In my view, what separates Guthrie is that while there are many technical guitarists who can do amazing things with scripted, highly practiced lines, he can bang out insane chops almost without thinking. He's a stream of musical consciousness!
In mine is his hair....."Stream of counsciouness" is a DT song and it sounds better than Govan's entire career for me. But, yeah, wtf, he is very talented...
I don't mean to shit on your point but scales and improvisational solos are one of the first things lead players learn. Pretty much any guitarist learns to improvise musical solos after a while. What separates Guthrie IS the breadth of technical playing he has mastered. I'd argue his improvisational guitar playing is kind of rambling, on musical merit, but insanely technical and some of the runs are things it would take months for advanced players to learn to do once - and he can pull them out off the cuff.
Amazing how many people know how Guthrie plays without much thought?! Guy was practicing and learning, but he clearly has an edge over others. His techniques i more refined.
a veritable monster in his own right! but yeah.. Tosin (and Andy) were SHOCKED in the best way.. Hard to tell through John's beard what his initial reaction was, but he did dial it back to accompanist most graciously and professional as one can expect from the guy.
Govan is not thinking about shapes or any of thst stuff…he is probably hearing all those notes inside his head and just transcribing it on his instrument, just like we hear ideas in our mind before speaking
I believe thats true. I also believe that he has played on this kind of music, type of song and developed so many words that he instinctively assembles them on spot.
Phenomenal. Those bends are right on pitch and seem to come from nowhere. It’s just like he has the composer’s perfectly written score running through his head - yet he’s improvising the exact notes!
First let's acknowledge that all of these dudes are incredibly guitarists. But damn!! Does Guthrie have an end? He has like... 5th gear, 6th gear, and it goes on and on!! And he's not getting any slower with age. Seriously inspiring.
This is probably the best guitar solo I've EVER heard. Some of these licks actually brought tears to my eyes - along with an ear-to-ear, cheek-cramping smile!
The thing with guthrie, it's all about serving the music. His improv doesn't scream "look at me", it just rides tge chord progression. This dude is a master among masters.
I agree, and this is hard to do, because aesthetically you gotta feel the music (rhythm, mood, etc), then technically you gotta also understand how it's done (scale, modes etc, or simply use pentatonic is alright IMO, it's a tool as well), then physically you gotta have that stamina to endure multiple bends or shreds or whatever you're trying to do aesthetically and technically (I saw this video of Jason Richardson saying he gotta practice every day because the shreds he does demands stamina and endurance for doing it so long in minutes non stop). So yeah, all in all, Guthrie is a phenomenon from those aspects, to me at least. Sorry for the long post.
You’re welcome! Check other videos I have from Paul Gilbert, Guthrie, etc. I will continue uploading stuff! Glad to share and to know that some people can enjoy this as much I do!
Its amazing because Andy is no slouch himself, his playing is clean and soulful. To be impressed by Guthrie when you're already a shred god speaks volumes
@@chiyo-chanholocaust8143 I don't know about that, JP has gotten sloppy over the years, and I love Tosin but his improv skills are just nowhere near as good as anyone else on stage. He's even said it himself before. I think they all hold their own technically, but for improvisation I can see why everyone's mind is blown by Guthrie
An amazing line up of guitarist should not be forgotten here & it's great to see Guthrie still searching or absorbing the notes he's about to play as I don't think he thinks that far ahead because he knows they are going to there for him to play them... I love Eddie Van Halen RIP I love Satriani I love Vail But the last 2 know Guthrie is on a whole different level , but that's cool , as we are still getting these amazing musicians who are still playing & I worry of the day we have no new musician's coming in to keep it being passed on to the next generation... Granted Guthrie Govan these amazing guitarist's are playing & keeping it going but for me I feel that when these guitarist's & many of great guitarist stop are we going to see someone stand up & take it to the next level or just a level that'll keep music alive as I surely hope so.... In light of this still ongoing coronavirus and it's variants stay safe and healthy wherever you are in this world... ....
Right on - John is the consummate musician, knowing when and how to lay a beautiful, solid canvas for the soloist. I love how intensely he was watching Guthrie play so he could anticipate the best choice for the flow. A true Master.
I was glad to hang out with Guthrie before a live a winter some years ago. He was sitting alone smoking a cigarette and I accompany him smoking a cigarette too. He gave me a soulful smile...also gave me the impression of an extremely humble person.. He sure CAN play but I think that he is not in the shity GOAT trip ...
I never say Best - but this guy Guthrie Govan is from outer-space. Just an absolute: Freak-Show = Phenomenal guitar player. He motivates & Inspires me to Practice-more. oNe LoVe from NYC
@@alesis100 I used to think this too but honestly I think people just equate him with the dream theater stuff. Not that that's bad, but I do like his solo stuff much better. Check out "Glasgow Kiss" (specifically the live version in tokyo) I think you'll like it.
@@aaronkristo858 ehh that's a bit unfair, Guthrie' solo album is a masterpiece and beautifully composed, and much of Tosin's stuff with Animals as Leaders is listenable and immensely popular. Petrucci has definitely written the largest number of great songs though and is easily the most influential (in the minds of many he literally co-invented prog metal)
Virtuosity often lacks spirit when technical excellence is pursued over connection with the audience. This performance was for the performers, not the audience… and you can hear the small audience’s response as a result. Jazz may be excellent but it’s a self serving niche mostly. Enjoy!
I noticed a lot of slightly misplaced comments here... Yes, Guthrie rocked it, and the truth is, JP was the only one able to follow through the changes so he held up the rhythm while everyone else just stood there drooling. 💯% Fact 🤘🤘
I agree it does melt faces, and this is hard to do, because aesthetically you gotta feel the music (rhythm, mood, etc), then technically you gotta also understand how it's done (scale, modes etc, or simply use pentatonic is alright IMO, it's a tool as well), then physically you gotta have that stamina to endure multiple bends or shreds or whatever you're trying to do aesthetically and technically (I saw this video of Jason Richardson saying he gotta practice every day because the shreds he does demands stamina and endurance for doing it so long in minutes non stop). So yeah, all in all, Guthrie is a phenomenon from those aspects, to me at least. Sorry for the long post.
to me that‘s almost true: i put shawn lane above him. and allan holdsworth is just even further in his own galaxy. but guthrie is simply incredible. an icon.
Guthrie has Broken through to the 4th Dimension Musically .. When i play guitar, its like the invention of the wheel. When Guthrie plays guitar its like Time travel through a Completely mapped out Universe ..
You know you’re good when John Petrucci is your rhythm guitarist
Yeah, no kidding, right!!
Tosin is layin' out, also a statement I guess...
You're putting too many O in that 'good' word.
loooool
God*
In my view, what separates Guthrie is that while there are many technical guitarists who can do amazing things with scripted, highly practiced lines, he can bang out insane chops almost without thinking. He's a stream of musical consciousness!
In mine is his hair....."Stream of counsciouness" is a DT song and it sounds better than Govan's entire career for me. But, yeah, wtf, he is very talented...
That is "his thing" .... improvisation without extraneous thought!
I don't mean to shit on your point but scales and improvisational solos are one of the first things lead players learn. Pretty much any guitarist learns to improvise musical solos after a while. What separates Guthrie IS the breadth of technical playing he has mastered. I'd argue his improvisational guitar playing is kind of rambling, on musical merit, but insanely technical and some of the runs are things it would take months for advanced players to learn to do once - and he can pull them out off the cuff.
Amazing how many people know how Guthrie plays without much thought?! Guy was practicing and learning, but he clearly has an edge over others. His techniques i more refined.
@@TeezMalt the question is: who cares? His music is so boring for me...
As a bassist this many guitar players on stage at one time is my worst nightmare
Now that's funny. Mine too and I'm a guitarist.
Only scenario worse in this case is if the bass player actually took a solo
@@thesandman775 as a bass player, groove>>>>>>>>bass solo
That bass player holds his own though.
As a bass player even one guitar player can have me shrugging my shoulders and wishing I had stayed home to watch Mr Ed reruns.
You know you’re top of the game when Tosin starts dribbling and Petrucci just starts plying barre chords
And Andy James refuses to play at all...
I love how through all of this Tosin was just vibing 😀
a veritable monster in his own right! but yeah.. Tosin (and Andy) were SHOCKED in the best way.. Hard to tell through John's beard what his initial reaction was, but he did dial it back to accompanist most graciously and professional as one can expect from the guy.
He tried to cut him off at least two times.
1:26 especially lol
Govan is not thinking about shapes or any of thst stuff…he is probably hearing all those notes inside his head and just transcribing it on his instrument, just like we hear ideas in our mind before speaking
indeed
I believe thats true. I also believe that he has played on this kind of music, type of song and developed so many words that he instinctively assembles them on spot.
@@juankmarte4046 agree
Maybe
How would you know?
Phenomenal. Those bends are right on pitch and seem to come from nowhere.
It’s just like he has the composer’s perfectly written score running through his head - yet he’s improvising the exact notes!
That dude is miles beyond any other virtuosic guitarist.
Not even close.
Yeah, a great guitar teacher, not a great musician.
Oh, have you heard the aristocrats? Come back and reply when you are over 16
Comments here are from people who worship Michael Angelo batio lol
Holdsworth>Gambale>Lane. Govan isn't even near the top imo.
First let's acknowledge that all of these dudes are incredibly guitarists. But damn!! Does Guthrie have an end? He has like... 5th gear, 6th gear, and it goes on and on!! And he's not getting any slower with age. Seriously inspiring.
Guthrie's phrasing is like how many times they shift in Fast and furious. Unlimited.
You make guitar playing sound like racing cars.
@@spacejockey4746 some guitar playing, and some songs ARE like a car race. Nothing wrong with that IMHO
Guthrie goes to 11.
👀 Bruh, he's 50, not 85.
Unbelievable skill. And the craziest thing: he’s improvising.
His phrasing is second to none. It's like listening to someone telling a story.
You know, you are on a Leveln on your own when you can make JP, Abasi and Andy goes "wtf?" simultaneously!
This is probably the best guitar solo I've EVER heard. Some of these licks actually brought tears to my eyes - along with an ear-to-ear, cheek-cramping smile!
This comment made me smile man, I'm glad you experienced hearing something you know it's out of this world. The feeling is crazy
The thing with guthrie, it's all about serving the music. His improv doesn't scream "look at me", it just rides tge chord progression. This dude is a master among masters.
I agree, and this is hard to do, because aesthetically you gotta feel the music (rhythm, mood, etc), then technically you gotta also understand how it's done (scale, modes etc, or simply use pentatonic is alright IMO, it's a tool as well), then physically you gotta have that stamina to endure multiple bends or shreds or whatever you're trying to do aesthetically and technically (I saw this video of Jason Richardson saying he gotta practice every day because the shreds he does demands stamina and endurance for doing it so long in minutes non stop). So yeah, all in all, Guthrie is a phenomenon from those aspects, to me at least. Sorry for the long post.
I like how if you have jeans, you are stage right and black pants are stage left- nice and coordinated.
thanks for posting this gem of an improvisation
1:39 he plays something Tosin would’ve played and they laugh together! Awesome 👏
You sir are a gem to have captured & uploaded the cream of the jam - thank you ✌️
You’re welcome! Check other videos I have from Paul Gilbert, Guthrie, etc. I will continue uploading stuff! Glad to share and to know that some people can enjoy this as much I do!
guthrie plays something that is, before anything else, beautiful. chops are secondary to the flow of the song. a true master.
Hats off to the drummer, you are killing it ! 🤘🤘
The one and only Mike Mangini
Its amazing because Andy is no slouch himself, his playing is clean and soulful. To be impressed by Guthrie when you're already a shred god speaks volumes
Dude...I mean I would easily put Tosin and Petrucci above Andy and even they were floored
Everyone there is no slouch 😆
@@chiyo-chanholocaust8143 I don't know about that, JP has gotten sloppy over the years, and I love Tosin but his improv skills are just nowhere near as good as anyone else on stage. He's even said it himself before. I think they all hold their own technically, but for improvisation I can see why everyone's mind is blown by Guthrie
I would say that Govan was more interested than Andy James, when James performed. He almost fell on his head:
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And Guthrie said that Shawn lane is the greatest all time
When Gandalf sits in on the jam.
When deciding on stage space allocation for multiple guitarists, it's crucial to go left-to-right, in order of bicep size.
Love Tosin's smile watching him...........
love how tosin is digging the odd rythm groove thingies that guthrie is throwing in
and the flat 5
A cara que do Tosin Abasi e Andy James ( dois gênios) fazem, é impagável!!!!!
1:05 Guthrie goes into hyperspace and Andy James just cant fathom what he saw.
Genius does not describe enough.
What a line up…..they all look stunned.
An amazing line up of guitarist should not be forgotten here & it's great to see Guthrie still searching or absorbing the notes he's about to play as I don't think he thinks that far ahead because he knows they are going to there for him to play them...
I love Eddie Van Halen RIP
I love Satriani
I love Vail
But the last 2 know Guthrie is on a whole different level , but that's cool , as we are still getting these amazing musicians who are still playing & I worry of the day we have no new musician's coming in to keep it being passed on to the next generation...
Granted Guthrie Govan these amazing guitarist's are playing & keeping it going but for me I feel that when these guitarist's & many of great guitarist stop are we going to see someone stand up & take it to the next level or just a level that'll keep music alive as I surely hope so....
In light of this still ongoing coronavirus and it's variants stay safe and healthy wherever you are in this world...
....
The line starting at 1:02 is one of the best leading in lines I’ve ever heard that leads straight to the shred line right after
Petrucci is doing the comping while the others watch in awe.
Right on - John is the consummate musician, knowing when and how to lay a beautiful, solid canvas for the soloist. I love how intensely he was watching Guthrie play so he could anticipate the best choice for the flow. A true Master.
All these badass guitar players and they’re like 🙏🏻
I was glad to hang out with Guthrie before a live a winter some years ago. He was sitting alone smoking a cigarette and I accompany him smoking a cigarette too. He gave me a soulful smile...also gave me the impression of an extremely humble person.. He sure CAN play but I think that he is not in the shity GOAT trip ...
Thats some fuckin lineup on that stage :)
I never say Best - but this guy Guthrie Govan is from outer-space. Just an absolute: Freak-Show = Phenomenal guitar player. He motivates & Inspires me to Practice-more. oNe LoVe from NYC
Good playing serves as to make people happier and give them strength ...
Govan has a lot of strengths, but his #1 is improv. He can go for quite a stretch w/o repeating himself.
GG can do G3 by himself.
00:58 to 1:08, wth. the resolution at the end. like the nod before he goes into it too heh
You know you got chops when Petrucci is looking at you with his jaw on the floor.
Petrucci the most overrated on that stage.
@@alesis100 I used to think this too but honestly I think people just equate him with the dream theater stuff. Not that that's bad, but I do like his solo stuff much better. Check out "Glasgow Kiss" (specifically the live version in tokyo) I think you'll like it.
@@alesis100 Petrucci is only one on that stage who knows how to apply that kind of technique into songs that people actually want to listen to.
@@aaronkristo858 ehh that's a bit unfair, Guthrie' solo album is a masterpiece and beautifully composed, and much of Tosin's stuff with Animals as Leaders is listenable and immensely popular. Petrucci has definitely written the largest number of great songs though and is easily the most influential (in the minds of many he literally co-invented prog metal)
The man the myth, the legendary / OGG
Nobody can improvise like GG the mad professor with skills to match brilliance.
Amazing guitar player!!!
🤟🏻
Guthrie is on his own level. Nobody else is up there
Isn't that Jon Finn to Guthrie? I love watching Tosin's face light up.
1:35 what in the… That idea just kind of fell in there. Djiizas
Live from the Wyndham hotel conference room, and still quality playing.
Virtuosity often lacks spirit when technical excellence is pursued over connection with the audience. This performance was for the performers, not the audience… and you can hear the small audience’s response as a result. Jazz may be excellent but it’s a self serving niche mostly. Enjoy!
0:40 unbelievable
Dudes a league of his own.
He makes it look so easy.
The audience is guitar players ,and girl friends that would rather be any place else. Having said that, awesome guitar playing!
I noticed a lot of slightly misplaced comments here... Yes, Guthrie rocked it, and the truth is, JP was the only one able to follow through the changes so he held up the rhythm while everyone else just stood there drooling.
💯% Fact 🤘🤘
Giddy up Guthrie !
They are all staring at Guthrie like students watching a guru 😅😅😅
Tosin’s face says it all haha! Guthrie has always been this amazing, ever since Erotic Cakes dropped hes just been top notch from day one
Guthrie is the guitarist that all these other guys look up to.
Govan looked up to Holdsworth and Holdsworth didn't even want to play guitar lol
Fresh blood required... must be tons out there
@1:20-1:23, kind of sounds like a nod to an old Dream Theater lick.
best audio in this vid..
The absolute goat
I agree it does melt faces, and this is hard to do, because aesthetically you gotta feel the music (rhythm, mood, etc), then technically you gotta also understand how it's done (scale, modes etc, or simply use pentatonic is alright IMO, it's a tool as well), then physically you gotta have that stamina to endure multiple bends or shreds or whatever you're trying to do aesthetically and technically (I saw this video of Jason Richardson saying he gotta practice every day because the shreds he does demands stamina and endurance for doing it so long in minutes non stop). So yeah, all in all, Guthrie is a phenomenon from those aspects, to me at least. Sorry for the long post.
So why can you not get a cd of Guthrie Govans music.
tosins smile
where are the fractal dudes at? is guthrie using an ax8 here?
Guthrie doesnt search the notes..the notes come to Guthrie
Question. Did they divide the stage up by the pants they wear? You in the black pants, over there, you in the jeans this side. Maybe hair color too?
my 1000 time seeing this
but first time so close
I love the moment when GG ends his part and everyone else is comping on the vibes of "over to you" and "well I'm not following THAT"....
I love the respect of throwing the dream theater riff in at 1:19
learning to live?
@@fffaccini yes sir
@@erikmclennan3934 well looked!
Abasi can't stop smiling.
Which one's Govan and What did he do when ? I missed something.
😂😂😂🙌
Master
Ha. Is it black tee, blues jeans against black tee, black jeans? What's the premise?
Wow. Steve Vai to the power of 10.
I feel for the guy following that
I like GUTHRIE GOVAN when he talks.
That's a great backing band "holding him up" lmao 🤘🤘🤘
Yo that bass player good too man.
Split the stage based on denim color
Guthrie is guitar Jesus in every sense of the word
When you're a little-self-taught-English-guy-looks-like-GOD besides all the Berclee guys 😀
His bends are never... out... of... tune...
I've never heard better than Guthrie
to me that‘s almost true: i put shawn lane above him. and allan holdsworth is just even further in his own galaxy.
but guthrie is simply incredible. an icon.
Guthrie has Broken through to the 4th Dimension Musically .. When i play guitar, its like the invention of the wheel. When Guthrie plays guitar its like Time travel through a Completely mapped out Universe ..
You know you got something when have the group stop's playing and just stares at you... 😭
A true guitar wizard!
He killed all what the perfomance needed.
What? lol
Seeing Alex with a Frank Gamble Ibanez is interesting, and the biggest face melt is Andy James.
Go team denim!
That is a guitar shaped GROWTH that Guthrie was born with. Just needed strings.😁
Don’t forget players like Greg Koch while we all admire GG!
GK is legendary!
Greg is a much better player.
Greg is one of the few who could actually hang with GG
He's the best. And the Aristocrats are fn awesome.
I haven't seen him match John McLaughlin, but yeah he is good.
Andy: shit I should have cared more about how every noted feels and fits well in different chord progressions.
There’s just no one like him. At all.
Govan is god of improvisation.
Whoa, you really like titles that refer to something being melted huh
🤯
haha, the 4th guy didn't even play, the other guy, turned himself down. yep Guthrie Govan, is not afraid to go for it at any level