Proper & Correct Tie Length Explained - How To Tutorial For Stylish Men
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- Back in the day, ties were purely decorative and served no functional purpose; the only goal of it was to make you look good.
- Today, ties have definitely gotten longer but the overall length of the tie is hugely impacted by the balance between your front wide blade and back slim blade.
1. Front blade is as long as the back blade
2. Front blade be much longer than the back blade
3. Back blade much longer than the front
Because a tie has a fixed length, this balance really impacts how long your tie will be when it's tied.
But it's not all, other factors that affect the length are what knot you choose, what kind of tie you have, does it have a thick interlining? It's very thick if so, it creates a thick knot. For a thinner tie, it creates a thinner knot and therefore the tie is longer.
When your tie is overall very short, it provides you a vintage look or in the worst case, it can make you look like a child. So keep that in mind if you like very short ties.
So when the wide front blade is much longer than the back blade, chances are that it extends past your waistband and it peeks out underneath of your jacket, that's visually distracting because people look down and the triangular shape of the tie highlights your crotch which is very disadvantageous.
Personally, I don't use a keeper but I also prefer to tie my tie so both blades have about the same length. That way, it looks a little more casual, a little more nonchalant and it's a look that I personally enjoy.
So should you use a keeper or not? Well, traditionally it was something that was used by people but if you look at elegant men today, they oftentimes want the more sprezzatura feel with their tie and they intentionally do not use that keeper loop in the back.
Again, the way you wear your tie is an expression of your individual style and there's absolute no right or wrong. What matters is that you do it consciously and that you can repeat it every single time.
Another important element of the tie beside the length is the tie dimple.
So what's the proper and correct tie length for you?
Personally, I think it's best when the front blade and back blade tips are roughly the same length and just reach the waistband of your pants. Now, think about that for a second, every pair of pants is different, it has a slightly different rise and in combination with every tie being different, there are lots of variations. Some others argue the tips should be slightly longer and reach the buttonhole. Others shorter, some like it longer and past the waistband.
I like the waistband idea because that way, the tie does not peek out from underneath your jacket and it focus the viewer's attention to your face because of the V-shape of your jacket and the tie on top.
Unfortunately, most ties don't come in a general length and so you actually have to try things out until you find out what works for you and what doesn't. It takes a lot of trial and error and you have to practice but once you know what length your tie is and how long it has to be with a particular knot, it's going to be much easier for you to get the tie length right.
So what does that mean for a proper tie length? No one will win this argument because there's no absolute right or wrong, what matters is what you personally like.
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Seven minutes of tie length. Now that is quality.
I love suits! I wear suits all day, everyday!! 💕👔 I love wearing 1940’s style suits! I love your channel!
i would suggest therapy
@@sakshamthenarwal what do you mean?
I like the tie to be around the belt area. in the middle or at the top edge is fine for me.
whenever I get a new tie, be it short or long, I always try to tie it a few times before the day I'm going to use it. that way I know how to tie it when the day comes, and I don't risk being late for work, because I had problems with the tie 👐
I like the full Windsor knot cause it's so nice and even. It doesn't look so crooked compared to other knots. I also tighten the knot so it doesn't look so big.
The Pratt knot is also symmetrical, and it's smaller than the Windsor. He links to his instructional towards the end of this video
Exactly, i do the same. Its the only knot you need. All the people who say its for wide spread collar is outdated. Like you said, and like i do also, you can tighten it and make it smaller so it suits any collar you have. I personally like it big no matter what collar you have. To suit elite are wrong to say its only good for certain shirt collars only. The full Windsor knot is the best knot of all time period.
Windsor knot is my preference 👌🏻
You made my day. Thanks so much
I use the double Windsor knot because my grandad taught me when I was a child, so every morning I tie my tie I think about him and is like to honor him
Top video, so well produced with such a lot of good info. Thank you. :)
thank you . helped me
Nice touch with the cheap keeper :) right on point i might add :-)
One of the most distracting looks on a man is when his tie peeks out from under his jacket. Some might consider it casual and a good look. Personally, I think it breaks the clean lines and men should start wearing vests again. Bring on back the styles of the 1920's!
Well when men wore waistcoats daily, it made sense to tie the tie a shorter length to avoid it from peeking out from below the waistcoat. I guess tie length became longer once the waistcoat went out of style and 2 piece suits were in.
@@alexdickey9542 if wearing a wasitcoat, especially a more high breasted one there was no need for long ties since it would all be covered by the waistcoat anyways, so ties were just long enough to tuck into the waistcoat below without popping out
Make tie length great again
Fantastic video I agree that the proper length would be just above the waist band this length give your look total balance if for example one end of the tie extends far beyond the other it simply throws your attire off balance people eyes will be drawn to that fact and no matter how well coordinated your outfit is when your accessories are at war with your suit in this case just doesn't look well symmetry is important when putting a look together when something looks out of place then you have defeated your purpose thanks for the video fine summation.
Can you do a video on brands of ties
Love you sir
G Easy back at it again
I like to tie my tie just above the waistband and i use a windsor knot because it works with slim ties.
I’ve only got the american knot down so far and even then have had trouble getting it how I like it except for a few times. Getting the knot symmetrical is tricky too but practicing nonetheless.
Personally - front blade tip just hitting the bottom of the belt. Rear blade just above the belly button, or a few inches past the keeper is fine. Since I am over 6 foot, this means a 63 inch tie. Also since I am a bigger guy - a 3.5 inch width on the front blade. Not every place sells Long ties with 3.5 widths. Custom made is wonderful.
Mr Schneider,
Is the dimple really right? as it is indeed a crease, I would not bet it is always right, yet what do you think about it, please?
Thank you.
JLD
I am working on making custom length ties especially for big and tall men because the standard tie is only 58"-59" My personal Ties that i have made for me are 70"
Mr. Aaron Marino is the foundation of gentlemen's style and class.
Mr. Antonio Centeno is the skyscrapper of gentlemen's style and class.
And Mr. Sven Raphael Schneider is the epitome of gentlemen's style and class.
For everyone raging about how Raphael showed a photo of Mr. Trump, you would be heartened after you check out his video about vests/undershirts.....
Mr. Schneider and what about the tie length? Can you wear a knit tie which is probably 7cm wide with a suit with lapels which are over 7cm or 9cm wide?
Dear Sir, How do you tie a tie with two different patterns , with the different pattern on the small end?
Beautiful jacket, has a 1940s-1950s look to it. Bespoke or vintage?
He bought it vintage. He said it in one of his other videos.
My "problem", if you want to call it that, is that I have several vintage skinny ties that I'm determined to wear. I'm hoping to find a suit that would look good with my ties and cufflinks. These are 1950s-60s era ties. At least I think they are. What is the right type of suit to wear with this kind of tie? Thanks for your videos and help. I'm retiring soon and need to get suited up. I currently wear shorts to work every day and seldom dress up. I'm a TV news photographer. That'll all change when I retire. Dressing up will be part of the retired me. Thanks.
If my ties end up being too long, I usually go for a double four in hand to keep it at the top of my belt.
Raphael because of you I know dress very dapper and most importantly correctly! So glad I found your channel a year ago!!!
You are welcome. Thanks for the support!
Nice
The knot that looks best is dependent on your size. A big knot on a big man can look great compared to a small knot and vice versa for skinny or shorter guys.
I personally like the tie to be 1cm above the waste (still below belly button) and the back part to be about 2-3cm higher than the front.
I'm a tall guy with a thick neck and athletic build so the classic look does well for me. So the thick not is the way to go and the tie has to come from a big and tall store.
Pick a knot first that works for your size and shape. Then go on the hunt for the correct tie to do it with. Switching knots to adjust for length after you buy the tie can result in fail.
Personally I prefer a full Windsor with the tie to the waist and a tie tack in the middle of the tie rarely use a tie bar.
From what I've read, a larger knot is most ideal for a spread collar shirt. And given that larger knots take up more of the tie length, I find that I barely have enough material to place it in the tie-stay. PS I find large and elaborate knots. My go-to knot is the double Windsor.
If I want both the blades to be of the same length. What length tie should I buy????
I am 34 but like the old school look of short tie. I wear pants slightly high and tie is 1 to 1 1/2 inches above. I use my first 2 fingers. If the back of the tie is too long you can tuck it in the shirt through where you button the shirt.
At mu church 80% hide their ”thinner part of their tie” under the shirt. They stick it in beteende 2 buttons and it looks really akward😬
nice
Would you mind speaking on tucking one's ties into their trousers?
Only if you are a doctor
Can we wear neck tie without sports jacket or coat ?
I have noticed guys are wearing there ties longer... looks good to me.
Someone should forward this video to our president.
ik that donald is kind of low, but its kinda good for an old guy ngl
Don’t hate on my boy Trump
lol.. its funny because my friend always talk about his outfit. like how he wear black shoes with a blue suit..lol.. as i women i don't understand..lol.. im learning
if your talking about joe Biden
I was taught by housemaster that you needed to stand to attention in order for your tie to be the proper length as described. It was all to do with posture to achieve the perfect length. I still do this to this day 40 years later.
Best knot for short men, I'm talking guys 5'6" and under? I have sooo much trouble getting proper length when I tie a tie no matter what knot I use.
+Brian Corley get shorter ties, that's the only way
I've read that the probable origin of tie is from Croatian mercenaries and it served the sole purpose to be an emergency bandage. So every soldier had a bandage in case of injury - you can imagine medic could not have enough for everyone, right. So the origin might have been actually very practical rather than pure decorative as you stated.
That's kind of how I remember the Scout neckerchief being for, you could use it as a bandage or sling if needed, or really any purpose requiring a cloth and knot.
I like a long tie (slightly below the waist band on some high waisted trousers). I go for a full Windsor and prefer to use the keeper
Do you have any opinion about the slim/ narrow ties?
Yes, don't wear them.
Be classic, not trendy.
Be you
What’s your beef with DJT
I like short ties
Do you prefer pleated pants over flat front ones?
Pleated for large legs
I'm 6'3" tall, it's hard for me to find ties where I live that are long enough to have a knot that looks proportionate, and still retain an acceptable difference between the length of the blades, often, I will use tie pin or bar to keep the short back blade from peeking out and looking unsightly. Not always, but with some of my ties that's my only option. I prefer my front blade within an inch of the top of my trousers, that way it's never too short, but still has a crisp outline unobstructed by my trousers or belt.
cmasailor I'm 6'0" and it's quite hard to get a tie that wouldn't be too long when wearing it with normal waisted trousers, not these modern rags which are meant to be worn on privates or even lower.
It seems to me that clothes manufacturers are consciously making tie lengths shorter and pocket squares smaller in a bid to save on material costs. I have bought around 30 ties over the past 3 years and not one of them is long enough for both ends to meet at belt height, whichever knot I use. Only about ten of my ties are long enough to tie a full Windsor and still get the tail of the tie in the keeper loop.
I am a fan of the jacket he is wearing in the video. Wide lapels are awesome.
What do ya know. The knot I was taught isnt even listed
i seen some fly ties in this video
Thank you dad 😭😭😭
another thing that can affect length is his weight. Personally I got a belly (trying to lose it but I got one and it's likely here to stay for years to come) and I like a good full Windsor knot as it helps balance out how I look when I wear a tie. I've tried picturing myself with a bowtie and I feel (personally) that a larger man (in the waist region not height) wearing a bowtie is basically giving in because when I see pictures of such men it tends to draw more attention to the fact they have a larger midsection/have a gut rather than balance how they look.
He is wearing a half windsor knot right?
Hi, can you do a video on suspenders or braces for trousers? Thanks
Hi, thanks for the suggestion. We will add that in our list.
You need to rethink how you wear a tie.
Here's what the Master Michael Drake had to say...
"The tie is important not only because it’s so much the focus of attention, but because it’s more symbolic than utilitarian. The best ties are hand made, never stitched by machine. You have a suit made in the round, and so the tie should be three-dimensional as well.
Avoid extremes: no wider than nine centimetres and no narrower than seven. Eight will look right on any occasion.
The pattern should not be overly designed, with too many colours, or too shiny; although solid satin in navy, grey or purple is fine for the evening, for a more formal look. The time-honoured tradition of lighter coloured ties in the morning, a little darker in the afternoon and darker still in the evening is hard to beat.
Seventy percent of the ties we produce at Drake’s of London are shades of blue. It’s always a good starting point.
There are only two knots worth considering, the four in hand and the half Windsor, the second also being a good standby if the tie is too long or a slightly fuller knot is required.
Best not to use the loop or ‘keeper’ at the back of the tie, to remain nonchalant. It’s ok to see part of the tail. Avoid a look that’s too stiff and rigid - think the Duke of Windsor or Snr. Gianni Agnelli rather than your local bank manager, whose ties will often look ironed flat.
Wearing a tie that is either too long or too short is another give away. In an ideal world the tie should reach the top of the trouser waistband with both the front and tail finishing at the same length. If this can’t be achieved, better to have the tail slightly longer than the front. Often the rise of the trousers can cause the tie to be the wrong length."
Michael Drake founded Drake’s in 1977. Today it is the largest independent maker of handmade ties in England.
Knit ties are often shorter then silk ties. What then?
The size of your neck, the length of your torso, the thickness of the tie material and the length of the tie... my neck is a 20” collar size - back in college, my collar was 23”... suffice it to say that all of my dress shirts are custom made
what is the tie design called at 1:53
Paisley
My husband is large and tall, and even the so called, "extra long" ties of 72" are not long enough. The small plate end up just a tiny tail below the knot, and the large plate ends up a few inches above his belt. I've got to sew him custom ties, or get bow ties.
caballero Raphael ✌
Srs shirt ?
It's a monogram for his initials, Sven Raphael Schneider.
Thank you😁
Did anybody notice his pocket square left his pocket and transformed into a flower on his lapel?
POTUS needs your lessons. Please lend a helping hand.
The tie looks better reaching the belt.
I have a thought about 0:39 - Although the history of tie places it as pure decoration, could it not be suggested that over time, function was infused into tie design, making it _more_ than just decoration today? I ask this because I believe the modern tie does serve a distinct purpose: A shirt button cover (typically, a tie that covers any more or any less than your shirt buttons is already considered generally taboo) and something to block the elements from getting down your collar. To take it to a logical extreme, if the tie is purely decoration then why are clip-on ties not more acceptable? Thoughts?
I'm a lazy guy and I tend to not leave myself time to really get dressed in the mornings. So, as a time saving measure I slip my tie off over my head and leave it tied so all I have to do it put it on and tighten the knot. Is this bad for tie? Be honest, I can take it.
I just noticed your monogram is SRS, or "Serious".
No, it's Sven Raphael Schneider
@@channingcheese2 Whoooooosh
I'm not a fan of the dimple. What's the point or significance
i am 6.2 and i can say most ties are too fucking short...
Marius Adrian hell yes, same here😠
Language Timothy !
Im to tall for my favorite tie
I think dimple in ties look sloppy, just my opinion
I like his channel, but this is one is so self evident and everything goes type of video it wasn’t worth the time making it. In Britain the standard, and correct method, is to the trouser waist level only and the back blade is tucked in the front blade hook, or keeper, and should never be seen. Today’s modern way’s are not traditional but if you’re young enough perhaps it’s for you, although frowned on at a gentleman’s club in London and my regiment club. I didn’t see the point of this video.
I don't want to disappoint or scare you, but there are countries besides Great Britain and places besides your clubs. But even in your clubs, I suppose men don't come in the same height, as well as their trousers. So it's useful to know that depending on yours and your trouser's height you can use different tie's length and different knots to achieve waist level.
The best length is inch or two above the waist line.
Half Windsor, no dimple,long front, center of buckle, keeper and a tie bar.
I like Suit, Blazer but don't like the Tie
At 4:10 he's wearing his watch OVER his sleeve/cuff. That guy is clueless.
He is likely pulling a sprezzatura, as he covered the topic and discussed an Italian fashion model that does the same thing.
guten abend raffael, guck mal in der heutigen tagesschau von 20:00 (april 10ter) bei 1min 10sek trägt der finanzminister seine krawatte so, dass sie unten raus guckt und auf die genitalzone zeigt. hehe. mit freundlichen grüßen
With all due respect I want a tie not a noose.
Dedicate it to Mr Trump!
Politics aside, knowing of Trump over the decades, he probably doee wear his ties purposefully long to point to his crotch. LOL.
Shotgunmad xl The combo of long tie and high trousers could be it too. Thing is, since he's taping up his ties like @3:55 that suggests it's barely long enough in the first place. Or maybe he's tying the front of the tie long for some other reason. I'm a little taller than him, so having the back tail of the tie too short is something that happens with regular length ties.
Now why he doesn't wear tie bars is another question. His company sells them. I'm sure he's seen them all over the place in his life. I'm genuinely curious.
Christopher A. Tie pin (tie bar) is a personal choice, nothing to do with necessity.
Shotgunmad xl his ties are to long though, why would he not buy a shorter tie?
Cheeky Trump Dig.
Just wear a bow tie
Trump got bad fashion sense.
Most people do.
No fashion sense. You'd think someone would have suggested having a tailor, maybe someone from Brioni where he buys his $6000 off-the-rack suits.
This video defames Donald Trump.
Get a dictionary. In no way does showing a photo of possibly the worst dressed man in the public eye damage his reputation. Trumpo has absolutely no fashion sense. He wears $6000 off-the-rack Brioni suits a couple of sizes too big with elephantine pant legs, many times not even pressed. His ties are ridiculously long. With your definition of "defame" using pretty much any photo of him qualifies.
Trump just want to save his country and his ppl. (true americans)
I'm so sorry the public school system failed you.
I like proper tie length, but a President that protects America and honors the Constitution is more important to me. Glad Barry is gone.
Honors the Constitution by promising to do unconstitutional things like ban Muslims... Right..
Harrison Richter God was voted out of the constitution . the 2nd best document
P3R4 O57R3W1C4 God was voted out of the Constitution when it was written. the only time religion is mentioned is when the founders state not to put it into government
We are about men's style, not politics. Have a look here www.gentlemansgazette.com/inauguration-suits-presidents-usa/?
Kent Keller look at this snowflake who can't handle the fact Trump has a poor taste in style and thinks the GZ highlighting this shortcoming is some kind of political attack that he needs to defend against
The picture of my President seemed very intentional. Please be more respectful. Still a fan; for now.
no one cares if you're offended. Keep it too yourself.
no one care about you getting offended when your beloved president is pointed out for dressing terribly, it's just fact not politics
Norseman you should learn to spell properly is that asking “too” much for one “to” not look stupid?
We have been lead to believe that the reason why in the 1920-30's tie's where shorter is because of the depression....but it mostly because they wore their trouser's around their necks and if they wore a longer length tie they would catch their tie's in their Knicker's or fly of the trouser's