I can agree with your video 100%. It takes time to actually "know" what you will and will not use in your system - but once you have a routine and a suite of tools you trust - your Linux installs become minimal and powerful! But we all know we cannot recommend stuff like this to newcomers as it would ruin their experience
@@DJDocsVideos This is exactly what I use lol. Thunderbird, LibreWolf, Notepad++, Solitaire and Rommé. That's all I have installed and that's all I ever need. Everything else is nonsense to me.
@@DJDocsVideos Irrelevant, because even that can be a hassle on Linux. I tried years ago to dual boot Mint, but when basic stuff like a driver for my USB WiFi dongle don''t work and require tinkering, that's when you lose most people. Windows is at least functional, and almost anything you don't like can be tweaked if you are a power user.
We need more videos like this to be honest. the more these pain-points get exposed, the more likely they are to get fixed later down the line. and if work-arounds exist, they might get highlighted too. That's all everyone really wants at the end of the day, right? To make linux a better experience today/tomorrow than it was yesterday? Well.. I'd like to think so anyways.
I'd rather have pain points from people who are not power user. These kinds of videos from Linux channels happen about 12 times per minute and it's always the same thing over and over...Usually with people that use some sort of tiling manager.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino if all you find are linux videos from power users, and you yourself aren't a power user, and you want videos from non-power users to exist. . . consider making videos yourself? You feel there is a vacancy, so fill it. Just an idea. 🤷
Unfortunately, I'm afraid that even if someone nailed the Ninety-Five Theses to the door of the GNU church, the Linux community would become defensive, deny reality, declare that GNU+Linux is perfect and refuse to improve it's biggest issues. Linux community is the biggest detriment to the widespread adaptation of the Linux desktop. The worst part, they think it's a good thing and that Windows users should just adapt to all the issues they've learned to live with, and as a Windows user, I'd rather do the same with Windows than deal with the Linux community.
@@supra107 Just try to remember that while those types are very loud, they are in fact the minority of users. They primarily are found in the gentoo community from my experience. You'll find a few in the arch community too, but it's mostly the gentoo community as a whole.
@@imzesok In my experience, saying that it's just the Gentoo crowd or the Arch crowd or some other marginal group is a cope. If they are a fringe minority, then either the true Linux community doesn't do their due diligence to show the true welcoming side of the Linux community, or it's simply not true and it's a fringe majority. You can go under any comment section of a video or an article or whatever talking about Windows issues and chances are you will find a smug Linux user telling people they should use Linux. Like a vegan smugly stating they eat vegetables only or a cyclist stating that he's not polluting the environment by cycling. This is the image of the Linux community that I know because it's the one that I see the most, so if the true Linux community truly is an understanding, open and helpful community, they should work on improving their image to be exactly that.
It is very true, Linux isn't all sunshine and rainbows, and everything working... But, once I got everything working under Linux, I started to do the same thing under Windows as well, and realized that I often had to spend time tinkering, searching out solutions there as well, and when I accounted for that... They BOTH weren't sunshine and rainbows...
Some truth there, though with this current linux config, he'll never have to deal with the tinkering again. There's no win12 (errr um sorry, no win10/11 update) to come along and force a new tweak(s). And if he was on a more stable distro, the move between KDE/Gnome versions would probably have been more smooth. Though then he likely would have lost some game compat... so building own DWM for the win.
That's the cold hard truth. Both Windows and Linux have their own subset of problems you need to deal with, and both have different strengths and weaknesses in specific applications. Windows is great as a desktop OS, Linux is great as a server OS, or as something like Proxmox for virtualized servers. However, only one userbase insists that their OS of choice is perfect, has zero issues, that everyone should move to it at an instant and that it's just like the more popular option, only to then start being all defensive and deflective once people encounter the myriads of issues they've taken for granted and accepted as something normal that doesn't have to be fixed, at the detriment of the users of the more popular option that are desperately looking for an alternative as their OS of choice is getting worse and worse.
Here's the secret for linuxland: set the bar low. I run a similar system as what Chris is running now (rolling release distro with openbox instead of DWM) and fully share his experience aside from the gpu: my AMD7000 card is running great. Now don't get me wrong. The learning curve is steep. But now that I'm there, it's turned into a nearly painless situation and I have zero desire to switch things up (be it distro or overall config). Where I DO see folks having trouble is the wayland/pipewire crowd (though again, my pipewire is running great). If you want to "bleeding edge" things, then yeah you're gonna have a rough time. Overall, it certainly is a panic-filled scenario right now. Thanks, microsoft.
For me Linux quite literally just works It's always funny watching people who mess around with absolutely every single setting, trying to customise everything complain that they break their OS and that it doesn't just work out the box All I do is game and use a browser, if that's all you're doing it will just work
yeah the issue with linux is it's great on the server trash as a desktop it's great as a browser box but anything more than that is just painful compared to macOS or windows unless you are a dev (which i am) linux suffers from bad support , excessive choice , poor QC and testing , elitism & i rather use a bloated copilot+ PC that will fix it self after a bad update rather than brick my installation and use grub shell
Well, technically speaking, he's not entirely wrong. If you know what you're doing, if you don't install too much bloat on your system (packages you never end up using at all, or something like that), and if you properly maintain your system, you can pretty much run it forever with very little to no issue. It's all about not doing anything too crazy with your system, be careful, and maintain it properly
@@johncombo Which is an inherent problem in monolithic style kernels. Im waiting on RedoxOS to mature more, (wish the redox dev would have chosen the SeL4 kernel)
This is the reason why I still spend most of my time in Windows, something around 80 or 85% and the rest on Linux. I consider myself a power user, I'd been a Windows Server, VMware and Citrix administrator for 15 years until I moved into an IT management role. I have a home server running Debian 12 but my main workstation and desktop computers are both running Windows 10 due to the easy of configuration. I just simply don't have the time to investigate every single issue that Linux currently presents to me, I need to use my computers for work, I don't have the luxury of having spare time to search for workarounds, test them, search for more alternatives when those workarounds don't work as expected, and so on. I barely have time for entertainment when I'm at home and I don't want to spend that time trying to fix things either. I still installed Linux on my parents PC as, like Chris said, it's suitable for people who only use their computers for casual, online tasks such as reading the news, checking emails or the weather, shopping, etcetera.
100% i got older and don't have time to tinker all weekend or week night with linux driver or configuration issues. been there, done that, got the t-shirt! windows with WSL2 is good enough for me now!
A computer that's connected to the internet is pretty much USELESS today. If you have the wrong Linux distro, Then of course you're going to Have issues.
In fact I'm a power user and I'm trying to use Linux as my daily driver for years. I don't have time to deal with many problems Linux has, specifically with application compatibility and drivers issues. I am right now reinstalling my copy o Windows 11 removing any Linux thar has on my Nvme. Will stick to WSL for whatever I need on Linux.
@MrX-vk1jl Linux is King right now. Everything will be digital soon including Money.. There's no way any commercial operating systems can be trusted. Artificial intelligence is just another way for big tech to over ride copyright protection.
I appreciate the honesty! I think "Linux just works" only applies in the best case scenarios for the most vanilla users. Wayland being the default is good.... now someone has to fix all the broken stuff for all the vanilla users.
I often hear it in ircs for distros: "you can't expect no issues because you're not running a standard system," where you've done any customisation at all. It's all about choice, but your choices will probably cause problems and the community is very opinionated on which choices are "correct."
@@NotLegato so accurate. vanilla linux is just like jenga. customizations are fun, yet precarious. (and everyone is standing around judging your choices.)
@@bigrob029 Usually they're fine if you sort of know what you're doing, but you gotta be very careful. I timeshift my system before every update, once a week. Now that we're on Plasma 6, it's not gonna break too badly until they hit 7, which should be a long time from now. Hopefully.
@@bigrob029 It takes about 17-20 gigs for me. I keep one snapshot and delete it when I take another just before an update. Make sure you exclude all home stuff and also any flatpaks/snaps you might have, cause those take a lot of space. Mine are in /var/lib/flatpak. I don't schedule it because I want to spare the NVME and also only keep it as an "oh shit my update broke" tool.
At the end of this video (and elsewhere of course) you said something important: People who try Linux and run into some problem, stop there. I think this is because they have learned from Windows or macOS that there is nothing the user can do about it. With Linux, one must change their way of thinking completely. Help is available and most often there is another way to accomplish the same thing.
I guess that's why I've been fine with Linux, because even on Windows I've been a tinkerer for years, getting some games that have issues to run better, changing things about Windows itself, going into hidden settings, going into the group policy editor, going into the registry, because I can't stand the Windows defaults, and sometimes some Windows default setting combined with some games and the gpu drivers can cause problems, like Windows thinking the gpu driver has crashed and killing the process just because a game has a spot where the gpu winds down alot for a minute, super annoying, but changing the tdr window so it waits slightly longer before killing the process fixes this issue, whilst most people I know would just blame the game or Windows and stop playing that game. I see it as a challenge to change things they don't want you to change, to change things they don't give you easy access to, to fix things other people think are hopeless. Of course things are quite a bit different on Linux vs Windows, but I feel already being a tinkerer pushing boundaries on Windows is the best mindset to have if you want to switch to Linux, because you already do not assume everything will work the way you want it to, you are already prepared to tinker with the system and figure out ways to make it work as you want it to, that mindset I feel is helping me work with Linux now.
Tried Linux in 99, 2004, 2011, 2019, 2022. Every time either the network (wi-fi/Ethernet), Video, or Audio would not work. I have wanted to change, but Linux keeps pushing me away.
@@Danny-bd1ch That is exactly my experience. You spend days and weeks figuring out driver problems, then you get 90% to work but some important thing will simply not work and you go back to Windows or Mac
Switched to Linux on my gaming PC last weekend. Arch+Wayland+Hyprland on Nvidia. Running Mint+X11+i3 on various older laptops. The great thing about it all is choice. And really the only thing I still need to dual-boot windows for is some VMWare stuff (Horizon...) and DCS in VR.
VMware supports Linux natively though. VR depends on your GPU and headset, but generally, it's a no. I can play VR inside a Windows VM with PCI passthrough, though!
Why limit yourself with Linux is allways the conclusion I come to after running it as a desktop for a few months, there is no hdr or vrr support and many other software and hardware limitiations.
Desktop Linux greatest strength and biggest weakness is that almost nothing is standardized. Just the fact that there are different audioservers, display servers, package managers, init systems, c library implementations(!), ... . It can be great if have the time and motivation to learn all of that stuff, but it creates so much issues when it comes compatibility and just downloading something and expecting it to just work. I really think its for those "powerusers" like me that are in the top 50 - 99% of computer literacy that struggle with this. If you are in the bottom 50% and need a browser, music player and email client, you never have to deal with this, but if you need more niche software or use some non common hardware... yeah!
Well that's the cost of freedom and doing things a non standardized way/not enforcing a particular architecture. Also, there may be no official standards but at least main stream software that will work on the majority of Linux systems like pipewire, gnu tools (glibc although still error prone in some ways), systemd (controversial but still widely used) and at least wrapper libraries to cope with the transition from X11 to Wayland. Packagingwise debs are pretty universal (arch pkgs are just repackaged) and otherwise flatpaks and AppImages are pretty universal too. You could even go so far and just provide docker containers with the proper config, then it's even more universal. In the end every software has it's unique dependencies, Windows and MacOS have a similar problem in the end by requiring certain frameworks to be installed (.NET and co.). In the end it's always the question who your target audience is and what type of Linux distro the majority is using.
@@l.h.503 that's not freedom. Standards agreed by everyone is a good thing and are usually just specifications on how things should work, but implementation can be different.
The chaos of the bazaar model in Linux is why I just stopped using it for most stuff. Like you said, it has its ups and downs. I’ve grown tired of the ever changing landscape. The BSDs have old software but they enhance it. Linux just replaced it. I don’t want to know what’s coming after Pipewire in the next 10 years
This is why i never recommend a distro aside from Linux Mint or at least some other Debian-based distro. Even for a power user like I (engineer), the non standardized crap in linux is really infuriating. So why would i bother with or recommend anything else except for the most popular and therefore most standardized distro?
@@connivingkhajiit Depends on what your aim is I guess. If you want to run very up to date or niche software it quickly gets more difficult to get that on LM than on a rolling release with some "source building system" like arch and the aur for example. If you have big security needs you also wouldn't go for things like glibc, sudo, X11 or other software with bigger codebases than needed bc it introduces unnecessary risk for bugs. The casual user of course would be completely fine with popular distros like Linux Mint and the engineer who needs a stable system without special needs either.
I went the Jeff Geerling route. All my hobby kit runs Linux. All my servers are Linux. My daily driver is MacOS because I don’t want to spend time fixing my own computer. Before that I ran gentoo with a custom desktop. Initially I hated macOS because I could not set it up as I liked, it is what it is. Once I stopped fighting it I realised being unable to tweak it made me stop chasing the perfect desktop. I just do what I need to do, which is generally terminal and vscode. It never breaks, audio is always solid, the display is crisp, it stays out of my way. I’m glad you’ve got a great setup for you, but for me paying the apple tax is worth it to stop me spending all my time tinkering with my OS and desktop!
@@k00bly26 have they though? Just trying to configure sddm from the settings now results in a completely broken sddm for me and getting kicked into tty. At this point I'm convinced both gnome and plasma just need to die if we want the Linux desktop to actually work.
@@donkey7921 Ugh no. We need simple to use desktops for the everyday computer user. I can't imagine my parents trying to use a window manager, but they can't tell the difference between KDE, GNOME ( with extensions ) and Windows, it's all the same for them.
@@donkey7921As much as I hate gnome, they are the only properly polished desktop environment with consistent UI standards. That kind of stuff matters, because first impressions are more important than how actually useful or powerful the software is. Do people actually want to use your software? Well, you have to make it look inviting them.
I appreciate your videos, how in-depth you go. I'm a recent transplant from Windows to Linux (Mint) after trying years ago with zero success. My use case has changed, I'm not trying to set the world on fire with games anymore and I like something that just... works. Linux fits that need. I'm trying to learn, but boy there is a learning curve. I'm dual booting at the moment, just in case I do need anything from Windows, or boot in to play a game or two that isn't supported on Linux, but have only been back to Windows a handful of times over the last two months. I'm just struggling to figure out how to tinker without breaking things. Because once I break them, it's a system wipe - I don't know how to fix them, obviously! But your videos inspire me to become a better user, I enjoy how clean and quick your system looks, how stable it appears, and how it just... works. I'll continue watching your videos and seek out some tips on how to go from "noob" to "power user" and continue to give it my best!
This video is a masterpiece. Simultaneously showcasing both the PEAK of Linux systems and the worst part which is we're not CTT to do all of that 🤣 I love it.
My problems whenever I tried switching to Linux permanently has always been audio related. If I get it working right on desktop, it doesn't work right in-game. If I get it working in-game it has problems with equalizers, headset output not working or some combination of the above. And from my experience trying to get help on the topic nobody wants to help deal with it beyond the very basic troubleshoot.
Tbh I used to have terrible problems with Linux audio, but since pipewire was implemented, it all has been a breeze. I not only listen to music, I also produce. I'm even using vst plugins via wine.
It has gotten better with pipewire, but its still not great. I still have to do stuff like either manually, or using pavucontrol, bind output to particular applications. Nothing remembers by default. Also, the lack of a normal built in equalizer or volume normalizer like WIndows is really annoying. I tend to use something called JamesDSP for that stuff.
There's a lot with Linux audio that's a mystery to me. I just am glad when sound works. How well sound works is often down to what hardware you're trying to use. Some is supported better than others.
That's because Pulseaudio is a janky, unreliable 20-year-old piece of software that simply cannot be made to work under some circumstances. The sooner distros and software make the switch to Pipewire, the better.
I am using two different dedicated computers to overcome this inconvenience. One with a x3d cpu optimised for gaming, the other with high core count cpu for production. For now that is how I avoid headaches.
Finally, some honesty about Linux. and not just people raving about how easy it is and glossing over problems as if they're minor things. While in my experience it is somewhat true that if you just have /basic/ user requirements like running a browser or libreoffice or GiMP it /is/ pretty straight-forward to run Linux in my limited experience. I'm fairly certain if I could get it setup for him, even my barely computer-literate brother could mostly run it as a daily driver since he only really uses firefox, a word processor, and sometimes minecraft. However like in this video I /am/ a power-user, have been that way in windows for years. And going from an high-level user of windows to Linux is like stepping onto an alien planet, or at the very least into a foreign country with a different language you barely understand and different customs and ways of doing things. I've run into /many/ bugs trying to tweak linux how I want it to work, or how I'm used to using a computer, and since I've gotten used to a very custom setup that I literally spent years scripting and tweaking, and I have little to no idea where to even get started on some of it on Linux because the same software doesn't exist, and will not work properly under WINE due to sandboxing not really allowing you to make global tweaks to your system. Also the /constantly/ trying to do something only to realize I don't have permission and need to re-launch something with sudo and make all the edits from scratch and/or enter my password again and again and again. My most common thing I miss is AutoHotkey, as all the macro software I've tried on Linux just pales in comparison even the attempted linux ports are missing tons of what I consider basic functionality. No blocking key events, no capslock/scrolllock/numlock control, no ability to setup a hotkey for only the left/right modifier key, no having the hotkeys be dependent on what window you're in. And that's not even starting on trying to script my custom interactive stuff like making a popup menu for doing operations on the clipboard. The only stuff I can find online says something about trying a python library and making a python script, though I can't tell if the library actually only detects input events or if it allows you to block and override them. Heck, I'm not even sure if Linux architecture even allows something like the Windows Global Keyboard Hook which Autohotkey relies on to work. I had some limited success with some of my basic hotkeys by tweaking config files and using a couple different programs, but it was spread-out, unstable and a rather cludged together mess, metaphorically held together with gum. It was far from centralized and easy to implement/change or reliable. The one software only let the hotkey work the first few presses before it reverted back to default behavior. underwhelming
The biggest thing I have always appreciated is the fact that you change your stances on stuff so much! 😂 But it's valuable. I like hearing and seeing both of what has worked and what hasn't worked for you after so many years, it's always been insightful. Might not be everyone's cup of tea but I have no issue with it. On a side note, sad about your 7800XT not being fully utilized, it's quite bizarre. I'm running a 7900XTX and average on 98% utilization for games. ( I have a VM with an A5000 passed through as well). Keep up the great content.
A bit of a nooby question from a Linux-veteran: How do you measure the utilization of your graphics card? Do you use the GALLIUM_HUD or something like it for this purpose? I never found a tool like nvidia-smi for AMD, so would naturally be curious about using one for my 6800XT...
I'd be willing to check this out myself also. Am running a 4090 in my main rig but have a 7800XT & 7900XTX but I mostly watch movies and game, so it's a different workload.
I appreciate the video. I have to say I'm a bit disappointed to hear about your AMD troubles. My workstation PC has been on Ubuntu for several months now, and since 24.04 I haven't touched my Windows partition.. to the point I'm considering reclaiming the drive space. I'm making the switch on my gaming PC this week.. but it has a 7900XT that I'm quite happy with. I suppose we'll see! I've been around since the MS DOS, Windows 3.1 days so maybe a return to the command line is in my future? Thanks for taking the time to document your experiences.
@@tecknogyk I hope so. I'm trying it out either way, and I care more about how things look on my screen than what the utilization numbers show. I tend to limit my frame rates to my screen refresh, and since moving to this card it typically never gets to 100% utilization.
AMD open source drivers are by and large not bad, where you run into problems is with OpenCL & GPU compute workloads. Here you need to use propriety drivers as Clover is too old and broken and as for RustCL... Problem is AMD seems to have developed the "sucks to be you!" attitude towards Linux users, to the point that my next card will be Nvida. I need OpenCL and if AMD support is going to be patchy to non-existent then my money's going elsewhere.
In my experience, for general desktop use in Linux AMD cards are best, for gaming it's more even, and AMD seems to get better all the time, but for GPU compute loads or any proprietary video software like DaVinci Resolve, you are better off with NVIDIA. I still would like to see the open source software/driver stack for OpenCL on AMD to get up to speed, but there doesn't seem to be enough interest at the moment. Even if it did, that doesn't mean proprietary software would start making use of it.
@@l.h.503 it's already here in plasma 6 you can test it in Kde Neon or Arch and for gaming the Nobara project supports it on Arch and Fedora and on PikaOs in a beta state which i tested and once i got it working it was great
KDE is good, but it isn't perfect for fractional scaling. Some apps run natively at 1.5x, some render at 2x and scale down. I'd rather it be one or the other, not both. Either render everything at 2x and scale down, or just render natively. Windows for 99% of apps renders natively at 1.5x, the same cannot be said of KDE on Wayland. Of course, I'm not even a Windows user, I prefer macOS on my laptop, and I dual boot macOS and KDE on Wayland on a system with a Low DPI screen. Now in the defense of Linux, Cinnamon and GNOME can render at 2x and scale down all apps (GNOME 47 fixed the issue where Xwayland would cause blurring). So I'd say fractional scaling has already improved in the Linux world since I wrote my comment 4 months ago. But of all the OSes, Windows by far has the most modern software with out of the box native fractional scaling. But nowdays, KDE works as well as Windows for most users looking to use Linux.
I've been a Windows user since I was a kid, but 11 is so bad I decided to give Linux a chance, and know what I really like Linux Mint! Still getting used to it, of course. Linux Mint feels like the best introduction for Windows users to switch to Linux, and when more comfortable, switch to a better distro of their choice.
Its really the best place to start and promoted as such for good reason. If you want to learn more you can move to arch later, but its really not necessary. If you ever get to the point where you're unable to find applications in mint/ubuntu repo and you get sick of compiling your own apps, you might try an arch-based distro, but aside from that, Mint is as good as it gets.
yup i agree fully to this and it's really what you want to do with your system, linux is just the do whatever you want with it without limitations basically but of course you gotta know what you are doing. Also i would suggest to read arch wiki or from the interwebs about how the linux filesystem works and what are all the folders for. That really helps you to understand why linux works the way it does!
Windows 11 is such a flaming tire fire, you litterally couldn't have switched at a better time, to a better distro. This is coming from an MCSE/MCITP & I happily run Linux with all Windows box's now just VM's. Im working on AWS anyway so I could use a Chrome book only (god help me) if I wanted to.
Chris one thing I love about DWM and windows managers that use Xorg xrandr is the ability to set --pos 0x0 for a seperate capture card set to a lower refresh rate than the application you're capturing on your main display. I then pipe my audio out the HDMI output with an OBS instance. Then my streaming PC handles the streaming/recording. It's amazing... Why desktop environments struggle to display the same content with varying refresh rates boggles my mind.. or how does DWM or other window managers do this it's complete magic.
@christitus - Can you please create a post regarding DWM install on fresh debian (with no desktop environment), Also what are the dependencies to be installed before DWM install and What are the essential softwares you installed for the basic/normal day to day use...
I had lots of problems associated with steam proton's fullscreen mode. Since it's not an actual fullscreen (wine emulates it by scaling the window to avoid changing the actual desktop resolution), mouse input breaks in some games and scaling looks terrible, especially fonts. I don't even know what it is, but fonts look much better when they're in actual fullscreen mode and there's no option to force that.
This is the kind of video I was hoping someone would make. Audio drivers and frame rate mismatches for my multi-moditor setup that didn't work out of the box were two of my major issues, I hadn't even gotten far enough to figure out how to get resolve working. With NVIDIA Linux support improving, this will be really helpful to me, thanks.
@@1pcfred NVIDIA's policy has very little to do with it. Feature parity with windows on available drivers, open source and proprietary, has improved significantly lately.
@@Doc4 Nvidia has always had a parity policy. At one time Linux could run 4 monitors and Windows only 3 so Nvidia gimped the Linux driver. See, parity!
@@1pcfred Yes, but with the current state of open source drivers, performance is starting to look more competitive. Edge cases and clear software limitations may become less frequent over time than in the past.
The Opus tipp was a banger. I started Audio editing and for a friend who wants to start youtube. It is kind of a pain in the low point on linux. I was kind of thinking about davinci resolve but I guess I stick to audacity since I do not want to uninstall my DE. But yeah I will look into Opus thanks a lot.
Xorg does not "just work" in my experience. I always have screen tearing even with TearFree set true. Wayland is more reponsive overall and never tears.
The only tearing I ever had in xorg was with nvidia, and it is using resolved with forcing full compsition pipeline. With radeon, never experienced but in some instances, I find disabling the kde compositor (ctrl+f12) can improve things.
My screen never tears. So I guess it's just you. I've never even heard of TearFree. Because I've never needed to. Maybe Wayland is more responsive but X is imperceptible to me as it is. I'd have to measure the response time with some kind of software that can characterize time slices I cannot. Basically WTF are you even talking about?
@@1pcfred Basically different people might have different hardware and software configurations, but I'm sure this has never crossed your mind. Xorg is just one piece of the puzzle.
5:39 Resolve is an Electron app, btw. And it's biggest issue when it comes to AMD under Linux is it requires nvidia drivers and cuda to be installed even if you don't have a nvidia card in your system.
I'm on Tumbleweed and since I installed the 555 beta drivers I've had a almost flawless Wayland experience on Plasma 6. I only say almost because on waking from sleep mode the desktop environment does not recover correctly and I have to reboot. For me that's a small price to pay.
@@skorne7682 Yes on Tumbleweed I get a black screen, but everything is still there and i can see where the cursor changes for the password input, so i just click there and type it and enter LOOL
I am trying to switch to Linux from Windows 10 for years now. Today I tried debian 12.5 but even things like the clipboard manager or remote desktop are laughable. Not to speak of Autohotkey. And the speed is worse. I was a Mac fanboy from 1993 to 2007 but right now, I think Windows 10 is the best for medium desktop power users and Linux for servers. I like your idea to get rid of the whole desktop and use the terminal. What file manager are you using? In Windows 10 I use Opus and I think it is the best.
Windows can also break a lot when going through extended periods of major updates at once. It's probably some flaw of more complex desktop environments in general. I took out my windows laptop that I haven't used for a year one and a half weeks ago, let it update... And it completely broke everything. Explorer exe didn't even work. I just made a clean Windows install because screw dealing with that.
Thanks for always talking about Linux and helping people understand its potential and weaknesses. For now i'm still on Windows on my main system simply because i want something that just works, but i got a second system (a laptop) with Linux to fiddle around and learn, and so far very few things didn't work as expected.
This was great... I'm a new pop os 22.04 user and I like it. I'd love you to relate your Linux gaming experience and tips some time. I'm reading your posts under your Linux section about gaming :-) I'm looking forward to Cosmic. The choice of floating and tiled window managers is really good.. Nice keyboard shortcuts to get around. it seems really quick and getting rid of windows at home has been great. Being able to ssh between machines is so much easier than farting around with slow windows networking. Even the remote desktop sharing is so good. Also the USB audio works really well with my external DAC. But I've found getting games going a headache. I have lots on GOG, Epic and Steam.. I've messed around with Bottles, Heroic, Steam and Lutris and haven't had a lot of success. A few games work but most don't. I'm using the nvidia version of pop os 22.04 and my gtx 1080 does its thing. It would be great to have a single approach where I'm doing the same thing to organise and play games.. at the moment it seems pretty fragmented.
New linux user here (at least as a daily driver) with a Nvidia card. I can definitely agree that wayland is causing a lot of flickering and other issues. Since I've gone away from KDE and wayland I have less issues like that. Also as a power user I love timeshift, it has saved me a lot these days. Now that I'm commenting I wanna say, I appreciate your videos and what you do for this community, your windows utility is a fantastic tool
This is interesting. I've had no problem running Helldiver's with my AMD 7900 on Fedora. The problem I have is my NIC suddenly decides to fail on me and lose connection to my router. Wi-Fi is a little more stable but does occasionally disconnect as well. I've tried looking up diagnosis but no solution for that
2:21 This is exactly why I am not on Arch anymore, updates would cause issues too often. I switched to Debian 12 and stayed there for at least a year, but on Debian I had opposite issues, I assume cause of too old NVIDIA driver, for example CS 2 would just freeze as soon as I shoot something, while on Arch it worked just fine(had both systems installed for some time, so I could test it). Then I went for golden middle ground and I am on Fedora now, no issues with rolling release updates, nor with too old versions. I've assumed Fedora 39 would have less issues than newest Fedora 40, so I am on 39 and will switch to 40 once 39 reaches EOL.
I've been using Nvidia and Xorg for 10 years. Everything works fine. Resolve has always worked well for me, but I switched all my video/audio editing workflow on an Apple Silicon Mac. I've used tiling window managers, and various DEs. GNOME has always been the one that gave me less issues. I recently switched to KDE Plasma just to try it out after years. It was semidecent until the upgrade to Plasma 6, which is garbage...I think all the issues in Linux desktop boil down to the DE and the audio stack. So far I've been very happy with the switch to pipewire, but I think I'll nuke any DE and move to dwm myself (and stay on Xorg) since I'm learning C anyways
The only reason I haven't switched yet is I still haven't figured out how to properly route audio and MIDI in Linux, and just trying to get anything working right ends with me inevitably breaking something...losing time and money in the process, so I get forced into going back to Windows to get any audio work done. Something on the insanity of Linux audio, and how to properly navigate it in a pro-audio setting would be a great video!
Also, DON'T use pulseaudio, that crap is older than my grandma, if yo wanna pulse/jack support in pipewire, install pipewire-jack & pipewire-pulse. Also for midi I should encourage the install of pipewire-alsa, alsa-lib, alsa-tools & alsa-plugins.
Hi Chris, on the subject of AMD, how could you tell that your 7800 was not being used to its fullest? Please note that I am new to this and currently running Ubuntu 24.04 K:6.8.0-35-generic.
One of my personal issues with most distros is the coupling together of OS and Application package management. You can decouple them by using multiple package managers, flatpaks, or even manually installing and you will generally have a more stable experience.
As with most with Linux usage, the desire is to keep using the latest and greatest without real consideration for stability. As Chris even said, "I had issues upgrading from Plasma 5 to 6". There's no reason to do that if you want stability! That's tinkering. Stick with LTS's and stable versions and you'll typically be just fine!
No, you should be able to update software. We have Alpha,Beta & RC designations for software for a reason, dont release software as Stable when its only a Release Candidate.
Very dated packages is a problem. I run Linux Mint, and know they love stability. But when Okular is some 4 versions behind, or LibreOffice is behind, it means I miss features and bug fixes. Now I'm trying out Fedora 40 as a live USB to see what nightmares I can have on a much more current distro that is "bleeding edge".
I highly recommend arch over fedora. I'm just one random voice on the internet, but I've tried fedora multiple times on several computers with both intel/amd and nvidia/radeon hardware, and had problems every single time that just didn't exist on debian or arch.
0:45 My cousin who just uses her laptop for office stuff, websurfing and maybe a casual game or two can in fact use Linux and it just works. I told her I won‘t give her any technical support on Windows, she was ok with trying Linux so I installed ZorinOS. Since then she has been using it (>3 years) at home and school and all support stuff is like „can you setup my wifi“ of „can I install X“ maybe one a year. Basically the same as it used to be on Windows. But yes, power users will break it in a few weeks, such is life.
I sort of cringe when I watch these videos because I think that sometimes these guys think most people who use Linux are like them. I would say a tiny minority fall into that category. For the vast majority...it does just work. I think most people who use Linux are tinkerers. That's one of the best parts is that you can customize it to your liking, but most people are not going to this extreme and it might turn people off who have never used it before from even wanting to try it.
can't help but feel like you're doing the very same thing you're pointing out with this comment, because I can tell you, that's simply not the case from my personal experience and a whole lot of other people. sure, MOST things will just work. there are somethings that simply don't. all these videos do, is point out the stuff that doesn't. just remember that it may "just work" with your current hardware and software configuration, but don't take that to mean that it's at all common. 😉
@@imzesokbut the point is Titus spent 5 years getting the “perfect” setup with having to do a bunch of shit the avg person will never be able to understand
@@tttomtxhc i'm sure you think it is the point. within the context of the video, it's really not as relevant as you might think. He had a problem.. he pointed it out, and that the narrative that "just switch to linux everything works fine" is just demonstrably false. the OPs point was actually "don't tell people that some people have problems under linux! they might not switch because of it!" genuinely try watching the video first.
This thing of most people don't break anything is just a complete lie, there is ppl that just open the browser, but most people who actually work or use a computer every day will install crap manually, have bespoke little tools and a specific setup, even on windows
Its funny how my system is nearly the polar opposite. Removed xorg entirely whereever possible (as in the xorg drivers), trying to remove alsa and pulse whete ever possible too and using the Piper wire bridge if needed. And instead of arch using fedora. But just like his system luckily i rarely ever need to tinker anything except wine, though for wine all i need to do is clean out the prefix and or reinstall wine, though this hasn't been needed for a good while
I just think you SHOULD NOT remove alsa support, that's bc pipewire kinda needs alsa-tools & plugins. I think how you use arch, you probally know about pipewire-pulse, pipewire-jack & pipewire-alsa. (Also don't forget to install wireplumber)
@@Wonback people don't go or return to anything, they use whatever OS that comes preinstalled with their device. the portion of users that actually install their own OS by themselves is so minuscule it's barely a blip on the radar.
Wayland is not production ready, and I don't know why distribs switch to it by default. XWayland is not X11 it works awful. If you don't use 3D-graphics, and Wine for some apps which has no Linux counterpart - you can use Wayland maybe (I - don't, because I'm sticking to Nvidia).
Really nice and all, but have you been able to solve the long standing problem of videos being decoded on the CPU rather than the dedicated decoders on GPUS when viewed in browsers?
What, linux has problems too?.nah.thats impossible.all those videos that get recommended to me says that linux is perfect and better than every other os that exists.
@@ryan3128 i lnow that.its those dang linux TH-camrs that sells it so hard int heir title and thumbnails.the biggest offender is the brodie guy.go onto his channel and check the titles and thumbnails, and tell me that's not cring.
I had to go back to X and pulseaudio as well, for many of the same reasons you ran into. Hyprland (wlroots 0.7+) and audio (recent pipewire) don't work in VMs anymore. An alternative to dwm is DK wm which is only a 140K binary but has many of the patches (built in and configurable externally) that you would normally apply to dwm. The only thing I miss is the wayland foot terminal, which is lightweight and has sixel support.
Since you asked for linux gripes, here we go. A few driver versions ago nvidia introduced a laptop feature to desktop, so called runtime D3 (RTD3). This allows you gpu to fully power down when not in use, now for home server applications this is great! The feature promises to drop you nvidia card from something like 14 watts to basically 0. However I for the life of me cannot get it to work, if you ever get the chance, do take a look at this feature. I am especially interested in how to enable it on a motherboard that doesn't have the right ACPI calls implemented by the board vendor. Perhaps by patching the DSDT of SSDT tables.
This is the greatest strength and sometimes the biggest roadblock to new users, choice. You can have a bog standard distro with KDE loaded up for grandma and it'll be a "just works" bootloader for a web browser. Or you can go with an ultra minimalist custom kernel riced set up that's almost a server like this. It can be intimidating for perspective users to sift through but it's amazing to have al those options.
Chris, hope you will make an answer in some form about other Linux issue which is RGB light on every component and how to manage it. AFAIK openRGB is the way but its far less stable and not really works on any system
The uber-SA's in our shop use a setup just like yours. I never went that far, but I've also never had any of the DE issues you mention. I run a custom-compiled CRUX kernel and XFCE4 for the window manager. The system has been utterly stable for 15 years. Your presentation has me wondering about exploring possible benefits of a DWM config. Thanks.
The biggest hurdle for migration from Windows to Linux from my new experience is setting up for gaming and managing drives. Lots of people are put off by having to type commands. And the click to install doesn't always work. Case in point, I have set up a dual boot system on the C: drive but it won't allow me to select an external drive to download games, nor will it accept game files on the Windows side. Used Steam, Lutris, and Proton with no luck. Looking for steps online just digs a never-ending hole. Windows is a simple click to download and a click to install. Linux is a nightmare. The "convenience" factor is not there and that is what is holding the OS back.
Chris, my biggest problem with Linux is that when I break something, and I mean really break it, I reinstall. I spend a TON of time reinstalling every time I break something. I think what the people (me, I'm the people) need is to know how to undo the dumb thing so we can start back at the beginning and try again. How do I uninstall everything I did in the last hour. How do I undo whatever a script I tried to run just did effectively uninstalling the script? Sure, I can get things set up the way I want but then I'm not allowed to screw around because I'll be reinstalling again. It hurts me. If you don't see this or don't want to make a video that's cool, I just needed to vent. Thanks for the video. I'm going to go break more stuff.
Use timeshift :) works with btrfs and ext4 (rsync) everytime you do a bigger update or install something completely new you just create a snapshot with timeshift. In case something doesn't work simply restore the snapshot, reboot and you'll have a working setup again
I have 2 simple problems and 1 difficult problem. 1. I have spent 20 years switching language with alt+shift. I find it more comfortable and it's muscle memory at this point. How do I make this work in Linux? Regards Ms there should be a way to do this regardless of DE or distro, right? 2. How do I install and play Need For Speed: Most Wanted. Not the 2012 version. The old one from 2005 that sold 16 million copies and isn't being sold anywhere. Bonus 3. An Excel alternative that can do the same things as Excel does. I've noticed that among the alternatives some featires dont exist and others dont work in the same way. Sort, basting formulas as values, converting a value fo a number, whether leading whitespaces get reimmed or not, subtotals etc. Each one of these functions works differently accross all of them. 365 or Google Suite aren't options.
I installed Zorin OS 17 Lite (and tried a couple of other distros too) on an over decade old Acer Aspire 5553G laptop with an ATI Radeon Mobility HD 5650 GPU (and a Tri-Core CPU). Games with 3D acceleration just don't work anymore! Half-Life 1 runs fine, but Half-Life 2, Skyrim and Dark Souls 2 (all of which I did play on this laptop on Windows 7) just don't work or run at 1 to 3 fps. :D I still have no idea if the issue is that the drivers aren't compatible or that the system uses integrated graphics for some reason instead of the Mobility HD 5650. I was pretty disappointed since I read all of these articles about Linux breathing new life into old computers...
Having been a photographer for over 35 years and video content creation for over 15 years, I've always used Windows. I moved to MAC during the lockdowns. The Mac Mini M1 just blows away my Windows desktop. I thought I'd give Linux another try after abject failures and although it's better it is still not a serious platform IMO. library dependencies are never installed at the outset for Resolve and so one has to go through that process. Then the issue of nVidia drivers in my case, they aren't the best - I had to manually configure which driver to use and then go into Resolve settings and untick auto detect and manually configure OpenCL and the GPU I'm using (GTX 1080 in my case). Great that takes a couple of hours of troubleshooting. Import clips, oops, Resolve Free version doesn't recognize mp4 video clips - so download shutter Encoder, and encode clips to AVID DNxHR - clips import right in, drop clips on timeline with no effects or grading, try to render out and Resolve chokes. Transcode to Cineform and all seems to be ok. Go to render out, chokes again. That's when I said forget it. IMO, Linux is for hobbyists and power users. I don't want to be doing tech support on a machine that is more than likely going to have issues in the near future. I WANTED to give Linux a serious shot and be able to untether myself from Apple's hardware and software as well as thumb my nose at Microsoft... sadly my experience dictates otherwise. My last ditch effort is to install the official Blackmagic Rocky Linux ISO and see what happens but I"m not hopeful.
I've had a bunch of issues with GNOME / NVIDIA on NixOS especially with wayland. Switched to X11 and most of the stuff was resolved. One remaining thing however is that I get no video in my VLC on some mp4 files since the video encoding can't be detected for some reason... When I open the same file in Firefox, it plays perfectly fine though. Hopefully one day I'll understand the whole video and audio infrastructure of Linux in more detail...
The longer I've used linux, the more problem I've got that I haven't been able to solve. • After suspend, sometimes my bluetooth just shuts off, and I can't turn it on. Only happens on Thinkpad Extremes. • Previously I could scroll on topbar or bottom meny to change workplace. Doesn't work anymore. • Also, can't get the new Diablo II to install!!
Hm, I am curious about this type of setup. I wonder how well it'd work with a triple monitor Wayland system. I have concerns about variable refresh rates and all that, and well, I don't mind Wayland, but I do mind DEs breaking. KDE Plasma is terribly documented, though pretty.
I have been a Windows power user since the Win95/98 days (originally introd with DOS and Win3.1). And I have tinkered with Ubuntu since 9.04 (daily from 9.10 to 11.04). But being a power user on Linux is tough and tricky. I am considering switching to GNU/Linux again as a daily. Some very difficult choices to make and new things to learn. I am excited, but also quite cautious.
Wow, nice workstation! I built my own LGA4677 PC with a 12 core w5 2455X. I am surprised you don't have 8 sticks of memory to take advantage of the 8 channel memory controller on your CPU. You would double your memory bandwidth by getting another 4 sticks. And btw, does your workstation support overclocking? I couldn't find an answer online. If not, that's too bad. Intel clocked all the Xeons quite conservatively, leaving a lot of performance on the table. My CPU has an all core boost of only 3,9 GHz. When using the auto overclocked preset in my bios I get 4,6 GHz all core turbo and I still have great temps while running heavy stress tests. The performance increase is very significant.
As a Ham radio operator, many technologies I want to use involve computing. With Linux the classic search is for the USB port that my radio or other device is using, then we want GPS and the accurate timing it brings, on the go, so we can do digital modes in the field. Lastly, sound. The software creates sounds to send through the radios, and many operators have difficulty with Linux's handling of sound.
I have random intermittent crashes when running VMWare Workstation, Islands of Insight, and some other high-usage things such as Chivalry 2 without proper error anywhere I looked, especially dmesg, on my 7900XTX. The crashes occur on both x11 and wayland testing with hyprland, sway, i3, kde, xfce, and openbox. I just stopped troubleshooting it at some point because I stopped having to do the stuff which resulted in the crashes being annoying/moved on from those games for other reasons anyway.
Sadly one issue with Resolve on Linux is that you cannot use h264 or h265 for optimised and proxy media, which would be an amazing option for any editor that needed high quality proxies without sacrificing too much filespace. I wished the licensing issues didnt exist on Linux :/
My problem is that Opera does not support h.264 by default. I tried a few fixes I found on TH-cam and Google, but they all ended up just braking the browser and it was not even starting anymore.
i'm on artix openrc running sway and pipewire, using a 7600 for graphics using vulkan-radeon and mesa (doing gpu passthru). haven't had any of the gpu underutilization or stability issues, although I haven't tried it on dwm/xorg. there is a similar dwm-like wm for wayland called dwl but i don't think it is ready as it isn't exactly stable yet on my current hardware (sway will have 30 days uptime no problem, dwl only lasts about 1 day before crashing). only time something breaks is when it is related to regarded programmers with massive egos (so anything gnome/gtk related and gzdoom)
After the same exact problems esp. with nvidia driver update or kernel update greeting with a black screen. I simply switched to Linux mint Debian edition less update more stability. I don't wanna remember the weird lags or blackout with GNOME or KDE or XFCE after kernel update or nvidia driver unless you lock it to prevent future updates. Pipewire-alsa and others should fallback.
Thanks for the deep insight into your hardware and software requirements. I have average Linux skills, but I'm in the process of learning more and more. Looking at your problems makes me understand my current situation! You have helped me by working out your problems, as I have had almost the same experience in the last month...! Tuxedo OS2 goes 3 - wayland is now supported... I use KDE and also have the pulseaudio issue. Will have a look at your description! Other example: libinput gestures are still working fine on x11, not at all on wayland. I'm using AMD hardware on the really really awesome Tuxedo Pulse 15 gen2 laptop. Long story short: I've now plucked up the courage to go troubleshooting with Tuxedo's great customer service! This Tomte software will certainly help 😅
After using linux (full-time) for 10 years, I am finally moving to windows 11. Major problem is fractional scaling , specifically different scaling for different monitors. The former is achievable with wayland but then screen sharing does not works. Then it seems that linux is not really opitimized for laptops. Bought new Thinkpad E14 (R5-7530u) and tried fedora & pop os in live mode and battery life is literally half. Laslty, some handy features like battery charge threshold etc cannot be set from linux or sadly for bios as well on this laptop. Lastly, audio & webcam too is not on par with windows (probably bcoz of dolby audio and some cam optimization). Finally took the sour pill, kept win11+wsl2
I can't imagine how much you have to LOVE DaVinci Resolve to go through all of that effort just to use it. I don't think I've ever seen a program that was good enough to justify all of this, I would have changed the software I use a trillion times before a downgrade to an old standard for my OS.
Titus I'd like to add small addition with package dependency hell in Linux which is the core issue you complaining about DE breaking. I don't know how much read only snapshot would make difference but the problem still lies with package manager itself and needs ground work IMO
Hey, i am a power user that has the nVidia GPU and was bummed out hearing that davinci works only on AMD, also about the Wayland nvidia problem.. After seeing this i felt much better about having the nVidia card rn, and also better about using Xorg which seemed super old and animations aren't the best. One issue i have been having is a very unstable environment of KDE. maybe cuz of the plasma 6 switch, but there was no difference after / before the switch as far as i can tell. Details: - running Android Studio on one virtual desktop, and intellij on another virtual desktop, when switching and using the other IDE, the other would crash, or rather be unresponsive but it seems to be a problem of the desktop environment. the application wouldn't crash i think, but the display of the window would. i don't know how to better explain this, but it didn't seem it was application failure, rather KDE window display failure. - on both Xorg and Wayland. -Also when switching virtual desktops, it would be laggy sometimes, but opening apps on both virtual desktops would fix for both wayland and xorg. and several issues like this. - On windows, same machine, it works flawless having android studio and intellij. - i have nobara base plasma 6. (for easy gaming setup for GPU 3070) Would just switching to DWM, a simpler approach to managing desktop environment, would fix these weird issues?
trying to isntall a persistent linux in usb disk is surprisingly very difficult. 24 hours and only 15% progress, etc. other option is simply too obsolete to use.
On Linux, half of the time upgrading the DE would break things. Unless there's a feature or a bugfix that you need, you can even completely omit updating the DE if it works perfectly for you.
In terms of the AMD gpu, open source AMD-GPU driver comes with kernel, AMD do supply one on their website 'AMD-GPU-Pro' i think, im not actually sure what the diferences are between the two driver builds, although i would guess that they would be almost identical, perhaps with minor code differences, for whatever reason.
I know it's not really the right topic here, but I didn't get Stable Diffusion / Automatic1111 working on Mint - the .sh start file just does nothing. On Windows it was no problem since there are many tutorials online.
New sub here, I saw you on Omnizoa's video it was a supercut of reactions from the LTT Linux Daily Driver challenge. Anyway, I've been using Linux on my laptop for a few months now and very recently I've been using it on my main gaming machine, mostly because I don't really give much of a crap anymore to the newest games to put up with windows bs anymore. It hasn't been painless but it was much less painful than I thought it would be. My main concern was my GPU which is an Nvidia one and I was very reluctant on using it under linux because I heard so many horror stories about Nvidia and Linux not vibing. I got the same setup on both my laptop and my main pc (Arch, Xorg and KDE) and but really the only problem I had so far is that i've noticed a difference in how my DE behaves on the Nvidia machine, on KDE with proprietary nvidia drivers the desktop animations (like closing, opening, minimizing windows) are VERY choppy (and that's mostly a problem with KDE) aside from that, nothing serious or system breaking. Hearing you talk about issues on linux with an AMD gpu has come as quite the revelation from me haha.
I think chris is a secret anti desktop enviroment agent, just look at the photos he choose to show gnome and kde
then, samsung dex should be your solution. 😂
A tad on the older side
Broooo those felt like a flashbang 😭😭
Nah.kde and gnome just the most popular ones.
their do look great now, but still bug all of the time, still prefer xfce or lxqt :v
“OS Age : 36 days”
I’ll check back in a year.
2025: “OS Age : 36 days”
@@ZihadGo use the command "uptime"
@@ZihadGo man you're clearly unfamiliar with shell scripting
@@ZihadGo stat / look for birth which tells you the install date
sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 **OR** /dev/sdb1* | grep 'Filesystem created:'
I can agree with your video 100%. It takes time to actually "know" what you will and will not use in your system - but once you have a routine and a suite of tools you trust - your Linux installs become minimal and powerful!
But we all know we cannot recommend stuff like this to newcomers as it would ruin their experience
What do they use? A word processor, a web browser and Solitaire. Everthing else is "power users".
@@DJDocsVideos This is exactly what I use lol. Thunderbird, LibreWolf, Notepad++, Solitaire and Rommé. That's all I have installed and that's all I ever need. Everything else is nonsense to me.
@@DJDocsVideos Apparently sharing internet from your phone is a """power user""" move, because it works 50% of the time on mint
@@DJDocsVideos Irrelevant, because even that can be a hassle on Linux. I tried years ago to dual boot Mint, but when basic stuff like a driver for my USB WiFi dongle don''t work and require tinkering, that's when you lose most people. Windows is at least functional, and almost anything you don't like can be tweaked if you are a power user.
We need more videos like this to be honest. the more these pain-points get exposed, the more likely they are to get fixed later down the line. and if work-arounds exist, they might get highlighted too. That's all everyone really wants at the end of the day, right? To make linux a better experience today/tomorrow than it was yesterday? Well.. I'd like to think so anyways.
I'd rather have pain points from people who are not power user. These kinds of videos from Linux channels happen about 12 times per minute and it's always the same thing over and over...Usually with people that use some sort of tiling manager.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino if all you find are linux videos from power users, and you yourself aren't a power user, and you want videos from non-power users to exist. . . consider making videos yourself? You feel there is a vacancy, so fill it. Just an idea. 🤷
Unfortunately, I'm afraid that even if someone nailed the Ninety-Five Theses to the door of the GNU church, the Linux community would become defensive, deny reality, declare that GNU+Linux is perfect and refuse to improve it's biggest issues. Linux community is the biggest detriment to the widespread adaptation of the Linux desktop. The worst part, they think it's a good thing and that Windows users should just adapt to all the issues they've learned to live with, and as a Windows user, I'd rather do the same with Windows than deal with the Linux community.
@@supra107 Just try to remember that while those types are very loud, they are in fact the minority of users. They primarily are found in the gentoo community from my experience. You'll find a few in the arch community too, but it's mostly the gentoo community as a whole.
@@imzesok In my experience, saying that it's just the Gentoo crowd or the Arch crowd or some other marginal group is a cope. If they are a fringe minority, then either the true Linux community doesn't do their due diligence to show the true welcoming side of the Linux community, or it's simply not true and it's a fringe majority. You can go under any comment section of a video or an article or whatever talking about Windows issues and chances are you will find a smug Linux user telling people they should use Linux. Like a vegan smugly stating they eat vegetables only or a cyclist stating that he's not polluting the environment by cycling. This is the image of the Linux community that I know because it's the one that I see the most, so if the true Linux community truly is an understanding, open and helpful community, they should work on improving their image to be exactly that.
It is very true, Linux isn't all sunshine and rainbows, and everything working...
But, once I got everything working under Linux, I started to do the same thing under Windows as well, and realized that I often had to spend time tinkering, searching out solutions there as well, and when I accounted for that...
They BOTH weren't sunshine and rainbows...
And this is called "procrastination."
Some truth there, though with this current linux config, he'll never have to deal with the tinkering again. There's no win12 (errr um sorry, no win10/11 update) to come along and force a new tweak(s). And if he was on a more stable distro, the move between KDE/Gnome versions would probably have been more smooth. Though then he likely would have lost some game compat... so building own DWM for the win.
That's the cold hard truth. Both Windows and Linux have their own subset of problems you need to deal with, and both have different strengths and weaknesses in specific applications. Windows is great as a desktop OS, Linux is great as a server OS, or as something like Proxmox for virtualized servers. However, only one userbase insists that their OS of choice is perfect, has zero issues, that everyone should move to it at an instant and that it's just like the more popular option, only to then start being all defensive and deflective once people encounter the myriads of issues they've taken for granted and accepted as something normal that doesn't have to be fixed, at the detriment of the users of the more popular option that are desperately looking for an alternative as their OS of choice is getting worse and worse.
Here's the secret for linuxland: set the bar low. I run a similar system as what Chris is running now (rolling release distro with openbox instead of DWM) and fully share his experience aside from the gpu: my AMD7000 card is running great.
Now don't get me wrong. The learning curve is steep. But now that I'm there, it's turned into a nearly painless situation and I have zero desire to switch things up (be it distro or overall config).
Where I DO see folks having trouble is the wayland/pipewire crowd (though again, my pipewire is running great). If you want to "bleeding edge" things, then yeah you're gonna have a rough time.
Overall, it certainly is a panic-filled scenario right now. Thanks, microsoft.
Yeah but you can eventually tinker windows to a usable state, which is not the case with linux
Opus ...
I have learned something today
aye my other favorite Linux youtuber, both of you should do a collab
@@sebastiangonzales46 I second this!
@@sebastiangonzales46 I third this!
yup, opus is one of the best lossy audio codecs out there.
this youtube video is using opus right now
@@Treeman3 Yeah until you try to use Opus in an DLNA Environment that supports just ACC or AC3 :)
For me Linux quite literally just works
It's always funny watching people who mess around with absolutely every single setting, trying to customise everything complain that they break their OS and that it doesn't just work out the box
All I do is game and use a browser, if that's all you're doing it will just work
yeah the issue with linux is it's great on the server trash as a desktop
it's great as a browser box but anything more than that is just painful compared to macOS or windows unless you are a dev (which i am)
linux suffers from bad support , excessive choice , poor QC and testing , elitism & i rather use a bloated copilot+ PC that will fix it self after a bad update rather than brick my installation and use grub shell
"you never have to worry about it breaking" while running a rolling release distro
Well, technically speaking, he's not entirely wrong. If you know what you're doing, if you don't install too much bloat on your system (packages you never end up using at all, or something like that), and if you properly maintain your system, you can pretty much run it forever with very little to no issue. It's all about not doing anything too crazy with your system, be careful, and maintain it properly
@@PhoenixStarYT Kernel update can easily break something, especially on a rolling distro. No way around it except not updating at all.
Sure I've been using opensuse Tumbleweed for less than a year and I've had to reinstall it more than 6 times.
@@johncombo Which is an inherent problem in monolithic style kernels. Im waiting on RedoxOS to mature more, (wish the redox dev would have chosen the SeL4 kernel)
he means it's not going to be xorg that breaks. You can run the same stuff he does on debian
"it never changes and it always works." You mean until you break it again. 😂
This is the reason why I still spend most of my time in Windows, something around 80 or 85% and the rest on Linux. I consider myself a power user, I'd been a Windows Server, VMware and Citrix administrator for 15 years until I moved into an IT management role. I have a home server running Debian 12 but my main workstation and desktop computers are both running Windows 10 due to the easy of configuration. I just simply don't have the time to investigate every single issue that Linux currently presents to me, I need to use my computers for work, I don't have the luxury of having spare time to search for workarounds, test them, search for more alternatives when those workarounds don't work as expected, and so on. I barely have time for entertainment when I'm at home and I don't want to spend that time trying to fix things either. I still installed Linux on my parents PC as, like Chris said, it's suitable for people who only use their computers for casual, online tasks such as reading the news, checking emails or the weather, shopping, etcetera.
100% i got older and don't have time to tinker all weekend or week night with linux driver or configuration issues. been there, done that, got the t-shirt! windows with WSL2 is good enough for me now!
A computer that's connected to the internet is pretty much USELESS today.
If you have the wrong Linux distro,
Then of course you're going to
Have issues.
@jschenardWHAAAAT??? Please explain how did you come to this assumption.
In fact I'm a power user and I'm trying to use Linux as my daily driver for years. I don't have time to deal with many problems Linux has, specifically with application compatibility and drivers issues. I am right now reinstalling my copy o Windows 11 removing any Linux thar has on my Nvme. Will stick to WSL for whatever I need on Linux.
@MrX-vk1jl Linux is King right now. Everything will be digital soon including
Money..
There's no way any commercial operating systems can be trusted.
Artificial intelligence is just another way for big tech to over ride copyright protection.
I appreciate the honesty! I think "Linux just works" only applies in the best case scenarios for the most vanilla users. Wayland being the default is good.... now someone has to fix all the broken stuff for all the vanilla users.
I often hear it in ircs for distros: "you can't expect no issues because you're not running a standard system," where you've done any customisation at all. It's all about choice, but your choices will probably cause problems and the community is very opinionated on which choices are "correct."
@@NotLegato so accurate.
vanilla linux is just like jenga. customizations are fun, yet precarious. (and everyone is standing around judging your choices.)
@@bigrob029 Usually they're fine if you sort of know what you're doing, but you gotta be very careful. I timeshift my system before every update, once a week. Now that we're on Plasma 6, it's not gonna break too badly until they hit 7, which should be a long time from now. Hopefully.
@@NotLegato true, yes! however, is it just me not setting it up right or does timeshift take up a TON of space?
@@bigrob029 It takes about 17-20 gigs for me. I keep one snapshot and delete it when I take another just before an update. Make sure you exclude all home stuff and also any flatpaks/snaps you might have, cause those take a lot of space. Mine are in /var/lib/flatpak. I don't schedule it because I want to spare the NVME and also only keep it as an "oh shit my update broke" tool.
At the end of this video (and elsewhere of course) you said something important: People who try Linux and run into some problem, stop there. I think this is because they have learned from Windows or macOS that there is nothing the user can do about it. With Linux, one must change their way of thinking completely. Help is available and most often there is another way to accomplish the same thing.
I guess that's why I've been fine with Linux, because even on Windows I've been a tinkerer for years, getting some games that have issues to run better, changing things about Windows itself, going into hidden settings, going into the group policy editor, going into the registry, because I can't stand the Windows defaults, and sometimes some Windows default setting combined with some games and the gpu drivers can cause problems, like Windows thinking the gpu driver has crashed and killing the process just because a game has a spot where the gpu winds down alot for a minute, super annoying, but changing the tdr window so it waits slightly longer before killing the process fixes this issue, whilst most people I know would just blame the game or Windows and stop playing that game.
I see it as a challenge to change things they don't want you to change, to change things they don't give you easy access to, to fix things other people think are hopeless.
Of course things are quite a bit different on Linux vs Windows, but I feel already being a tinkerer pushing boundaries on Windows is the best mindset to have if you want to switch to Linux, because you already do not assume everything will work the way you want it to, you are already prepared to tinker with the system and figure out ways to make it work as you want it to, that mindset I feel is helping me work with Linux now.
Tried Linux in 99, 2004, 2011, 2019, 2022. Every time either the network (wi-fi/Ethernet), Video, or Audio would not work. I have wanted to change, but Linux keeps pushing me away.
@@Danny-bd1ch That is exactly my experience. You spend days and weeks figuring out driver problems, then you get 90% to work but some important thing will simply not work and you go back to Windows or Mac
Switched to Linux on my gaming PC last weekend. Arch+Wayland+Hyprland on Nvidia. Running Mint+X11+i3 on various older laptops. The great thing about it all is choice. And really the only thing I still need to dual-boot windows for is some VMWare stuff (Horizon...) and DCS in VR.
VMware supports Linux natively though. VR depends on your GPU and headset, but generally, it's a no.
I can play VR inside a Windows VM with PCI passthrough, though!
Why limit yourself with Linux is allways the conclusion I come to after running it as a desktop for a few months, there is no hdr or vrr support and many other software and hardware limitiations.
I think alvr is a good solution to vr problem's.
@@michaelandrews4783Playing VR while editing in photoshop, just copy data on windows partition and install alvr, done.
Desktop Linux greatest strength and biggest weakness is that almost nothing is standardized. Just the fact that there are different audioservers, display servers, package managers, init systems, c library implementations(!), ... . It can be great if have the time and motivation to learn all of that stuff, but it creates so much issues when it comes compatibility and just downloading something and expecting it to just work.
I really think its for those "powerusers" like me that are in the top 50 - 99% of computer literacy that struggle with this. If you are in the bottom 50% and need a browser, music player and email client, you never have to deal with this, but if you need more niche software or use some non common hardware... yeah!
Well that's the cost of freedom and doing things a non standardized way/not enforcing a particular architecture.
Also, there may be no official standards but at least main stream software that will work on the majority of Linux systems like pipewire, gnu tools (glibc although still error prone in some ways), systemd (controversial but still widely used) and at least wrapper libraries to cope with the transition from X11 to Wayland.
Packagingwise debs are pretty universal (arch pkgs are just repackaged) and otherwise flatpaks and AppImages are pretty universal too. You could even go so far and just provide docker containers with the proper config, then it's even more universal.
In the end every software has it's unique dependencies, Windows and MacOS have a similar problem in the end by requiring certain frameworks to be installed (.NET and co.). In the end it's always the question who your target audience is and what type of Linux distro the majority is using.
@@l.h.503 that's not freedom. Standards agreed by everyone is a good thing and are usually just specifications on how things should work, but implementation can be different.
The chaos of the bazaar model in Linux is why I just stopped using it for most stuff. Like you said, it has its ups and downs. I’ve grown tired of the ever changing landscape. The BSDs have old software but they enhance it. Linux just replaced it. I don’t want to know what’s coming after Pipewire in the next 10 years
This is why i never recommend a distro aside from Linux Mint or at least some other Debian-based distro. Even for a power user like I (engineer), the non standardized crap in linux is really infuriating. So why would i bother with or recommend anything else except for the most popular and therefore most standardized distro?
@@connivingkhajiit Depends on what your aim is I guess. If you want to run very up to date or niche software it quickly gets more difficult to get that on LM than on a rolling release with some "source building system" like arch and the aur for example. If you have big security needs you also wouldn't go for things like glibc, sudo, X11 or other software with bigger codebases than needed bc it introduces unnecessary risk for bugs.
The casual user of course would be completely fine with popular distros like Linux Mint and the engineer who needs a stable system without special needs either.
I went the Jeff Geerling route. All my hobby kit runs Linux. All my servers are Linux. My daily driver is MacOS because I don’t want to spend time fixing my own computer. Before that I ran gentoo with a custom desktop. Initially I hated macOS because I could not set it up as I liked, it is what it is. Once I stopped fighting it I realised being unable to tweak it made me stop chasing the perfect desktop. I just do what I need to do, which is generally terminal and vscode. It never breaks, audio is always solid, the display is crisp, it stays out of my way. I’m glad you’ve got a great setup for you, but for me paying the apple tax is worth it to stop me spending all my time tinkering with my OS and desktop!
You doing dirty by showing those old screenshot 😂
i guess they are from the last time he really used a DE indteasd of a WM on Linux. KDE and especially Gnome have come a long way since he left them.
@@k00bly26 have they though? Just trying to configure sddm from the settings now results in a completely broken sddm for me and getting kicked into tty. At this point I'm convinced both gnome and plasma just need to die if we want the Linux desktop to actually work.
@@donkey7921 Ugh no. We need simple to use desktops for the everyday computer user. I can't imagine my parents trying to use a window manager, but they can't tell the difference between KDE, GNOME ( with extensions ) and Windows, it's all the same for them.
@@donkey7921As much as I hate gnome, they are the only properly polished desktop environment with consistent UI standards. That kind of stuff matters, because first impressions are more important than how actually useful or powerful the software is. Do people actually want to use your software? Well, you have to make it look inviting them.
@@MrGamelover23 im hoping cosmic will change that!
I appreciate your videos, how in-depth you go. I'm a recent transplant from Windows to Linux (Mint) after trying years ago with zero success. My use case has changed, I'm not trying to set the world on fire with games anymore and I like something that just... works. Linux fits that need. I'm trying to learn, but boy there is a learning curve. I'm dual booting at the moment, just in case I do need anything from Windows, or boot in to play a game or two that isn't supported on Linux, but have only been back to Windows a handful of times over the last two months.
I'm just struggling to figure out how to tinker without breaking things. Because once I break them, it's a system wipe - I don't know how to fix them, obviously! But your videos inspire me to become a better user, I enjoy how clean and quick your system looks, how stable it appears, and how it just... works. I'll continue watching your videos and seek out some tips on how to go from "noob" to "power user" and continue to give it my best!
chris titus is the type of dude who uses a 1500$ xeon very casually
Casual Desktop using 26GB / 64GB in RAM
@@aopen130 "I paid for all the RAM, I'm gonna use all the RAM"
@@aopen130 probably vms running in background
@vvvvvvvvvvv631 Most modern oses use more ram if available, it makes the system feel smoother. When the extra ram is needed, the os releases it.
This video is a masterpiece. Simultaneously showcasing both the PEAK of Linux systems and the worst part which is we're not CTT to do all of that 🤣
I love it.
My problems whenever I tried switching to Linux permanently has always been audio related. If I get it working right on desktop, it doesn't work right in-game. If I get it working in-game it has problems with equalizers, headset output not working or some combination of the above. And from my experience trying to get help on the topic nobody wants to help deal with it beyond the very basic troubleshoot.
Tbh I used to have terrible problems with Linux audio, but since pipewire was implemented, it all has been a breeze. I not only listen to music, I also produce. I'm even using vst plugins via wine.
It has gotten better with pipewire, but its still not great. I still have to do stuff like either manually, or using pavucontrol, bind output to particular applications. Nothing remembers by default. Also, the lack of a normal built in equalizer or volume normalizer like WIndows is really annoying. I tend to use something called JamesDSP for that stuff.
There's a lot with Linux audio that's a mystery to me. I just am glad when sound works. How well sound works is often down to what hardware you're trying to use. Some is supported better than others.
That's because Pulseaudio is a janky, unreliable 20-year-old piece of software that simply cannot be made to work under some circumstances.
The sooner distros and software make the switch to Pipewire, the better.
I am using two different dedicated computers to overcome this inconvenience. One with a x3d cpu optimised for gaming, the other with high core count cpu for production. For now that is how I avoid headaches.
I love how hopeless is this man in every single cover
😂
Finally, some honesty about Linux. and not just people raving about how easy it is and glossing over problems as if they're minor things. While in my experience it is somewhat true that if you just have /basic/ user requirements like running a browser or libreoffice or GiMP it /is/ pretty straight-forward to run Linux in my limited experience. I'm fairly certain if I could get it setup for him, even my barely computer-literate brother could mostly run it as a daily driver since he only really uses firefox, a word processor, and sometimes minecraft.
However like in this video I /am/ a power-user, have been that way in windows for years. And going from an high-level user of windows to Linux is like stepping onto an alien planet, or at the very least into a foreign country with a different language you barely understand and different customs and ways of doing things.
I've run into /many/ bugs trying to tweak linux how I want it to work, or how I'm used to using a computer, and since I've gotten used to a very custom setup that I literally spent years scripting and tweaking, and I have little to no idea where to even get started on some of it on Linux because the same software doesn't exist, and will not work properly under WINE due to sandboxing not really allowing you to make global tweaks to your system. Also the /constantly/ trying to do something only to realize I don't have permission and need to re-launch something with sudo and make all the edits from scratch and/or enter my password again and again and again.
My most common thing I miss is AutoHotkey, as all the macro software I've tried on Linux just pales in comparison even the attempted linux ports are missing tons of what I consider basic functionality. No blocking key events, no capslock/scrolllock/numlock control, no ability to setup a hotkey for only the left/right modifier key, no having the hotkeys be dependent on what window you're in. And that's not even starting on trying to script my custom interactive stuff like making a popup menu for doing operations on the clipboard. The only stuff I can find online says something about trying a python library and making a python script, though I can't tell if the library actually only detects input events or if it allows you to block and override them. Heck, I'm not even sure if Linux architecture even allows something like the Windows Global Keyboard Hook which Autohotkey relies on to work. I had some limited success with some of my basic hotkeys by tweaking config files and using a couple different programs, but it was spread-out, unstable and a rather cludged together mess, metaphorically held together with gum. It was far from centralized and easy to implement/change or reliable. The one software only let the hotkey work the first few presses before it reverted back to default behavior. underwhelming
The biggest thing I have always appreciated is the fact that you change your stances on stuff so much! 😂 But it's valuable. I like hearing and seeing both of what has worked and what hasn't worked for you after so many years, it's always been insightful. Might not be everyone's cup of tea but I have no issue with it.
On a side note, sad about your 7800XT not being fully utilized, it's quite bizarre. I'm running a 7900XTX and average on 98% utilization for games. ( I have a VM with an A5000 passed through as well).
Keep up the great content.
A bit of a nooby question from a Linux-veteran: How do you measure the utilization of your graphics card? Do you use the GALLIUM_HUD or something like it for this purpose? I never found a tool like nvidia-smi for AMD, so would naturally be curious about using one for my 6800XT...
@@MrRecorder1 mangohud is great
I'd be willing to check this out myself also. Am running a 4090 in my main rig but have a 7800XT & 7900XTX but I mostly watch movies and game, so it's a different workload.
@@MrRecorder1 sudo watch -n 0.5 cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/amdgpu_pm_info
@@MrRecorder1I use MangoHUD to show this during gaming, Chris uses it as well in the video gaming videos you see
I appreciate the video. I have to say I'm a bit disappointed to hear about your AMD troubles. My workstation PC has been on Ubuntu for several months now, and since 24.04 I haven't touched my Windows partition.. to the point I'm considering reclaiming the drive space. I'm making the switch on my gaming PC this week.. but it has a 7900XT that I'm quite happy with. I suppose we'll see! I've been around since the MS DOS, Windows 3.1 days so maybe a return to the command line is in my future? Thanks for taking the time to document your experiences.
I've got a 7900XT and it works fine. My suspicion is that his card problems weren't an AMD problem but a board manufacturer problem.
@@tecknogyk I hope so. I'm trying it out either way, and I care more about how things look on my screen than what the utilization numbers show. I tend to limit my frame rates to my screen refresh, and since moving to this card it typically never gets to 100% utilization.
AMD open source drivers are by and large not bad, where you run into problems is with OpenCL & GPU compute workloads. Here you need to use propriety drivers as Clover is too old and broken and as for RustCL...
Problem is AMD seems to have developed the "sucks to be you!" attitude towards Linux users, to the point that my next card will be Nvida. I need OpenCL and if AMD support is going to be patchy to non-existent then my money's going elsewhere.
In my experience, for general desktop use in Linux AMD cards are best, for gaming it's more even, and AMD seems to get better all the time, but for GPU compute loads or any proprietary video software like DaVinci Resolve, you are better off with NVIDIA. I still would like to see the open source software/driver stack for OpenCL on AMD to get up to speed, but there doesn't seem to be enough interest at the moment. Even if it did, that doesn't mean proprietary software would start making use of it.
@@tecknogyk For AMD I only use Sapphire cards - never had a problem with their implementations 🙂
Freaking font rendering is my only issue with any Linux distro. Especially with 4k display
Gosh, fractional scaling / UI scaling really is behind on Linux. It can be done, but it takes much more work.
Also, HDR support is still missing but I heard the wayland project is working on it.
@@l.h.503 it's already here in plasma 6 you can test it in Kde Neon or Arch and for gaming the Nobara project supports it on Arch and Fedora and on PikaOs in a beta state which i tested and once i got it working it was great
@@grantschilb8019KDE Plasma with Wayland has very good fractional scaling, even better than Microsoft Windows, so you might want to try that.
KDE is good, but it isn't perfect for fractional scaling. Some apps run natively at 1.5x, some render at 2x and scale down. I'd rather it be one or the other, not both. Either render everything at 2x and scale down, or just render natively. Windows for 99% of apps renders natively at 1.5x, the same cannot be said of KDE on Wayland. Of course, I'm not even a Windows user, I prefer macOS on my laptop, and I dual boot macOS and KDE on Wayland on a system with a Low DPI screen. Now in the defense of Linux, Cinnamon and GNOME can render at 2x and scale down all apps (GNOME 47 fixed the issue where Xwayland would cause blurring). So I'd say fractional scaling has already improved in the Linux world since I wrote my comment 4 months ago. But of all the OSes, Windows by far has the most modern software with out of the box native fractional scaling. But nowdays, KDE works as well as Windows for most users looking to use Linux.
Was hoping SOMEONE would deal with all these types issues while we’re young. Thanks for this video Sir.
I've been a Windows user since I was a kid, but 11 is so bad I decided to give Linux a chance, and know what I really like Linux Mint! Still getting used to it, of course.
Linux Mint feels like the best introduction for Windows users to switch to Linux, and when more comfortable, switch to a better distro of their choice.
Its really the best place to start and promoted as such for good reason. If you want to learn more you can move to arch later, but its really not necessary. If you ever get to the point where you're unable to find applications in mint/ubuntu repo and you get sick of compiling your own apps, you might try an arch-based distro, but aside from that, Mint is as good as it gets.
yup i agree fully to this and it's really what you want to do with your system, linux is just the do whatever you want with it without limitations basically but of course you gotta know what you are doing. Also i would suggest to read arch wiki or from the interwebs about how the linux filesystem works and what are all the folders for. That really helps you to understand why linux works the way it does!
i feel like most windows users are gamers. so I feel like bazzite is the best introfuction for windows users to switch to linux
Windows 11 is such a flaming tire fire, you litterally couldn't have switched at a better time, to a better distro. This is coming from an MCSE/MCITP & I happily run Linux with all Windows box's now just VM's. Im working on AWS anyway so I could use a Chrome book only (god help me) if I wanted to.
Chris one thing I love about DWM and windows managers that use Xorg xrandr is the ability to set --pos 0x0 for a seperate capture card set to a lower refresh rate than the application you're capturing on your main display. I then pipe my audio out the HDMI output with an OBS instance. Then my streaming PC handles the streaming/recording. It's amazing...
Why desktop environments struggle to display the same content with varying refresh rates boggles my mind.. or how does DWM or other window managers do this it's complete magic.
@christitus - Can you please create a post regarding DWM install on fresh debian (with no desktop environment), Also what are the dependencies to be installed before DWM install and What are the essential softwares you installed for the basic/normal day to day use...
Interested
I'm working on a Linux tool that will auto install all this.
@@ChrisTitusTech ok... i watched it (Linux Tool Box twitch stream)....... Glad to know its included in it.........
I had lots of problems associated with steam proton's fullscreen mode. Since it's not an actual fullscreen (wine emulates it by scaling the window to avoid changing the actual desktop resolution), mouse input breaks in some games and scaling looks terrible, especially fonts. I don't even know what it is, but fonts look much better when they're in actual fullscreen mode and there's no option to force that.
This is the kind of video I was hoping someone would make. Audio drivers and frame rate mismatches for my multi-moditor setup that didn't work out of the box were two of my major issues, I hadn't even gotten far enough to figure out how to get resolve working. With NVIDIA Linux support improving, this will be really helpful to me, thanks.
Nvidia's Linux support has never changed. They have the same policy today they had decades ago.
@@1pcfred NVIDIA's policy has very little to do with it. Feature parity with windows on available drivers, open source and proprietary, has improved significantly lately.
@@Doc4 Nvidia has always had a parity policy. At one time Linux could run 4 monitors and Windows only 3 so Nvidia gimped the Linux driver. See, parity!
@@1pcfred Yes, but with the current state of open source drivers, performance is starting to look more competitive. Edge cases and clear software limitations may become less frequent over time than in the past.
@@Doc4 there's no way I'd use the open source driver. The binary driver has delicious secret sauce.
The Opus tipp was a banger. I started Audio editing and for a friend who wants to start youtube.
It is kind of a pain in the low point on linux. I was kind of thinking about davinci resolve but I guess I stick to audacity since I do not want to uninstall my DE.
But yeah I will look into Opus thanks a lot.
Xorg does not "just work" in my experience. I always have screen tearing even with TearFree set true. Wayland is more reponsive overall and never tears.
for me Xorg sessions just refuse to launch on my laptop half of the time. Wayland works fine for everything except games.
The only tearing I ever had in xorg was with nvidia, and it is using resolved with forcing full compsition pipeline. With radeon, never experienced but in some instances, I find disabling the kde compositor (ctrl+f12) can improve things.
My screen never tears. So I guess it's just you. I've never even heard of TearFree. Because I've never needed to. Maybe Wayland is more responsive but X is imperceptible to me as it is. I'd have to measure the response time with some kind of software that can characterize time slices I cannot. Basically WTF are you even talking about?
@@1pcfred Basically different people might have different hardware and software configurations, but I'm sure this has never crossed your mind. Xorg is just one piece of the puzzle.
The Xorg screen tearing is from using the xorg drivers for your card amd or intel. Remove that package and magically all your tearing will be gone.
5:39 Resolve is an Electron app, btw. And it's biggest issue when it comes to AMD under Linux is it requires nvidia drivers and cuda to be installed even if you don't have a nvidia card in your system.
Isn't issues with Wayland on Nvidia sorted now since version 555 of the proprietary driver got it's beta release?
its an involving process, but ye, its getting better, i now dont regret buying nvidia gpu that came with my laptop at least(rtx 3060 mobile gpu).
I'm on Tumbleweed and since I installed the 555 beta drivers I've had a almost flawless Wayland experience on Plasma 6. I only say almost because on waking from sleep mode the desktop environment does not recover correctly and I have to reboot. For me that's a small price to pay.
@@skorne7682 tbf, waking from sleep/hibernate was always pretty 50-50 on linux to begin with IIRC.
@@skorne7682 Yes on Tumbleweed I get a black screen, but everything is still there and i can see where the cursor changes for the password input, so i just click there and type it and enter LOOL
I am trying to switch to Linux from Windows 10 for years now. Today I tried debian 12.5 but even things like the clipboard manager or remote desktop are laughable. Not to speak of Autohotkey. And the speed is worse. I was a Mac fanboy from 1993 to 2007 but right now, I think Windows 10 is the best for medium desktop power users and Linux for servers. I like your idea to get rid of the whole desktop and use the terminal. What file manager are you using? In Windows 10 I use Opus and I think it is the best.
Wow, Chris has come a long way. I remember when he was still a (youtube) baby.
Windows can also break a lot when going through extended periods of major updates at once. It's probably some flaw of more complex desktop environments in general. I took out my windows laptop that I haven't used for a year one and a half weeks ago, let it update... And it completely broke everything. Explorer exe didn't even work. I just made a clean Windows install because screw dealing with that.
really enjoyed this tour of your system, gives me tons of ideas
Thanks for always talking about Linux and helping people understand its potential and weaknesses. For now i'm still on Windows on my main system simply because i want something that just works, but i got a second system (a laptop) with Linux to fiddle around and learn, and so far very few things didn't work as expected.
This was great... I'm a new pop os 22.04 user and I like it. I'd love you to relate your Linux gaming experience and tips some time. I'm reading your posts under your Linux section about gaming :-)
I'm looking forward to Cosmic. The choice of floating and tiled window managers is really good.. Nice keyboard shortcuts to get around. it seems really quick and getting rid of windows at home has been great. Being able to ssh between machines is so much easier than farting around with slow windows networking. Even the remote desktop sharing is so good. Also the USB audio works really well with my external DAC.
But I've found getting games going a headache. I have lots on GOG, Epic and Steam.. I've messed around with Bottles, Heroic, Steam and Lutris and haven't had a lot of success. A few games work but most don't. I'm using the nvidia version of pop os 22.04 and my gtx 1080 does its thing. It would be great to have a single approach where I'm doing the same thing to organise and play games.. at the moment it seems pretty fragmented.
New linux user here (at least as a daily driver) with a Nvidia card. I can definitely agree that wayland is causing a lot of flickering and other issues. Since I've gone away from KDE and wayland I have less issues like that. Also as a power user I love timeshift, it has saved me a lot these days. Now that I'm commenting I wanna say, I appreciate your videos and what you do for this community, your windows utility is a fantastic tool
Can you play Helldivers now? How did you fix it?
I can... I switched from AMD to nVidia
@@ChrisTitusTech Weird it worked with AMD on bazzite but not on Arch. I wonder why that was. It is a shame we will neve know lol
This is interesting. I've had no problem running Helldiver's with my AMD 7900 on Fedora. The problem I have is my NIC suddenly decides to fail on me and lose connection to my router. Wi-Fi is a little more stable but does occasionally disconnect as well. I've tried looking up diagnosis but no solution for that
2:21 This is exactly why I am not on Arch anymore, updates would cause issues too often.
I switched to Debian 12 and stayed there for at least a year, but on Debian I had opposite issues, I assume cause of too old NVIDIA driver, for example CS 2 would just freeze as soon as I shoot something, while on Arch it worked just fine(had both systems installed for some time, so I could test it).
Then I went for golden middle ground and I am on Fedora now, no issues with rolling release updates, nor with too old versions. I've assumed Fedora 39 would have less issues than newest Fedora 40, so I am on 39 and will switch to 40 once 39 reaches EOL.
I've been using Nvidia and Xorg for 10 years. Everything works fine.
Resolve has always worked well for me, but I switched all my video/audio editing workflow on an Apple Silicon Mac.
I've used tiling window managers, and various DEs. GNOME has always been the one that gave me less issues. I recently switched to KDE Plasma just to try it out after years. It was semidecent until the upgrade to Plasma 6, which is garbage...I think all the issues in Linux desktop boil down to the DE and the audio stack.
So far I've been very happy with the switch to pipewire, but I think I'll nuke any DE and move to dwm myself (and stay on Xorg) since I'm learning C anyways
The only reason I haven't switched yet is I still haven't figured out how to properly route audio and MIDI in Linux, and just trying to get anything working right ends with me inevitably breaking something...losing time and money in the process, so I get forced into going back to Windows to get any audio work done.
Something on the insanity of Linux audio, and how to properly navigate it in a pro-audio setting would be a great video!
Also, DON'T use pulseaudio, that crap is older than my grandma, if yo wanna pulse/jack support in pipewire, install pipewire-jack & pipewire-pulse. Also for midi I should encourage the install of pipewire-alsa, alsa-lib, alsa-tools & alsa-plugins.
ALVR is broken for me again. That's really my biggest complaint with Linux is Virtual Reality support. I feel like we are so close, yet so far.
It works well on opensuse. But that has it's own issues, like yast being sh*t, and installing steam not auto installing vulkan drivers.
@@donkey7921 I am on... brace yourself, Zorin. I'm new, and I like it. I will eventually find something better, but I'm comfortable now.
6:27 on Geforce cards (os windows) you could gain fps boost by disabling GPU audio.
Hi Chris, on the subject of AMD, how could you tell that your 7800 was not being used to its fullest? Please note that I am new to this and currently running Ubuntu 24.04 K:6.8.0-35-generic.
Maybe he meant on da vinci.. but that should be a bad software optimization
you can use mangohud to display an overlay that shows cpu and gpu utilization in a game
@@iiisaac1312 Thank you sir...
One of my personal issues with most distros is the coupling together of OS and Application package management. You can decouple them by using multiple package managers, flatpaks, or even manually installing and you will generally have a more stable experience.
As with most with Linux usage, the desire is to keep using the latest and greatest without real consideration for stability. As Chris even said, "I had issues upgrading from Plasma 5 to 6". There's no reason to do that if you want stability! That's tinkering. Stick with LTS's and stable versions and you'll typically be just fine!
No, you should be able to update software.
We have Alpha,Beta & RC designations for software for a reason, dont release software as Stable when its only a Release Candidate.
Very dated packages is a problem. I run Linux Mint, and know they love stability. But when Okular is some 4 versions behind, or LibreOffice is behind, it means I miss features and bug fixes. Now I'm trying out Fedora 40 as a live USB to see what nightmares I can have on a much more current distro that is "bleeding edge".
I highly recommend arch over fedora. I'm just one random voice on the internet, but I've tried fedora multiple times on several computers with both intel/amd and nvidia/radeon hardware, and had problems every single time that just didn't exist on debian or arch.
Use flatpak.
Ok it's ugly, especially by default, but I've never had any problem with XFCE4 and there's a shitton of super useful functionalities
0:45 My cousin who just uses her laptop for office stuff, websurfing and maybe a casual game or two can in fact use Linux and it just works. I told her I won‘t give her any technical support on Windows, she was ok with trying Linux so I installed ZorinOS. Since then she has been using it (>3 years) at home and school and all support stuff is like „can you setup my wifi“ of „can I install X“ maybe one a year. Basically the same as it used to be on Windows.
But yes, power users will break it in a few weeks, such is life.
1. Uses Arch.
2. Complains about stuff breaking all the time.
..what?
Exactly my thoughts.
Arch is the only distro I've used that hasn't randomly broken on me.
I don't think we wre talking about a distro breaking randomly. More like trying to make it work and it breaks;.
@@johanngambolputty5351 same. Arch has been more stable than Fedora or Debian for me.
I have run Arch for several years and it has not broken one on me.
I'm glad to hear you had similar issues with Wayland. It has caused nothing but issues for me as a new Linux user.
I sort of cringe when I watch these videos because I think that sometimes these guys think most people who use Linux are like them. I would say a tiny minority fall into that category. For the vast majority...it does just work. I think most people who use Linux are tinkerers. That's one of the best parts is that you can customize it to your liking, but most people are not going to this extreme and it might turn people off who have never used it before from even wanting to try it.
can't help but feel like you're doing the very same thing you're pointing out with this comment, because I can tell you, that's simply not the case from my personal experience and a whole lot of other people. sure, MOST things will just work. there are somethings that simply don't. all these videos do, is point out the stuff that doesn't. just remember that it may "just work" with your current hardware and software configuration, but don't take that to mean that it's at all common. 😉
Nothing is really common in linux it a work in progress.
@@imzesokbut the point is Titus spent 5 years getting the “perfect” setup with having to do a bunch of shit the avg person will never be able to understand
@@tttomtxhc i'm sure you think it is the point. within the context of the video, it's really not as relevant as you might think. He had a problem.. he pointed it out, and that the narrative that "just switch to linux everything works fine" is just demonstrably false.
the OPs point was actually "don't tell people that some people have problems under linux! they might not switch because of it!"
genuinely try watching the video first.
This thing of most people don't break anything is just a complete lie, there is ppl that just open the browser, but most people who actually work or use a computer every day will install crap manually, have bespoke little tools and a specific setup, even on windows
Its funny how my system is nearly the polar opposite. Removed xorg entirely whereever possible (as in the xorg drivers), trying to remove alsa and pulse whete ever possible too and using the Piper wire bridge if needed. And instead of arch using fedora. But just like his system luckily i rarely ever need to tinker anything except wine, though for wine all i need to do is clean out the prefix and or reinstall wine, though this hasn't been needed for a good while
I just think you SHOULD NOT remove alsa support, that's bc pipewire kinda needs alsa-tools & plugins. I think how you use arch, you probally know about pipewire-pulse, pipewire-jack & pipewire-alsa. (Also don't forget to install wireplumber)
@@MashonDev yeah everything works fine rn. Plus yes wireplumber is installed. Thank you for your concern.
@@zerotwo_.002 Hum, great!
It's the year of the Windows desktop.
😂
There are less and less windows 11 users every year. Wdym?
@@F0XH0UND007probably a satire comment haha
@@F0XH0UND007yeah because they are returning to win10 or going to MAC. Nobody is going to linux
@@Wonback people don't go or return to anything, they use whatever OS that comes preinstalled with their device. the portion of users that actually install their own OS by themselves is so minuscule it's barely a blip on the radar.
Wayland is not production ready, and I don't know why distribs switch to it by default. XWayland is not X11 it works awful. If you don't use 3D-graphics, and Wine for some apps which has no Linux counterpart - you can use Wayland maybe (I - don't, because I'm sticking to Nvidia).
Every os has problems
Really nice and all, but have you been able to solve the long standing problem of videos being decoded on the CPU rather than the dedicated decoders on GPUS when viewed in browsers?
What, linux has problems too?.nah.thats impossible.all those videos that get recommended to me says that linux is perfect and better than every other os that exists.
And in fact, no OS is perfect
@@ryan3128 i lnow that.its those dang linux TH-camrs that sells it so hard int heir title and thumbnails.the biggest offender is the brodie guy.go onto his channel and check the titles and thumbnails, and tell me that's not cring.
I had to go back to X and pulseaudio as well, for many of the same reasons you ran into. Hyprland (wlroots 0.7+) and audio (recent pipewire) don't work in VMs anymore. An alternative to dwm is DK wm which is only a 140K binary but has many of the patches (built in and configurable externally) that you would normally apply to dwm. The only thing I miss is the wayland foot terminal, which is lightweight and has sixel support.
Since you asked for linux gripes, here we go.
A few driver versions ago nvidia introduced a laptop feature to desktop, so called runtime D3 (RTD3). This allows you gpu to fully power down when not in use, now for home server applications this is great! The feature promises to drop you nvidia card from something like 14 watts to basically 0.
However I for the life of me cannot get it to work, if you ever get the chance, do take a look at this feature. I am especially interested in how to enable it on a motherboard that doesn't have the right ACPI calls implemented by the board vendor. Perhaps by patching the DSDT of SSDT tables.
This is the greatest strength and sometimes the biggest roadblock to new users, choice. You can have a bog standard distro with KDE loaded up for grandma and it'll be a "just works" bootloader for a web browser. Or you can go with an ultra minimalist custom kernel riced set up that's almost a server like this. It can be intimidating for perspective users to sift through but it's amazing to have al those options.
Chris, hope you will make an answer in some form about other Linux issue which is RGB light on every component and how to manage it. AFAIK openRGB is the way but its far less stable and not really works on any system
The uber-SA's in our shop use a setup just like yours. I never went that far, but I've also never had any of the DE issues you mention. I run a custom-compiled CRUX kernel and XFCE4 for the window manager. The system has been utterly stable for 15 years. Your presentation has me wondering about exploring possible benefits of a DWM config. Thanks.
The biggest hurdle for migration from Windows to Linux from my new experience is setting up for gaming and managing drives.
Lots of people are put off by having to type commands. And the click to install doesn't always work.
Case in point, I have set up a dual boot system on the C: drive but it won't allow me to select an external drive to download games, nor will it accept game files on the Windows side. Used Steam, Lutris, and Proton with no luck. Looking for steps online just digs a never-ending hole. Windows is a simple click to download and a click to install. Linux is a nightmare. The "convenience" factor is not there and that is what is holding the OS back.
Chris, my biggest problem with Linux is that when I break something, and I mean really break it, I reinstall. I spend a TON of time reinstalling every time I break something. I think what the people (me, I'm the people) need is to know how to undo the dumb thing so we can start back at the beginning and try again. How do I uninstall everything I did in the last hour. How do I undo whatever a script I tried to run just did effectively uninstalling the script? Sure, I can get things set up the way I want but then I'm not allowed to screw around because I'll be reinstalling again. It hurts me.
If you don't see this or don't want to make a video that's cool, I just needed to vent. Thanks for the video. I'm going to go break more stuff.
Use timeshift :) works with btrfs and ext4 (rsync) everytime you do a bigger update or install something completely new you just create a snapshot with timeshift. In case something doesn't work simply restore the snapshot, reboot and you'll have a working setup again
Funnily enough, when Arch Linux switched to pipewire, after some initial problems, it has basically solved any audio issues I had.
I have 2 simple problems and 1 difficult problem.
1. I have spent 20 years switching language with alt+shift. I find it more comfortable and it's muscle memory at this point. How do I make this work in Linux? Regards Ms there should be a way to do this regardless of DE or distro, right?
2. How do I install and play Need For Speed: Most Wanted. Not the 2012 version. The old one from 2005 that sold 16 million copies and isn't being sold anywhere.
Bonus 3. An Excel alternative that can do the same things as Excel does. I've noticed that among the alternatives some featires dont exist and others dont work in the same way. Sort, basting formulas as values, converting a value fo a number, whether leading whitespaces get reimmed or not, subtotals etc. Each one of these functions works differently accross all of them. 365 or Google Suite aren't options.
I installed Zorin OS 17 Lite (and tried a couple of other distros too) on an over decade old Acer Aspire 5553G laptop with an ATI Radeon Mobility HD 5650 GPU (and a Tri-Core CPU). Games with 3D acceleration just don't work anymore! Half-Life 1 runs fine, but Half-Life 2, Skyrim and Dark Souls 2 (all of which I did play on this laptop on Windows 7) just don't work or run at 1 to 3 fps. :D I still have no idea if the issue is that the drivers aren't compatible or that the system uses integrated graphics for some reason instead of the Mobility HD 5650.
I was pretty disappointed since I read all of these articles about Linux breathing new life into old computers...
Having been a photographer for over 35 years and video content creation for over 15 years, I've always used Windows. I moved to MAC during the lockdowns. The Mac Mini M1 just blows away my Windows desktop. I thought I'd give Linux another try after abject failures and although it's better it is still not a serious platform IMO. library dependencies are never installed at the outset for Resolve and so one has to go through that process. Then the issue of nVidia drivers in my case, they aren't the best - I had to manually configure which driver to use and then go into Resolve settings and untick auto detect and manually configure OpenCL and the GPU I'm using (GTX 1080 in my case). Great that takes a couple of hours of troubleshooting. Import clips, oops, Resolve Free version doesn't recognize mp4 video clips - so download shutter Encoder, and encode clips to AVID DNxHR - clips import right in, drop clips on timeline with no effects or grading, try to render out and Resolve chokes. Transcode to Cineform and all seems to be ok. Go to render out, chokes again. That's when I said forget it. IMO, Linux is for hobbyists and power users. I don't want to be doing tech support on a machine that is more than likely going to have issues in the near future. I WANTED to give Linux a serious shot and be able to untether myself from Apple's hardware and software as well as thumb my nose at Microsoft... sadly my experience dictates otherwise. My last ditch effort is to install the official Blackmagic Rocky Linux ISO and see what happens but I"m not hopeful.
I've had a bunch of issues with GNOME / NVIDIA on NixOS especially with wayland.
Switched to X11 and most of the stuff was resolved. One remaining thing however is that I get no video in my VLC on some mp4 files since the video encoding can't be detected for some reason... When I open the same file in Firefox, it plays perfectly fine though.
Hopefully one day I'll understand the whole video and audio infrastructure of Linux in more detail...
The longer I've used linux, the more problem I've got that I haven't been able to solve.
• After suspend, sometimes my bluetooth just shuts off, and I can't turn it on. Only happens on Thinkpad Extremes.
• Previously I could scroll on topbar or bottom meny to change workplace. Doesn't work anymore.
• Also, can't get the new Diablo II to install!!
Hm, I am curious about this type of setup. I wonder how well it'd work with a triple monitor Wayland system. I have concerns about variable refresh rates and all that, and well, I don't mind Wayland, but I do mind DEs breaking. KDE Plasma is terribly documented, though pretty.
"I just like setting everything up in terminal", the same for me. Once you get used, the terminal is unbeatable.
I have been a Windows power user since the Win95/98 days (originally introd with DOS and Win3.1). And I have tinkered with Ubuntu since 9.04 (daily from 9.10 to 11.04). But being a power user on Linux is tough and tricky. I am considering switching to GNU/Linux again as a daily. Some very difficult choices to make and new things to learn. I am excited, but also quite cautious.
Wow, nice workstation! I built my own LGA4677 PC with a 12 core w5 2455X. I am surprised you don't have 8 sticks of memory to take advantage of the 8 channel memory controller on your CPU. You would double your memory bandwidth by getting another 4 sticks.
And btw, does your workstation support overclocking? I couldn't find an answer online.
If not, that's too bad. Intel clocked all the Xeons quite conservatively, leaving a lot of performance on the table.
My CPU has an all core boost of only 3,9 GHz.
When using the auto overclocked preset in my bios I get 4,6 GHz all core turbo and I still have great temps while running heavy stress tests.
The performance increase is very significant.
As a Ham radio operator, many technologies I want to use involve computing. With Linux the classic search is for the USB port that my radio or other device is using, then we want GPS and the accurate timing it brings, on the go, so we can do digital modes in the field. Lastly, sound. The software creates sounds to send through the radios, and many operators have difficulty with Linux's handling of sound.
I have random intermittent crashes when running VMWare Workstation, Islands of Insight, and some other high-usage things such as Chivalry 2 without proper error anywhere I looked, especially dmesg, on my 7900XTX. The crashes occur on both x11 and wayland testing with hyprland, sway, i3, kde, xfce, and openbox.
I just stopped troubleshooting it at some point because I stopped having to do the stuff which resulted in the crashes being annoying/moved on from those games for other reasons anyway.
It’s so satisfying to see such a new full-time Linux user doing in such an old-school fashion! Please keep influencing people to do the same. 🤗
Sadly one issue with Resolve on Linux is that you cannot use h264 or h265 for optimised and proxy media, which would be an amazing option for any editor that needed high quality proxies without sacrificing too much filespace. I wished the licensing issues didnt exist on Linux :/
My problem is that Opera does not support h.264 by default.
I tried a few fixes I found on TH-cam and Google, but they all ended up just braking the browser and it was not even starting anymore.
i'm on artix openrc running sway and pipewire, using a 7600 for graphics using vulkan-radeon and mesa (doing gpu passthru). haven't had any of the gpu underutilization or stability issues, although I haven't tried it on dwm/xorg. there is a similar dwm-like wm for wayland called dwl but i don't think it is ready as it isn't exactly stable yet on my current hardware (sway will have 30 days uptime no problem, dwl only lasts about 1 day before crashing). only time something breaks is when it is related to regarded programmers with massive egos (so anything gnome/gtk related and gzdoom)
After the same exact problems esp. with nvidia driver update or kernel update greeting with a black screen. I simply switched to Linux mint Debian edition less update more stability. I don't wanna remember the weird lags or blackout with GNOME or KDE or XFCE after kernel update or nvidia driver unless you lock it to prevent future updates.
Pipewire-alsa and others should fallback.
Thanks for the deep insight into your hardware and software requirements. I have average Linux skills, but I'm in the process of learning more and more. Looking at your problems makes me understand my current situation! You have helped me by working out your problems, as I have had almost the same experience in the last month...! Tuxedo OS2 goes 3 - wayland is now supported... I use KDE and also have the pulseaudio issue. Will have a look at your description! Other example: libinput gestures are still working fine on x11, not at all on wayland. I'm using AMD hardware on the really really awesome Tuxedo Pulse 15 gen2 laptop. Long story short: I've now plucked up the courage to go troubleshooting with Tuxedo's great customer service! This Tomte software will certainly help 😅
After using linux (full-time) for 10 years, I am finally moving to windows 11. Major problem is fractional scaling , specifically different scaling for different monitors. The former is achievable with wayland but then screen sharing does not works. Then it seems that linux is not really opitimized for laptops. Bought new Thinkpad E14 (R5-7530u) and tried fedora & pop os in live mode and battery life is literally half. Laslty, some handy features like battery charge threshold etc cannot be set from linux or sadly for bios as well on this laptop. Lastly, audio & webcam too is not on par with windows (probably bcoz of dolby audio and some cam optimization). Finally took the sour pill, kept win11+wsl2
for resolve did you need to buy the license to get hardware encoding to work with NVIDIA?
I can't imagine how much you have to LOVE DaVinci Resolve to go through all of that effort just to use it. I don't think I've ever seen a program that was good enough to justify all of this, I would have changed the software I use a trillion times before a downgrade to an old standard for my OS.
you have also a tuxedo ? it was a mistake i get one That configuration of the bios is not for a linux computer like the promote it !
Titus I'd like to add small addition with package dependency hell in Linux which is the core issue you complaining about DE breaking. I don't know how much read only snapshot would make difference but the problem still lies with package manager itself and needs ground work IMO
Hey, i am a power user that has the nVidia GPU and was bummed out hearing that davinci works only on AMD, also about the Wayland nvidia problem.. After seeing this i felt much better about having the nVidia card rn, and also better about using Xorg which seemed super old and animations aren't the best.
One issue i have been having is a very unstable environment of KDE. maybe cuz of the plasma 6 switch, but there was no difference after / before the switch as far as i can tell.
Details:
- running Android Studio on one virtual desktop, and intellij on another virtual desktop, when switching and using the other IDE, the other would crash, or rather be unresponsive but it seems to be a problem of the desktop environment. the application wouldn't crash i think, but the display of the window would. i don't know how to better explain this, but it didn't seem it was application failure, rather KDE window display failure.
- on both Xorg and Wayland.
-Also when switching virtual desktops, it would be laggy sometimes, but opening apps on both virtual desktops would fix for both wayland and xorg. and several issues like this.
- On windows, same machine, it works flawless having android studio and intellij.
- i have nobara base plasma 6. (for easy gaming setup for GPU 3070)
Would just switching to DWM, a simpler approach to managing desktop environment, would fix these weird issues?
trying to isntall a persistent linux in usb disk is surprisingly very difficult. 24 hours and only 15% progress, etc. other option is simply too obsolete to use.
On Linux, half of the time upgrading the DE would break things. Unless there's a feature or a bugfix that you need, you can even completely omit updating the DE if it works perfectly for you.
In terms of the AMD gpu, open source AMD-GPU driver comes with kernel, AMD do supply one on their website 'AMD-GPU-Pro' i think, im not actually sure what the diferences are between the two driver builds, although i would guess that they would be almost identical, perhaps with minor code differences, for whatever reason.
I know it's not really the right topic here, but I didn't get Stable Diffusion / Automatic1111 working on Mint - the .sh start file just does nothing. On Windows it was no problem since there are many tutorials online.
New sub here, I saw you on Omnizoa's video it was a supercut of reactions from the LTT Linux Daily Driver challenge.
Anyway,
I've been using Linux on my laptop for a few months now and very recently I've been using it on my main gaming machine, mostly because I don't really give much of a crap anymore to the newest games to put up with windows bs anymore.
It hasn't been painless but it was much less painful than I thought it would be. My main concern was my GPU which is an Nvidia one and I was very reluctant on using it under linux because I heard so many horror stories about Nvidia and Linux not vibing. I got the same setup on both my laptop and my main pc (Arch, Xorg and KDE) and but really the only problem I had so far is that i've noticed a difference in how my DE behaves on the Nvidia machine, on KDE with proprietary nvidia drivers the desktop animations (like closing, opening, minimizing windows) are VERY choppy (and that's mostly a problem with KDE) aside from that, nothing serious or system breaking.
Hearing you talk about issues on linux with an AMD gpu has come as quite the revelation from me haha.
Thanks for the good advice Chris! I am slowly migrating to Linux permanently and you are a treasure trove of information :)