easily here when it comes to the colours, with the exception of that one ronto that goes in front of the camera (I get why, the original scene had a bunch of guys going in front of the camera but still) I think it makes Mos Eisley feel way more alive.
The transfer / color in the Despecialized is a lot better. The changes / upgrades really don't add much imo. at 2:20 when they first enter the cantina is when they needed to make changes and they didn't even do so. I never liked the very first alien you see with the sparkle eyes. It's so fake looking. All they had to do was some basic CG upgrades. Like, how about giving that same alien more believable eyes? Just subtle changes. The land speeder effect? I like the old one better. Don't know why.
I like some of the additions for sure, but man... it was that age when they started using more CGI and testing it´s boundries so everything is moving all the time and overly animated
@Kylo Ren Some of the changes aren't great but it improves slightly on the 2004 versions. In terms of picture saturation it's still far superior to the Disney releases.
But it is not from "Disney 2019", but from "1997's Special Edition", with G. Lucas team. And G. Lucas did this Special Edition in 1997 cause at this period he was prepared the moovies I, II and III. Indeed G. Lucas explained that he wanted to perfect his 1977 vision with the emergence of new CGI special effects in 1990's. And this "1997's Special Edition" was also a kind of promotionnal videos to annonce the "sequel".
If you're going to add more shots of Mos Eisley because you only got to film down 2 streets, can't you add an aerial view that similar to the end of Return of the Jedi? When I saw the latter, I asked myself, "Is that supposed to be Mos Eisley?"
It depends of the gamma, contrast, brightness settings and the quality of your screen. I'm watching this video on my PC connected to 3 different screens and if I move this page over the screens, it looks different on each screen but on each of them it's just look washed and burned while the remaster (from 1997, not 2019, nothing to do with Disney who bought those movies 15 years later) looks good to me. If you want more brightness on the remaster, you can just increase the brightness of your screen or in your video player
@@reeseexplains8935 There are a lot of great old movies that have dated and terrible special effects but they are still great movies. That is not as important as whether it communicates what it is supposed to or not. Babylon 5 has TERRIBLE effects, but I still think it is one of the greatest sci-fi series of all time.
Otaku_GameFan well I said Disney in reality it was the work of George Lucas about 7 years ago that Disney is taking credit for now he mad these for the 3D release that never happens
@@NeedAVacay-y5u Disney didn't do shit, they just released what was already provided to them after they bought Lucasfilm whenever they felt the time was right. These 4K versions were completed in 2012.
I love all of George Lucas' changes… except for the "humor"! I mean what on earth was he thinking adding puerile "preschool" humor to what is supposed to be a dangerous place and a tense moment!? It's like the man knows nothing about storytelling.
"It's like the man knows nothing about storytelling" Ok... that has to be the dumbest shit I've read in my life. Seriously. I would have liked your comment if you didn't include that.
0:23 I like the 1997 20th Century Fox slash 2019 Disney version with the newly enhanced visual effects. Especially with one of the known Creatures of Tatooine. 0:40, 1:24-1:27 & 1:34-1:39 Like those Rontos for example. 1:58, 2:12 & 5:03 Including those Omnivorous Reptiles known as the Dewbacks.
I'm just gonna say it, and I don't care what any of you have to say, I LOVE the Special Edition Star Wars. That is my opinion, you are allowed to disagree with me, but don't bother trying to bully me into changing my mind, because it AIN'T gonna happen. OK? OK.
@@michaelnelson4236 your very welcome, people are very mis-informed about the Special Editions so I like to make the facts straight when ever I can, for example in this case Lucas didn’t get rid of Wolfman he just got rid of his reappearances to create more Alien diversity
@@alcarbo8613Well, let me go ahead and say that you are mostly right. Wolfman is only in two shots in the original. There is another different werewolf looking creature in a third shot that was also replaced with a CGI alien, but it is actually a different character than Wolfman. And while this did create more alien diversity, the real reason was Lucas just didn't like that these looked like Halloween masks and didn't feel that werewolves were spacey enough anyway.
I thought the original did look odd because of how empty the streets were. But then I thought, "How creepy! It's like roaches when you turn on the lights. You know they're there hiding, watching you, but you can't see them."
0:51 this is the only part i hated. The pacing feels off with the dinosaur blocking the view. I own this version sadly. The Disney DVD of the trilogy. I atleast plan on buying 1997 DVD on Ebay so i can make some mix changes to Return of the Jedi movie
A thousand times better the remastered version. So boring many absurd complaints. Like that CGI creature, blocking the screen and not showing.. a building in the background and little else. Nothing really important. But, yes, is true, Lucas should never have remastered the OT. He must have left them forever with the poor image quality that they had. Many deserve that.
His "weak mind" is the reason Star Wars is so unique and successful. He's allowed to make mistakes. Disney, on the other hand, doesn't even try. Star Wars is in terrible hands under Disney.
One thing the old iteration lacked was footage of spacecraft actually landing, taking off, and flying. After all, it’s called Mos Eisley’s Spaceport. Not Mos Eisley’s no port. The specialized edition rightly corrected that oversight.
The speeder looks like garbage in the despecialized version with the black borders or the blury button of the speeder shadows, but keep complaining about how all changes are bad, because one dino was blocking the shot which destroyed your childhood memory. The city has so much more life, especially when the speeder enters the city. I prefer this before all the old mistakes, like unfinished light saber effects etc. etc. I must say Star Wars "Fans" are a pain in the ass. The only good thing here is the color grading. My humble opinion as a Star Wars fan since the Original and yes, I am a George Lucas Fan Boy and I like the prequels, besides their flaws.
You like the prequels, so of course you like silly CG hijinks. To the rest of us, it just doesn't mesh well with the tone of the movie. Going from Obi Wan calling Mos Eisley a "hive of scum and villainy" to smash-cutting to CG robots performing slapstick routines isn't exactly good filmmaking. But that's probably hard to grasp for special ed enjoyers.
i've just watch the star wars and return films in cinema, i have to say i'm insulted by the vada noooo and deeply offended by all the star wars edits, especialy the han shoots second crap. i'm hoping to purchase the gold edition vhs to dvd. which version is that? can those films still be brought?
How did anyone think cgi creatures blocking the screen was good idea
George Lucas
What did the CGI blocked really, a building in the background? C3PO? Nothing really 😒
@@davidmr11able 0:54
@@barkley8285 0:55. Are you crying for a fucking second? Hilarious 😒
And you have no problem with the droid that crosses the screen covering the scene and the characters seconds later? Less hypocrisy
I would actually be kind of okay with the SE embellishments if they blended well, but unfortunately they don't - they just look like primitive 90's CGI clumsily added to a movie with a distinctly 70's look and feel.
I agree. It's funny, I used to have a really bad eye for seeing visual effects, but now that it's become keener, some of that stuff really does look awkward. It would be an interesting project to redo all the primitive visual effects with practicals or to redo and modernize all the effects in the film.
Give the 4k copies a shot. The HDR helps to blend them. Especially in ROTJ. The CGI gets covered by heavier shadows
They should redo the vfx for the special editions
I agree with you with all the pre-disney releases. But I just watched the 4k ultra HD on Disney+ and it looks amazing. I don't know if its just in my head, but I think they touched up on some of the CGI, it actually fits really well now. The CGI use to stick out like a sore thumb.
Ye
I feel sorry for the guy who played the wolfman being erased like that.
Just thinking that these original classic versions that made Star Wars a world phenomenon will never have an official release in a restored edition makes my blood boil!
sjdrifter Hey man buy the limited edition dvds the second disc of each film is the original version.
@@austinthomas8464 It's so low quality. It's like 240p and you can barely make out anything. Despecialized and 4K are the only way man.
It's pretty weird they haven't decided to release it since there's obvious a big demand for it.
@@chiyo-chanholocaust8143 The main reason is probably due to George Lucas insisting that the Special Editions are the final versions and that the original versions were rough cuts so they shouldn't be released. It's a shame because those original versions would rake out trillions of dollars.
@@chiyo-chanholocaust8143 Another thing I just realised is that the 35mm prints of the original versions are way too dirty and contains lots of scratches. This means that it would require lots of effort to restore the movies to their original glory.
I recently got the Despecialized versions and want to throw all my previous Star Wars video purchases away. The Despecialized editions have such clarity and detail that I’ve seen things in these movies I never noticed before. I don’t think Lucas/Fox/Disney could’ve given the attention to detail that Harmy & his co-contributors did. I’ve rewatched them several times and feel like these are the definitive versions of the movies.
Got my 2.7 versions + documentaries of making the movie and deleted scenes.
In one Luke agrees to sell his landspeeder because he is not considering to return.
I made really nice glossy paper covers for them and all. They look so good and are so precious.
2.7 is the only way to go and it makes every other star wars thing out there simply redundant.
@@naadde even the 4k77 ones?
@@EpicBunty I'm not sure if I have those. What are differences? Tell me about those
@@naadde i'm not sure thats why I asked... they are in 4K mainly I think lol
Its because they are the definitive versions.
0:53 have no idea why we need a big green blob in the foreground ruining all that awesome background
It adds to the sort of "documentary" shooting-feel Lucas liked
Lucas unchecked:
0:22 "And then a worker robot is gonna whack a flying robot for pffft NO REASON! Hahahahaha!"
0:40 "We're gonna see a traffic accident, and the Jawas are gonna go all over the place! Hohohohoho!"
Yes-men: "Very good, sir! A sound decision!"
A total of 24+ seconds that were used as fillers, that honestly didn't need to be there.
"I did it, I fixed my movie. It's good now"
@@PunishedKrab "What was wrong with your movie to where you had to add & edit so much?"
Ever since 1977, I’ve been laughing every time all the patrons go back to drinking after that thug gets killed by Kenobi. Just another day at the pub lol.
blockmasterscott Those thugs aren’t dead; they continue to live in the Doctor Aphra comics.
@@JinxTheLooneyToon915 The one dies and the other continues to have his drink
always makes me wonder why noones surprised by the lightsaber. must be quite a rare occurance since the jedi have been mostly extinguished
@@dreckel6572 I would say not really, because Tatooine was a far flung backwater somewhere. Not too many people would be up on stuff like that.
Also, anyone in the know wouldn’t want to touch that with a ten foot Bantha stick.
@@blockmasterscott yeah that was my theory too. The empire doesnt have too much influence on Tatooine and people there dont care about politics.
But still, him just casually pulling the light saber in a room full of corrupt creatures who would sell everything for money feels a bit weird if you start to think about it. Esp with the storm troopers right before and the fact he stayed completely undercover for such a long time
5:03
Even C-3PO doesn’t like the special edition.
For the most part the Despecialized version looks better - better detail and sharpness and color. A couple shots look a little overly-sharp, but I suspect that's the result of drawing from an inferior element.
Disagree.
True but that's only for this scene. They restored this scene from an actual negative.
I disagree, despecialized is in 720p and it still somehow manages to look better than the 4k official version 😂
4k77 is top tier
@@shocktun3s729 You disagree the color looks better in the despecialized? The Disney version looks like it was shot on bad film.
I will admit if there is one change that I like from the extended Mos Eisley sequence, it’s the removal of the vaseline to hide the wheels of the land speeder to create the illusion of the land speeder flying. That’s actually one of the few changes I can get behind.
The cloud city changes were nice, it made the place look better.
You're both right. A couple of the additions weren't horrible.
I wonder if George Lucas still has the unsmeared copy, or if he was foolish enough to throw it away.
Understandable but I prefer the old special effects honestly. They're what give the movies their charm and creativity in my opinion.
Agreed, there were some changes Lucas made in the original Star Wars that worked very well. Two that I always liked come just before the final battle, where the Rebel fighters are taking off from the Base and the panning shot as they pass the gas giant of Yavin.
Are we doing a lead up to the infamous Maclunkey scene
:)
watching side by side, the special edition is like someone who added to their car a massive spoiler, a big exhaust, blacked out windows, stickers, alloy wheels, sports brake pads, sports suspension, body kit.
All the car needed was a polish and a service to run better.
Well-said and 1000% true.
Yeah, the first added shot is fine, but it all quickly goes to hell
Modifying a car can be done with style and taste. The special edition is like someone spray-painted a big green dinosaur on the windscreen, forgetting the windscreen is how the driver sees the road.
The most ruined classic line ever: “Mos Eisley spaceport. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.” Cut to CGI aliens doing Three Stooges style comedy fights, woowoowoo, boing!
hahahaha
The original version doesn't make any sense. Ben builds it up as this big impressive place, complete with horns blaring on the soundtrack, and then it just cuts to a dinky little street with a few bland-looking extras strolling around. It was obviously supposed to be the space version of Casablanca--a lively, bustling port city. That was not communicated at all in the original version.
And I don't see what the problem is with some mild slapstick upon first entry into the city. We see some dock workers brawling and a traffic incident. That's standard "Welcome to the Big City" stuff. Mos Eisley isn't supposed to be deadly and sinister, it's supposed to be like a rough-and-tumble pirate's haven--violent, but also kind of fun. The cantina has basically the same tone. Someone gets killed, the music stops for a beat, and then it starts up again comedically. It's like a scene from out of one of the classic Disney animated features.
@@nineleafclover It's clear you don't see the problem with it. Many people do.
@@gizzyguzzi No kidding, thanks for your contribution G-man
@@nineleafclover because all the effects and looks where groundbreaking and got prices and pushed the industrie. And they have been removed. Almost all of the space fights are redone. It's not the film that has been published under financial and time pressure.
If you want to remake it then remake it. But this was a piece of film history. Now it's not.
So why not reshoot all the bad interiors in the the prequels? And all the bad dialogue? Like, all dialogue? And most of the plot?
And completely reshoot the sequels?
The actual disks that came out in 2020 are way more cleaner. The colors are even better. But harmys is special because it preserves the original with enhancements.
*discs
Why replace the werewolf creature in the Cantina scene? I get that Lucas wanted more going on in the spaceport area, but why replace creatures and change the Greedo scene?
He didn’t replace the Wolfman, he only took out 2 of the 3 scenes he’s in, and Greedo shot first because the MPAA threatened Lucas with a P.G-13 rating if the scene wasn’t changed
I'm pretty sure Lucas changed the greedo scene because he didn't want Han Solo to be someone who shoots first, but only in defense.
Because George Lucas is now a big hack
From what I hear Lucas didn’t think a wolfman was very spacey and alien like.
because star wars ran on a low budget and half of the aliens were halloween costumes
the devil
the wolf
the man bat creature
and a walrus
I just noticed that the Disney version has less image from the sides, the same problem that the Phantom Menace DVD had.
Ya why is that?
Lucas Masoch Harmy’s version less image on the side but it only a slight so in all essence who cares
I personally like every version but the specialized editions. 4K77 is nice.
gout is crappier than SE in my opinion, both have very muted colors, looks muddy and not as sharp and clean as despecialized.
Not only did they ruin these movies with pointless and now dated-looking CGI, but they couldn't even bother to maintain shot continuity. There's a replaced background element at 0:47 (the vertical wooden platform on the left) that mysteriously reappears at 1:34. I don't mind the touch-ups at all, like the removal of the speeder vaseline smudge, addition of a few details on the black droid @ 0:45, etc, but the sloppy revisionism is just way overboard in general.
The new Blu-ray is definitely better than the Blu-ray 2011. But in some scenes the noise reduction was overdone 0:20.
I like both versions, although some bits of the specialized version aren’t in keeping with the Original Trilogy atmosphere-For example, when the little robot teases the big one, so he smacks it down. That felt very prequel trilogy
omg i MUST HAVE this Despecialized edition!!
Holy fucking shit mate, I love how the lightsaber looks. It's literal perfection
Dont swear
@@quinten2529 why
@@quinten2529 go back to cocomelon
See a jedi in a pub,
Everyone: *Gulps*. *shuts up*
0:54 Is It Me Or In Special Editions That Little Astro-Droid Evolved into this big lizard thing
Am I just crazy or is the 'despecialized' color grading richer and more vibrant?
This was one of the aspects the despecialized team of volunteers paid a lot of attention to when color grading the despecialized editions in trying to honor the look of original releases regarding skin tones, shadow, light and hue. Lucas and Disney didn't have this goal and just did what they wanted without respecting the original releases as a cultural artistic document. Worse... Lucas did this several times knowing fans kept wanting the opposite. Spielberg tried it with ET but when fans of ET got annoyed by this for the 2002 20th anniversary edition Spielberg corrected his decision by re-releasing a remastered version of the original release without the new CGI additions or alterations. Spielberg agreed with fans, saying the changes to ET were not needed and he did the right thing.
The phrase "killing it with improvements" may as well have been invented for Star Wars. The despecialized editions are so much better.
@@savedfaves Oh yeah, I remember that version. Where the FBI agents were wielding walkie-talkies rather than sidearms.
I actually really like what they did with Mos Eisley here...
0:51 EXCEPT THAT ONE GOD DAMN RONTO THAT COVERS THE CAMERA, JESUS CHRIST
2:21 my father said when ha watched this scene the music was completely different, is that true?
I loved the original version of this scene better because this, in particular, has that "western movie" feel. #LessIsMore
I was completely guttered when George took out wolf-man.
There’s no such thing as a “Disney version” since all the changes were made by George Lucas before he sold it to them. Part of the deal was that Disney is not allowed to alter the films in any way.
I just realized the Wolf guy is still in the newer releases, he just doesnt have a close up ^^
he looked so cool I cant believe they removed him. and replaced him with a wonky looking CGI doofus
@@EpicBunty I think they removed his close ups because back in ‘77, they didn’t have enough masks to fill the cantina scene, so they used masks from other movies. This wolf guy was considered “unoriginal”, and was replaced by a puppet that actually had two faces: one a lizard, and the other an elephant. The puppet is now the center stage in these close ups.
I'm scared the wolfman is in the background on special edition Disney 2019.
The Speaker-Sounds of the Stormtrooper-Helmets are the best thing in the SE.
Sometimes I think the original looks better, like why is there an added heat distortion on the R2 unit at 1:37
They needed to smudge the lens to get the speeder effect.
If only there was a way to show that shot in its original unaltered form, but not have the distortion on the R2 unit like in the Special Edition.
BUY THE LIMITED EDITION DVDS OF THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY THE SECOND DISC OF EACH FILM IS THE ORIGINAL VERSION
There's a problem with that. The 2006 limited edition bonus DVDs were recycled Laserdisc masters and we're lower quality than the previous 2004 Special Edition DVD release
DOWNLOAD 4K77. THE RESOLUTION IS 28 TIMES HIGHER.
Anyone know the reason why George Lucas wanted to hide that white R2D2? 0:51
Probably thought his audience was too dumb to realise it was a different unit to Luke's R2. That idea just pisses me off.
Lol
The wolf man is back! 😁
0:51 So bad
when i watch your new videos in comparison to version 2.7, the color grading so perfect,that i also thinking to throw all my Star Wars DVDS and Blu rays away.
Anyone else HATE that they added some goofy ass early-2000s CGI into a classic film? I mean, ok, I get some of the 1-second alien shots, but the longer drawn out scenes were almost just like showing off. Like "hey! Look what we can do now!" and it doesn't help the film at all. A few cheap laughs (the alien pounding the droid into the dirt, man falling off huge beast) but they add nothing to the scene. Im ok with replacing wolf-man with a better alien, but they REALLY went overboard on the CGI additions. Mos Eisley was already an epic iconic scene.
Still hoping for Harmy's v3.0 @ 1080p res
Look up 4K77
Hmm. How can I get access to the despecialized editions?
3:02 I may be suffering from the Mandela effect here, but I SWEAR that that blinking scanner thingy in the background made some kind of alarm noise the first time I watched this movie, and that THAT was the reason why the Barman noticed the robots and threw them out
I'd love to own an unaltered version of star wars on blu way
I got individual despecialized films for each movie on blu ray
@@ZeloraYTI made a boxset of all 3 4K77, 4K80, and 4K83 on UHD Blu-ray.
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy and slapstick comedy. We must be cautious.
Happy 45th anniversary Star Wars.
Well, I'm gonna say I prefer the Disney Special Edition in terms of restoration (and brightness). Mainly cuz it now has less crushed blacks and white crush like the Lowry restoration had. Special Edition changes aside, I much prefer the colour palette in the Disney/4K release as it's closer to matching the colour palette of the theatrical release than Despecialized does.
The Disney 4k special editions look amazing. I just watched A New Hope and it was like seeing it again for the first time. I think they really touched up the added CGI, because 90% of it looks fitting now, as opposed to the 2011 editions where the CGI looks silly as f. I'm really happy about it.
Stop selling us that hackney CGI garbage
@@LukeLovesRose I wasn't talking about the CGI garbage. I was talking about how the restoration looks better this time than it did on the 2004 DVD/2011 Blu-ray. And better matches the colour palette of the theatrical release fans have uploaded in 4K. Whereas Despecialized was mostly sourced from the Blu-ray with black and white crushes.
@@AndrewChapman Despecialized for me every time
@@LukeLovesRose Well TH-camr, Prometheus of Videos has recently uploaded 4K clips of Despecialized and they look way better than the initial HD version of Despecialized. And also this Disney version. And there's also 4K77.
The work Harmy did on the dewback was a valiant effort, but the morphing of the head towards the end sticks out and just looks wrong.
Not sure what scene you're referencing. Do you have a timestamp?
Utsnia Anostx the head moves in all versions of the theatrical cut
@@goodsuc81 in Harmy's version he had to animate the movement himself because he only had a still image to work with. It aaaaaaalmost works and matches the theatrical cut but ultimately would've looked better static.
Big Sugar why didn’t he just use the head movement that’s in the actual theatrical cut
@@goodsuc81 he stated in the documentary that the only available shots of the original background were too low quality to splice together with the HD stuff around it so he had to use a hi-res photo of the original scene and animate the head itself so it blended better. Otherwise there would be a crisp 1080 picture with a less-than-vhs quality blob where the original puppet was. The trade-off had to be made somewhere.
0:53 this shot well never not be funny to me
2:30 The vaping lizard looks so out of place
There’s just something so weird about it I can’t put my finger on
No! It looks awesome
Never smoked narghilè in a pub? That's pretty much how it looks
Ill never understand why they removed wolfman
5:04 C3PO when he sees the Disney Version.
I can only imagine George back in 1997 listing all the things he wanted to change or remove and his ILM team looking at each other and wondering why.
They Should Change That First Scene Back To The Original.
Revisited ADYWAN Mos Eisley & Cantina
Dr Evazan Arm Broken Revisited ADYWAN
CGI from the 90's. This one hasn't aged well.
Unrelated to the changes, but you do gotta love how George Lucas decided to randomly put in anti-droid racism in as a background element for no reason.
Right? What can droids even drink in this universe? Gasoline?
@@velium365 maybe they're powered like Futurama robots.
For what it’s worth, the new remastering looks great. Much better than the blu rays with that blue tint over everything. It’s just the special edition changes suck.
The color grade on D+ is actually surprisingly decent. Far better than the 2011 bluray and 4K disc release.
Changes aside, Despecialized easily wins color-wise, more saturated and dynamic but still filmic and fairly '77-accurate.
I discovered Star Wars via the Special Editions and don't hate them, but the original cut is definitely better here. The flow of the editing is ruined and the scene clashes tonally in the SEs.
Really? I think the Special Editions win easily here when it comes to the colours, with the exception of that one ronto that goes in front of the camera (I get why, the original scene had a bunch of guys going in front of the camera but still) I think it makes Mos Eisley feel way more alive.
@@VinVonVoom Your so full of shit that it's funny.
@@mattk5020 How so?
@@VinVonVoom Your whole comment is bullshit. Despecialized is superior in everyday over the special editions.
@@mattk5020 Screw artistic vision and all the work that went into them I guess.
C-3PO: I don't like the look of this.
Me: *referring to the CGI creatures* I don't like the look of that either.
Maclunkey
As much as I love how to 4K version of Star Wars looks (minus the bad cgi) Harmy's Despecialized Edition is the definitive version of Star Wars
D+77 melds them, and looks extraordinary.
No it’s not LOL
@@alcarbo8613 what is then?
No it isn't.
@@HonkeyKong544K77.
The transfer / color in the Despecialized is a lot better. The changes / upgrades really don't add much imo. at 2:20 when they first enter the cantina is when they needed to make changes and they didn't even do so. I never liked the very first alien you see with the sparkle eyes. It's so fake looking. All they had to do was some basic CG upgrades. Like, how about giving that same alien more believable eyes? Just subtle changes. The land speeder effect? I like the old one better. Don't know why.
I like some of the additions for sure, but man... it was that age when they started using more CGI and testing it´s boundries so everything is moving all the time and overly animated
Mos Eisley Space Port: where Disney can't be bothered to provide good colour grading. We must be cautious...
@Kylo Ren Some of the changes aren't great but it improves slightly on the 2004 versions. In terms of picture saturation it's still far superior to the Disney releases.
The Despecialized Edition looks more natural and as if the haze has been lifted to make it more clear 👍
But it is not from "Disney 2019", but from "1997's Special Edition", with G. Lucas team.
And G. Lucas did this Special Edition in 1997 cause at this period he was prepared the moovies I, II and III.
Indeed G. Lucas explained that he wanted to perfect his 1977 vision with the emergence of new CGI special effects in 1990's. And this "1997's Special Edition" was also a kind of promotionnal videos to annonce the "sequel".
If you're going to add more shots of Mos Eisley because you only got to film down 2 streets, can't you add an aerial view that similar to the end of Return of the Jedi? When I saw the latter, I asked myself, "Is that supposed to be Mos Eisley?"
If only they kept R2 A5 and The Monster in that shot at the same time
I love banthas blocked the entire shot for several seconds, because it's such a good change, why not put that bantha randomly in every fucking scene.
0:04 The Harmy version shows so much more detail in the image imo, the Disney one looks like ass in comparison
It depends of the gamma, contrast, brightness settings and the quality of your screen. I'm watching this video on my PC connected to 3 different screens and if I move this page over the screens, it looks different on each screen but on each of them it's just look washed and burned while the remaster (from 1997, not 2019, nothing to do with Disney who bought those movies 15 years later) looks good to me. If you want more brightness on the remaster, you can just increase the brightness of your screen or in your video player
The Special Edition does a MUCH better job of showing Mos Eisley to be a hustling-bustling city. I think it is an improvement.
The cg is dated and terrible.
@@reeseexplains8935 There are a lot of great old movies that have dated and terrible special effects but they are still great movies. That is not as important as whether it communicates what it is supposed to or not. Babylon 5 has TERRIBLE effects, but I still think it is one of the greatest sci-fi series of all time.
Awww, I was hoping to see the I Greedo interaction where Greedo doesn't say "Mclunky and Han shoots first.
Despecialized with the colours of the SE would be great
What's so new about the Disney Version from the 2011 Bluray and 1997 Versions?
Color correction the 2011 Blu-ray has a magenta tint Disney colored it similar to the despecialized edition
@@NeedAVacay-y5u I see.
Otaku_GameFan well I said Disney in reality it was the work of George Lucas about 7 years ago that Disney is taking credit for now he mad these for the 3D release that never happens
@@NeedAVacay-y5u Disney didn't do shit, they just released what was already provided to them after they bought Lucasfilm whenever they felt the time was right. These 4K versions were completed in 2012.
I love all of George Lucas' changes… except for the "humor"! I mean what on earth was he thinking adding puerile "preschool" humor to what is supposed to be a dangerous place and a tense moment!? It's like the man knows nothing about storytelling.
So I assume you hate the opening to a A New Hope as while
Give me some examples of the humor you mean
"It's like the man knows nothing about storytelling"
Ok... that has to be the dumbest shit I've read in my life. Seriously. I would have liked your comment if you didn't include that.
I prefer the special edition version because I could see the Outrider flying around 😎😎😎
Harmy's the BEST
0:23 I like the 1997 20th Century Fox slash 2019 Disney version with the newly enhanced visual effects. Especially with one of the known Creatures of Tatooine. 0:40, 1:24-1:27 & 1:34-1:39 Like those Rontos for example. 1:58, 2:12 & 5:03 Including those Omnivorous Reptiles known as the Dewbacks.
I'm just gonna say it, and I don't care what any of you have to say, I LOVE the Special Edition Star Wars. That is my opinion, you are allowed to disagree with me, but don't bother trying to bully me into changing my mind, because it AIN'T gonna happen. OK? OK.
But HOW CAN U REPLACE THE WOLFMAN
Wolfman wasn’t replaced he has 3 scenes Lucas took him out of 2, left him in 1
@@alcarbo8613 wow I'm surprised it take me that long to notice that. Thank u stranger
@@michaelnelson4236 your very welcome, people are very mis-informed about the Special Editions so I like to make the facts straight when ever I can, for example in this case Lucas didn’t get rid of Wolfman he just got rid of his reappearances to create more Alien diversity
@@alcarbo8613Well, let me go ahead and say that you are mostly right. Wolfman is only in two shots in the original. There is another different werewolf looking creature in a third shot that was also replaced with a CGI alien, but it is actually a different character than Wolfman. And while this did create more alien diversity, the real reason was Lucas just didn't like that these looked like Halloween masks and didn't feel that werewolves were spacey enough anyway.
I'd take the Disney version of the cantina scene with the Wolfman and the revisited audio.
I thought the original did look odd because of how empty the streets were. But then I thought, "How creepy! It's like roaches when you turn on the lights. You know they're there hiding, watching you, but you can't see them."
Disney: awesome we got a multi-billion dollar IP. LETS FUCKING RUIN IT!!!!
literally why?
I would like to see a special edition of the Prequel Trilogy, some updated CG would be real nice.
0:59
0:51 this is the only part i hated. The pacing feels off with the dinosaur blocking the view. I own this version sadly. The Disney DVD of the trilogy. I atleast plan on buying 1997 DVD on Ebay so i can make some mix changes to Return of the Jedi movie
Never realized they replaced the wolf dude in the cantina scene with the whale smoking a hookah until now
Am i being thick or by the term despecialized do they mean the original version from 1977 ?
That's correct. But also look up 4K77. Even better version, imo.
A thousand times better the remastered version. So boring many absurd complaints. Like that CGI creature, blocking the screen and not showing.. a building in the background and little else. Nothing really important.
But, yes, is true, Lucas should never have remastered the OT. He must have left them forever with the poor image quality that they had. Many deserve that.
Why did Disney fuck up the color grading?
disney moment
Lucas must've had a real weak mind if he thought all that CGI crap was gonna fly.
seriously I appreciate his vision but it looks so out of place.
His "weak mind" is the reason Star Wars is so unique and successful. He's allowed to make mistakes.
Disney, on the other hand, doesn't even try. Star Wars is in terrible hands under Disney.
I mean, it did fly though. People still went out and bought the special editions in droves. Who's laughing now?
One thing the old iteration lacked was footage of spacecraft actually landing, taking off, and flying. After all, it’s called Mos Eisley’s Spaceport. Not Mos Eisley’s no port.
The specialized edition rightly corrected that oversight.
That first shot of them driving in to Mos Eisley is just horrendous. I’m surprised it made it into the original to begin with
The speeder looks like garbage in the despecialized version with the black borders or the blury button of the speeder shadows, but keep complaining about how all changes are bad, because one dino was blocking the shot which destroyed your childhood memory. The city has so much more life, especially when the speeder enters the city. I prefer this before all the old mistakes, like unfinished light saber effects etc. etc. I must say Star Wars "Fans" are a pain in the ass. The only good thing here is the color grading. My humble opinion as a Star Wars fan since the Original and yes, I am a George Lucas Fan Boy and I like the prequels, besides their flaws.
You like the prequels, so of course you like silly CG hijinks. To the rest of us, it just doesn't mesh well with the tone of the movie. Going from Obi Wan calling Mos Eisley a "hive of scum and villainy" to smash-cutting to CG robots performing slapstick routines isn't exactly good filmmaking. But that's probably hard to grasp for special ed enjoyers.
0:17 Oh hahah, look at this shot, the despecialized version looks so realistic compared to the SE one.
i've just watch the star wars and return films in cinema, i have to say i'm insulted by the vada noooo and deeply offended by all the star wars edits, especialy the han shoots second crap. i'm hoping to purchase the gold edition vhs to dvd. which version is that? can those films still be brought?