I would love to see more Peplink content. Setup, and maybe use cases. I’ve considered them, but haven’t pulled the trigger. This video helped to push me.
So cool.. I have to say my last cruise on RC had incredible uptime internet vs years past, you could tell that Starlink was a game changer and I assume they had a hardcore bonded peplink somewhere. Considering it was the biggest cruise ship in the fleet or ever it handled a lot of connections.
you can do the same with openmptcprouter. you can host the sever any where (vps, at home, ...) so just host the server where you get access to what you need.
For $299 B-one, it is $20 per 500GB data through Peplink's speedfusion cloud. (B-one is having $50 discount on Amazon right now.) You can set configuration setting so that only critical traffic uses speedfusion cloud. For example, youtube or netflix watching may not need it because it has good buffering. But Zoom call will need it.
I've had less trouble setting up a Peplink router than my old TP Link one. A bit pricey but it really can be a super solid set it and forget it type of thing.
I use to load balance two 3Mbps DSL lines not too long ago and only worked well for certain tasks. This is way different tech and is quite interesting.
I would highly recommend anyone on a budget look into building your own Speedify appliance. Ticks all of the boxes, but much cheaper if you're willing to build it yourself.
Please do a follow up video on the complete setup. What is the best configuration for a RVing remote worker that is dependent on a corporate VPN for live streaming? Maybe use home fiber or data center second router for SpeedFusion internet access?
Bandwidth limits are naturally going to happen in some capacity unless you are hosting your own server. Even with Speedify, you're best performance outcome is with a dedicated server.
Seems to be a really good line of products I could definitely recommend to customers. Actually have been looking for a reasonably good solution like this a while back.
Yes love to see a full video - there must be a cloud side fee (fusion hub) - like to know how that works as well. Also would VPN's used by the end point be connect to the fusion hub (would allow the starlink dynamic address to be used when making tunnels to faciltiies or do I not get that)? This looks fantastic, never heard of it - gotta be on the cashier side I would guess?
@crosstalk solutions Can you please do a more in depth video on the Peplink devices as the UI is a bit confusing. Tips on how to optimize the device and use its VPN features would be great. Thanks.
Really cool setup, I'm going to have to look into the peplinks. With the peplinks have you ever run into issues with MTU size, I know for CradlePoint we have. I think I know what show you were talking about. Can't think of the name rn.
I don’t know what you mean speed fusion is literally just an end. End product allows bonding over a VPN. It’s vendor agnostic when it comes to end points.
@@tidbits7808 if you’re trying to bond multiple starlings together to provide your community with Internet yes this is probably the best solution to go for
Hey there, I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your content-your videos have been invaluable as I set up my UniFi network! I recently added a second (arguably third) ISP to my home setup and am diving into the world of internet bonding for better redundancy. Here's my current setup: I have Xfinity at 1.2 Gbps as my primary connection, a Starlink 3rd Gen (averaging ~295 Mbps with ~17 ms latency), and a 4G LTE cellular connection as a last-resort backup. I was really interested in your prioritization strategies and would love your advice on a Peplink SpeedFusion router that could handle this setup. Ideally, I’d like the router to prioritize Xfinity, then use Starlink for bonding and failover, with LTE as a final fallback. I’m also considering that my main connections may offer even higher speeds over time, so I’d love a router that could scale with that. Any recommendations? Thanks again for your awesome videos and all the help you provide!
I wished Unifi would offer such a similar option. I'd love to use the combined bandwidth of both of my WANs instead of having the other one idleling as a fail-over only. I'm paying full price for the 2nd one, but can't really use it
Chris, an old ISP I used (at work) configured an Edge Router X to bond 3 ADSL's giving us 150/25....How is PepLink similar/different than the Ubiquity solution? Have you configured this in the Edge Routers?
Used them for a decade before moving to a new company that's all meraki. I miss the simplicity of doing things on peplink and also the much less disruptive HA failover process. When updating a peplink ha pair my VPN clients and SIP calls wouldn't drop when failover occurred, not the same on meraki.
I'm assuming the VPN bonding service is where they actually make their money, not the hardware, but it would be *really* great if you could buy two of these and put one in a datacenter or at home, connected to a your own fat internet pipe and host the bonding VPN on your own, without having to pay their fee or go through their datacenter
@@JaredTwomey awesome, I'm sure it's not cheap but that would be a great solution for orgs like TV networks who are trying to get live streaming back to put on air. Put this thing in your building and you save significant round trip and bandwidth costs
Love my Peplink BONE 5G. Have Starlink and RoamLink (MobileMustHave) 5G load balanced and no more buffering on Netflix. Connects to a UDM Pro and a ubiquity home network UAP6Es. Internet is the best i have ever had at my house up against the Ouachita National Forrest. Have a Peplink Max BR1 Pro 5G at my camper at Lake Ouachita with RoamLink (MobileMustHave) 5G works great. Love Peplink devices and ubiquiti.
I’m interested to add a peplink bone 5G to our company setup, as it’s currently load balanced between 2 Starlinks but we do seem to have stability issues. Only thing I’m wondering is how VPN’s would work using this. Do you have any experience with this? We’re using UDM pro as well with wireguard VPN.
Sorry and not super network savvy so just plugged in. Could probably do DMZ but i already have triple nat with the Starlink and the Peplink and the udm. Wanted nat on the pelpilnlk to decide the the load balancing and nat on the udm pro since my network was set up on it. The Peplink does have ip passthrough but was not sure if would mes with the load balancing so left off. I don’t think that Starlink has a bridge mode that i am aware of.
Not for sure on the vpn bout could use speed fusion for a vpn as long as not connecting to Netflix or something. Also would recommend adding in a 5G or if avalaible another wan because if one Starlink cannot see a satellite, unless they are far apart or pointing different directions, i would assume the other couldn’t either.
Would this work better than a UDM SE currently used with 2 5G modems with internet usage distributed 50 / 50? us it a better substitute to the 2 5G modems?
So what exactly is "SpeedFusion Connect Protect" which is the tab in my PepWave Surf SOHO Router. It kinda sounds like a way to pay someone for bandwidth I already pay someone for???
I have a Starlink and a DSL connection that I want to bond. But if I get this router, 1. Would it work to bond those and more importantly, 2. Does speed fusion require a separate subscription or service to use?
I’m looking into that. Depending on the model, there is a care Plan that you need. It’s an annual payment from around $59 to $120. And the SpeedFusion services are an extra
Hi guys Good video. Will the peplink solutions VPN service work outside the united states?.I'd like a solution like this but not sure it works around the world?
❓@14:54 - can you set up a particular IP Address (MacBook) to have priority between particular hours and days? I.e. my husband is on Zoom meetings from 7:00 - 4:00 on weekdays. But after about 5:00 we want the TV and PlayStation to take priority. Is that possible? Am I understanding how this works correctly?
Or for all of you cheapos out there, just create a vps with x number of wireguard tunnels and enable mptcp. Then for every connection use one wireguard interface and create equal cost multipath routes. Done ;)
Bummer the UniFi NeXt-Gen Gateway PRO can't manage a bond between the two WANs. Distributed and Failover only. Any guesses why they don't attempt Bonding? Is it too complicated for the hardware or just no interest in providing that? I have cable as a primary and 5G with T-mobile as a failover. Cox actually fails several times a month. It'd really be nice if both were hot the whole time. Maybe it'd cut down on the hiccup that occurs as it fails over.
Its because they would have to have a backend pipe each connection to in order to create the bond. SpeedFusion creates the backend using their service. There is a self hosted version available as well but only compatible with their routers.
@@chadtaylor1148 Bummer. Thanks! It seems a waste to run it in Distributed, even if just at 90/10. But maybe I should try that. I assume if the 90 side failed it'd switch to 100% on the 10 side, but that might be a bad assumption. As it, I've been leaving it in Failover.
I'm not so convinced. Aggregating two different Starlink terminals that are very close to each other doesn't seems to be the right solution to double the speed cause overall throughput from satellite is being already divided by all terminals connected to the transponder. Its very small probability that both of terminal will use different satellites. Using bonding in this high-latency (LTE/Sat) scenario where data travels in different paths seems to cause a lot of packet reordering in normal usage - forget about online gaming. So overall throughput seems to be limited not only by encryption but reassembling the packages in both directions - if you streaming the data - that could be right solution and its well used in TV production for years. You can do it without any fancy and pricey routers and monthly fees.
I love peplink routers I just hope they get a little more like unify in terms of their interface moving forward it's very legacy router interface which is very confusing for a lot of people
@@Reedith I really like the Peplink UI it’s clear and easy to navigate. Wayyy less options than Ubiquity but therefore it’s sooo much harder to manage.
So if Fusionhub is required to bond would that be a point of failure? If Fusion Hub went down or if your route to FusionHub was broken? Then the redundancy is moot and you have single point of failure. If you lose connection to Fusionhub is there a fallback to NOT use Fusionhub and just have the two WAN's connect in a load balance setup or just a primary with a failover?
@@CrosstalkSolutions Ok I did see that. I didn't realize that the multiple endpoints would be the failover if one went down. I guess the only risk is if they have a full network collapse like the crowdstrike event or some others where a bad line of code gets pushed and takes it all down. I was thinking the device could simply detect that the endpoint(s) were down and then default to a traditional router without bonding (maybe just load balancing or failover). I didn't know Peplink had this hardware though. Very cool. I'm using Firewalla now as my firewall/router behind my ISP. They only allow WAN failover and maybe LB but bonding isn't supported. Trying to figure out if there is a way to incorporate the Peplink into my topography
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I’ve used Peplink for years now. Rock solid stuff. You get what you pay for.
i use openmptcprputer. it does the same as speedfusion, just without any license fee.
I would love to see more Peplink content. Setup, and maybe use cases. I’ve considered them, but haven’t pulled the trigger. This video helped to push me.
Using Peplink since 2021 in our streaming company. Love those routers
where did you buy po your peplink router and what model? and how much did it cost?
i am also planning to expand to my services for livestreaming
@solarlivingph I live in Madrid, Spain. I purchased them at Disvent, in Barcelona.
Currently, I own a B One 5G, a Balance 310 5G and a Balance One
So cool.. I have to say my last cruise on RC had incredible uptime internet vs years past, you could tell that Starlink was a game changer and I assume they had a hardcore bonded peplink somewhere. Considering it was the biggest cruise ship in the fleet or ever it handled a lot of connections.
It would be nice to know the cost per month or year of speedfusion.
And will the public IP come from the Peplink hosting datacenter?
you can do the same with openmptcprouter. you can host the sever any where (vps, at home, ...) so just host the server where you get access to what you need.
For $299 B-one, it is $20 per 500GB data through Peplink's speedfusion cloud. (B-one is having $50 discount on Amazon right now.) You can set configuration setting so that only critical traffic uses speedfusion cloud. For example, youtube or netflix watching may not need it because it has good buffering. But Zoom call will need it.
@@dajian8888 what if the other endpoint is also a self purchased peplink router. Are there still monthhly costs?
I've had less trouble setting up a Peplink router than my old TP Link one. A bit pricey but it really can be a super solid set it and forget it type of thing.
Great video. Ppl do not appreciate the time and attn to detail putting together a video like this. Great job!
I use to load balance two 3Mbps DSL lines not too long ago and only worked well for certain tasks.
This is way different tech and is quite interesting.
I would highly recommend anyone on a budget look into building your own Speedify appliance. Ticks all of the boxes, but much cheaper if you're willing to build it yourself.
I want to self host something like speedify in a vps
@@ThreeTreee The Speedify team is working on that per their NAB NYC stream. Worth reaching out to them.
@ThreeTreee OpenMPTCPRouter does exactly this
@@ThreeTreee openmptcprouter is exaclty what you are looking for.
The X510 looks neat! Built in hotswappable batteries is pretty unique.
Please do a follow up video on the complete setup. What is the best configuration for a RVing remote worker that is dependent on a corporate VPN for live streaming? Maybe use home fiber or data center second router for SpeedFusion internet access?
Solid routers, but those bandwidth limits on Speed Fusion get you every time.
You can bump it up to 400mbps if you get their unlimited plan
Bandwidth limits are naturally going to happen in some capacity unless you are hosting your own server. Even with Speedify, you're best performance outcome is with a dedicated server.
You can get greater than 400Mbps with a dedicated server with Speedify.
just use openmptcprouter, no speed limit.
This sounds a lot like a infomercial but i dont see notifications
I do this at my home and also on my boat. Works very well.
A video showing how to setup starlink as a backup network on uniti would be cool. Especially using a wireless bridge
I use the MAX BR2 Pro for 2 years now with Speed Fusion. I never sweat if one of my ISP's connections drop anymore.
Seems to be a really good line of products I could definitely recommend to customers. Actually have been looking for a reasonably good solution like this a while back.
Yes love to see a full video - there must be a cloud side fee (fusion hub) - like to know how that works as well. Also would VPN's used by the end point be connect to the fusion hub (would allow the starlink dynamic address to be used when making tunnels to faciltiies or do I not get that)? This looks fantastic, never heard of it - gotta be on the cashier side I would guess?
Yes - full in-depth video please. 🙏
We are using Gen2 Starlink and 2 Verizon Gateways.
Usually things are fine, but lately all three are spotty. Sigh…
Verrry interesting, and another really well explained video Chris, thanks.
❤️Peplink!!! Great UI and rock solid!
@crosstalk solutions Can you please do a more in depth video on the Peplink devices as the UI is a bit confusing. Tips on how to optimize the device and use its VPN features would be great. Thanks.
Really cool setup, I'm going to have to look into the peplinks. With the peplinks have you ever run into issues with MTU size, I know for CradlePoint we have. I think I know what show you were talking about. Can't think of the name rn.
Have never run into MTU size issues…
I have a question. How does the Peplink SpeedFusion go with the UniFi products? Does it work well?
I have the exact same question. Want to start a UISP in the area of Mexico I’m living in
I don’t know what you mean speed fusion is literally just an end. End product allows bonding over a VPN. It’s vendor agnostic when it comes to end points.
@@tidbits7808 if you’re trying to bond multiple starlings together to provide your community with Internet yes this is probably the best solution to go for
Hey there, I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your content-your videos have been invaluable as I set up my UniFi network! I recently added a second (arguably third) ISP to my home setup and am diving into the world of internet bonding for better redundancy.
Here's my current setup: I have Xfinity at 1.2 Gbps as my primary connection, a Starlink 3rd Gen (averaging ~295 Mbps with ~17 ms latency), and a 4G LTE cellular connection as a last-resort backup. I was really interested in your prioritization strategies and would love your advice on a Peplink SpeedFusion router that could handle this setup.
Ideally, I’d like the router to prioritize Xfinity, then use Starlink for bonding and failover, with LTE as a final fallback. I’m also considering that my main connections may offer even higher speeds over time, so I’d love a router that could scale with that. Any recommendations? Thanks again for your awesome videos and all the help you provide!
What we really need are multihom aware servers that can respond with packets to different source addresses.
I was too busy being Rick Rolled by Chris to understand anything in this video 🤣
I wished Unifi would offer such a similar option. I'd love to use the combined bandwidth of both of my WANs instead of having the other one idleling as a fail-over only. I'm paying full price for the 2nd one, but can't really use it
failovers should ideally run on differrent infrastructures. still makes sense for speed
How well can this work with a static IP assignment and port forwarding for inbound traffic?
Very cool, this is what I have been looking for.
Thank you so much for the video
Is there a cheaper alternative to Peplink b one 5g?
Imho, the B One 5G is really cheap for what it offers
Any of their routers can do SpeedFusion - it just depends on the WAN capabilities you need.
Is it possible to convert the other LAN ports to additional WAN ports???
@@ryusufu Yup, they have something called a VWAN license that does exactly that. 1 comes free as long as you have warranty and you can have up to 3
yes. just get any 5g modem with ethernet port. do the bonding seperate on an old firewall/vm/rpi, ...
run openmptcprouter for the bonding.
Chris, an old ISP I used (at work) configured an Edge Router X to bond 3 ADSL's giving us 150/25....How is PepLink similar/different than the Ubiquity solution? Have you configured this in the Edge Routers?
I'd be interested in what protocol was being used for that livestream, the redundancy is exactly what some protocols absolutely don't like.
the reduncancy is only between router and exit node, the streaming platform does not recive redundant packets.
You should do a video on the cheaper alternative. "Open MPTCP Router".
Can the cellular be used as a primary or only as backup?
Cool...! Just saw news that United Airline will provide free wi-fi during the flight by Starlink, do they use Peplink routers as well?
Great video!Can I set another peplink connected to broadband for speed fusion egress? Thank you
Do I just buy the device, or do I also need to pay an extra service for it to bond?
Used them for a decade before moving to a new company that's all meraki. I miss the simplicity of doing things on peplink and also the much less disruptive HA failover process. When updating a peplink ha pair my VPN clients and SIP calls wouldn't drop when failover occurred, not the same on meraki.
I'm assuming the VPN bonding service is where they actually make their money, not the hardware, but it would be *really* great if you could buy two of these and put one in a datacenter or at home, connected to a your own fat internet pipe and host the bonding VPN on your own, without having to pay their fee or go through their datacenter
You can install the fusion hub virtual machine at the data center of your choice and not have the data limits.
Or just use pfsense, used it many times to bond slow lines out through a data center.
Plenty of guides.
@@JaredTwomey awesome, I'm sure it's not cheap but that would be a great solution for orgs like TV networks who are trying to get live streaming back to put on air. Put this thing in your building and you save significant round trip and bandwidth costs
Will your public ip become speedfusion/peplink instead of startlink when using bonding?
Is there much of a data overhead when using speedfusion?
Love my Peplink BONE 5G. Have Starlink and RoamLink (MobileMustHave) 5G load balanced and no more buffering on Netflix. Connects to a UDM Pro and a ubiquity home network UAP6Es. Internet is the best i have ever had at my house up against the Ouachita National Forrest. Have a Peplink Max BR1 Pro 5G at my camper at Lake Ouachita with RoamLink (MobileMustHave) 5G works great. Love Peplink devices and ubiquiti.
I’m interested to add a peplink bone 5G to our company setup, as it’s currently load balanced between 2 Starlinks but we do seem to have stability issues.
Only thing I’m wondering is how VPN’s would work using this.
Do you have any experience with this? We’re using UDM pro as well with wireguard VPN.
To connect the udm pro did you need to do any configuration like DMZ? Or was it just plug and play
Sorry and not super network savvy so just plugged in. Could probably do DMZ but i already have triple nat with the Starlink and the Peplink and the udm. Wanted nat on the pelpilnlk to decide the the load balancing and nat on the udm pro since my network was set up on it. The Peplink does have ip passthrough but was not sure if would mes with the load balancing so left off. I don’t think that Starlink has a bridge mode that i am aware of.
Not for sure on the vpn bout could use speed fusion for a vpn as long as not connecting to Netflix or something. Also would recommend adding in a 5G or if avalaible another wan because if one Starlink cannot see a satellite, unless they are far apart or pointing different directions, i would assume the other couldn’t either.
Do I have to pay for a subscription plan to access speed fusion on peplink routers
Interesting thanks. I would have thought you would have created the service yourself though.
Would this work better than a UDM SE currently used with 2 5G modems with internet usage distributed 50 / 50? us it a better substitute to the 2 5G modems?
Which Peplink device has 3 modems and at least 2 wired LAN ports? I'd like to combine 3 cell carriers with Starlink and OneWeb.
So what exactly is "SpeedFusion Connect Protect" which is the tab in my PepWave Surf SOHO Router. It kinda sounds like a way to pay someone for bandwidth I already pay someone for???
I have a Starlink and a DSL connection that I want to bond. But if I get this router, 1. Would it work to bond those and more importantly, 2. Does speed fusion require a separate subscription or service to use?
I’m looking into that. Depending on the model, there is a care Plan that you need. It’s an annual payment from around $59 to $120. And the SpeedFusion services are an extra
Do they have a virtual router? I see they have the hub for the cloud side.
Hi guys
Good video.
Will the peplink solutions VPN service work outside the united states?.I'd like a solution like this but not sure it works around the world?
Can you position a Fortigate behind it?
Is SpeedFusion based on MPTCP?
i dont know. but openmptcprouter is, and its free.
what is the time delay that Speedfusion introduces with redundant packets if you see continuous interruptions of either/both links? 100 msec?
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❓@14:54 - can you set up a particular IP Address (MacBook) to have priority between particular hours and days?
I.e. my husband is on Zoom meetings from 7:00 - 4:00 on weekdays. But after about 5:00 we want the TV and PlayStation to take priority.
Is that possible? Am I understanding how this works correctly?
please do a video about openMPTCProuter. its like speedfussion, but opensource (the ui isent as clean, but its free.)
This is all cool but is t SF super expensive for data? Can someone explain that
I use a ER605 and it's rough as hell. I wonder if others have this smoothing/hot failover function, since I live in Brazil and there's no Peplink here
I see a bunch of Brazilian resellers on the partner list on their site
Guessing the show is "Alone".
Or for all of you cheapos out there, just create a vps with x number of wireguard tunnels and enable mptcp. Then for every connection use one wireguard interface and create equal cost multipath routes. Done ;)
Bummer the UniFi NeXt-Gen Gateway PRO can't manage a bond between the two WANs. Distributed and Failover only. Any guesses why they don't attempt Bonding? Is it too complicated for the hardware or just no interest in providing that? I have cable as a primary and 5G with T-mobile as a failover. Cox actually fails several times a month. It'd really be nice if both were hot the whole time. Maybe it'd cut down on the hiccup that occurs as it fails over.
Its because they would have to have a backend pipe each connection to in order to create the bond. SpeedFusion creates the backend using their service. There is a self hosted version available as well but only compatible with their routers.
@@chadtaylor1148 Bummer. Thanks! It seems a waste to run it in Distributed, even if just at 90/10. But maybe I should try that. I assume if the 90 side failed it'd switch to 100% on the 10 side, but that might be a bad assumption. As it, I've been leaving it in Failover.
What does this do to MTU?
I'm not so convinced. Aggregating two different Starlink terminals that are very close to each other doesn't seems to be the right solution to double the speed cause overall throughput from satellite is being already divided by all terminals connected to the transponder. Its very small probability that both of terminal will use different satellites. Using bonding in this high-latency (LTE/Sat) scenario where data travels in different paths seems to cause a lot of packet reordering in normal usage - forget about online gaming. So overall throughput seems to be limited not only by encryption but reassembling the packages in both directions - if you streaming the data - that could be right solution and its well used in TV production for years. You can do it without any fancy and pricey routers and monthly fees.
Too bad they don't have an SLA on their cloud uptime...
can i loadbalance 4 starlinks? is speedfusion service available México?
Yes you can - Royal Caribbean load balances 12.
You can do more than just load balance. Speedify has done some really cools stuff with multiple starlinks.
Why doesn't Unifi offer this? Am I misunderstanding something?
I want Unifi to offer something similar as well. For now, I'm using 2 WANs, but can't use combine the bandwidth which sucks
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sounds non affordable.
But can you game on it?
Fancy SD-WAN?
I love peplink routers I just hope they get a little more like unify in terms of their interface moving forward it's very legacy router interface which is very confusing for a lot of people
@@Reedith I really like the Peplink UI it’s clear and easy to navigate.
Wayyy less options than Ubiquity but therefore it’s sooo much harder to manage.
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So if Fusionhub is required to bond would that be a point of failure? If Fusion Hub went down or if your route to FusionHub was broken? Then the redundancy is moot and you have single point of failure. If you lose connection to Fusionhub is there a fallback to NOT use Fusionhub and just have the two WAN's connect in a load balance setup or just a primary with a failover?
In the video I demonstrate connecting to 3 SpeedFusion endpoints simultaneously- there’s redundancy.
@@CrosstalkSolutions Ok I did see that. I didn't realize that the multiple endpoints would be the failover if one went down. I guess the only risk is if they have a full network collapse like the crowdstrike event or some others where a bad line of code gets pushed and takes it all down. I was thinking the device could simply detect that the endpoint(s) were down and then default to a traditional router without bonding (maybe just load balancing or failover).
I didn't know Peplink had this hardware though. Very cool. I'm using Firewalla now as my firewall/router behind my ISP. They only allow WAN failover and maybe LB but bonding isn't supported. Trying to figure out if there is a way to incorporate the Peplink into my topography
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