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The conversation started decent, but then Greg made a point that Justin Martyr wasn't a trinitarian. But then as soon as Sam was about to get VERY SPECIFIC about what Justin Marytr wrote, that's when Greg got louder and performative to hide the fact that he was being deceitful. This is made evident in the fact that he was first like "You don't believe that! You don't believe what Justin Martyr believes!". But later on, when Sam says that Justin Marytr believed that the Father is Nameless, and that the LORD of hosts is the name of the Son(which is pretty important if you don't believe Jesus is God) then he says "I don't agree completely with Justin either." Huh? So then why are YOU appealing him?
@alisterrebelo9013 Tbh as a unitarian the only verses I had to defend unitarianism was john 17 3 Most unitarians are not actually unitarian, and are just anti trinitarian They just like to give flawed enterpretations of clear trinitarian passages.
New people. Old heresies. These issues have been tackled centuries before, by cleverer and smarter people, many of them with ancient greek as their first language. God bless you Sam.
@@superdavidss it’s easy you have to go to the Greek and you only have to learn a few words like I did like TON THEON THEOS AND ARCHE then you can decide for your self if Jesus is God or a part of the trinty
😂Greg did a video for almost 3 hours about this 10 minutes video and was totally drunk and calling you both fat and was very angry in the end. He is demon possessed. He agree with me that it was showing in his stream.
The fact that this Greg guy wouldn't close his mouth for 5 seconds, showed he was afraid of what would be said. When you are afraid of what someone else will say, you will do anything to not let them say it. So Greg --- a coward. If he was truly secure in his position, if his position was truly correct, he wouldn't be afraid of someone else speaking.
@jayseth if you read the context, it's clear that Christ isn't Jehovah. V 2 calls Christ heir of God, v 4 he inherited a more excellent name than his peers.v6 called firstborn. V13, sits at God's right hand. He is also the mediator between God and man. High priest of God. Appears before the face of God. HEB. 9:24
Yikes, that was embarrassing for that guy. He wouldn't even let you finish half a sentence before he interrupted you, and the fact that he had the audacity to say you wouldn't let him answer your question when you never even had a chance to finish asking is insane to me. I don't think he's cowardly, I just think he's filled with such false confidence and is starting from a place of certainty that he thinks he can control the flow of discussion and look strong to others while doing it.
"People can have differing opinions, and that’s fine, but let’s be clear: Greg was neither the coward here nor the one talking over others. The lack of integrity shown in this comment section is honestly embarrassing. William is a joke. Whether Justin referred to deuteros theos or heteros theos makes no difference-both imply the same thing, and William completely missed the point. Greg’s argument wasn’t about whether Justin said 'a second' or 'another'; it was that Justin wasn’t referring to a 'person of God,' but to ‘another theos.’ William, where did Justin refer to a person? Are you even thinking? And anyone who believes this clown actually made a point here is equally misguided. As for Sam, your inability to answer a straightforward question speaks volumes. ‘Angel’ is a functional term, and you know Greg is right-that’s why you couldn’t finish your point. The issue wasn’t Greg interrupting; it was that your premise didn’t hold up. Greg already answered you: Jesus is the same person, though not necessarily in the same form. You didn’t let Greg leave; you kicked him out. Watching you all hide behind each other’s support is pathetic. Greg has openly challenged you to a moderated debate, and everyone can see you’re avoiding it-except for the blind followers clinging to this act. Your attempts to comfort each other here were nothing short of humiliating."
"Sam, you really think you were brilliant in this one? Is 'angel' not a functional term? Where are you running? And for the record, you were the one who ended the conversation-Greg didn’t leave on his own. Can you spell coward?"
Sam, you couldn’t answer the simple question of whether you viewed “Angel” as a functional term or not because you didn’t want to get cooked. Sounds to me like you did the running, not Greg. What person decides to have 2 gang up on 1 guy? And then William couldn’t justify why he joined in the conversation, saying that Greg had been saying stuff about him and then when Greg questioned William what he had said, William ignored him! Wow. I think I knew who were the ones that were scared.
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3 followers/scholars of the word and yet you still see the Flesh at work not letting each other have a conversation! OH Lord Jesus!! This is not even a debate, feels like one upping each another. Calling another brother a coward, or afraid is not following the verse, Ephesians 4:29 "Do NOT let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is HELPFUL FOR BUILDING OTHERS UP according to their needs, that it may BENEFIT those who listen" Ya'll need to take a chill pill and conversate!
I do not know if anyone felt this, but I felt bad for Greg and Sam when Greg said that Sam is making fun of him, and I love how Sam told Greg that it is okay to insult him. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
"Hey @WilliamAlbrecht where exactly does heteros theos mean 'another person' instead of 'another god'? Can you spell M-O-R-O-N? And @SamShamun, isn’t 'angel' a functional term? Can you spell out J-O-K-E? That’s what are Sam . Thanks for posting this; watching your own humiliation has been awesome!"
I wouldn’t waste my time with a man who is rude . I would allow my audience who what to learn to understand that Holy Spirit is a Holy being and has a way to speak with Wisdom. A fool can’t stand in the face of God .
I'm an Aluminate' that teaches One Humanitarian Truth Under God. The Bible can be argued either way when it comes down to whether or not Jesus is God. Now Sam teaches the Trinitarian view well because he has worked really hard at teaching it. It's where his fame and notoriety comes from. But the Bible can be argued either way. That's exactly why it's clarified in the Quran and God's New World's Testament.
I understand that Greg might be interrupting, but that doesn’t mean you’re not interrupting him as well. When Greg tries to stay focused on the topic being asked, it’s not helpful for Sam to call him a coward or accuse him of being scared. That's just rude. That kind of behavior provokes a reaction that might come across as Greg talking over you. Honestly, it feels like you're ganging up on him, which can seem a bit unfair. Unfortunately, this approach doesn’t reflect the qualities needed for a constructive debate.
@ljnouata9088 No, I’ve seen Sam debating others online, and he often jumps to reading texts like 'read this, read that,' even when the other person is still explaining. Because of this, I don’t think he’d do well in a moderated debate. He also struggles to make his point clear. For example, when he asked if Jesus was a man or an angel while on earth, it wasn’t clear if he was asking about types of beings. Greg had to clarify that 'angel' refers to a function, not a type of being, and suggested Sam make his question clearer. Instead of addressing this, Sam dismissed Greg as someone trying to avoid the question
@@dunphillpanama yes Sam just wants to argue for the sake of arguing. He doesn’t care if he’s wrong or not. He just has that win at all costs, whilst insulting the other person, mentality. schoolboy tactics. The man is deadset and idiot.
Justin Martyr clearly stated that Jesus is another God and Lord subject to the creator. You guys trying to argue with that shows you don't know your story.
@alisterrebelo9013 You couldn't pull it yourself? Is Homo and Heteros the same word to you? Heteros means different. He said Jesus is a different God(heteros theos).
@@johnchauke7492 Correct Justin said "heteros (or eteros) theos" NOT "duteros theos". Don't equivocate "another" and "second" in English, and falsely assume it holds true in the Greek. Justin was talking with a Unitarian (Jewish) much like I am conversing with a Unitarian right now. The context being to show that there exists eternally alongside the Father, ANOTHER who exists prior to all creation. Geza Vermes (Jewish scholar) "In the second century, we see the emergence of beliefs that *JESUS, AS THE LOGOS, WAS PRESENT WITH GOD FROM BEFORE CREATION. Justin Martyr’s writings reflect this view,* portraying Jesus as a divine being..." (Vermes, Christian Beginnings, p. 202). Bart Ehrman (atheist/agnostic) *"Justin Martyr was one of the earliest thinkers to articulate a clear doctrine of Jesus as the Logos, existing with God from the beginning... He saw Jesus as both preexistent and divine,* a belief that laid important groundwork for later Christological developments" (Ehrman, How Jesus Became God, p. 164).
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"Are people seriously thinking Sam and William won this one? Trinitarians will blindly follow any Trinitarian apologist simply because they’re on the same team. If you’re thinking critically, just listen to what was actually said-Greg absolutely dismantled their arguments. Thanks for posting this, Sam, so people who think for themselves can see how embarrassed both you and William were. Notice how Sam dodged Greg’s point about ‘angel’ being a functional term. Sam was out of answers the moment Greg brought that up."
Exactly. They are bozos. Greg absolutely destroyed them and Sam kicked him because Greg embarrassed him. Listen to what is actually said. Greg won this. Bafoons.
@@TheExegeticalChristian Greg didn't want them to reply, so chose to run. He knew his lies were about to be exposed, so left with his tail between his legs. All glory to Jesus....
Honestly, why do click on these? I am so sick and tired of Sam. He's just an unloving bully. I'd encourage everyone to support GodLogic instead. It becomes even more obvious when Sam is next to anyone else that he lacks self-control.
John 14: 11 - Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. Jesus in human nature was a prophet on Earth and the Messiah. He was unique because his spirit was the same as from the father. And that's why God in the flesh. Jesus was literally the voice of God and not just a messenger. Jesus was born for humanity as a test for true faith. Jesus became the WORD of God. And the WORD was with God and the WORD is God. So the WORD "so Jesus" was with God before his human nature. Before Abraham was "I Am". Very clear all Jesus was born in human nature to be an example for humans how to live you're life and the sacrifice he made on the cross to take away the sins for humans with true faith. Furthermore don't know what the deal is with this Trinity, it's just a name given for God, God's Spirit and Jesus the true word of God. Just one big beautiful act of God.
Jesus never “became” the Word, you’re adding to the text. The Word was in the beginning, the Word always existed. And quite the opposite from what you said, the Word became flesh (John 1:14), not the other way around.
@bezel95 You are right yes. But i'm just talking in away that he was born on Earth so on Earth he became the word of God. But yes technically in spirit he was always the word of God. Thanks for the info and God bless.
Nice job Greg. You made them both look like amateurs. Sam couldn't even articulate a coherent argument. William being dishonest as always. Keep destroying these heretics.
@de1623 Nonsense. Sam and William must be the ultimate Muslims then as they talk over everyone in just about every debate/discussion. Whether he used deuteros or heteros doesn't matter. The point he made is what matters. William will always try and make a game of semantics, or just tell outright falsehoods. See his debate with pastor Steven Ritchie for example. Greg was just too good and was able to shut him down before he was able to play that game. Like it or not, Greg is pretty sharp in a debate setting. Anyone who watches this discussion with a neutral mindset knows Greg dominated the conversation.
Sam didn't do nothing but but throw an the towel and claimed victory for nothing. He and his friend just can't debate without trying to belittle the guy.
@@graverobbersministry8939 watch the video. They both behaved very respectfully and gave plenty of time for him and didn't talk over him. He was constantly talking over sam
Correct theological enemies.. when you hear an opponent from a different faith attacking you I think Greg takes it as spiritual enemies because Sam consider him son of a harlot or son of the devil and many other phrases
How times did the Watchtower Society add the word "other" to St. Paul's words in his epistle to the Colossians before they converted him to a Unitarian?
@alisterrebelo9013 Paul was always a Unitarian. Its a bit like the indefinite article, A, in John 1:1 if you take it out of John, you take it out of every verse in the bible, which makes it difficult to read. The Greek is very different from English. Translators have to add and omit words took make it more ledgible in English. This doesn't change the narrative. If someone tells you something, you don't generally pass it on verbatum. This is how languages are translated.
@@davidscott2809 You haven't answered the question. Why not? The answer is 4, the number of times the word "other" has been added in Colossians 1:15-17, highlighted below. New World Translation 2013 Colossians 1:15-17 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all *OTHER* things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All *OTHER* things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all *OTHER* things, and by means of him all *OTHER* things were made to exist, Q2) If the word "other" is removed from the 4 instances are these Unitarian verses?
@alisterrebelo9013 I have answered the question, you just don't understand Greek, or how languages are translated. If you could find a very early Greek manuscript, you will find the words added, omitted, and changed. Same with pre Victorian English.
@@davidscott2809 Dodged 2 factual questions so far. Without the word "other", Colossians 1:15-17 is saying Jesus was involved in creating EVERYTHING without a single exception. It also says Jesus was before EVERYTHING without a single exception, and because of Jesus EVERYTHING, without exception exists. With the word "other", your theology make sense that Jesus is excluded, and the Father created him. Do you agree? Colossians 1:16-17 KJV - 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
@@johnchauke7492 Greg started manifesting as soon as he realised William was going to expose his false claim that heteros and duteros are equivalent. William speaks and reads Greek at a native level. Greg was going to be pantsed big-time, on that lie.
@@alisterrebelo9013 Still heteros means different. Justin said Heteros Theo and not heteros person, so that would still make Jesus a second God since he called him a different God
@@johnchauke7492 Let's walk through this slowly. Greg Stafford's factual error #1 - Greg was factually wrong to claim Justin used the words "deuteros theos". Justin used the term "heteros (or eteros) theos". Do you dispute that Greg made an error on the exact words used by Justin?
e em the Lord Jesus say that there are three person Matthew 22:41-45 he say the Spirit speak to David is one person . and the Lord is another person .to David's Lord is another person . there is three
Jesus christ is the glorious NAME of almighty God who became flesh and dwelled with man as Emmanuel God with us, and is not a separate God or person or beings, almighty God is in all things by His eternal Spirit of life and grace, and He is not a trinity God and has no limitations.
@zimcoder Do you know who Jesus is? And He was teaching the disciples how to pray, and it was not for His benefit. Question, Is the glorified lamb sitting on His glorious throne.?
@JesusisLord213-z6h In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the WORD WAS GOD, And the word, God became flesh and dwelled with man, Question Did God became flesh and blood, as Emmanuel God with us, or is the scriptures wrong? Second question, Is the God who became flesh the sacrifical lamb/body of God?
You think you're making sense but by your logic you make the Bible contradict itself. Jesus is not the Father. The Father is not Jesus. It's that simple. Anything else is blasphemy and you start to claim Jesus is dishonest.
Like just think about this adventists believe that elen g white was a prophetess from god .....but THEN they will say weelllll she also makes tons of mistakes . where is the god she believes in ? How did he let her make suck errors..like look at this disaster (the great controversy written by elen g white-chapter 15-Century after century the blood of the SAINTS had been shed. While the Waldenses laid down their lives upon the mountains of Piedmont “for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ,” SIMILAR WITNESS TO THE TRUTH HAD BEEN BORNE BY THEIR BRETHREN (‼️THE ALBIGENSES OF FRANCE‼️) great controversy chapter 6-Thus Rome decreed that the light of God's word should be extinguished and the people should be shut up in darkness. But Heaven had provided other agencies for the preservation of the church. Many of the Waldenses and (‼️ALBIGENSES‼️)driven by persecution from their homes in France and Italy, came to Bohemia. Though they dared not teach openly, they labored zealously in secret. THUS THE TRUE FAITH WAS PRESERVED FROM CENTURY TO CENTURY , -albigenses of France= They were "saints" who were a "witness to the truth,They were an agency "provided" by "heaven" to preserve the church, They were instrumental in preserving faith "from century to century")..-The Albigensians, also known as Cathars, were a Christian dualist movement that emerged in the 12th century in southern France, particularly in the region around Albi (hence "Albigensians")The Albigensians followed a dualistic belief system, influenced by earlier Gnostic ideas and possibly by the teachings of the Bogomils of the Balkans They believed in two opposing forces or deities: a good, spiritual God (the God of the New Testament) and an evil, material god (often identified with the God of the Old Testament).The good God was the creator of the spiritual realm, while the evil god, sometimes associated with Satan or a fallen angel, created the material world. Because they believed the material world was created by an evil force, the Albigensians saw it as inherently corrupt and fallen. They viewed human souls as divine or pure spirits trapped in physical bodies, which they saw as prisons created by the evil god. Salvation, for them, involved liberation from the material world. This rejection extended to practices that celebrated or involved the body, leading them to reject practices and doctrines associated with the Catholic Church, such as the sacraments (especially the Eucharist and Baptism, which use physical elements).They denied the doctrines of the Incarnation (the belief that Christ was God made flesh), the Crucifixion, and the Resurrection of Christ, viewing these events as part of the material world and thus illusory or unimportant. They held that Jesus was a purely spiritual being sent by the good God to reveal knowledge (gnosis) that would help souls escape the material world. He was not born, did not physically die, and was not physically resurrected. They also rejected the Old Testament, viewing it as a text about the evil god.Many Albigensians believed in reincarnation. They saw reincarnation as the soul’s journey through multiple lives, seeking purification from the material world. This belief supported their ascetic practices, as they aimed to end the cycle of reincarnation and return to the spiritual realm by rejecting worldly attachments and sins.) but she is still a PrOpHeTeSs 🤡
From both sides. Both sides were to defensive and ready to jump on the others points. Could have been a much better exchange with a little more patience.
Sam shouldn’t have brought William up. A 1 v 1 discussion could’ve been far better. Sam wanted to make his own points, William wanted to talk about the points in his debate, Greg wanted to make his own points. So all three were on different pages and it wasn’t orderly. If it’s 1 v 1, you can get the other person to agree what the topic is, then address it and take turns.
@@bhaveaniceday5392 Exactly. It didn’t help calling him “scared” twice, especially after he just came into the live stream. This only made him more defensive and essentially ended the discussion.
@@bhaveaniceday5392MY POINT EXACTLY this was a point that didn’t take this discussion far at all.. someone else that’s not Sam or the other should be there to regulate/modulate the debate
Exactly, Sam was going to misrepresent Greg thinking Jesus has a dual nature , Angel -man, like his false Trinatrian god. Greg’s view is totally supported by the Bible as you stated Jesus relinquished his divine nature Philp 2:5-8 👍🏼
Your view destroys itself, let’s show this. First Jesus was not the archangel in your beliefs, Michael was. If you are saying Jesus was the archangel and not Michael then show me where the Holy Bible says Jesus is the archangel? JWs believe that throughout the Old Testament when it refers to Him, He is by name Michael because His human nature did not exist yet only His Angelic nature. So Michael relinquished His angelic nature according to you. Then He had a human nature and became Jesus not Michael anymore according to you. Then He relinquished His human nature post resurrection according to you correct?
@@yahuhallah1259great so this person you speak of only has an angelic nature now post resurrection correct? He no longer has a human nature and does not have a dual nature correct? This is your beliefs?
@@bhaveaniceday5392the archangel Michael doesn't even have the same characteristics and authority as Jesus Christ. even Michael couldn't rebuke satan Jude 1:9 while Jesus rebuked satan in Matthew 4:10. and demons were afraid from him James 2:19 etc. can't possibly be the same being. and to add to that Hebrews 1:6 explicitly says that all angels will worship Jesus as God's begotten Son. so no Jesus ain't Micheal.
If Jesus is God, how is he from the "line of David"!!! Jesus does not have a human father so he can not have a human "bloodline" either! the Creator is not from any human tribe or group, stop associating HIM with them. Amen!!!
His Mother is from the line of David to be ethically Jewish you need to be born of a Jewish mother who Mary was and was of the house of David.Mary was a descendant of King David through her ancestor Nathan, the son of King David not that hard to grasp.Jesus was also fully human so yes we can subscribe him to the human tribe of which he was born of.
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The conversation started decent, but then Greg made a point that Justin Martyr wasn't a trinitarian. But then as soon as Sam was about to get VERY SPECIFIC about what Justin Marytr wrote, that's when Greg got louder and performative to hide the fact that he was being deceitful.
This is made evident in the fact that he was first like "You don't believe that! You don't believe what Justin Martyr believes!". But later on, when Sam says that Justin Marytr believed that the Father is Nameless, and that the LORD of hosts is the name of the Son(which is pretty important if you don't believe Jesus is God) then he says "I don't agree completely with Justin either." Huh? So then why are YOU appealing him?
Lies
@@chasethomas91 yep, Greg lied....
Sam, I am an ex unitarian. Thank you for defending the one true God of the bible as all the saints believed in the trinity. ☦️
Thank Jesus
What was the verse or verses that gave you the most problems?
@alisterrebelo9013
Tbh as a unitarian the only verses I had to defend unitarianism was john 17 3
Most unitarians are not actually unitarian, and are just anti trinitarian
They just like to give flawed enterpretations of clear trinitarian passages.
@@throughtheLOGOS Jesus worships God Revelation 19:5 Praise our God
@@throughtheLOGOS Thank you for your message. It is extremely helpful!
New people. Old heresies. These issues have been tackled centuries before, by cleverer and smarter people, many of them with ancient greek as their first language.
God bless you Sam.
@@superdavidss it’s easy you have to go to the Greek and you only have to learn a few words like I did like TON THEON THEOS AND ARCHE then you can decide for your self if Jesus is God or a part of the trinty
😂Greg did a video for almost 3 hours about this 10 minutes video and was totally drunk and calling you both fat and was very angry in the end. He is demon possessed. He agree with me that it was showing in his stream.
First time hearing this guy Greg Stafford, shouldn't be judgmental, but he does sound a bit narcissistic and sociopathic.
If you stick around apologetics long enough, you'll hear of him. He's debated Jamed White years ago, and those debates are available to watch.
My goodness it is about time these two had a debate... Go easy on him sam 😂
What a coward. Can't face the truth.
There is no greater sin than cowardice.
He can run off at the mouth in this world, but he won't have the same courtesy bestowed to him when he'll stand before the King of Glory.
Greg will have to be muted to make a point. He is insufferable. God bless!
The fact that this Greg guy wouldn't close his mouth for 5 seconds, showed he was afraid of what would be said. When you are afraid of what someone else will say, you will do anything to not let them say it. So Greg --- a coward. If he was truly secure in his position, if his position was truly correct, he wouldn't be afraid of someone else speaking.
What ?
They need a full moderated debate. This was very underwhelming.
The angels sing when the name Jesus is spoken. A house divided cannot stand amongst Christians. ❤
@@rickjensen2833 yes, sing praises to Jehovah.
@@davidscott2809 Yep, Jesus is Jehovah > Hebrews 1:6-8
@jayseth if you read the context, it's clear that Christ isn't Jehovah. V 2 calls Christ heir of God, v 4 he inherited a more excellent name than his peers.v6 called firstborn. V13, sits at God's right hand. He is also the mediator between God and man. High priest of God. Appears before the face of God. HEB. 9:24
Yikes, that was embarrassing for that guy. He wouldn't even let you finish half a sentence before he interrupted you, and the fact that he had the audacity to say you wouldn't let him answer your question when you never even had a chance to finish asking is insane to me.
I don't think he's cowardly, I just think he's filled with such false confidence and is starting from a place of certainty that he thinks he can control the flow of discussion and look strong to others while doing it.
I love how all the three were talking over each other, I died from laughing. ❤❤❤❤
"People can have differing opinions, and that’s fine, but let’s be clear: Greg was neither the coward here nor the one talking over others. The lack of integrity shown in this comment section is honestly embarrassing. William is a joke. Whether Justin referred to deuteros theos or heteros theos makes no difference-both imply the same thing, and William completely missed the point. Greg’s argument wasn’t about whether Justin said 'a second' or 'another'; it was that Justin wasn’t referring to a 'person of God,' but to ‘another theos.’ William, where did Justin refer to a person? Are you even thinking? And anyone who believes this clown actually made a point here is equally misguided.
As for Sam, your inability to answer a straightforward question speaks volumes. ‘Angel’ is a functional term, and you know Greg is right-that’s why you couldn’t finish your point. The issue wasn’t Greg interrupting; it was that your premise didn’t hold up. Greg already answered you: Jesus is the same person, though not necessarily in the same form. You didn’t let Greg leave; you kicked him out. Watching you all hide behind each other’s support is pathetic. Greg has openly challenged you to a moderated debate, and everyone can see you’re avoiding it-except for the blind followers clinging to this act.
Your attempts to comfort each other here were nothing short of humiliating."
Sam and William lost this. Greg wants to have a moderated debate with Sam. Sam doesn’t 🤣🤣
Greg is that you?
@@adderall7104 Sam, is that you
@@ljnouata9088 abort mission our cover is blown!!
@@adderall7104 😂 nice profile name. I like that song by aywy and Ephrem.
Someone needs to invite Greg to Mass and lunch after. He needs love.
Being contradictive doesn't make you correct, Greg.
"Sam, you really think you were brilliant in this one? Is 'angel' not a functional term? Where are you running? And for the record, you were the one who ended the conversation-Greg didn’t leave on his own. Can you spell coward?"
If they were the same Greg they wouldn't use different words for it. Not how it works greg! 🤦♂Gregs a runner hes a track star
Shouldn't we use that same logic for Betulah and Alma?
Also is there a difference in "God" used in John 1:1?
Sam is is a heric 💀 he listens to William like a little dog 😂
You both were childish.
Sam, you couldn’t answer the simple question of whether you viewed “Angel” as a functional term or not because you didn’t want to get cooked. Sounds to me like you did the running, not Greg. What person decides to have 2 gang up on 1 guy? And then William couldn’t justify why he joined in the conversation, saying that Greg had been saying stuff about him and then when Greg questioned William what he had said, William ignored him! Wow. I think I knew who were the ones that were scared.
Sam had to ask William to join him cause he can’t talk to Greg on his own. What a coward.
*Proverbs 16:29*
*29* A violent man entices his neighbor,
And leads him in a way that is not good.
*Proverbs 22:24*
*24* Make no friendship with an angry man,
And with a furious man do not go,
*Proverbs 3:31*
*31* Do not envy the oppressor,
And choose none of his ways;
3 followers/scholars of the word and yet you still see the Flesh at work not letting each other have a conversation! OH Lord Jesus!! This is not even a debate, feels like one upping each another. Calling another brother a coward, or afraid is not following the verse, Ephesians 4:29 "Do NOT let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is HELPFUL FOR BUILDING OTHERS UP according to their needs, that it may BENEFIT those who listen" Ya'll need to take a chill pill and conversate!
That wasn’t even a „debate“. That was practically „nothing“.
@ lol true
I do not know if anyone felt this, but I felt bad for Greg and Sam when Greg said that Sam is making fun of him, and I love how Sam told Greg that it is okay to insult him. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Lil bro ran 😂
he is yellow, lever may be damaged.
It’s called his lighting in the room. Ad homenum attacks don’t make you right.
"Hey @WilliamAlbrecht where exactly does heteros theos mean 'another person' instead of 'another god'? Can you spell M-O-R-O-N? And @SamShamun, isn’t 'angel' a functional term? Can you spell out J-O-K-E? That’s what are Sam . Thanks for posting this; watching your own humiliation has been awesome!"
I didn't know they let goodwill workers like you access to the internet.
Yikes, don't drink before commenting dude....
I wouldn’t waste my time with a man who is rude . I would allow my audience who what to learn to understand that Holy Spirit is a Holy being and has a way to speak with Wisdom. A fool can’t stand in the face of God .
They proliferate with yappalations.
I'm an Aluminate' that teaches One Humanitarian Truth Under God. The Bible can be argued either way when it comes down to whether or not Jesus is God. Now Sam teaches the Trinitarian view well because he has worked really hard at teaching it. It's where his fame and notoriety comes from. But the Bible can be argued either way. That's exactly why it's clarified in the Quran and God's New World's Testament.
Wow Greg has really gotten rude. I bet he couldnt even articulate the argument sam was trying to make. All mouth and no ears
Lol look at the state of Greg, wow what a mess
😂Greg destroyed them
Heritic
Greg destroyed himself lol
@@ItsPainnzexactly
He destroyed himself with a verse that shows Jesus is not the archangel Michael
Yep, Greg's false greek ''destroyed them'' 😆
All glory to Jesus.....
You all sound like teenage boys in high school. None of you takes the higher ground.
I can smell the grease behind you’re screen
Sam rage quit 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂 Greg killed 2 birds with 1 stone
Those 2 rude bird 😆
With him using fake greek? 😆
All glory to Jesus....
Thanks for wasting my time!
thank the female d-0-g who birthed you since she wasted her time being in heat just to give birth to you.
I understand that Greg might be interrupting, but that doesn’t mean you’re not interrupting him as well. When Greg tries to stay focused on the topic being asked, it’s not helpful for Sam to call him a coward or accuse him of being scared. That's just rude. That kind of behavior provokes a reaction that might come across as Greg talking over you. Honestly, it feels like you're ganging up on him, which can seem a bit unfair. Unfortunately, this approach doesn’t reflect the qualities needed for a constructive debate.
Greg wants to have a moderated debate with Sam. Sam doesn’t. That speaks volumes.
@ljnouata9088 No, I’ve seen Sam debating others online, and he often jumps to reading texts like 'read this, read that,' even when the other person is still explaining. Because of this, I don’t think he’d do well in a moderated debate.
He also struggles to make his point clear. For example, when he asked if Jesus was a man or an angel while on earth, it wasn’t clear if he was asking about types of beings. Greg had to clarify that 'angel' refers to a function, not a type of being, and suggested Sam make his question clearer. Instead of addressing this, Sam dismissed Greg as someone trying to avoid the question
@@dunphillpanama yes Sam just wants to argue for the sake of arguing. He doesn’t care if he’s wrong or not. He just has that win at all costs, whilst insulting the other person, mentality. schoolboy tactics. The man is deadset and idiot.
Justin Martyr clearly stated that Jesus is another God and Lord subject to the creator. You guys trying to argue with that shows you don't know your story.
Pull up a Greek Bible dictionary and parse heteros theos for us. Dictionary name, and page numbers please.
@alisterrebelo9013 You couldn't pull it yourself? Is Homo and Heteros the same word to you? Heteros means different. He said Jesus is a different God(heteros theos).
@@johnchauke7492 Correct Justin said "heteros (or eteros) theos" NOT "duteros theos". Don't equivocate "another" and "second" in English, and falsely assume it holds true in the Greek.
Justin was talking with a Unitarian (Jewish) much like I am conversing with a Unitarian right now. The context being to show that there exists eternally alongside the Father, ANOTHER who exists prior to all creation.
Geza Vermes (Jewish scholar)
"In the second century, we see the emergence of beliefs that *JESUS, AS THE LOGOS, WAS PRESENT WITH GOD FROM BEFORE CREATION. Justin Martyr’s writings reflect this view,* portraying Jesus as a divine being..." (Vermes, Christian Beginnings, p. 202).
Bart Ehrman (atheist/agnostic)
*"Justin Martyr was one of the earliest thinkers to articulate a clear doctrine of Jesus as the Logos, existing with God from the beginning... He saw Jesus as both preexistent and divine,* a belief that laid important groundwork for later Christological developments" (Ehrman, How Jesus Became God, p. 164).
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Sam you was not fair
ok
He was fair
2 against one that’s not fair
"Are people seriously thinking Sam and William won this one? Trinitarians will blindly follow any Trinitarian apologist simply because they’re on the same team. If you’re thinking critically, just listen to what was actually said-Greg absolutely dismantled their arguments. Thanks for posting this, Sam, so people who think for themselves can see how embarrassed both you and William were. Notice how Sam dodged Greg’s point about ‘angel’ being a functional term. Sam was out of answers the moment Greg brought that up."
Says someone who likes his own comment.
@@ChristOverAllJeremyI did not like my own comment, but thank you for stopping by an embarrassed yourself
@@ChristOverAllJeremy I did not like my own comment, but thank you for stopping by an embarrassed yourself
Exactly. They are bozos. Greg absolutely destroyed them and Sam kicked him because Greg embarrassed him. Listen to what is actually said. Greg won this.
Bafoons.
@@TheExegeticalChristian Greg didn't want them to reply, so chose to run. He knew his lies were about to be exposed, so left with his tail between his legs.
All glory to Jesus....
lol this dude NEVER shuts up
Greg is definitely a false teacher.
No hes not ?
@michaelhaigh9182 His doctrine screams false and non biblical, he is a false teacher.
Honestly, why do click on these? I am so sick and tired of Sam. He's just an unloving bully. I'd encourage everyone to support GodLogic instead. It becomes even more obvious when Sam is next to anyone else that he lacks self-control.
Yikes
This Greg guy just keeps talking as if no one else is there, ignoring questions and asking questions but not letting anyone answer his questions 😅
Greg is a clown.
John 14: 11 - Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
Jesus in human nature was a prophet on Earth and the Messiah. He was unique because his spirit was the same as from the father. And that's why God in the flesh. Jesus was literally the voice of God and not just a messenger.
Jesus was born for humanity as a test for true faith.
Jesus became the WORD of God. And the WORD was with God and the WORD is God. So the WORD "so Jesus" was with God before his human nature. Before Abraham was "I Am".
Very clear all Jesus was born in human nature to be an example for humans how to live you're life and the sacrifice he made on the cross to take away the sins for humans with true faith.
Furthermore don't know what the deal is with this Trinity, it's just a name given for God, God's Spirit and Jesus the true word of God. Just one big beautiful act of God.
Jesus never “became” the Word, you’re adding to the text. The Word was in the beginning, the Word always existed. And quite the opposite from what you said, the Word became flesh (John 1:14), not the other way around.
@bezel95 You are right yes. But i'm just talking in away that he was born on Earth so on Earth he became the word of God. But yes technically in spirit he was always the word of God.
Thanks for the info and God bless.
@@hielogogo9109 The Word always existed and He also created everything. The Word became flesh.
Nice job Greg. You made them both look like amateurs. Sam couldn't even articulate a coherent argument. William being dishonest as always. Keep destroying these heretics.
LOL, Greg wouldn't even let them talk, used the old muslim tactic...
Greg chose to lie about the greek and was rightly exposed.
All glory to Jesus....
@de1623 Nonsense. Sam and William must be the ultimate Muslims then as they talk over everyone in just about every debate/discussion. Whether he used deuteros or heteros doesn't matter. The point he made is what matters. William will always try and make a game of semantics, or just tell outright falsehoods. See his debate with pastor Steven Ritchie for example. Greg was just too good and was able to shut him down before he was able to play that game. Like it or not, Greg is pretty sharp in a debate setting. Anyone who watches this discussion with a neutral mindset knows Greg dominated the conversation.
Sam didn't do nothing but but throw an the towel and claimed victory for nothing. He and his friend just can't debate without trying to belittle the guy.
He didn't even allow Sam to talk. That guy was straight out spamming and also tried to diss William, but William was calm and handled it like a pro
@ lack of observance. Both were teaming up against the guy, then just continued bullying him with name calling.
@@graverobbersministry8939 that guy rambled for longer than sam and William speaking combined
@ you only heard it like that because your bias.
@@graverobbersministry8939 watch the video. They both behaved very respectfully and gave plenty of time for him and didn't talk over him. He was constantly talking over sam
Very sad if Greg said both of you are enemies.
Correct theological enemies.. when you hear an opponent from a different faith attacking you I think Greg takes it as spiritual enemies because Sam consider him son of a harlot or son of the devil and many other phrases
The apostle Paul could not have been more Unitarian if he tried.
How times did the Watchtower Society add the word "other" to St. Paul's words in his epistle to the Colossians before they converted him to a Unitarian?
@alisterrebelo9013 Paul was always a Unitarian. Its a bit like the indefinite article, A, in John 1:1 if you take it out of John, you take it out of every verse in the bible, which makes it difficult to read. The Greek is very different from English. Translators have to add and omit words took make it more ledgible in English. This doesn't change the narrative. If someone tells you something, you don't generally pass it on verbatum. This is how languages are translated.
@@davidscott2809 You haven't answered the question. Why not? The answer is 4, the number of times the word "other" has been added in Colossians 1:15-17, highlighted below.
New World Translation 2013
Colossians 1:15-17
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all *OTHER* things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All *OTHER* things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all *OTHER* things, and by means of him all *OTHER* things were made to exist,
Q2) If the word "other" is removed from the 4 instances are these Unitarian verses?
@alisterrebelo9013 I have answered the question, you just don't understand Greek, or how languages are translated. If you could find a very early Greek manuscript, you will find the words added, omitted, and changed. Same with pre Victorian English.
@@davidscott2809 Dodged 2 factual questions so far.
Without the word "other", Colossians 1:15-17 is saying Jesus was involved in creating EVERYTHING without a single exception. It also says Jesus was before EVERYTHING without a single exception, and because of Jesus EVERYTHING, without exception exists.
With the word "other", your theology make sense that Jesus is excluded, and the Father created him. Do you agree?
Colossians 1:16-17 KJV - 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Greg... you are a sorry guy... we will pray for you..
They were not letting him talk
@@johnchauke7492 Greg started manifesting as soon as he realised William was going to expose his false claim that heteros and duteros are equivalent.
William speaks and reads Greek at a native level. Greg was going to be pantsed big-time, on that lie.
@@alisterrebelo9013 Still heteros means different. Justin said Heteros Theo and not heteros person, so that would still make Jesus a second God since he called him a different God
@@johnchauke7492 Let's walk through this slowly.
Greg Stafford's factual error #1 - Greg was factually wrong to claim Justin used the words "deuteros theos". Justin used the term "heteros (or eteros) theos".
Do you dispute that Greg made an error on the exact words used by Justin?
@@alisterrebelo9013 But I have already explained that he did make a mistake but them saying it means a different person it doesn't favour them at all.
Sam was so scared he was shivering and brought up William to his rescue 😂😂😂😂 Greg dismantled both of them at the same time
Don’t do drugs
bro is on drugs. arianism was refuted 1700 years ago.
your d-0-g Muhammad was scared and shivering since even Allah ran like Aisha when I started exposing your d-0-g Muhammad for all tp se. HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Leave that cult and come to the triune God of the bible
@ Leave your Trinity cult and come to the truth
e em the Lord Jesus say that there are three person Matthew 22:41-45 he say the Spirit speak to David is one person . and the Lord is another person .to David's Lord is another person . there is three
Jesus christ is the glorious NAME of almighty God who became flesh and dwelled with man as Emmanuel God with us, and is not a separate God or person or beings, almighty God is in all things by His eternal Spirit of life and grace, and He is not a trinity God and has no limitations.
So When Jesus was praying, was he praying to himself?
@zimcoder Do you know who Jesus is? And He was teaching the disciples how to pray, and it was not for His benefit. Question, Is the glorified lamb sitting on His glorious throne.?
@@marcusvanrensberg6060 if Jesus is the name of God, does that mean he is God? who is the Father and Spirit then?
@JesusisLord213-z6h In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the WORD WAS GOD, And the word, God became flesh and dwelled with man, Question Did God became flesh and blood, as Emmanuel God with us, or is the scriptures wrong? Second question, Is the God who became flesh the sacrifical lamb/body of God?
You think you're making sense but by your logic you make the Bible contradict itself.
Jesus is not the Father. The Father is not Jesus. It's that simple. Anything else is blasphemy and you start to claim Jesus is dishonest.
It would be awesome for bible flock box to debate you, his name is greg too and sam destroying two gregs seems fitting 😂
Man this adventist guy would cope for elen g white for hours
Like just think about this adventists believe that elen g white was a prophetess from god .....but THEN they will say weelllll she also makes tons of mistakes . where is the god she believes in ? How did he let her make suck errors..like look at this disaster (the great controversy written by elen g white-chapter 15-Century after century the blood of the SAINTS had been shed. While the Waldenses laid down their lives upon the mountains of Piedmont “for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ,” SIMILAR WITNESS TO THE TRUTH HAD BEEN BORNE BY THEIR BRETHREN (‼️THE ALBIGENSES OF FRANCE‼️) great controversy chapter 6-Thus Rome decreed that the light of God's word should be extinguished and the people should be shut up in darkness. But Heaven had provided other agencies for the preservation of the church. Many of the Waldenses and (‼️ALBIGENSES‼️)driven by persecution from their homes in France and Italy, came to Bohemia. Though they dared not teach openly, they labored zealously in secret. THUS THE TRUE FAITH WAS PRESERVED FROM CENTURY TO CENTURY , -albigenses of France= They were "saints" who were a "witness to the truth,They were an agency "provided" by "heaven" to preserve the church,
They were instrumental in preserving faith "from century to century")..-The Albigensians, also known as Cathars, were a Christian dualist movement that emerged in the 12th century in southern France, particularly in the region around Albi (hence "Albigensians")The Albigensians followed a dualistic belief system, influenced by earlier Gnostic ideas and possibly by the teachings of the Bogomils of the Balkans They believed in two opposing forces or deities: a good, spiritual God (the God of the New Testament) and an evil, material god (often identified with the God of the Old Testament).The good God was the creator of the spiritual realm, while the evil god, sometimes associated with Satan or a fallen angel, created the material world. Because they believed the material world was created by an evil force, the Albigensians saw it as inherently corrupt and fallen.
They viewed human souls as divine or pure spirits trapped in physical bodies, which they saw as prisons created by the evil god. Salvation, for them, involved liberation from the material world.
This rejection extended to practices that celebrated or involved the body, leading them to reject practices and doctrines associated with the Catholic Church, such as the sacraments (especially the Eucharist and Baptism, which use physical elements).They denied the doctrines of the Incarnation (the belief that Christ was God made flesh), the Crucifixion, and the Resurrection of Christ, viewing these events as part of the material world and thus illusory or unimportant.
They held that Jesus was a purely spiritual being sent by the good God to reveal knowledge (gnosis) that would help souls escape the material world. He was not born, did not physically die, and was not physically resurrected.
They also rejected the Old Testament, viewing it as a text about the evil god.Many Albigensians believed in reincarnation. They saw reincarnation as the soul’s journey through multiple lives, seeking purification from the material world.
This belief supported their ascetic practices, as they aimed to end the cycle of reincarnation and return to the spiritual realm by rejecting worldly attachments and sins.) but she is still a PrOpHeTeSs 🤡
That Greg guy wouldnt understood anything about what anyone believes because he wont listen.
Not a very pleasant exchange.
From both sides. Both sides were to defensive and ready to jump on the others points. Could have been a much better exchange with a little more patience.
Sam shouldn’t have brought William up. A 1 v 1 discussion could’ve been far better. Sam wanted to make his own points, William wanted to talk about the points in his debate, Greg wanted to make his own points. So all three were on different pages and it wasn’t orderly. If it’s 1 v 1, you can get the other person to agree what the topic is, then address it and take turns.
@@bhaveaniceday5392
Exactly. It didn’t help calling him “scared” twice, especially after he just came into the live stream. This only made him more defensive and essentially ended the discussion.
@@bhaveaniceday5392MY POINT EXACTLY this was a point that didn’t take this discussion far at all.. someone else that’s not Sam or the other should be there to regulate/modulate the debate
Well, that was a load of crap
The thumb nail and opening statements really frame the way the discussion is in such a negative way. I will just pass on this one.
Sam the answer to your question. Jesus was the archangel before relinquishing his nature to become fully man....wasnt so hard now was it....Gbless.
Exactly, Sam was going to misrepresent Greg thinking Jesus has a dual nature , Angel -man, like his false Trinatrian god. Greg’s view is totally supported by the Bible as you stated Jesus relinquished his divine nature Philp 2:5-8 👍🏼
Your view destroys itself, let’s show this.
First Jesus was not the archangel in your beliefs, Michael was. If you are saying Jesus was the archangel and not Michael then show me where the Holy Bible says Jesus is the archangel?
JWs believe that throughout the Old Testament when it refers to Him, He is by name Michael because His human nature did not exist yet only His Angelic nature.
So Michael relinquished His angelic nature according to you. Then He had a human nature and became Jesus not Michael anymore according to you. Then He relinquished His human nature post resurrection according to you correct?
@@yahuhallah1259great so this person you speak of only has an angelic nature now post resurrection correct? He no longer has a human nature and does not have a dual nature correct? This is your beliefs?
@@bhaveaniceday5392the archangel Michael doesn't even have the same characteristics and authority as Jesus Christ. even Michael couldn't rebuke satan Jude 1:9 while Jesus rebuked satan in Matthew 4:10. and demons were afraid from him James 2:19 etc. can't possibly be the same being. and to add to that Hebrews 1:6 explicitly says that all angels will worship Jesus as God's begotten Son. so no Jesus ain't Micheal.
Jesus is not an Archangel which is a creation. Jesus is Jehovah God with the Father & Holy Spirit. Michael, Raphael & Gabriel are the Archangels.
If Jesus is God, how is he from the "line of David"!!! Jesus does not have a human father so he can not have a human "bloodline" either! the Creator is not from any human tribe or group, stop associating HIM with them. Amen!!!
His Mother was.
He was adopted and raised by his stepfather, Joseph, who was a descendant of David. According to God, that counts. He also had a human mother.
His Mother is from the line of David to be ethically Jewish you need to be born of a Jewish mother who Mary was and was of the house of David.Mary was a descendant of King David through her ancestor Nathan, the son of King David not that hard to grasp.Jesus was also fully human so yes we can subscribe him to the human tribe of which he was born of.
@@drummersagainstitk Jesus was a Jew….that is his heritage……
Jesus was the greatest Jewish rabbis that ever lived. If Jesus is the son of God then his DNA is pure. ❤