Coconut Flour vs. Almond Flour

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  • @gordyn5292
    @gordyn5292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    I use coconut flour because it’s a heck of a lot cheaper. Almond flour has got very expensive recently.

    • @KaeMuffin
      @KaeMuffin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Yeah, a lot of us do keto on a budget so I'm right there with you. Almond flour is significantly more expensive and some of us are trying to stretch a dollar.

    • @oscar7032
      @oscar7032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah because it’s getting more popular in the healthy diet! Everybody is switching from the processed bleached flour!

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Coconut flour is better for those that are hypothyroid.
      Cup for cup does not equate because you only use 1/4 or 1/3 cup of coconut vs 1 cup almond flour in a recipe.
      Comparing apples to oranges.
      Check out a new found "Janet's Delicious Low Carb Kitchen" youtube channel for great coconut flour recipes. She has terrific originals.

    • @espperre
      @espperre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      For years, Costco has been selling 3 pound bags of almond flour for around $11.99.

    • @KaeMuffin
      @KaeMuffin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@espperre Not everyone has access to a Costco ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @ITJoe17
    @ITJoe17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    Add eggs to coconut flour to make breakfast pancakes a bit fluffier.
    Here's a recipe I follow. Feel free to make some changes to the measurement based on your preference.
    - Half a cup coconut flour
    - 2 to 3 eggs
    - few drops of stevia
    - few drops of vanilla
    - dash of sea salt
    - melted butter or ghee
    - 5 tbsp water to make the batter pourable (not too much water though)
    What I noticed is that the eggs make the coconut pancakes fluffier.

    • @delmond7630
      @delmond7630 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      add more eggs than what you list in recipe? why say 'add more eggs'

    • @yes0r787
      @yes0r787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's roughly half the amount of coconut for 2 eggs (or liquid in general) as you would use of other flours.

    • @thejeweller1
      @thejeweller1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He doesn’t suggest coconut flour are you listening

    • @delmond7630
      @delmond7630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@thejeweller1 I don't think you were listening... he spoke of them as if they are a 1:1 substitute for each other and they are not... you'd use much less coconut flour than you would almond in a recipe therefore the carbs would be less - his comparison is misleading.

    • @thejeweller1
      @thejeweller1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@delmond7630 main problem with coconut is high sugar obviously not carbs

  • @RobCLynch
    @RobCLynch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +383

    I use both most of the time and at first I was worried about the number of carbs. However, it stopped me eating bread, pasta and rice, so I was able to lose more than 100 pounds in ten months.

    • @19910602011
      @19910602011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Help me I'm trying to lose 5lbs

    • @pga972
      @pga972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Awesome

    • @myoung5438
      @myoung5438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I believe you,I dont why, but,.. oh yeah, me tooish, 48 lbs lost since feb

    • @MP-kc8sl
      @MP-kc8sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Verdadeiro
      Where I live, almond flour is 6-7x more expensive so I rarely get it. Organic coco flour is really cheap at less than $2/kg.

    • @delmond7630
      @delmond7630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Verdadeiro It's because he's comparing them cup for cup but that is not how you use them. When using coconut flour you use a lot less of it because it is very absorbant

  • @vinyfiny2019
    @vinyfiny2019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Coconut flour is used in recipes in much smaller quantity vs almond flour because it's a lot more absorbent (¼-½ as much coconut flour vs almond flour for the same recipe). So yes it does have more sugar and carbs but you generally use much less of it. Plus depending on where you're buying it almond flour can be twice the price of coconut flour.

    • @88Timur88Bahmudov88
      @88Timur88Bahmudov88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Exactly! so when you are using coconut flour instead of almond flour, you are paying like 4-6 times less, because not only it's cheaper, you also need less of it
      So if you divide carb count, sugar and everything else by 2 or 4, you are getting about the same amount of them

    • @zeezee2535
      @zeezee2535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Make that FOUR times more expensive

  • @StayCoolKeto
    @StayCoolKeto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    🥥 *On another note, coconut flour is very absorbent so you need less of it! Personally, I think it has more a a traditional cake texture too* 🥥

    • @7azim3
      @7azim3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      That's right, with coconut flour you would need about a quarter of the quantity that you use with almond.

    • @frizzen
      @frizzen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Almond flour is high in Omega 6 fats (bad, and keep it in the fridge so it doesn't get rancid). Coconut flour is stable healthy saturated fat. I prefer Coconut flour, but I don't eat a lot of it.

    • @adamfink5294
      @adamfink5294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I have had the exact same experience. In the end using coconut flour may or may not have more net carbs per unit recipe volume of the finished food product, but even if it is slightly to somewhat higher carb it's not as pronounced as shown in this video once you account for less volume of coconut flour being required I think.

    • @StPetePurgeSurvivor
      @StPetePurgeSurvivor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So you make healthier cake?

    • @StayCoolKeto
      @StayCoolKeto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StPetePurgeSurvivor yes? lol

  • @hoboonwheels9289
    @hoboonwheels9289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Almonds grown in US are grown with enormous amounts of herbicides and pesticides, I buy mine from Spain. I like coconut flour too.

    • @ewaolkuska
      @ewaolkuska 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Almonds from Spain, all under dripping irrigation and grown in the same chemical way as in the USA, no difference.

  • @Dedo70
    @Dedo70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    For me, coconut flour still wins over almond flour. It is way easier for me to digest & in recipes you use way less so that the carbs are a non-issue.

    • @LoisPallisterCIY
      @LoisPallisterCIY ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes and the oxalates in almond flour are VERY high and also it has a high amount of Omega 6 fatty acids.

  • @angelotorrecampo4417
    @angelotorrecampo4417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Almonds are so expensive here in the Philippines, almonds dont grow here though. But coconut, we have a million tons of coconut here so I say that for me the winner is coconut flour because coconuts are less expensive here in the PH compared to Almonds, I also make my own coconut flour at home. We grow coconuts at the back of our house haha🥰

    • @RC-dj7ec
      @RC-dj7ec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, you can ferment coconut water for a very low sugar super nutritious lift. Go to Donna Gates website for how to. :)

    • @augusxx8548
      @augusxx8548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes so true

    • @cain7925
      @cain7925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      almond flour is like x5 more expensive

    • @zairnermuller4960
      @zairnermuller4960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where I live. 400 gr of CF: $3.00, while 120 gr of AF: $6.70.

    • @mrsmama9347
      @mrsmama9347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Almond flour is expensive here in Central Asia.

  • @jimsalmon5158
    @jimsalmon5158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Coconut flower absorbs significantly more moisture than almond flour, so you’d probably only want to use 1/4 or less coconut flour as a substitute for any recipe. Otherwise, the recipe will come out extremely dry.

    • @pancakeandpushup
      @pancakeandpushup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Infact I use coconut flour making banana bread and omg it was a disaster…….

  • @sophiawong5037
    @sophiawong5037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Thx Doc! When making keto treats 1 cup of almond flour (12g net carbs) = 1/4 cup coconut flour (6g net carbs). I like mixing both in order to get a more cake/bread like consistency.

  • @jinarose5374
    @jinarose5374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    For those of us with nut allergies, coconut flour got the win here. Lol.

    • @OswaldDigestiveClinic
      @OswaldDigestiveClinic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That tracks :)

    • @moneybitches4796
      @moneybitches4796 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Nut allergies” are not all “nuts”… as those are SEEDS, not all seeds are chemically the same. Jeez y’all are ignorant.

  • @carissaingratta6278
    @carissaingratta6278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To me coconut tastes better and cooks easier

  • @boondoggle4820
    @boondoggle4820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The thing is that you’re using a lot less than a cup of coconut flour while a similar recipe using almond flour could require multiple cups. I made a whole cake the other day that only required a quarter cup of coconut flour. A similarly sized cake may have required two cups of almond flour. I’ll continue to use both. Almond flour generally tastes better for cakes (except for yellow cake which I generally prefer to be more light and spongy, which I can achieve better using coconut flour) but I’m more willing to experiment with coconut flour because it’s much less expensive, especially when you consider that you have to use a lot less per recipe. If I’m making something for myself at home, I’m more likely to use coconut flour. If I’m making something to take to a party or family get together, I’m more likely to use almond flour.

    • @88Timur88Bahmudov88
      @88Timur88Bahmudov88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      try to add more fat when using coconut flour since it is so absorbent and has like 4 times less fat, you need to add it to get something that is as tasty as almond flour
      maybe some more coconut oil or butter

    • @gazsto
      @gazsto ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Usually melted butter helps the coconut flour taste. Many helpful recipes on TH-cam!

  • @kimdavis7812
    @kimdavis7812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I’m sensitive to almonds (red) therefore it’s only coconut flour for me 🥥

    • @thakraken6995
      @thakraken6995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pecan flour and a macadamia nut flower okay too

    • @mchrysogelos7623
      @mchrysogelos7623 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      there are MANY other flours to try (if you aren't allergic to others). I think in US we have fixated so much on "wheat flour" that we have neglected so many others.

    • @LifeInTheSunshine
      @LifeInTheSunshine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same!

    • @Sewsweet08Australia
      @Sewsweet08Australia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thakraken6995 have you tried grinding sunflower seeds it makes a good flour for muffins or biscuits. I usually use a little to adjust the flavour a bit. It makes similar to oats.

    • @thakraken6995
      @thakraken6995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Sewsweet08Australia Ive never tried that. May have to look into it

  • @Carey86
    @Carey86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I started using Almond+ flour which is basically half almond flour and half coconut flour. I love it! Plus it can be used in place of regular flour without having to adjust how much you use!

    • @kouten07
      @kouten07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great tip! Thanks. Where do you buy Almond+ ?

    • @Carey86
      @Carey86 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kouten07 Amazon.

  • @hamish3766
    @hamish3766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have no problem eating Almonds, but if I eat something made from Almond flour I have the upset stomach from hell

  • @pattijesinoski1958
    @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Except Almond flour is not so great for people with thyroid problems.

  • @bluebutterflywellness2273
    @bluebutterflywellness2273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I hear ya, Doc... I use both but I'm still team coconut flour. It's less expensive, and very absorbent so you don't need as much, plus I prefer the texture with mainly coconut flour and a little almond. It hasn't stopped me from losing weight. Also I hear nut products are higher in pesticides so, I've backed off a little more after hearing this. Still, thanks as always for the info! 💕

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Coconut flour is better for those that are hypothyroid.
      Cup for cup does not equate because you only use 1/4 or 1/3 cup of coconut vs 1 cup almond flour in a recipe.
      Comparing apples to oranges.
      Check out a new found "Janet's Delicious Low Carb Kitchen" youtube channel for great coconut flour recipes. She has terrific originals.

    • @bluebutterflywellness2273
      @bluebutterflywellness2273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pattijesinoski1958 Thanks! I am hypothyroid and agree. Also have been following Janet for a while now--she has helped revolutionize my recipes! 👍🏽

    • @daphneweldnichols3846
      @daphneweldnichols3846 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Patti! Please tell me what you know about how almond flour affects the thyroid gland, if possible. Going to sign up for Janet’s TH-cam channel. If you have a channel I’ll follow you! Happy Holidays! 🤗🤗👍🏻

  • @marciafoot
    @marciafoot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Two points to consider (not mentioned). 1) Almond flour is high in omega 6 which is inflammatory and the fat in coconut flour (although much less) is saturated & more stable. 2) In recipes, 1/4 cup coconut flour is considered equivalent to 1 cup almond flour. So, the coconut flour (fats/carbs/sugar) amounts need to be adjusted down for an equal comparison. Personally, I stay away from both.

    • @Mssclark
      @Mssclark 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What would you use? if you don’t mind me asking

    • @gazsto
      @gazsto ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are both relatively good for use, if in moderation, like anything if it is over-consumed, we can have problems!

  • @aishawilliams5933
    @aishawilliams5933 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just started my Keto journey today and was trying to google for this exact same info, and here you are with exactly what I need. Thank you doc.

  • @gazsto
    @gazsto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Almond Flour and Glycemic index: is less than 1 and Glycemic index: 49-51, still considered low, but the carbohydrates, most of which comes from fiber and it also contains a moderate amount of fat and protein. High In Fiber and Low In “Net” Carbohydrate. Almond Flour (per 100g) Carb 21.43 g Fiber 10.7 g/ Coconut Flour (per 100g) Carb 57.14 g Fiber 35.71 g. The most important piece of advice: moderation is the key as things that are considered healthy can easily turn the tables on you if consumed in large quantities either over a short or long period of time. Remember to take the total carb and deduct the fiber giving net carbs: One cup of broccoli has 11 grams of total carbs/ less 5 grams of fiber carbs = 6 grams of net carbs.

  • @cidk59
    @cidk59 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about the anti-nutrients in almond flour? Almond flour contains high amounts of Omega 6 fatty acids and phytic acid, an anti-nutrient that can inhibit the proper absorption of iron, calcium, zinc, magnesium and copper. Phytic acid affects digestion & can contribute to leaky gut. Omega 6 fatty acids create inflammation in the body. So it's not just about carbs. Just because a food is low in carbs, doesn't mean it's good for you. There is no phytic acid in coconut flour or Omega 6 fatty acids, so it's actually an anti-inflammatory. You may not want to eat loads of it, but I would rather eat a smaller amount of coconut flour that eat almonds!!!

  • @dough.9241
    @dough.9241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is a rather weak analysis considering that, as many others have said here, you generally use 1/4 to 1/3 of volume of coconut flour vs. almond flour in recipes. So the net carb difference is effectively reduced in real world use. Additionally, many folks have allergic reaction to almonds. And, finally, the lower price of coconut flour makes it a more-than-worthy contender. I do routinely use almond flour but coconut flour absolutely deserves its featured position in my pantry (refrigerator, actually).

    • @flexingfate-of8xi
      @flexingfate-of8xi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still more even if 1/4 of a cup . I am sure he did it by the cup to make it easier to understand .

  • @poornimawijendra
    @poornimawijendra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Thank you doc from Sri Lanka 🇱🇰I’m on my keto journey since April 2021 thanks to you already feeling and seeing the benefits 🙏🏽💐

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coconut flour is better for those that are hypothyroid.
      Cup for cup does not equate because you only use 1/4 or 1/3 cup of coconut vs 1 cup almond flour in a recipe.
      Comparing apples to oranges.
      Check out a new found "Janet's Delicious Low Carb Kitchen" youtube channel for great coconut flour recipes. She has terrific originals.

    • @mchrysogelos7623
      @mchrysogelos7623 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      GREAT!! Glad to hear it. wish you well on your health journey!!

  • @jb6712
    @jb6712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I use them both, and I've become somewhat adept at working the correct exchange (knowing that I need far less coconut flour in anything where almond flour is called for, coconut flour being so highly absorptive). I like the TASTE of almond flour better, but I like the TEXTURE of coconut flour far better in keto butter cookies, and in my keto mug cakes. Also, coconut flour works better in unleavened bread, something I really like a lot!!

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Coconut flour is better for those that are hypothyroid.
      Cup for cup does not equate because you only use 1/4 or 1/3 cup of coconut vs 1 cup almond flour in a recipe.
      Comparing apples to oranges.
      Check out a new found "Janet's Delicious Low Carb Kitchen" youtube channel for great coconut flour recipes. She has terrific originals.

    • @saraw1302
      @saraw1302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you please share the coconut flour butter cookies recipe please ? I want to make it for my toddler.

  • @dawne5139
    @dawne5139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I prefer almond flour for most baking. It makes lighter cakes. However, I also have recipes that combined both.

    • @88Timur88Bahmudov88
      @88Timur88Bahmudov88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      try adding more fat to coconut flour, because it has much less fat and you use less of it, so your cake ends up having less fat when made with coconut flour, maybe if you try to add it back it's gonna be better (if 1 cup of almond flour has 54 grams of fat, then replacement is 1/4 cup of coconut flour which will have like 5 grams of fat, so try to add about 40 grams additional fat to coconut flour, i think it will get at least a little bit better)

    • @Carlostype
      @Carlostype 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@88Timur88Bahmudov88 hi, in what form? Olive oil!

    • @88Timur88Bahmudov88
      @88Timur88Bahmudov88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Carlostype i think any type you like will work fine, it's just to add some fattiness, like when you add oil or batter to regular pancake batter, so you can use any types of oil, browned butter, regular butter, even coconut oil :)

  • @geraldinecespedes6178
    @geraldinecespedes6178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have one note for this video.
    It can not be compare in the same amount of these flours for the next reasons :
    One cup of almond flour can’t be substituted with the same amount of coconut flour because the coconut flour absorbs a lot of moisture and if we use the same proportion the recipe is not sustainable.
    The ratio is for every cup from almond flour we must use one quart of coconut flour and add more liquid to solve the dryness problem.
    If this is so, we must divide the nutritional values for this coconut flour in less.
    This is my humble point of view.
    Thank you very much in advance.

    • @schatz1876
      @schatz1876 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Geraldine Cespedes Instead of saying 1 quart you should say for every cup of almond flour you should use 4 cups of coconut flour. It's less confusing. 4 cups = 1 Quart

    • @geraldinecespedes6178
      @geraldinecespedes6178 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@schatz1876 You are wrong. The ratio is 1 quart coconut flour= 1 cup almond flour

    • @schatz1876
      @schatz1876 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geraldinecespedes6178 What am I wrong about ? 4 cups = 1 Quart

    • @geraldinecespedes6178
      @geraldinecespedes6178 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@schatz1876 One quarter cup...

    • @schatz1876
      @schatz1876 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geraldinecespedes6178 you said 1 Quart not 1/4 cup

  • @tylerhall9412
    @tylerhall9412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    100% whole wheat flour sourdough bread and 100% whole rye are the best for you in general if anyone was curious. even people with gluten allergies and other such allergies have often been found to be okay eating these. As long as they are actually 100% whole flour and not flour replacement. The fermentation process in sourdough and rye breads make it less allergenic for a lot of people, as far as bread goes anyways. worth looking into

    • @saraw1302
      @saraw1302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have been making sour dough every week. It is soooo good. Way better than store bought one from Costco. They do carry organic sour dough bread but inside no open crumbs. They are not good.

  • @monkeybiiyyy6399
    @monkeybiiyyy6399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You forgot to mention the phytic acid in almond flour which interrupts the absorption of most of it nutrients

  • @OverlandTT
    @OverlandTT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I can only really have coconut flour as I've got an almond allergy that started about 6 years ago

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Coconut flour is better for those that are hypothyroid.
      Cup for cup does not equate because you only use 1/4 or 1/3 cup of coconut vs 1 cup almond flour in a recipe.
      Comparing apples to oranges.
      Check out a new found "Janet's Delicious Low Carb Kitchen" youtube channel for great coconut flour recipes. She has terrific originals.

    • @tej226
      @tej226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also have tree nut allergies

  • @optimumpcyt
    @optimumpcyt ปีที่แล้ว +3

    yea but this comparison is wrong because you cant do an apples to apples comparison. i dont know anything about cooking but i just came from a cooking channel and they say 1 cup of almond flour is equal to 1/4 cup coconut flour so you use alot less coconut flour. you dont use 1 for 1.

  • @omariam05
    @omariam05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    However you failed to tell us the fat in almond flour is the highly inflammatory omega 6, which so bad, beside the high amount of oxalates. I personally use only coconut flour and would never touch almond flour.

    • @Betterlaylow1
      @Betterlaylow1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes !

    • @kristalnunley7205
      @kristalnunley7205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same here! Almonds cause so much inflammation in my body!

    • @canaryhoang989
      @canaryhoang989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He said don’t overdo it

    • @deskjockie4948
      @deskjockie4948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My understanding is that the oxalates in almonds are mostly in the skin, so blanched almond flour would be low in oxalates. As others here have commented, though, you usually use 1/3 to 1/4 the amount of coconut flour in a recipe, so the numbers need to be adjusted to reflect that.

    • @bakingforketo_hflc_vlc3442
      @bakingforketo_hflc_vlc3442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aha. Something I should always keep in mind. Yes, it does seem so inflammatory when you overeat (and it is easy to overeat almond flour)! As for coconut flour, the mushiness makes it less conducive to baking something like brownies. At least I have not been successful.

  • @shawnpark7620
    @shawnpark7620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As, mentioned below, you must triple the macros for the almond flour if you are doing a muffin recipe; 3 cups of almond flour. You would only use 1 cup of coconut flour for same recipe and adding more moisture....so for baking the difference isn't that huge.

  • @crowner6108
    @crowner6108 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes but when it comes to nut allergies the coconut flour will win hands down

  • @bagelfairy
    @bagelfairy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One point that needs to be brought up , is quantity of the ingredients: in recipes, almond flour is substituted at 1:1 ratios--however for coconut flour because it absorbs so much much moisture, it's only 1/3 as much as regular flour in a recipe and thus the carb count would be equal in recipe use.

  • @themarjoriedeleon
    @themarjoriedeleon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dr. Berg, pls discuss on the health benefits of bitter gourd or bitter melon. I believe it's the most potent food of all in combatting diabetes.

    • @mchrysogelos7623
      @mchrysogelos7623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we ate these all the time in china.

  • @scrispin777
    @scrispin777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Coconut flour is much much cheaper in south Asia than costly imported Almonds . Ten times costly or even more

  • @KSAalto
    @KSAalto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My skin rashes up with almond flour. So I stick with coconut flour when I have it.

    • @Buddhababe2
      @Buddhababe2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The oxalates in almond flour will cause a rash.

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Coconut flour is better for those that are hypothyroid.
      Cup for cup does not equate because you only use 1/4 or 1/3 cup of coconut vs 1 cup almond flour in a recipe.
      Comparing apples to oranges.
      Check out a new found "Janet's Delicious Low Carb Kitchen" youtube channel for great coconut flour recipes. She has terrific originals.

    • @CH-1984
      @CH-1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was wondering if almond flour was causing my neck to be red and itchy. But I thought blanched would be ok. Just two cookies (low carb dough) a day.

    • @Buddhababe2
      @Buddhababe2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CH-1984 sounds probable. Almonds are about the last food that I would eat. It’s the highest in oxalates-that and spinach. You might want to stop the almonds and see if you improve.

    • @KSAalto
      @KSAalto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pattijesinoski1958 thank you for that conversation!

  • @johnosullivan6439
    @johnosullivan6439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An important point that isn't mentioned in this video is that just one-third of a cup of coconut flour will make the same amount of, for e.g. bread as one whole cup of almond flour - you don't need to use nearly as much of it as you do of almond flour. So that brings the net carbs of coconut flour down to 18g (versus 10g for almond flour) and brings the sugar content down to 6g (versus 5g for almond flour). But of course I'm biased in favour of coconut flour, due to the fact that I'm nut intolerant and can't use almond flour :)

  • @jaredhansen2084
    @jaredhansen2084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Almonds contain many pesticides, and organic almond flour isn’t too available, and quite expensive, organic coconut flour is everywhere and cheap

  • @troyoldc3538
    @troyoldc3538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Many thanks Doc. Love and greetings from Istanbul. I admire your work.I have been following and doing exactly what you say about fasting and keto since april 2021 and feeling much more better now.

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      my cat loves you too😺♥️♥️♥️

    • @Soldier_Sean
      @Soldier_Sean 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Merhaba from Chile...a chilean turk ametican right here. Im starting in baking keto cakes...😊

  • @dianahowe4374
    @dianahowe4374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    almonds kept my weight down for 10 years then i ran into an oxalate problem so i had to stop. it was so good and convenient i ate ALOT of them.

  • @l.pmoonstone5067
    @l.pmoonstone5067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was literally asking myself this question last night! 😂 I want to make brownies but wasn’t sure which to use, coconut flour or almond flour.
    Thanks Dr.Berg 🙏

    • @boondoggle4820
      @boondoggle4820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve experimented with both for brownies, and for me the almond flour comes out better, but if I’m making a yellow cake for example, for me the coconut flour comes out better.

    • @OswaldDigestiveClinic
      @OswaldDigestiveClinic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Somehow, he just knows what we're all thinking!

    • @moniquewhitaker908
      @moniquewhitaker908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mix them.

  • @malee6986
    @malee6986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is my understanding that recipes requiring 1 cup of almond flour require only 1/4 cup of coconut flour, so a direct comparison as you are making does not work.

  • @OswaldDigestiveClinic
    @OswaldDigestiveClinic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a wonderful side by side comparison! Thanks for this.

  • @foxedrey622
    @foxedrey622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'll stick with some coconut oil in my coffee, and eating meat instead of nuts.

  • @rjdn7932
    @rjdn7932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You compare 1::1 ratio but its used 1::3 or 1::4 ratio so...

  • @BeneCapone
    @BeneCapone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I use organic Coconut Flour from dm (German drugstore). 1 Cup (125g) has 451 kcal, 19g fat, 25g protein, 25g carbs and 44g fiber. So basically 0 net carbs.

    • @monokumannius4522
      @monokumannius4522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is a bit weird. The net carb would be then -19g or the most possible explanation would be the written carb there is already in terms of net carbs

    • @garyhiland6013
      @garyhiland6013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@monokumannius4522 Yup, a bit weird. My guess is that it is 69g carbs, 44g fiber and 25g net carbs.

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Coconut flour is better for those that are hypothyroid.
      Cup for cup does not equate because you only use 1/4 or 1/3 cup of coconut vs 1 cup almond flour in a recipe.
      Comparing apples to oranges.
      Check out a new found "Janet's Delicious Low Carb Kitchen" youtube channel for great coconut flour recipes. She has terrific originals.

    • @BeneCapone
      @BeneCapone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garyhiland6013 I don't think that this would be legal to declare a product like this in the European Community. Carbs are carbs in total and not net carbs. And I saw also other coconut flour products with similar nutrition values.

    • @naelna
      @naelna 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No dude it's 25g net carbs plus 44g fiber, in a cup. Google it. There is no zero net carbs Coconut flour out there.

  • @olivia8979
    @olivia8979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Interesting. For some reason I thought it was the other way around and Almond flour had more carbs.
    I don't really like coconut flour because you don't always want that flavor. So I think I'll stop using it.
    I have been adding lupin flour to almond flour when i use it and it improves the texture.

  • @kumbaga
    @kumbaga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the fact that he compared one cup of coconut flour to one cup of almond is invalid in daily intake. Nobody uses one cup of coconut flour to replace one cup of almond. So your intake is less grams than that. “Almond flour is the winner.” No it’s not when it costs more than twice the coconut flour.

  • @youpigfacetv
    @youpigfacetv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FYI, 1 cup of coconut flour is not equal to 1 cup of almond and/or traditional flour. The ratio is 0.25 : 1. 1/4 cup of coconut flour is equivalent to 1 cup of almond flour.

  • @peacequeen2579
    @peacequeen2579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen other Drs claim almonds have a chemical that is not good at all for bodily systems. It's getting hard to understand what is right anymore

  • @yuni1566
    @yuni1566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Coconut Flour is very absorbent

  • @roulaajib
    @roulaajib 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am using only almond flour for bread and most of sweets as it gives the natural taste of the main recipe in wheat flour. Coconut flour is only for recipes with lots of lemon flavor only

  • @bonniem9970
    @bonniem9970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I disagree. Almonds are sprayed with lots of chemicals unless you buy organic. Organic almond flour is very hard to find. I tend to count chemicals not calories.

    • @MontanaWelldigger
      @MontanaWelldigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you think these giant corporate farms are really telling the truth about organics, you're silly. Buy from small local farmers.

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point. Thanks.

  • @wardrobelion
    @wardrobelion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this comparison. I knew almond flour was more nutritious but I was unaware of the amount of carbs to fiber in coconut flour! I always felt that coconut 🥥 was used to help people GAIN weight and I was right. Society is just pushing something “ New” as a money maker for someone….great job informing us👍👍👍👍!

  • @1thinkhealthy
    @1thinkhealthy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like almond flour but I want to cut down on oxalates. Most recipes uses 1/3 to 1/4 coconut flour compare to almond so that helps some.

  • @mth469
    @mth469 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For diabetics, almond flour.
    Bake almond flour bread and make almond flour cookies and brownies (with sugar substitute aka sweetener).
    You may need to use sugar for the yeast to multiply and the dough to rise however. Not sure if baking soda can substitute for that(?). Need to experiment as I'm new to baking my own bread.
    Downside is that almond flour is expensive. Why is the good stuff always expensive?
    Maybe mix the almond flour with some other lower cost flour with an equally low glycemic index? But which one..

  • @LiloEmyoung
    @LiloEmyoung 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mix both together when baking, in a ratio of 1:2 (1 for coconut flour 2 for almond)

    • @domingaalmain-ocden4932
      @domingaalmain-ocden4932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you have a bread recipe using your mix. Mine comes out so dry. Thanks

  • @Minney-Me
    @Minney-Me 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I get this burning sensation whenever I eat almond flour 🥞... Never w/ coconut flour. I believe it's because of the oxalates. Coconut flour to me is easier to work with once you understand how little you need to use in your recipes 😋

    • @cailey_gene
      @cailey_gene ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oxalates , exactly !!! It inflames me

    • @lifewithmissa8985
      @lifewithmissa8985 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much do you use coconut flour everyday?

  • @pbhello
    @pbhello 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The major flaw in the comparison is that the flours are not used in equal portions in recipes. Much less coconut flour is used in a given recipe than would be used of almond flour. So in actual use, the carb and sugar counts will be very similar.

  • @m.a.d4146
    @m.a.d4146 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    100g coconut flour in Germany:
    337 kcal
    Fat : 9,9g
    Carbohydrates: 22g
    Which from sugar: 21g
    Fiber: 38g
    Protein: 21g
    So basically 0 net carbs

  • @raghavbhatia235
    @raghavbhatia235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Make a video on chickpea flour (known as Besan in India) also
    It also has a low GI
    I'd love to know more about it.

    • @esn2130
      @esn2130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love chickpea flour too...I use it for everything, pizza, cookies, coating fish, bread...😋

    • @Arrasel
      @Arrasel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ye, me too.
      I use it a lot but it's not keto. I'm eating Paleo anyway.

    • @mchrysogelos7623
      @mchrysogelos7623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YES, I hope he continues with all the other flours. I have chickpea, cassava, rice, etc.

    • @Arrasel
      @Arrasel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think he's gonna mention that because the keto community doesn't eat them

    • @esn2130
      @esn2130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok, I didnt know he only does videos for Keto people. I dont follow any diet, I just try to eat healthy.I dont do Intermitent fasting either, I just eat if when I am hungry, but I watch his videos, found them interesting.

  • @Nonas_a_Blerd
    @Nonas_a_Blerd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can't compare coconut flour and almond flour cup-for-cup. One only uses 1/4 as much coconut flour bc it is so much more absorbent than almond flour. Also, one typically uses an additional egg when substituting coconut flour for almond flour. So, on balance, substituting coconut flour for almond flour is the much better choice.

  • @WordsbySamuel
    @WordsbySamuel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Almond flour spikes inflammation in my body mainly gallbladder and bile duct for some reason.

  • @carmieintegrativenutrition9591
    @carmieintegrativenutrition9591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need 1/4 of coconut flour per recipe to equal 1 cup or more of almond flour so at the end of the day we have to calculate the net carbs and the net fat of a recipe and not per cup of the flour.

  • @DsDoodles
    @DsDoodles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I prefer coconut flour..you can use a fourth of it compared to almond & it tastes more neutral 💖 everyone uses almond in every baking recipe but I like to swap it out. I don't dislike almond flour but it seems coconut it more versatile too.. plus too almond flour bothers my bf's tummy 🤔

  • @Godisone88
    @Godisone88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Coconut and Almond tortillas are delicious for all my vegetarians out there

  • @rawmilkmike
    @rawmilkmike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hay doc, you may have overlooked, a recipe may use 1/4 of the amount since coconut flour absorbs the liquid ingredients. They say to add some egg to the coconut flour. This would make the carb content the same. I feel like almonds are destroying the land out in California.

  • @statewidefilms
    @statewidefilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Almond flour is a little higher in omega 6 as well . if cooking look up macadamia nut butter recipes . Best omega 3 to 6 ratio best nut ..

  • @annamae859
    @annamae859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know where you are buying coconut flour or what brand, but mine contains 21.5g of carbs per 100g so maybe you want to shop around.
    Also is it fair to compare a cup of coconut flour to a cup of almond flour considering how much more almond flour is used in baking than coconut flour.
    1cup almond flour compared to 1/3 cup coconut flour would be a fair comparison.

  • @stoicgerbil3977
    @stoicgerbil3977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm allergic to nuts but anything coconut agrees with me so I always use coconut anything

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coconut flour is better for those that are hypothyroid.
      Cup for cup does not equate because you only use 1/4 or 1/3 cup of coconut vs 1 cup almond flour in a recipe.
      Comparing apples to oranges.
      Check out a new found "Janet's Delicious Low Carb Kitchen" youtube channel for great coconut flour recipes. She has terrific originals.

    • @mchrysogelos7623
      @mchrysogelos7623 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pattijesinoski1958 give it a rest!

  • @vandalmeida.30.09
    @vandalmeida.30.09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Bom dia Doc Berg, do Brasil 🇧🇷🌸.
    Good morning from Brazil, Doc Berg 🇧🇷🌸.

  • @Season4Reason1
    @Season4Reason1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was told absolutely no almonds or almond flour due to kidney stones. What would be a good replacement?

    • @LeileeBaker805
      @LeileeBaker805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Coconut maybe? i have heard from some gluten free vegans they prefer buck wheat flour. They use it in banana muffins.

  • @selambengp
    @selambengp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What about omega 6 level of almond (flour) ?

  • @benegesserit7357
    @benegesserit7357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My coconut flour has only 11g of carbs per 100g.. It's basicly coconut fibre, so net carbs are very low. it is very fluffy, so 1 cut are less than 100g. The brand's name is Amanprana, so there are BIG differences.

  • @kktmg
    @kktmg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From my experience using coconut flour vs almond flour. Price wise, coconut flour is about 50% the price of almond flour in Singapore. Recipes using coconut flour only uses 1/3 the amount versus almond flour due to the absorbency of the coconut flour. Hence, the carbs level pretty much level out, the total caloric value plummets. Hence, pay attention to how much coconut flour you use, and make a judgement call.

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Coconut flour is better for those that are hypothyroid.
      Cup for cup does not equate because you only use 1/4 or 1/3 cup of coconut vs 1 cup almond flour in a recipe.
      Comparing apples to oranges.
      Check out a new found "Janet's Delicious Low Carb Kitchen" youtube channel for great coconut flour recipes. She has terrific originals.

  • @br4975
    @br4975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Our coconut flour has 16g of carbs and 42g of fibre per 100g, so maybe they can vary quite a lot? Brand is Groovy Food Compant coconut flour, by the way

    • @eryyahj
      @eryyahj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use the same brand. Hey 🇬🇧👋

  • @theembodimentofunselfishne590
    @theembodimentofunselfishne590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr.berg please clarify.. someone said eating almonds and spinach causes oscillate in body.. is it true?????

  • @jeaninestaum3633
    @jeaninestaum3633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One uses less coconut flour than almond flour in a recipe

  • @katalinpuscas9722
    @katalinpuscas9722 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure why, after I eat almond flour I feel tired...what's the reason?? I love making bread, mugcakes out of it..I stopped eating it for a few days and my energy is back. It's really strange..Thank you Dr. Berg for everything you do!

  • @IamtheFREY
    @IamtheFREY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The coconut flour I get at Publix(greenwise organic) has dramatically different macros per cup: That 64 grams of carb is made up of 48(not 11) grams of fiber and 16(not 19) grams of sugar. 16(not 22) of fat and 16(not 32) of protein.

  • @vickycanayon2366
    @vickycanayon2366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My daughter is allergic to nuts can almond flour trigger her allergies?

  • @randomroses1494
    @randomroses1494 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But you only need to use half the amount of coconut flour. Plus it’s nearly always organic. I reduce the carbs still further by using psyllium husk and ground flax seeds for baking.

  • @Notinmind343
    @Notinmind343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks doctor you explained about coconut flour and almond flour I use almonds every morning

  • @littlebird3976
    @littlebird3976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    but almond flower has so many omega 6 ?

    • @kristabradleymusic
      @kristabradleymusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And way more oxalates…🙃

    • @garyhiland6013
      @garyhiland6013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Little Bird, thank you for raising that flag. The vast majority of coconut flour's fat is saturated, thus stable. The vast majority of almond flour's fat is unsaturated-both mono and poly. Powdering the nut exposes all those double bonds to oxygen thus making the product unsuitable to consume. That fact alone disqualifies almond flour no matter what other attributes it may have. Thanks again.

    • @jesuslove8282
      @jesuslove8282 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@garyhiland6013that you for your wisdom👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @waters129
    @waters129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For some reason, almond flour ruins my skin and gives me hyper-pigmentation. So I gave it up.

  • @D3K018
    @D3K018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Coconut flour is terrible! I bought a 3 pound bag because a friend recommended it to me for low carb diet, my first attempt to use it was in a broccoli cream soup but it was a terrible idea, it didn't thicken it at all, instead it mixed badly (almond flour or xanthan gum work 1000 times better), also 95% of keto recipes are with almond flour, plus it has tons of more benefits, now I'm stuck with a 3 lb bag of almond flour, lol...

    • @Carlostype
      @Carlostype 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dito, I just accidentally ordered 2kg of coconut flour 🤦🤦 meant to get almond!

  • @deborahnarendorf7106
    @deborahnarendorf7106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This did surprise me however coconut is so dense that much much less is used in a recipe. I have a problem with almonds due to joint problems. Yes I can really tell the difference when I eat almond flour. I definitely ache more. ☹️

  • @robyroby1902
    @robyroby1902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Italy organic coconut flour costs approximately 7€ par kg whilst almond flour minimum 20€......😏

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coconut flour is better for those that are hypothyroid.
      Cup for cup does not equate because you only use 1/4 or 1/3 cup of coconut vs 1 cup almond flour in a recipe.
      Comparing apples to oranges.
      Check out a new found "Janet's Delicious Low Carb Kitchen" youtube channel for great coconut flour recipes. She has terrific originals.

    • @robyroby1902
      @robyroby1902 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pattijesinoski1958 thanks a lot

  • @KL-sq3zh
    @KL-sq3zh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Whenever I eat stuff made with almond flour it feels like it gets stuck in my throat, yet I drink almond milk every day and it’s fine. Not sure if I have an almond allergy or not.
    I don’t have the same problem with coconut flour.

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coconut flour is better for those that are hypothyroid.
      Cup for cup does not equate because you only use 1/4 or 1/3 cup of coconut vs 1 cup almond flour in a recipe.
      Comparing apples to oranges.
      Check out a new found "Janet's Delicious Low Carb Kitchen" youtube channel for great coconut flour recipes. She has terrific originals.

  • @patsarmiento5986
    @patsarmiento5986 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you live in tropical countries like Philippines, coconut is so abundant, so it depends on the place you live, coconut flour is the winner if you want healthy at the same time cheap.

  • @usewisdom2
    @usewisdom2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much Dr. Berg, that was very useful. Blessings to you for your continued powerful work for humanity.

  • @Cloud_dyy
    @Cloud_dyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My skin became extremely oilly after I started to consume almond flour, and I got really bad ance and pimples on my face and back...then I have to quit almond flour. Maybe almond flour is good for most of people, but unluckily it is not for me.

  • @biancaol6968
    @biancaol6968 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Almonds are high in oxalates, if I'm correct.

  • @blackrainbow5143
    @blackrainbow5143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you from Tunisia

  • @MP-kc8sl
    @MP-kc8sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In my country, I get organic coconut flour for less than $2/kg while almond flour is around $14/kg. Almond flour is a luxury so I only get it once in a while.

    • @pattijesinoski1958
      @pattijesinoski1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Coconut flour is better for those that are hypothyroid.
      Cup for cup does not equate because you only use 1/4 or 1/3 cup of coconut vs 1 cup almond flour in a recipe.
      Comparing apples to oranges.
      Check out a new found "Janet's Delicious Low Carb Kitchen" youtube channel for great coconut flour recipes. She has terrific originals.

    • @MP-kc8sl
      @MP-kc8sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pattijesinoski1958
      Yup, I've already tried a bunch of her recipes and subscribed to her channel. I'm trying out peanut flour at the moment, see if it works as an almond flour substitute.

    • @MP-kc8sl
      @MP-kc8sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Verdadeiro
      Well, we are one of the biggest coconut producers in the world so coconut products are cheap.
      Berries are expensive though and are hard to find. We just moved house a few months ago which is sad because we used to have an avocado tree in the old house.

  • @monpederson
    @monpederson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In bread recipes, much less coconut flour is required vs. almond flour so it probably balances out in my opinion.

  • @ainashburn
    @ainashburn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am i the only one that can’t stand the taste of almond flour? i really want to like it, but its just not for my taste buds.

  • @Creating2413
    @Creating2413 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Almond flour - you can compare prices and do well. There was no way i was buying it in the store 2 pounds for 20.99 because i got it on amazon 4lbs for 16.49