@@BenGKaiser Also the 3080 in laptops exist in both 8GB and 16GB variants. While the desktop 3080 has 10GB VRAM and 42% more cores. Talk about confusing for the average laptop buyer...
@@bryanbarajasBB I believe there are at least: MSI GE66/GE76 MSI Creator 15 MSI GS66 ASUS Scar 15/17 ASUS Zephyrus Duo 15 Alienware m17 r4 Razer Blade 15 advanced OLED
Thanks for the video man, I really think topics like this one get overlooked so the fact that you are taking your time to explain all of it is really appreciated
@@BenGKaiser Ben, thank you for the video. When using for example a 10900K with a GTX 1660, is the IGPU used? I mean, do both GPU work together? If that is not the case, isn’t more convenient to buy the F version, without IGPU, which is cheaper? And what about the unlocking quality of the K version? Are your tests based on the minimum or maximum clock frequency?
Hey @BenGKaiser so there’s one thing I’ve been wondering about on this topic and cannot find a clear answer at least here on TH-cam. For integrated graphics, what if you upgraded your system ram to say 32gb or even more. Wouldn’t that allow the integrated card to use that extra RAM, effectively giving it more RAM to work with, than a dedicated say 6gb of video ram? In other words, the 6gb dedicated card is limited at 6gb, but if you put more RAM in your system, the integrated card can have more than 6gb of Ram available to use. Not sure how you could verify or test this but in theory what do you think?
Thanks for the video comparison, I am using Adobe Premier Elements for editing small videos on an integrated system and it seems to work fine, I was contemplated a laptop with dedicated GPU but it is really not necessary now, this will save me some money when buying my next laptop. thank you.
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whats ur laptop? thats awesome cuz im also finding one without a dgpu
@ Dell Laptop, 8.00 GB (7.88 GB usable), Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8265U CPU @ 1.60GHz 1.80 GHz. 224GB SSDrive. I would recommend a larger drive, if your editing a lot of videos it will get full very fast.
Many thanks. The best explanation I have come across on this topic. I have gone through a couple of videos by the way. Now to understand the generations of GPUs and specifications.
Want to buy a mini-pc with Iris graphics but I must do simple video editing (trimming videos and inserting clips) with cyberlink Power Director. Can this be done with an integrated video?
My choice too. Still saving up but it's in my cart ready to go. I wanted to build a pc but it's impractical atm. Need an editor and the Creator 15 seems to be the best for the bucks.
@@madmakes7993 Just arrived today. Already in love with it. I'm glad MSI went with upward facing speakers on this. They sound better than any MSI I've owned before. 4k screen is magnificent, and everything runs buttery smooth. Only complaints so far are the tiny keys on the left side of the keyboard...tab, ctrl, etc., and my right hand tends to rest on the trackpad when I'm typing. I put in 32GB RAM and a secondary 2TB HD, though...So that's fun. Voided the warranty right out of the box. Haha. Right now I'm getting rid of all the bloatware that came installed. Norton...in 2021?
Has anyone tried to benchmark the required time to render a 10-Min 4k Video by a shared intel Graphics iris x GPU i7 13th Gen 16 Ram 512 Pcle hard laptop? Vs the time of a laptop with same specs but with dedicated 2-4 dedicated GPU? Is shared GPU Upgradable? How about thermal efficiency؟ Any better recommendations to render a 4k ten Min. Video in 15-20 Minutes?Can my asus be used in sharing & mirroring with old iphones?
In the future can you run tests on Topaz Labs software? As someone with photography as a hobby, LR/photoshop is not the limiting factor on my choice of laptops and gpus. Denoise AI, Sharpen AI, and Gigapixel AI are what is forcing me to upgrade my laptop... Though I would love to buy HP Spectre I may need to buy a full fledged gaming laptop with RTX 3070 and I don’t even play games...
Is it wise to buy a 10th gen Intel gaming processor (they are in sale right now) or should I wait for the 11th gen H processors? I will be using it for university and student-level architecture.
do u think i run adobe premior pro and davinchi in my laptop 11th gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 @2.40GHz @.42Ghz , 8 gb ram , system type 64-bit operating system ,x64-based processor and is there any dis advantages ??
does my computer always automatically uses dedicated graphic card (NVIDIA) to do render and games or will it be using integrated graphic cards (Intel)? and do I need to manually set what to use?
If that playback is without any proxies I'm not suprised at that high amount of dropped frames. I get dropped frames on my 5700XT with both 2-4k playback in premiere pro without proxies. Its so bad i'd say its actually unusable.
Look up component- usually not the right term and even system is a component. Parts segments sectors Executive Judicial Legislative. So many partitions. Words should be scripted and chosen carefully. Even you are apologizing, critique or revision? Are you dedicated, Are you integrated. Or are we aggregated. Don't get m e sacred with IO. I do owe so off to work we all go. In ngeneral Ben you can do this all over in half the time, and you should. It becomes dated... Did you "see back" your graphic at 7:50 for Playback, the grammar, "Watching back the edited footage..." or "When exporting out of the video editing software". does the term 'exporting' a static verb, need a directon of out, could it be into ? So many choices when being a writer/publisher.
Ben G K can u make a video on Dedicated vs Externally connected GPU. That'd be awesome. I think because whenever we decide to buy a laptop we only think of portable ones and are not usually attracted with heavy machines. Buying a laptop with better external gpu connections we can harness processing power when we need it on desk(can also connect external monitor). While we can take just the portable laptop on the go. The portable laptop should also have some useful gpu that can give a lil juice. While only on desk to desk travel can carry an external gpu, which will separate the bulk and heat away from the laptop. Can anyone humor me on this?
The specs for the RTX 3060 you shown are those of the desktop version. The laptop version has a bit more cores (3840) but only half the VRAM (6 GB).
Ah, you're correct, that is the desktop. Thanks for catching this. I will pin your comment for clarity.
@@BenGKaiser Also the 3080 in laptops exist in both 8GB and 16GB variants. While the desktop 3080 has 10GB VRAM and 42% more cores. Talk about confusing for the average laptop buyer...
@@Pamani_ Which laptops have the Nvidia RTX 3080 Gddr 16?
@@bryanbarajasBB I believe there are at least:
MSI GE66/GE76
MSI Creator 15
MSI GS66
ASUS Scar 15/17
ASUS Zephyrus Duo 15
Alienware m17 r4
Razer Blade 15 advanced OLED
@@Pamani_ I'm considering MSI 15.6" GE Series GE66 Raider Gaming Laptop, but I'll see the others for that one on BandH has 6gddr.
Thanks for the video man, I really think topics like this one get overlooked so the fact that you are taking your time to explain all of it is really appreciated
So glad you enjoyed it and found it so helpful!
@@BenGKaiser Ben, thank you for the video. When using for example a 10900K with a GTX 1660, is the IGPU used? I mean, do both GPU work together?
If that is not the case, isn’t more convenient to buy the F version, without IGPU, which is cheaper?
And what about the unlocking quality of the K version? Are your tests based on the minimum or maximum clock frequency?
Hey @BenGKaiser so there’s one thing I’ve been wondering about on this topic and cannot find a clear answer at least here on TH-cam.
For integrated graphics, what if you upgraded your system ram to say 32gb or even more. Wouldn’t that allow the integrated card to use that extra RAM, effectively giving it more RAM to work with, than a dedicated say 6gb of video ram?
In other words, the 6gb dedicated card is limited at 6gb, but if you put more RAM in your system, the integrated card can have more than 6gb of Ram available to use.
Not sure how you could verify or test this but in theory what do you think?
Thanks for the video comparison, I am using Adobe Premier Elements for editing small videos on an integrated system and it seems to work fine, I was contemplated a laptop with dedicated GPU but it is really not necessary now, this will save me some money when buying my next laptop. thank you.
whats ur laptop? thats awesome cuz im also finding one without a dgpu
@ Dell Laptop, 8.00 GB (7.88 GB usable), Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8265U CPU @ 1.60GHz 1.80 GHz. 224GB SSDrive. I would recommend a larger drive, if your editing a lot of videos it will get full very fast.
Many thanks. The best explanation I have come across on this topic. I have gone through a couple of videos by the way. Now to understand the generations of GPUs and specifications.
Want to buy a mini-pc with Iris graphics but I must do simple video editing (trimming videos and inserting clips) with cyberlink Power Director. Can this be done with an integrated video?
can I do motion design and animation on an integrated intel iris xe graphics card
Just bought the Creator 15 with the RTX 3070. Can’t wait for it to arrive.
My choice too. Still saving up but it's in my cart ready to go. I wanted to build a pc but it's impractical atm. Need an editor and the Creator 15 seems to be the best for the bucks.
@@madmakes7993 I hated to buy it so soon, but my wife said "Just get it before it costs more than last year's model." I couldn't argue with that. Haha
That's awesome! I hope you love it!
@@madmakes7993 Just arrived today. Already in love with it. I'm glad MSI went with upward facing speakers on this. They sound better than any MSI I've owned before. 4k screen is magnificent, and everything runs buttery smooth. Only complaints so far are the tiny keys on the left side of the keyboard...tab, ctrl, etc., and my right hand tends to rest on the trackpad when I'm typing. I put in 32GB RAM and a secondary 2TB HD, though...So that's fun. Voided the warranty right out of the box. Haha. Right now I'm getting rid of all the bloatware that came installed. Norton...in 2021?
Has anyone tried to benchmark the required time to render a 10-Min 4k Video by a shared intel Graphics iris x GPU i7 13th Gen 16 Ram 512 Pcle hard laptop? Vs the time of a laptop with same specs but with dedicated 2-4 dedicated GPU? Is shared GPU Upgradable? How about thermal efficiency؟ Any better recommendations to render a 4k ten Min. Video in 15-20 Minutes?Can my asus be used in sharing & mirroring with old iphones?
For demanding video editing, do you thing an amd radeon 780 would do as well as a Nvidia trx 3050 ?
Once upon a time the cpu and gpu lived in harmony together... But one day, the Voodos attacked.
In the future can you run tests on Topaz Labs software? As someone with photography as a hobby, LR/photoshop is not the limiting factor on my choice of laptops and gpus. Denoise AI, Sharpen AI, and Gigapixel AI are what is forcing me to upgrade my laptop... Though I would love to buy HP Spectre I may need to buy a full fledged gaming laptop with RTX 3070 and I don’t even play games...
Is it wise to buy a 10th gen Intel gaming processor (they are in sale right now) or should I wait for the 11th gen H processors? I will be using it for university and student-level architecture.
Well said about to buy mine for my channel
do u think i run adobe premior pro and davinchi in my laptop 11th gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 @2.40GHz @.42Ghz , 8 gb ram , system type 64-bit operating system ,x64-based processor and is there any dis advantages ??
I think you need GPU and more ram for It to be smooth at least
If my software isn't compatible with my gpu is there any benefit to having the gpu or does it do nothing buy draw power?
If it's not performing any tasks, it's probably not drawing much power at all.
I don't understand what should i buy
So, I can use a 2 gig GPU for 1080p on Filmora X. I MAY can get away with an integrated graphics card! Right? :-)
The best explanation...
Thanks!!!
Would it be ok to use a 16gb ram laptop with Intel xe graphics if I work with proxies?
Please did you get an Answer to this
does my computer always automatically uses dedicated graphic card (NVIDIA) to do render and games or will it be using integrated graphic cards (Intel)? and do I need to manually set what to use?
the moon does it
If that playback is without any proxies I'm not suprised at that high amount of dropped frames. I get dropped frames on my 5700XT with both 2-4k playback in premiere pro without proxies. Its so bad i'd say its actually unusable.
Thanks buddy
Love the clear and concise powerpoints
nice
Real beast
Thanks, Nikola!
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Look up component- usually not the right term and even system is a component. Parts segments sectors Executive Judicial Legislative. So many partitions. Words should be scripted and chosen carefully. Even you are apologizing, critique or revision? Are you dedicated, Are you integrated. Or are we aggregated. Don't get m e sacred with IO. I do owe so off to work we all go. In ngeneral Ben you can do this all over in half the time, and you should. It becomes dated... Did you "see back" your graphic at 7:50 for Playback, the grammar, "Watching back the edited footage..." or "When exporting out of the video editing software". does the term 'exporting' a static verb, need a directon of out, could it be into ? So many choices when being a writer/publisher.
Entire component?!
I came here for some charts but only found commentary.
Ben G K can u make a video on Dedicated vs Externally connected GPU. That'd be awesome.
I think because whenever we decide to buy a laptop we only think of portable ones and are not usually attracted with heavy machines. Buying a laptop with better external gpu connections we can harness processing power when we need it on desk(can also connect external monitor). While we can take just the portable laptop on the go. The portable laptop should also have some useful gpu that can give a lil juice. While only on desk to desk travel can carry an external gpu, which will separate the bulk and heat away from the laptop. Can anyone humor me on this?
Thanks for the suggestion, I will have to look into this.
@@BenGKaiser Yes as per u see fit its just an idea
Great explanation. But wont help my budget.