Laurence Fishburne Reveals Why He Initially Turned Down 'What's Love Got to Do With It'
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ย. 2022
- Laurence Fishburne reflects on his acting career and discloses why he turned down 'What’s Love Got To Do With It' before saying yes.
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When I hear him talk he sounds like he should be sitting on a throne. He just sounds so distinguished and elegant.
Only if you knew
@judithdunn6291 the truth is spreading fast apttmh
You think that's air your breathing?? Lol
@@jfitnesshealth I only thought was POLLUTION ! I AM JUST BIG JUDE KEEPIN WHAT'S LEFT REAL AND THAT'S 💯! JKIRAT100! 😎😇🧐🐋!
@@DeadPiixxel what is the truth about him
Just to hear him acknowledge that he was physically abusive with his first wife without provocation or being forced makes me have so much respect for him🙏🏾👏🏾
Right. I have so much more respect for him
There is always some provocation, and two sides to every story. He obvioulsy is playing the Martyr
Yeah… I knew he played that role a little TOO well! Lol I had to sorry y’all don’t hate me 😅
@@thenubianspeaks4329 No he's admitted his mistakes and misdeeds
@Pinkranger87 Exactly!! We all make mistakes and bad decisions in life, but once we hold ourselves accountable for our own actions, there's no shame or embarrassment behind what we should say and think, cause we're telling our truth.
Man... it is these sorts of interviews that allow you to see the layers of a wise person. The poise, assurance, thoughtfulness, and authenticity in his answers is eye opening. Love it.
I completely agree. I have an entirely new & elevated view of Laurence after watching this.
Yes, I agree as well. I have always loved him and this interview solidified that love and appreciation for him, his craft, his growth and wisdom. 🦋
Agreed
Although with 30 years of publicists and conditioning it’s hard to call any actor authentic, they’re narcissists by default and always extremely charming, he is as close as it gets
@@Theonethatdid shut up
Much respect for Laurence being accountable for his past and seeking help. Most wouldn't tell that part, but I'm glad he let us in.
Most would tell that part if the perfect people around them weren't so judgemental.
@@venusspacey9685 🎯 That!!
I was thinking the same thing!
I agree. As a woman, it really touched my heart to hear him be so honest, remorseful, and committed to change.
Word! He is solid and doesn't need to be coddled to be accountable. It's REAL when it doesn't matter if you'll be judged or not. Salute to him!
He killed it as Ike. He played the cerebral, manipulative role so well and had great chemistry with Angela Bassett who also did an excellent job.
to keep it even more 💯💯 Lawrence Fishburne bodied every role he ever played from Cornbread Earl to Apocolypse Now to Furious Styles to Dap from School Daze and even the orderly in the Elm Street Dream Warriors flick. He's one of the best to ever do it...
@@koguma.newyork1also he was good in Boys n the Hood too
Best part is him and Angela Bassett are good friends in real life, and he always supported her
They had chemistry on Boyz n the hood too
@grinchoi1
I strongly agree with you!!
Laurence Fishburne is a class act. Great call turning down PULP FICTION and accepting WHAT'S LOVE GOT TO DO WITH IT.
Haha why am I feeling like this is sarcasm
@@mjohns8584 it was a great call. Got him an Oscar nomination #NoScrubs 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
Tarantino’s dead Nigga in his back seat rant was what he didn’t like
@@zellking4047 idk why any black person would act in any of his movies.
@@TT-xz5sy You gotta admit though, Django was a home run
That's mad respect to him to admit of his past being abusive in his past says alot. Much much respect
When I heard he would play Ike I questioned why he was playing that role. I said he doesn't even look like Ike. He made me realize a true talent embodies the character. Now I can't see anyone else in that role. He deserved an Oscar. Good interview.
Full cap.
@@OneLoveRSR nope it's all true
I literally forgot I was watching Laurence Fishburne when he was playing Ike.
Aw dam u don't have to look like the person to play them
It’s at the point where people say Ike Turner and Lawrence’s face or meme will pop up in your head lol
Very Brave of this King to admit his PAST flaws.
I love him even more now.
I love that he was protective and supportive of Angela and that he was able to seek and get help with his own anger and abuse issues ❤️
True. leo Class?Act
See that’s the honesty and humbleness that shows that someone has grown, matured and done the self repair necessary to move on in life, Laurence Fishbourne gets my respect
Exactly
Much respect to this man he was able to admit he had a problem and than went to get appropriate help for it 🥰
Exactly
Mr. Fishburne does not seem to grant many interviews but I am certainly glad he granted this one. Really great interview. I love the questions. It offered info not normally available to the public.
I can't tell you how heartfelt and sincere I am when I say I'm glad to have had a positive acquaintance with all of you🌹💗
Laurence Fishburne has always given me an intellectual vibe. He is so well spoken and articulates his answers to questions with much thought and grace. He played Ike Turner and Angela Bassett portrayed Tina top tier! That movie should have awarded them both Oscars!
I can't tell you how heartfelt and sincere I am when I say I'm glad to have had a positive acquaintance with all of you🌹💗
It certainly should have awarded them Acasemy awards.
I have loved Sir Laurence since Cornbread, Earl and Me 👏🏽
Yes I remember Cornbread Earl and Me!
me too
@@syllocs He was brilliant in Deep Cover & King of New York with Christopher Walken
@@angelsimmons5384 Loved Deep Cover..but I did NOT Like his roll in KING of New York at ALLLL🙅🙅🙅🙅🙅
I don’t even think actors get enough credit , for who they portray in these amazing roles. Mr. Fishburne , has brought some amazing men to life! Idk about anyone else but I wanted a dad like furious styles. Thank you legend for what you’ve brought to our people. Side note lol - I wonder what he thinks about the memes he became from his role as Ike 😂
Give me the motherfucking gun trey😳
👀👀👀👀Staring in Ike🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes ! I wanted him as a dad too 💯
I love that he was asked the question of what changes did he make to something we would recognize. He didn’t want the audience to see any physical connection during fight scenes. Great great great.
In the diner..didn't he slap the friend too? They showed that?
thank you for your genuine love and support 💖 towards my movie I really appreciate your loyalty and love,❣️💝 where are you from?
@@milosmitic2071 yeah an he first hit Tina at the house too but I guess it was a turn cause you didn’t get a clear view of the connects.
My favorite Laurence Fishburne role is Professor Phipps in Higher Learning. As a teacher, that particular role resonated with me, as I have that same passion when it comes to working with (and caring for) my students. Also, Laurence Fishburne completely embodied that role, which is one of the reasons Higher Learning is my favorite movie 🎬.
I also loved his role in the movie Biker Boys! I think he did an awesome job in boys in the hood, hoodlum, color purple, deep cover etc… I love all his movies!
Yes Professor Phillips and Furious Styles
Yes omg!!! He saw everything around him going on but remained humble and understanding
He definitely did an amazing job in Higher Learning. I LOVE that movie!
“Peppermint?”
I maintain that him as Ike is one of the best portrayals in any biopic.
I applaud him for taking great care of how they presented those scenes on screen, years later after his own experiences with his first marriage. He's 100% correct. The film did not need overt violence to tell the story. It presented itself, because of that care, well enough. Kudos to him.
I can't tell you how heartfelt and sincere I am when I say I'm glad to have had a positive acquaintance with all of you🌹💗
I can't tell you how heartfelt and sincere I am when I say I'm glad to have had a positive acquaintance with all of you❤
@Jolene8 I don't necessarily agree with him that the film didn't need overt violence because that's exactly what Tina's experience was, it was extremely violent and volatile but I understand why he wanted none of it, as someone who was once an abuser himself, it must have been triggering so I think it was much more about protecting himself than anybody else.
I love that he set those boundaries while filming what’s love for to do with it to protect his and Angela’s mental state but also use it as a tool to pull the audience in. Specifically the scene where Tina and the background singers are having a pool party and he drags her in the house and beats her, we don’t see it but we have to use our imagination. When I watch the scene I feel like one of the singers outside by the pool watching/hearing what’s happening and feeling absolutely helpless. That’s great acting/directing on his part!
I can't tell you how heartfelt and sincere I am when I say I'm glad to have had a positive acquaintance with all of you🌹💗
Laurence Fishburne seems well-calibrated. He had to be and it is good to learn he sought help when he needed it. He went from child actor to adult and his longevity is remarkable. This was eye-opening for me. I knew he had depth, but he's also serene.
I can't tell you how heartfelt and sincere I am when I say I'm glad to have had a positive acquaintance with all of you🌹💗
Thank you Jamele. You are a great interviewer and this interview was an unexpected treat. Laurence Fishburne is just the best .His depth as an actor in my opinion is unmatched …Also Laurence allowing us to know something so personal as him having participated in domestic violence and how he evolved from that time is a blessing to all who received it. Thanks again Jamele. PLEASE GIVE US MORE GREAT INTERVIEWS LIKE THIS.
Awesome my Sister.. Keep up the Good work
He did a great job playing Ike. The subtleties of trying to be a caring guy and treating his wife like crap was well acted.
where was caring? I never saw that. not even a hint.
@@jusletursoulglobaby he said trying. Not actual caring. It's the misguided mind of most abusers. I got a mother who was the same way. She was a misguided abusive toxic person. But in her mind she thought she was caring.
@@anthonygraham8122 where do you think you saw trying?
@@jusletursoulglobaby its in the OPs comment
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He would have had to figured out what's 'good' about him in order to play him, otherwise, his performance would just look like a one dimensional caricature.
No real actor plays a villain and says to themself "I'm just a villain".
It takes a strong and sensitive individual to be able to admit to his faults in his first marriage with such honesty. Being able to be that honest with yourself is probably what helped him form into the amazing gentleman he is today.
What he said about turning down the rule for pulp fiction was a beautiful thing. To be able to have that type of impact on someone’s life while still being successful in yours must be a good feeling. Kudos to Lawrence for saying that because that answer was a well respected. Beautiful way of answering the question. Thanks.
Seen this video at 6am. This movie made me scared of Lawrence for very long time because my mom was a domestic violence victim and my dad acted just like Ike. This interview has shed so much perspective 👏🏾 on how and why he chose the role (he played it to a T). This was an excellent interview
And I know what he means. A woman can drive you so mad, that you are helpless. This does not excuse violence, it may explain how it sometimes comes.
But in the case of Ike Turner? He has a history of being violent with other women, too. I am not sure how much the above can serve as an explanation.
@@krollpeter Keep in mind Tina was also violent with Ike
Someone will get free/get counseling because of his transparency. God bless him!
@@kisha4040because she had to.
@kisha4040 Tina was never violent, there's no account of it anywhere but I don't expect a troll like you to understand that. Even if Tina had a violent personality she would have been intelligent enough not to fight a volatile, narcissistic drug addicted individual like Ike, I mean who in their right mind would wanna do that, especially a woman unless they were suicidal?
Such a distinguished gentlemen. What great transparency. He's so much more than a great actor.......he's a man with integrity.
I can't tell you how heartfelt and sincere I am when I say I'm glad to have had a positive acquaintance with all of you🌹💗
That got me emotional at the end 😮💨. That was legendary gold. Shout out to Laurence Fishburne for being so assertive in protecting the script and above all, his acting partner 🥲. I was 8 years old when that movie came out and lemme tell you, I didn’t know how impactful those abuse scenes were on my little eyes and brain. There’s a reason for parental advisories. It was hard to watch with even the obstructions he spoke of! To know that there was a possibility for it to be shot even more explicitly is not something I can fathom. Man. Him and Angela Basset some goats 🙏🏾 The best part of my childhood in film.
Wow!! I never knew that about him, personally. However terribly horrifying it is to hear that he’s been abusive, it’s inspiring to know that people CAN CHANGE; just as long as they continue to “do the work.”
It’s called, “Self awareness”.
what do tell more???
Wow, it’s as though he’s HUMAN.
@@baderinwa1Yes, he held himself ACCOUNTABLE to reach a CHANGE! I love it!
I don't know why he would admit to being abusive, and past relationships..
They'll spin that, and use that against him.
When the time is right. Meanwhile white actors like Sean Penn go unscathed, after they beat their spouses.
I LOVE Laurence Fishburne. One of our greatest living actors. Period.
this is a real MAN. He respect hisself and women.
Angela Bassett Should've Won A Oscar For Her Portrayal Of Tina Turner. She Played That Role.
I can totally understand why he turned down Pulp Fiction. There's a portion in that film that made me utterly cringe. And I believe that's one of the reasons why he turned it down. However, I don't see anybody else playing Ike in What's Love Got to Do With It. Nobody else would have worked in my opinion. Overall he's a legend and deserves his flowers!
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Huge fan of Mr Fishburne. Great interview
I fell in love with him in boys n the hood ,
I've watched the movie many times. But, I never owned the movie "What's Love Got To Do With It". The acting from Angela and Laurence was powerful. I read Tina's book. Ike although a genius. He was mentally ill. That's what it is. He was an abuser. But, I like that Laurence was transparent about his own emotional landscape. Because, he played the character brilliant. I'm glad he cared enough to tell the crew members and Director. What he didn't want. In respect to IKE and Tina. Regardless of how we may feel. The man help to cultivate her as a talent. We know of her because of the man. So I give him that, plus his indelible contribution to the creative arts. Rocket 88 is considered the first Rock and Roll single. Angela captured the strength of the Queen Tina. Great film. Great Life. Happy Birthday Tina, she recently turned 83yrs young.
He's actually an amazing orator! Wow, I clicked on this just to hear why he turned Ike down but was unable to click out of it. His humility, honesty, and connection with Jemele is awesome! This isn't something he HAS to do, he wants to be there.
I appreciate the honesty, ownership and consideration.
I really appreciate this interview. It revealed alot. Excellent!!!
I love that he took the role to protect Angela and that he was honest about his abusive past. He seems healed bc he did the work. God bless him.
Love the accountability ❤️🙏🏾
Laurence was amazing in Deep Cover. That is a movie that need to be talked about.
Totally
I love that damn movie.
Indeed great movie
I love Jemele's energy. I think I'd like being interviewed by her. She gets into the craft and the professional vs trying to dredge up dirt or gossip. ❤
You can tell that he felt as if he were in a protected space to be able to dive into these conversations without judgment. Jemele Hill has always had an amazing skill and I’m so glad that she isn’t limited by certain networks anymore.
I love Laurence Fishburne. Such a cool guy. Great roles throughout his career. Strong, intelligent, father-figure type roles to look up to.
I love this man!!!
I ran into him at my workplace - United Nations Children's Fund in New York City many years ago. I greeted and welcomed him to the Organization as he waited for the elevator in the lobby. He was very serious - but nice. A real gentleman. Excellent interview!!!
I can't tell you how heartfelt and sincere I am when I say I'm glad to have had a positive acquaintance with all of you❤
Bravo to the interviewer for being so incredibly professional and respectful during this interview. I have mad love for this Legendary Actor for his great body of work.
Fishburne, Lindo, Washington, L Jackson… their interviews are better than some people’s films💯💯💯
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Ms. Hill’s follow up questions were the best!👌🏾
Somebody reminded me he was in peewee Herman as the cowboy
Jemele, you are a fantastic interviewer. Also, I can really respect how Lawrence thinks through things and has a reason for his decisions. Much respect to him for being accountable for his mistakes for having worked to be better.
thank you for your genuine love and support 💖 towards my movie I really appreciate your loyalty and love,❣️💝 where are you from?
The way Jamele navigated this interview is masterful. Great interview🙏🏽
I believe that Sam L could've been in What's Love & Lawrence could've been in Pulp. They both are extremely talented. I loved Lawrence in Bumpy.
YESSSS In the Cotton Club(1984)&&&& HOODLUM(1997)
@@rissaceehart4076 Ikr. He was 🔥.
In my opinion, this interview does a great job of differentiating Laurence Fishburne as an inspirational humanitarian, the epitome of wisdom, self-awareness, growth and development, and a man of substance and versatility.
This is only the second video I have watched of yours and I can already say that your follow-up questions are amazing. The way you think of great questions off the top of your head makes the interview that much better.
He deserved an Oscar for Ike
My sister is a PROFESSIONAL working and world known artist who draws the human form and she said artistically Angela Bassett is the most beautiful woman to ever lived
I thought so
Have always LOVED Lawrence Fishburne. I've seen much of his diverse work! LOVE him!!🥰
That is one of the best movies ever! I'm glad Laurence turned it up after turning it down 5 times! Casting was PERFECT! Has Laurence directed any movies? I suppose his past experiences helped him play the Ike character SO WELL! (nice interview)
No directing that I know of. He has produced on Black-ish, Mixed-ish and Grown-ish.
@@ImJustaWill Thank you so much for responding!
Violence doesn’t have to be shown to be understood. The whole movie turned out really emotional anyway, it is a fantastic movie. I am glad I saw Tina Turner at a live concert, she is my mom’s favourite singer, I love her as well ❤
Underrated actor; King of New York, Boyz in the Hood, The Matrix some of the my favorite movies
Laurence Fishburne is an icon… one of my many favorite rolls was Othello. He crushed that character!! 🔥♥️🥰
What's love got to do with it WOULD NOT be the same without Laurence playing Ike... NOBODY else could be Ike lol
I love all of Laurence Fishburn's movies . I think his portrayal of Ike Turner in What's love got to do with it . Was phenomenal ‼️ But I can't help wondering , what that movie would've been like . If that role had been played by the actor Thomas Jefferson Byrd ❓️💡🤔 . He bears a slight resembles to Ike Turner . And he played those street wise gritty personality characters . 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Always Gone LIVE! I love hearing Black Actors speak in high regards of other Black Actors
I saw "What's Love Got to Do With It..." as a little girl and I should have been protected from that. The scene Laurence described is the scene that stays with me (I literally have to envision doing bodily harm to "Ike" to relieve the feelings that come up for me)
😄😁😆😅🤣😂
Listen when you self reflect, get help through the process and actually grow/change it’s so powerful. I wish this interview were longer. You asked him some great questions! Mr. Fishburne’s ability to consider the emotional and mental impact on not just himself, but also his co-stars’ is a level of emotional intelligence that most never reach!
I knew three men, earlier on in life, with very similar personalities to the Ike Turner Laurence Fishburne brought to the screen. Beaten. Broken men. They knew the position they were in - that was it. This would be it for the rest of their lives. They would NEVER rise any further. And it ate them up. The only power they had, was confined to the four walls of the house they lived in. And woe to all the occupants because they were in for a hellish experience. Laurence took me back to those days. He was a reproduction of those men and it stirred the same buried but familiar, cold-blooded, nauseated feeling I would get in their presence. Laurence had the gravitas to tap into that evil and project it through the screen. I thought he was exceptional.
So Deep. Thank you for sharing this story. It goes on in too many homes.
The way you described it man
I heard his agent wanted him to take lead roles and pulp fiction wasn't full on lead so he turned it down for a movie called Bad Company which turned out not being good
Facts that movie was corny
everything ain't for everybody....
The matrix so much deeper then ppl think its crazy. Its layers underneath layers of truth. Subliminals all in the movie. Just a masterpiece
Amazing honesty on Mr. Fishburne's part. God bless him for this honesty about his brutal past and overcoming it. Seems like a very mature man. I love his responses about refusing role on Pulp Fiction and accepting What's Love Got to do with It. God bless him.
They both should have gotten nominated for this movie.. Mr. Fishbourne all time greatest actor.. was totally believed.. Nailed It!!
They both did get nominated dum dum
GREAT interview.
Great questions.
Jemele! Just discovering your channel. GREAT questions. Looking forward to further interviews. I just subscribed!
I admire Mr. Fishburn for his admission on being a considerate human being towards certain intense scenes with Ms. Basset during filming. Great interview by Ms. J. Hill.👍🌹
I'm not sure if he was being considerate of Angela as such but I think it was mostly to protect himself from being triggered. As an ex-abuser the intense scenes would have taken him all the way back to his old ways and that can be difficult to relive especially after having transformed from that kind of person.
Great interview, I absolutely adore his transparency and grace. ❤
❤ + RESPECT this!!!
This is the type of personal transparency that we as a community NEED to hear. Normalize addressing the issue and growth @ 7:27 +. Kudos to you Jemele for ALWAYS being a true stand up journalist and love and respect to Uncle Fishburne for just being YOU dear Sir… in all your poise and wisdom!
I can't tell you how heartfelt and sincere I am when I say I'm glad to have had a positive acquaintance with all of you❤
Good job with letting him talk. I hope to see the full interview soon
Great interview...love Mr Fishburne's honesty, thoughtfulness and informative answers. Jemele, great questions! Loved it all.
Such an Act of Class for Mr Fishburne.. Big ups and respect for you to come forth with your shortcomings.. thats a big way we grow and it shows.. Even though he played Ike very well, that stigma of that character for Fishburne didn’t stick with me because he’s done so many other profound roles ⚡️
Cornbread, Earl & me..I hav it on dvd & he was a great actor at the age the movie was made..
I appreciate his honesty in addressing his own issues publicly a lot of times we don’t acknowledge post therapy domestic violence diagnosis as black men.
Jemele you're a great interviewer/journalist, you have great follow up questions! I enjoyed this snippet!
I’m so glad he didn’t turn this down. No one else could’ve played Ike!!!
Great revealing interview with dignity
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Mr. Fishburne you really put personality on Ike Turner's character. My favorite line was when Ike told one of the Ikette's "...you going to be frying fish..." 😂
That is the grown up way to look at it. What is for you is for you, God won’t give you somebody else’s blessing. This man is so smart and I love him setting boundaries for their well being. Very brave to admit that he was abusive to his 1st wife in this judgmental cancel culture world we live in. Him, Denzel and Samuel have always been my top 3 in their era and age range……
I can't tell you how heartfelt and sincere I am when I say I'm glad to have had a positive acquaintance with all of you❤
Laurence fishburne is an absolute legend
Great man right there. Shoutout to Laurence seeking the help he needed at a young age. #Legend
He understood the role he had been there from past experiences! He played that part to the Tee! She asked excellent questions! Respect Accountability!
Met Laurence when I lived in LA. In the early 80's. I dated a friend of his (Paul,) who was also friends with Emilio Estevez. Went to a party with Paul and Laurence after stopping in Malibu to say hello to Emilio. A super guy! Both were actually.
For people saying Mr. Fishburne is wise, that's nothing new and an understatement. Look at his catalog, Furious (Boyz in the hood), Morpheous (Matrix) even when he played a professor in (Higher Learning). He always added wisdom to his characters.
He was also that cowboy in Pee-Wee Herman's Playhouse
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Cowboy Curtis
He was fine in Boyz in the Hood
The way he is SO SYMPATHETIC, and so kind; understanding what an abusive relationship is like, going after the right thing to make it right, he knew that the movie set for What's Love was going to be hell if some measures weren't taken, and he knew what those measures were. The way he cared about Angela so much, and obviously she did him as well.... the way he cared about the crew, not wanting people to experience 100% nightmare at work, setting the boundaries and stuff, otherwise he wouldn't play it; hell, he'd turned it down other times before, he could easily drop off. I adore Laurence as an actor and as a person... I rarely get to see him spit out all his acting talent as he did playing Ike Turner..... he's a class act, like Ike was, despite being such a tormented and sick soul, and Angela, Jesus..... class act like the Queen of Rock n' Roll herself!
LOVE IT! Love's got EVERYTHING to do with it in this instance hahahaha
Thanks for asking such insightful follow-up questions, Jamelle. It revealed things about Mr.. Fishburne that I never knew. I appreciate his vulnerability & candor.
Laurence is amazing. Very talented actor.
I can't tell you how heartfelt and sincere I am when I say I'm glad to have had a positive acquaintance with all of you🌹💗
Respect level just went up for this man
Jemele great interview and he is one of favorite all time actors thank you Mr. Fishburne for your great work all these years and this excellent interview.
Beautiful perspective Larry!! You have been perfect in every role you partook. Great man all around.