There's also the "Mastering Diabetes" way of eating, where the fat (especially SFA) is reduced to under 10% of one's diet, and then carbs can be eaten in large quantities with great insulin response and sensitivity. Many people have reversed their type two , while type one have been able to substantially reduce their insulin dosage.
I think it's terrible how many people on here recommend eating a lot of red meat to help lower blood sugar. These people fail to grasp that saturated fats increase insulin resistance.
It is so easy to believe some of those influencers, like Peter Attia mentioned by Nicola, once they use some sort of "study" to back up whatever point they make. Most of us don't know whether or not those studies are faulty, or exist at all. It is great to hear what really might be happening in the body from actual experts carrying out research and writing articles. Thanks Glenn!
From someone that used one for 14 days, I'd say make them cheap as chips and it should / would... not only benefit the end user, but could save the health care system spending millions on treatment. Prevention is always better than the cure. Thank you for uploading and sharing.
Dr McConell. Excellent discussion. I want to recommend someone on youtube I know you will like. His name is Mario Kratz. He holds a PhD and specializes in diabetes, I think. His channel is Nourished by Science. He's a carb guy. He discusses how to eat carbs and how to use and avoid using CGMs, and much more. BTW, I hope you are running now! I just saw your chat with Dr Davis. She is amazing! I wish she were my coach 15 years ago. I also have a chronically sore left calf. And a weak right hip. So many mistakes. So much I didn't know. So much I will never know. She had it right: keep young people out of the cushy high-heeled running shoes.
A wonderful contribution with outstanding knowledge from experts. This is so important in today's world full of so-called experts! Peter Attia has now corrected himself many times (Metformin, fasting, low carb, ZONE2 etc.). On the one hand commendable, on the other hand a dangerous thing. As confidently as he proclaims everything, it is just as dangerous when he retracts a lot of things... Thank you very much!
I agree, Perter Attia and Rhonda Patrick are always saying they can make you live longer even though they do give some good advice in the videos but quoting good science to support your click bait claims is just wrong. Take it all with a grain of salt.
I would think a CGM might be reassuring to see a normal glucose spike (if informed) and also seeing how fiber reduces spikes without trying to cut back on carbs.
I'm type one the only way to control my blood sugars is low carb/mostly carnivore. But I cringe when people who don't know what it like to have the problems of someone who been type one for 28 years and tries to say you are depriving yourself, like the lady says 'cutting out all the foods you like'. Well I would like to correct her and re-frame that as 'all the food you are addicted to' around 44:50. For me the bottom line is you either limit your diet or limit your life by going blind or having your feet cut off. There is no way to having your cake and eating it as far as I can see, and being able to see is more rewarding then pigging out on processed crap. By our very nature eating carbs inspires gluttony, and trust me it not a good look either and can lead to mental illness especially if you avoid animal fat.
@@insideexercise Glucose Goddess is the one who appears to be obsessed with the idea that flattening and lowering glucose spikes is a key to realizing good health. I think she's well intentioned, but misguided. I don't think it's wise to take on unbalanced people in public (and this might be one); it's best to study them quietly and not name them in public. I have pointed people who've been unknowingly misinformed on here, to Nicola's work before. I'm one of the athletes. I've been told that "weight loss and exercise slaughters all else"; and my body fat has become so low that my ribs are protruding (esp when I do more than half an hour of cardio in a day), but my blood sugar is always at a slightly prediabetic level, and the weight loss hadn't helped as much as expected. We're trying to figure out if this is a chronic hepatic problem or not. The overnight glucose reading has been higher than the two and the three hour.
So when you go very low carb, you are less able to controle bloodsugar when eating carbs. But what about bloodsugar made by the liver. Is it likewise more difficult to take up by the cells. Will your fasting bloodglucose go up as a result? If so, does your fasting insulin also go up as well?
We need a summary. Confused the heck out of me. When Insulin is higher and longer than others people then it is diabetes. When the pancreas is not secreting Insulin for glucose presence meaning there is a deficiency of Insulin, it is diabetes. Which one is really diabetes, or is it both conditions?
The assertion I hear repeated in this discussion about people reducing their intake of healthy carbs, in response to elevated glucose detected by their cgm, is so ridiculous to me. What percentage of the western population is getting their spikes from healthy carbs like veggies and fruits and pulses? Versus, what percentage is getting their spikes from flour based and refined sugars based processed foods? Let's be real.
I find it amusing that when Nicola critizices Peter Attia's interpretation of a study on glucose, she so completely butchers the description of what the study did that I have no idea what she is saying. It just goes to show how easy it is to misinterpret what someone else is saying on a podcast and judging them as "utterly misguided at best". Come on, do better.
@@4plum Check out 1:10:57 where she describes the study Peter apparently misinterpreted. She says "they did is gave people 5 mmol/liter..." without specifying WHAT they gave. Did they inject glucose? Did they give them a carb shake to induct that glucose concentration? It's just impossible to understand what she supposedly does not agree with.
I don't like any of Peter's videos. Not always because I feel the content is poor, but rather, the, "The world according to Peter Attia" approach. Notice how there's links to supplements, books, and potions, in the header of every one of the videos, but never any clinical trials or studies?
I take protein powder because I dont what to eat that many meals but I want to spread the protein intake out over the day so I have 25g first thing in the morning and believe it or not I sometimes use it as a coffee creamer with coco powder and heavy cream like a frappuccino before a 6 hr hike at 5am. It tastes REALLY GOOD. But when i was young I could exercise on a full stomach but now I get acid reflux.
I like the keto like hacks of turning coffee into a some form of superdense food with cream and protein powder. Layne Norton did some research protein through out the day to prove he was best with 6 meals a day as powerlifter. Then he found out it did not matter. A good example of the type of person you want testing a null hypothesis, then again only 1 study.
@@bobo-cc1xw I started spreading my protein intake out 3 times a day when Glenn McConell and one of the guests on this channel said it should be done. I don't always remember to do it but I try. I generally only eat once or twice a day.
What if healthy person starts using exagonus insulin just to prevent his beta cells from "burning"? In bodybulding this is very common practice, because of the use of HGH, but still.
Listened partly with disappointment as true candidate to explain cardiovascular disease and low carb effect is for example dr. Ford Brewer - this would modify this discussion w Nicola Guess greatly (insert exclamation point). Generalist and YouTubist popular such as Attia is incorrect example - not an expert in the matter. Glucose spike and glucose plateau indeed are proxies for insulin baseline (read GCM).
Can someone please explain is this is good or bad I can get blood glucose spikes of 190 45 mins after eating raw honey or other things at times My fasting insulin is 3 I was vegan for 9 years and my A1c was always 5.4 I went animal based for the last 4 months and my A1c went to 5.7 Should I be working about them blood sugar spikes if my fasting insulin stays good? My sugar doesn’t spike like that all the time, mainly in the morning when I eat honey and raw dairy But it has happened durithe day at times, but not often
There's also the "Mastering Diabetes" way of eating, where the fat (especially SFA) is reduced to under 10% of one's diet, and then carbs can be eaten in large quantities with great insulin response and sensitivity. Many people have reversed their type two , while type one have been able to substantially reduce their insulin dosage.
so are you one that practices their method ?
I think it's terrible how many people on here recommend eating a lot of red meat to help lower blood sugar. These people fail to grasp that saturated fats increase insulin resistance.
It is so easy to believe some of those influencers, like Peter Attia mentioned by Nicola, once they use some sort of "study" to back up whatever point they make. Most of us don't know whether or not those studies are faulty, or exist at all. It is great to hear what really might be happening in the body from actual experts carrying out research and writing articles. Thanks Glenn!
From someone that used one for 14 days, I'd say make them cheap as chips and it should / would... not only benefit the end user, but could save the health care system spending millions on treatment.
Prevention is always better than the cure.
Thank you for uploading and sharing.
Thanks, all. Another great episode, Glenn.
Excellent and informative. Both interviewees were really helpful. Thanks
Thanks for doing these podcasts, really helpful and much appreciated. Interesting critique of Peter Attia too!
Dr McConell. Excellent discussion. I want to recommend someone on youtube I know you will like. His name is Mario Kratz. He holds a PhD and specializes in diabetes, I think. His channel is Nourished by Science. He's a carb guy. He discusses how to eat carbs and how to use and avoid using CGMs, and much more. BTW, I hope you are running now! I just saw your chat with Dr Davis. She is amazing! I wish she were my coach 15 years ago. I also have a chronically sore left calf. And a weak right hip. So many mistakes. So much I didn't know. So much I will never know. She had it right: keep young people out of the cushy high-heeled running shoes.
awesome i really liked Jonathan little on last time and Nicola Guess from other things.
As usual grateful you do these!
A wonderful contribution with outstanding knowledge from experts. This is so important in today's world full of so-called experts! Peter Attia has now corrected himself many times (Metformin, fasting, low carb, ZONE2 etc.). On the one hand commendable, on the other hand a dangerous thing. As confidently as he proclaims everything, it is just as dangerous when he retracts a lot of things... Thank you very much!
I agree, Perter Attia and Rhonda Patrick are always saying they can make you live longer even though they do give some good advice in the videos but quoting good science to support your click bait claims is just wrong. Take it all with a grain of salt.
Strong opinions, weakly held.
Tim Noakes would disagree about the need for carbs for exercise. He has done a 180 degree turn from his earlier view.
I like Nicola and loved her closing comment
I would think a CGM might be reassuring to see a normal glucose spike (if informed) and also seeing how fiber reduces spikes without trying to cut back on carbs.
I'm type one the only way to control my blood sugars is low carb/mostly carnivore. But I cringe when people who don't know what it like to have the problems of someone who been type one for 28 years and tries to say you are depriving yourself, like the lady says 'cutting out all the foods you like'. Well I would like to correct her and re-frame that as 'all the food you are addicted to' around 44:50. For me the bottom line is you either limit your diet or limit your life by going blind or having your feet cut off. There is no way to having your cake and eating it as far as I can see, and being able to see is more rewarding then pigging out on processed crap. By our very nature eating carbs inspires gluttony, and trust me it not a good look either and can lead to mental illness especially if you avoid animal fat.
Great video! People like the Glucose Goddess should be addressed.
@@dan-qe1tb I’m very pleased that you enjoyed it! Tbh I hadn’t heard of her and had to Google it. Hmmmm.
@@insideexercise Glucose Goddess is the one who appears to be obsessed with the idea that flattening and lowering glucose spikes is a key to realizing good health. I think she's well intentioned, but misguided. I don't think it's wise to take on unbalanced people in public (and this might be one); it's best to study them quietly and not name them in public. I have pointed people who've been unknowingly misinformed on here, to Nicola's work before. I'm one of the athletes. I've been told that "weight loss and exercise slaughters all else"; and my body fat has become so low that my ribs are protruding (esp when I do more than half an hour of cardio in a day), but my blood sugar is always at a slightly prediabetic level, and the weight loss hadn't helped as much as expected. We're trying to figure out if this is a chronic hepatic problem or not. The overnight glucose reading has been higher than the two and the three hour.
So when you go very low carb, you are less able to controle bloodsugar when eating carbs.
But what about bloodsugar made by the liver. Is it likewise more difficult to take up by the cells. Will your fasting bloodglucose go up as a result? If so, does your fasting insulin also go up as well?
Very useful👍
@@TheWolfAkella Good to hear 👍
We need a summary. Confused the heck out of me. When Insulin is higher and longer than others people then it is diabetes. When the pancreas is not secreting Insulin for glucose presence meaning there is a deficiency of Insulin, it is diabetes. Which one is really diabetes, or is it both conditions?
The assertion I hear repeated in this discussion about people reducing their intake of healthy carbs, in response to elevated glucose detected by their cgm, is so ridiculous to me. What percentage of the western population is getting their spikes from healthy carbs like veggies and fruits and pulses? Versus, what percentage is getting their spikes from flour based and refined sugars based processed foods? Let's be real.
I find it amusing that when Nicola critizices Peter Attia's interpretation of a study on glucose, she so completely butchers the description of what the study did that I have no idea what she is saying. It just goes to show how easy it is to misinterpret what someone else is saying on a podcast and judging them as "utterly misguided at best". Come on, do better.
I understood what she was saying.
@@4plum Check out 1:10:57 where she describes the study Peter apparently misinterpreted. She says "they did is gave people 5 mmol/liter..." without specifying WHAT they gave. Did they inject glucose? Did they give them a carb shake to induct that glucose concentration? It's just impossible to understand what she supposedly does not agree with.
I don't like any of Peter's videos. Not always because I feel the content is poor, but rather, the, "The world according to Peter Attia" approach. Notice how there's links to supplements, books, and potions, in the header of every one of the videos, but never any clinical trials or studies?
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I take protein powder because I dont what to eat that many meals but I want to spread the protein intake out over the day so I have 25g first thing in the morning and believe it or not I sometimes use it as a coffee creamer with coco powder and heavy cream like a frappuccino before a 6 hr hike at 5am. It tastes REALLY GOOD.
But when i was young I could exercise on a full stomach but now I get acid reflux.
I like the keto like hacks of turning coffee into a some form of superdense food with cream and protein powder.
Layne Norton did some research protein through out the day to prove he was best with 6 meals a day as powerlifter. Then he found out it did not matter. A good example of the type of person you want testing a null hypothesis, then again only 1 study.
@@bobo-cc1xw I started spreading my protein intake out 3 times a day when Glenn McConell and one of the guests on this channel said it should be done. I don't always remember to do it but I try. I generally only eat once or twice a day.
What if healthy person starts using exagonus insulin just to prevent his beta cells from "burning"? In bodybulding this is very common practice, because of the use of HGH, but still.
Wow that’s pretty messed up. I wasn’t aware of that.
A professor who can't pronounce etcetera is somewhat concerning.
Listened partly with disappointment as true candidate to explain cardiovascular disease and low carb effect is for example dr. Ford Brewer - this would modify this discussion w Nicola Guess greatly (insert exclamation point). Generalist and YouTubist popular such as Attia is incorrect example - not an expert in the matter. Glucose spike and glucose plateau indeed are proxies for insulin baseline (read GCM).
Can someone please explain is this is good or bad
I can get blood glucose spikes of 190 45 mins after eating raw honey or other things at times
My fasting insulin is 3
I was vegan for 9 years and my A1c was always 5.4
I went animal based for the last 4 months and my A1c went to 5.7
Should I be working about them blood sugar spikes if my fasting insulin stays good?
My sugar doesn’t spike like that all the time, mainly in the morning when I eat honey and raw dairy
But it has happened durithe day at times, but not often
Good discussion. Why are you whispering though? Lol
Jessie Inchauspe (aka the Glucose goddess) could add much to this conversation. It would be interesting to hear you interview her as well.
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The demonising of potatoes is probably due to the glycemic index.