As a 52yo runner, today's technology has allowed me to run more mileage, race faster and remain injury free. The over 50 runner that can wear minimalist shoes without injury is very rare.
Really important show. The Xero shoes are good. Midsole strike. It requires lots practice for good form for soft landings. I didn't take it seriously enough anyway: bad diet. I had spill on a kickbike a few years back and pretty sure I got a concussion, back of head. So it's walking and cycling now. Oh, and I got super pair of shoes way back around 2012 by Brooks called Green Silence. What turned me toward all of it was someone who promoted Huraches: Christopher McDougal, on NPR, website, etc, around 2009. Thanks again Dr McConell.
I think it’s a highly debated topic and you’ve already mentioned that you’ll interview people with other opinions. This shows that science isn’t black and white and all depends on context and population. For me myself, I recognised big improvement in hip stability and pain with improving my feet strength. I walk a lot with minimal footwear and run with shoes with a natural wide shoe box.
Dr McConnel. I swear I wrote my first entry right after your intro. Anyway. I am only now discovering you bought the Xeros. I am glad to see you have hope.
Just finished listening. Going to listen again. I barefoot walk indoors on a wood floor, 6-8 k steps per day. It's too uncomfortable to walk outdoors in shoes, even in minimalist shoes. I don't know why. Maybe something to do with being 70, ankle issues, and shoes.
I'm just over half way through and enjoying the interview. I slightly react to one thing and that is the claim that prehistoric man didn't run long distances and that we were not made for that. It is called "persistence hunting" and could reach marathon distances. The evidence of this is pretty undeniable. I'm slightly disappointed that someone whose experise is based on prehistoric man doesn't seem to be aware of this. But that said, all she says makes sense and I agree. I run in barefoot shoes. No big deal.
This seems like a departure from the usual science-based podcast to opinion-based. To adjust to minimalist footwear I would recommend reading about the collagen-building experiments by Keith Baar. A lot of elite runners train on dirt roads, and at longer distances like marathon they tend to heel strike.
I never saw an elite marathon runner heel strike. And I've watched more than one podcast by now about this topic with experts in their fields - so far they all agree. Heel striking is simply bad form. There are also multiple factors at work. The super minimalist shoes require quite some getting used to but a low drop, slightly cushioned shoe will very much improve technique almost automatically. I did train in a Brooks Ghost with 13 mm drop, tried to transition to forefoot/midfoot striking until I could run 10k with this technique. Then I switched to a Asics J33, a discontinued model with low stack and 6 mm drop. My technique improved instantly and knee pain was completely erased. Heel striking can work for a while on softer surfaces, just like Dr. Davis explains in the podcast. But on concrete or asphalt, you really need to use proper form. I still like some cushioning BTW. But I very much dislike stiff, overly cushioned (marshmallow style) shoes with a high drop. Most awful experience I had was running 10k in a New Balance "Fresh Foam X" 840. That shoe is just good for standing or maybe slow walking (think sales clerk or nurse) but not for running. Especially when you're a heavier runner like myself.
Listening to the whole thing, she does sound a bit more reasonable and a bit more scientific. Speculating on research, I think people may do well with minimalist shoes on 10-minute workouts and maximalist shoes (cushioned and/or supportive) for longer runs.
Appreciate this podcast (and all of them really). N=1 but switching to minimalist shoes in my daily life and running barefoot helped me get over chronic ankle problems due to some nasty injuries playing college sports. The ankle bad was recalcitrant to anything else I tried including rest, (limited) rehab, various types of orthotics and motion control shoes. The pain was severe enough that I couldn't stand for an hour straight or play tennis anymore, but it steadily improved once I tried the minimal shoe intervention. I think there are many compelling reasons to pursue this research direction, both from the born to run perspective to the experiences of people for whom it was helpful.
As a 52yo runner, today's technology has allowed me to run more mileage, race faster and remain injury free. The over 50 runner that can wear minimalist shoes without injury is very rare.
Really important show. The Xero shoes are good. Midsole strike. It requires lots practice for good form for soft landings. I didn't take it seriously enough anyway: bad diet. I had spill on a kickbike a few years back and pretty sure I got a concussion, back of head. So it's walking and cycling now. Oh, and I got super pair of shoes way back around 2012 by Brooks called Green Silence. What turned me toward all of it was someone who promoted Huraches: Christopher McDougal, on NPR, website, etc, around 2009. Thanks again Dr McConell.
I think it’s a highly debated topic and you’ve already mentioned that you’ll interview people with other opinions. This shows that science isn’t black and white and all depends on context and population. For me myself, I recognised big improvement in hip stability and pain with improving my feet strength. I walk a lot with minimal footwear and run with shoes with a natural wide shoe box.
Dr McConnel. I swear I wrote my first entry right after your intro. Anyway. I am only now discovering you bought the Xeros. I am glad to see you have hope.
Thank you!
Dr Davis knows how to promote lasting behavior-pattern change.
Thanks!
Thank you Stephen. Very nice of you.
Just finished listening. Going to listen again. I barefoot walk indoors on a wood floor, 6-8 k steps per day. It's too uncomfortable to walk outdoors in shoes, even in minimalist shoes. I don't know why. Maybe something to do with being 70, ankle issues, and shoes.
I'm just over half way through and enjoying the interview.
I slightly react to one thing and that is the claim that prehistoric man didn't run long distances and that we were not made for that. It is called "persistence hunting" and could reach marathon distances. The evidence of this is pretty undeniable. I'm slightly disappointed that someone whose experise is based on prehistoric man doesn't seem to be aware of this.
But that said, all she says makes sense and I agree. I run in barefoot shoes. No big deal.
Tulip poplar bark or cork inner soles, flat, and a decent canvas upper, thin natural rubber outer soles. My dream shoes.
This seems like a departure from the usual science-based podcast to opinion-based. To adjust to minimalist footwear I would recommend reading about the collagen-building experiments by Keith Baar. A lot of elite runners train on dirt roads, and at longer distances like marathon they tend to heel strike.
I never saw an elite marathon runner heel strike. And I've watched more than one podcast by now about this topic with experts in their fields - so far they all agree. Heel striking is simply bad form.
There are also multiple factors at work. The super minimalist shoes require quite some getting used to but a low drop, slightly cushioned shoe will very much improve technique almost automatically. I did train in a Brooks Ghost with 13 mm drop, tried to transition to forefoot/midfoot striking until I could run 10k with this technique. Then I switched to a Asics J33, a discontinued model with low stack and 6 mm drop. My technique improved instantly and knee pain was completely erased.
Heel striking can work for a while on softer surfaces, just like Dr. Davis explains in the podcast. But on concrete or asphalt, you really need to use proper form. I still like some cushioning BTW. But I very much dislike stiff, overly cushioned (marshmallow style) shoes with a high drop. Most awful experience I had was running 10k in a New Balance "Fresh Foam X" 840. That shoe is just good for standing or maybe slow walking (think sales clerk or nurse) but not for running. Especially when you're a heavier runner like myself.
@@MrSeedi76the elite marathoners aren't slamming on their heels, it's a gentle controlled technique.
Listening to the whole thing, she does sound a bit more reasonable and a bit more scientific. Speculating on research, I think people may do well with minimalist shoes on 10-minute workouts and maximalist shoes (cushioned and/or supportive) for longer runs.
Appreciate this podcast (and all of them really). N=1 but switching to minimalist shoes in my daily life and running barefoot helped me get over chronic ankle problems due to some nasty injuries playing college sports. The ankle bad was recalcitrant to anything else I tried including rest, (limited) rehab, various types of orthotics and motion control shoes. The pain was severe enough that I couldn't stand for an hour straight or play tennis anymore, but it steadily improved once I tried the minimal shoe intervention. I think there are many compelling reasons to pursue this research direction, both from the born to run perspective to the experiences of people for whom it was helpful.
@@PerryScanlonHi Perry. Just wondering which bits you thought Irene wasn’t scientific/evidence based? Thanks.
Interval running.