I am so happy to know the name of this knot, a few years ago I mis-tied the 1/2 Windsor and liked it so much I have been using it regularly ever since. Now I know what to call it
I really only use 3 knots with any regularity. The Bertie for asymmetrical & the Pratt for a more symmetrical knot and the 4 in hand. An occasional half Windsor but really the 3 I mentioned above. In that order, too.
I have seen quite a few of your videos. I am a basic working man, but I have some shirts and ties. I thank you for your educational videos and I am still learning.
Thank you for this. Not only did the knot work out as the perfect size for my tab collar shirt, for the first time I had a perfect dimple. I have tried lots of other methods to get a simple, but it was always hit or miss.
It looks like I've been tying an Old Bertie for more than 35 years and didn't even know it had a name--it was just something a college friend showed me when I expressed discontent at the severe asymmetry of the four-in-hand my father had taught me. But I think I more often swing it to the left rather than to the right after the initial pass, feeling it makes a more symmetrical knot while still keeping the knot small. I also like your technique for creating a dimple. I'd have to study in front of a mirror exactly what I do to create a good dimple that lasts (again, after more than 35 years, my hands are just on automatic pilot and I don't really think about any of it much), but there is an elegant simplicity to your technique than any classically-dressed man can appreciate.
oldwest517 Thank you! The dimple trick really works. Secret is to pull the back blade down while pulling the front blade. You have to put some pressure on it.
After making the first knot, you should turn the wide end to the left around the back going to the right. You did it in the opposite direction which makes it mixture or half Windsor and old Bertie. The problem is when you want to untie it it will be knotted and you need to unknot it and that damaged the fabric of the tie. The other problem with it is you need to switch hands when you rotate the wide end while you can avoid this by doing what I mentioned above. Check out Sartorial Talks and his technique to do the old Bertie knot which is exactly what I described. I’m always a big fan and I always shop from your online store and you deeply influenced by everything I watch on your channel. Best of luck Kirby.
I'm watching Satorial Talks as I read your comment, will try it next time cause Old Bertie knot is awesome and I have been using Kirby's way and it is true that when I untie it I have a knot still to manual untie
Great video. I have a number of crucial interviews coming up for school and I’ll certainly be using this knot for my ties. When pulling on the wider end to make the dimple, is the other hand just holding onto the thinner end, or is it also pulling down? I watched the video a few times (only the first half, though) and couldn’t find a solid explanation. Thanks!
Kirby, it turns out that I have been using this knot since culinary school in 2003 and never knew what it was called. Thanks for all of your guidance with menswear; you have helped me a great deal!
Hi Kirby, as usual great video making complex steps simple. Been a subscriber for a while and I am totally admiring your new style of videos covering even a wider audience in the Gentlemen style zones! Question, what are your thoughts of styling a Prince Albert knot with double breasted peak lapel suits?
Try Nicky knot instead of classic Windsor knot. If you need a narrow knot, try Oriental, Kent (very similar like Oriental) or Four-in-Hand knots. If you need little bit wider knot, use Pratt knot. They all have no more then five steps.
This is one of the Half-Windsor versions - the third version of the Half-Windsor by Fink and Mao, tie knot # 9. Patric Novatny is calling this version Zanon tie knot.
One other comment. It is so nice to see someone do the common-sense thing of not buttoning the top button until after the collar is flipped down--a rarity among TH-cam instructional videos. I personally place the tie around my neck, then flip the collar down right away while everything is nice and loose, then tie the knot, and then button the top button and snug up the knot. Flipping the collar down only after the top button is buttoned is very uncomfortable (I think it is this discomfot--as well as stiff, cheap ties--that makes many men think that ties are uncomfortable, when they aren't. It also requires manhandling, abusing, and even wrinkling a nicely ironed collar. Flipping the collar down prior to buttoning is much gentler on the collar.
@@herbertloscher514 Nonsense. I wear one every day, and it is very comfortable. A nice soft cotton shirt with a high-quality silk or wool tie are very comfortable. What I've never understood is how people think that T-shirts are comfortable.
@@kirbyallison It means that you do not understand the logic of tie knots. The tie knot depends at least on the type of collar, the length of the tie and its density. With a long tie on a person with a short torso and a thin neck, it will be too long when you will be tying simpler knots up to 5-6 steps.
Hey Kirby, I know this video has been up for a while, but what suit make and model were you wearing in this video? It looks really good, and I would like to look into purchasing one for myself. Thanks👍
are you saying both tie blades should of equal length and at the belt buckle? thats sounds nearly impossible unless you have a tie with custom length? I dont see why it would be important for the skinny end to be the same length when it is hidden away...
i noticed you were wearing your old bertie knot again in your latest shoe unboxing video, and i know you've mentioned it in other videos before so i decided to dig up an old video to find out how to tie it. it's certainly a different and very refreshing knot compared to the other tie knots i regularly tie. about 6:43, it wasn't entirely clear to me if you were pulling on both blades, but i'm guessing you are just pulling on the long blade while merely holding on to the short blade.
I do not "pop" my collar anymore. If starched, it's very difficult to turn down. Just as easy to slide the tie underneath the flat collar. BTW, that looks like a half Windsor.
LOVE THE TIE KNOT, BUT I AM 193 CM , WHAT TIE SHOULD I USE TO HAVE THAT THICNESS FROM DHE TOP TO THE BOTTOM, WHATS THE LENGTH OF YOUR TIE ? AND THE WIDTH SO I CAN COMPARE TO MINE THANK YOU
You can use high waist pants and the tie with a lenght of 160cm. And you can try to tie all the knots what have not more then 6 steps. But really with a length of 160cm there has to be no problems with a Windsor type knots too.
This is one of the Half-Windsor versions - the third version of the Half-Windsor by Fink and Mao, tie knot # 9. Patrick Novotny is calling this version Zanon tie knot.
Hello, Kirby! I know this video is kind of old, but I'm in the begining of the gentleman world and I have a doubt about this video. How long the tie should be for me that it will be as you showed in the video? I'm a 1,76 cm guy. Thanks for your attention!
This is one of the Half-Windsor versions - the third version of the Half-Windsor by Fink and Mao, tie knot # 9. Patrick Novotny is calling this version Zanon tie knot.
@@t3h8ar0n you understood me wrong. I only noted that Fink and Mao ranked this knot in the group of Half Windsor knots by the structure and quantity of the steps. Thats all. Old Bertie looks different then Half Windsor and it has its own place among all others knots. With some collars it looks nice enough.
No, it isn't a "half Windsor"... and it is rather obvious it isn't because the Old Bertie crosses and then immediately goes up through the back of the V (back to front motion), while the half Windsor immediately crosses and wraps around before going DOWN through the V (front to back).
1) best knot I've ever seen. 2) it would have been helpful if you SLOWED down the tying of the tie (you tied at the speed of someone who already knows the knot. 3) reduce your dialog by 2/3. Blah, blah, blah. You could demonstrate without speaking at all if you went SLOWLY in the demonstration.
You have some good points but also some points I consider blatant errors of taste. Traditionally a tie shouldn’t hang longer than the 4th waistcoat button (that is 4th down from the top button) or where that would be in a traditional 6 button waistcoat of a three piece suit. This way, if a waistcoat or pullover is worn there is no chance the end of the tie would ever protrude (even if seated). Ties were made shorter in times when three piece suits were standard for this reason (until the 1950s). The same guiding principle exists with two piece suits being more common. And so for similar reasons, under no circumstances should a tie ever go lower than a belt line - whatever rise the trousers have. A higher waistline requires a shorter tie length. To allow a tie to hang lower is a total faux pas and the height of indiscretion if not bordering at times on the obscene. It is similar in levels of tastelessness as it would be to allow the shirt to be seen at the waist between a waistcoat and the trousers. Even though it may be ideal for the shirt opening to be concealed by the tie, it is far better a tie hang slightly too shortly than it’s length be longer than the belt line. And further it is incredibly bad form to ever show the back blade of a tie. It is better (although again not ideal) for the back blade to be tucked discreetly into the shirt if there is any risk of it being exposed. Some ties simply refuse to behave no matter how carefully tied. Also, although the knot should form a dimple, again it is bad taste for it to be too symmetrically placed - something akin to having a tie and pocket handkerchief of an identical material. It just looks too contrived.
This video focus on selling ties rather than showing on how to do the knot like the title says...he didn't mention how to measure the tie before you start so you get to the proper length every time
I disagree--I've always worn a dimple, because aesthetically, I think it gives some depth and texture to the knot, and draws the eyes upwards to the face. Just an opinion--clearly not everyone agrees on this point. I also think that a dimple forces you to keep the tie blade strictly parallel to the chest, whereas an undimpled knot has a tendency to twist slightly to one side or the other.
I've just been giving this knot a try and I am surprised with the positive results. Even with some more textured ties the knot doesn't become bulky. I will definitely incorporate this knot in my warderobe. Thank you for this great tutorial.
I loved the knot but there is no way that a person over 5'10" can have the ends of the tie be the same length. You have to be like 5'7" or less to have it like that. I'm 6'3" and If I try to pull that the tie end up in the middle of my shirt.
This is one of the Half-Windsor versions - the third version of the Half-Windsor by Fink and Mao, tie knot # 9. Patrick Novotny is calling this version Zanon tie knot.
Love that accent when you talk. You are obviously not Cockney (from London)! Tying a neck tie is like conducting a symphony orchestra - everyone has their own nuances in how they do it.
I have started using this style over past few months. Didn't know the name of it. I would describe it as a cross between a half Windsor and a four in the hand. Looks great.
I’ve watched a hundred of these “ how to tie a tie” videos and what is never mentioned is that you must use an extra long tie. Most men’s ties are 58”, (147.32cm), and the small blade will only come to the middle of your chest or top of your stomach after the tie is tied. If you use an “extra long”tie, 62” or 63”, (157.48cm), the blades will be even after tying the knot. This is especially important if you are a tall man.
@@kirbyallison ...No. It has to due with how long the tie is. I’m 5’10”, and the only knots I use are the four n hand and the half Windsor. I’m not creating large knots that take up a lot of the ties length. All of my 58”, standard length, ties have a small blade that is much shorter than the large blade after tying those knots. With my extra long ties (62”), the blades are even. It has nothing to due with the rise of the pants. Sheesh.
@@sitbone3 you’re wrong though. High rise trousers require a shorter tie and play a huge role. I’m 6’1, and with my high waisted trousers, average tie length works fine (slightly longer than average for me is ideal with high waisted; around 59-60”, but 58” is close. 62”+ is definitely too long). Knot choice also does matter.
I am so happy to know the name of this knot, a few years ago I mis-tied the 1/2 Windsor and liked it so much I have been using it regularly ever since. Now I know what to call it
See my comment above lol
Thanks for watching! Let me know, what is your favorite tie knot?
Four in hand and double four in hand, simple and classy
I really only use 3 knots with any regularity. The Bertie for asymmetrical & the Pratt for a more symmetrical knot and the 4 in hand. An occasional half Windsor but really the 3 I mentioned above. In that order, too.
For thicker ties I like the four in hand but for thinner ties I like the Kelvin and half Windsor.
Half windsor knot
Four in hand
I have seen quite a few of your videos. I am a basic working man, but I have some shirts and ties. I thank you for your educational videos and I am still learning.
Thank you for this. Not only did the knot work out as the perfect size for my tab collar shirt, for the first time I had a perfect dimple. I have tried lots of other methods to get a simple, but it was always hit or miss.
It looks like I've been tying an Old Bertie for more than 35 years and didn't even know it had a name--it was just something a college friend showed me when I expressed discontent at the severe asymmetry of the four-in-hand my father had taught me. But I think I more often swing it to the left rather than to the right after the initial pass, feeling it makes a more symmetrical knot while still keeping the knot small. I also like your technique for creating a dimple. I'd have to study in front of a mirror exactly what I do to create a good dimple that lasts (again, after more than 35 years, my hands are just on automatic pilot and I don't really think about any of it much), but there is an elegant simplicity to your technique than any classically-dressed man can appreciate.
oldwest517 Thank you! The dimple trick really works. Secret is to pull the back blade down while pulling the front blade. You have to put some pressure on it.
After making the first knot, you should turn the wide end to the left around the back going to the right. You did it in the opposite direction which makes it mixture or half Windsor and old Bertie. The problem is when you want to untie it it will be knotted and you need to unknot it and that damaged the fabric of the tie. The other problem with it is you need to switch hands when you rotate the wide end while you can avoid this by doing what I mentioned above. Check out Sartorial Talks and his technique to do the old Bertie knot which is exactly what I described. I’m always a big fan and I always shop from your online store and you deeply influenced by everything I watch on your channel. Best of luck Kirby.
I'm watching Satorial Talks as I read your comment, will try it next time cause Old Bertie knot is awesome and I have been using Kirby's way and it is true that when I untie it I have a knot still to manual untie
I have been searching for this knot for a long time. Thanks for posting the video.
I've been using this knot for years, looks great and always stands out in a crowd of badly tied ties 🙄😂
Incredibly well done. Thank you.
I am totally blind and I wear ties often, thank you for all the great info.
Your best video yet
The moment we have all been waiting for
A tie dimple is absolutely essential for a gentleman.
A Landry Couldn’t agree more! One of those small, subtle details that really make the difference.
You know that the person know his tie really well when there's a dimple on their tieknot
Damn right!
Great video Kirby. Very informative! 👍🏾
Thanks!
Beautiful. Thanks
Great knot..! Thank you..
An absolute killer! Great stuff! haha
Excellent knote!👏👌
perfect explanation great content
Nice video!!
Great Video!!!!!!!!!
Great video. I have a number of crucial interviews coming up for school and I’ll certainly be using this knot for my ties. When pulling on the wider end to make the dimple, is the other hand just holding onto the thinner end, or is it also pulling down? I watched the video a few times (only the first half, though) and couldn’t find a solid explanation. Thanks!
Good luck. It helped me stand out. It turned out I was the only one wearing a tie during the interview.
Bless you. I’ve been waiting for you to make this video.
Zachary Graham Thank you!!
Kirby, it turns out that I have been using this knot since culinary school in 2003 and never knew what it was called. Thanks for all of your guidance with menswear; you have helped me a great deal!
Hi Kirby, as usual great video making complex steps simple. Been a subscriber for a while and I am totally admiring your new style of videos covering even a wider audience in the Gentlemen style zones! Question, what are your thoughts of styling a Prince Albert knot with double breasted peak lapel suits?
What do you recommend for a long torso, most Knots use too much tie
Buy a longer tie!!
Try Nicky knot instead of classic Windsor knot. If you need a narrow knot, try Oriental, Kent (very similar like Oriental) or Four-in-Hand knots. If you need little bit wider knot, use Pratt knot. They all have no more then five steps.
Nice video, I am just wondering about how much longer the long blade should be than the short blade when starting to tie the tie?
I was in high-end menswear design for nearly 20 years and have never heard the half-Windsor knot called an Old Bertie. Any references on this name?
It is called a half windsor. I've never met anyone call this knot a "half Bertie". So would a full windsor knot be called a "full Bertie"?
Please do a information video on Seven Fold Ties.
Isn’t this just a half windsor?
This is one of the Half-Windsor versions - the third version of the Half-Windsor by Fink and Mao, tie knot # 9. Patric Novatny is calling this version Zanon tie knot.
One other comment. It is so nice to see someone do the common-sense thing of not buttoning the top button until after the collar is flipped down--a rarity among TH-cam instructional videos. I personally place the tie around my neck, then flip the collar down right away while everything is nice and loose, then tie the knot, and then button the top button and snug up the knot. Flipping the collar down only after the top button is buttoned is very uncomfortable (I think it is this discomfot--as well as stiff, cheap ties--that makes many men think that ties are uncomfortable, when they aren't. It also requires manhandling, abusing, and even wrinkling a nicely ironed collar. Flipping the collar down prior to buttoning is much gentler on the collar.
To wear a tie is uncomfortable.
@@herbertloscher514 Nonsense. I wear one every day, and it is very comfortable. A nice soft cotton shirt with a high-quality silk or wool tie are very comfortable. What I've never understood is how people think that T-shirts are comfortable.
@@oldwest517 I've tried many different shirt collars. But i've never found one that is comfortable.
@@oldwest517 It's clear: When you like closed shirtcollars and ties, you don't like T-Shirts.
How many tie knots do you think a man should know? (I absolutely love your video, I send you my regards)
I think a man only needs one good knot...
@@kirbyallison It means that you do not understand the logic of tie knots. The tie knot depends at least on the type of collar, the length of the tie and its density. With a long tie on a person with a short torso and a thin neck, it will be too long when you will be tying simpler knots up to 5-6 steps.
Hey Kirby, I know this video has been up for a while, but what suit make and model were you wearing in this video?
It looks really good, and I would like to look into purchasing one for myself.
Thanks👍
Have you done any material on dress wrist watches or pocket watches?
are you saying both tie blades should of equal length and at the belt buckle? thats sounds nearly impossible unless you have a tie with custom length? I dont see why it would be important for the skinny end to be the same length when it is hidden away...
always thought that knot was a "half windsor"? Have always used this knot.
Nice suit. Please give details. Can’t tell the colour of your suit on screen dark grey/dark blue? Is this bespoke? Tailor please
Only fitting Kirby has gold collar stays 😄...Keep us jealous buddy.
Every time he pops his collar, it cracks me up 💀
"Ever since I can remember, I've been Poppin my collar, Poppin my collar, Poppin my collar!😂
i noticed you were wearing your old bertie knot again in your latest shoe unboxing video, and i know you've mentioned it in other videos before so i decided to dig up an old video to find out how to tie it. it's certainly a different and very refreshing knot compared to the other tie knots i regularly tie.
about 6:43, it wasn't entirely clear to me if you were pulling on both blades, but i'm guessing you are just pulling on the long blade while merely holding on to the short blade.
I do not "pop" my collar anymore. If starched, it's very difficult to turn down. Just as easy to slide the tie underneath the flat collar. BTW, that looks like a half Windsor.
My favorite tie is The Eldredge knot, The Bloom knot and The Trinity knot
LOVE THE TIE KNOT, BUT I AM 193 CM , WHAT TIE SHOULD I USE TO HAVE THAT THICNESS FROM DHE TOP TO THE BOTTOM, WHATS THE LENGTH OF YOUR TIE ? AND THE WIDTH SO I CAN COMPARE TO MINE THANK YOU
You can use high waist pants and the tie with a lenght of 160cm. And you can try to tie all the knots what have not more then 6 steps. But really with a length of 160cm there has to be no problems with a Windsor type knots too.
Next Kirby show us how to tie a shoe
So cutee
How long are your ties?
We have 150 and 160 cm lengths
Similar to oriental knot but harder than that, so why should i pick this knot?
Sooooo......Half-Windsor?
This is one of the Half-Windsor versions - the third version of the Half-Windsor by Fink and Mao, tie knot # 9. Patrick Novotny is calling this version Zanon tie knot.
0:51 It’s not a problem, it’s a ME problem!
Is this also known as the Prince Albert and double four in the hand? Too many knots- somewhat confused.
Please advise
@@adriansaw8329 I wouldn't know about the double four in hand, but it's not the Prince Albert.
www.ties.com/how-to-tie-a-tie/prince-albert
Hello, Kirby! I know this video is kind of old, but I'm in the begining of the gentleman world and I have a doubt about this video. How long the tie should be for me that it will be as you showed in the video? I'm a 1,76 cm guy. Thanks for your attention!
Is this not the same thing as a half winsor knot? o:
Take a drink every time he says tie.
"The Old Bertie" ? That was a HALF WINDSOR !
This is one of the Half-Windsor versions - the third version of the Half-Windsor by Fink and Mao, tie knot # 9. Patrick Novotny is calling this version Zanon tie knot.
@@t3h8ar0n you understood me wrong. I only noted that Fink and Mao ranked this knot in the group of Half Windsor knots by the structure and quantity of the steps. Thats all. Old Bertie looks different then Half Windsor and it has its own place among all others knots. With some collars it looks nice enough.
Wish this was mirrored 😭
This is a half Windsor also known as a Prince Albert knot. Don’t know where the term Old Bertie came from.
No, it isn't a "half Windsor"... and it is rather obvious it isn't because the Old Bertie crosses and then immediately goes up through the back of the V (back to front motion), while the half Windsor immediately crosses and wraps around before going DOWN through the V (front to back).
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Weird, I've been using this knot for years and thinking it was a half-Windsor.
1) best knot I've ever seen.
2) it would have been helpful if you SLOWED down the tying of the tie (you tied at the speed of someone who already knows the knot.
3) reduce your dialog by 2/3. Blah, blah, blah. You could demonstrate without speaking at all if you went SLOWLY in the demonstration.
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You have some good points but also some points I consider blatant errors of taste. Traditionally a tie shouldn’t hang longer than the 4th waistcoat button (that is 4th down from the top button) or where that would be in a traditional 6 button waistcoat of a three piece suit. This way, if a waistcoat or pullover is worn there is no chance the end of the tie would ever protrude (even if seated). Ties were made shorter in times when three piece suits were standard for this reason (until the 1950s). The same guiding principle exists with two piece suits being more common. And so for similar reasons, under no circumstances should a tie ever go lower than a belt line - whatever rise the trousers have. A higher waistline requires a shorter tie length. To allow a tie to hang lower is a total faux pas and the height of indiscretion if not bordering at times on the obscene. It is similar in levels of tastelessness as it would be to allow the shirt to be seen at the waist between a waistcoat and the trousers. Even though it may be ideal for the shirt opening to be concealed by the tie, it is far better a tie hang slightly too shortly than it’s length be longer than the belt line.
And further it is incredibly bad form to ever show the back blade of a tie. It is better (although again not ideal) for the back blade to be tucked discreetly into the shirt if there is any risk of it being exposed. Some ties simply refuse to behave no matter how carefully tied.
Also, although the knot should form a dimple, again it is bad taste for it to be too symmetrically placed - something akin to having a tie and pocket handkerchief of an identical material. It just looks too contrived.
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Great video...try not to say "omina"...rather, "I am going to". Other than that, great video.
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I call that a half Windsor. 🤷♂️
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Why could such an uncomfortable thing like the tie spread worldwide?
You are left hander so you're more confusing than explaining. 😁 Just kidding. Nice video. 👍
This video focus on selling ties rather than showing on how to do the knot like the title says...he didn't mention how to measure the tie before you start so you get to the proper length every time
Yes, he did!!
No dimple in the middle of the tie.....please.Nice shirt though.
I disagree--I've always worn a dimple, because aesthetically, I think it gives some depth and texture to the knot, and draws the eyes upwards to the face. Just an opinion--clearly not everyone agrees on this point. I also think that a dimple forces you to keep the tie blade strictly parallel to the chest, whereas an undimpled knot has a tendency to twist slightly to one side or the other.
oldwest517 Thanks for your reply Kirby.
I've just been giving this knot a try and I am surprised with the positive results. Even with some more textured ties the knot doesn't become bulky. I will definitely incorporate this knot in my warderobe. Thank you for this great tutorial.
It's one of my favorites! Easy to tie and I love the shape !
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I loved the knot but there is no way that a person over 5'10" can have the ends of the tie be the same length. You have to be like 5'7" or less to have it like that. I'm 6'3" and If I try to pull that the tie end up in the middle of my shirt.
I'm 6'1" and have the same issue. Sometimes the small end won't reach the keeper.
Isn't this knot called the half windsor?
This is one of the Half-Windsor versions - the third version of the Half-Windsor by Fink and Mao, tie knot # 9. Patrick Novotny is calling this version Zanon tie knot.
Love that accent when you talk. You are obviously not Cockney (from London)!
Tying a neck tie is like conducting a symphony orchestra - everyone has their own nuances in how they do it.
This is how I learned to tie a tie. I (and other here) erroneously thought it was a half Windsor; thanks for teaching us the right name!
I have started using this style over past few months. Didn't know the name of it. I would describe it as a cross between a half Windsor and a four in the hand. Looks great.
Thanks for this! The old Bertie knot you show here looks the same as what we called the half Windsor knot.
I was about to mention that until I read your comment.
Wtf is sovereign grade? U say this all the time but don’t explain it
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I’ve watched a hundred of these “ how to tie a tie” videos and what is never mentioned is that you must use an extra long tie. Most men’s ties are 58”, (147.32cm), and the small blade will only come to the middle of your chest or top of your stomach after the tie is tied. If you use an “extra long”tie, 62” or 63”, (157.48cm), the blades will be even after tying the knot. This is especially important if you are a tall man.
Well, this really depends more on the type of knot and how high waisted your trousers are.
@@kirbyallison ...No. It has to due with how long the tie is. I’m 5’10”, and the only knots I use are the four n hand and the half Windsor. I’m not creating large knots that take up a lot of the ties length. All of my 58”, standard length, ties have a small blade that is much shorter than the large blade after tying those knots. With my extra long ties (62”), the blades are even. It has nothing to due with the rise of the pants. Sheesh.
@@sitbone3 you’re wrong though. High rise trousers require a shorter tie and play a huge role. I’m 6’1, and with my high waisted trousers, average tie length works fine (slightly longer than average for me is ideal with high waisted; around 59-60”, but 58” is close. 62”+ is definitely too long). Knot choice also does matter.