Microsoft Recall is NOT Mandatory?!?

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  • A fix for the Recall Feature is now here, but what does the future look like .
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  • @ChrisTitusTech
    @ChrisTitusTech  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Here was the fix where appmanifest is fixed in file explorer: github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil/pull/2947

    • @billyguthrie3176
      @billyguthrie3176 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did you see that Google has come up with their own recall like feature they are gonna put in chrome called "Project Jarvis"

    • @dhmarlon
      @dhmarlon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi Chris, may I ask how to install this fix? 😊

    • @PunkDogCreations
      @PunkDogCreations 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please stop using God's holy name disrespectfully in your content.

    • @brokeandtired
      @brokeandtired 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I left Windows for good last week....

    • @Axiarus
      @Axiarus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@PunkDogCreations It is his content. You can not watch it if it bothers you.

  • @hudefuk
    @hudefuk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +430

    There was a time, long ago, when mankind looked eagerly forward to new groundbreaking Windows features, free of dread and consternation.

    • @musicalneptunian
      @musicalneptunian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      In that ancient time one magnificent beast rules all: XPasaurus. But over time he was overtaken by new predators, 7asaurus, 8asaurus and now the most foul beast yet, 11asaurus with amazing 70/20 vision to spy on prey 90 miles away.

    • @CrimsonTideGuy
      @CrimsonTideGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      yes people even dished out hundreds of dollars, now it is impending dread of AI

    • @ChrisTitusTech
      @ChrisTitusTech  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Those were good times...

    • @TheNerd
      @TheNerd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Ah you mean like.... never? The was ALWAYS consternation about Microsoft products even in the 80s

    • @hudefuk
      @hudefuk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Windows has finally developed a feature to rival the innovation of Mr. Clippy, yet some don't appreciate the accomplishment.

  • @skorne7682
    @skorne7682 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +933

    When not having an NPU in your PC becomes a selling point.

    • @ThisIsLiam-001
      @ThisIsLiam-001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How did you do that search link on 🔎“NPU”

    • @VarriskKhanaar
      @VarriskKhanaar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      "Microsoft Windows 11 would like access to your GPU..." :D

    • @mowtow90
      @mowtow90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      They will find a way to force is on everyone. Probably on clould analytics or using the CPU or GPU instead (dragging all of your perf down). Remember when they stated that there wont be any tacking on your PC-- yeah , the good old days.

    • @xFluing
      @xFluing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      @@mowtow90 Microsoft is doing such a good job pushing linux as a viable alternative.

    • @Dayanto
      @Dayanto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Recall has been available without an NPU basically since it came out. It didn't even sound like it had much impact on performance, so lacking an NPU is not an obstacle.

  • @quentinator
    @quentinator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    Malicious or incompetent? Why not both.

    • @guilherme5094
      @guilherme5094 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      👍👍!!!

  • @JohnCastleSmokeless
    @JohnCastleSmokeless 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

    Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
    But, here's the corollary; Reynolds' Razor: "Never excuse as innocent stupidity that which can only be explained by malice."
    This can _only_ be explained by malicious design.

    • @markh.6687
      @markh.6687 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      You left out "Greed". As has been said, YOU are the product. Your data is sold and resold for profit. Your privacy is irrelevant.

    • @kmg501
      @kmg501 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm often torn between if something is driven by malice or created by stupidity. Ultimately this is something that we all have to figure out for ourselves or at least have debates over. That said I want to leave what I think is a crucial life lesson for anyone who is not already familiar it. Look up Carlo M. Cipolla. His work on the ramifications of stupidity is world changing...

    • @MrMeltdown
      @MrMeltdown 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Intentional stupidity….
      “intentional negligence”
      Criminal negligence
      Criminal stupidity?

    • @Sasquatch89537
      @Sasquatch89537 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@markh.6687 what's worse is Windows is a paid product. So you're paying to have privacy violated

    • @blazernitrox6329
      @blazernitrox6329 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, I'm in that "why not both?" camp. I'm not familiar enough with Windows' dependency mechanisms to be able to confidently say that they did it on purpose, but I could _absolutely_ believe that testing with Recall uninstalled was... low in management's priorities, let's say.

  • @NoEgg4u
    @NoEgg4u 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    Perhaps Microsoft is determined to have Recall run, such that attempts to remove it will break standard tools, like file explorer, and perhaps other tools when Recall gets an update down the road.
    Breaking things might be intentional by Microsoft, to dissuade people from removing or disabling their latest and greatest spyware tool.

    • @diaman_d
      @diaman_d 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was it the government that asked Microsoft to spy on everyone, or was it Microsoft who offered that service to all governments.

    • @LedoCool1
      @LedoCool1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I at least see a demand in alternative shells. Will they port kde to windows again?

    • @thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755
      @thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      we've already seen it with edge. every time you would disable or uninstall it with command prompt- it just got reinstalled the next update.

    • @Lockwood360
      @Lockwood360 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755 Recall is easily removed with a command and doesn't break explorer like hes saying. I already did it. Also you can in fact remove edge as well via command. it wont come back. Did that long ago as well. Simple google search ;) This is all basic shit that im surprised to see on this channell

    • @RN1441
      @RN1441 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think this is because part of their anti-trust spanking back in the 90s was that they pretended that IE was mandatory for windows to run properly, but it wasn't true so they had to resort to editing video that the court caught. Now it looks like they are trying to actually make dependencies.

  • @false_positive
    @false_positive 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +434

    `Nothing makes Linux so popular as Windows Recall does`

    • @Olorin-wp9it
      @Olorin-wp9it 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      For a week maybe. Until the disgruntled Windows user realizes that Linux sucks and reinstalls Windows again.

    • @AJ-po6up
      @AJ-po6up 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@Olorin-wp9it Linux can do 99% of what Windows can and there's almost always an alternative available if it can't. Also if you got rid of Windows because of RecAll there's no way you're coming back, no amount of disgruntledness is too high to come back and give all your data to Microsoft unless you really never truly cared about it.

    • @cam_934
      @cam_934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@AJ-po6up "Linux can do 99% of what Windows" what version of Linux? because there are so many, and when you need the inevitable help for your version of Linux you are now getting to the way less than 1% of PC users in that forum. And those forums are full of arrogant Linux users who think you should know all the Linux cmd's off by heart or your not worth helping. Then you have the Linux users that visit Windows forums and TH-cam videos trying to convince people to come on over to the dark side, I guess they feel lonely.

    • @colton_936
      @colton_936 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cam_934 You can use AI to troubleshoot pretty much 100% of Linux issues at this point.
      If you’re technical enough to be watching this TH-cam channel there’s really no reason to not be on Linux at this point.
      There’s open source alternatives for pretty much every software and support for games is improved ten-fold since steam deck came out.

    • @asphalt2554
      @asphalt2554 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cam_934 Lol the dark side.. quick reminder your using linux right now.. yknow… almost every server runs linux…. The dark side!! it’s every platform that has a server!!! :0000000

  • @marcs8325
    @marcs8325 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +504

    "Removing Recall gives you the old Windows File Explorer" that's a win win situation 😂

    • @kiimaro
      @kiimaro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      "That's a feature, not a bug"

    • @ariel_chess
      @ariel_chess 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why?

    • @Jon717
      @Jon717 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Explorer will lose dark mode, so it's not exactly a win win.

    • @TheNerd
      @TheNerd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Tabs in the file explorer are the best feature that Microsoft added to the file explorer since Windows 2000.

    • @Kanbei11
      @Kanbei11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@TheNerd that's only a recent thing? Dolphin has had it for years

  • @billyguthrie3176
    @billyguthrie3176 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Retired microsoft engineer Dave plummer the guy who wrote task manager and windows 95 start menu said "Recall is there even in some non copiliot plus pc's but it can be disabled. whats it doing? my guess is nothing but it is a dependency for file explorer it can't be stripped out but it's still there and it's still loaded." I'm not sure but i think that's his way of saying it could be enabled at any time without the users knowledge, or that it wouldn't be loaded unless it was eventually going to be used for something. Now google is introducing their own Recall like feature called project Jarvis and yes it takes snapshots and saves them.

  • @sbwinn
    @sbwinn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    I'm tired of fighting Microsoft. I don't want ads, I don't want telemetry sent to Microsoft, I don't want copilot, I don't want the start menu to move around each release, I don't want obscure icons in the context menus, I don't want the ribbon bar, I don't want apps and options behind additional clicks, the list just goes on and on. I don't want Windows for free, I want to pay for it and buy a product, not to be a product. The best way I've found to fix all of this is to find a Linux distribution you like and install it. All those problems are fixed. Now you have new ones, but they aren't some corporation doing their best to catch 'every breath you take'.

    • @Foton0154
      @Foton0154 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      users become the product in the product they pay for

    • @BodomsScythe
      @BodomsScythe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Amen, brother.
      Watching this on Fedora 41.

  • @familiasouza889
    @familiasouza889 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    Imagine every time you change your car you need to figure out where is the brake, lights control, steering wheel because some "brilliant" engineer in Seattle decided to innovate and change everything?

    • @JorgeLopez-qj8pu
      @JorgeLopez-qj8pu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      But enough about Elon Musk and the Cybertruck

    • @maxrobe
      @maxrobe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just thinking that the Model T Ford pedal's functionality were totally different to modern cars and that was probably the biggest selling car during it's production run - yet peeps did adapt.

    • @leonidas14775
      @leonidas14775 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maxrobe If you bought a model T, then another car 10-15 years later you were probably getting a lot of new worthwhile features in addition to the pedal being moved. Windows 11 moves things around and gives you spyware, bloat, and high system requirements. Like going from XP to Vista

  • @martinjjnoagenda5536
    @martinjjnoagenda5536 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    In the end businesses will probably demand a clear removal option as they usually have no interest in sharing everything with unknown parties. They also have their own security, backup and repair options. The average sysadmin would probably be scared to death if every user could simply reset it's computer to an earlier state. They most likely would block it.

  • @ahmedthebest
    @ahmedthebest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    Most of the time,I feel that the programming team at Microsoft is doing their best to make this system much worse every time it updates.
    This makes me completely confused about how someone would want to become their most important product so badly.

    • @CnCDune
      @CnCDune 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Probably under/un-paid engineers and interns...

    • @Infinity_Ghost
      @Infinity_Ghost 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sadly windows isn't their most important product anymore, nor a product nowadays, but a service. Their big income now is MS365 and Teams, sold to companies and governments all over the world.

    • @abb0tt
      @abb0tt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Engineers don’t always call the shots.

    • @skibidi.G
      @skibidi.G 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This

    • @kgoblin5084
      @kgoblin5084 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Infinity_Ghost From that perspective though, it's the same thing' teams & MS365 ALSO seem to get worse & harder to use with every release.
      One simple example, just this year, within the last quarter or so, they broke the ability to copy-paste teams messages within teams. You used to be able to highlight messages, & it would copy the content ALONG WITH the names & date/times of the posters. Now it just copies the content. Why TF would they remove this feature, that literally everyone used on a day-to-day basis in the work environment? Search me... but it sure wasn't an improvement.

  • @peterjansen4826
    @peterjansen4826 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    This fix shows me even more that MS deliberately tied the two. That was not a 'mistake'. At least you can easily fix it, for now.

  • @mister0012
    @mister0012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    I wanna profusely thank Microsoft for this feature. It gave me the final push to switch to Linux.

    • @achaziel
      @achaziel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Lmao same. And no matter what they do, I ain't going back. Linux just feels so damn comfy once it's set up the way you want it to.

    • @GabrielM01
      @GabrielM01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I was on a call with a friend and i mentioned recall, he said "can you help me install linux next week?"

    • @QuartQ3
      @QuartQ3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@achaziel what distro should i use for gaming?

    • @TehM4dcow
      @TehM4dcow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@QuartQ3 Ubuntu or Mint, heck you can even just go all in with SteamOS

    • @GabrielM01
      @GabrielM01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@TehM4dcow Nobara or Bazzite to be more specific

  • @lloritoovidexequield.8609
    @lloritoovidexequield.8609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    With the benefit of hindsight, my decision to move to GNU/Linux in 2018 was the correct one.

    • @kraosdadafusfus8034
      @kraosdadafusfus8034 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not everyone has the patience nor the know-how to do it, unfortunately. There's also the issue a lot of programs are still designed to work only on Windows, despite the rise of compatibility layers like WINE and Proton.

    • @jedipadawan7023
      @jedipadawan7023 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kraosdadafusfus8034 >"Not everyone has the patience nor the know-how to do it, unfortunately." Linux NOT hard to use. It's really easy.
      Windows has been copying KDE since at least Windows 7... though they are now copying more from MacOS.
      Your point about software is legit but, honestly, the comman man can pick up Linux use in 20 minutes. I've done it with basketball obsessive teenagers who did not know what a file or folder was.

    • @lloritoovidexequield.8609
      @lloritoovidexequield.8609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kraosdadafusfus8034 for me the biggest problem is collaborating with Microsoft word users, the formatting of documents goes to Snafu both ways.

  • @ShyZShark
    @ShyZShark 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Yeah, this has to be intentional. Microsoft has known that people have been stripping down their OS for over a decade. They have managed to add so many features without integrating so much of it together for this long, and now that's really starting to change. They knew that Recall was going to be on the chopping block of apps to remove. The fact that you are questioning if this is malice or incompetence is exactly the middle ground Microsoft would want the tinkering community to think, it gives them an open door, and leaves you without answers so you might stick around because "What if?". This was absolutely a market evaluation strategy for a highly questionable addition to the operating system. No matter what, the end-user, loses.

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Seems you credit Microsoft with genius thinking and no matter what the user community does Microsoft is always is one step ahead. You think that there's no way to escape "no matter what, the end user loses" if you continue to run Windows.
      Personally I think you're giving Microsoft too much credit, and the features that they include I either, don't use them, disable them, remove them, replace them or ignore them.

    • @tobysource
      @tobysource 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      👍👍
      Well said.

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thiefware

    • @leonidas14775
      @leonidas14775 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Whether its malice or incompetence, its.. just... Bad

  • @TheStevenWhiting
    @TheStevenWhiting 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    It won't be mandatory as I said last time, the EU won't allow it so will be removed for the EU markets. So will be another Windows N version for the EU.

    • @PhilipMarcYT
      @PhilipMarcYT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      There's still plenty of garbage "features" M$ will include in Windows 11/12 that makes it an OS to be avoided.

    • @MV-ri7zu
      @MV-ri7zu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      ​@@PhilipMarcYThow tf do you avoid an OS that has a disgustingly strong monopoly on PC OS lol there is absolutely nothing that can replace windows. macos and linux are both severely limited compared to windows in compatibility with various apps.

    • @HiImKyle
      @HiImKyle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@MV-ri7zu Mostly because said apps tend to make their software for the OS they see being used most, if people spread out and the usage of all OSes was fairly equal, I would imagine mac and linux would get more apps that are exclusive to windows. It'll take time, but I imagine this will just happen naturally. A lot of people are moving to linux these days. Might not happen in the next year or 2, but 5-10 maybe, who knows.

    • @PhilipMarcYT
      @PhilipMarcYT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@MV-ri7zuFor personal use, my own choice.
      Businesses, I suppose they still have to go with Windows unless they find a way to work with a Linux distro.

    • @TrueBlade-1889
      @TrueBlade-1889 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They can still gave it optional but switched on by default.
      Many won't know.
      They're sneaky sods.

  • @CMDRSweeper
    @CMDRSweeper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As Rossmann said in his wisdom a while ago.
    If you keep letting a mistake slide or do that mistake just because it benefits you, well you aren't making that mistake by mistake anymore, you are doing it deliberately.
    And the core word for Recall here is still "Yet"

  • @DevilbyMoonlight
    @DevilbyMoonlight 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thankyou and the rest of the folks for figuring this one out!

  • @helzapoppin9810
    @helzapoppin9810 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    If it's MicroSoft, it's malicious.

    • @pardotkynes1
      @pardotkynes1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think you have found their new company slogan.

  • @sanderzuidmeer
    @sanderzuidmeer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Thank you for all your work!!!!

  • @svengustavsson7564
    @svengustavsson7564 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Much appreciation for bringing this to the surface and educating us on what is happening on Windows, saving all of us many hours of figuring things out on our own. Kudos to you!

  • @happysprollie
    @happysprollie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    "Is it malicious or is it incompetance?" It's interesting how these are the only options with Microsoft.

    • @SenileOtaku
      @SenileOtaku 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Malicious Incompetence.

  • @jimw7916
    @jimw7916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We should thank God for people like you Chris (and others) for doing this work. Where would we be without you? Keep up the good work.

  • @breadmoth6443
    @breadmoth6443 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    imagine taking microsoft at their word though. you know it will be reintroduced when everything has died down. want a guarantee? don't use microsoft windows anymore ... at this point and time Linux is more than capable.

  • @srviejo2298
    @srviejo2298 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Besides the security concern, how about the additional degradation of an SSD with unwanted write cycles?

  • @MrGFYne1337357
    @MrGFYne1337357 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Chris, you sir are a true champion of the people and that of freedom. All you want is for people to enjoy the computing experience no matter which OS the user chooses. Good job fren.

  • @JoJoDramo-ih7qk
    @JoJoDramo-ih7qk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Thats horrible... I will just play some games on my linux gaming pc after working on my linux laptop to forget about this horrible situation. thats horrible.

    • @d9zirable
      @d9zirable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can your linux gaming pc run wallpaper engine

    • @asphalt2554
      @asphalt2554 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@d9zirable Steam version on ubuntu does.. using a quick search.. theres a guide…

    • @Lojt241
      @Lojt241 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@d9zirableshort answer, yes
      Long anwser, yes but u have to use alternative app (not wallpaper engine) that can do the same thing

    • @d9zirable
      @d9zirable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bearde_mut9731 um, yeah i think? I found a copy on 1337x i think it might work

    • @darkchaos452366
      @darkchaos452366 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@d9zirablethere are a few wrapper programs that let you run it on linux. There are also some linux native alternatives like komorabi that fulfill the same use-case

  • @retropaganda8442
    @retropaganda8442 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    My company forces me to use Windows because of the Office suite, but apart from that everything else is done on Linux. They forced me to switch to Windows 11 last month and I can say I have even more reason to dislike it. All they did in that version is REMOVE features. The taskbar is now just a toy. It's become unusable for any professional work.

    • @ProtoType4588
      @ProtoType4588 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      run a windows vm in linux office does not need gpu acceleration

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When was the taskbar ever a tool for professional work? It just holds my most used apps and shows open programs and folders, same as before.

    • @d9zirable
      @d9zirable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Retrobar solves this issue

    • @CnCDune
      @CnCDune 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@d9zirable "solves" it in the sense that 3rd party patches are needed - meaning the underlying issue is still there.

    • @paulhendey1501
      @paulhendey1501 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I run Classic Shell and it's W11 version Open Shell. I chose w7 desktop.

  • @akuma2124
    @akuma2124 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'd say, its either 1 - planned (malicious) to essentially to act as a deterrent for the average user from uninstalling/disabling recall, because if it breaks older core functions, they'll be less inclined to attempting the removal. or 2 - they used co-pilot which wrote some mid code and broke more things than the engineers realized.

  • @cubeskywalker4953
    @cubeskywalker4953 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for keeping us in the loop!

  • @jceggbert5
    @jceggbert5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of Recall's features is being able to do a contextual search through both files and recent actions. That probably takes place in Explorer. Makes sense that they'd list it as a dependency for Explorer.

  • @anthonyr.589
    @anthonyr.589 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This was done by Microsoft on purpose. This company has been around forever. When adding new "features" the are doing it on purpose.

    • @fookingsog
      @fookingsog 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exfiltration Enshittification...M$ & Intel in Is(n't)real. Cogitate upon that. 🤔

  • @adamd1347
    @adamd1347 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Like some others, I'm sticking with 23H2 for the near future and waiting to see how this story develops. I made a custom, stripped down ISO, killed Windows updates (except for security) and I hope to hold off for at least a year. I really, really, don't want to switch to Linux as Linux desktop apps suck, but if this goes too far, well, I guess I will have too :(

  • @hudefuk
    @hudefuk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Not that anyone is going to see this late comment, but it seems that keeping all that telemetry data on every user was getting burdensome and unwieldy for their storage facilities. Hence the scheme for users to store their own telemetry on their own computer, where Microsoft can conveniently access it when needed.

    • @ItzMeKarizma
      @ItzMeKarizma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just imagine if that was true... lmao!

    • @cjay2
      @cjay2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ItzMeKarizma It's been true for a while now. Enjoy.

  • @VirendraBG
    @VirendraBG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I am tired of knowing what BS the MS is including in the Windows and Office suite. And later removing the BS after critics globally.
    Already trying Cinnamon and KDE. Once I finalize, I will be spinning it with Fedora or Debian. Thanks MS for the push.

    • @BurkenProductions
      @BurkenProductions 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't use fedora though, all the redhat nonsense is crap use a debian based system or just linux mint cinnamon.

    • @VirendraBG
      @VirendraBG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BurkenProductions
      Sure. I will consider your suggestion. 👍🏻
      I am already biased towards Debian.

    • @jedipadawan7023
      @jedipadawan7023 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nooo!! You can't go Linux!
      It's all about the terminal! There is no dependency resolution. You have to manually compile programs for course and there is not usable GUI or software.
      You can't!! Linux is only for programmers!
      Actually, none of the above is true but there is apparently some law, somewhere, that makes saying the above compulsory whenever Linux is mentioned in a positive light.
      Carry on.

    • @kolotxoz
      @kolotxoz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VirendraBG you cant go wrong with linux mint cinnamon

    • @VirendraBG
      @VirendraBG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kolotxoz
      I tried it.
      Creating a root user is not straightforward and easy.
      With Mint, Cinnamon, and Wayland I lost all my data when the system crashed.
      But the current version of Debian is a serious contender.

  • @patricknash9575
    @patricknash9575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    As many others have pointed out before me, it is obvious why MICROSOFT is doing this. MICROSOFT intends to use recall data to train a MICROSOFT AI personal assistant for each of us, which will 'suggest' how we make decisions and live our lives. MICROSOFT hopes to addict each of us to a MICROSOFT "way".

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How is screenshotting going to tell an AI how to run my life? AIs need to tell me stuff I don't know, not things I do know.

    • @tobysource
      @tobysource 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@SpaceCadet4Jesus You are not immune to propaganda. Good luck, homie.

    • @jedipadawan7023
      @jedipadawan7023 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That's kinda interesting because the public are shifting away from Microsoft to Google.
      It is a Google world outside of the office. Everyone I know outside my of my small business just uses google and TH-cam. They use Google apps, they store on Google drive, if i ask them that they do with their laptop they say "Google."
      For graphics they use Canva. Most users now do not use offline apps or store data on their Hard drives. They just boot the OS, start up Chrome and use Google apps.
      Yes, that means zero privacy as well, and most users are fine with that, Most people figure privacy is pointless and shrug but they are NOT being guided by Microsot at all now. They are only interested in Google.
      We live in a Google world now. Microsoft may be selling Windows on laptops but it's only to start the browser. [That's why Linux is now viable. People are much happier to accept booting Linux once you show them Linux will start a browser, run Google apps and do TH-cam. "Sold!" Yes, I type from experience.]

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jedipadawan7023 you have a good point about Google being dominant over Microsoft. When I sniff my network traffic and check my router data logs, it always shows Google, or something related to Google as being the highest traffic source. Microsoft traffic is very small and very infrequent, mostly checks for updates.
      I have far less to fear from Microsoft than I would from Google. It's pretty easy to stop Network traffic going to or from Microsoft, but nearly impossible to stop Google, since I do use Android phones.

  • @LilaHikes
    @LilaHikes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    An OS doesn't need all these so-called features. An OS needs to be efficient, have a small footprint, and leave as many resources possible for my apps. This continuous cat and mouse game with Microsoft is ridiculous.

    • @PropaneWP
      @PropaneWP 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It will stop when Microsoft don't think they're the most likely alternative. Same as Adobe. It's pure exploitation.

  • @tomwarren
    @tomwarren 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to see you correcting your other videos 🙏

  • @Atticus_Moore
    @Atticus_Moore 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Our current incentive structures and attractor states are dystopic so thank you for pointing out Recall. I checked my PC last night and I don't have it yet thankfully. Not sure what I'll do I guess use a a separate drive for gaming but that means I can't do everything I want on my PC which is the whole reason I built it in the first place.

  • @connorharris1900
    @connorharris1900 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks for figuring this out for me and making a fix public. your awesome chris

  • @YPLabs
    @YPLabs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This channel gets better and better!

  • @brandonb417
    @brandonb417 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chris, its people like you that keep MS honest. With all the shady stuff they're doing (not to mention their founder) I can't imagine this number of holy-crap items are purely accidental. I just built a Core Ultra 7 computer and I'll for sure be using your disable co-pilot tweak.

  • @lorinkundert
    @lorinkundert 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    found something from Microsoft, they referred to it as AI Explorer, what's to say that the new explorer is not itself Recall, which explains explorer changing if you remove Recall

    • @Mario583a
      @Mario583a 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Again, this is only a feature exclusive to Copilot+PC devices.

  • @stephencoakley
    @stephencoakley 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a software engineer who works at a medium sized software company, these things smell like product manager decisions and not developer choices to me.

  • @madmotorcyclist
    @madmotorcyclist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not yet, but will be in latter releases. Holding on 23H2.

  • @stage6fan475
    @stage6fan475 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks to you and your collaborators for doing this work. It is interesting to me how all this has revealed how little Microsoft is trusted now.

  • @wuru-ivur
    @wuru-ivur 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've always got help / nice stuff from ur videos

  • @BlackLight--z
    @BlackLight--z หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just brought a brand new PC with the Intel Core Ultra Series 2 which definitely adds recall. But those windows settings in privacy for recall, do not exist. But I did the cmd script and recall was there and enabled. So it seems Microsoft has removed the easy ability to disable, or inform users that recall exists.

  • @rhiethreal
    @rhiethreal หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you have to go in and manually change the code, then yes, it is mandatory. Keep in mind, you could previously disable telemetry in Windows with a regedit, and microsoft put out an update who's only purpose was to tell windows to ignore that registry edit.

  • @fecklesstech929
    @fecklesstech929 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Watching this video on my MX Linux machine. And yes, Microsoft deserves all the credit. I would never have discovered Linux if not for (1) Forced Microsoft Accounts (2) Un-removable Edge Browser (3) Ads in the start menu (4) OneDrive with secret file migration (5) BitLocker with secret full disk encryption (6) Forced hardware upgrade (7) And the most offensive of all: Microsoft Recall. MX is excellent. EndeavourOS is fun. It's very relaxing to use a computer that does what I want it do instead of what Micro$oft wants it to do.

  • @colton_936
    @colton_936 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Switched my primary OS to Linux a couple weeks ago. I’m not going down this road with Microsoft any further.

  • @salapolivalenta77
    @salapolivalenta77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED UM3406HA with procesor AMD Ryzen 7 8840HS and came with 23H2. FeatureName=Recall doesn't exists, I already debloat windows with winutil, I should be safe. You are the only person out there who explains everything, once you won't maintain anymore this project I will switch to linux. Thanks Chris!

  • @Avenger99
    @Avenger99 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is utter insanity. Thanks for your amazing work on winutil

  • @leonidas14775
    @leonidas14775 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Like Edge, there's a reason they're not charging extra for Recall, but making it hard to remove

  • @ruthcherry3177
    @ruthcherry3177 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for all the work and the great video!

  • @thegreatdodo5092
    @thegreatdodo5092 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Any chance of getting an in-depth guide on what MicroWin does? The documentation of most things of your tool is like a one or two liner that doesnt really explain anything to someone not coding. Which is sad, because I'd like to use MicroWin but not before I know what it removes exactly.

  • @thesilentgeneration
    @thesilentgeneration 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Exactly. My 24H2 has recall also but it is disabled. I would say watch and keep an eye on it and should Microsoft, through an update, enables Recall so you can disable it.

  • @ringo8410
    @ringo8410 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It may not be happening that *every* computer is spying on you, but the fact that Microsoft is pushing this when literally no one wants it should prompt people to start thinking about alternate OSes. This level of customer contempt should not be able to stand.

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Personally I'd like to find out what it does and how I can use it to my advantage. Just like I do other software.

  • @Staravora
    @Staravora 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Let's not get too technical. Point is they slipped it in and no one asked for it and thought no one would notice

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What gives you the idea that they thought no one would notice??

  • @billyguthrie3176
    @billyguthrie3176 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Photon Engine SDKs: In the context of game development, Photon Engine is a networking engine and multiplayer platform. Microsoft Client Photon refers to the Photon Engine SDKs for Microsoft platforms, such as Android NDK SDK, which enables developers to add multiplayer capabilities to their games. The SDKs allow for real-time communication between connected players across platforms, including iOS, Android, web, console, and standalone applications.

  • @jantheuer8717
    @jantheuer8717 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you very much for your attention Recall

  • @_cul8r_
    @_cul8r_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I use a laptop that doesn’t fit the specs for recall, so this doesn’t affect me at all right now. I don’t care any more. Just the thought of this was the final straw for me. I’ve switched completely to Linux for about 3 weeks now, and I’m very happy that Microsoft finally pushed me to dump them. Thanks for all the good info and work you and your team do. It is very much appreciated.

  • @Rudi-Brudi
    @Rudi-Brudi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Will there be an option in winutil to remove recall from an installed windows?

  • @ShyFx8
    @ShyFx8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Recall Feature is coming little by little but not fully running yet on most regular computer so most people don't think much about it.. Then it will be more and more integrated via updates on regular computers. And what happens then is that we get more and more complete computers with this Recall Ai integrated into the hardware itself so that this cannot be deactivated like the co pilot computers that are already sold. Then all motherboard manufacturers will eventually follow up by integrating some form of extended Recall/Ai functions in the motherboard that cannot be deactivated. It is easy to see where this is going.

    • @ItzMeKarizma
      @ItzMeKarizma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But you can't really implement AI on the motherboard though... People could easily use Linux or some other OS instead of Windows and then what? What will that AI function on the motherboard do? I mean, it's a possibility but I kind of doubt it.

    • @pardotkynes1
      @pardotkynes1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have already seen things like what you describe, but more on branded devices like android and apple and kindle etc. Hopefully it will be hard to pull off on un branded pcs. But it is another reason to avoid branded hardware. And make sure you know and understand what all the specs are when buying hardware for your pc

  • @niezzayt3809
    @niezzayt3809 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This dude be putting out more useful Tech Tips contents than LTT

  • @MR-co2ti
    @MR-co2ti 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I noticed under requirements that recall "pauses" when device has less than 25GB free...Can't we somehow trick recall into thinking it's always out of space?

  • @IwPlenty
    @IwPlenty 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It don't need an exe in that folder to run, the exe can be anywhere, and just refer the dll files

    • @Javich
      @Javich 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly. Not sure why @ChrisTitusTech believes it needs an exe to run

  • @MajidTariq
    @MajidTariq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With Microsoft heading towards the direction that they are currently, I just went ahead and installed nobaru Linux. Fingers crossed it keeps working smoothly.

  • @WaveringRadiant00
    @WaveringRadiant00 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    There's no way Recall will fly with government agencies. Microsoft has to implement a way to disable/uninstall it.

    • @SenileOtaku
      @SenileOtaku 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      It certainly violates HIPAA regulations.

    • @minigpracing3068
      @minigpracing3068 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LTSC does not have it or copilot.

    • @jimw7916
      @jimw7916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      hahahahahahaa what gives you the idea that gov agencies are here to help you?

    • @rubenk548
      @rubenk548 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@jimw7916 He means that this "feature" will not be allowed on government systems, or any other company with a significant security profile for that matter. So it will always need to have an ability to run without

    • @jimw7916
      @jimw7916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rubenk548 I KNOW what the EASIEST way to disable it. ............... run Linux!

  • @nakfan
    @nakfan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On the first flight, Micrsoft was the pilot monitoring...Now...Chris Titus is in the right seat as the pilot monitoring 😎

  • @PaxAlotin
    @PaxAlotin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    *The time is coming* ------------ when only the rich & powerful ---------------*will be able to afford privacy*

    • @GapRecordingsNamibia
      @GapRecordingsNamibia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No.... No they won't, they to will be spied on, they will just think they are not being watched, when you have had taste of the power that comes from extortion?????
      MS won't stop, not even for the rich and powerfull, knowladge is king, and holding dirt over someones head keeps them compliant.....
      This is only the tip of the sestpool my friend, this is only the tip that we are privy to....

    • @maurvir3197
      @maurvir3197 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I hate to break it to you, bud, but we've been there for decades already. It's just more apparent now.

    • @PaxAlotin
      @PaxAlotin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maurvir3197 I was trying to be optimistic. As a Beta Tester for Facebook - I saw the writing on the wall a long time ago. Wanna know the future - re privacy. Google is primed & ready to track ( as well as keep a record of all your key strokes) via whatever browser you are using. Using anonymity browsers like Tor or Qubes-OS just makes you stand out like a shark in a swimming pool of goldfish.

    • @Avenger99
      @Avenger99 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Linux is free you know

  • @tmyrdal
    @tmyrdal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will be cool to see if that fix will be inside the Atlas OS v 5

  • @lorinkundert
    @lorinkundert หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If not mandatory, then remove it.

  • @Herbert-f1c
    @Herbert-f1c หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My computer, manufactured in mid-2024 hasn't got Recall.

  • @Dragemesteren
    @Dragemesteren 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You for all the hard work! Allthough I am a Linux user, it is good to see that somebody is concerned about what Microsoft do!

  • @wuru-ivur
    @wuru-ivur 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you're great, I'm glad u r in the pc community

  • @MortalisPT
    @MortalisPT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If it wasn't for all this crap, 24h2 is so much faster than the older versions.
    If you debloat it feels even faster

  • @2709196008
    @2709196008 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can we have a new updated video on how to use MicroWin please

  • @ClaudeAlexandreRochatProfile
    @ClaudeAlexandreRochatProfile 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great work, thank you for all the informations. Have a nice day

  • @DevilbyMoonlight
    @DevilbyMoonlight 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could the recall functionality be buried in one of those libraries?

  • @TheBeefiestable
    @TheBeefiestable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Damn you all for being so smart and competent , thus delaying the exodus

  • @L.SoleStarbourne
    @L.SoleStarbourne หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chris, I have very quickly become a new fan of your work via your Linux videos initially! Can you please share your thoughts on Cachy OS?? People seem to be very enthused about it, and somehow your channel and website don't yield any results regarding it.

  • @techosarusrex
    @techosarusrex 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Photon afaik is tied to experience packs like Settings Home, Accounts etc.

  • @tacioandrade
    @tacioandrade 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great!!!! Thanks for this.

  • @RickTheClipper
    @RickTheClipper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Harder Microsoft tries to force Recall on me. the clearer it gets they have sinister plans

  • @iFlu
    @iFlu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome, thanks for the update

  • @Slothsnail
    @Slothsnail 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nightmare for businesses.

  • @jandraelune1
    @jandraelune1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Louis Rossmann has found that some laptops are wired in a way that if opened without first knowing there is a tiny weak needed wire, the person opening it will brick the device. This kind of malicunis has become common, the needless removal of repairablity. Like you use to be able to simply open house fans to clean nd oil them with common tools, now you need not just specialty bits, but also tools that home users will never use except for that single task.

    • @alanparsonsfan
      @alanparsonsfan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jandraeleune1 Was this a certain manufacturer or all of them do that? with the tiny wire?

  • @breadmoth6443
    @breadmoth6443 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still want to know how viable CTT's fix is when the next major update comes around?

  • @xTRTSCx
    @xTRTSCx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In my opinion this is 100% malicious. Everything worked fine without Recall before and now it's baked into those dependencies? There isn't even any justification for it, feature-wise Recall is completely independent. And even if it wasn't it still wouldn't have to be programmed this way. This was definitely a conscious, executive decision.

  • @Ev-001
    @Ev-001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Chris, Is the recall removal in your WinUtil?

  • @mikerochburns4104
    @mikerochburns4104 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So many hoops to jump through now just to get windows in a state where *I* am comfortable with it, I feel the move to Linux and the inevitable learning curve would be less hassle.

  • @drewdavis7244
    @drewdavis7244 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had to write this comment in notepad, there is a current issue with chrome firefox and other browsers, where you cannot see what you are writing in dark mode,The background is a very dark grey and the comment you are writing is black, I've not been able to find any videos on this only reddit post without any solutions,
    And i figure if anyone would have a answer to this issue it is Titus.

    • @zentrans
      @zentrans 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yup

  • @MegabyteRedSector
    @MegabyteRedSector 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ...honestly I don't care if it's active or not. The fact that it's included puts the writing on the wall. Whenever a system goes to 24H2, Im replacing Windows with Bazzite.

  • @timinwsac
    @timinwsac 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Got tired of all the windows drama and switched to linux a couple of month ago.

  • @ultraprimez
    @ultraprimez 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Linux was never perfect but now days MS Win11 24H2 is helping pepz move on and choose a Linux Distro as a Primary or secondary option. Not great for newbies but still something to look forward as a primary option for the masses. Well nothing is Perfect or Forever in this Universe.

  • @ItzMeKarizma
    @ItzMeKarizma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Personally, the best decision I've ever made was to ditch Windows forever. I liked how MacOS looked but it was too expensive for the "under-powered" Apple hardware you get (price to performance) so I thought about using Linux on my main PC. Since that day, I've been happier and I can say that I've never regretted my decision. One thing I noticed though is that... most of the students that have Linux are quite knowledgeable about their device (I guess that's to be expected though with the tinkering you have to do to customize it to your liking :P).

    • @pardotkynes1
      @pardotkynes1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It took me a few hours the first time to get Linux to recognize my graphics card, and another hour to convince it my monitor wasn't half the size it actually was. That was quite a few years back, though Linux has come a long way. But it still helps to be willing to get your hands in the wires a bit.

  • @jameswagster8329
    @jameswagster8329 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great for government to get info on ppl