You best believe they're hitting those notes in the lives as well!! That's why Happy Face was like, "Really? Y'all let this flop? Nah, let's try that again."
SuA was the original off-rapper during MINX era and even the early Dreamcatcher songs, but she never felt super confident with it. They actually just discussed this on vLive over the weekend - that when they were recording "Piri" they each recorded the entire song individually and LEEZ/Ollounder decided that Gahyeon did the best accenting Dami's main rap flow. Since then Gahyeon has rapped on "Breaking Out" and "Scream" and although she doesn't consider herself a permanent "sub-rapper" it seems that is a role she is good at. Meanwhile SuA is actually quite a good freestyle rapper - she's shown her skills during some variety shows - but she just doesn't want to focus on it; she is much more into choreography development. MINX is a very mixed subject for the Dreamcatcher girls. Obviously the flop and disbandment was harsh, and JiU and Siyeon took it particularly hard. As leader JiU felt like she had personally failed - the company, the members and herself - and to this day she is very emotional at fan events. Siyeon was very uncomfortable with the concept - obviously it's really not any more explicit than some other girl groups but she felt very sexualized (she was 19 when this was filmed) from some of the camera angles, and while she WILL still wear crop tops and shorts on occasion, she actively dislikes doing so. Dami was only 17 when they debuted as MINX, and although I can't remember her ever talking about the experience, she seems MUCH more comfortable with her current concept and role. Happyface learned a lot from the flop and how the members felt, and have given the members of Dreamcatcher a great deal more control over their wardrobes and presentation. SuA & Yoohyeon occasionally sing MINX songs on vLive, but overall it feels like the members would prefer that their past incarnation just be forgotten.
Pretty sure all the members could pull off all the roles at this point, they're so ridiculously versatile. Just listen to Dami in Jazz Bar, how many main rappers sing that well and that differently from how they rap?
one funny occasion to add: during Sua's birthday vlive, she was at a karaoke bar with Jiu and Siyeon and they were searching for "Love shake" to sing but the song list didn't have it😂😂
They actually had the same positions in Minx as they do in Dreamcatcher! The only position change was Dami no longer being the Maknae because of Gahyeon being added.
@@NerdChannelBrasil True, it just means that she wasn't the youngest anymore. Something that Dami appreciated because she disliked being asked to do aegyo all them time, something that nearly every maknae is asked to do
Yeah they are the same now. Which i think should change because Sua has been a lead rapper since 2014 and hasn’t really rapped since 2017 we all know she can sing her head of and is even more comfortable singing than rapping so i feel after 6 years 😂 she deserves to become a lead vocalist 😌
@@NerdChannelBrasil While its *technically* not a position - maknaes usually get assigned to be the "cute" one that literally get asked to do aegyo 9 out of 10 times
You could say it was good timing, because without the loss of Minx, we wouldn't have Dreamcatcher. I don't necessarily believe in this, but you could say "everything happens for a reason" :)
MINX cute and sexy-ish concept was heavily influenced by their older sister group Dal☆Shabet! Dal☆Shabet was known for switching between the cute to sexy to cute/sexy concepts every comeback, and it became a staple of the group's appeal. MINX was supposed to up hold that legacy, but after a majority of the members came forward to their company saying they didnt feel like they could show all they had to show with the current concept the company did a complete 180 with the group. Thus, leading to Dream Catcher!
I've seen a lot of DreamCatcher fans talk down about this song and these times as if it was a bad thing but honestly, I don't think this was a bad song or debut. It just came at a bad time, a lot of things happened in the Kpop world in late 2014 good and bad that overshadowed this. Plus 2014 was when we really started to see a rise in the brighter "cute" groups. Its always safe to follow the trend and debut a group with a concept that's currently popular (which is why we see a lot of Girl Crush lately), but the drawback is, you risk not standing out. They could've stuck it out and continued with Minx in hopes of something hitting it big down the road, but that means pouring in more money in to the group with ok success. But instead. HappyFace Entertainment chose to scrap the group and restructure them from scratch and they became DreamCatcher. In a way, that's a bigger gamble since now you're not going with what's proven to work for the market ("Cute/Innocent" concept) and instead doing something that's never really done before so you don't know how people will receive it. Even now, I feel like Korea is still iffy on DreamCatcher, but thankfully in they grabbed international audience's attention and this worked in the company's favor in the end. Plus I'm pretty sure majority of Dreamcatcher weren't really fond of the concept to begin with and I'm sure Dami is glad to not be the maknae.
I think I get why many fans talk bad about it, not just because of the opposite difference between Dreamcatcher and MINX. MINX's concept is cute for sure, but I think Happyface Ent at that time failed to make it more refreshing. Now what I mean is that they put some "sexy" elements to the overall cute concept, but the product after all looked quite a mess. It made me feel cringey at some points for real. And to be honest, the members look awkward expressed their concept through the song too.
This song indeed is STUPID GOOD! I can't believe they gained almost no attention with this! I love the actual Dreamcatcher but this song and this concept is everything as well!
Minx would've been REALLY popular if they had just debutes at a different time. Plus, Their 1st comeback was almost a year later and since they aren't a "Big 3", the almost year long wait backfired on them.
To be fair I'm kinda happy they rebranded - since the girls themselves said they didn't enjoy the concept and I would hate for them to have been stuck doing something they did not enjoy for years on end
3:49 It’s funny cuz Minx is like a dark past for Dc. Every time an mc brings up minx or ‘cute concepts’ Dc’s faces r like 🤨😟🤮 and it’s a insomnia inside joke to go *minx war flashbacks* !!! Even Handong and Gahyeon tease their members about their past. There’s this one clip where sua is teasing dami and dongie for their short hair and handong does a little part of sua’s choreo in love shake teasing her bob and Sua looks like she’s about to DIE. Lol our girls r such memes!!
i couldn’t find the full vid but i saw it in this video th-cam.com/video/--WktuP4nNc/w-d-xo.html at 10.23 is where the clip starts lol dong not afraid of death
Why Did You Come To My Home is my favourite from Minx. The chorus is so addicting. I remember singing it all the time after my first listen when I didn't know if I liked it or not. It made me realise I liked it.
Siyeon whistle tones? Cool. My heart goes out to JiU who must have taken failure hard, but really, I have to be glad they failed. The world doesn't need another cute/sexy concept Kpop girl group. It NEEDS Dreamcatcher!! I had enjoyed watching Minx a few times but when I saw Chase Me (actually the dance MV first), I was blown away, and have been again and again since. Now JiU is my bias and I listen to Dreamcatcher every day.
ABSOLUTE BANGER OF A DEBUT Too bad it was poorly timed, Minx was dope. Either way though, the girls don't like the cute concept and are happy now in DC with Gah and Dongie, so I can't complain (even if I desperately want to see Minx Gahyeon)
Can you imagine if they did a dark Minx concept though? Like Fly High cranked up to 11 where they’re freakin’ cute but also will happily and horrifically end you. I think I just want to see Dami back in pigtails wielding a giant axe or something. 👻
Yeah they really enjoy their concept now. Some of them is big fan of rock music. Like siyeon is ok rock (i forgor the group name) fans, yoohyeon is day6 big fan, and almost all of them like baby metal. Also siyeon is former band singer in her highschool😭😭😭
Remarkable how well-executed the vocals and choreo are and how catchy the song itself is, even when the concept wasn't noteworthy enough to get them any attention. Still super glad that Happyface realized that the problem was the concept and timing and not the girls, so they redebuted them with DC's waaay better style instead of giving up entirely. Huge props to the studio for having that kind of foresight.
I really one day have to up my patronage and request a DC/Minx only stream. I would like you to react to some of their radio appearances and live stages (I know you already did some DC content)
It's so lit 🔥 right! They're so good since minx but sadly their debut got overshadowed(?) By other groups who also debuted at the same time. Actually i like them being minx, cuz members can be themselves even on stage(I mean they're also bubbly off stage too) but I'm much more happy when they became DC.. with gahyeonie and dongie❤😍 It seems perfect since they really enjoyed it now 😊. But I know it's hard for Jiu as a leader at that time tho..she still emotional😔 and for siyeon she's really not comfortable on minx concept.. as you can see siyeon in Dreamcatcher she really love to wear pants 😐 I think even dami too is not comfortable. So thankfully Dreamcatcher exist now❤❤😍
I am still appalled by the fact people didn't give them attention after THAT debut. But oh well, we later got Dreamcatcher so maybe it was for the better?
Agreed. This song is exactly what appealed to people at the time, but there were too many girl groups with similar concepts debuting or dropping music just then. It must have been so hard to get so little acknowledgment when they were SO GOOD, but I’m glad they’ve moved on to something more unique.
Thanks to happyface entertainment that didnt abandon them and didnt let them flop. Im super glad that they didnt gave up and try to debut one more time😭 (dont get me wrong they are super good in minx era but yeah people sleep on them)
They're all smiling so clearly not Dreamcatcher. Dreamcatcher don't smile. If you want to know why Minx failed watch this th-cam.com/video/YIgCAp3i1os/w-d-xo.html I like the song and the way the girls presented themselves is much closer to the way they are in their VLives and Vlogs.
Ok. So you said you gonna react to another Minx. i give some info, next title is Love Shake and that title (I'm not offense it cause Minx and DalShabet is a same company. Happyface Entertaiment) is supose singing by DalShabet but some reason HFE give to Minx singing Love Shake. Also please React to DalShabet (if already react, please look another song or see colab to Minx).
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As good as this is, I still think they don't suit this concept. Just knowing that they were "cutesy" before what they are now makes me cringe. XD Even the girls themselves want to forget this.
The DC girls really do not miss. Even before they were DC
Facts their debut was great, Love schake is alright but my favourite.
You best believe they're hitting those notes in the lives as well!! That's why Happy Face was like, "Really? Y'all let this flop? Nah, let's try that again."
SuA was the original off-rapper during MINX era and even the early Dreamcatcher songs, but she never felt super confident with it. They actually just discussed this on vLive over the weekend - that when they were recording "Piri" they each recorded the entire song individually and LEEZ/Ollounder decided that Gahyeon did the best accenting Dami's main rap flow. Since then Gahyeon has rapped on "Breaking Out" and "Scream" and although she doesn't consider herself a permanent "sub-rapper" it seems that is a role she is good at. Meanwhile SuA is actually quite a good freestyle rapper - she's shown her skills during some variety shows - but she just doesn't want to focus on it; she is much more into choreography development.
MINX is a very mixed subject for the Dreamcatcher girls. Obviously the flop and disbandment was harsh, and JiU and Siyeon took it particularly hard. As leader JiU felt like she had personally failed - the company, the members and herself - and to this day she is very emotional at fan events. Siyeon was very uncomfortable with the concept - obviously it's really not any more explicit than some other girl groups but she felt very sexualized (she was 19 when this was filmed) from some of the camera angles, and while she WILL still wear crop tops and shorts on occasion, she actively dislikes doing so. Dami was only 17 when they debuted as MINX, and although I can't remember her ever talking about the experience, she seems MUCH more comfortable with her current concept and role. Happyface learned a lot from the flop and how the members felt, and have given the members of Dreamcatcher a great deal more control over their wardrobes and presentation. SuA & Yoohyeon occasionally sing MINX songs on vLive, but overall it feels like the members would prefer that their past incarnation just be forgotten.
Siyeon will try her hand at rapping in this new mini-album. I'm very excited.
@@jeanabradbury3766 we all know Siyeon is actually a rap goddess lmao
Pretty sure all the members could pull off all the roles at this point, they're so ridiculously versatile. Just listen to Dami in Jazz Bar, how many main rappers sing that well and that differently from how they rap?
one funny occasion to add: during Sua's birthday vlive, she was at a karaoke bar with Jiu and Siyeon and they were searching for "Love shake" to sing but the song list didn't have it😂😂
im just curious where did siyeon tell abt feeling uncomfrotable with the concept of minx? Just wanna read or watch more abt it.
Siyeon letting out a whistle note on her debut track is just 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
They actually had the same positions in Minx as they do in Dreamcatcher! The only position change was Dami no longer being the Maknae because of Gahyeon being added.
thank you!
Well, Maknae is not really a position '-'
@@NerdChannelBrasil True, it just means that she wasn't the youngest anymore. Something that Dami appreciated because she disliked being asked to do aegyo all them time, something that nearly every maknae is asked to do
Yeah they are the same now. Which i think should change because Sua has been a lead rapper since 2014 and hasn’t really rapped since 2017 we all know she can sing her head of and is even more comfortable singing than rapping so i feel after 6 years 😂 she deserves to become a lead vocalist 😌
@@NerdChannelBrasil While its *technically* not a position - maknaes usually get assigned to be the "cute" one that literally get asked to do aegyo 9 out of 10 times
Minx just had a bad timming . They debuted at times when a lot of new groups that now are very famous debuted.
G friend being one of them and we know how they blew up and RV also dropped their first full album around that time.
@@Metalstryk3 And Twice. Specifically for the comeback not this song as Twice came out late 2K15
You could say it was good timing, because without the loss of Minx, we wouldn't have Dreamcatcher. I don't necessarily believe in this, but you could say "everything happens for a reason" :)
MINX cute and sexy-ish concept was heavily influenced by their older sister group Dal☆Shabet! Dal☆Shabet was known for switching between the cute to sexy to cute/sexy concepts every comeback, and it became a staple of the group's appeal. MINX was supposed to up hold that legacy, but after a majority of the members came forward to their company saying they didnt feel like they could show all they had to show with the current concept the company did a complete 180 with the group. Thus, leading to Dream Catcher!
I've seen a lot of DreamCatcher fans talk down about this song and these times as if it was a bad thing but honestly, I don't think this was a bad song or debut. It just came at a bad time, a lot of things happened in the Kpop world in late 2014 good and bad that overshadowed this. Plus 2014 was when we really started to see a rise in the brighter "cute" groups. Its always safe to follow the trend and debut a group with a concept that's currently popular (which is why we see a lot of Girl Crush lately), but the drawback is, you risk not standing out. They could've stuck it out and continued with Minx in hopes of something hitting it big down the road, but that means pouring in more money in to the group with ok success. But instead. HappyFace Entertainment chose to scrap the group and restructure them from scratch and they became DreamCatcher. In a way, that's a bigger gamble since now you're not going with what's proven to work for the market ("Cute/Innocent" concept) and instead doing something that's never really done before so you don't know how people will receive it. Even now, I feel like Korea is still iffy on DreamCatcher, but thankfully in they grabbed international audience's attention and this worked in the company's favor in the end. Plus I'm pretty sure majority of Dreamcatcher weren't really fond of the concept to begin with and I'm sure Dami is glad to not be the maknae.
I think I get why many fans talk bad about it, not just because of the opposite difference between Dreamcatcher and MINX. MINX's concept is cute for sure, but I think Happyface Ent at that time failed to make it more refreshing. Now what I mean is that they put some "sexy" elements to the overall cute concept, but the product after all looked quite a mess. It made me feel cringey at some points for real. And to be honest, the members look awkward expressed their concept through the song too.
they debut in 2014 with cute concept, but 2015-2016 is gfriend era with cute concept, and no group can beat them at that concept
This song indeed is STUPID GOOD! I can't believe they gained almost no attention with this! I love the actual Dreamcatcher but this song and this concept is everything as well!
Minx would've been REALLY popular if they had just debutes at a different time. Plus, Their 1st comeback was almost a year later and since they aren't a "Big 3", the almost year long wait backfired on them.
To be fair I'm kinda happy they rebranded - since the girls themselves said they didn't enjoy the concept and I would hate for them to have been stuck doing something they did not enjoy for years on end
@@llllll1897 Same here!^^ While I was somewhat ok with Minx, I love Dreamcatcher SO much more. I can't wait until their comeback!!!^^
Okay those high notes are just plain RUDE!! How the actual--?!
3:49 It’s funny cuz Minx is like a dark past for Dc. Every time an mc brings up minx or ‘cute concepts’ Dc’s faces r like 🤨😟🤮 and it’s a insomnia inside joke to go *minx war flashbacks* !!!
Even Handong and Gahyeon tease their members about their past. There’s this one clip where sua is teasing dami and dongie for their short hair and handong does a little part of sua’s choreo in love shake teasing her bob and Sua looks like she’s about to DIE. Lol our girls r such memes!!
for real??? i need to see this, where the sauce at?????
i couldn’t find the full vid but i saw it in this video th-cam.com/video/--WktuP4nNc/w-d-xo.html at 10.23 is where the clip starts lol dong not afraid of death
Dongie is such a savage legend... I STAN😂
@@samliz_vo that was epic!!!
Barrabas lol thanks Dreamcatcher are hilarious 😂
4:59 siyeon's high note
Wbk these girls had VOCALS. That high note is AMAZING
Yeahhh Siyeon is amazing vocalist
Had...? They still do
These girls have* vocals.
Really love this song 😭😭😭
Siyeon's high note 😱🤯
World must know about this song!!!
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MINX❤❤
Why Did You Come To My Home is my favourite from Minx. The chorus is so addicting. I remember singing it all the time after my first listen when I didn't know if I liked it or not. It made me realise I liked it.
Legend are back as Dreamcatcher .
Shout out to whistle high note!!
The vocals r not only in MV, but also lives. You can react their debut live performance. They slayed.
DC girls eat any concept they take on. Title track or B-side they slay them all. 💜
Sua teased that there may be some slight role switches in their next album as well. DYSTOPIA - Lose Myself drops on 17 Aug!
Yaass!! Pre-DC, these ladies were THAT good even before. I'll be back for tomorrow.
when i watched the minx videos i was like why weren't they popular back then
Siyeon whistle tones? Cool. My heart goes out to JiU who must have taken failure hard, but really, I have to be glad they failed. The world doesn't need another cute/sexy concept Kpop girl group. It NEEDS Dreamcatcher!! I had enjoyed watching Minx a few times but when I saw Chase Me (actually the dance MV first), I was blown away, and have been again and again since. Now JiU is my bias and I listen to Dreamcatcher every day.
This song is in repeat on my Spotify lol🤧
Minx debuting with this monster of a track and then re-debuts 3 years later with an even bigger monster of a song!!
ABSOLUTE BANGER OF A DEBUT
Too bad it was poorly timed, Minx was dope.
Either way though, the girls don't like the cute concept and are happy now in DC with Gah and Dongie, so I can't complain (even if I desperately want to see Minx Gahyeon)
Can you imagine if they did a dark Minx concept though? Like Fly High cranked up to 11 where they’re freakin’ cute but also will happily and horrifically end you.
I think I just want to see Dami back in pigtails wielding a giant axe or something. 👻
Yeah they really enjoy their concept now. Some of them is big fan of rock music. Like siyeon is ok rock (i forgor the group name) fans, yoohyeon is day6 big fan, and almost all of them like baby metal.
Also siyeon is former band singer in her highschool😭😭😭
bruh nobody is ready for Minx Gahyeon, that being could kill the entire world with visual diabetes
it's great that reactors are finally noticing Minx.
Im waiting for this 😂😂😂😂
Just imagine how ppl slept on MINX that time
Siyeon's high note strikes again!
Of all the reactors to have watched this I think you were the most comfortable/unfazed by the butt shots XD but also, that Gon tee is tight.
You should see this as a live performance 💛💛 they rocked it
REALLY MISS THIS SONG HUHUUU
DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE THAT MINX = DREAMCATCHER HHAHHA
Yesssss
by the way, I want your tshirt it looks dope
God!!!! I love your reaction!!! Soooo good!! Specially when you talked about the debuts hahahaha love you!!!!!
Here in 2024
Remarkable how well-executed the vocals and choreo are and how catchy the song itself is, even when the concept wasn't noteworthy enough to get them any attention. Still super glad that Happyface realized that the problem was the concept and timing and not the girls, so they redebuted them with DC's waaay better style instead of giving up entirely. Huge props to the studio for having that kind of foresight.
Their Minx days reminds me a little bit of Young Sistar
I really one day have to up my patronage and request a DC/Minx only stream. I would like you to react to some of their radio appearances and live stages (I know you already did some DC content)
Siyeon actually didnt like the whole minx concept
Every insomnies come to minx at last.
It's so lit 🔥 right! They're so good since minx but sadly their debut got overshadowed(?) By other groups who also debuted at the same time. Actually i like them being minx, cuz members can be themselves even on stage(I mean they're also bubbly off stage too) but I'm much more happy when they became DC.. with gahyeonie and dongie❤😍 It seems perfect since they really enjoyed it now 😊. But I know it's hard for Jiu as a leader at that time tho..she still emotional😔 and for siyeon she's really not comfortable on minx concept.. as you can see siyeon in Dreamcatcher she really love to wear pants 😐 I think even dami too is not comfortable. So thankfully Dreamcatcher exist now❤❤😍
Next up is Love Shake if you havent seen our DC girls do that one yet
I am still appalled by the fact people didn't give them attention after THAT debut. But oh well, we later got Dreamcatcher so maybe it was for the better?
Agreed. This song is exactly what appealed to people at the time, but there were too many girl groups with similar concepts debuting or dropping music just then. It must have been so hard to get so little acknowledgment when they were SO GOOD, but I’m glad they’ve moved on to something more unique.
There are so many cases in kpop where talents and good songs don't get recognized that I'm not even surprised anymore.
You need to check out the dance video for good night the outfits are so good.
DC comeback Aug. 17th 2020.
Lol!! Siyeon slayed high pitch!!
this song is a bop tho. there so cute eh haha
Thanks to happyface entertainment that didnt abandon them and didnt let them flop. Im super glad that they didnt gave up and try to debut one more time😭 (dont get me wrong they are super good in minx era but yeah people sleep on them)
you should check this live performance!!! you will shock more than this 😅😅😅
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They're all smiling so clearly not Dreamcatcher. Dreamcatcher don't smile. If you want to know why Minx failed watch this th-cam.com/video/YIgCAp3i1os/w-d-xo.html I like the song and the way the girls presented themselves is much closer to the way they are in their VLives and Vlogs.
hi!!!! 1team just had a comeback we would really appreciate if you reacted to it!! it's a single called ullaeli kkollaeli!
Ben 2Kids by Taemin is out im waiting for your reaction hh :DD
minx concept did'nt clicked and the fact that they debut with monster rookies like mamamoo, red velvet and lovelyz
Ok. So you said you gonna react to another Minx. i give some info, next title is Love Shake and that title (I'm not offense it cause Minx and DalShabet is a same company. Happyface Entertaiment) is supose singing by DalShabet but some reason HFE give to Minx singing Love Shake. Also please React to DalShabet (if already react, please look another song or see colab to Minx).
one of DREAMCATCHER reactors was here too! 😂🤣
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YES.
Beyoncé could never
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Please react to Juicy - Rocket Punch 😭😍💙💙
He talks all through the react and doesn't hear the song. -_-
this song is genuinely good 😭 but i'm glad they flopped with that lol siyeon would quit the group in less than a year
Please react to [mama 2016] EXO ... it's amazing their dance and vocals .. fire 🔥
PLEASE REACT TO CIX JUNGLE MV TEASER
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I honestly really like the chorus of this song, it slaps, but the verses are just too obnoxious sounding for me to handle. 😭
Please react lalary
Please react to exo cosmic railway ,baby dont cry with dance, paper cut and promise live performance
Plz react to taemin 2kids
Hey yo deacs. I know you kpop reactor. But I hope you can react Weird Genius - Lathi song
Ehm. There is sub channel for Western Song (I know that song from Indo, but Still). You should comment to hellBENt insteed of this.
@@khusnulriadhi6374 nama saluran nya apa?
Did i comment that twice? Or not read carefully?
As good as this is, I still think they don't suit this concept. Just knowing that they were "cutesy" before what they are now makes me cringe. XD Even the girls themselves want to forget this.
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