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Ever since Furina joined my Neuvillette Team, I never used any other healers than Dr. Baizhu. I am so glad that he is now up there with the greats in support!
Me too. I freely admit I was completely wrong about Baizhu. I thought he was an easy skip when he first came out. I only got him for the Neuvillette/Kazuha/Furina/Baizhu team and at C2S1 he's absolutely amazing. He went from someone I dismissed as mid, to being my favourite healer by miles. Healing the entire team for 18k off an E with 2 charges and 10s cooldown is incredible.
@@malificajones7674 The Genshin community had the same attitude towards Kazuha when he first came out. If you check Kazuha's sales on his initial banner run, It is one of the lowest. Now Kazuha is top tier.
Question for the OP.... I dont have baizhu but i do have xianyun(and altho her heals are inferior to baizhu, she can still cap my c0 Furina's fanfare quickly....) My question is that will my nuvi still be strong enough with this variation? Or do i need Baizhu specificly?
Gacha Gamer mentioning SevyPlays is a feels-good moment! been watching Sevy all the time, especially on her Abyss runs. She encourages me to tackle abyss and build my 4-star roster. She even managed to use Dori in abyss at some point and still manage to get 36 stars. Do check her abyss guide because she caters to mostly F2P and a low spender
No wonder they gave him that C1 or stripped a base kit feature into a C1 feature. That self sustainability makes him nearly a Neuvillette for boss chambers. Geo breakage? Got it. Healing? Got that too. Infinite aura? Got that.
@@flamezforthegamez1056 ye, many people compared him with Scara c1, with both of their capabilities as being a "full/complete unit" being locked with said c1, under the context of Hypercarry.... But Wrio as a unit is bonkers, if not broken, in and of itself along with Neuvi, even with c0's issues being alleviated with supports. But with c1? Said supports are but accessories now, or even overkill at certain cases that has timers.
8:36 We're just not gonna talk about Solo Wriothesley being in the Top 30? No? Okay. EDIT: ( 8:56) Okay, nevermind, he mentioned it. Still hilarious tho xD
@@joeltoomer3332 I didn't remember people saying Yao Yao was better, it was just that Yao Yao was free when Baizhu came out and worked well enough it most dendro teams. At the time, the most notable team for Baizhu was Cyno. Baizhu became more popular because of the meta shift, Furina wanted a healer and Fontaine units wanting the shield/heals as well. That and his off field presence became more desirable.
@@flipside9608 He became more popular but he was always a top tier unit even before furina. He has never been anything less than s tier when it comes to usage rates. Furina just pushed him further showcasing how unmatched he is when it came to his healing and defensive abilities.
i dont know how to feel about being part of that 3.8% of wriothesley owners using wrio against coppelia lol, i didnt even consider thay they would have cryo res 💀💀 36*ed the abyss cycle anyway so oh well
I think all wrio havers are lit so dedicated to him, even if we are a small group of people that own him it doesn't matter cus almost everyone who owns him uses him and invests into him like crazyyy
Baizhu has always been the goat people just slept on him bc”not waifu”. Furina basically just made him dendro Bennett/zhongli (through her own buffs ofc) but he will always be valuable due to how much utility he has like his seamless shield, team wide heal on skill, off field dendro with high uptime that works in multiwave, he’s brings more comfort than zhongli imo and never leaves my teams. Also he can heal your characters underwater when you collect items which is very useful in Fontaine exploration
and also his passive which literally boosts all dendro reactions based on his HP! got him early by accident cus i wanted kaveh but im so grateful i have him
Yess he’s got so much hate when released back then but im glad when Furina coming he’s more playable. He’s my best healer so far and very comfy in hyperbloom team
I'm waifu pulling but in this case it's just that I find dendro to be a boring element. I'm kinda glad as well that dendro has the least female waifu's in all of genshin. It's good for the boyband characters and gnome/lalfell/lollis too. Looking at you Nahida! Still, worst element for waifu pullers and if one doesn't even like the element as it's boring, I did mention that? haha yeah.. Hard pass on all. I'm grateful that there aren't any killer waifu's there!
WHAT KIND OF A MONSTER STRONG LEVEL IS OF THAT COMMUNITY WITH WRIO SOLOING ABYSS ON 28TH PLACE sorry for screaming he's just wow, im so amazed at his numbers whenever i see them, really enjoying my main boy
Oh how i looove seeing Baizhu getting the recognition he deserves I never understood the hate he got when he came out. Not only he got amazing lore in his own quest but also amazing team wide heals on skill. Now he became even more powerful. I am happy for you my sickly doctor❤️
Baizhu main here. Glad to see him get the recognition he deserves. Especially after the "Baizhu is just a 5 star Yaoyao" allegations i saw spreading when he first came out.
That claim confused me *so much* that I actually tried using Yaoyao to check the difference between them, and then was _still_ so confused by the comparison. Baizhu's teamwide heal is on his skill so every few seconds (or just whenever you take damage) you hit one button and everyone is topped, regardless of ER. Yaoyao is a burst healer like Barbara. The only things they have in common are element and healing. Why get Kokomi when Barbara also heals and applies hydro from off-field? Because Kokomi is just better. Almost no one who's built and used Baizhu would seriously compare them. I regret not getting constellations for him on his rerun, so I'm hoping the rumors are true and he gets another rerun during Fontaine. I want his C2, then I probably won't even have to bring him on field at all to heal everyone at all times. :p
Taser (Electrocharge) teams already exist and have existed for a long time. It has its niche since the reaction is only really good for dealing with groups of enemies, but it's really good. Though in modern Genshin, it's generally more effective to replace the double Electro with Shinobu and a Dendro and run Hyperbloom instead. Still, as long as you run Fischl, Electrocharge is a really easy and consistent team to run.
I cleared second half with Chiori and Ningguang supported by Furina and Bennett. I had so much fun using Ning after years and the team is surprisingly effective!
Wew its rare to see a fellow ning user! I run basically the same team except I use zhongli instead of chiori. I did the calc and seems like with chiori, ning’s personal damage will be lower but overall team damage will be higher than zhong li comp. I’m thinking about pulling for chiori because i only need a little more team damage to one rotation 12-3 chamber 2. However, I’m not sure if the geo resonance can hold up often enough as the geo shard shield will be significantly weaker and likely to break often with enermies like chamber 3. How was your experience without zhongli shield?
People sleep on baizhu when he can easily tank Raiden Shogun attack with just my timed Burst and Skill, and give them buffs with dendro reaction. 50k hp stats isnt even that hard to get and P Amber is super easy to get for any F2p player. Hoping I would get his C1 so i can summon double snek
HEALER CHARACTERS SUPREMACY!!! I am so glad Baizhu is seeing more usage - He’s a main stay on my teams and my go to healer in general- I love using him with my Furina - I love Baizhu and I supported him when all the naysayers said he wasn’t good- I swear I will defend Baizhu and Qiqi until the end of time. Baizhu is my healer for my main team /Burgeon Diluc team comp (Diluc, Dendro Traveler, Furina , and Baizhu)
I pulled Baizhu accidentally when trying to get Kaveh and have used him non-stop ever since. He makes the game so comfy and he's easy enough to build that I didn't have to worry about spending weeks farming artifacts. Haven't touched Kaveh in months though.
Seeing Baizhu's hype era is so nice. I used him on first half with my Cyno quickbloom team and I plan to use him with Neuvillette when I pull him next banner. But as a Xiao main, what really made me happy is that his teams are still in the top 10! I thought people would stop using him after last update but nope, he might be in the B tier of usage but then again, that's because a lot of people have him at this point. I used the Xiao Xianyun Faruzan Zhongli version on second half and he still works pretty well despite the lack of Furina or Benny. The inclusion of Xianyun is just that good for him
Baizhu is really good and comfy on aggravate/spread team. He has on demand team wide heals from skill, interupt resistance and further healing from burst, and dmg bonus for dendro reactions. A complete support package for dendro reaction teams.
I use baizhu every abyss. Hes my favorite healer to run with furina. I play coop a lot, and i dont see a lot of chioris, but when i do they are usually c6. Seems like a passion character for a lot of people.
Same for me, I rarely met chiori on co-op but when I did they are mostly c6. And looking at paimon moe pulls statistics, a lot of users who pulled for her go for her c6. it seems like just a whale bait character
@@SuperKOR246 how does that even work? a team like that has no field time left for alhaitham to even do anything. is your alhaitham a burst slave or somethign?
@GraveUypo There's plenty of field time for Alhaitham what do you mean. His damage comes from his mirrors which he's gets from his burst and skill. Nahida and baizhu don't need any field time barely.
i think the exact opposite. he is way overhyped, i pulled for him on the nahida banner because of the good things i heard and i regret it HARD. should've pulled c3 for furina instead.
@@GraveUypo overhyped? Oh you weren't there when the content creator, twitter and reddit users doomposted him to hell and it shows. They trashed him so bad just because he ain't a waifu. And he turns out fine, stellar even. And now look at him being the staple to both Furina and Furina-less Dendro team cuz of how good he is.
@@GraveUypo I agree, the only reason people use baizhu is skill issue furina or neuvullete, nahida with prototype amber can completely fill baizhu's role as a healer du to healing 24 percent max hp every 13.5 seconds so the main reason baizhu is beign used is due to neuvullete and not becasue he's acually good. In a sense baizhu is overhyped in this comment section and nahida overall is better.
@@xiahe6708still funny cuz people could just ask for some more endgame and maybe he can find some use there but nope let’s keep running abyss where nothing he brings is all that great
Yep, that was me. I thought he sucked, so skipped him on the first banner. But now I've got him at C2R1 for my Neuvilllette/Furina/Kazuha team and he's the Goat. Team healing for 18k off an E with 2 charges and only a 10s cooldown is insane.
I'm a sucker non-Meta or underestimated characters like Kokomi, Baizhu, Yae, and Chiori. Now, I'm happier that they are climbing up the ladder coz I intentionally got their C1s for future use since Day 1. Kokomi, Baizhu and Yae went to criticism during their releases but become part of a lot of teams today, Chiori before even released. My level 90 6-6-6 talent Chiori dealing 120K burst and 75k Upward sweep and 40k Eskill is so satisfying.
they did chiori dirty with 2 of the best meta units and arlecchino coming out, shes very good and the best geo support for either navia or itto, if you main them even at her worse c0 with navia works better than the other options
Absolutely. She doesn't snapshot neither she buffs. Again Itto it's still stuck with just 1 real support/-buffer and that it's Gorou which u need C6 to truly stand up. I'm a true believer that Geo will never shine unless u super invest
@@yakimlukanov6964 yeah, the weird thing is thanks to chiori not being buff dependant and having 100% uptime on dolls shes so good with itto, also building her is very very easy, you can just swap your trash gold relics for husk on the alchemy table and shes done, i didnt do troupe because is almost the same damage in E but ult damageis terrible by a lot and basics, on a construct geo team you can notice the difference by only putting her 2 dolls in so any itto mains will sure welcome her, im still missing her c1 but even on navias team she feels good to play c0, using the swap makes the doll attack right away and deal way more damage after the new character swapping attacks, is usually like 30k chiori skill damage + the doll twice and then navias shotgun to over 100k extra + the shotgun after with that combo, im really trying to pull c1 now for the second doll.
the fact that she doesn't have any buffing capability is what makes me don't see any value on her. I already got albedo since long time ago and felt like he is more than enough. his EM buff still useful for many reaction based team like aggravate, vape, melt, etc.
I cleared this abyss using : Baizhu Furina Neuvilette Shinobu and Xiangling Chiori(C1) Navia Bennett respectively! I can totally agree that the team comps are great and do a lot of work! Every character has been pulling their weight honestly The Neuvilette Hyperbloom actually works wonders even through Baizhu's low Dendro application since there's so much personal dmg on all the characters! I've been using it in the Abyss since Furina's banner pretty much as thankfully I was one of the "few" Baizhu enjoyers out there and still am. As for the Chiori Navia I think it still is quite the DPS increase to get the C1 in such a comp as otherwise I would've probably played Zhongli instead of Xiangling to get Chiori's dmg to her max potential, I really can't fathom her without both puppets.. Otherwise without Chiori you can just put Zhongli instead and this was pretty much my team comp for the other side to the Neuvi Hyperbloom.. However I'll add that honestly Baizhu has been a godsend ever since his arrival, saving my Cyno with the seamless shield and healing, then creating a Baizhu Xi-Be Lyney team and just in general serving as a good replacement for Zhongli! Both of these characters in my mind have about the same usefulness and one of these should be in most team comps for exploration imo.
Ayaka is so hard to use for me. She's not strong enough to not care for resistances and if the enemies can be frozen or not. I wanna use ayaka, shenhe, and kazuha team but I never get a chance to use her because she's built for freeze
Speaking of freeze teams. They are not so bad in first half if you can cut that resist from Copelia, I'd even say that in rooms 1 and 2 freeze is good. I used what I call "neo-Morgana": Kazuha (c0, r5 favonius), Furina (c0, r1 signature), Ganyu (c1, r1 amos), Charlotte (don't remember cons exactly, I believe c3 and event catalysts). Relatively premium setup but with only few constellations. First two rooms are easy walk, room 3 is a bit difficult, but mostly due to high incoming damage, dps is good enough thanks to anemo set on Kazuha and Ganyu's c1's resist cut.
i tryed losing 50/50 for chiori to try and get my final con for gorou, not only did i get her, but in 27 pulls i got C1. copium thinking they upped her rate because they know how bad her sales would be. but ya i get to be a haver of not needing a construct for her. the one i was expecting to show higher is gaming, hes a strong vap/melt user on bosses. anyone who has xianyun definitely has him and the way i got him built, hes doing 200k+ per plunge and the team is doing well over 1mil dmg per rotation, and i only got C5. only downside to my team is vary much prone to exploding, idk how many times i swap to xianyun and she just flopped over because of the right timing, bin fun though.
I think u should swith kazuha with yelan/furina, they’re great for hyperbloom and both burst give u dmg boost buth if u using furina u must have a healer at least
YES, an abyss team analysis every cycle/banner change sounds like a good idea and also as a Chiori puller, i run shatter team with Ayato, its not about the meta, its about getting a new toy to playtest with. also Baizhu is very comfy for neuvillou team especially if ur first dendro applier is nahida because she can provide great off field dendro but not continuous reapply on new enemy. and also neuvi eats those dendro apply from nahida way too fast so baizhu with his shield and slower dendro apply is pretty useful in that specific scenario.
wait chiori is popular in CHIORI MADE ABYSS? u cant say anything about meta in genshin cuz every abyss is characrter specific at this point they are trying too hard to sell a characrter
My Raiden/Xiangling/Chevy/Bennet absolutely slaps! It's currently my best team along with Keqing hyperbloom with Furina /Nahida/Baizhu Edit: Keqing 'quickbloom', she's built standard aggravate Thundering Fury.
9:17 just a small correction, an enemy only has to be *AFFECTED* by Cryo to get the 15% Cryo Resonance crit rate buff, not necessarily Frozen. That's just Blizzard Strayer. so you would still get the 15% crit rate.
Wrio stans we stand to acknowledge the efforts of the brave soldiers who fought in the solo abyss wars and the many blessings their efforts have brought to hs May we all one day join their ranks
I cleared the second half of this abys with Navia Xianyun Furina and c0 Chiori. Absolutely love this team! Previously I used Zhongli in this team, which is also great
for abyss i tried many time and with the limited characted i have the most efective(eazy not complicated meta) team would be: first half: Nahida, yelan, furina, kuki(I use furina here not only for dmg but to use hear overheal at dancing robot, as long you not dying hyperbloom dmg is enough to end it easily) second half: you can manage with Raiden,xinque, xiangling,bennet (for last geo robot using elemental skill bennet and raiden to overload and plunging attack will be faster)
9:30 i generally don't like the sevy 4star clears, mainly cause in my account, i can clearly see the investment difference. Its also the same case with iwintolose's all 4 star clears. Its actually why i personally 36* it myself with a true f2p all 4-star clear. By far, these all 4-star teams is the most comfy for me to clear even with less investment. First half: - Kuki, Sucrose, DMC, Xingqiu Second half: - Bennett, Fischl, Xiangling, Ningguang (This is supposed to be a chevreuse team but i don't have chevreuse, Ningguang feels the most comfy replacement from all my testing even when she's only at lvl 70)
My favorite teams for this cycle are variations of taser in first side (in particular, Raiden/Yae/Fischl + Venti/Kazuha + Furina + Kokomi) and either chevrouse teams or navia teams for second side.
Usage rates are NOT META!!! If random player makes such a mistake it's already disappointing, cause you need just a little bit of thinking to understand it. But content creator and one that is an old veteran? SHAME. Ok, what I see next... Reading data... ohh my... badly. If Baizhu has much smaller ownership then his % of usage rate means LESS than in case of a character with higher ownership - Yelan, even - than character that is simply older. It should be made clear. This comparison was very misleading. I see we are not ending here yet... Chiori for Navia... is a surprise? Really? c0 Chiori without construct still can be better than Albedo. Besides, what other options for crystalize you have? Zhongli? If you need shield, sure, most of the time it would be better to go with more offensive options - Chiori and then Furina plus healer, or just Benny - Xiangling. It's so simple, what is here to be surprised about?... Ok, I have enough, only last thing... freeze teams being countered in every recent Abyss? Are you even serious or you repeat thoughtlessly never ending myths that freeze is falling off? You know when was the last time freeze was amazing? Umm... It was previous Abyss. For some reason many people keep repeating such nonsense for such a long time, while freeze is top strong and popular again and again. Not in every Abyss, sure. So what, it's the same with many other options. Some fact to balance this BS - Venti is TOP strong for this Abyss. He shines in this Abyss similarly like Zhongli. Check my account if you want proof. And now look at usage rates... There, that's how much usage rates are different from META.
I actually used my Noelle team for the first time ever on the second half and she popped off. She was only level 80 at the time (since I never got around to lv 90ing her, but she was fully built) she is now level 90 and ready for the next cycle.
I played for the last abyss on the first part : Nilou/Baizhu/Candace/Nahida and for the second part : Nahida/Kokomi/Furina/Chiori and it was FIRE, don't understimate any character in Genshin, they're all strong and fun ! :D
For the Neuv, Furina, Baizhu core and the knights, another simple reason is that Neuv with Furina buffs just deletes those guys. Most things can be solved with the proper application of violence, and this is definitely one of them. Heck, I threw my double geo team at it, so lots of crystalize shields, but it doesn't matter, because when you have 3 characters doing high off-field damage, plus Navia to explain to knights why full plate armor went out of fashion with the advent of guns, well, yeah... I ran the Abyss with this team in the second half originally, before trying it again with the teams flipped, and the dual geo team will be doing the top half, rather than the bottom on subsequent resets. As to Baizhu, I think he's like Jean. He's always been fine, but the opportunity cost of using of using him was a bit high. Now we have Furina, who is just that good, and therefore changes that opportunity cost equation. As to C1 Chiori usage, she was the second geo in that comp I mentioned and she has her C1 (and also c2). If I wasn't going to get the C1, I wouldn't have bothered getting her at all. I pulled Albedo on his OG banner, and without her c1, she'd just be a side grade. And one I wouldn't even bother using, the same way I don't use Albedo. At that level of performance, the character isn't one you use because the team wants the character, but rather, because they are the least bad option you have access to (or because you just want to use them, of course... always a great reason to use a character).
The site used in this video as a reference isn't really a good reference if you ask me. Because not only the sample size isn't exactly big enough, but also because of how it collect samples, it allows people to do something like, quite literally boosting a characters usage rate (by putting neuvillette with 3 of their favorite characters and let neuvillette do all the work, or like the solo wriothesley etc) So yeah this site isn't exactly a good reference. I would recommend anyone who're watching this video to take in pretty much anything that comes out of this site as a giant grain of salt Despite that, it still brings up some interesting topic for us to discuss about. Like baizhu, freeze, overload, and heck even neuvillette First let's talk about baizhu. I explicitly remember some "theorycrafter" say that he's a side grade to yao yao. Which, if I'm being honest is quite a dumb statement to make when his advantages is quite obvious, and also pretty big compared to yao yao. First of all, his teamwide healing is behind his elemental skill, whereas for yao yao it's her burst If that wasn't a big enough advantage, allow me to remind you that yao yao need to stay on field in order to do that. Not to mention baizhu's elemental application while isn't more than yao yao by a lot, it sure is way better than yao yao because of how you lose application if yuegui hits you instead of the enemies. Not to mention he actually gives a paper shield that act as a temporary interruption immunity buff, which yao yao cannot do. On top of that his application follows you around unlike yuegui. So yeah it's not really a surprise he ended up being way better than just a "side grade" to yao yao For freeze team, they've really managed to make freeze team feels bad to play. Not only they keep adding enemies with freeze resistance (that stay frozen shorter than others), they also made the dancer boss have high cryo resistance while being a boss, and let the boss basically bought a house in abyss at this point. Yeah, it feels bad to be a freeze player nowadays For overload however it's a completely different situation. Not only have we been getting more and more enemies with high interruption resistance, they are also appearing in duo more often now. Not only these type of enemies are slowly replacing the typical trash mobs that you can easily group with kazuha, they also made boss rush a reality now which wasn't thought to be possible back then. Like, if you tell me a year ago that the devs will put 3 bosses on one side, I'd be laughing at you. But now... Yeah On top of that, this abyss specifically doesn't only benefit overload in making up with it's weakness, it also rewards you for using overload as well. Like first chamber, the chicken would release the spore attack if applied too much pyro, and release a charging attack that not only run you down, but also run away from you which causes a lot of time waste if you apply too much electro. By using overload you'd get neither of those because pyro would remove the electro and vice versa. Adding to that the third chamber has a geo shield which a lot of people forget, that you can actually break relatively quickly with overload It's interesting how neither freeze nor overload was nerfed or buffed directly, but by releasing new characters and new enemies changes how well it perform entirely. So yeah, when will they actually make crystalize better? Last but not least let's talk about neuvillette. His addition to the game isn't exactly a... healthy one if you ask me. You see, not only this character has way lower (arguably the lowest) skill ceiling than other characters, he also has some of the biggest increase from his constellations. Typically constellations wouldn't be that big of a deal for f2p players because it's not easily accessible, but in neuvillette's case they gave him a ridiculously powerful constellation and decided to put it at C1. Which is easily obtainable even for the f2p. Because it's literally just one more five star An existence like him not only has inflated the power level of the entire roster (not exactly a powercreep so I decided to call it inflation instead) which makes pretty much every single on field dps ever completely worthless to pull for (note, not worthless to use but worthless to pull for), his existence also made team building, understanding game's mechanic, study enemies moves etc etc a complete joke. Because why waste your time on building a perfect team, when you can just put neuvillette and 3 random characters and call it a day (which also creates the problem of making usage rate a joke)? Why learn how the game work when you can just go kamehameha and spin to win? Why learn enemies attack pattern when you can just stand there and hydro pump the shit out of your enemies? While yes, he requires his C1R1 in order to be game breaking. But it isn't entirely out of the questions for most players. Because you can well you know, save up and get his C1 at least. But still having a C1 character being effectively the equivalent of old C6 characters, is such a dumb idea. I'd rather they make the C0 better than old characters, but the improvement from constellations remain the same (like about 10%~15% dmg increase and not much mechanical improvement). Because now we're in the state where if you ever decide to pull for an on field dps (which typically already have low pull value to begin with), why would you ever pull for anyone that's not neuvillette if you're looking for power? Because of that I want to remind everyone of you who're reading this, if you ever decide to pull for an on field dps, pull for the ones you like. Yeah, I'm not recommending to brainlessly pull for neuvillette. Because if neuvillette can happen once, it definitely can happen twice. So don't ever pull for an on field dps character based purely out of power. Because it won't get you anywhere Also, with how easy he is to play while being so dominant in performance, it would make learning the game mechanics etc not worthwhile because you can always just pull for a character like him and go brrrrr. So yeah, combined with what I said about him prior it's why I think he's such an unhealthy addition to the game Anyway thanks for reading. Remember, if you don't like neuvillette you don't need to pull for him. On field dps is only worth it when you like them. Always prioritize supports instead
This video is just nonsense, starting with - usage rates are NOT META, simple. I added my own comment pointing out a few worst problems of this video. You are right about Baizhu. There are clear reasons why he wasn't popular on his release, it shouldn't be surprising. Like simply coming at the end of Sumeru that was crowded with dendro characters. As for TC you are mentioning - Zagenda77 is terrible disingenuous purposefully misleading CC, so yeah. I don't really agree about freeze. It was slaying like always in previous Abyss. In current one also can work well enough if you stun Coppelia with arkhe. Not mentioning freeze annihilates first two chambers. For some reasons people are exaggerating problems of freeze teams, for a very long time telling - ohh, it fallen off... while it comes back as top strong and popular again and again. I'm tired of hearing same stories how Hoyo made Abyss hard for freeze... since start of Sumeru, LOL. As for Neuvi - yes, you are much right and it should be clear as day. Only I want to add - that his kit is very interesting and unique concept, plus one that potentially would require fairly good skill expression. It's mainly just no limitation of the speed of turning that makes it broken and his interesting design ruined. It's not even about crazy spinning, that's just an extremum. Also - he is gamebreaking already at c0 plus Prototype Amber. His range-AoE is absolutely gamebreaking.
Dude, stop yapping. Everyone knows that these stats are from a specific subset of the playerbase. It doesn’t matter though. It’s still interesting to look at them and comment on them.
@@books2438 Nope, video is terrible and misleading. You missed the point. Also no, you can expect from Genshin players everything, but understanding data.
@@MarionFR Nope, the video is just one guy discussing his thoughts and observations in a light hearted conversation. That’s entirely fine. You need help if you think that’s a problem
I used Chiori - Navia in my team, my Chiori is c0, it doesn't matter, as more cristalized reaction is much appreciated. and her tapestry deals quite a bit of damage anyway.
Baizhu was my first limited 5* pull. Even skipped Nahida for him. No regrets, best healer in the game. I consider him a Zhongli-level defensive unit. Geo daddy for shields, snake daddy for heals, one for each team.
9:44 Zhongli never stopped being relevant. He has always been one of the most used characters ever since his buffs. Almost always hovering around 60%+ usage rate. His lowest usage rate was 51% which is still massive.
Thanks to Noelle being more relevant nowaday I almost never use Zhongli anymore. He is nice and very comfy when needed for team like Melt Ganyu or Yoimiya etc where you don't need more dmg but want comfort, but if I want a tanky team id rather run Noelle, Furina, Albedo and flex slot. Noelle turn the current abyss into a joke with her spin to win combo in first half and either double hydro or Xianyun plunge on 2nd half, she clear the geo shield super quick and she is strong enough to kill it within 2 rotation using 4 star weapon
I never liked Baizhu and I really don't get why people batchest him. His dendro is garbage, his shield is garbage "oww but it's how it's supposed to be it's the gimmick" no, it's just bad. It's not protecting you from sh1t and his healing sometimes is not enough. No to mention how much of a dps loss he is. So I wouldn't even go for him for "comfort". Even in his "best teams" like Cyno and Neuv, remove him in favor of Kuki and Zhongli and it'll just be better. "oww your Baizhu is bad" no he is not, he is invested enough and he feels like ass. Not even Furina is enough to save his a$s for me.
wait is the Kuki and Zhongli Variant better than Baizhu? cause i thought the highest damaging cyno team uses baizhu as the defensive option since he slightly and i mean slightly helps cyno for multiwave. since deepwood feels like an unreliable set on him and that can hurt cyno's hyperbloom damage.
Well for Cyno IIRC the Baizhu variant is strong good especially due to being able to use Furina as well. But IMO Baizhu is sometimes a bit overrated, especially when people start throwing him into any team that needs a healer (Neuvillette in particular). The only time I use him myself is in aggravate where is very comfy and not a damage loss.
@@aerohydra3849 i kinda wish we get a better thoma that also heals so that i can play bain marie with nahida on PTA since Baizhu's buffs honestly means nothing for Wrio, like it would be nice if Wrio's melts are also buffed by nahida's EM boost. and his off field dendro app is kinda dogsh*t.
If Baizhu’s healing isn’t enough for you I think you have a skill issue. Like, actually, how the fuck. There isn’t a single healer in this game other than him that will get you max fanfare stacks on SKILL, not even burst
as someone who likes to play in the abyss, here are some of the teams i used so far: furina noelle gorou yunjin furina noelle gorou navia furina noelle gorou xianyun furina noelle fischl beidou furina noelle bennet yunjin (vape noelle, w/o using noelle's burst) furina noelle albedo chiori gorou noelle albedo fischl gorou noelle albedo chiori (a few other noelle teams i'm tired of listing them) furina itto gorou bennet Zhongli Itto xiangling bennet furina navia gorou bennet mona navia gorou bennet mona navia zhongli bennet chev raiden sara bennet nahida raiden sara furina nahida raiden sara barbara furina eula zhongli bennet baizhu keqing furina fischl baizhu keqing beidou fischl yaoyao keqing furina fischl furina neuvillette zhongli ganyu furina neuvillette zhongli fischl furina neuvillette zhongli beidou furina neuvillette kazuha ganyu beidou neuvillette fischl baizhu furina diluc xianyun bennet furina gaming xianyun bennet nahida keqing fischl beidou nahida nilou barbara yaoyao nahida nilou xingqiu yaoyao there's more probably. i test a bunch of variations to compare them and find which one works best.i would say for side one the furina itto gorou bennet team is performing stupidly good because the rotations fit perfectly with the spawns, and itto is great at controlling the two local legend girls. he can two-cycle that chamber in less than 40 seconds (two rotations) and i wasn't even speed running and had a useless buff. noelle can do 40 or less too but it's much harder with her because the stupid girls keep getting away. neuvillette is wonky, but if i use fall damage to your advantage he can probably do it under 40 seconds too (not that i've managed to do it, or tried to begin with) out of these i think my worst team was nahida keqing fischl beidou. it was just trash. it only worked because side 2 is so damn easy to do fast that i could take over 2 minutes on side one and still win with whatever team i had on the other side.
I've been using Neuvillete, Furina, Fischl and Sucrose in every abyss. It's really insane fast clear as long as they are not immune to hydro. Used it first half of abyss and just hyperbloom the 2nd side for an easy clear lol
It just goes to show just because the top creators says X is better than Y doesnt make it true. Things can look so good on a spreadsheet or a screenshot but none of that matters if it feels like a pain to get those numbers consistently. I alway prefered someone that made me comfortably clear than someone that got me the biggest numbers possible.
Yeah it feels like abyss since the start of Fontaine, has just been rigged against freeze teams. There is always some pesky enemy that makes them not optimal. Like i have Ayaka/Shenhe both with their signature weapons and i have not used either once on floor 12 since we got to Fontaine.
It's not that weird for Baizhu, whales and Abyss speed demons have been using him since release. His use has been up since Fontaine released. Zhongli+Chiori+Bennet/Chevreuse+ Navia = GeoKaboom. Her dolls are menaces.
I'm surprised that Navia Chiori Yelan Bennett comp isn't mentioned in the top Navia Chiori teams. This team has super smooth rotations and it's actually satisfying to use then together, unlike all those other teams. It's kinda annoying if you don't bring a full party healer with Furina, and since Bennett is so good with Navia, you don't wanna seperate them. And playing Xiangling is so annoying cause she needs way too much er even with Bennett in these teams for smooth rotations. Plus she takes Bennett uptime. But I 100% vouch for Yelan Bennett Chiori Navia. The buff uptimes and everything else aligns perfectly too - highly recommend y'all to try it in the current abyss. Sidenote: Xingqiu works really well as a replacement as well!
Ever since Zhongli I’ve always wanted to have a character who is Geo and uses a bow who acts as the teams main dps. That is my top type of character I want to have while my hopes and prayers for pyro traveler being a main dps is number 2.
one more reason for high furina and neuv usage was that the last gravity boss gets stunned due to neuv 'e' for 10 whole seconds or heal mode furina charged attacked, i was able to 36 star only cuz of that
for me, the easiest comps to clear this abyss by a LARGE margin are: for the first part: neuvillette, baizhu, furina and kazuha or yae, furina, nahida and jean (i am not joking, the difference was 5 seconds in every chamber, in the first one yae beat neuvillette because you can make jean succ the agents and making them stuck in the air while the rest of the team annihilate the enemies) for the second part: navia, zhongli, xiangling and bennet, i can't compare to anyone because it is not even close, the only boss to actually last more than 30s with my navia was the cube lookin motherfucker, the damage gate takes way too much time, btw my navia is c0 and using r5 serpent spine, if you can't do the same thing with your navia, try counting the geo crystals on the ground and how many stacks your navia has, if it adds up to 6 or more, you shoot, and never start any rotation without her ultimate, you will get 300k ish hits every time if you do that
This is why I was never really concerned about powercrept in genshin (except for neuvillete), because HYV have track record of not buffing or nerfing character like other gacha games but instead make ”Enemy” to buff and nerf their units or make the environment favor certain archetype, yes it sucks when you don’t have that certain units or archetype, but that’s practically the same if they would nerf your unit into oblivion and buff those you don’t have, at least this way it only affects spiral abyss and not other content
I would like to say that your comment of "you can clear this abyss with some f2p teams, sevy did it" is very very misleading, sevy is very good at the game and those 4-stars are c6 with fully refined good 4-star weapons, not to mention that one of the teams is sucrose national, a very strong team at c6, AND it's not like she clears the chambers with more than a minute to spare which would mean others have some wiggleroom, it's only around 15-20 seconds, most people that could need the "4-star f2p" options have c0's, don't have the weapons or badly refined versions, and are worse at the game, they can not do the same thing. Granted the hyperbloom team is easier to get going and could be a good second team in some abysses once you get of the ground to get some stars, but it's not a free win.
Furina + Neuvillette have been my most overpowered team ever since I got them both. Neuvillete is just causally putting out 46k damage per CA hit and that's not even counting Furina's damage. Nearly any healer works. Jean got her comeback in that team for me.
I'm glad Geo finally become meta spot this time, I don't invest Geo team yet but I have C6 Yunjin and C5 Gorou. I still don't know what dps to choose cuz most of them gameplay are quite slow for my taste, except Chiori I guess.
For this abyss i used Kazuha(c2), Bennett(c6), XianYun, Furina(c2) first half And Tighnari, Baizhu, Nahida, Raiden (all c0) second half Had fun trying to break the geo guy's shield with Raiden's plunge attacks lmao But i managed it with 36 stars (C2 Furina probably carried tho)
they are really desperate not to miss a centavo. lol. but yeah, they can make underrated chars up to meta and vice versa. they are always 2 steps ahead from criticism. Yoimiya, Kokomi, Yae, Kuki, Baizhu, Chiori.
I always had great impression of Baizhu in gameplay coz Dendro-healer is always good... Though i didn't personally rolled for him, just used him on events that uses trial characters... Chiori though, I'm still disappointed of her kit that don't even feel bad failing her (already lost 50/50 on her banner, and i rather save the guarantee for Arlecchino)
I like this video type. When it comes to data, I'd be curious to see NA server stats, or a pool of data that includes ALL abyss clears, not just 36 stars. Some people, even with a good account, only get 3 or 6 stars in floor twelve, and I think it'd be interesting to see what else people choose.
honestly suprised noelle isnt there at all, especially considering the need for geo, healing, and damage, especially so considering not a lot of people own baizhu
Unless there's corrosion, Zhongli will always be high usage for people who want to clear comfortably and have the raw DPS to do it. They just don't want to dodge annoying attacks.
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Using it right now. As meta goes. All I need is a Furina and Neuvillette...
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have been using for years. It's a blast!
Ever since Furina joined my Neuvillette Team, I never used any other healers than Dr. Baizhu. I am so glad that he is now up there with the greats in support!
Me too. I freely admit I was completely wrong about Baizhu. I thought he was an easy skip when he first came out.
I only got him for the Neuvillette/Kazuha/Furina/Baizhu team and at C2S1 he's absolutely amazing.
He went from someone I dismissed as mid, to being my favourite healer by miles.
Healing the entire team for 18k off an E with 2 charges and 10s cooldown is incredible.
@@malificajones7674 I have C0 with Regalia R1. Pulled him during his release and never regretted getting him.
@@malificajones7674
The Genshin community had the same attitude towards Kazuha when he first came out. If you check Kazuha's sales on his initial banner run, It is one of the lowest. Now Kazuha is top tier.
Question for the OP....
I dont have baizhu but i do have xianyun(and altho her heals are inferior to baizhu, she can still cap my c0 Furina's fanfare quickly....)
My question is that will my nuvi still be strong enough with this variation? Or do i need Baizhu specificly?
@@alyx5825 yes because Xianyun can integrate both VV shred and heals which Neuvi both utilizes.
Gacha Gamer mentioning SevyPlays is a feels-good moment! been watching Sevy all the time, especially on her Abyss runs. She encourages me to tackle abyss and build my 4-star roster. She even managed to use Dori in abyss at some point and still manage to get 36 stars. Do check her abyss guide because she caters to mostly F2P and a low spender
That solo wrio at 28
Yeah I was about to comment too 😂
"Nah, I'd win"
Wriothesley, probably
c1r1 or c6r1 wrio mains: supports? nah...
No wonder they gave him that C1 or stripped a base kit feature into a C1 feature. That self sustainability makes him nearly a Neuvillette for boss chambers. Geo breakage? Got it. Healing? Got that too. Infinite aura? Got that.
@@flamezforthegamez1056 ye, many people compared him with Scara c1, with both of their capabilities as being a "full/complete unit" being locked with said c1, under the context of Hypercarry.... But Wrio as a unit is bonkers, if not broken, in and of itself along with Neuvi, even with c0's issues being alleviated with supports. But with c1? Said supports are but accessories now, or even overkill at certain cases that has timers.
8:36 We're just not gonna talk about Solo Wriothesley being in the Top 30? No? Okay. EDIT: ( 8:56) Okay, nevermind, he mentioned it. Still hilarious tho xD
Baizhu 🤝 Kokomi:
Beating the Fraud Allegations
I still remember when people said Yao Yao of all people was better than baizhu lol
@@joeltoomer3332 and Now he is the healer for the best dps in the meta😅😅
Pulled both in their 1st banners😎
@@joeltoomer3332 I didn't remember people saying Yao Yao was better, it was just that Yao Yao was free when Baizhu came out and worked well enough it most dendro teams. At the time, the most notable team for Baizhu was Cyno.
Baizhu became more popular because of the meta shift, Furina wanted a healer and Fontaine units wanting the shield/heals as well. That and his off field presence became more desirable.
@@flipside9608 He became more popular but he was always a top tier unit even before furina. He has never been anything less than s tier when it comes to usage rates. Furina just pushed him further showcasing how unmatched he is when it came to his healing and defensive abilities.
i dont know how to feel about being part of that 3.8% of wriothesley owners using wrio against coppelia lol, i didnt even consider thay they would have cryo res 💀💀 36*ed the abyss cycle anyway so oh well
Same, at least we aren't alone
@@dovelay wriothesley havers are forever wriothesley users 🙏🙏
I think all wrio havers are lit so dedicated to him, even if we are a small group of people that own him it doesn't matter cus almost everyone who owns him uses him and invests into him like crazyyy
@@rhyss1168that is so true. I use him everywhere at any time possible.
Same he just works
Baizhu has been my most worthwhile pull in this game. I'm happy to see him getting the respect he deserves.
Baizhu has always been the goat people just slept on him bc”not waifu”. Furina basically just made him dendro Bennett/zhongli (through her own buffs ofc) but he will always be valuable due to how much utility he has like his seamless shield, team wide heal on skill, off field dendro with high uptime that works in multiwave, he’s brings more comfort than zhongli imo and never leaves my teams. Also he can heal your characters underwater when you collect items which is very useful in Fontaine exploration
I got him day 1 early last year on his first release. I was so confused when ppl were calling him a Yaoyao side-grade like wtf lmao
and also his passive which literally boosts all dendro reactions based on his HP! got him early by accident cus i wanted kaveh but im so grateful i have him
Yess he’s got so much hate when released back then but im glad when Furina coming he’s more playable. He’s my best healer so far and very comfy in hyperbloom team
I'm waifu pulling but in this case it's just that I find dendro to be a boring element. I'm kinda glad as well that dendro has the least female waifu's in all of genshin. It's good for the boyband characters and gnome/lalfell/lollis too. Looking at you Nahida! Still, worst element for waifu pullers and if one doesn't even like the element as it's boring, I did mention that? haha yeah.. Hard pass on all. I'm grateful that there aren't any killer waifu's there!
i always love utility character , baizu is my favorite , especially when furina release😊
WHAT KIND OF A MONSTER STRONG LEVEL IS OF THAT COMMUNITY WITH WRIO SOLOING ABYSS ON 28TH PLACE sorry for screaming he's just wow, im so amazed at his numbers whenever i see them, really enjoying my main boy
Fun fact
You can do t with just c2 and an f2p weapon
You just gotta know your rots and invest properly
Oh how i looove seeing Baizhu getting the recognition he deserves
I never understood the hate he got when he came out. Not only he got amazing lore in his own quest but also amazing team wide heals on skill. Now he became even more powerful. I am happy for you my sickly doctor❤️
Baizhu main here. Glad to see him get the recognition he deserves. Especially after the "Baizhu is just a 5 star Yaoyao" allegations i saw spreading when he first came out.
That claim confused me *so much* that I actually tried using Yaoyao to check the difference between them, and then was _still_ so confused by the comparison. Baizhu's teamwide heal is on his skill so every few seconds (or just whenever you take damage) you hit one button and everyone is topped, regardless of ER. Yaoyao is a burst healer like Barbara. The only things they have in common are element and healing. Why get Kokomi when Barbara also heals and applies hydro from off-field? Because Kokomi is just better. Almost no one who's built and used Baizhu would seriously compare them. I regret not getting constellations for him on his rerun, so I'm hoping the rumors are true and he gets another rerun during Fontaine. I want his C2, then I probably won't even have to bring him on field at all to heal everyone at all times. :p
Hoyos really making useless reactions like overload and crystallise meta rn. We''ll probably get a burning meta down the line eventually.
The Burning artifact will be at v4.6 looking forward for using it BUT yeah that electro-charged meta should be also a thing 😅
we ALREADY had a electro charged and its pretty damn good, what are ya talking about
sucrose tazer is a thing what are you talking about?
I love overload ☠️
Taser (Electrocharge) teams already exist and have existed for a long time. It has its niche since the reaction is only really good for dealing with groups of enemies, but it's really good. Though in modern Genshin, it's generally more effective to replace the double Electro with Shinobu and a Dendro and run Hyperbloom instead. Still, as long as you run Fischl, Electrocharge is a really easy and consistent team to run.
I cleared second half with Chiori and Ningguang supported by Furina and Bennett. I had so much fun using Ning after years and the team is surprisingly effective!
Wew its rare to see a fellow ning user! I run basically the same team except I use zhongli instead of chiori. I did the calc and seems like with chiori, ning’s personal damage will be lower but overall team damage will be higher than zhong li comp. I’m thinking about pulling for chiori because i only need a little more team damage to one rotation 12-3 chamber 2. However, I’m not sure if the geo resonance can hold up often enough as the geo shard shield will be significantly weaker and likely to break often with enermies like chamber 3. How was your experience without zhongli shield?
People sleep on baizhu when he can easily tank Raiden Shogun attack with just my timed Burst and Skill, and give them buffs with dendro reaction. 50k hp stats isnt even that hard to get and P Amber is super easy to get for any F2p player.
Hoping I would get his C1 so i can summon double snek
HEALER CHARACTERS SUPREMACY!!! I am so glad Baizhu is seeing more usage - He’s a main stay on my teams and my go to healer in general- I love using him with my Furina - I love Baizhu and I supported him when all the naysayers said he wasn’t good- I swear I will defend Baizhu and Qiqi until the end of time. Baizhu is my healer for my main team /Burgeon Diluc team comp (Diluc, Dendro Traveler, Furina , and Baizhu)
Same lol. I was a former Qiqi main until Baizhu came 🤣
I pulled Baizhu accidentally when trying to get Kaveh and have used him non-stop ever since. He makes the game so comfy and he's easy enough to build that I didn't have to worry about spending weeks farming artifacts. Haven't touched Kaveh in months though.
Seeing Baizhu's hype era is so nice. I used him on first half with my Cyno quickbloom team and I plan to use him with Neuvillette when I pull him next banner. But as a Xiao main, what really made me happy is that his teams are still in the top 10! I thought people would stop using him after last update but nope, he might be in the B tier of usage but then again, that's because a lot of people have him at this point. I used the Xiao Xianyun Faruzan Zhongli version on second half and he still works pretty well despite the lack of Furina or Benny. The inclusion of Xianyun is just that good for him
Baizhu is really good and comfy on aggravate/spread team.
He has on demand team wide heals from skill, interupt resistance and further healing from burst, and dmg bonus for dendro reactions.
A complete support package for dendro reaction teams.
I use team Wanderer.
I use baizhu every abyss. Hes my favorite healer to run with furina. I play coop a lot, and i dont see a lot of chioris, but when i do they are usually c6. Seems like a passion character for a lot of people.
Same for me, I rarely met chiori on co-op but when I did they are mostly c6. And looking at paimon moe pulls statistics, a lot of users who pulled for her go for her c6. it seems like just a whale bait character
Baizhu has never left my Alhaitham team. He’s so comfy to play that I haven’t used Nahida in abyss for months now
Just use both 😏
@@MrClaus. Right? My Alhaitham team consists of Baizhu, Nahida and Yae Miko and i6 slaps
@@SuperKOR246 how does that even work? a team like that has no field time left for alhaitham to even do anything. is your alhaitham a burst slave or somethign?
nahida teams do 17 percent more dps due to personal damage er generation and em for alhaitham
@GraveUypo There's plenty of field time for Alhaitham what do you mean. His damage comes from his mirrors which he's gets from his burst and skill. Nahida and baizhu don't need any field time barely.
Baizhu is literally so good, but everyone decides to underestimate him
i think the exact opposite. he is way overhyped, i pulled for him on the nahida banner because of the good things i heard and i regret it HARD. should've pulled c3 for furina instead.
@@GraveUypo overhyped? Oh you weren't there when the content creator, twitter and reddit users doomposted him to hell and it shows. They trashed him so bad just because he ain't a waifu. And he turns out fine, stellar even. And now look at him being the staple to both Furina and Furina-less Dendro team cuz of how good he is.
@@GraveUypo I agree, the only reason people use baizhu is skill issue furina or neuvullete, nahida with prototype amber can completely fill baizhu's role as a healer du to healing 24 percent max hp every 13.5 seconds so the main reason baizhu is beign used is due to neuvullete and not becasue he's acually good. In a sense baizhu is overhyped in this comment section and nahida overall is better.
@@xiahe6708still funny cuz people could just ask for some more endgame and maybe he can find some use there but nope let’s keep running abyss where nothing he brings is all that great
Yep, that was me. I thought he sucked, so skipped him on the first banner.
But now I've got him at C2R1 for my Neuvilllette/Furina/Kazuha team and he's the Goat.
Team healing for 18k off an E with 2 charges and only a 10s cooldown is insane.
I'm a sucker non-Meta or underestimated characters like Kokomi, Baizhu, Yae, and Chiori. Now, I'm happier that they are climbing up the ladder coz I intentionally got their C1s for future use since Day 1. Kokomi, Baizhu and Yae went to criticism during their releases but become part of a lot of teams today, Chiori before even released. My level 90 6-6-6 talent Chiori dealing 120K burst and 75k Upward sweep and 40k Eskill is so satisfying.
they did chiori dirty with 2 of the best meta units and arlecchino coming out, shes very good and the best geo support for either navia or itto, if you main them even at her worse c0 with navia works better than the other options
Absolutely. She doesn't snapshot neither she buffs. Again Itto it's still stuck with just 1 real support/-buffer and that it's Gorou which u need C6 to truly stand up.
I'm a true believer that Geo will never shine unless u super invest
@@yakimlukanov6964 yeah, the weird thing is thanks to chiori not being buff dependant and having 100% uptime on dolls shes so good with itto, also building her is very very easy, you can just swap your trash gold relics for husk on the alchemy table and shes done, i didnt do troupe because is almost the same damage in E but ult damageis terrible by a lot and basics, on a construct geo team you can notice the difference by only putting her 2 dolls in so any itto mains will sure welcome her, im still missing her c1 but even on navias team she feels good to play c0, using the swap makes the doll attack right away and deal way more damage after the new character swapping attacks, is usually like 30k chiori skill damage + the doll twice and then navias shotgun to over 100k extra + the shotgun after with that combo, im really trying to pull c1 now for the second doll.
heard rumons that furina isn't coming now. i hope the rumors are wrong.
@@GraveUypo supposedly a rerun coming on 4.6 but they did change the leaked banners in hsr too so we gotta wait and see from their official sources
the fact that she doesn't have any buffing capability is what makes me don't see any value on her. I already got albedo since long time ago and felt like he is more than enough. his EM buff still useful for many reaction based team like aggravate, vape, melt, etc.
I cleared this abyss using :
Baizhu Furina Neuvilette Shinobu and Xiangling Chiori(C1) Navia Bennett respectively!
I can totally agree that the team comps are great and do a lot of work! Every character has been pulling their weight honestly
The Neuvilette Hyperbloom actually works wonders even through Baizhu's low Dendro application since there's so much personal dmg on all the characters! I've been using it in the Abyss since Furina's banner pretty much as thankfully I was one of the "few" Baizhu enjoyers out there and still am.
As for the Chiori Navia I think it still is quite the DPS increase to get the C1 in such a comp as otherwise I would've probably played Zhongli instead of Xiangling to get Chiori's dmg to her max potential, I really can't fathom her without both puppets.. Otherwise without Chiori you can just put Zhongli instead and this was pretty much my team comp for the other side to the Neuvi Hyperbloom..
However I'll add that honestly Baizhu has been a godsend ever since his arrival, saving my Cyno with the seamless shield and healing, then creating a Baizhu Xi-Be Lyney team and just in general serving as a good replacement for Zhongli! Both of these characters in my mind have about the same usefulness and one of these should be in most team comps for exploration imo.
baizhu finally standing up for all those speculations we had before 3.0 and he being the dendro archon
Dendro archon, Fatui Harbinger, a dragon, an evil doctor, and family doctor.
He makes Asian dads so proud.
Ayaka is so hard to use for me. She's not strong enough to not care for resistances and if the enemies can be frozen or not. I wanna use ayaka, shenhe, and kazuha team but I never get a chance to use her because she's built for freeze
I love chiori, got her c6, my first c6. I just enjoyed her play style at c6
Whale, dolphin or f2p?
Absolutely love this video format!! Hope you bring one every cycle.
8:31 POV team meta 28 be like "wow you guys have some nice chacter's builded😂😂😂
I'm on of those c1 chiori running with Navia teams that you're pondering
i was raising my hand when he keeps on asking if Chiori havers have her C1 lol
Speaking of freeze teams. They are not so bad in first half if you can cut that resist from Copelia, I'd even say that in rooms 1 and 2 freeze is good. I used what I call "neo-Morgana": Kazuha (c0, r5 favonius), Furina (c0, r1 signature), Ganyu (c1, r1 amos), Charlotte (don't remember cons exactly, I believe c3 and event catalysts). Relatively premium setup but with only few constellations. First two rooms are easy walk, room 3 is a bit difficult, but mostly due to high incoming damage, dps is good enough thanks to anemo set on Kazuha and Ganyu's c1's resist cut.
i tryed losing 50/50 for chiori to try and get my final con for gorou, not only did i get her, but in 27 pulls i got C1. copium thinking they upped her rate because they know how bad her sales would be. but ya i get to be a haver of not needing a construct for her.
the one i was expecting to show higher is gaming, hes a strong vap/melt user on bosses. anyone who has xianyun definitely has him and the way i got him built, hes doing 200k+ per plunge and the team is doing well over 1mil dmg per rotation, and i only got C5. only downside to my team is vary much prone to exploding, idk how many times i swap to xianyun and she just flopped over because of the right timing, bin fun though.
i only pulled for baizhu becoz i loved his story quest at the end of sumeru patch. which is good becoz i used him for furina neuvilet team.
Here is probably my best team:
Feel free to rate it.
Main DPS: Tighnari
Sub-DPS: Raiden Shogun
Support: Kaedehara Kazuha
Healer: Baizhu
8/10
That team is pretty goofy. I would remove Kazuha and put in another electro character and then the team would be good.
Why kazuha? He literally does nothing in a dendro team lol. Better to replace him with furina
I think u should swith kazuha with yelan/furina, they’re great for hyperbloom and both burst give u dmg boost buth if u using furina u must have a healer at least
Tighnari isn't that good with Hyperbloom he is really only good in spread teams. @noobhunterz88
I am religiously maining Ayaka freeze in every abys, cuz I love her
The other team is usually Raiden hyperbloom with Yelan or Neuvilette as the driver
YES, an abyss team analysis every cycle/banner change sounds like a good idea and also as a Chiori puller, i run shatter team with Ayato, its not about the meta, its about getting a new toy to playtest with.
also Baizhu is very comfy for neuvillou team especially if ur first dendro applier is nahida because she can provide great off field dendro but not continuous reapply on new enemy. and also neuvi eats those dendro apply from nahida way too fast so baizhu with his shield and slower dendro apply is pretty useful in that specific scenario.
I went c2...still thinking about most likely c4 soon. Chori is being slept on 100%
wait chiori is popular in CHIORI MADE ABYSS? u cant say anything about meta in genshin cuz every abyss is characrter specific at this point they are trying too hard to sell a characrter
My Raiden/Xiangling/Chevy/Bennet absolutely slaps! It's currently my best team along with Keqing hyperbloom with Furina /Nahida/Baizhu
Edit: Keqing 'quickbloom', she's built standard aggravate Thundering Fury.
9:17 just a small correction, an enemy only has to be *AFFECTED* by Cryo to get the 15% Cryo Resonance crit rate buff, not necessarily Frozen. That's just Blizzard Strayer. so you would still get the 15% crit rate.
No regrets pulling for baizhu since first released and navia they always so good to use .
Wrio stans we stand to acknowledge the efforts of the brave soldiers who fought in the solo abyss wars and the many blessings their efforts have brought to hs
May we all one day join their ranks
When will people understand that usage rate ≠ meta. Usage rate = comfortable and popular. Meta isn't a democracy
I cleared the second half of this abys with Navia Xianyun Furina and c0 Chiori. Absolutely love this team! Previously I used Zhongli in this team, which is also great
for abyss i tried many time and with the limited characted i have the most efective(eazy not complicated meta) team would be:
first half: Nahida, yelan, furina, kuki(I use furina here not only for dmg but to use hear overheal at dancing robot, as long you not dying hyperbloom dmg is enough to end it easily)
second half: you can manage with Raiden,xinque, xiangling,bennet (for last geo robot using elemental skill bennet and raiden to overload and plunging attack will be faster)
9:30 i generally don't like the sevy 4star clears, mainly cause in my account, i can clearly see the investment difference. Its also the same case with iwintolose's all 4 star clears. Its actually why i personally 36* it myself with a true f2p all 4-star clear.
By far, these all 4-star teams is the most comfy for me to clear even with less investment.
First half:
- Kuki, Sucrose, DMC, Xingqiu
Second half:
- Bennett, Fischl, Xiangling, Ningguang (This is supposed to be a chevreuse team but i don't have chevreuse, Ningguang feels the most comfy replacement from all my testing even when she's only at lvl 70)
My favorite teams for this cycle are variations of taser in first side (in particular, Raiden/Yae/Fischl + Venti/Kazuha + Furina + Kokomi) and either chevrouse teams or navia teams for second side.
2:28 he still is
He just has a really strong.... Piler that breaks the enhancer's shield and he's also good against coppelia if you have skill issue
Usage rates are NOT META!!!
If random player makes such a mistake it's already disappointing, cause you need just a little bit of thinking to understand it. But content creator and one that is an old veteran? SHAME. Ok, what I see next... Reading data... ohh my... badly. If Baizhu has much smaller ownership then his % of usage rate means LESS than in case of a character with higher ownership - Yelan, even - than character that is simply older. It should be made clear. This comparison was very misleading. I see we are not ending here yet...
Chiori for Navia... is a surprise? Really? c0 Chiori without construct still can be better than Albedo. Besides, what other options for crystalize you have? Zhongli? If you need shield, sure, most of the time it would be better to go with more offensive options - Chiori and then Furina plus healer, or just Benny - Xiangling. It's so simple, what is here to be surprised about?...
Ok, I have enough, only last thing... freeze teams being countered in every recent Abyss? Are you even serious or you repeat thoughtlessly never ending myths that freeze is falling off? You know when was the last time freeze was amazing? Umm... It was previous Abyss. For some reason many people keep repeating such nonsense for such a long time, while freeze is top strong and popular again and again. Not in every Abyss, sure. So what, it's the same with many other options.
Some fact to balance this BS - Venti is TOP strong for this Abyss. He shines in this Abyss similarly like Zhongli. Check my account if you want proof. And now look at usage rates... There, that's how much usage rates are different from META.
Sevy!!! my girl getting the recognition she deserves.
I actually used my Noelle team for the first time ever on the second half and she popped off. She was only level 80 at the time (since I never got around to lv 90ing her, but she was fully built) she is now level 90 and ready for the next cycle.
I played for the last abyss on the first part : Nilou/Baizhu/Candace/Nahida
and for the second part : Nahida/Kokomi/Furina/Chiori and it was FIRE, don't understimate any character in Genshin, they're all strong and fun ! :D
For the Neuv, Furina, Baizhu core and the knights, another simple reason is that Neuv with Furina buffs just deletes those guys. Most things can be solved with the proper application of violence, and this is definitely one of them. Heck, I threw my double geo team at it, so lots of crystalize shields, but it doesn't matter, because when you have 3 characters doing high off-field damage, plus Navia to explain to knights why full plate armor went out of fashion with the advent of guns, well, yeah... I ran the Abyss with this team in the second half originally, before trying it again with the teams flipped, and the dual geo team will be doing the top half, rather than the bottom on subsequent resets.
As to Baizhu, I think he's like Jean. He's always been fine, but the opportunity cost of using of using him was a bit high. Now we have Furina, who is just that good, and therefore changes that opportunity cost equation.
As to C1 Chiori usage, she was the second geo in that comp I mentioned and she has her C1 (and also c2). If I wasn't going to get the C1, I wouldn't have bothered getting her at all. I pulled Albedo on his OG banner, and without her c1, she'd just be a side grade. And one I wouldn't even bother using, the same way I don't use Albedo. At that level of performance, the character isn't one you use because the team wants the character, but rather, because they are the least bad option you have access to (or because you just want to use them, of course... always a great reason to use a character).
The site used in this video as a reference isn't really a good reference if you ask me. Because not only the sample size isn't exactly big enough, but also because of how it collect samples, it allows people to do something like, quite literally boosting a characters usage rate (by putting neuvillette with 3 of their favorite characters and let neuvillette do all the work, or like the solo wriothesley etc)
So yeah this site isn't exactly a good reference. I would recommend anyone who're watching this video to take in pretty much anything that comes out of this site as a giant grain of salt
Despite that, it still brings up some interesting topic for us to discuss about. Like baizhu, freeze, overload, and heck even neuvillette
First let's talk about baizhu. I explicitly remember some "theorycrafter" say that he's a side grade to yao yao. Which, if I'm being honest is quite a dumb statement to make when his advantages is quite obvious, and also pretty big compared to yao yao. First of all, his teamwide healing is behind his elemental skill, whereas for yao yao it's her burst
If that wasn't a big enough advantage, allow me to remind you that yao yao need to stay on field in order to do that. Not to mention baizhu's elemental application while isn't more than yao yao by a lot, it sure is way better than yao yao because of how you lose application if yuegui hits you instead of the enemies. Not to mention he actually gives a paper shield that act as a temporary interruption immunity buff, which yao yao cannot do. On top of that his application follows you around unlike yuegui. So yeah it's not really a surprise he ended up being way better than just a "side grade" to yao yao
For freeze team, they've really managed to make freeze team feels bad to play. Not only they keep adding enemies with freeze resistance (that stay frozen shorter than others), they also made the dancer boss have high cryo resistance while being a boss, and let the boss basically bought a house in abyss at this point. Yeah, it feels bad to be a freeze player nowadays
For overload however it's a completely different situation. Not only have we been getting more and more enemies with high interruption resistance, they are also appearing in duo more often now. Not only these type of enemies are slowly replacing the typical trash mobs that you can easily group with kazuha, they also made boss rush a reality now which wasn't thought to be possible back then. Like, if you tell me a year ago that the devs will put 3 bosses on one side, I'd be laughing at you. But now... Yeah
On top of that, this abyss specifically doesn't only benefit overload in making up with it's weakness, it also rewards you for using overload as well. Like first chamber, the chicken would release the spore attack if applied too much pyro, and release a charging attack that not only run you down, but also run away from you which causes a lot of time waste if you apply too much electro. By using overload you'd get neither of those because pyro would remove the electro and vice versa. Adding to that the third chamber has a geo shield which a lot of people forget, that you can actually break relatively quickly with overload
It's interesting how neither freeze nor overload was nerfed or buffed directly, but by releasing new characters and new enemies changes how well it perform entirely. So yeah, when will they actually make crystalize better?
Last but not least let's talk about neuvillette. His addition to the game isn't exactly a... healthy one if you ask me. You see, not only this character has way lower (arguably the lowest) skill ceiling than other characters, he also has some of the biggest increase from his constellations. Typically constellations wouldn't be that big of a deal for f2p players because it's not easily accessible, but in neuvillette's case they gave him a ridiculously powerful constellation and decided to put it at C1. Which is easily obtainable even for the f2p. Because it's literally just one more five star
An existence like him not only has inflated the power level of the entire roster (not exactly a powercreep so I decided to call it inflation instead) which makes pretty much every single on field dps ever completely worthless to pull for (note, not worthless to use but worthless to pull for), his existence also made team building, understanding game's mechanic, study enemies moves etc etc a complete joke. Because why waste your time on building a perfect team, when you can just put neuvillette and 3 random characters and call it a day (which also creates the problem of making usage rate a joke)? Why learn how the game work when you can just go kamehameha and spin to win? Why learn enemies attack pattern when you can just stand there and hydro pump the shit out of your enemies?
While yes, he requires his C1R1 in order to be game breaking. But it isn't entirely out of the questions for most players. Because you can well you know, save up and get his C1 at least. But still having a C1 character being effectively the equivalent of old C6 characters, is such a dumb idea. I'd rather they make the C0 better than old characters, but the improvement from constellations remain the same (like about 10%~15% dmg increase and not much mechanical improvement). Because now we're in the state where if you ever decide to pull for an on field dps (which typically already have low pull value to begin with), why would you ever pull for anyone that's not neuvillette if you're looking for power?
Because of that I want to remind everyone of you who're reading this, if you ever decide to pull for an on field dps, pull for the ones you like. Yeah, I'm not recommending to brainlessly pull for neuvillette. Because if neuvillette can happen once, it definitely can happen twice. So don't ever pull for an on field dps character based purely out of power. Because it won't get you anywhere
Also, with how easy he is to play while being so dominant in performance, it would make learning the game mechanics etc not worthwhile because you can always just pull for a character like him and go brrrrr. So yeah, combined with what I said about him prior it's why I think he's such an unhealthy addition to the game
Anyway thanks for reading. Remember, if you don't like neuvillette you don't need to pull for him. On field dps is only worth it when you like them. Always prioritize supports instead
This video is just nonsense, starting with - usage rates are NOT META, simple. I added my own comment pointing out a few worst problems of this video. You are right about Baizhu. There are clear reasons why he wasn't popular on his release, it shouldn't be surprising. Like simply coming at the end of Sumeru that was crowded with dendro characters. As for TC you are mentioning - Zagenda77 is terrible disingenuous purposefully misleading CC, so yeah.
I don't really agree about freeze. It was slaying like always in previous Abyss. In current one also can work well enough if you stun Coppelia with arkhe. Not mentioning freeze annihilates first two chambers. For some reasons people are exaggerating problems of freeze teams, for a very long time telling - ohh, it fallen off... while it comes back as top strong and popular again and again. I'm tired of hearing same stories how Hoyo made Abyss hard for freeze... since start of Sumeru, LOL.
As for Neuvi - yes, you are much right and it should be clear as day. Only I want to add - that his kit is very interesting and unique concept, plus one that potentially would require fairly good skill expression. It's mainly just no limitation of the speed of turning that makes it broken and his interesting design ruined. It's not even about crazy spinning, that's just an extremum. Also - he is gamebreaking already at c0 plus Prototype Amber. His range-AoE is absolutely gamebreaking.
Dude, stop yapping. Everyone knows that these stats are from a specific subset of the playerbase. It doesn’t matter though. It’s still interesting to look at them and comment on them.
@@books2438 Tell me you didn't read my comment without telling me you didn't read my comment
@@books2438 Nope, video is terrible and misleading. You missed the point. Also no, you can expect from Genshin players everything, but understanding data.
@@MarionFR Nope, the video is just one guy discussing his thoughts and observations in a light hearted conversation. That’s entirely fine. You need help if you think that’s a problem
I used Chiori - Navia in my team, my Chiori is c0, it doesn't matter, as more cristalized reaction is much appreciated. and her tapestry deals quite a bit of damage anyway.
Baizhu was my first limited 5* pull. Even skipped Nahida for him. No regrets, best healer in the game. I consider him a Zhongli-level defensive unit. Geo daddy for shields, snake daddy for heals, one for each team.
9:44 Zhongli never stopped being relevant.
He has always been one of the most used characters ever since his buffs. Almost always hovering around 60%+ usage rate. His lowest usage rate was 51% which is still massive.
Thanks to Noelle being more relevant nowaday I almost never use Zhongli anymore.
He is nice and very comfy when needed for team like Melt Ganyu or Yoimiya etc where you don't need more dmg but want comfort, but if I want a tanky team id rather run Noelle, Furina, Albedo and flex slot. Noelle turn the current abyss into a joke with her spin to win combo in first half and either double hydro or Xianyun plunge on 2nd half, she clear the geo shield super quick and she is strong enough to kill it within 2 rotation using 4 star weapon
I never liked Baizhu and I really don't get why people batchest him. His dendro is garbage, his shield is garbage "oww but it's how it's supposed to be it's the gimmick" no, it's just bad. It's not protecting you from sh1t and his healing sometimes is not enough. No to mention how much of a dps loss he is. So I wouldn't even go for him for "comfort". Even in his "best teams" like Cyno and Neuv, remove him in favor of Kuki and Zhongli and it'll just be better.
"oww your Baizhu is bad" no he is not, he is invested enough and he feels like ass. Not even Furina is enough to save his a$s for me.
wait is the Kuki and Zhongli Variant better than Baizhu? cause i thought the highest damaging cyno team uses baizhu as the defensive option since he slightly and i mean slightly helps cyno for multiwave. since deepwood feels like an unreliable set on him and that can hurt cyno's hyperbloom damage.
Well for Cyno IIRC the Baizhu variant is strong good especially due to being able to use Furina as well. But IMO Baizhu is sometimes a bit overrated, especially when people start throwing him into any team that needs a healer (Neuvillette in particular). The only time I use him myself is in aggravate where is very comfy and not a damage loss.
@@aerohydra3849 i kinda wish we get a better thoma that also heals so that i can play bain marie with nahida on PTA since Baizhu's buffs honestly means nothing for Wrio, like it would be nice if Wrio's melts are also buffed by nahida's EM boost. and his off field dendro app is kinda dogsh*t.
Skill issue lol
If Baizhu’s healing isn’t enough for you I think you have a skill issue. Like, actually, how the fuck. There isn’t a single healer in this game other than him that will get you max fanfare stacks on SKILL, not even burst
"have you noticed who's missing here?" "yees, my ganyu the destro- oh.."
People are catching on as to how good Biahzu actually is.
as someone who likes to play in the abyss, here are some of the teams i used so far:
furina noelle gorou yunjin
furina noelle gorou navia
furina noelle gorou xianyun
furina noelle fischl beidou
furina noelle bennet yunjin (vape noelle, w/o using noelle's burst)
furina noelle albedo chiori
gorou noelle albedo fischl
gorou noelle albedo chiori
(a few other noelle teams i'm tired of listing them)
furina itto gorou bennet
Zhongli Itto xiangling bennet
furina navia gorou bennet
mona navia gorou bennet
mona navia zhongli bennet
chev raiden sara bennet
nahida raiden sara furina
nahida raiden sara barbara
furina eula zhongli bennet
baizhu keqing furina fischl
baizhu keqing beidou fischl
yaoyao keqing furina fischl
furina neuvillette zhongli ganyu
furina neuvillette zhongli fischl
furina neuvillette zhongli beidou
furina neuvillette kazuha ganyu
beidou neuvillette fischl baizhu
furina diluc xianyun bennet
furina gaming xianyun bennet
nahida keqing fischl beidou
nahida nilou barbara yaoyao
nahida nilou xingqiu yaoyao
there's more probably. i test a bunch of variations to compare them and find which one works best.i would say for side one the furina itto gorou bennet team is performing stupidly good because the rotations fit perfectly with the spawns, and itto is great at controlling the two local legend girls. he can two-cycle that chamber in less than 40 seconds (two rotations) and i wasn't even speed running and had a useless buff. noelle can do 40 or less too but it's much harder with her because the stupid girls keep getting away. neuvillette is wonky, but if i use fall damage to your advantage he can probably do it under 40 seconds too (not that i've managed to do it, or tried to begin with)
out of these i think my worst team was nahida keqing fischl beidou. it was just trash. it only worked because side 2 is so damn easy to do fast that i could take over 2 minutes on side one and still win with whatever team i had on the other side.
I've been using Neuvillete, Furina, Fischl and Sucrose in every abyss. It's really insane fast clear as long as they are not immune to hydro. Used it first half of abyss and just hyperbloom the 2nd side for an easy clear lol
Haha. I c6 my Baizu on Furina rerun. Never regreted it. Always onmy 36 star abbys run.
Chiori is my new favourite sub dps.
At C4R1 she does more damage than my C6R1 Yae Miko, and she's much less hassle to use.
No more totem spam. Woohoo!
Please make this video for every patch it's fun to watch and it's my fast ever comment on your any video
It just goes to show just because the top creators says X is better than Y doesnt make it true. Things can look so good on a spreadsheet or a screenshot but none of that matters if it feels like a pain to get those numbers consistently. I alway prefered someone that made me comfortably clear than someone that got me the biggest numbers possible.
Yeah it feels like abyss since the start of Fontaine, has just been rigged against freeze teams. There is always some pesky enemy that makes them not optimal. Like i have Ayaka/Shenhe both with their signature weapons and i have not used either once on floor 12 since we got to Fontaine.
It's not that weird for Baizhu, whales and Abyss speed demons have been using him since release. His use has been up since Fontaine released.
Zhongli+Chiori+Bennet/Chevreuse+ Navia = GeoKaboom. Her dolls are menaces.
Baizhu is a great 4 star ngl kinda strong
I'm surprised that Navia Chiori Yelan Bennett comp isn't mentioned in the top Navia Chiori teams. This team has super smooth rotations and it's actually satisfying to use then together, unlike all those other teams.
It's kinda annoying if you don't bring a full party healer with Furina, and since Bennett is so good with Navia, you don't wanna seperate them. And playing Xiangling is so annoying cause she needs way too much er even with Bennett in these teams for smooth rotations. Plus she takes Bennett uptime.
But I 100% vouch for Yelan Bennett Chiori Navia. The buff uptimes and everything else aligns perfectly too - highly recommend y'all to try it in the current abyss.
Sidenote: Xingqiu works really well as a replacement as well!
Baizhu is the best healer imo. Especially with Furina, he is even more useful now more than ever.
yao yao heals 59 percent more if built like a healer with burst.
@@xiahe6708baizhu heals entire party with just his E that has a 10 second cooldown. that’s something Yaoyao can’t do with her E.
@@skyhart9926baizhu also costs like 22000 more primos than yaoyao
Ever since Zhongli I’ve always wanted to have a character who is Geo and uses a bow who acts as the teams main dps. That is my top type of character I want to have while my hopes and prayers for pyro traveler being a main dps is number 2.
Mine still used Neuvi + Furina and Alhaitham Hyperbloom and it still works up this patch. Though I also used Navia National on the 12th floor though.
I love this kind of reverse guide where someone who guides learn things from the players.
one more reason for high furina and neuv usage was that the last gravity boss gets stunned due to neuv 'e' for 10 whole seconds or heal mode furina charged attacked, i was able to 36 star only cuz of that
for me, the easiest comps to clear this abyss by a LARGE margin are:
for the first part: neuvillette, baizhu, furina and kazuha or yae, furina, nahida and jean (i am not joking, the difference was 5 seconds in every chamber, in the first one yae beat neuvillette because you can make jean succ the agents and making them stuck in the air while the rest of the team annihilate the enemies)
for the second part: navia, zhongli, xiangling and bennet, i can't compare to anyone because it is not even close, the only boss to actually last more than 30s with my navia was the cube lookin motherfucker, the damage gate takes way too much time, btw my navia is c0 and using r5 serpent spine, if you can't do the same thing with your navia, try counting the geo crystals on the ground and how many stacks your navia has, if it adds up to 6 or more, you shoot, and never start any rotation without her ultimate, you will get 300k ish hits every time if you do that
This is why I was never really concerned about powercrept in genshin (except for neuvillete), because HYV have track record of not buffing or nerfing character like other gacha games but instead make ”Enemy” to buff and nerf their units or make the environment favor certain archetype, yes it sucks when you don’t have that certain units or archetype, but that’s practically the same if they would nerf your unit into oblivion and buff those you don’t have, at least this way it only affects spiral abyss and not other content
Very interesting video and also a bit inspiring. Would love to see more in the future!
I would like to say that your comment of "you can clear this abyss with some f2p teams, sevy did it" is very very misleading, sevy is very good at the game and those 4-stars are c6 with fully refined good 4-star weapons, not to mention that one of the teams is sucrose national, a very strong team at c6, AND it's not like she clears the chambers with more than a minute to spare which would mean others have some wiggleroom, it's only around 15-20 seconds, most people that could need the "4-star f2p" options have c0's, don't have the weapons or badly refined versions, and are worse at the game, they can not do the same thing. Granted the hyperbloom team is easier to get going and could be a good second team in some abysses once you get of the ground to get some stars, but it's not a free win.
Furina + Neuvillette have been my most overpowered team ever since I got them both. Neuvillete is just causally putting out 46k damage per CA hit and that's not even counting Furina's damage. Nearly any healer works. Jean got her comeback in that team for me.
I'm glad Geo finally become meta spot this time, I don't invest Geo team yet but I have C6 Yunjin and C5 Gorou. I still don't know what dps to choose cuz most of them gameplay are quite slow for my taste, except Chiori I guess.
For this abyss i used
Kazuha(c2), Bennett(c6), XianYun, Furina(c2) first half
And
Tighnari, Baizhu, Nahida, Raiden (all c0) second half
Had fun trying to break the geo guy's shield with Raiden's plunge attacks lmao
But i managed it with 36 stars (C2 Furina probably carried tho)
You still get cryo resonance crit rate buff even if enemies aren't frozen. They just need to be affected by Cryo.
Me using Albedo, Venti, Wanderer, Chiori - i realized Wanderer is a pretty good sub for Kazuha, i had a lot of fun!!
credit where credit's due, Genshin really does a good job countering power creep, like very few other gacha games do
they are really desperate not to miss a centavo. lol. but yeah, they can make underrated chars up to meta and vice versa. they are always 2 steps ahead from criticism. Yoimiya, Kokomi, Yae, Kuki, Baizhu, Chiori.
Thought this was a cool type of video! Would watch one of each version too.
I always had great impression of Baizhu in gameplay coz Dendro-healer is always good... Though i didn't personally rolled for him, just used him on events that uses trial characters...
Chiori though, I'm still disappointed of her kit that don't even feel bad failing her (already lost 50/50 on her banner, and i rather save the guarantee for Arlecchino)
c2 baizhu w/ 4pc golden troupe has been amazing for me. i think him & yelan are the only two i want to c6. so far have c2 for both.
I used c0 Chiori with HoD with Navia double pyro on the second chamber. It was pretty easy and idrc about the constellation tbh.
im so glad i went for baizhu on his first run. it's paid off in spades
I like this video type. When it comes to data, I'd be curious to see NA server stats, or a pool of data that includes ALL abyss clears, not just 36 stars. Some people, even with a good account, only get 3 or 6 stars in floor twelve, and I think it'd be interesting to see what else people choose.
C1S1 Chiori haver here. Used her on every floor and exceeded expectations. Definitely no regrets :)
honestly suprised noelle isnt there at all, especially considering the need for geo, healing, and damage, especially so considering not a lot of people own baizhu
I hope that the electro sovereign(if playable) will be a electro charged based dps/support
Albedo is a go to pick for Navia teams, and the C0 Chiori is very close to Albedo C0 so it's just a swap in that team
my abyss team were no1 and no8. thanks for showing this. nice vid.
Cyno mains rejoice. I didn't know until now that Baizhu can Bai-Pass the back serpent knights.
i refused to fall into the trap of getting Chiori C1 for Navia. so my 2nd half was Navia furina kuki Xianyun and it works prefectly ;)
Unless there's corrosion, Zhongli will always be high usage for people who want to clear comfortably and have the raw DPS to do it. They just don't want to dodge annoying attacks.