Why Tina Turner Forgave Ike Turner

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  • @soundmojo
    @soundmojo  ปีที่แล้ว +10

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  • @eisvogel8099
    @eisvogel8099 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    She is a beautiful, wise soul. Don't give anyone free rent space in your heart or mind. Rest in peace, Anna Mae Bullock

  • @buchananjeneen3739
    @buchananjeneen3739 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    "It's better to forgive in your mind & heart than to suffer in your soul."
    -Jeneen N Buchanan 😇

  • @lotusinn3
    @lotusinn3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Rest in peace, Tina!

  • @nickyjones2709
    @nickyjones2709 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I can totally understand her. I was exactly the same after my violent/sick partner, the father of my daughter died.

    • @soundmojo
      @soundmojo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Nicky Jones ♥♥

    • @marymotherofgod4861
      @marymotherofgod4861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same !!!

    • @sylviejacquemot6890
      @sylviejacquemot6890 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LE passé est passé .

    • @skepchica
      @skepchica ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Holding on to anger is like holding hot coals in your hand, it only hurts you. You don't forgive people to do them a favor (and it certainly doesn't mean allow them back into your life) you forgive to let go and move on. From a Buddhist perspective a wrongdoing is a debt that either you owe to someone or someone owes to you-- until you write off ("forgive") that debt-- you stay tied to that person. Forgiveness cuts the tie.

    • @lynettewatson2300
      @lynettewatson2300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here yes forgiveness I had to decided to do it to have the Peace I needed❤❤❤

  • @lotusBlosom
    @lotusBlosom ปีที่แล้ว +35

    To forgive is divine rest in peace QUEEN

  • @francinnadavis8614
    @francinnadavis8614 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I understand Tina. RIP ❤

  • @wisemansifiso3382
    @wisemansifiso3382 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Tina was a forgiver also.
    Rest in peace Tina.
    ❤❤❤

  • @katrellasherman5684
    @katrellasherman5684 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Forgiving Breaks All Chains off you and wraps you in Multiple Blessings

  • @carolyndarling1281
    @carolyndarling1281 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Sometimes you have to go through the storm to get to where you are.

  • @carmelitasantos5271
    @carmelitasantos5271 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You'll always will be in our hearts.

  • @Giselle_Glam594
    @Giselle_Glam594 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Rest in beautiful peaceful power 2 the 1 and only queen TINA TURNER 🕊 🕊

  • @loisewatson384
    @loisewatson384 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    SO BRAVE!! TINA❤ THANK YOU FOR HELPING WOMAN WHO CANT FOR GIVE ABUSIVE HUSBANDS!! SO THEY CAN MOVE ON YOU REALLY ARE THE BEST TINA 😢😢❤😢 LOVE YOU FOREVER❤❤❤

  • @stephanie3506
    @stephanie3506 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Tina was sick and broken as well when she was with Ike. They were dysfunctional and toxic together. She needed to be healed from her childhood trauma. She eventually got the strength to leave Ike and the healing began, but it took her a long time to forgive him for not loving her the way she loved him, but eventually, she did.

    • @joshuamurphy944
      @joshuamurphy944 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She became stronger and more free and at peace with her self rest well Tina

    • @mactherealestateman
      @mactherealestateman ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This is about the most real comment on here! Tina was broken b4 she got with Ike. And she was no angel while they were together. Tell the truth!

    • @stephanie3506
      @stephanie3506 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mactherealestateman People want to act like Tina was without fault or blemish, but that simply is not true; that's why she was able to stay with him for so long. She was an active participant in their toxic dysfunction. See, what she was doing at that time in her life was what many people do, it's a response to trauma. She was trying to get a person who was incapable of loving her to love her in a way that he could not (because of his own trauma). Tina's mother abandoned her, and then her father abandoned her. That right there was the source of her pain, she was searching for a kind of unconditional love and acceptance that she didn't get from her parents. But she sought it from a person that she subconsciously knew couldn't give it to her.

    • @skepchica
      @skepchica ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@stephanie3506She sought in a person that was a parental figure. Most of the time someone who tells you what to do is often abusive because they want to tell you what to do in the first place. Ike had his own childhood pain and sharing these stories was their first trauma bond, the next would come from the cycle of abuse-- and now you establish the pattern.
      Men love your daughters.
      Ike was a very sad, troubled man that probably never understood himself. He was extremely tortured until the day he died-- which is still very sad, because he was a person. The drugs and being bipolar I'm sure made that worse. It's crazy how much your childhood affects you long into your adult life.

    • @stephanie3506
      @stephanie3506 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skepchica yessssss YOU GET IT! ❣️💖💖💯

  • @carol-us4xn
    @carol-us4xn ปีที่แล้ว +10

    She had to have left the situation before she was able to feel differently about it. It's impossible to see it while she was in it. She forgave him after he died.

    • @joshuamurphy944
      @joshuamurphy944 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When you think about ike he was so dark and that man truly was fighting himself from within.. although he had a very rough childhood and was raped at a young age.. he was crying for help and didn't know how to love and care for anyone he even beat the hell outta his own son that how much of a dark place he was in and when he died he was able to confess that in the book thus freeing himself from that dark person he was when he was living Tina tried to change but he was already far gone by the time when she finally left him

  • @eileenwatt8283
    @eileenwatt8283 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Hating someone can cause illness to the victim.

  • @TB-de6oi
    @TB-de6oi ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Good lesson in forgiveness

  • @claudiaarmah2389
    @claudiaarmah2389 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Forgiveness is a beautiful quality that is hard to achieve. It is necessary for your peace of mind.
    R.I.L (Rest in Love)

  • @mactherealestateman
    @mactherealestateman ปีที่แล้ว +7

    But to do so after they're gone...do it while they're still here. My parents got it right, and 4 months later my mama died. 3 yeara later, me and dad got it right, 4 days later he died. Get it right b4 its too late.

  • @rustyrules4264
    @rustyrules4264 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Beautiful,kind soul💕

  • @chazbchaz5036
    @chazbchaz5036 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She ain’t lied, not forgiving hurts u . That’s 💯 and something u have to learn

  • @davonnacole9677
    @davonnacole9677 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    He saw her star power and couldn’t handle it

    • @wms5253
      @wms5253 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes and he needed her financially

  • @rubismic9925
    @rubismic9925 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Rip Queen!

  • @tjaystupidpaid
    @tjaystupidpaid ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m really tired of all these comments paying homage to Ike…saying that the abuse never happened…he admitted to hitting her in multiple interviews…tf

    • @LadyDetroit
      @LadyDetroit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes he did

  • @sheilameyers152
    @sheilameyers152 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tina was a wonderful women and didn’t deserve the abuse that she sustained! Rest in Peace Tina!

  • @DonnaJones-qz5db
    @DonnaJones-qz5db ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Moved On and found LOVE in Erwin Bach ❤️🥰✅👍😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘💯

  • @ireneanderson859
    @ireneanderson859 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Forgiving is not letting the bad person off the hook but rather helping the victim to heal. Tina was a very strong woman and has done well. Her words here is right on.

  • @s1w585
    @s1w585 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hollywood destroyed this man’s reputation with things he did not do. That’s the problem!!!!

    • @deanrane1961
      @deanrane1961 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. They exploited him AND her for $$$

  • @lakeshajohnson5997
    @lakeshajohnson5997 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh that's sad not excuses for him he had bad behavior in the relationship how did she survive all those beatings and remain beautiful and powerful it's sad that they both gone Buddhism help her.

  • @tinaarcher5027
    @tinaarcher5027 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unforgiving brings sickness and death in our lives, if we don’t Forgive people what they have done to us…Shalom!!!

  • @saskiaboudreaux1694
    @saskiaboudreaux1694 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wondering how Erwin Bach is doing! He must feel so lonely with out his Tina RIP.

  • @staraeddy5330
    @staraeddy5330 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Forgiveness is motivation for you to press and move on from the person that wronged you because you're are worth more than that person. Stay blessed and focused on a better you for the ones that really love and need you🙏🏾

  • @pearluniquegiftbags
    @pearluniquegiftbags ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tina!! ♥️♥️♥️ you are 1 of my 1st memories, a look up to love! Thank you!! You are still teaching me to this day! You may have got the golden ticket to the next, but will always be an amazing positive to me forever here n’ after ♥️ thank you!!! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @ritaranee4787
    @ritaranee4787 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes..... Buddhism rocks

  • @inspiredbynatureinspiredby5586
    @inspiredbynatureinspiredby5586 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    WISDOM❤

  • @sylviejacquemot6890
    @sylviejacquemot6890 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ❤❤❤Paix à ton Âme Tina, le passé est passé ❤️🌹

  • @deborahklinlger8565
    @deborahklinlger8565 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it's called dysfunction, usually caused by addiction of some kind.

  • @samrindge8042
    @samrindge8042 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tina contradicted herself through the years. She said she forgave Ike decades ago now she admitted that she hated him. In her first book and in older interviews she said she loved him then recently she acted like she did not. She clearly never got over him which explains why she was resentful and always dwelled on their relationship.

    • @kisha4040
      @kisha4040 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dont forget Tina talked about how good Ike was in bed and she enjoyed being with him intimately but then said she felt like he was sa her.

    • @martell203
      @martell203 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s because she was lying on him the whole time. When someone lies, the story changes slightly each time the tell it.

  • @pjones6749
    @pjones6749 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Some perspective. According to Judge Joe Brown, the movie made Ike out to be the abuser and that was not the whole story. They left out anything to put Tina in a negative light, including that she beat up on him and had a kid with one of Ike's band mates. Everyone who knew them said that he wasn't nearly as bad as that movie made him out to be. Tina herself said that the movie did Ike dirty. It's a shame no one knows this.

  • @RickMichaels-if5eq
    @RickMichaels-if5eq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Tina didn’t forgive him, Ike would’ve still had power over her even after his death. Excellent virtue!✊🏽

  • @turbonerd6552
    @turbonerd6552 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Tina was the most strong person. ❤❤❤

  • @DevonnyDX
    @DevonnyDX ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He wrote a majority of her hits

  • @gloriagrier3376
    @gloriagrier3376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rip ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @Its_Star_Brite
    @Its_Star_Brite 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank yoouuu
    Nobody wants to be living to die now
    Rip to both of them god sent them back home and they are in peace ❤🙏🏽

  • @martell203
    @martell203 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She was a liar. It’s really sad that people never even questioned her stories about Ike.

  • @touchpoint4christministries444
    @touchpoint4christministries444 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Truth ❤❤❤Much Love TINA rest in Heaven 🙏🏾💐😘

  • @dominiquejones3805
    @dominiquejones3805 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    She was no angel

    • @LadyDetroit
      @LadyDetroit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      GOD didn’t make no one an angel 😇 or perfect…. Ike put his own business out for everyone to know doing drugs going to jail hitting on women’s very controlling and gets drunk…. Tina smarter than that she’s a private person she doesn’t bring all her business to the public eye

  • @ShannonHinkle-k2r
    @ShannonHinkle-k2r ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Erwin was an amazing husband to Tina Turner

  • @ninafrench558
    @ninafrench558 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can relate to this!!!! Love her.💗💗💗💗

  • @peachyclean93
    @peachyclean93 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So so right! What a wise beautiful talented woman You will be missed❤

  • @skepchica
    @skepchica ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's suprising a practicing Buddhist this would be a struggle this so late in life. Not saying she doesn't have reason to-- but one of the more basic tenants is looking at a wrongdoing as a debt. Therefore she would know until she writes off his debt, he would continue to have a tie to her. The art of forgiveness isn't for others, it's for yourself. There's something very sad about her tying herself to a past she outwardly was trying to hide from.

  • @PisceanDreams-je6vo
    @PisceanDreams-je6vo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im glad she made it out and out lived him.
    He beat that women down!
    Ladies you can get owm of a terrifying relationship.... people can get you out for good and make the abuser stop amd go away!

    • @kisha4040
      @kisha4040 ปีที่แล้ว

      @PisceanDreams-je6vo Tina was also abusive.

  • @bonnieoles4212
    @bonnieoles4212 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He was sick cuz he had an evil entity attached to him.

    • @rozchristopherson648
      @rozchristopherson648 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He was raped at 12 by a woman he agreed to help do chores on her property. Ike himself said that is how he became promiscuous from a young age. An evil spirit attached to that woman attached to Ike when he was raped.

  • @njoyarosengreen1196
    @njoyarosengreen1196 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You hate your choice.Instead of leaving.Seems legit.

  • @monalisainperson7141
    @monalisainperson7141 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is (still) plenty of those sick ppl.
    It should be known, transparent in society and young (especially women) should get information about it.
    These ppl should be also on longterm therapies etc.

  • @oRealAlieNo
    @oRealAlieNo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Id blackened her eye too

  • @mariarod6998
    @mariarod6998 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tina was not a saint the way some of u want to portray her

    • @Cinnamon84582
      @Cinnamon84582 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I heard that as well 🤔

    • @seanjackson6300
      @seanjackson6300 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What did she do and what is the source of your information?

    • @mariarod6998
      @mariarod6998 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seanjackson6300 judge joe brown

    • @LadyDetroit
      @LadyDetroit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tina might not be a saint but she knows how much she wants the public eye to know about her

    • @LadyDetroit
      @LadyDetroit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mariarod6998judge Joe brown is a alcoholic that’s why he didn’t keep his show for to long of course he going to side with Ike Ike probably paid him.. just like Ike paid Tina mother to turn Tina over to him

  • @gloriagrier3376
    @gloriagrier3376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rip🎻🪕🎸🎺🪘🎻🪕🎸🎺🪘🎻🪕🎸🎺🪘🎻🪕🎸🎺🪘🎻🪕🎸🎺🪘🎻🪕🎸🎺🪘🎻🪕🎸🎺🎻🎷🎷🎷🎷🎷🎷🎷🎷🎷

  • @racinejames4454
    @racinejames4454 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had no idea she passed away 😮😢

  • @tarahill308
    @tarahill308 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sick people can be great in other areas n Thts scary 😱

  • @jesuslopez4113
    @jesuslopez4113 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    People always judge the man for his mistakes but forget that she took him from a marriage and he gave her a career. There's always 2 sides of the story. They were both great, drugs and alcohol is what damaged ike.

  • @demarcushoward4294
    @demarcushoward4294 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes Tina! Forgiveness is the key, to healing from brokenness and bitterness. Glad she forgave him and hopefully he repented from all that wickedness he put her through.

  • @marianbrown5247
    @marianbrown5247 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope she was saved.

  • @gloriagrier3376
    @gloriagrier3376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rip 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @djwalkerfemaledj
    @djwalkerfemaledj ปีที่แล้ว +11

    RIP Tina Turner🙏🏾

  • @blessedbeyondmeasures7532
    @blessedbeyondmeasures7532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love you

  • @JoelStim-lj1hg
    @JoelStim-lj1hg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I, always liked her& she. Forgave.
    This, White DUDE will always
    Miss her.
    RIP

  • @malcolmmarcelle4148
    @malcolmmarcelle4148 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    IKe should have told his side of the story first .
    Most of what was in the fill we now know was just fir entertainment.
    It’s she that was using IKe to build her career .
    She was just as abusive as him though mentally .

    • @seanjackson6300
      @seanjackson6300 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What’s the source of this information? If it was lies, why didn’t Ike sue the film company? Did everyone lie who was involved and testified to the awful things he did it her?

    • @LadyDetroit
      @LadyDetroit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seanjackson6300 FACTS

  • @b.whisky9438
    @b.whisky9438 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From what I heard, it was Tina who was the problem. She was actually the abuser not Ike. Ike was a mentor to inner city children. Telling the children to stay in school, respect your parents and stay out of trouble. I heard Tina was physically abusive. Hitting Ike Turner. Tina is was supposedly really evil.

  • @navinsandhu-dv3jl
    @navinsandhu-dv3jl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How to forgive
    My abusive n stubborn husband died
    I lost millions
    Might lose my home too
    ALL blame me
    How to not b angry

    • @skepchica
      @skepchica ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You forgive for you, not him. Forgiveness releases you from the ties you have to him. Your judgement and your next move will be clouded until you can. Cut the tie, for YOU. ❤

  • @JonathanHernandez-mm3nd
    @JonathanHernandez-mm3nd ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rest In Peace Tina Turner.

  • @romilaagard7621
    @romilaagard7621 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ummmm😮😮😮
    Wao wao interesting the information😶😐🤨

  • @marissa0379
    @marissa0379 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amen. Death happens and we realize stuff after. 💯 been there and it’s super sad and traumatic to realize afterwards.

  • @DawnSmith-x9f
    @DawnSmith-x9f 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We have to forgive🙏🏿

  • @gloriagrier3376
    @gloriagrier3376 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rip 💄👠💄👠💄👠💄👠💄👠💄👠💄👠💄👠💄👠💄👠💄👠💄👠💄👠

  • @savagesuguru9658
    @savagesuguru9658 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    RIP TINA 🕊️💕

  • @vanthdreadstar8788
    @vanthdreadstar8788 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would like to know Ike’s side of the story.

    • @samrindge8042
      @samrindge8042 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He has a book titled Takin' Back My Name. It's very interesting.

    • @mariajiron6789
      @mariajiron6789 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      En una entrevista de años atrás, el dice que la abofeteó porque la vio triste 😢...

    • @kisha4040
      @kisha4040 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mariajiron6789There's more to his story than that

  • @sylviatarnowskilizewski4870
    @sylviatarnowskilizewski4870 ปีที่แล้ว

    HELLO. she has HEALTY PRESPECTIVE INTO THEIR PAST ??? SHE SAID THAT??

  • @Mabel-BM
    @Mabel-BM ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A sick, horrible, cruel human😤😤

  • @rhulesuperior40
    @rhulesuperior40 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She exaggerated parts of her story. They both faught each other and partied together

  • @denicebrookssings
    @denicebrookssings หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this a new documentary?

  • @yolandajohnson8685
    @yolandajohnson8685 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    she forgave him because she loved him.

  • @christopherfreeburn3237
    @christopherfreeburn3237 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tina Turner was smart she realized forgiveness is the key of Life and that's when you free.

  • @josevenancio5008
    @josevenancio5008 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It took his death for her to forgive him lol was just as sick

  • @sjtalksandlife
    @sjtalksandlife 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes Miss Tina is so right..🥰

  • @BlackAdder1970
    @BlackAdder1970 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Buddhism? Tins say it isn't so.

  • @sheena.r.marizettesheena5862
    @sheena.r.marizettesheena5862 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sheena. l. Want. You. Too
    Love. You. Too. Friends
    Have. Soon. get. They
    Music. ❤😮😊❤😮😊❤

  • @GINGERALEBUBBLES
    @GINGERALEBUBBLES 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know she suffered for lying on Ike

  • @ShannonHinkle-k2r
    @ShannonHinkle-k2r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She was a very smart and strong woman.

  • @aqeel25
    @aqeel25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s what I feel about my ex husband i hate him and I haven’t got to the forgiveness yet but I’m trying

  • @TonyRomearound
    @TonyRomearound ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with Tina

  • @Versatiletaurusmusic
    @Versatiletaurusmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rest in heavenly peace ❤ Tina Turner❤

  • @Bonny-m9r
    @Bonny-m9r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I must agree, he was quite ill🤔🙄🙃

  • @desertrose128
    @desertrose128 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buddhism...❤you Tina

  • @SouthernMiss850
    @SouthernMiss850 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope she found Jesus Christ.

  • @kishawolson7679
    @kishawolson7679 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cause hes a scorpio energy......scorpios and pluto energy are very dark

    • @kisha4040
      @kisha4040 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every Scorpio is not like Ike Turner. You astrology loonies are ridiculous.

  • @kt7901
    @kt7901 ปีที่แล้ว

    He got crazy eyes

  • @gloriagrier3376
    @gloriagrier3376 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rip 💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃

  • @terrelmchenry9524
    @terrelmchenry9524 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I REALLY LIKED TINA...SOMETIME B4 85 SHE WAS ON WELFARE...I AM THE WAY AND THE LIFE,,,NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER LEST BY ME...SAID JESUS...

  • @teresaconde8789
    @teresaconde8789 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amen