If one of these can go 5 years, than it would be worth scrapping it and buying new. If it only last a year, than I might try to find someone to service it.
@@Nothingtoya Service will cost you multiple times what you paid for the watch, it is not an easy movement to service. But you can buy the movement separately and you could let someone simply switch them out.
@@chrirsch91 you're right, I've gotten into building watches since I made this comment, I'm waiting on parts for 2 more. So I'm with you, I'd just replace the movement myself
I just received my 1963 from HKED; Champaign dial, brown leather strap, acrylic crystal and display back. Very elegant looking timepiece and fits my wrist well. Compared to my Citizen Eco Drive chrono, I don't even know that I'm wearing it. Doing a 24 hour break-in of the movement now as in running the chrono portion continuously to wear in the meshing of the teeth of the chrono drive. Very smooth movement of the hands and winding of the watch. Glad I paid a little more to HKED for this beauty.
I have had mine for 3 years with no problems. I bought mine from Poljot24 in Germany. I opted for the 38mm with Sapphire on a Rios light brown leather strap. It's easier to show people the rear of the watch. Natos are annoying and make the watch sit too high. My only other newish watch is my Sea-gull Ocean Star diver on it's original bracelet. I have had it 4 years with no problems.
Mine is the 38mm, sapphire crystal and swan neck regulator. It is right at +2 seconds a day from the factory. I replaced the band with a Benchmark full grain leather in Bordeaux color. It is an absolutely beautiful watch that I would recommend to anyone.
Thanks for your review. I bought this one from Burnside Chrono in Australia and paid a bit more to have them test a few and then send me the one that seemed to pass their tests. It's a real snappy watch and works great in my collection as I love subdials. My local jeweler is a bit of a treasure in that he does service pretty much anything and does a good job. I agree with you that if folks could find watches like these from known names, "fashion watches" would cease to exist. Longines, Oris, Seiko and MANY other manufacturers make amazing mechanical watches that are fashionable, long lasting and worth investing in over something you just wear as a fashion accessory.
You just made me feel that you don’t wear a watch just because you like it you wear it because you create a personal bond or connection to a watch. Very well presented and excellent review which is so much different from other reviewers I’ve seen. Well done
5:30 sell it for spare on ebay (either as non working or partially) since several "watch repair amateurs" could possibly do better (or worse depending on their skills) ... i'm in if you are in europe ... close to France preferably
You make incredible videos and have excellent taste. I'm very happy I found your channel... I have probably rewatched the TUDOR Ranger video 10 times. 🙏🏾
I think of it like this, if you have a sample that runs well it's like you bought an old v175 for cheap that would eventually need maintenance and regulation. With that done professionally, you will have a really nice chrono piece that will work great for a long time for fraction of the cost of other column wheel chrono (even with the cost of total strip down).
Literally have this on my wrist right now except from red Star (no Plan B on the back) and with the swan neck regulator. Mine came with a brown leather strap, as well as the green, that I'm fond of.
My wife brought one back from China for me: it's a Sugess version, 38mm with a nice leather strap and a Milanese mesh bracelet... I really love it! Thanks for an excellent review of a classic watch. 🙂🍻
The servicing part is a big positive for me. I can get it serviced from a reputable watchmaker for under $50 probably closer to $20 in Pakistan. Will be saving for this one to get later this year.
Not only is the watch beautiful, but so are the backgrounds and cinematography in this video. I love the green strap coupled with the verdant outdoor surroundings. I'm by no means a watch guy, first watch I bought with my own money is a Casio AE1200, but I've fallen in love with the Seagull 1963 and the Orient Bambino. It would be great to see a video on the latter.
I know some people complain about these movements, but mine is just perfect, especially the crown, it makes the best sound while turning and has great feedback
Not a Sea-Gull, but a Sugess. Yes, with a Sea-Gull movement. I have the luminous version. Lume is a laugh. Sea-Gull does not make a version with open caseback (nor at 40mm). Great vid!
I own two of these. A 40mm Chrono Heritage M1963/X - SEA-GULL ST1901 bought directly from Sugess Watch in China and a 40mm limited edition Red Star bronze Seagull 1963 that came from the official Seagull 1963 store in Belgium. The Seagull is a watch that is hard to fault and I‘m quite fond of both of mine but my customer experience with both companies was hardly satisfactory. In sum I was swindled twice. The Sugess was supposed to come with the Swan Neck movement but didn‘t and unfortunately too much time had elapsed before I found out for me to be able to do anything about it. As for the Belgian Seagull 1963, it was only after I had received it that I found out that they do not individually number their limited edition watches (instead all 300 are numbered 1/300) and that it was missing it‘s tag, manual and registration QR code. It was also shipped about two months past it‘s preassigned shipping date. The company in Belgium casually dismissed my concerns and when I asked to return it they informed me that the 14 day return policy had expired. Be very careful who you buy from. The Seagull 1963 company in Belgium seems rotten to the core. I wouldn’t deal with them again if they paid me. BEWARE.
You can service it yourself. I bought 4 scrappers and experimented on them for 3-4 months. Now I am able to do basic service of strip down, clean, lubrication and assembly myself. I do not have know how or tools to serious repair- but you can get spare movement from China for about half price of the watch. BTW I own couple of watches witch Chinese movements (like pt5000) and I strongly recommend to do clean and proper lubrication before any use ! Some of them are really very high quality pieces but assembled poorly.
@@avarmauk I am (among other trades) a car mechanic. Those machines are infinitely more complicated than watches. It makes me laugh BTW when watch companies are selling watches for price of a car. More I am laughing at people that believe this price is justified by engineering or manufacturing complexity 🤣😂
My first 1963 SeaGull pilot chronograph is winging its way to me from China. I would buy duplicates of all watches I own (about 2 mechanicals !) and study to disassemble and service them myself, as suggested here.
You can buy a replacement movement for half the price of the watch. With a few tools, and a bit of courage, you can swap out the seized/broken movement for the new one. Or a local watch maker will do the job for you at a reasonable price.
Actually perfect for me, love the vintage look, I am new to watches currently I have 2 a seiko sport 5, and beacuse i like vintage looks and I am abit of a history buff a Sturmaskie gagarin. Add onto that that I am a chinese student (studying chinese not being chinese) really leaves this as the next pickup I think
Lovely watch, have owned one for the last 10 months. Super accurate for a hand wind budget chronograph, however the top, stop/start pusher has started to malfunction as the second time you push it, it resets the timer, instead of pausing it.
Mine only lasted a couple of months before the hand came off the minute subdial. I made the mistake of paying a shop to fix it and then it immediately came off again the first time I wore it.
A very beautiful watch, looks like itwould have cost more money. I have just moved bach into mechanical watches. I got a vintage Technos Birka from the late 1950s serviced, i had inheritated that from my father. Then bought a Tevise automatic just to see if i liked automatic watches. And then bought a Seiko 5 SNZG11J, now i am looking for a non quartz chronograph. Thanks to your excellent video, i saw a mechanical chronogrsph that is in my pricerange.
Many thanks for sharing this perfect review. What do you think about the swan neck regulator version of this movement? I heard some complaints about reliability on this watch. What do you think about it?
Thank you! I think the modernised swan neck movement makes sense, particularly since it might be a little easier to regulate. This movement, in my one is mass produced and has some rough edges (on closer inspection I have dust in there) so I’m not surprised if there are reliability issues out there. That said, for the very reasonable amount asked, I feel a warranty claim or even purchase of a new one is no big deal
I have the 38mm model as I like that the hands reach the outer chapter ring. They use the same hands for the bigger model. I agree with you that the crown is a bit small and fiddly.
Hi Esbjorn, I've got the limited version Plan B from Poljot 24 here in Germany and was wondering if your version had the minute chrono counter also turn slightly before the chrono second hand hit the twelve o'clock marking? Thanks
I just received mine (Seagull ST1901 - White Swan variant) this morning and the very first thing I noticed was that the second hand was running continuously, I thought hmm that's not how my other chronographs work... I tried the start/stop pusher and nothing happens, I know I'm not supposed to press the reset pusher whilst the second hand is running but no dice. Nothing either. Is this the way this watch is sold? Are the pushers decorative? I'm thinking I've got a lemon.
I put mine on an Ali Express presidential bracelet. I found the NATO made it sit too high on my wrist. On waste, I've taught myself enough to be able to change a movement.
From memory, the Swan Neck makes it easier to regulate the movement. So if that's something you're likely to do, I'd get it with. The Seagull1963 official store has more info on this I believe.
This version is not an official one, and it was not made in the Tianjin factory. I wonder whether one can call it "fake" because as far as I know, the movement shares the same components as the official one.
It's such a great watch but it suffers from "Trolleri". 38mm looks too small but the 40mm looks too big 🤣 with a 7 inch wrist I'd have to go for the 38.
I own this 40mm, Plan B, Saphire watch. My only complaint is the minute hand not reaching the minute markers. Seems like a design flaw on this version, as the minute hand normally reaches all the way out to the case, on all other versions.
It looks like they just used the same parts just with a larger dial for the larger case. If it was perhaps made in a different country of origin, I would safely bet that the hands would also be changed to work with the larger diameter.
very nice video, i also own Pagani design watch same quality but rolex model it cost me 60 euro , awsome quality, you can check brass watch actually they have almost same model but cost around 60 euro
Can someone help me with a link to this watch? I saw so many similar watches listed at so many places at very different price points. I am not able to figure out a genuine version.
Don’t worry, most of the ‘fakes’ use the same movement but you can also buy from the original factory directly. Have a read of the article I put in the description, it will help you 👍
This watch got my attention a while ago... As someone that has to save up to get one 200€ watch, its a tough choice. I have heard for the service expenses and its the only deal breaker for me. So how long until it needs one? Also i found it on several retailers on Chrono24 and prices vary a lot, (i can get it from Germany at 260$ plus shipping or 200$ from Hong Kong with free shipping) and that has me worried... With Seiko/Orient watches, prices are relatively close unless they are second hand watches... Can anyone provide me with answers?
Have a look at the article in the description of the video, it’s really interesting. The AliExpress ones look identical, have the same movement and are a great choice on a budget. I’d google the movement and see what peoples experiences are with needing service. Three to five years shouldn’t be a problem. Even micro brand Baltic used the same movement in some of their watches. Good luck 🙂
Are you referring to the lume? I was considering the same 40mm lume option over the classic one. Is it good or is it going to die of after a minute in a dark room?
Its a nice replica, but its not a genuine Sea-Gull watch, sadly. Sea-Gull don't do transparent backs on their watches for the 1963 line - never have done, they're always engraved and highly polished casebacks. Any watch that is the genuine article will have a proper engraved back with the appropriate SeaGull branding. In addition, your 1963 is missing the 'China' marking which sits above the "Tianjin Watch Factory' marking on the main dial. Unfortunately there are far too many who produce these watches with these (glaring if you know) mistakes - it may have a genuine ST19 movement in it which are easy to get a hold of, but sadly, this isn't an authentic Sea-Gull. Most people really need to do their homework or have a line into someone who can source them direct from Tianjin.......if you're fortunate, you'll have both :D
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews No, I was looking at reviews and while it obviously still has the unique champagne dial, the lume makes it look a lot more modern and more similar to other watches so it looses some of the time period asthetic (in my opinion). However, I also bought the Sugess chronograph which does have lume and looks excellent as it's not supposed to be a period piece.
![the ST19 is going away, get it while you can! [Red Star Seagull Sea-Gull 1963 review]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hyRHa_mCtk0/mqdefault.jpg)
that shot from 6:12 to 6:50 was absolutely beautiful, well done!
Thank you ☺
I own this watch and love it. It's been three years and the watch is still running strong.
Great to hear!
If one of these can go 5 years, than it would be worth scrapping it and buying new. If it only last a year, than I might try to find someone to service it.
@@Nothingtoya Service will cost you multiple times what you paid for the watch, it is not an easy movement to service. But you can buy the movement separately and you could let someone simply switch them out.
@@chrirsch91 you're right, I've gotten into building watches since I made this comment, I'm waiting on parts for 2 more. So I'm with you, I'd just replace the movement myself
Did you get it with or without the swan neck regulator? And have you had to crack it open to adjust it
Your the first watch TH-camr that has actually bothered to sync the second hand with the chrono in your macro shots. Awesome attention to detail.
Thanks very much, that’s one thing I learnt from Watchfinder who always do this (and everything really) so well. Appreciate the comment 😊
I just received my 1963 from HKED; Champaign dial, brown leather strap, acrylic crystal and display back.
Very elegant looking timepiece and fits my wrist well. Compared to my Citizen Eco Drive chrono, I don't
even know that I'm wearing it.
Doing a 24 hour break-in of the movement now as in running the chrono portion continuously to wear in the
meshing of the teeth of the chrono drive. Very smooth movement of the hands and winding of the watch.
Glad I paid a little more to HKED for this beauty.
I have had mine for 3 years with no problems. I bought mine from Poljot24 in Germany.
I opted for the 38mm with Sapphire on a Rios light brown leather strap.
It's easier to show people the rear of the watch. Natos are annoying and make the watch sit too high.
My only other newish watch is my Sea-gull Ocean Star diver on it's original bracelet. I have had it 4 years with no problems.
Natos don't make any sense with window backs.
Mine is the 38mm, sapphire crystal and swan neck regulator. It is right at +2 seconds a day from the factory. I replaced the band with a Benchmark full grain leather in Bordeaux color. It is an absolutely beautiful watch that I would recommend to anyone.
Thanks for your review. I bought this one from Burnside Chrono in Australia and paid a bit more to have them test a few and then send me the one that seemed to pass their tests. It's a real snappy watch and works great in my collection as I love subdials. My local jeweler is a bit of a treasure in that he does service pretty much anything and does a good job. I agree with you that if folks could find watches like these from known names, "fashion watches" would cease to exist. Longines, Oris, Seiko and MANY other manufacturers make amazing mechanical watches that are fashionable, long lasting and worth investing in over something you just wear as a fashion accessory.
Wow,that’s a great approach to getting that perfect one! Thanks so much for your comment 👍
Burnside Chrono Adelaide Australia.. Just good people. Really worth connecting with.
You just made me feel that you don’t wear a watch just because you like it you wear it because you create a personal bond or connection to a watch. Very well presented and excellent review which is so much different from other reviewers I’ve seen. Well done
Thank you very much 🙂
Another beautifully creative review, I actually ordered this watch one week ago and can’t wait to see it in person.
Thank you, it’s a lovely watch 🙂
There is a third option -- Buy a replacement movement, and just swap it into the watch or get someone locally to do it for you.
Which movement that I can replace it with ?
@@TheRamarsetya another Sea-gull ST1901, so the same movement it came with.
5:30 sell it for spare on ebay (either as non working or partially) since several "watch repair amateurs" could possibly do better (or worse depending on their skills) ... i'm in if you are in europe ... close to France preferably
I also have the Seagull 1963 and love it!! Thanks so much for highlighting it in your video. Great video!
Thank you 🙂
Great vid. The cinematography, music, voice-over. Excellent
Thank you so much!
Agreed! Great camera work!
You make incredible videos and have excellent taste. I'm very happy I found your channel... I have probably rewatched the TUDOR Ranger video 10 times.
🙏🏾
Thank you so much, that’s very kind. It’s a hobby I love and don’t rely on for money so I can do what I like, how I like it …which is liberating 😊
I think of it like this, if you have a sample that runs well it's like you bought an old v175 for cheap that would eventually need maintenance and regulation. With that done professionally, you will have a really nice chrono piece that will work great for a long time for fraction of the cost of other column wheel chrono (even with the cost of total strip down).
Well said 👍🏻
Thanks for making this video. I appreciate your perspective and insights after having owned and worn this one for a while. Cheers!
Thanks so much 🙂
Literally have this on my wrist right now except from red Star (no Plan B on the back) and with the swan neck regulator.
Mine came with a brown leather strap, as well as the green, that I'm fond of.
My wife brought one back from China for me: it's a Sugess version, 38mm with a nice leather strap and a Milanese mesh bracelet... I really love it! Thanks for an excellent review of a classic watch. 🙂🍻
Lovely! And thank you 🙂
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews 👍👋
Great video, photography is great and the review is a great intelligent appraisal of aesthetics and features.
Thanks so much 🙂
The servicing part is a big positive for me. I can get it serviced from a reputable watchmaker for under $50 probably closer to $20 in Pakistan. Will be saving for this one to get later this year.
Not only is the watch beautiful, but so are the backgrounds and cinematography in this video. I love the green strap coupled with the verdant outdoor surroundings. I'm by no means a watch guy, first watch I bought with my own money is a Casio AE1200, but I've fallen in love with the Seagull 1963 and the Orient Bambino. It would be great to see a video on the latter.
Thanks so much for your kind words! My son has a Bambino so it might happen!
Great watch! The legendary venus 175 caliber is revived. Dream caliber that the competition today does not have!
Just ordered the 38mm. Such a unique looking and affordable chronograph.
It sure is, you'll love it :)
I like your voice tone during the video. This makes you unique 👏🏻
Thank you 😊
I know some people complain about these movements, but mine is just perfect, especially the crown, it makes the best sound while turning and has great feedback
Great review of a truly beautiful watch 🙌🏽
Thanks ☺️
I bought the 38 mm Sugess looks great and keeps good time I don't wear it often but I do really like it ,less than $200
Great watch to make a review of. It is value for money and it backs a nice simple story for all watch collectors.
Thanks very much 🙂
Great video and review. That has just made me get off the fence and get one. Thanks 👍
Thanks very much, and you won’t regret it 👍
It's definitely a unique piece. Tempted to get one. Thanks for the well made video.
Thank you 😊
Have ordered one, can't wait for it to arrive.
You’ll love it 👍
Not a Sea-Gull, but a Sugess. Yes, with a Sea-Gull movement. I have the luminous version. Lume is a laugh.
Sea-Gull does not make a version with open caseback (nor at 40mm).
Great vid!
Thanks for your comment
Lovely watch. I'm very tempted.
Beautiful watch, beautiful video!
Thank you 😊
good editing and sound. quality video
Thanks!
I own two of these. A 40mm Chrono Heritage M1963/X - SEA-GULL ST1901 bought directly from Sugess Watch in China and a 40mm limited edition Red Star bronze Seagull 1963 that came from the official Seagull 1963 store in Belgium. The Seagull is a watch that is hard to fault and I‘m quite fond of both of mine but my customer experience with both companies was hardly satisfactory. In sum I was swindled twice. The Sugess was supposed to come with the Swan Neck movement but didn‘t and unfortunately too much time had elapsed before I found out for me to be able to do anything about it. As for the Belgian Seagull 1963, it was only after I had received it that I found out that they do not individually number their limited edition watches (instead all 300 are numbered 1/300) and that it was missing it‘s tag, manual and registration QR code. It was also shipped about two months past it‘s preassigned shipping date. The company in Belgium casually dismissed my concerns and when I asked to return it they informed me that the 14 day return policy had expired. Be very careful who you buy from. The Seagull 1963 company in Belgium seems rotten to the core. I wouldn’t deal with them again if they paid me. BEWARE.
Very interesting information, thank you for taking the time to share this
I don't believe you mentioned the lug width in your video, if you have the chance, could you please let me know what it is? Thanks! Great video!
Thanks Brian! Lug width on this one is 20mm
You can service it yourself. I bought 4 scrappers and experimented on them for 3-4 months. Now I am able to do basic service of strip down, clean, lubrication and assembly myself. I do not have know how or tools to serious repair- but you can get spare movement from China for about half price of the watch.
BTW I own couple of watches witch Chinese movements (like pt5000) and I strongly recommend to do clean and proper lubrication before any use ! Some of them are really very high quality pieces but assembled poorly.
Great tips, thanks for sharing mate
I’m impressed
@@avarmauk I am (among other trades) a car mechanic. Those machines are infinitely more complicated than watches. It makes me laugh BTW when watch companies are selling watches for price of a car. More I am laughing at people that believe this price is justified by engineering or manufacturing complexity 🤣😂
@@mkw2555 that’s very interesting to hear. Honestly I thought it was the other way around. But I guess that makes a lot of sense.
My first 1963 SeaGull pilot chronograph is winging its way to me from China.
I would buy duplicates of all watches I own (about 2 mechanicals !) and study to disassemble and service them myself, as suggested here.
Waiting for mine. Im soooo excited and nervous at the same time 😅
You’ll love it 😊
You can buy a replacement movement for half the price of the watch. With a few tools, and a bit of courage, you can swap out the seized/broken movement for the new one. Or a local watch maker will do the job for you at a reasonable price.
I have choosen the 40mm, sapphire cristal with the swan neck regulator.
There was no lume option on this.
Enjoy 👍🏻
Just found out about these while checking out Seiko 5s .... I think I need a chronograph now :(
It’s a beautiful watch on wrist 🙂
i think i will have it serviced. i owe it to this lil beauty
Love that 👍🏻
Actually perfect for me, love the vintage look, I am new to watches currently I have 2 a seiko sport 5, and beacuse i like vintage looks and I am abit of a history buff a Sturmaskie gagarin. Add onto that that I am a chinese student (studying chinese not being chinese) really leaves this as the next pickup I think
Yes, obvious choice for you and a very good one 😊
Lovely watch, have owned one for the last 10 months. Super accurate for a hand wind budget chronograph, however the top, stop/start pusher has started to malfunction as the second time you push it, it resets the timer, instead of pausing it.
It’s certainly beautiful, hope this is covered under warranty for you !
Mine only lasted a couple of months before the hand came off the minute subdial. I made the mistake of paying a shop to fix it and then it immediately came off again the first time I wore it.
Gosh, that’s a bad story 😞
simple retro, but elegant looking watch!
A very beautiful watch, looks like itwould have cost more money. I have just moved bach into mechanical watches. I got a vintage Technos Birka from the late 1950s serviced, i had inheritated that from my father. Then bought a Tevise automatic just to see if i liked automatic watches. And then bought a Seiko 5 SNZG11J, now i am looking for a non quartz chronograph. Thanks to your excellent video, i saw a mechanical chronogrsph that is in my pricerange.
Thanks Johan!
Many thanks for sharing this perfect review. What do you think about the swan neck regulator version of this movement? I heard some complaints about reliability on this watch. What do you think about it?
Thank you! I think the modernised swan neck movement makes sense, particularly since it might be a little easier to regulate. This movement, in my one is mass produced and has some rough edges (on closer inspection I have dust in there) so I’m not surprised if there are reliability issues out there. That said, for the very reasonable amount asked, I feel a warranty claim or even purchase of a new one is no big deal
I have the 38mm model as I like that the hands reach the outer chapter ring. They use the same hands for the bigger model. I agree with you that the crown is a bit small and fiddly.
Thanks for your comment 😊👍🏻
I'm considering getting one for myself. Is it worth paying a bit more for the gooseneck?
I believe all that does is slightly easier to regulate, so unless you’re planning to do that…. 🙂
Hi Esbjorn,
I've got the limited version Plan B from Poljot 24 here in Germany and was wondering if your version had the minute chrono counter also turn slightly before the chrono second hand hit the twelve o'clock marking?
Thanks
Hi Frank, congrats! No, I've not experienced that
Really great video just thinking to buy one!
Thanks! You won’t regret it 😊👍
Can you make an updated video about your seagull watch ? Nice greetings from Austria 🇦🇹
Still waiting 😮
My wife loves the look of this and I will be buying it for her. Just concerned about how long these would last and reliability
Hard to say, but worst case scenario - buying a brand new movement when/if the day comes, won’t cost you much. Thanks for your comment
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews thank you sir! This pushed me to buying it!
How would one go about finding a new movement and getting it installed?
Especifically, in which store in Ali Express did you get it? There are many different stores offering what it seems like the same watch.
Yes, and they likely are…..check out Jody at Just One More Watch latest reviews, that has links. I got mine from GIV official store”
I just received mine (Seagull ST1901 - White Swan variant) this morning and the very first thing I noticed was that the second hand was running continuously, I thought hmm that's not how my other chronographs work... I tried the start/stop pusher and nothing happens, I know I'm not supposed to press the reset pusher whilst the second hand is running but no dice. Nothing either. Is this the way this watch is sold? Are the pushers decorative? I'm thinking I've got a lemon.
Hey, you mean the large second hand right? No, should definitely not run continuously so I’d contact the seller to have it replaced
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews sorry yes (red tipped hand) that’s what I meant. Ok that’s what I thought. Thanks!
Thanks, I have a question. What's the difference between the gooseneck and non gooseneck versions? And is it worth 20 pounds more?
The gooseneck just makes it easier to regulate the movement but it looks quite nice too. I’d spend the extra 20 quid.
I put mine on an Ali Express presidential bracelet. I found the NATO made it sit too high on my wrist. On waste, I've taught myself enough to be able to change a movement.
Should i take it with swan movement or not and what's the difference?
From memory, the Swan Neck makes it easier to regulate the movement. So if that's something you're likely to do, I'd get it with. The Seagull1963 official store has more info on this I believe.
Interestingly, with the modern versions, even the watches marked "19 Zuan" have 21 jewels due to having the same movement.
Thank you for the informative video! I would like to get a watch like this!
Nice video‚ where did you get this watch ?
Thanks. AliExpress
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews Thank you
This version is not an official one, and it was not made in the Tianjin factory. I wonder whether one can call it "fake" because as far as I know, the movement shares the same components as the official one.
@@baristhealienated I believe I cover this in the review and in description of the video. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
what was the name of the shop on AliEpress ? And how is the watch , still ok ?
I ordered from “GIV Official Store” if that helps and yes still absolutely fine 👍
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews Thanks, I will have a look at it now.
I fully agree with the crown being too small. It hurts my fingertips.
It's such a great watch but it suffers from "Trolleri". 38mm looks too small but the 40mm looks too big 🤣 with a 7 inch wrist I'd have to go for the 38.
You can order the st1901 movement off aliexpress for around $80
Great tip, thanks 👍
Well presented, thanks.
Thank you, appreciated
What is the best watch with st1901 movement and where to get it from
Have a look at the article I linked up in the description
It's a beautiful watch
In future the next generation of watch makers will learn their trade on servicing these watches.
I own this 40mm, Plan B, Saphire watch. My only complaint is the minute hand not reaching the minute markers. Seems like a design flaw on this version, as the minute hand normally reaches all the way out to the case, on all other versions.
It looks like they just used the same parts just with a larger dial for the larger case. If it was perhaps made in a different country of origin, I would safely bet that the hands would also be changed to work with the larger diameter.
very nice video, i also own Pagani design watch same quality but rolex model it cost me 60 euro , awsome quality, you can check brass watch actually they have almost same model but cost around 60 euro
Thank you 🙂
They keep great time, mine is +2s per day. Incredible for the money.
What is the lug to lug?
46mm
Thank you. I like the video and I subscribed.
Thanks!
Can someone help me with a link to this watch? I saw so many similar watches listed at so many places at very different price points. I am not able to figure out a genuine version.
This is a good place to start (but see also the link in the description of the video)
seagull1963.com/
Where os the besy place to buy one in the uk
I’d ask around locally, perhaps watch groups online? They know Seagull1963 have a warehouse in mainland Europe
does the watch last or breaks easily ?
Not if you look after it 😊
where have you seen this in 40mm with acrylic?
AliExpress
Oh wow, your minute hand is shorter than mine.,!85 other than that. It’s exactly the same.
Is there good versions and bad dodgy versions of this watch or should I just go ahead and order it from any aliexpress seller?
I ordered from “GIV Official Store” if that helps 👍
They could improve on the finish quality, but for 200-300 usd it’s definitely worth the money
Is all that dust on the movement or the case back?
There is dust in there for sure, but some of the rougher polishing may appear like dust
Is it working accurately?. Thaks.
Yes, so far. Since it needs winding anyway regularly it’s an easy adjustment should that change
Hey is this watch still working
Yup 👍🏻
nice done and all sayd.
Thanks, appreciate it 🙂
Where do you bough your strap?
Link in the description of the video 👍
Esbjorn, I have a mate in NSW who has a Norwegian name, Trygve. Hälsningar från Sverige.
Ok, jag hälsar till Trygve 😉
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews Ska göra, tackar.
Do the dials glow in the dark?
No they do not. You can buy one with lume pips at the hour markers but all reports say they're quite weak. Thanks for your comment.
Where can i buy one ?
There are a few options, but online only. Try AliExpress
Yes, I'd just get a new one, but still save the original.
Costs less than the first hour's depreciation on a new Swiss chronograph.
True that 👍🏻
Like to get one....bit nervous about all the fakes i been hearing about...any bullet proof sellers out there?
Don’t worry, most of the ‘fakes’ use the same movement but you can also buy from the original factory directly. Have a read of the article I put in the description, it will help you 👍
This watch got my attention a while ago... As someone that has to save up to get one 200€ watch, its a tough choice. I have heard for the service expenses and its the only deal breaker for me. So how long until it needs one? Also i found it on several retailers on Chrono24 and prices vary a lot, (i can get it from Germany at 260$ plus shipping or 200$ from Hong Kong with free shipping) and that has me worried... With Seiko/Orient watches, prices are relatively close unless they are second hand watches... Can anyone provide me with answers?
Have a look at the article in the description of the video, it’s really interesting. The AliExpress ones look identical, have the same movement and are a great choice on a budget. I’d google the movement and see what peoples experiences are with needing service. Three to five years shouldn’t be a problem. Even micro brand Baltic used the same movement in some of their watches. Good luck 🙂
Nice
I bought mine with lume. It's not impressive so don't have too many regrets. The value for money in this watch makes it an UFO in watches world.
Totally agree 👍
Are you referring to the lume? I was considering the same 40mm lume option over the classic one. Is it good or is it going to die of after a minute in a dark room?
@@dimitrisoikonomou3568 the lume is quite poor don't buy for it but it last a bit
Its a nice replica, but its not a genuine Sea-Gull watch, sadly. Sea-Gull don't do transparent backs on their watches for the 1963 line - never have done, they're always engraved and highly polished casebacks. Any watch that is the genuine article will have a proper engraved back with the appropriate SeaGull branding. In addition, your 1963 is missing the 'China' marking which sits above the "Tianjin Watch Factory' marking on the main dial. Unfortunately there are far too many who produce these watches with these (glaring if you know) mistakes - it may have a genuine ST19 movement in it which are easy to get a hold of, but sadly, this isn't an authentic Sea-Gull.
Most people really need to do their homework or have a line into someone who can source them direct from Tianjin.......if you're fortunate, you'll have both :D
I reference a nice article in the description and mention the authenticity issue in the video 👍🏻
Thanks for your comment. I mention the authenticity issue in the video and also added a nice article in the description, worth a look.
I disagree with the lume comment, despite its benefits, I think it ruins the asthetic
Do you have lume on yours?
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews No, I was looking at reviews and while it obviously still has the unique champagne dial, the lume makes it look a lot more modern and more similar to other watches so it looses some of the time period asthetic (in my opinion).
However, I also bought the Sugess chronograph which does have lume and looks excellent as it's not supposed to be a period piece.
For me, I would have it repaired.