You do some awesome work as well mac. If I recall I've seen like at least 5 or 10 videos from you about ubiquiti installation and more haha. Been a while though think I may need to subscribe
For years I've been wanting to send ubiquiti equipment to Cerro Gordo when I was running the ubiquiti online store. It was such a large hassle trying to get that underway because management didn't understand the equipment we were shipping that I kept getting ignored. I am so happy to see this finally get underway.
Man I just love how we’re in a time where internet being available to everyone is something that’s possible. Like first you have StarLink then you have this crazy concept, where you could just beam wifi to the middle of nowhere. Also shoutout to Ubiquit and the other companies for making this possible.😅
This vid makes me want to show off my farms network. My budget was significantly higher so I opted for all U7 wifi, true cable cat6a shielded direct burial and almost 100 cameras for 36 acres. Not a single dead zone :)
19:10 If you unravel the cable turning It 90 degrees, then start laying, it won't twist, and it will lay flat on the ground. You could use a broom to hold with the cable spool.
Great video, except I'll be twitching all night from watching how that cable down the hill was unwrapped from that spool. Some things can never be unseen.
Wow. That takes me back. In the 70s I was a geology student mapping in the mountains near there as part of a summer program. This is one of the coolest installations I have ever seen!
What is the communication looking tower on top of the hill? The one with a couple of pretty good size communication dishes on it, along with a small building. I'm guessing some telecommunication company's infrastructure and if so, too bad they won't provide Internet to the town.
That tower is owned by the county I believe - early on we investigated whether we'd be able to use it for anything related to this project, but it was a hard no.
Ubiquiti is one of the most amazing networking companies to modern date. They are constantly improving their lineup. That's why we took a gamble on them at our technology museum way back in 2018. Now we are the largest technology museum in the U.S. and still are using their products.
awesome video its always interesting to see what needs to be done to get something most of us count as something that is just there and loved the plastidip coating looked really nice my only concern is that the cooling might be compromised because of it (if it had any cooling slots/holes then see about removing the plastidip from those area) this wont be such a big issue while its cold but when it gets hotter it might become an issue my idea was to put a small roof keeping it out of high sun in the summer to keep it cool if that is possible. hope this helps and keep up the the good work
1. @2:00 how does a site survey not discover the place you intend to put your MDF doesn't have any power? 2. @8:52 Its called a drain wire. 3. @9:48 Site survey and you get the wood grain skin not the black one... and install it on BLACK WOOD ahahaha 4. @12:04 No patch panel??? with 6 inch patch cables... OH MY messy 5. @18:15 Why don't you have a set of rack-a-tiers and PULL THE LIGHT CABLE off the spool up the hill 6. @19:12 OMG! sure... don't let the cable pay out nice and flat, pull it off the spool by hand and leave hideous coils all the way down the hill 7. @26:38 not armored fiber... normal fiber patch cable
I was a subscriber to brent's channel before the fire at the hotel. I"ve seen his range of emotions and the the roadblocks he's had to deal with to get it rebuilt. I think it would be super cool to see you guys get that one online!
Love watching your on site videos and appreciate all the work you put into the design! I volunteer at the Tallac Historic Site in South Lake Tahoe during the summer and would love to install a similar network for them that would cover the Historic Site, Taylor Creek visitor center as well as the volunteer RV campgrounds. The main problem is the area covered and the tall pine trees everywhere.
This is somewhat similar to the deployment I’ve been slowly working on implementing at the museum I volunteer at, remote and multiple buildings with no good sight lines. Although I have the additional headache of overhead DC wiring that wrecks signal. Absolutely love the Ubiquiti equipment, wish we could get it donated like this, my wallet hurts every time I get the next piece of our network puzzle.
That's great,...the old pencil sharpener that was on the wall in every one of my classes in school, now on display in a ghost town in the Gordon House. Sure makes me feel my age.🤣
Being up in the mountains like that, I'd think they'd get lightning. Is there any protection added for that? I'd be concerned about that long up up the hill. A nearby strike could induce some high voltages.
If you ever plan on holidaying to NZ let us know, I've DIY'd a unifi set up, primarily from watching yours and MacTN's videos for a large property that could use a hands on upgrade
Great video! Curious as to what the tool pouch is that Dave has on his hip and what he keeps in it. I've been looking for something similar to it to keep my cable tools in for when I'm doing terminations.
Wow I waited so long for this video, i just recently checked your channel if i missed the installation. Thy for that installation video! 39:35 what are those dishes for on the mountain?
9:03 i am really wondering if we here in germany use just overkill cable but here it is pretty much standard to use cat 7 cable double shielded, cat 6 is mostly used for patch cables but as installation it is cat 7 and that for at least 15 years now and i am wondering if we just future proofiing or what
cat7 isn't a real standard, at least not as far as American standards bodies are concerned. cat7 also doesn't use the typical (8p8c) ethernet connectors, so cat6 is preferred.
@@iswm well all i can say as a proffesional electrician here in germany is that we use cat 7 s/ftp pimf 1000mhz cable which in theory is good for 10gbit and that cable we use for at least 15 years now so you could switch anytime to higher speeds and 1 meter (i believe abot 3 ft?) costs around 0,79 € so it is pretty cheap and yes we only put cat 6a wall plugs on the ends and use mostly cat 6a ethernet patchcables to connect to it but the infrastructure can handle more and it uses the normal RJ45 plug because its cat6a in the end because of the wall plugs but if you want you can switch the connnectors and have the possibility to use faster speed without having to pull new cables while only paying a little more cat 5 costs like 0,71€/m so the 8 cent is like nothing, if youre crazy enough you could even get "cat 8.2" which can handle up to 2000mhz but then 1m costs like 1,99€. thats why i aways am wondering why you use such an old standard that is like from the last century but on the otherhand all your electric stuff like fuses and breaker panel look to an german electrician like you have stopped developing anything new since the 1960s...
Does the UDM SE aggregate the Starlink and P2P circuit or is it just a failover? Great work on this. Just need Brent to go back and hit all those J poles and outside white conduit pipes with brown Plastidip. It's all I could focus on in that video LOL.
i am trying set up a small mono pole tower on mountain to cover a valley with a litebeam and liteAP ac 120 with a switch in between them , but unable to buy/ find a portable solar system here in my country I need a small solar panel that goes into small battery+ inverter that can power litebeam and lite ap at night or even on cloudy day as there is no other way to bring power to that point in mountain
Agreed. Runs at that length seem to be less expensive single mode and the transceiver cost increase for 1g or 10g are far less than the cost difference of the fiber. Truecable shows a $40 cost increase in OM3 over OS2 2 strand cable at 250 feet to make it apples-to-apples.
I would have thought with the distance down the mineshaft that SMF would be the correct choice: 10Gb 10Km SPFs are cheap, and single mode fibre is cheaper and easier to splice.
A few reasons, not the least of which is that it was donated to the project for free. But also, I liked the level of armor in the cable (it's specifically marketed as suitable for mining operations). Plus, the 6 strands of fiber makes me feel more comfortable about redundancy and future expandability. Regardless, OM3 is rated for 10Gbps up to 300+ meters and we weren't going that far with it. It worked perfectly.
A truly challenging project can be marked as accomplished.The organizational and installation side has been discussed, but what about the purely technical side?How are the individual Wi-Fi links configured? Are they separate or is everything managed by UDMSE? Do Wi-Fi links for connectivity also act as access points or are they dedicated links? I am very curious about the purely configuration side of such an undertaking.I'm also curious if you use MESH on a par with other connectivity or if you don't use it at all. Whenever I turned MESH on, it often clogged the entire network. But I didn't really have a chance to investigate exactly how MESH works and why it was cutting off connectivity.
As stated in the video - the WISP is providing up to 40mbps upload. Starlink depending on time of day and load can perform between 6-30mbps up. Your luck may vary.
Overall great installation. Must of been quite a bit of work and quite a few UISP/Unifi design Center's hours to figure this stuff out. Love me some NanoBeams. Was that direct burial cable going up the hill berried into the ground afterwards? I know I'm sure you guys wanted more time for cable management but I know 3 days was cutting it close for sure.
Does painting it a dark color affect the temps for the outdoor units? I painted my AP routers black that was in direct sunlight outside and it ended up turning off due to temps I had to repaint it white😂
Great video; very enjoyable stuff. I was most interested in your coating find (Camo Plasti Dip) and I wonder if you've tested the loss at 5 GHz, or whether someone who has tested it recommended it? One of the known tests amongst us radio hams would be to spray something with it then put it in the microwave oven (if it gets hot, likely it'll absorb the RF and thus not be suitable) but of course, many of us have the kit to do more scientific test over a wide bandwidth and through a sample. Do you happen to know if that's yet been done by anyone? 😀
I loved the video although i dont wanna be that guy but please dont pull cables side ways off a roll. Always try to physically roll it off otherwise it twists up a heap and introduces way more twists than needed
Curious, why the use of the POE injector at the Gordon House. The UDM-SE has two POE+ and 6 POE ports. The Rocket Prism only needs POE. Is that just acting as surge protection? What am I missing?
The Prism is a 24v Passive device - that can use up to .5amp or more at times. The POE to 24v Adapters are typically underpowered to run a Prism, thus the Injector. 24v Passive POE is not AF/AT/BT POE.
I really like my ubiquity gear I've had mine for very long time now. I bought it because of your channel. Are you going to review the UNAS Pro? I'd really like to buy one seems cool but sadly that's when I had money so prob wont be able to afford one ever but I can dream.
I don't get why they bother painting those antennas when they've already made quite a mess with hanging cables and those funny brackets for the antennas.
Thanks for letting me tag along and learn all about outdoor, long-range networking!
BEAST MODE Tim!
It was awesome seeing some of my fav tech TH-camrs doing a project together!
They put you in the doll room and made you carry a 50 lb spool of cable up a hill 🤣
@TechnoTim Is this what sparked your garage rework?
TechnoTim on Cerro Gordo?? Man, what a day to be alive! :D Good to see you there man!
Such a cool project. Love seeing real world installs
You do some awesome work as well mac. If I recall I've seen like at least 5 or 10 videos from you about ubiquiti installation and more haha. Been a while though think I may need to subscribe
I've been waiting for this video since the first one aired. NICE to finally be watching it. Thanks !
same here
For years I've been wanting to send ubiquiti equipment to Cerro Gordo when I was running the ubiquiti online store. It was such a large hassle trying to get that underway because management didn't understand the equipment we were shipping that I kept getting ignored. I am so happy to see this finally get underway.
Man I just love how we’re in a time where internet being available to everyone is something that’s possible. Like first you have StarLink then you have this crazy concept, where you could just beam wifi to the middle of nowhere. Also shoutout to Ubiquit and the other companies for making this possible.😅
I Love seeing such a massive multi youtuber collaboration there needs to be more of this!!
Really love watching these kinds of install videos
This vid makes me want to show off my farms network. My budget was significantly higher so I opted for all U7 wifi, true cable cat6a shielded direct burial and almost 100 cameras for 36 acres. Not a single dead zone :)
@@blobidk I'd love to see/read about it
Just uploaded a video about my off-grid camera and WiFi setup. Check it out if you like
@@blobidk thx will do
Excellent video great job guys
Wow! What a video! I've been waiting for it! Awesome job guys!
19:10 If you unravel the cable turning It 90 degrees, then start laying, it won't twist, and it will lay flat on the ground. You could use a broom to hold with the cable spool.
Absolutely epic. What a fantastic collaboration and project! Cheers, dudes!
Great video, except I'll be twitching all night from watching how that cable down the hill was unwrapped from that spool. Some things can never be unseen.
This is great! 🎉
I been waiting for this video for so long and it was great
A great watch, the background music was mixed in really well.
Always enjoy your videos. This one was excellent. Thank you for sharing. Happy Thanksgiving!
Amazing project and thanks for sharing!
Hell yeah. Now this is true TH-cam content!
Daaaaammmmnnn. An absolutely nice install and project. Congratulations 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What an amazing trip!
Wow. That takes me back. In the 70s I was a geology student mapping in the mountains near there as part of a summer program. This is one of the coolest installations I have ever seen!
Great project and video keep them coming
Finaly!!!!! was waiting 4 ever for this part!
i love all you guys
Great video, thanks for keeping some of the technical details in and making a longer video.
What is the communication looking tower on top of the hill? The one with a couple of pretty good size communication dishes on it, along with a small building. I'm guessing some telecommunication company's infrastructure and if so, too bad they won't provide Internet to the town.
That tower is owned by the county I believe - early on we investigated whether we'd be able to use it for anything related to this project, but it was a hard no.
I completely forgot about this…. Stoked to watch it😊
I really like this, nice work!
Ubiquiti is one of the most amazing networking companies to modern date. They are constantly improving their lineup. That's why we took a gamble on them at our technology museum way back in 2018. Now we are the largest technology museum in the U.S. and still are using their products.
Goodjob guys!
Great work up there. Looking forward to my return trip to visit and try out the new WiFi.
awesome video its always interesting to see what needs to be done to get something most of us count as something that is just there and loved the plastidip coating looked really nice my only concern is that the cooling might be compromised because of it (if it had any cooling slots/holes then see about removing the plastidip from those area) this wont be such a big issue while its cold but when it gets hotter it might become an issue my idea was to put a small roof keeping it out of high sun in the summer to keep it cool if that is possible. hope this helps and keep up the the good work
NIce! I have used infinite cables armored cables in installs out in the desert as well. Good Stuff.
Great relaxing video... You did a great job ;o) As always
Looks like a nice set up, however as a WISP operator, I didn’t see any grounding or surge suppression hopefully you accommodated that on a hilltop.
Awesome video, nice editing. love the diagrams
Really enjoyed this video and learned a lot. Thank you so much!
What a great video and fun install.
1. @2:00 how does a site survey not discover the place you intend to put your MDF doesn't have any power?
2. @8:52 Its called a drain wire.
3. @9:48 Site survey and you get the wood grain skin not the black one... and install it on BLACK WOOD ahahaha
4. @12:04 No patch panel??? with 6 inch patch cables... OH MY messy
5. @18:15 Why don't you have a set of rack-a-tiers and PULL THE LIGHT CABLE off the spool up the hill
6. @19:12 OMG! sure... don't let the cable pay out nice and flat, pull it off the spool by hand and leave hideous coils all the way down the hill
7. @26:38 not armored fiber... normal fiber patch cable
I was a subscriber to brent's channel before the fire at the hotel. I"ve seen his range of emotions and the the roadblocks he's had to deal with to get it rebuilt. I think it would be super cool to see you guys get that one online!
I’ve done it too 20:03 one thing I love from the NanoBeam
FANTASTIC!!!!!
Love watching your on site videos and appreciate all the work you put into the design! I volunteer at the Tallac Historic Site in South Lake Tahoe during the summer and would love to install a similar network for them that would cover the Historic Site, Taylor Creek visitor center as well as the volunteer RV campgrounds. The main problem is the area covered and the tall pine trees everywhere.
Funny Tim mentioning that rack for his garage. I put one in a family member’s garage to house the NVR and networking for their security cameras.
Glad got the fiber for that mine shaft! That's one expensive but irreplaceable equipment out of the way
Great video love it
This is somewhat similar to the deployment I’ve been slowly working on implementing at the museum I volunteer at, remote and multiple buildings with no good sight lines. Although I have the additional headache of overhead DC wiring that wrecks signal. Absolutely love the Ubiquiti equipment, wish we could get it donated like this, my wallet hurts every time I get the next piece of our network puzzle.
SWEET!
This is amazing!!!!!!!
36:00 I bet that telco microwave repeater site in the background has good internet.
Fantastic!
Those covers on the access points look sick
I see my advice to get the Klein VDV226-110 didn't land on deaf ears :) Great project and nicely done!
Why did he walked up the hill with the cable ?
That's great,...the old pencil sharpener that was on the wall in every one of my classes in school, now on display in a ghost town in the Gordon House. Sure makes me feel my age.🤣
cool project, i would be interested in the architecture design, lots must have went into it.
Guys we've seen enough of The hills have eyes to feel safe bout this one :P
Nah seriously, as always a great video!
at 8:45 I'm digging this RimWorld style geetar music ;)
RimWorld was my inspiration for the soundtrack…good ear!
6:02 aaaand of course there we have a trusty routerboard ... 'ye ol'reliable (:
Being up in the mountains like that, I'd think they'd get lightning. Is there any protection added for that? I'd be concerned about that long up up the hill. A nearby strike could induce some high voltages.
If you ever plan on holidaying to NZ let us know, I've DIY'd a unifi set up, primarily from watching yours and MacTN's videos for a large property that could use a hands on upgrade
Great video! Curious as to what the tool pouch is that Dave has on his hip and what he keeps in it. I've been looking for something similar to it to keep my cable tools in for when I'm doing terminations.
Dave here! I love that tool pouch, and I have tried a lot. It is called the "Joey Pouch" on Amazon. About $30ish.
@@david_does Thank you!
Super cool
The only thing missing is cooking and eating. Great video
Wow I waited so long for this video, i just recently checked your channel if i missed the installation. Thy for that installation video! 39:35 what are those dishes for on the mountain?
9:03 i am really wondering if we here in germany use just overkill cable but here it is pretty much standard to use cat 7 cable double shielded, cat 6 is mostly used for patch cables but as installation it is cat 7 and that for at least 15 years now and i am wondering if we just future proofiing or what
cat7 isn't a real standard, at least not as far as American standards bodies are concerned. cat7 also doesn't use the typical (8p8c) ethernet connectors, so cat6 is preferred.
@@iswm well all i can say as a proffesional electrician here in germany is that we use cat 7 s/ftp pimf 1000mhz cable which in theory is good for 10gbit and that cable we use for at least 15 years now so you could switch anytime to higher speeds and 1 meter (i believe abot 3 ft?) costs around 0,79 € so it is pretty cheap and yes we only put cat 6a wall plugs on the ends and use mostly cat 6a ethernet patchcables to connect to it but the infrastructure can handle more and it uses the normal RJ45 plug because its cat6a in the end because of the wall plugs but if you want you can switch the connnectors and have the possibility to use faster speed without having to pull new cables while only paying a little more cat 5 costs like 0,71€/m so the 8 cent is like nothing, if youre crazy enough you could even get "cat 8.2" which can handle up to 2000mhz but then 1m costs like 1,99€.
thats why i aways am wondering why you use such an old standard that is like from the last century but on the otherhand all your electric stuff like fuses and breaker panel look to an german electrician like you have stopped developing anything new since the 1960s...
Great video. One question, why wasn't the J-mounts also painted?
Thanks. Why did you not coat the mounting poles/ hardware also?
O.o and here I was hoping to get this job lol
Does the UDM SE aggregate the Starlink and P2P circuit or is it just a failover? Great work on this. Just need Brent to go back and hit all those J poles and outside white conduit pipes with brown Plastidip. It's all I could focus on in that video LOL.
i am trying set up a small mono pole tower on mountain to cover a valley with a litebeam and liteAP ac 120 with a switch in between them , but unable to buy/ find a portable solar system here in my country I need a small solar panel that goes into small battery+ inverter that can power litebeam and lite ap at night or even on cloudy day as there is no other way to bring power to that point in mountain
What made you choose multimode fiber over singlemode?
Agreed. Runs at that length seem to be less expensive single mode and the transceiver cost increase for 1g or 10g are far less than the cost difference of the fiber. Truecable shows a $40 cost increase in OM3 over OS2 2 strand cable at 250 feet to make it apples-to-apples.
future expandability I would have to guess.
I would have thought with the distance down the mineshaft that SMF would be the correct choice: 10Gb 10Km SPFs are cheap, and single mode fibre is cheaper and easier to splice.
A few reasons, not the least of which is that it was donated to the project for free.
But also, I liked the level of armor in the cable (it's specifically marketed as suitable for mining operations). Plus, the 6 strands of fiber makes me feel more comfortable about redundancy and future expandability.
Regardless, OM3 is rated for 10Gbps up to 300+ meters and we weren't going that far with it. It worked perfectly.
A truly challenging project can be marked as accomplished.The organizational and installation side has been discussed, but what about the purely technical side?How are the individual Wi-Fi links configured? Are they separate or is everything managed by UDMSE? Do Wi-Fi links for connectivity also act as access points or are they dedicated links? I am very curious about the purely configuration side of such an undertaking.I'm also curious if you use MESH on a par with other connectivity or if you don't use it at all. Whenever I turned MESH on, it often clogged the entire network. But I didn't really have a chance to investigate exactly how MESH works and why it was cutting off connectivity.
19:10 You need to unwheel it, itherways the cable getst a twist in it!
Cool project. Next trip is a FreePBX phone system and a phone extension 900’ down the mine :) that would be another first.
That area seems like a good testing ground for a small private LTE install.
The starling there has to be faster than that PTP. Why not make that the primary?
As stated in the video - the WISP is providing up to 40mbps upload. Starlink depending on time of day and load can perform between 6-30mbps up. Your luck may vary.
Overall great installation. Must of been quite a bit of work and quite a few UISP/Unifi design Center's hours to figure this stuff out. Love me some NanoBeams.
Was that direct burial cable going up the hill berried into the ground afterwards?
I know I'm sure you guys wanted more time for cable management but I know 3 days was cutting it close for sure.
So whats doing the routing? Mikrotik at solar station or UDM?
Does painting it a dark color affect the temps for the outdoor units? I painted my AP routers black that was in direct sunlight outside and it ended up turning off due to temps I had to repaint it white😂
Great video; very enjoyable stuff. I was most interested in your coating find (Camo Plasti Dip) and I wonder if you've tested the loss at 5 GHz, or whether someone who has tested it recommended it? One of the known tests amongst us radio hams would be to spray something with it then put it in the microwave oven (if it gets hot, likely it'll absorb the RF and thus not be suitable) but of course, many of us have the kit to do more scientific test over a wide bandwidth and through a sample. Do you happen to know if that's yet been done by anyone? 😀
Awesome
Did I understand correctly that that WISP is the main connection and starlink is the back up? What kind of speeds are both of them giving?
good lads
Didn’t opt for the UniFi battery so it could all be monitored from the UniFi dashboard?
which UPS did you use?
An unsponsored one. :)
It appears to be a cyberpower model, commonly found on Amazon
WOW !!!!!
So why is there any point to multi-point antennas and radios etc that aren't ubiquity? Why don't just use unify for the whole setup?
Some of that cabling is so rough. Very cool install though
Those nano beams are pretty fool proof, I have had one get turned around and it still gets a signal when its pointed the wrong direction.
No speed test?
I think they are aiming for reliability here
i should take a day trip here only about 3 hours drive from this location
I loved the video although i dont wanna be that guy but please dont pull cables side ways off a roll. Always try to physically roll it off otherwise it twists up a heap and introduces way more twists than needed
Curious, why the use of the POE injector at the Gordon House. The UDM-SE has two POE+ and 6 POE ports. The Rocket Prism only needs POE. Is that just acting as surge protection? What am I missing?
The Prism is a 24v Passive device - that can use up to .5amp or more at times. The POE to 24v Adapters are typically underpowered to run a Prism, thus the Injector. 24v Passive POE is not AF/AT/BT POE.
I really like my ubiquity gear I've had mine for very long time now. I bought it because of your channel. Are you going to review the UNAS Pro? I'd really like to buy one seems cool but sadly that's when I had money so prob wont be able to afford one ever but I can dream.
I think it would be funny to have some sort of "resist the temptation" service that just blocks your MAC address from connecting
MeshTastic and/or other LoRa solutions next?
How do you manage the nanobeams? Do you have a usip controller?
Yes - UISP.
I don't get why they bother painting those antennas when they've already made quite a mess with hanging cables and those funny brackets for the antennas.