Excellent video! I've been reading and watching a lot of GPU and eGPU tests lately and they all more or less say the same thing. This video really addresses some of the unmentioned limitations. I'd be curious as to how much of a speed boost one could get by adding an exterior fan to the bottom of the laptop.
I've been watching your old videos lately, and I really like both your reviews and the more educational content like this one. Keep up the great work! You've earned a new subscriber. :)
Short answer, you need both for video editing. It also happens to be one of the few computer applications where having heaps of ram is actually useful haha
So, the CPU is like a Thinker, and GPU is like an Artist. Thinker can arrange task to the best person like Artist to finish an art. Thinker can do the art themselves, but only by trying so hard with a lot of time to finish the same task. But GPU can do it in faster time. GPU/Artist can't do or start the task without the order from CPU. that means GPU will always need CPU, but CPU will need GPU for more efficient working process.
My gpu is not picking up any of the load during editing or playback. But my CPU is maxed out. I have an rtx2080. I also have the settings set to use GPU for rendering and playback. I have the latest version of premiere pro and Nvidia drivers. Why is my gpu not picking up the load?
I would dig into some forms and see if they have any other trouble shoot suggestions. Without being able to look at your system I would only be taking shots in the dark. Sorry mate.
Make sure to download a studio driver for your computer/laptop. I bought an extremely powerful gaming laptop Acer Predator Helios 500 AMD ryzen 7 and RX Vega 56 but was wondering why the GPU wasn't picking up the weight. So once I downloaded studio driver instead of the gaming driver, it drastically helped configure my performance
Thanks Ben for the informative video! I am getting a Dell XPS 17, i7-10750H, 16gb RAM, 1TB SSD, and GTX1650 Ti. I will be mainly doing 4K video editing of around 10 to 15 min in Davinci Resolve. Is this combo good enough in terms of playback smoothness and export time? Thanks a lot.
Better CPU or better cooling system? The next video should be a list of recommended CPU and GPU combinations for best performance by model number. P.S. When doing playback tests in Premiere Pro it is better to turn on the "Dropped Frame Indicator".
Conducting the same sort of tests with Vegas Pro and DaVinci Resolve would be invaluable. It would also be helpful to know what type of file you are editing too. A tiff sequence is going to behave quite differently to a 100Mbps H.265 file straight out of a camera.
Great video. Now that you defined the borders and opened the discussion, would you recommend any one of the new NVIDIA GPUs (RTX 3070, 3080, ...)? My assumption would be the CPU is already high performance enough (like Intel i7-9900K 5Ghz) and edition is performing on RTX 20 series (Like 2070 Super).
3070if tight budget although still expensive. 3080 if you have more dime to spare. the higher the better perfomance and yet check compatiiblity of mob and match cpu balance
In your personal opinion, do you think that the Ryzen 3900x CPU will pair well with the GEFORCE RTX 3070 for solid playback speeds? Also, do you think I would be better off with liquid cooling (kraken x63) vs. air cooling (Noctua NH-D15) to get the most performance out of my CPU with overclocking? I'm about to build my first PC and wish to have the best experience while editing footage in premier pro, so the last thing I want to do is drop $2000 on a new build and experience the same aches and pains I have right now with my 2014 Macbook Pro. It is beyond aggravating to see choppy playback when editing footage, so I would preferably like to eliminate this at all costs.
This video's awesome. I'm curious how which combinations work best. How a 4800 might work with a 2080 and in contrast 2060 or how a 10750 works with a 2080. Topping it off what about external coolers, do they help?
Personally I think the Ryzen 7 4800H is well suited for video editing with the GTX1660Ti, but if you are doing A LOT of motion graphics then you might benefit from the 2060 or 2070. Same with the i7-10750H. :)
Hey Ben! Thanks for the informative video. I am still confused though. I have a desktop PC with GTX 1060 6 GB graphics card and. Intel i5 7400 (7th gen, 4 cores, 6 mb cache) processor and 500 watts supply power. I am an industrial product designer, from time to time I do 3D modelling and rendering, but most of the time photo editing, video editing and audio post-production I make for my projects. Ever sinCe I bought my pc, I've dreamed of upgrading the parts of it to the fullest potential the current motherboard allows. Right now I think of investing to i7 7700K CPU, and also a CPU cooler. I checked the bottlebeck issue and it seems 'the graphics card is too weak for the 7700K.' Right now my build works pretty balanced, during processor intensive tasks my processor and gpu works together with only %8 performance difference from maximum. Do you think it is a worth investment to do or maybe I better expand my RAM capacity and get a m2.nvMe SSD, in the future when I have the money upgrade my system entirely... (I have micro ATX case) Which plan makes more sense? Thanks for your time.
I understand the basics of CPUs: i7 is the best (aside from i9 maybe), H suffix is better, more GHZ is better, intel 10th gen and Ryzen 3rd gen is most current. But what about GPUs? Any good resources on the GPUs available and what's best?
Hello can you please answer this question asap. You know the MSI gf65 thin review you did 6 months ago, can you please tell me the screen response time for the 120hz refresh rate?
So my PC has started freaking out while video editing, importing clips into software is slower than usual, sometimes while the software is open windows wont play videos, I get black screen, is this a GPU issue ? Or CPU ... videos on the web will also flicker unless they are full screen :(
when it comes to the render nothing beats multiple gpus for heavy work loads. I would rather have 6x 3080s on a mining board with a core i5 then a couple 3080s with a 32 core and a 1500 dollar motherboard anyday. It wasnt untill I had 48 gigs of gpu did davinci stop booting me out or resetting
Just purely looking at smooth playback (i don't care much about rendering time as i can just leave it and move on to work on another computer), would you buy a laptop with stronger GPU or stronger CPU? I got offer of i5 10300H + RTX3060 and R5 5600H cpu + RTX3050ti around same budget price point.
Which would you choose for Premiere Pro and After Effects I5 11600k I7 11700k I9 11900k I7 10700k Nvidia RTX 3070 Nvidia RTX 3080 Kingston or Corsair brand 32 or 64 GB 2666 2933 3200 mhz which mhz? Thanks
Hi Ben I am looking for a laptop purely for editing mostly 4k clips 10-15min long. I am confused between Dell xps15 9570 , i7 9750H ,16gb ddr4 ram , Gtx 1650 4gb Lenovo legion y740 , i7 9750H , 32 gb ddr4 and rtc 2060 6gb ddr6 Which one is better in your opinion ..Hope you will reply 🙂
hi thanks for the video If you had to choose between a ryzen 5 3600xt with a gtx 1660 super or a ryzen 7 3700x with a gtx 1650, which one would you choose?
Ok so I have 1,000 to spend on the pc... and am going to be focusing on content creation but will also be gaming... So what gpu and cpu would you recommend.
While rendering, at a point after the 100% of CPU usage, it grabbed another 20% from the gpu i.e. the rtx 2070.Now if the rtx 2070 max q is replaced by 1660 ti, how much % gpu increase is expected. Will that be enough to get the editing done at a similar time.
Ben, I've got Lenovo Legion Y540 with i7 9750 H, and dedicated GTX 1650. How good it will perform with daVinci Resolve and Premiere Pro. Would it be better than same CPU configuration but GTX 1080?
@@BenGKaiser sorry one last question where did U get the Asus software neede off the Asus website you typed the model name? And which drivers do I need to get when I get my laptop? Thank you so much in advance love your videos ;)
Is the 4k playback only trash when editing? I Just want to save some 4k videos on my laptop and watch them. Does gpu matter in this scenario or us the cpu enough?
Or maybe, if you would like to video editing and rendering on a laptop, you need to buy a high-end laptop with top cooling performance and not that fancy sh*tcakes... If you have a laptop with high performance cooling ( like in many gaming laptops) you can forget the thermal throttling... :)
that laptop on the edge is giving me brain damage pls put ur stuff in a secure place
I've been editing my videos with an integrated GPU via AMD for so long, I can't wait to upgrade to a dedicated GPU. Like, really excited.
Excellent video! I've been reading and watching a lot of GPU and eGPU tests lately and they all more or less say the same thing. This video really addresses some of the unmentioned limitations. I'd be curious as to how much of a speed boost one could get by adding an exterior fan to the bottom of the laptop.
I've been watching your old videos lately, and I really like both your reviews and the more educational content like this one. Keep up the great work! You've earned a new subscriber. :)
So stoked that I have been bring out content that is helpful to you in both categories.
Thanks for the video. It is very informative and explains well why there should be a right balance between picking a gpu and cpu.
You have made everything absolutely clear. Thanks a lot bro
Short answer, you need both for video editing. It also happens to be one of the few computer applications where having heaps of ram is actually useful haha
Yes indeed!
thanks bro ur channel is very different & interesting,i just discovered it a week back, now I binge watched,it's very helpful.
A fanboy from India.
So, the CPU is like a Thinker, and GPU is like an Artist.
Thinker can arrange task to the best person like Artist to finish an art. Thinker can do the art themselves, but only by trying so hard with a lot of time to finish the same task. But GPU can do it in faster time. GPU/Artist can't do or start the task without the order from CPU. that means GPU will always need CPU, but CPU will need GPU for more efficient working process.
Thanks so much Ben, very helpful as always.
Glad to hear that it was helpful!
Great work ,very much useful
Love from INDIA
My gpu is not picking up any of the load during editing or playback. But my CPU is maxed out. I have an rtx2080. I also have the settings set to use GPU for rendering and playback. I have the latest version of premiere pro and Nvidia drivers. Why is my gpu not picking up the load?
I would dig into some forms and see if they have any other trouble shoot suggestions. Without being able to look at your system I would only be taking shots in the dark. Sorry mate.
Make sure to download a studio driver for your computer/laptop. I bought an extremely powerful gaming laptop Acer Predator Helios 500 AMD ryzen 7 and RX Vega 56 but was wondering why the GPU wasn't picking up the weight. So once I downloaded studio driver instead of the gaming driver, it drastically helped configure my performance
Thanks Ben for the informative video! I am getting a Dell XPS 17, i7-10750H, 16gb RAM, 1TB SSD, and GTX1650 Ti. I will be mainly doing 4K video editing of around 10 to 15 min in Davinci Resolve. Is this combo good enough in terms of playback smoothness and export time? Thanks a lot.
Should have good playback and good export times. Note that DaVinci Resolve export times are slower than Premiere Pro.
@@BenGKaiser Thanks Ben G, have a good day 😊
I really wanted this info, thank you
I Needed this video so bad Thanks
One of the clearest, idiot- friendly explanations I've ever seen. Thank you!!
I am telling you guys that, this guy can read mind❤️
Haha, I am glad you found the content helpful.
This has been very helpful. Thanks.
Your way of talking is wonderful
Love you from Egypt ❤️❤️
Better CPU or better cooling system? The next video should be a list of recommended CPU and GPU combinations for best performance by model number.
P.S. When doing playback tests in Premiere Pro it is better to turn on the "Dropped Frame Indicator".
Thanks for the recommendations. I will definitely be working on this video. :)
Conducting the same sort of tests with Vegas Pro and DaVinci Resolve would be invaluable. It would also be helpful to know what type of file you are editing too. A tiff sequence is going to behave quite differently to a 100Mbps H.265 file straight out of a camera.
Agreed, seeing how resolve compares on a 4800 or 10750 and 10875 would be interesting.
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback yall! I will see what I can do in the next few weeks. :)
Good job bro thx 👏🏻
Bro this video is amazing thank you so much I learned a lot!
Man, I am so glad this helped you so much!
thank you for this 🙏
Great video. Now that you defined the borders and opened the discussion, would you recommend any one of the new NVIDIA GPUs (RTX 3070, 3080, ...)? My assumption would be the CPU is already high performance enough (like Intel i7-9900K 5Ghz) and edition is performing on RTX 20 series (Like 2070 Super).
3070if tight budget although still expensive. 3080 if you have more dime to spare.
the higher the better perfomance and yet check compatiiblity of mob and match cpu balance
Awesome explanation Ben, definitely clarifies the video specifics around cpu/gpu tradeoff, thanks a lot!
So glad you found this helpful!
So I'm stuck on 2 options.
Tuf 15 with Ryzen 7 4800h, gtx 1650 ti......or...... msi gs66 i7 10750H, Rtx 2060 both with same ram, screen, ssd
Personally I would choose the MSI GS66 due to better build quality.
Uffff amigo gracias. ill make a monster in your honor lol. I'll get the 5900amd what GPU cost-benefit you will recommend me hi from Tijuana 🇲🇽 Mexico
In your personal opinion, do you think that the Ryzen 3900x CPU will pair well with the GEFORCE RTX 3070 for solid playback speeds? Also, do you think I would be better off with liquid cooling (kraken x63) vs. air cooling (Noctua NH-D15) to get the most performance out of my CPU with overclocking?
I'm about to build my first PC and wish to have the best experience while editing footage in premier pro, so the last thing I want to do is drop $2000 on a new build and experience the same aches and pains I have right now with my 2014 Macbook Pro. It is beyond aggravating to see choppy playback when editing footage, so I would preferably like to eliminate this at all costs.
This video's awesome. I'm curious how which combinations work best. How a 4800 might work with a 2080 and in contrast 2060 or how a 10750 works with a 2080. Topping it off what about external coolers, do they help?
Personally I think the Ryzen 7 4800H is well suited for video editing with the GTX1660Ti, but if you are doing A LOT of motion graphics then you might benefit from the 2060 or 2070. Same with the i7-10750H. :)
Hey Ben! Thanks for the informative video. I am still confused though. I have a desktop PC with GTX 1060 6 GB graphics card and. Intel i5 7400 (7th gen, 4 cores, 6 mb cache) processor and 500 watts supply power. I am an industrial product designer, from time to time I do 3D modelling and rendering, but most of the time photo editing, video editing and audio post-production I make for my projects. Ever sinCe I bought my pc, I've dreamed of upgrading the parts of it to the fullest potential the current motherboard allows. Right now I think of investing to i7 7700K CPU, and also a CPU cooler. I checked the bottlebeck issue and it seems 'the graphics card is too weak for the 7700K.' Right now my build works pretty balanced, during processor intensive tasks my processor and gpu works together with only %8 performance difference from maximum. Do you think it is a worth investment to do or maybe I better expand my RAM capacity and get a m2.nvMe SSD, in the future when I have the money upgrade my system entirely... (I have micro ATX case) Which plan makes more sense? Thanks for your time.
great video, very informative for me, thanks👍😀✌️
I understand the basics of CPUs: i7 is the best (aside from i9 maybe), H suffix is better, more GHZ is better, intel 10th gen and Ryzen 3rd gen is most current. But what about GPUs? Any good resources on the GPUs available and what's best?
I am making more content for GPUs that is coming out over the next few weeks. Keep an eye on the channel for it. Subscribe and ring that bell. ;)
Productive You Intel is a no no for video editing in my country
Hey Ben. You have a lovely home. Thanks for the lovely review. If you can, please take a look at the HP Spectre x360 15t-eb000
Hello can you please answer this question asap. You know the MSI gf65 thin review you did 6 months ago, can you please tell me the screen response time for the 120hz refresh rate?
Yes, the screen has a 120Hz refresh rate.
So my PC has started freaking out while video editing, importing clips into software is slower than usual, sometimes while the software is open windows wont play videos, I get black screen, is this a GPU issue ? Or CPU ... videos on the web will also flicker unless they are full screen :(
Would be interested to see if a Precision 7500 series or Think P series would thermal throttle less?
Ben G Kaiser can you do my 2laptop recomandations witch laptop would be nice in video editing? I can send you 2laptops
when it comes to the render nothing beats multiple gpus for heavy work loads. I would rather have 6x 3080s on a mining board with a core i5 then a couple 3080s with a 32 core and a 1500 dollar motherboard anyday. It wasnt untill I had 48 gigs of gpu did davinci stop booting me out or resetting
Great video, keep it up :)
Thanks, will do!
So only having an integrated graphics card is a lost cause no matter how high quality the CPU is?
It will definitely struggle.
Just purely looking at smooth playback (i don't care much about rendering time as i can just leave it and move on to work on another computer), would you buy a laptop with stronger GPU or stronger CPU? I got offer of i5 10300H + RTX3060 and R5 5600H cpu + RTX3050ti around same budget price point.
Which would you choose for Premiere Pro and After Effects
I5 11600k
I7 11700k
I9 11900k
I7 10700k
Nvidia RTX 3070
Nvidia RTX 3080
Kingston or Corsair brand
32 or 64 GB
2666 2933 3200 mhz which mhz?
Thanks
how do I find out this CPU matches the GPU. like how should look at the performance
how do i check this 2 work well together while buying laptop ???
Hello hope you can find this and help answer my question. Do i require a graphics card when changing video format say mp4 to mkv or is it all cpu?
Hi Ben I am looking for a laptop purely for editing mostly 4k clips 10-15min long. I am confused between
Dell xps15 9570 , i7 9750H ,16gb ddr4 ram , Gtx 1650 4gb
Lenovo legion y740 , i7 9750H , 32 gb ddr4 and rtc 2060 6gb ddr6
Which one is better in your opinion ..Hope you will reply 🙂
in my opinion i'm gonna pick legion y740 for long term use.
If you want color accuracy get the Dell XPS 15, but if you do not care then get the Lenovo Y740. :)
@@BenGKaiserthanks man 👍
hi thanks for the video If you had to choose between a ryzen 5 3600xt with a gtx 1660 super or a ryzen 7 3700x with a gtx 1650, which one would you choose?
Ryzen 5 and 1660
Sir can you give link for wallpaper used on dell XPS?
I need your help. To chose laptop.
Is i5 9300h + GTX 1660 ti good?
Yeah, great combo!
Ok so I have 1,000 to spend on the pc... and am going to be focusing on content creation but will also be gaming... So what gpu and cpu would you recommend.
While rendering, at a point after the 100% of CPU usage, it grabbed another 20% from the gpu i.e. the rtx 2070.Now if the rtx 2070 max q is replaced by 1660 ti, how much % gpu increase is expected. Will that be enough to get the editing done at a similar time.
Yeah, I am running a GTX 1660 Ti in my editing RIG and it works great. :)
Can I buy GTX 1650 for my i7 3770 ?
Ben, I've got Lenovo Legion Y540 with i7 9750 H, and dedicated GTX 1650. How good it will perform with daVinci Resolve and Premiere Pro. Would it be better than same CPU configuration but GTX 1080?
That is a great setup. However, if you are comparing the two, the GTX 1080 is FAR MORE powerful. ;)
Thanks
Use screen recorder for laptop bro..
4 core cpu + Rtx 3060 OR 6 core cpu + Gtx 1650?
You guys recommend the Asus ROG strix G for productivity and other simple tasks like web development?
Yeah, it would handle those tasks with ease.
@@BenGKaiser thank you for your reply I heard there was an issue with the RGB lighting is it true have u had any complication ?
I have had heard this, but I have not personally encountered it.
@@BenGKaiser sorry one last question where did U get the Asus software neede off the Asus website you typed the model name? And which drivers do I need to get when I get my laptop? Thank you so much in advance love your videos ;)
Im going to buy Lenovo Legion 4800h +gtx 1650 16 ram! is it enough for light video editing ? and om going to use paid davinci resolve?
Yes, that will work well.
So ryzen with 1660ti or i7 with 2060
Is i5 8300h with rtx 2060 good?
Will I have bottleneck issues with an i7 10875H paired with a Quadro RTX 3000? Is this CPU too fast for the GPU, when it comes to video editing?
No, that shoulld be very suitable.
Ben G Kaiser 🙏🏽
Sad my laptop is so old. I rendered a 2 min 4k video without any effects and it took me 27 min.🤣 I need a new laptop for video editing 🙊🙈🙉
Is the 4k playback only trash when editing? I Just want to save some 4k videos on my laptop and watch them. Does gpu matter in this scenario or us the cpu enough?
Ryzen 5 3600 + 1660 super
Ryzen 7 2700 + Rtx2060
What should i use for streaming and editting? Note: ryzen 7 2700 is cheaper in my area
I'd do the 2700 with the RTX 2060.
@@BenGKaiser is the 2700x worth it which is more expensive by about $40 than 2700? Should I get 2700x instead?
Nah, it is only about 8% better concerning the effective speed of the CPU.
downclock is basically because of avx.
Or maybe, if you would like to video editing and rendering on a laptop, you need to buy a high-end laptop with top cooling performance and not that fancy sh*tcakes...
If you have a laptop with high performance cooling ( like in many gaming laptops) you can forget the thermal throttling... :)
use a mic
Does this video apply to PCs? I don't really care about laptops for heavy editing.
So I need a "Yoked" computer..... i'll go tell the Geek Squad for a YOKED computer! lol
gpu is always faster
this guy talks like Marty McFly
2nd
Sorry i posted a comment not for you!