Trump Vs. DeSantis Will Self Destruct The Right
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- DeSantis announces his run for president and Trump declares war... Destiny discusses the current crisis of the right w/ NotSoErudite, ImReallyImportant and Zonia
Date: 24 May, 2023
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Trump Supporters GRILL Destiny On DeSantis And Redpill
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how the hell do you get 1 like on a pinned comment lmao
I got you
Theyre gonna have a jew blowing contest, while american whites stock up on ammo
@@Ar1AnX1x ,c a
@@Ar1AnX1xit's surprisingly common, nobody likes these comments from the Creators
Glad to see Destiny keep his promise to cover politics after beating Factorio.
lol this is very thing political material
As long as he doesn't do drama content
@Richard Nixon "shut up, bitch" -the rock
I have a question. Destiny is doing the same as those Redpill guys are doing. He himself is running through chicks but preaches other men not to do it. Now , Destiny will say he don't recommend his actions to others, but my question is does that make his actions right? If a murderer kills someone and doesn't advice others not to do it, Does that make his actions ok? Isn't that hypocrisy?
FINALLY SOME POLITICS CONTENT 🙏
Yeah too bad all their takes are hot garbage.
We need Destiny on JRE. Destiny already knows Lex Callen and Chris, so i am sure they can make it happen.
Joe should really have Trump on too. He's been rattled by all the opinion pieces he's unlikely to have anyone controversial on again. Many guests don't vibe well with Joe and I can imagine him hating Destiny.
Destiny would get asked why he's called Joe a fucking moron and a harmful character who spreads covid "misinformation" over and over... never gonna happen. Stevey would be required to admit he's dead wrong about Joe as a human.
@@mac_o7 joe said he will not have any running candidates anymore. He even refused to have Trump a year or so ago so I doubt it will happen. And I don't see him hating Deatiny. On the contrary, he will find Destiny interesting imo
@@mac_o7 I beg to differ but we will have to agree to disagree
@Michael M I remember Destiny explicitly saying he didn't think Joe Rogan was stupid, he just thought he was a bit too open-minded. Joe is chill as hell, i doubt there would be any conflict.
I listened to Joe for years and years before I knew who Destiny was, i really think they'd get along fine and would become friends.
It's weird when redpill critics branch out into politics.
Most of this was highschool lunch table tier of political beliefs
No it isn’t ❤
How so? Please elaborate.
Politics content? Thanks Ms. Destiny!
He needs to stay in his own lane. He needs to stick to redpill content. That's what he's known for /s
"Red pill" topics are very political
@@randomhuman2595 everything is political
@@GodofHunter89 Congratulations! You just won the award for Most Ignorant Comment of the Day! Get this dude MIC'D up!
More like get me a beer! That’s wasn’t funny I’m sorry
I'll never understand why anyone sees the debt ceiling as anything but political sweeps week
Because it’s hardwired into the boomer brain to be scared of anything that is ‘possible’.
Exactly it’s simply projection for election cycle policy proposals
See "Road To Serfdom" (1944)
I don't know, we genuinely might need to invoke the 14th amendment this time, which would be *significant*. Republicans legitimately have nothing left to lose, so from their perspective I can see it be "We either do significant damage to the economy under a Democrat President, and force him to invoke the 14th, or we get a bunch of absurd demands met, win win for us Rs."
@Mike No, that's not what the debt ceiling is.
The budget was already approved by Congress, and the executive is obligated by law to spend on those programs. If the money raised by taxes (which are also set by Congress) doesn't cover the expenses, then the executive is forced to borrow money to bridge the difference.
The debt ceiling is a stupid restriction that forces the executive to beg Congress to give them the money they were obligated to spend in the first place. It's a dangerous charade that risks the US defaulting on its debt and causing worldwide financial distress.
The smarter move would of been for DeSantis to coast til 2028 and pass this one up. Because if he loses and he probably will, I think it hurts him down the road. I think everyone who ran against Trump in 2016 destroyed any chance they had of running again. He obliterated the other Republicans.
I don't think he would be relevant come 2028. Wokeness will die down. His lawsuit over Disney is going to destroy him.
@derickzellar6632 he doesn't have to be as relevant. He has been effective in his state, he can coast on that and run as an effective politician as he is trying to do now, but without the risk of being steamroller in the primary. Idk anyone who puts on a more popular performance in primaries than Trump.
Yeah i agree, i think trying to beat trump at his own game is a mistake. Desantis is going to be damaged goods after this loss
His only chance for redemption is if trump has a heart attack, or if trump allows desantis to run as his VP, which I actually think is trump's only chance to win the general but i doubt will happen
@@Ataraxia_Atomdesantis is running with musk lol
The best current center-left talk show is "The Adam Friedland Show."
OMG! Destiny talking politics!?!?
“Let’s have trial by combat”
Destiny v Vaush 👊💪😏
Destiny -> DeStiny -> DeStinas -> DeSantis
Therefore, DeSantis is a girl's name
IRI just villifying all conservatives makes me think he's... really not as smart as people jerk him off as being.
He hates trump but when did he vilify the average conservative?
@@Carlosdreamur "Conservatives, they just don't care, they don't care about the wellbeing of others at all. To sell anything to a conservative you need to sell it to them selfishly, because they're evil."
That's what he said.
Yay finally relevant content
This girl wants to know about conservatives and their stances on issues and about the nuance of the ideology, so she asks Destiny. Lol.
Literally screaming at my phone "Ask a conservative!" Destiny's okay (idk why he goes into "fight to the death" mode whenever you slightly mention Trump.). But I'mReallyImportant is the definition of Ignorant.
Why would you ask a conservative, they shamelessly lie about anything if it fits their interests at a given time. Destiny is a mostly good faith interlocutor who cuts through shameless conservative bs. The right person to ask.
There is no nuance, just hate
@@megatinmand5524 Theres plenty of nuance to conservative talking points. For instance if you ask conservatives about trans people and them transitioning they really dont care....as long as theyre an adult, the issue arises when its minors which is a pretty reasonable take some conservatives argue at what point that is some say 25 because thats when the brain is fully developed others argue that if theyre old enough to vote (18) theyre old enough to make that choice. Theres plenty of nuance to this discussion its not merely "hate".
@@thrash208 I guess the main problem stems from the same thing that is happening to what the right sees of the left and vice versa. On one hand you have this reasonable conservative as you said but it is clouded by the big voices such as Matt Walsh who has much harsher stances on trans people (pretty fucked opinions imo) and other large media figures. That and social media videos of conservatives or people on the right going around Target recording themselves destroying pride stuff in the store etc etc. The left has some extreme voices too and the right chooses them to focus on because they (as IRI pointed out) rise to the top of the heap and unfortunately their dogshit opinions come with them. So in the end it what essentially is taking place a lot of the time is some kind of abstracted proxy war of ideas or actions that perpetually fuel each other, we need to dismantle this horrible way of approaching politics and drown these voices out so we can finally get somewhere together. I say "we" as humans because thank god I am not living in America.
The Adam Friedland Show is the leading center-left talkshow of our time
Yeah kinda. I think Bill Maher is center left. He’s on HBO so it’s kinda alt media
@Kyle Dodson you have no idea what this comment is about. Go back to nigerian shark tank JABRONI!
@Josie
Just because he kissed Neil Degrasse Tyson doesn't make him gay.
Although he is gay.
He won't be your best friend, that role is already filled by me.
I'm gay.
Krystal at Breaking Points?
It doesn't matter if they're torn. Only one will win the nomination and the base will get behind the winner.
Exactly
@@josiahsmith7458 3rd parties rarely ever get more than a tiny fraction of the vote, and it's not like the left doesn't have 3rd parties, rfk and Manchin are both creating third parties
They should Bull and Moose themselves
This is such a seemingly innocuous point, but Desantis doesn’t have the voice to beat trump. I thought he was a really big threat and then I heard him talk… what he has in the content of his words, he lacks in presentation. And let’s be honest, that’s how people vote. It’s how trump won in the first place.
He just doesn’t sound like he believes what he’s saying
He's much more eloquent, i guess thats bad.
@@RightWingRefiree if you see videos of him interacting with constituents he’s obviously straining to smile and appear like he wants to be there haha. He’s a very good establishment republican politician. No doubt he’d do very well in most races, including the general. Unfortunately for him, he has to run against the one opponent who poses the biggest threat possible to him.
I find it hilarious that people think Trump will lose any supporters to Ron Desantis
This run will most likely ruin his political Career, he's gonna be Jeb Bushed at the end of this.
@@mac_o7 agreed
Destiny might be breathing in that DeSantis Florida air too much. He's gonna get absolutely obliterated by Trump.
I thought it a few months back but once I started seeing what an empty suit Ron is I figure he has no shot
Who cares I'm voting whoever wins the republican primary.
I just realized why when i started to get interested in American politics the right was so compelling to me.
I come from Italy, my country has been in political chaos since the 70s, when had been a democracy for a little less than thirty years.
the 70s and 80s were black and red terrorism (black = right-wing, red= left wing) with bombings and political and anti-mafia judges/activists assassinations. The 90s and 00s were Berlusconi's era = corruption, hyper-capitalism, Milan. Then years of technical governments, then a comedian creates a political party (the 5 stars movement), we had 13 years of left-wing govs, covid, and now right-wing with Meloni.
There is always chaos, corruption, mafia+church involvement; no structure.
When I look at American politics one side has little to no shape while the other is proud of the flag, the anthem, the constitution, and the foundation of the country, they are patriotic and have an identity: Freedom and 'Merica.
Coming from a country like mine, seeing structure and solidity is veeery appealing.
p.s. sorry for the soliloquy about the last 50 years of Italian politics and my very very generic statements about the American left and right.
as a fellow italian, i perfectly understand: we're all idiots so it makes sense that you would fall for the republicans humping the flag and whatever
@@francisxavier8374 I'm Canadian, and think similarly to this guy. Government, and Country are separate ideas to me. Don't have to love your gov to love your country.
I'm sorry you're blinded by propaganda, and hate yours.
Do you mind me asking what type of media you're consuming?
@@ThomasH7 I don't know if you're referring to me, I'm a woman. But anyway lol.
I can assume, and I'm pretty sure I'm right, he does not hate Italy but hates the government, as I do. In Italy, the country and the government are pretty separate in people's minds. We are very much an "I look after my own garden" kind of people.
@@gregre99 Ah my apologies, and I was referring to their comment about you falling for their humping of the flag. Some see the separation here in North America but many do not.
back in 2020:
Vaush: "Trump is a full fascist"
Destiny: "Vaush is so crazy and we need to stop using the word fascist"
in 2023:
Destiny: "Trump is a full on fascist"
damn ok
how things change.
He doesn’t engage with the far left as much anymore, so the word regained a lot of its power in dgg.
Trump is a fascist btw
He was right in 2020. All politicians are weasels, trump was just more transparent. Doesn’t make him fascist.
People need to grow a second half of a brain.. saying a conservative is a racist is IDENTICAL to calling a liberal a snowflake.
I was thinking the same thing lol.
Vaush called Bush a fascist, which is crazy
Trump 2020 and Trump 2023 are two different things keep in mind
He's not a facist btw
Hard to listen to this imreallyimportant guy
Worst take I’ve heard from this channel, as someone hear trying to hear the other side. Biden is a great unifier, steady hand on the wheel, no one complains about him…you’re not paying as much attention to the center and the right as you think man
I was pissed when I read the headlines about this “don’t say gay” bill because a lot of people that I love could be hurt by this.
Then I read the bill word for word, and it actually says that as part of an instructed curriculum you can’t teach kids under 2nd grade about sexuality. It actually says nothing about gay/straight except where it makes the distinction that it doesn’t matter what type of sexuality just that you don’t teach them about sex under that grade.
Seemed pretty reasonable to me, and every one of my friends/fam from the LGBT community feel the same. All of their friends as well.
I try to look deeper into things, because narratives are being constantly manipulated to divide us when we should be working together.
That said, I think Desantis does have some anti LGBT attitudes himself but he seems the type to adhere to the constitution as much as possible and not manipulate the law in a partisan way. That said, I’m not voting for him as I’m rooting for RFK so far … just try to stay objective about this stuff bcuz they’re dividing us on purpose so we will stay busy arguing amongst ourselves and not hold them accountable.
The establishment is the issue in my opinion, and the collusion of government & corporations needs to be addressed immediately or the constitution will fade into obscurity.
Just my 2 cents (sense)
Yeah we live in an age where people fume off of headlines. That if they only read a just a bit deeper then they'd understand. But it does also seem these are trying to address the social contagion aspect. I'm a leftist but it's gone well beyond acceptance and more along the lines of aspirational. Which for the majority of the us left or right isn't the case. Despite the huge backlash to anything to say the contrary. Esp when the commercial corporate push is nothing but empty soulless pandering to the loudest group online.
RFK is a lunatic, you'd be better off with Meatball Ron
It seems reasonable to not teach young children about sexuality until you find out that it enables pedophiles. There are countless examples of children who didn't realize they were being abused until they learned about it at school. Sex education for young children literally just means teaching them they have a right to bodily autonomy, how to communicate about consent, and how to recognize abuse and ask for help. The reality is that teaching kids about sex from a very early age makes it more difficult for pedophiles to find and groom potential victims.
@Amber W when I was a kid I just got the "your pee pee is your no no area" talk. "If someone tries to touch your privates/ tries to get you to touch theirs, that no good."
We're you aware that the bill was modified? Look at it again. It applies to students up to 12th grade.
Whoever this guy is speaking with kyla and destiny has a very low understanding of normal working class conservatives.
Intro music seems kinda loud
bruh how can Destiny say that Biden is good president is beyond me.......
Because he actually looks into politics unlike you.
@@rambo3rd471 so why people can barely afford food and rent ? if he's doing such a good job
@@namenome3680 because theres a war going on right after we came out of a global pandemic?
@@issaalaa753 Ukraine war has nothing to do with US economy get real.... pandemic that was over a year ago ? so nothing is Biden's fault right ?
This guy talking in Discord is delusional with his Biden takes. I literally had to turn the video off.
The comments are more interesting than destiny on this 😂
Having watched virtually all of Peterson's online oeuvre and having recently seen Destiny talking - Destiny is significantly more balanced than Peterson. I would enjoy seeing them discussing political issues.
Peterson's problem is that whilst his knowledge of psychological studies is deep, his political and philosophical analysis is relatively shallow. Destiny seems to immerse himself in all these fields and in areas like politics, he ends up way ahead of Peterson in terms of realistic takes on society.
I've been surprised by Destiny. I expected a blue-haired youtuber to be pretty shallow and he's defied my expectations. Congrats man, you're a sharp blue-haired cookie.
What in the hell is this music in the intro? Way too much of everything
Calling the right authoritarian, then calling for more "internet regulation" in order to censore them in the span of two minutes was wild. ImReallyImportant is ReallyAnoying when given no push back.
because it's true
bruh it was so hard to listen.....
yo who is this guy you had on, I can usually bare the guests you have on regardless of their policy beliefs, but my God this guy was so off base on literally every single position he took. forget the fact that his voice sounded like he just smoked an ounce of fent, but my God I really hope most lefties do not sincerely believe the same things this dude represented. It does show how much this country has completely sunk on terms of finding middle ground, and having any overlapping positions. If this dude is any indication of the norm thinking on the left, then I see why the country is so divided with theories consisting of no truth whatsoever. It is imperative that we start seeking out ways to successfully break the echo chambers we all clearly have become trapped in, and that is on both sides. We used to have more similarities than differences, but this dude and I believe pretty much opposite on the facts. Which is sad considering i am talking about facts. The fact he can say with a straight face that Biden is just doing a stand up job shows how out of touch he is... How can anyone say that when the price of EVERYTHING necessary to live in society has skyrocketed in the last couple years. I go to the grocery store and spend no less than $100 no matter what I get. Forget about abortion and I will even ignore the sick agenda to corrupt innocent children with the trans BS for a second, how can anyone be yippy for this administration just based on the cost of common goods. See these influencers do not care because they have money to blow, so its all hogwash to them, but I know my ideology on this is correct because all you have to do is look at anything biden posts on twitter and you will see the accurate state of the nation. Open your eyes bro, stop smoking fent, and go outside, esp. if you live in a big city I dare you to walk downtown in the middle of the night without protection these days, you wont.
IRI's really gotta know his stuff before he's so confident painting half the country as ignorant or uneducated.
30% of America is conservative. So, only a third of the country is ignorant or uneducated.
They are.
He is 😅
Yeah he just hand waved their grievances and then calls all conservatives ignorant. Look in the mirror my dude.
@@wandarah you're ignorant if you think this is a one side problem.
That Twitter Spaces tweet 😭😭 This is why I will never hate the man. The entertainment value is just too good.
I don’t get it. Never though he was funny. Maybe funny because of how stupid and boorish he is. That’s pretty much it.
Fuck Trump but that shit was funny asl😭😭 had to be an actual comedian that crafted that one up
when hitler was goin off I started dying
@@dzed5579 I didn't catch the actual Space so for maybe 10 sec before actually looking at the screen I thought it was what had really happened 😭 The old guy talking over everybody low-key felt so true to life 💀
11:00
Clearly Destiny doesn't know about the greatest center left mind in modern politics: Adam Friedland
It is interesting the different kinds of debates this will result in.
- If Trump gets the Republican nomination Destiny might have to debate more on democratic values, why rule of law is a good thing and why there isn't a mainstream cabal.
- If Desantis wins Destiny might have to debate more on liberal policies, like trans-rights or abortion or stuff like that.
We are at a fork in the road about our content-future here, fellow DGGers.
I like listening to Destiny I appreciate his point of view, and whether I agree with him or not his ability to craft a coherent argument in his favor is amazing.
I’m republican. And to be fair, Destiny has very solid points.
@@vexo9028 why are you republican with all these weirdos running the party? Do you agree with them? I used to be republican, but they have gone so far off the rails, I had to leave. 😂
I'm Republican too; very anti Trump and populism. Destiny is closer to right wing thought than 90% of these populists these days..
Except for all the lip smacking and 1hp voice
I really enjoy hearing Destiny make arguments for 2 sides of a situation. He can make both sides of a situation sound like the most rational and logical thing ever, it’s quite amazing, and at the same time scary how easy it can be to agree with him due to how he makes something sound like the only obvious conclusion.
I have observed if you give a person government assistance they don't get off of it. So more assistance the more dependent. Typically the family unit would allow people to get out of poverty or at least not be reliable on assistance. My siblings and I helped our parents and we are all doing well, especially coming from nothing. Being poor in the US isn't bad at all. We have the opportunity to get out of poverty with hard work. As Americans we are privileged and whine too much. Just get on with it. Having a victim mentality keeps you stuck.
I'm not sure I've ever heard that ImReallyImportant guy add anything helpful and true to a discussion of anything.
Yes he sucks lol
Same can be said for North Dakota lol
He was literally bringing up information throughout the entire discussion that neither destiny nor erudite were aware of.
There’s just a significant minority of people here that get ultra triggered at a hardcore dem like IRI.
People like him are why I largely can't stand left wingers. The holier-than-thou pompous attitude telling you why you should think certain things is infuriating.
Thank you. He’s such a brutally one-sided blinders-on idiotic cringe fool.
Destiny has been off politics for so long he's now got his finger a bit off the pulse. I just have to say, David Pakman ABSOLUTELY is center left. He is not far left. In the United States far left would mean you are at they VERY least "socialist friendly" if not some flavor of actual socialist. David Pakman is not a socialist, he is very pro-capitalist, he wasn't even fully on board with Medicare for all which is essentially the water line for being "progressive" and progressive isn't even far left in the USA. I consider myself moderately left, pretty progressive, and I'm very much in favor of Medicare for all. Pakman was more of a public option guy, and has always been much MUCH more moderate than Hasan, Vaush, or the other actual "socialist" far left voices. I feel like Destiny used to know this? To catch you up, Pakman is center left, most of the TYT folks are moderate left, and Vaush would be kinda the key example of where the far left on-average is at the moment. The "far" left is an extremely large gradient of course, but most of TYT don't even qualify, and Pakman doesn't REMOTELY qualify. Pakman is very much so a center left liberal.
The irony of the modern gop steering towards economic and civic ultranationalism (high tariffs on foreign imports, militant border control, restriction on both illegal and even legal immigration, isolationism) almost invariably leads to a culture of infighting and civil war where the threat comes from within (the trans,crt,etc.) hilarious yet equally tragic
Building a border wall to stop hundreds of thousands of people just walking straight into your country isn't "ultra-nationalism". Especially when US taxpayers are paying for a proxy war over Ukraine's border and building an ACTUAL border wall for Jordan in the Middle East lol. As for economic protectionism, I don't know if that will be as big a debate issue as the GLOBAL INFLATION Biden caused not just for the US but the rest of us too. It was hilarious when Democrats tried to adopt "Putin's price hike" for inflation. You know who coined that? The conservative state government of New South Wales here in Australia lol. Here it was them blaming Putin for energy price increases despite it also being a result of their policies.
I cant listen to anymore of this. Jesus
Oh my goodness the intro music was TERRIBLE and too loud. Please editor
Progressivism is super popular with the Zoomers. I think the tales here are off.
"people who want the government out of their lives as much as possible and to leave them alone" dude we literally say the same thing, how is the democratic party the party that is staying out of people's lives? you people have one argument Abortion and your argument is never fact based. licensing, taxes, gun control, socializing private industries, regulating industries, tell me how that's the party that wants to be left alone?
the abortion thing has already cooled off. a slow resentment is starting to grow from the trans movement, and chicago is starting to sound off on illegal immigrants.
Hindering trans people from getting care, banning books in schools, wanting to regulate social media, "lowering speniding and reducing taxes" despite increasing spending when they get in power, all your weird shit with tryimg to enforce christian "morality" and fucking with a private company
You’re conceptualizing this from the wrong frame of reference. I.e EPA regulations are helping leave non-business owners alone because they don’t have to deal with things like toxic leaks.
the EPA isn't leaving the business owner or property owner alone.
@@BlazinTigger I already said non-business owners. The EPA make bad business practices stay out of people’s lives. Yeah you can make more complicated arguments that they can be overly strenuous. But not having to deal with large class actions as a result of deregulations is being left alone
I live in india n yet m sooooooo hyped up to see this year's american elections
Maybe you should try watching oncoming trains more
DeSantis running wasnt exactly a suprise to me personally. It was seemingly the case that establishment Republicans were exhausted with Trump and his bullshit. DeSantis in many ways would be the Republican golden child. I'm genuinely interested if Trump stays within the party or fractures off into his own thing. Can't wait to see your analysis on this Destiny, you've been nothing but a breath of fresh air for me.
I think he made a mistake. He should have waited till next cycle when Trump is gone. I guess he has to run now because the Republican establishment wants Trump out.
Imo, as an outsider, Trump is better than Ron. Ron seems a bit authoritarian-ish when it comes to cultural issues. I can see independents and liberaterian being weary of that side of Ron. And Trump also has a stronghold of the republican party, so even if the establishment don't want him, he is still bigger than them and there is nothing they can do about it imo
There’s no chance Trump runs as an independent if he loses the nom.
@@TonyCox1351 He's gonna be running with Bernie as his VP under the Populist party.
Nah he's a diaster for them, *especially* coming after all the MAGA shit. There's still so many MAGA loyalists too that I think if Trump ever didn't get the nomination Desantis would be fucked. Turnout would be lower for him amongst republicans. Even for the reasonable republicans that hated Trump. Desentis is like 100x worse than Trump because he's way more ideological. They'd likely hate him too.
And Desantis certainly wouldn't get more of the undecideds. I think they're going lose regardless, but going with Desantis would be an absolute slaughter.
You guys keep making Biden sound like this great figure. 😅😅😅. The guy is a 700 year old man who can barely finish a sentance. Hus poll numbers are in the high 30s. The only way he wins is if Trump wins the republican nomination. I dont see him having any chance against Desantis.
That never happens. Not with McCain/Bush, not Reagan/Bush, not Obama/Hillary, not when Bernie Sanders ran, even when Trump bulldozed the 2016 candidates it didn't hurt the GOP.
Agreed. People are getting all worked up, but come November 2024 not a single person will remember Ron Desantis even ran
That's what I'm saying it's 100% normal. Kamala literally called out biden for being racist on national television and he made her vice president. Destiny pretending the guys at say daily wire like Shapiro and Walsh won't get behind President Trump if he wins the primary is laughable.
The left today think they are progressive but there not. Like climate change, for years people that lived in the country fought against city expansions, destruction of nature to put parking lots etc...for 200 years conservatives fought against expansion but in 2023 climate change and preserving nature is a new idea...read some books
which one of those matchups that you mentioned had a candidate insinuate the other was a pedophile?
@@treesoul00
I’ve heard this take a lot. Could you please how desantis is losing to Disney? Desantis and his supporters clearly want them out of the state, or at least to change their values. Even despite losing some tax money and jobs in a liberal metropolitan area, I find it extremely difficult to see this as a loss for him.
guys i think she’s canadian
32:15 How DARE YOU ask someone to give evidence to a grape accusation?!?!?
The way this guy just throws around authoritarian to lable basically anything he doesn't agree with is just the lowest of IQ takes, just regurgitation of the most braindead lefty talking points.
This dude a complete goober, its painful to hear him speak with the knowledge that he genuinely believes his takes are intelligent.
Wild stuff.
Also August needs to tone down that intro music i couldn't hear anything
bruh destiny is so crazy to think the republican party will be DESTROYED in two years
If they lose this election, republicans have only held office for 4 years Vs 16 years for democrats since 2008. The party will slowly die especially since younger voters are more left leaning
I think he is being hyperbolic.
@@onetrueliberal7862 when everything you say is hyperbolic it sure makes the Sharpshooter fallacy really easy when you hit something
well he thinks that Biden is good president and has good economic policy lmao
Respectfully, I disagree. The only reason Desantis has support is because ppl consider him a Trump-like figure. 1st I don't think Desantis wins the primary, but even if he does Republicans will pull the lever, and Trump allies will pressure him to resume Trumps policies.
Bingo
Desantis policies are much worse
22:45
What makes him a Trump-like figure? You can't just make some shit up and use "reason" in the same sentence.
@@U311.61 what makes him Trump like is his support for Trumps policies and conservative governance. He is an outspoken in his style and delivery, he is pro business, was pro-Red Flag Laws (Trump was pro bump stock ban) and was against the lockdowns. He was endorsed for governor by Donald Trump, and is viewed by many Conservatives as more respectable version of Donald Trump. There you go. Didn't make it up. See Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin for further commentary about why they prefer Ron Desantis. The election has started and it's already all about Trump.
I haven’t heard a single government representative support elective third trimester abortions. Not for their state. Not federally. I have no fucking clue why that’s brought up at all, except to only “both sides” virtue signal
Let them fight ❤
One serious question folks ? Do you guys seriously think that either the democrats or republicans care about the people ????
Out of all the videos destiny makes I would love if he has the intellectual courage to make a video on the merits of getting rid of special interest donations .
That’s a video I’m very sure he wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole
The rest of this garbage is nothing more then entertainment meant to distract us .
I guess it’s too much to ask for since no one else in TH-cam would touch this except for maybe Jimmy dore . Now that dude has the courage to say this
Finally not red pill content 😇
wierd, ive heard destiny say ''Trump is kinda fascist-ish but not even that right wing'' to ''hes a full on fascist its crazy''
There’s one way to turn this into a W, that would be Ron doing a last minute dramatic flip to be Trump’s VP, possibly energizing the base. They can technically both run on the same ticket, despite both living in Florida, there’s just some extra bs when it comes to florida delegates that I don’t really understand. Just a thought
I heard a rumor that Trump hinted his VP pick would be a woman.
I really don't see either Trump or DeSantis accepting that
Not to mention the vitriol between the 2 core bases is brutal right now. They wouldn't forgive and forget.
Okay, but it seems they've already blown their load talking shit about each other, so it would be a bit discordant to do that.
they're both too self important and narcissistic to run with each other. Not enough room for both of their egos.
What’s amazing is that you guys still think both sides aren’t different sides of the same coin .
Mossadegh would be proud ;)
I mean the left already does this idk how its any different
The difference is that left actually wins national-level elections despite its infighting
The left still manages to win elections. I refer you to 8:57
Does what?
No, not really.
Does what ?
It would be nice if this destroyed the republican party, but I think DeSantis will be steamrolled by Trump.
I really don’t think DeSantis is a big deal tbh he’s not that popular outside of Florida.
Ehhhh Republicans will be just fine. 🤷🏻♂️
Not to mention how many Floridians want him to stay as their governor.
@@ThomasH7
He changed the law so he could rum for president and be governor 😂
@@RightWingRefiree ngl bros a fascist💀
@@incognitojon902 he is not even close to a fascist please learn about what fascism is
@@SpicyPotatoes we moved on from watering down nazism, now you people don't even think Desantis is a fascist? I mean damn. He isn't a nazi but he is 100% clearly a fascist, what is happening? Wtf does fascist mean to you?
That other dude ends his sentences with a vocal fry that makes me want to give him voice lessons
Praying for the right during this dark hour
I ain't. They gotta lay in that shit stew of their own creating.
Thoughts and prayers
The current system relies most on a Stable Conservative party. This is how democracies are managed. If the Republican party falls apart that's the last thing you want. The Nick Fuentes/ MTG types will replace DeSantis/ Shapiro types.
@@mac_o7 if the Republican Party falls apart then the MTG / Nick Fuentes wing would have no power anyway since they are what’s driving a wedge to begin with.
@@mac_o7 Lols. Nick Fuentes is never gaining any ground ever. After 4 straight blowout wins by Dems in the 30's and 40's Republicans hard shifted away from the right toward the center. And stayed that way for 40 years until Reagan. That's what'll happen a million times over before Fuentes gains any ground whatsoever.
I see right splitting into two, formally and hatefully against each other no less; one crowd the more moderate, secular, but still conservative 'new' right, the other being even more radicalized alt right
It's interesting to hear folk on the left trying to explain the right's positions and just being happy with reducing it down to "party of grievances" and "fascism." I'm not on the right, nor even American - but I keep my finger on the pulse of politics (on both sides) as it affects more than just America and it's pretty clear how disingenuous some of these takes are.
Props to Erudite for being able to acknowledge that neither side is "evil" or out to "do harm" and looking to question why someone with a political belief thinks a certain way and where the motivations come from.
Desantis in particular and the Right in general is blocking black history (out of pure hatred), denying professionals from making decisions about child care/development and removing a womens bodily autonomy. Fascists are 'evil' by definition. Stop with the BS about not wanting to do harm.
Regardless of whether or not they are out to do harm, that's what conservative voters end up getting. Maybe if they actually paid attention to who they vote for and why it wouldn't be that way.
@@thealgorithmluvsu3788 Thanks for being an example and showing why Erudite deserves props for displaying a quality that most normal people outside "the internet" has.
Your 'neighbor,' whoever it may be, is almost certainly not evil, does not want to harm anyone, just wants a better life for themselves and their families. There's certainly the rare individual who does, but we're talking less than a percent of a percent of the population. Stop being brainwashed into tribal thinking by political groups and conditioned to hate "the other" - it *only* benefits politicians and it sure as shit don't benefit you.
@@meth3rlence Only a sophist or a sociopath would ignore the ultra nationalism/bigotry displayed by Desantis and his supporters. That you have the nerve to beg for compassion for people who are unnecessarily and intentionally oppressing others for their own advancement is mind boggling.
Stop hiding behind minimising terms like 'conservativism' and 'neighbour' when talking about fascists.
He's usually pretty good at framing things from any side pretty charitably. Something seems to have happened to him over the last... I dunno, month or two? But he's steadily turning into more and more of a feces throwing goblin.
in MD right now at least among the black community under 35 black women are for biden everyone else has 180'd and said get this mfer out and put trump back in office
theres going to be alot of incognito trump voters. they just dont want the social hostility of being out.
It really sucks, because from my traditionally conservative perspective, the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are indistinguishable from each other.
They both support massive government intervention.
They both support lawlessness when it's convenient for them.
They both support massive restrictions to private businesses depending on that business's political flavor.
Republicans support massive tax cuts, Democrats support massive tax-funded social programs, both of which completely reject the idea of individual fiscal responsibility.
Literally everything I care about on a national level is ignored by both parties, making the whole thing a popularity contest.
Every single president, by definition, MUST be a populist to win.
None of them want to help you.
They want to help their friends.
You're not their friends.
Make Local Government Matter Again.
I think this is why Trump had so much power, people are tired of politicians.
After 2016 I now vote for who the media hates the most of either party. For the reasons you said. Tulsi never deserved the hate she got, she would have been a good leader. If the news flips to being super anti-desantis and favoring trump in my eyes that means DeSantis is going to be better for the country. Same way rfk is getting attacked. Whoever the media wants is not going to be good for the people.
@poopoopeepee9900
It's incredibly insane how the second somebody in Destiny's community disagrees with literally anything anybody says, they IMMEDIATELY accuse them of not actually believing the things they claim to believe.
"Individual fiscal responsibility", from your perspective, refers to a business owner's obligation to simultaneously pay themselves and their shareholders. Sure. The REPUBLICAN PARTY has this same responsibility to their citizens, but outright refuse to take that into consideration when proposing tax cuts on those business owners. "Individual fiscal responsibility", in the exact context I was describing, was claiming that the "Republican Party" is a single entity that doesn't uphold their end of the tax bargain. Actually fuck off with that "larping" bullshit.
What an absolutely remedial take.
@@johnathanversteeg3666 Do you realize that you are a sheep for the media by that logic? Just going with opposite of what media wants is literally you being controlled by the media.
why would somebody not choose to be a progressive? i dont really understand why we shouldnt be deleloping new things in stem fields halp me
imreallyimportant is the exact reason why the divide exists and its really ironic how he lacks the foresight to realize when he's contradicting himself within minutes of two statements.
Cringed when he said “conservatism is just based in ignorance, they just don’t know what’s good for them”
I get his point but holy Fkn cringe bro he could try harder to not be such a condescending prick
33:00 by this guys logic wearing seatbelts is authoritarian
As the mighty enlightened centrist, IM HERE FOR IT
Lololol
@@benitkutalu2002 what's the point of your ideology?
@@benitkutalu2002 yh but it's a stupid ass question, it's like saying what's the point of your opinion
Why did you feel so comfortable calling yourself a centrist
@@incognitojon902 to bother you
0:00 maybe up the volume on Destiny lol
How exactly are these women even supposed to _prove that they were raped_ fast enough to get a legal abortion?
It takes forever to bring a case to trail even longer till the guilty-verdict, and it's not like you can wait 9+ months to sort out the paperwork...
It's meant to pacify the base who want to project empathy without having to actually commit to it. The exceptions are all red herrings. The life of the mother is fine until you realize Dr's aren't risking their licenses or freedom until you're flatlining.
To play devil's advocate, what if you don't have to prove the entire case but just perhaps the medical documentation of the rape kit proving a rape occurred? It theoretically should take place immediately after or close after so the documentation should already be there when the woman finds out she's pregnant down the road.
(Does he know that rape kits are a thing?)
@@03USMCAssault51 But a rape kit isn't prove, just a forensic analysis that can be used as evidence in court. You could have one done after consensual sex and it wouldn't tell you that.
@@halfbloodprincess989 I mean... Besides the fact that many of states have mandatory reporting laws either of the rape itself or of injury due to criminal cause, many laws can be abused... While Im not saying it would never happen I would consider it such a small percent of women would go get a rape kit done just to have an abortion as to make it a nearly meaningless and not statistically significant.
DESANTIS IS 44 YEARS OLD?!?!?!??!????? DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY
37:37 Not only did trump give people a boogie man, he also represented the American dream. Work hard, get rich, and bypass lifelong politicians and the government with the money you made because “capitalism rulezzz!!”
It’s a highly inspirational antithesis of Bootstrapping.
I realize that’s what he represented to the republicans, but in reality he inherited/stole a fortune from his father and barely had to do anything since the trump brand already existed
republicans arent split. i see 85% trump 10% desantis 5% vivek
Who will Win? or
Trick Question, Always Win
The music in the beginning was a bit much. I understand the intensity of the topic and video, but the music shouldn't be louder than Destiny himself
Economy is fine, unless you need a car, house, or a loan for anything. Interest rates are bonkers, and the FED is 100% to blame. Kicking the can down the road can't last forever.
That's been America for like 2 decades now, half the country lives pay check to pay check.
@@jackeagleeye3453 I feel like it's more than half.
As of January 2023, 60% of American adults are living paycheck to paycheck.
@@Kallisto.0 Thanks. That sucks
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Source? All evidence suggests americans making 63% more than their counterparts in 1980.
Is it finally time for the Right to get wiped out completely and rebuild behind new characters? I kinda foresaw this happening when Trump got elected. The truth is there is no platform or issue that unifies the Right anymore. Most of their tactics include being contrarian to new ideas or stalling government. I was hoping, in my lifetime, one of the major parties in the US got replaced.
the right has already taken on a new form. 2024 is going to be real interesting.
Republicans spend all their time out of power talking about how government cant fix anything, then they get into power and prove it.
They don't need an issue to unify them they have a common enemy.
I have a question. Destiny is doing the same as those Redpill guys are doing. He himself is running through chicks but preaches other men not to do it. Now , Destiny will say he don't recommend his actions to others, but my question is does that make his actions right? If a murderer kills someone and doesn't advice others not to do it, Does that make his actions ok? Isn't that hypocrisy?
You’re so, so close to getting it. What you just described is called the MAGA movement.
Iri really has no clue what he’s talking about and Destiny just fed into the bubble. Kind of sad tbh. You’re both looking at the Republican Party like it’s only alt right nazis and old people. It’s absurd.
Really enjoyed this conversation.
I feel like you guys don't understand right-wing politics at all.
The abortion issue is about whether you should have more rights than another person, to the point where you get to decide whether they live or not.
The transgender issue is about protecting youth during their most vulnerable years from an ideology that ruins lives.
Steven Crowder and the Daily Wire having a dispute doesn't matter at all. It's fairly obvious at a glance who's in the wrong there, and it's just a contractual dispute between entities.
Who 'dunks on the libs' is funny, but ultimately meaningless. Twitter isn't nearly as meaningful as you're making it out to be.
And Trump v DeSantis has a 0% chance of ripping the party apart. Both are infinitely better options than anyone on the other side.
that guy's whole argument was basically just "yeah republicans and conservatives are crazy because all these newer issues that they have concerns over are all boogeyman fake problems and they just don't like change." Like bruh, that's one of the most bad faith engagements of a topic I've ever heard. Bro is straight up gaslighting the audience and doing that whole andrew tate thing where he says one modicum of reasonable truth to get the viewers on board and then uses that as a tactic to then springboard his future statements with more validity. Bro said that fentanyl is a boogeyman issue, like bro I live in one of the most progressive cities in America and the addiction and homelessness has been on an exponential climb ever since Covid started. I've never seen the streets this bad and most people who live here will tell you that it has gotten a lot worse in recent memory. If conservatives have a problem with worrying about supposed non issues and putting all their energy into those so much then the Democrats/progressives have a problem with almost flat-out ignoring issues that genuinely need attention because they view said issues as things conservatives care about thus look the other way and pretend like they're not happening. fuck conservatives am I right? They're all racist fascists apparently and anything that they're concerned about is obviously something will stop progress. BOTH the progressives and the conservatives have been putting way too much energy into the whole trans issue. Both are using it to fear monger and both are letting it distract people from the things that affect everybody, not just the LGBTQ community.
Intros are sick af lately, well done
How does destiny consider matt walsh (who works at daily wire) center right but David Pakman far left? Wtf happened to destiny?
Overturning Roe vs. Wade is the largest political miscalculation I've ever seen in my lifetime.
It’s what Republicans/conservatives have wanted for years. It’s just a goal theyve had that’s finally achieved but it came during like the worst possible time.
Supreme Court justices are pretty insulated from political calculations by design. We don't want them making rulings based on public opinion of an issue. We want them to rule on the existing law and facts of the case.
@@spacetoast7783 I agree with you in principle. Unfortunately that decision will be the most effective Democrat rallying cry for the foreseeable future.
In practice, if the court were truly apolitical Roe would've never passed in the first place.
Parents are against children being pulled into Adult spaces and conversation. Children exposed to things other than education at school.
Xanderhal loop activated
Yes 👏 - Destiny gets huge props from me for actually reading the bills in FL, which I also did. If you want to show the left how they’re being lied to, ask them to read the bills themselves.
I know this is a stupid and googleable question, but how do you go about finding newly passed or processing bills? I would like to start reading them too, instead of mindlessly leeching off other's political opinions.
How'd you get started?
He doesn't get a pass for being an idiot when it comes to conservatives view points or what they actually want.
why destiny move to a semi republican state to push his libs laws though?
@@jmh4ggg literally just search up the bill some are a little hard to read
I read the bills and they are disgusting and just as bad at allowing the worst case scenarios that every leftist who I hate believes might happen.
I don't understand how the hell DeSantis became popular. Republican voters are wild.
Well i can see why. DeSantis is Trump if Trump had a brain basically. So obviously having someone competent in office is better than a fool
I loved this talk. I’m a lefty but listening to libs talk about this brings me back to reality and helps keep me grounded. Thanks destiny
thanks destiny for allowing me to download your opinions
If this is the furthest right content you’re willing to explore then you’re not actually that grounded
None of your liberal friends could ever save you from radicalism. Not even Destiny will be powerful enough to save you. It’s why most liberals end up running away to the Republican Party…
Imreally (not)important is just a woke loony
This is the most smug and disconnected discussion ive ever heard
Cope
Cope
The first half was okay but after more ppl joined it became loony
Thinking the right wing is fractured over desantis and trump shows how disconnected these people are. We have popcorn. You all have fleeing neighbors and family in your blue states. This conversation couldn't be more backwards but what do you expect from 80 iq commies
Us trump supporters know that the only reason why desantis is governor in the first place is because of trump endorsement.
As someone starting to lean conservative last few years, who's still pretty well in the middle after 20 years of being on the left, I'd say I prefer DeSantis over Trump if I'm forced to choose one. I don't care about party affiliation or what someone does in their personal life, I care about is the country I live in getting better or worse. If Biden was crushing it doing great and Democrats were making more sense, I'd gladly vote for them but they've lost me the last few years. Most conservatives are just gonna vote for Trump or DeSantis whoever wins between the 2. Trump will do better with men, DeSantis will do better with women and the primary will probably be a pretty close victory for Trump.
17:00 ?????? what lol... "people will vote for Dems cuz they want the Government to stay out of their lives".... dude did you just live through covid? They are also pushing for higher taxes and heating inflation. He was right about abortion being a winning topic for Dems tho and that's why they slam it so hard. The right will need to come towards the middle on abortion he was right about that.
Ultimately it comes down to what people want the government to intervene in. Dems see the repubs as wanting to control their lives via abortion laws, drug laws, immigration laws, and laws against child sex changes. Repubs see the dems trying to control their lives by forcing them to pay higher taxes and indoctrinating their kids with critical theory and grooming them to be LGBTQ
if this last years made you go from democratic to republican you might actually be mentally retarded.
De Santis sound like Joe Rogan, coincidence?