Thanks for this info. There’s lots of clips on patch bays and yours is in the top few good ones. It’s good at explaining the different use cases for the various modes.
I don’t know if I’m just lacking electrolytes or my learning style requires more hands on training, but everything you said might as well be Chinese to me. I don’t understand why patchbays have to be so complicated for such simple devices.
@@NRVE8 it was definitely a hands on issue. Once I got the patch bay and made a diagram I got it all hooked up no problem. I didn’t expect to have to make 70 cables for it but hey, it was fun.
Not just you mate, every patch at tutorial video is about a story of their life and sped up patchbay setups and more long stories about how they plugged in all their gear without showing us
Such a helpful video. Thanks for sharing. I'd love to see a video of you connecting an interface like an Apollo to a patchbay along with outboard gear. Keep up the great work
Great video! This helped a ton with my new interface. Question for you though; I see you have your guitar amps in this chain which inspired me to do the same. however i get a TON of noise and even pickup a random radio channel if I am not playing. Any advice on what I can do to remove this? I have the samson S patch > guitar pedals > boss katana. thanks in advance!
I have a question, is it safe to put phantom power directly through the patchbay with all my other gear connected as well? In this case I have the Samson but I've read in forums that for connecting microphones directly into the patchbay you should really get a dedicated XLR patchbay. Thanks a lot for this brilliant information.
As long as phantom power is NOT engaged while connecting and disconnecting the mic, it should be ok. However, to be safe you can use an XLR panel instead for patching microphones.
This is awesome but I have a question...At :24 you said the top row in the back are inputs and bottom rows were outputs..I thought it was the other way..outputs usually on top and inputs on the bottom...I'm probably wrong, but i'm thinking of the patch bay as an extension of what is being connected to it..can you clarify? Thanks so much
Could you clarify for me? Your boom mic for example that you showed; how is it going into the patch panel? Is it via a snake that converts to trs? I’m assuming you don’t just do all xlr to trs cables for your microphones?
That particular microphone is actually hard wired to the back of the panel with an XLR to TRS cable because it never gets disconnected. However, most mics patch to the XLR panel which is connected to the back of the patchbay.
Amazing video!! One question.. I have an 8 channel mixer with only 2 stereo imput, and and want to connect all my keyboards at the same time to record, patchbay is a solution for that?
Thanks, David! A patchbay would allow you to use patch cables from the keyboard (jacks on the patchbay) to the stereo mixer input (jacks on the patchbay) instead of reaching behind the mixer/keyboards directly. You can also use two mono channels on the mixer for each stereo keyboard.
How about microphone inputs? I have been considering a patchbay for quite some time now because it's a real pain to always switch cables with my 2 in 4 out interface (SSL 2+). I have some synths, guitar fx pedals, a record player, a dj setup, etc. AND a Shure SM7b. How can I connect my XLR mic to the patch bay so that I can fully utilise my patchbay in the best way possible? Thanks in advance!!
stupid question if i want to use a condenser mic wich needs phantom power and route it to a mic pre via the patch bay do i provide it with an external phantom power suply or ?
The TRS patchbays in this video can pass phantom power. Just make sure to disengage phantom power before connecting or disconnecting the mic on the patchbay.
Hi there, how can you use a jack patch bay with condenser microphones? I have an 18i20 too and I still can't fathom how you would use a patch bay for condenser mics. Would you just keep the two inputs at the front of the 18i20 spare for those mics?
Rather than connecting the microphones directly to the patchbay, I’d recommend an XLR patch panel or XLR snake that is connected to the back of the patchbay. Something like this: imp.i114863.net/YgMaGB You will still need to either solder TRS connectors to that or use XLR to TRS adapters. The benefit is that the mic panel/snake is always connected to the patchbay so you can simply connect your mics to that panel with XLR cables.
Is this possible? I want to run a mixer into a patchbay that will have at least 6 synths. 3 of those synths can sample. I want to use the inputs of those devices through the patchbay. I then also want to individually connect 9 different FX Pedals in the patchbay so that I could connect which ever synth to the pedal or a series of pedals to record on my PC or one of the samplers. And finally, would it be easier to reroute the audio chain back to empty mixer channels, then out to my monitors? Or should I patch the monitors to the patchbay?
Just read a reply from you for one of the old comments and it totally answered my question about this and how you should use Xlr to Trs for a mic and how to connect a Xlr rack panel to a Trs patchbay with a Trs to xlr so thank you so much and I love your videos and you so thank you😊
Why the f*** don't they make a rack mountable 16 point patchbay? I have 8 more channels on my console that need to be patched in, but I don't need 48 freaking points! I guess it would be ok to have extra room for more gear in the future, but my brain doesn't work like that lol. I don't like spending money on stuff I don't need yet. (which is also why I've only used 24 of 32 channels for the last 8 years)
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Wow! Thanks, Louis. I’m glad you are enjoying the videos.
Thanks for this info. There’s lots of clips on patch bays and yours is in the top few good ones. It’s good at explaining the different use cases for the various modes.
Glad you liked it! Thanks!
I don’t know if I’m just lacking electrolytes or my learning style requires more hands on training, but everything you said might as well be Chinese to me. I don’t understand why patchbays have to be so complicated for such simple devices.
It really is the kind of device that clicks properly once you actually have one and can practice hands on.
My brother in smooth brained Christ… I feel the same way
@@NRVE8 it was definitely a hands on issue. Once I got the patch bay and made a diagram I got it all hooked up no problem. I didn’t expect to have to make 70 cables for it but hey, it was fun.
@@cbrooks0905 hell yeah now your studio looks like a spilled bowl of spaghetti
Not just you mate, every patch at tutorial video is about a story of their life and sped up patchbay setups and more long stories about how they plugged in all their gear without showing us
Just reminding you that you're doing great work as always, Kyle. Thanks!
Thank you!
Great information, I need to watch a few more times to get the basics down. Thanks!!
Just when I thought I knew everything....along comes Audio University....
Thanks, Jo! Glad you enjoyed this one!
This literally made more sense than my whole semester at school for Audio Engineering. GREAT VIDEO
That was a very clear explanation!
This is the vid I'm using to configure a Bittree TT. However, the TT bay is all Half Normal, so I'm putting through connections on a TRS bay. Tks.
Excellent video. Thanks
My best teacher👍, keep using your talent bro..
Thanks, ebor! Glad you’re enjoying the videos!
What’s the best way to plug in external instruments like synths? Would you still use a TRS cable? Or would standard TS cables work?
A TS instrument cable will work.
Wait a minute! TRS supports phantom power?! This changes everything 🤯
By the way I love your videos!
Yes. Just be careful not to connect or disconnect while phantom power is on. Thanks!
@@AudioUniversityso you take a xlr-trs into the patchbay, then trs-trs from the patch bay into the preamp or interface?
Super explanation. Thanks.
I own 2 Samson’s,
Great product!
Such a helpful video. Thanks for sharing. I'd love to see a video of you connecting an interface like an Apollo to a patchbay along with outboard gear. Keep up the great work
Thanks! This video might be helpful: th-cam.com/video/UEya4v50XF4/w-d-xo.html
Thank you!!@@AudioUniversity
Great video! This helped a ton with my new interface. Question for you though; I see you have your guitar amps in this chain which inspired me to do the same. however i get a TON of noise and even pickup a random radio channel if I am not playing. Any advice on what I can do to remove this? I have the samson S patch > guitar pedals > boss katana. thanks in advance!
Check out this video: th-cam.com/video/SjzmD7rDk-M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JMZTMK8RRDrN6A9D
Bless you! @@AudioUniversity
just one thing. the outputs are on the top and the inuts are the bottom row
Very helpful! Thank you.
Praise the lord brother
Thanks for your review
Thanks for another great video! For the FRONT panel of the patch bay are you using TRS or TS patch cables for each connection? Thanks
TRS patch cables. Thank you for watching!
I have a question, is it safe to put phantom power directly through the patchbay with all my other gear connected as well? In this case I have the Samson but I've read in forums that for connecting microphones directly into the patchbay you should really get a dedicated XLR patchbay. Thanks a lot for this brilliant information.
As long as phantom power is NOT engaged while connecting and disconnecting the mic, it should be ok. However, to be safe you can use an XLR panel instead for patching microphones.
@@AudioUniversity thank you!
Yo love your videos
Thank you!
@@AudioUniversity i have an ultra small room an old speaker, a bashed up mixer
How can i optimize sound here
It might be helpful to use headphones. But as long as you can learn what your room sounds like and how that translates to other systems, you’ll be ok.
@@AudioUniversity I'm still finding it difficult understand this video
@@AudioUniversity thanks
Overall, ive got a good sound
I just fight with feedback a lot
This is awesome but I have a question...At :24 you said the top row in the back are inputs and bottom rows were outputs..I thought it was the other way..outputs usually on top and inputs on the bottom...I'm probably wrong, but i'm thinking of the patch bay as an extension of what is being connected to it..can you clarify? Thanks so much
Could you clarify for me? Your boom mic for example that you showed; how is it going into the patch panel? Is it via a snake that converts to trs? I’m assuming you don’t just do all xlr to trs cables for your microphones?
That particular microphone is actually hard wired to the back of the panel with an XLR to TRS cable because it never gets disconnected. However, most mics patch to the XLR panel which is connected to the back of the patchbay.
What kind of cables to use for patchbay ? Because this has trs ports and most studios have xlr snake
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Thanks a lot for the video men! I have a question does patchbay makes you loose some DB? Because I have same as yours and I’m loosing 2db.
You might be having a balanced/unbalanced cabling issue
Amazing video!! One question.. I have an 8 channel mixer with only 2 stereo imput, and and want to connect all my keyboards at the same time to record, patchbay is a solution for that?
Thanks, David! A patchbay would allow you to use patch cables from the keyboard (jacks on the patchbay) to the stereo mixer input (jacks on the patchbay) instead of reaching behind the mixer/keyboards directly.
You can also use two mono channels on the mixer for each stereo keyboard.
My current situation unplugging replugging need one of these but I don’t understand how to setup the stereo stuff
Great video. Where did you get that template? Do you mind sharing it maybe?
That is the template for the Neutrik patch bay. It’s called PatchLabel. You can download it on the Neutrik NYS-SPP-L1 product page.
@@AudioUniversity Nice, thanks for the reply and keep up your great work. Cheers!
How about microphone inputs? I have been considering a patchbay for quite some time now because it's a real pain to always switch cables with my 2 in 4 out interface (SSL 2+). I have some synths, guitar fx pedals, a record player, a dj setup, etc. AND a Shure SM7b. How can I connect my XLR mic to the patch bay so that I can fully utilise my patchbay in the best way possible? Thanks in advance!!
Question! How do you get input one from the 18i20 to the patchbay? Would u have to connect the front Jack of the 18i20 to the back of the patchbay?
So do I need an xlr panel? My interface has only 4 in and 4 out. If I connect all of those ins and outs to my patchbay, where do I plug my mics in?
stupid question if i want to use a condenser mic wich needs phantom power and route it to a mic pre via the patch bay do i provide it with an external phantom power suply or ?
The TRS patchbays in this video can pass phantom power. Just make sure to disengage phantom power before connecting or disconnecting the mic on the patchbay.
Hi there, how can you use a jack patch bay with condenser microphones? I have an 18i20 too and I still can't fathom how you would use a patch bay for condenser mics. Would you just keep the two inputs at the front of the 18i20 spare for those mics?
The patchbay in this video can pass phantom power. Is phantom power your concern?
@@AudioUniversity yeah that's my concern. Could you explain what the cable chain would be please?
The microphone will connect to the patchbay with an XLR to TRS cable and the patchbay will connect to the interface with a TRS to XLR cable.
@@AudioUniversity excellent thank you for the reply. And it's the Samson patchbay that allows phantom power to go through?
Glad to help! Both the Samson and the Neutrik patchbay pass phantom power.
So, if I want to go with a patch bay I need to but a boatload of XLR to trs adapters for my microphones?
Rather than connecting the microphones directly to the patchbay, I’d recommend an XLR patch panel or XLR snake that is connected to the back of the patchbay.
Something like this: imp.i114863.net/YgMaGB
You will still need to either solder TRS connectors to that or use XLR to TRS adapters. The benefit is that the mic panel/snake is always connected to the patchbay so you can simply connect your mics to that panel with XLR cables.
Is this possible? I want to run a mixer into a patchbay that will have at least 6 synths. 3 of those synths can sample. I want to use the inputs of those devices through the patchbay. I then also want to individually connect 9 different FX Pedals in the patchbay so that I could connect which ever synth to the pedal or a series of pedals to record on my PC or one of the samplers. And finally, would it be easier to reroute the audio chain back to empty mixer channels, then out to my monitors? Or should I patch the monitors to the patchbay?
Hi do these patchbays have separate grounds, or is the ground shared for all connections via chasi?
What are some reasons to connnect my turntable to a patchbay?
This might be a real stupid question but how do you connect a xlr mic to a 1/4 Jack patchbay? And do you do the same thing for the xlr panel?
Just read a reply from you for one of the old comments and it totally answered my question about this and how you should use Xlr to Trs for a mic and how to connect a Xlr rack panel to a Trs patchbay with a Trs to xlr so thank you so much and I love your videos and you so thank you😊
Question
Are you using an XLR to male TRS for the mic? If so how is the phantom power getting to the mic ?
Thank you
Phantom power can travel through a TRS connector.
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Aren’t the top the outputs? You said inputs
Might've just been a mistake on your end, but the top jacks are typically outputs on patch bays, not inputs.
On the rear panel, they are inputs that correspond to the output jacks on the front panel.
…also: the neutrik plugs are shit and will harm your cables, the samson is just perfect!
(i also have both)
Why the f*** don't they make a rack mountable 16 point patchbay?
I have 8 more channels on my console that need to be patched in, but I don't need 48 freaking points!
I guess it would be ok to have extra room for more gear in the future, but my brain doesn't work like that lol. I don't like spending money on stuff I don't need yet.
(which is also why I've only used 24 of 32 channels for the last 8 years)