I feel like anything in her life takes a backseat to what’s happening to Rue. And her mom seems to put a lot of responsibility on her to take care of Rue. I know they’re sisters and this may sound harsh, but it is not Gia’s responsibility to monitor Rue. Her mom got so mad at Gia when she thought she knew about Rue doing heavy drugs (even though she didn’t know), even though Rue had obviously been acting suspicious for weeks. And when that scene came up where Leslie told Gia to help get off her phone and help her look for Rue while they were driving, I really felt for her because I can tell she feels like she always has to focus on her drug addict sister. That’s too much for a child to handle.
@@mikayladanielle exactly, it made me so fricking sad because shes been living in their fights for her whole life, when its not even about her, and when Leslie heard Rues been smoking weed, they both blame Gia for it, when shes literally like 15 and trying to survive the trauma that has been put onto her because of her family fighting cuz of Rues addiction. As someone who lives in a situation thats quite similar, except the addiction, it made me almost cry. sorry if i made any grammatical or any other mistakes :,)
@@mikayladanielle my exact life with my older brother being the younger and we’ve had this exact family fight down to certain lines lol I felt bad for rue tho she deserves some sympathy
The Laurie scene is frightening. For people not reading between the lines, she’s not helping Rue. She wants to sell her. Everything she’s said has been a hint to what her intentions are. Rue’s extremely vulnerable and in a lot of pain. The pain of withdrawal is like living hell. That’s why it’s so hard to get clean, you don’t just get a little sick, you feel like your skin is on fire and your being twisted from the inside out. You will do ANYTHING to get relief from that pain. Laurie is basically telling Rue that she no longer feels emotion, which is how she’s able to be a predator. She doesn’t feel guilt anymore. Laurie plays sweet but she’s purposely turning Rue into an IV drug user. She’s cleaning her up and telling her as a woman she still has something people want. She also tells Rue you aren’t in a state of mind where you are going to go make my money for me. Everything Laurie is doing points to one thing, she’s going to keep Rue high and sell her. I promise the day Rue came to her with the plan she knew Rue would mess up. When she said that she knew that first night they’d be in each other’s lives for awhile she had plans for Rue. Although Rue escaped, that’s too easy. I still think Laurie is going to get to get to her.
I didn’t think about how Laurie would want to sell Rue but, she did tell Rue she would sell her to some bad people if Rue didn’t give her her money 🤔. I was reading between the lines too, never trust a drug dealer and I guess never trust a drug addict 😅
THIS. THIS IS THE COMMENT 📢 It blows my mind that people thought Lori was trying to help Rue, when she blatantly told Rue, you can still sell your body. Lori lied about having pills while getting the morphine out, held Rue captive (like the birds- that’s why they kept showing shots of them, guys);; Rue going to Lori after everything this episode is supposed to show Rue at her lowest point. It’s not Rue finding someone she can trust, it’s someone who truly doesn’t care about her.
I 100% agree with you on all of this. I really feel that people who are thinking that Laurie was helping Rue are people who are still very young & naive to the realities of the world. Which in all honesty, Rue is too. At the end of the day, we have to remember one very important thing about Rue, she's still only 17 years old.
I don't think it was downplayed, it was more so realistic. Maddy's not going to directly assault Cassie in her family's house while her sister and mother are right next to her. On top of that Rue's situation was unravelling and other witnesses were present. Maddy had to refrain herself as much as possible, (obviously afterwards she let it all out and chased her). If anything Cassie was very lucky that Maddy found out in this exact setting, as it slightly mitigated the consequences (but we'll see shit hit the fan on the next episode per the trailer). Also when your BF betrays you, you're in such disbelief that you can't even express your anger properly.
im a recovered heroin addict . yes the entire downward spiral and hurting the ones that love you the most is very realistic . Zendaya does an amazing job. so many moments in this took me back
@@Destyn2b I’m ok thanks. ! I’ve been sober for a decade now but it for sure helped me remember how far I’ve come .i feel for Rue and especially her little sister / mom . I can tell the director is an addict so many things hit so close to home
i think rue crying in between her yelling, portrays that she's so stuck between wanting to be a better person, yet still not able to let go of her addict part. i don't like how people looked past her crying and apologising as just her wanting her suitcase, there's sm more there
same. I can tell how many people are not addicts by how they're acting like Rue is more worried about the money than the looming threat of withdrawal. If someone stole my drugs while I was addicted I'd have considered that attempted murder, definitely not a friend trying to help.
Oh no baby it is that deep.. Laurie even said when she was going through withdrawals she would do anything to get more drugs and she said it's good they're women because they have something else people want. Laurie purposefully gave Rue intravenous morphine bc she wants her hooked on the needle and she'll come and do anything for Laurie to get a fix so ya Laurie was deff ready to pimp rue out... Prayers to my girl for the rest of this season bc Laurie gonna want that money back soon.
That’s what I was thinking. She was trying to create a space where Rue felt safe to come back and also wanted to get her hooked on IV use. That’s why she woke up fully clothed in a room all alone. Once addicts start doing IV, it’s game over.
Not to mention the locked doors in the apartment. Just read a comment about scratching coming from behind the doors. The 42min mark confirms. smh . THE ANXIETY
It isn't even something you need to "read into" as something "deep". It was made pretty obvious. "You don't look like someone who will come up with money soon" on top of the "as a woman, you'll always have something people want" line. Laurie is a business-minded criminal with no conscience, and the writers even spell that out obviously for the audience, that she's a psychopath with no conscience (no anger, no emotions). She administered morphine through her veins (a far more addictive way of using compared to ingestion or snorting). This is the most typical way to own sex slaves. Laurie was in the process of turning Rue into a sex slave, and it wasn't "something deep" to read into. Rue just narrowly escaped that fate.
if you listen closely behind the locked doors in the house, it’s sounds like ppl scratching behind the door. i think she’s already pimping girls out. and rues tolerance was higher than laurie thought, that’s how she woke up. i also think that the birds are a coverup for the noises and alerts for the girls being kept there…. idk… just a theory. i see a laurie raid coming.
Rue's a bipolar addict, I saw a tiktok comment that explained it really well some people see Rue crying moments as manipulation, but Rue means every word she says, it's just how her mind works all the ups and downs and depending on drugs to get through life - i just felt sad for Rue the entire episode
Yeah my family member was a bipolar addict too and it was literally exactly like that. I could predict his up and down cycles like the back of my hand. And it is also manipulation at the same time, because they use their emotions to get substances, even in their despair.
She does NOT mean every word she says. She is going through withdraws and just doing anything to get drugs. Like Fez said, "Never take what an addict says seriously." That was the whole theme of this episode. She was spiraling because of the drugs, that's what drugs do to you. Turn you into someone you are noy.
@@ipurpleu1668 when I’m referring to every word she says… I’m mean when she would break down in between screaming and yelling. When she would break down crying and apologizing, she was meaning everything she said. While some viewers may take that as manipulation but that’s how Rue was truly feeling but the yelling, etc. was her wanting the drugs / frustration of the suitcase being gone
She is not a bad person. If people are judging her while using and abusing drugs, understand that that is not her true character. People turn into something they don't recognize and do things they would never do if sober. And it doesn't matter is she is high at the moment or not, she is addicted. DRUG ADDICTION IS A DISEASE, it would be like saying that a person with alzheimer's disease or schizophrenia is a bad person. Their brain is literally not working as it should. They need to be stable in order to show their true self. This whole episode (maybe season) was the drugs talking, not Rue. She needs help, not judgement.
I mean can you truly blame her mother for calling her a bad person? All Leslie tries to do is help and support her an offer whatever tools she can and all Rue does is yell at her and call her terrible things and break things in her house and gaslight her little sister, obviously at some point she’s going to start to believe that maybe this is just who her child does now. For the rest of us as viewers there is sympathy but I think we can be angry and disappointed in Rue and still not villainize or make fun of the illness that is addiction and I think that’s a balance a lot of people are yet to find
@@NyikoDoris exactly, i feel alot of sympathy for everyone bc they have so much trauma in their life’s that they haven’t worked on. unfortunately most of them don’t know how to handle it and at the end of the day it’s their job to learn how to cope in a healthier way. that’s apart of being human, we all don’t have the answers and we are all learning as we go and unfortunately, hurting ourselves and others as we go. these characters show how dual and paradoxical humans are. they show the true nature of being human. we all carry dark and light aspects of ourselves. this is life, the thing that matters most is understanding we are all human and showing love and compassion and understand that alot of us are functioning off of trauma but with that being said it’s okay to love someone but never okay excusing their behaviors that harm themselves, you and others.
no she chose to do drugs so she must bear the consequences. Lets not pretend this isnt rue’s fault to begin with. She did it to herself and thats on that. Nothing more
@@goddesshudgens580 she didn't choose to be addicted to it though?? It's not as simple as "it's her fault, she chose to do drugs", shit is much more complicated than that
Lots of husbands beat their wives in front of their kids when they go on a tantrum without their drugs but using your logic we should just tell their kids that they shouldn’t judge Daddy since he’s addicted and that is not his true character
The scenes with the cops proved she isn't a Black girl because she wouldn't have the opportunity to run. We really need to stop vicariously living through biracial girls it's embarrassing.
@@charmaineespeut4627 kind of agree. If Rue was played by a fully black or dark skinned actress the cop scene would have felt WAY scarier. For sure she would have been shot. But Zendaya literally looks biracial. She would have just been cuffed and sent to the station. I’m not even trying to invalidate her blackness, but it’s the truth
@@charmaineespeut4627 girl who cares she is still black. Black people always want to stay divided. White peoples see her as black not mixed or white. Nobody is living vicariously through biracial people. If you don’t know who you are as a black person that is a personal problem to you. Rihanna and Beyoncé are biracial but I bet you see them as black🙄
I’m dead Rue was Hulking out, tearing down the whole back of the house and literally terrorizing her mom and sister while Jules and Elliott were just chilling in the living room listening
That’s something I didn’t know for a while but drug addicts who are addicted to hard drugs get these moments of like super strength idk if it’s the adrenaline or something but it’s wild
Rue was not high in the opening but that is withdrawal that's why she's acting that way. Withdrawal is very very ugly unless you've been through it you won't understand. Usually opiate withdrawal onset is within 24 hours or less. The things you will deal with is. Paranoia, anxiety, fear, worsening of depression, diarrhea, vomiting (sometimes at the same exact time both ends are going) body aches, runny nose, sneezing, coughing, sleeplessness, restless leg and arms when you try to sleep. And there is a lot of anger you're not mad at anyone just the fact your body is asking for more drugs. These effects can last for weeks to months. The emotional withdrawal can be years. There are two stages of withdrawal there is the physical withdrawal then the emotional you will have to deal with both. So you must understand where Rue was coming from. Trust me when I say you'll do whatever it takes to avoid the long restless nights of withdrawal. You're up all night in panic and severe depression your achy you're tired your head hurts you're puking and shitting all night and shaking. I hope this gives some insight to people who don't know everything about withdrawal. Its not just puking.
Y'all that scene where Rue slapped Elliot on the head😭😭that was so funny to me. Like how he gon sit there and say "I liked Rue the way she was. I never should've said anything" then drop a crocodile tear and go for a smoke like are u the sad one here?
Absolutely! And it seems like Sam worked on his writing because the writing was good in this one. E4 felt like he saved all of the writing for Cal’s speech.
@@jarenfromvenus His writing was fine in the other ones too... for some reason when it comes to this show, bad writing = your favorite characters not doing what you want them to do.
@@jordancharles8598 That’s not bad writing to me. This episode surrounded 1 character and I said the writing was good. Rue was literally doing back to back things that I didn’t want her to do. Lol
I just want to add to Rue's reaction to the suitcase missing that I just realized. . Yes, she knows she will be in trouble with Laurie. Yes, she is an addict but also in the previous episode we saw a beautiful performance where Rue was able to connect, speak and hold her father again. Taking those drugs away, takes that experience away and Rue will do whatever it takes to be near her father again. Her delusion of him even told her she was a good person even when she felt she wasn't. Her mother telling her the opposite had to absolutely destroy Rue in that moment.
@@jaymeetsworld1 girl rewatch the episode in a addicts point of view i swear you will understand rues character so much more and the small ques and triggers that happen threw out her interactions and her moodswings 🙏
@@tanaka-kunthelazy4995 because this is an initial reaction and im saying the first thing that comes to mind in that moment it will differ from my later thoughts after getting a chance to process it.. I don think my frustration with rue is unjustified. I think just like her mother and gia theres a right to be frustrated because as non addicts, we dont understand. There are many times I see things form rue's perspective and I try to change back and forth from everyones but in that family scene moment I was seeing it more from the families because we dont see them often.
@@jaymeetsworld1 but as a person even in the simple context of shes a bipolar addict from our pov and following her perceptive since the beginning it was very clear that the reason she was so hooked on drugs was because she couldn't cope with her fathers death and maintain the will to be there at once even when it came to jules it was like a drug for her to get addicted on so understandably in rues head in this episode is where are the drugs that's all she has her lifeline its what kept her there distracted from all her bottled up feelings she hasn't been able to express since jules left she's stuck in the emotions of a child and her mentality seems to change from child to young adult multiple times threw out the show
@@jaymeetsworld1 i think its also the reason her mom has been able to manage being there for her so well as well as gia this is the real her the her that they know the her they want to help the childish temper tantrum kid who just wants to be okay and for everything to be quite for a little also threw out the show she shrugs off her past but only because she cant confront it instead she focuses on everyone else and what they have going on how does it benefit her and her situation she collects all this info as a distraction from her own life
Unfortunately, growing up with an addict increases your chances of surrounding yourself with individuals with the same illnesses. Jules should break off everything with her inner circle because they represent everything wrong with her Mom, but she craves the ‘normalcy’.
Honestly, probably an unpopular opinion, I think Rue's explosion on Jules is kind of justified. Jules has been super hypocritical in the relationship, especially when she got on Rue about how Elliot wants to get with Rue. Rue surely picked up on the fact that they had atleast done something together, not just the ratting out and thats why she got so explosive. The really only two friends she had turned around and cheated and hurt Rue. Do I think Rue should've hid her relapse and still done drugs as frequently as she did? No. Am I supporting her for fueling her addiction? No. But I think she just hit her breaking point, especially while withdrawing. I think Rue and Jules should stay split, atleast until they both can handle their own trauma and get help. Edit: I also genuinely blame Elliot too, his character was literally out to break up the pair, so its not completely all on Jules. He knew what he was doing from the start.
I don’t disagree … after thinking about it, it made sense. In that moment it just felt very harsh cause at the end of the day jules just wants rue to be clean
I agree 100% Rue was hella out of pocket but she was making some valid points about Jules. I’m glad that she finally brought up the train and how she felt about that night because they’ve literally never talked about it and it felt like the first time Rue finally got all of it out of her system about all the crappy things Jules had done since they’ve known each other. With that said, Jules was totally right to tell Rue’s mom.
@@jaymeetsworld1 That's true, I totally get that. When I first seen that scene I was in shock. But the more I've thought about it, I can really understand Rue's frustration and anger. I understand Jules wanted Rue clean, but she picked the worst way and time to do it.
@@W4TSKY Exactly. Jules did the right thing, just literally the worst timing. But I'm glad they're finally separating and Rue got out all her frustrations she couldn't get out before.
Cassie telling Maddy not to believe Rue because she’s a drug addict knowing she telling the truth was one of the lowest things I’ve heard on this show yet. I’m surprised Rue didn’t snap back at her for that, and I’m surprised nobody talks about Cassie saying that.
ppl keep saying that what rue said to jules was justified and tbh while whether it was true or not, jules didn’t deserve to see yet another person in her life be a victim to addiction like that; also if miss zendaya don’t have an Emmy in her hands for this performance by the end of the year there’s finna be a problem
I just have to say that as a former addict that zendaya like did her research. This was honestly the most realistic opiate withdrawal I’ve seen on TV. This whole episode was amazing to see how much she’s grown as an actress
Zendaya didn't have to do research,the creator of the show (Sam Levinson) is a recovering addict and has been clean since 19 years old (which is now I think 17 years now)
@@karabokhanyile i meant in terms of the actions and subtle things like yawning. I’m sure Sam helped out a lot but she must’ve watched videos or something of people in withdrawal. But that’s really cool to hear about Sam. I think when people say the show glamorize drugs they have no idea what they’re talking about
Laurie is a nutcase and she terrifies me like she shows no emotion and talks like in a monotone voice it’s creepy she’s definitely going to try to pimp out rue. I’m so scared for rue.
I think we should feel bad for Rue to an extent. I understand if people are annoyed and are done with her. But I think we also need to recognise that she would never act like this if she wasn’t an addict. It’s not like with Cassie or Jules who are fully aware of the choices they’re making and make them just for themselves, like.. they’re in their right mind doing it. But with Rue, she’s so dependent on opiates that it’s corrupting her whole being. The reason she started doing drugs in the first place was because of her mental health problems. She was already suffering from those and then her dad died as well, which I think just tipped her over the edge so that she doesn’t even care anymore. In the opening scene she says herself that she not only hates herself but that she also doesn’t recognise herself. And I think it just demonstrates how addiction can turn you into a completely different human being. And as a non addict we will never understand what an addiction will make you do. It just drives you to do the most insane things and you just can’t help it. It’s a bit like suffering from OCD.. you know it’s wrong and you’re trying to tell your brain but you just can’t help doing it. She wants to be clean but she just can’t help herself. She rather does drugs and is one month away from killing herself than „doing that shit forever“ (rehab). Which I think says a lot about what being an addict does to your brain. Whether it’s spilling the tea about Cassie and Nate, getting out of the car or crossing the street, in that moment it’s the only option she sees to get out of a precarious situation. Whatever it is she does, not only does she not care that it doesn’t make her feel good about herself but she also doesn’t care about the way she treats people. I mean the fact that in the end she went to Laurie of all people, is pretty telling that as a drug addict you will do anything that could possibly benefit you. What absolutely breaks my brain though is why on earth they would flush all of the drugs?! Like.. it was a suitcase with drugs worth 10k. They should know that something is going on because hoooow should Rue ever be able to pay for that, literally how. Honestly, I’m more annoyed about Jules than Rue though. This episode just made me dislike her even more. Not only does she cheat on Rue first chance she gets and in such a f*cked up way. But also with the guy she accused Rue of having a crush on. She made this whole thing out of it. And then she realises.. oh my girlfriend isn’t as sexual as me (duuhh who is?) so let’s hook up with this guy who has been lying to my face this whole time. I just got the impression Jules was feeling bad and that’s why she immediately ratted her out without even talking to Rue first. I mean Maddy freaked out about Cassie and Nate so how else would Rue react under these circumstances, finding out that her gf cheated on her. The acting though.. no words. So phenomenal and real that it was hard to watch. Because from experience I can say that’s exactly how an addict behaves. The violence, aggression and desperation.. so I do feel for her. Because as a family member to see someone you love turn into someone you don’t even recognise.. that’s scary. I think it was important for the show to really visualise what addiction will take from a person and their family.
they want to make you understand how it feels to have a drug addict in your own home. Even though, they are family, at one point you will hate them and that's a fact. Having a drug addict around is the hardest. Trying to help someone who doesn't even care about his health and he's self destructive. That's why I don't really hate Rue; I had a cousin who was exactly like that. Also Rue can't stop taking drugs because you can't quit, as we can see in this episode
Also frustrated that the reactor didn't pick up on the small ques and triggers of rue as someone who's been an addict at a young age for a while like the panic the moodswings the withdrawal the small things and comments set you off like and its almost like while your intoxicated you hold all that in but when you start to panic thats it all comes out anger,fear,frustration,self loathing god this episode was so good at portraying that
They shouldn't. They really shouldn't have ever been together in the first place. Rue is WAY too dependent on her, which is very pressuring and triggering for Jules, who had the same relationship with her addicted mother. And Jules obviously wants a very sexually-fulfilling relationship and wants to experiment. Both are bad for each other.
Cassie’s literal AUDACITY to run away like a scardy cat and play the victim calling rue a druggie that’s just LOW. But what can I say cassie been doing that all season. I know rue is an addict, but to make Rue look like a liar when she’s actually telling the truth is some next level manipulation…cassie shouldn’t be calling rue a manipulator when she’s doing it too. Rue might be doing it for drugs but Cassie’s being a hypocrite
Lol... Cassie has gotten on my nerves the entire season, but its really weird how people are acting like Cassie trying to discredit Rue by saying she's a drug addict is the worst thing ever. Rue literally just blew up her life...
i mean rue literally spilled it in front of everyone when cass was jus tryin to help yk, not sayin it’s an excuse of cassie’s behavior but rue’s not in the right place either
Rue wasn't wrong that Jules loves to be loved...alsooo, not the point lol. Jules has also been through an enormous amount of trauma and however I feel about her hooking up with Elliott, Rue can't even remotely be upset about the lack of transparency and honesty when she's been lying to everyone in her life. She's manipulative and too deep in her addiction, she clearly hasn't found her bottom yet & it scares me to imagine what the rest of the season is going to look like if this episode's chaos wasn't enough to shake her.
@@katiemcbain4342 Oh no, of course not. But that's why Rue should have never pursued a relationship with her. All she did was supplement Jules as her drug of choice & that's an impossible position to put someone in. It sucks, I hope they can salvage their friendship.
Laurie set Rue up to fail this whole time ever since that meeting on the first episode. She gave her the drugs knowing Rue will take it or that she won't get her money and pimp her out to pay back the debt. Laurie calmly hints to this by saying as woman there is always something she can "offer". Don't let the calm demeanor fool you she's a business woman after all. As for Rue dropping the bomb on everyone... Rue has always been the narrator for the episodes. She's aware of some things happening around her like when casually called JUUL a whore during the Elliot interrogation and coming across Cassie and Nate but at that time she was using and numbing herself with drugs to really care. Now that her drug use is exposed and she lost all the drugs, she is on flight or fight mode and flying off the handle and lashing out on everyone. Using all the info she knows as a weapon to get herself out of situations and to hurt them as she "feels" she's being hurt. This show does a really good job showing the chaotic spiral someone with substance abuse falls into and the mess they create for everyone else.
Yeah that scene was definitely not her saving grace and I don’t think a lot of people read into it enough it was so dark Laurie was literally setting her up from the beginning.
Laurie being so calm and unemotional makes her way more scary. She does not get mad but she does get her money back, one way or another. She greeted Rue with her legal name Ruby Bennett. Laurie knows her name, she knows where she live, she did a full background check on Rue. People are taking that calm demeanor the wrong way and underestimating Laurie. She is pure evil!
This episode had me at the edge of my couch and I’m so glad that Maddy knows that Cassie slept with nate she might get what she deserves and she broke GIRL Code.
I mean, getting mad for breaking girl code? Debatable. But sleeping with your bestie's *abusive* ex knowing damn well he was abusive to said bestie? Cassie needs to go out and touch some grass fr
@@misssteak1290 honestly I’m glad that’s the only thing that’s being aired out. Maddy better not find out about that abortion Cassie had in season 1 cause she could very well air out her business.
opening scene was insane, we really see the toll addiction has on everyone. Emmys are deserved. I didn’t get when Elliot said I liked rue the way she was bc all their interactions involved drugs :/ i had a feeling Rue would spill Cassie’s secret but didn’t expect it to happen like that, I’m ready for Lexie’s play lol. Seeing that Laurie had other pills but gave Rue morphine was sick. i wonder what Maddy has planned, i saw that tape👀
I think that’s what he means he likes Rue on drugs. Because the whole intervention is to convince Rue to get clean and he’s saying she’s fine on drugs.
I wonder where rue’s connection and relationship with her friends and family goes from here. She literally stole from everyone and exposed secrets and basically burned so many bridges in one episode.
this episode literally felt so long, i was honestly mentally drained afterwards. ngl i like when you talk at the camera cause it's like you're discussing everything with me n i really be engaged lol
I don’t think Elliot is actually an addict, at least not at Rue’s level. While he does like to do drugs a lot, he always seems to know when too much is too much.
Agreed. I think he’s a (heavy) recreational user, not an addict, for the same reason you said - he knows when to stop, he doesn’t go too close to his edge. Seeing Rue almost die and use yet another drug to “jumpstart” her heart may have freaked him out and stayed with him enough to influence his decision to tell on her - that and guilt over doing the drugs with her, enabling her.
honestly i feel like she wasnt scared of laurie, she just really really wanted those damn drugs. thats what happens when u snatch happiness away from a drug addict.
ngl I wasn't completely mad at rue for yelling at Jules bc she made several points imo. I'm glad she said what she said. ( parts of it not all ) and now I need Jules to move on.
I think your comments about Rue's behavior are valid but I think the problem most people have watched this is reconconsiling the idea of the Rue we've grown to know and even like versus the reality of what life is like when you're around a true drug addict, especially going through withdrawal. This isn't Rue this is the addict reacting because the withdrawal is sending her body into overdrive. I've read that some people can, I believe, die from going through withdrawal because the process of purging the drug from your system is so violent. Just think of it, these drugs have tricked Rue's body into believe she needs it to survive. What that drug lord lady, Carol (?) said in the end is true.
exactly, people don't get this isn't really Rue, this is the withdrawal basically talking through her dictating her actions. it's fucking horrible and I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. I was sitting there crying saying to the tv "this isn't you Rue it's the withdrawal"
Thank you for pointing out that Jules has her own life: During the special episode, we see that Jules is still dealing with the repercussions of her own mother being an addict, trying to enter back into her life before she’s ready. I’m actually quite impressed that Jules went to Leslie rather than running from it and ignoring it, the way she got drunk etc. when her mum showed up around Halloween.
this episode was just really raw and hard to watch at times because it seemed so real and intense; I was like damn this opening scene is really heated and then the opening scene turned out to be the whole episode. Zendaya was able to encompass such a vast range of emotions (panic, rage, helplessness, fear, etc.) so well she's definitely getting an Emmy nomination if not a win; she put her whole Zendussy into this episode lmao People understandably love Euphoria for the outlandishness and the shock value it provides, but I feel the strength of the show lies in its characters and this episode is a shining example of that.
I like the show cause of the music, cinematography and acting. Most of the characters are actually very annoying and the writing is a bit inconsistent at times. Only characters I really like are Gia, Fez, Ashtray and Rue. Honorable mention to Faye lol
I think the reason why this is a good episode is because there's no long cinematic artistic shots with heavy background music, most of the episodes from this season feels like a super long music video with very little dialog
Rue had god on her side, the fact that she wasn’t killed or arrested is PURE LUCK. The fact that she caused a whole accident pissed me off, I’m completely done with her, and while u don’t want her to get hurt she needs to face some consequences. I was really scared that the drug lady was not going to let Rue leave her home and sex traffic her to make the money back because she said “when you’re a woman you have something people always want” kind of a weird thing to say, but that would’ve made the show way too dark,
that lady has got to be super evil hiding behind the calm demeanor, because when she opens the drug case to get morphine it looked like she had all kinds of different drugs and pills, but chose to give her drugs she would have to shoot up, on top of mentioning prostitution after saying she doesn't think rue will have her money anytime soon, also a few episodes ago she said she always gets her money back, I bet she will try to pimp her out at some point.
@@ainsleyharriot6030 i mean, she kept rue locked in the house, it just happened to be that rue managed to escape. but i think you can tell that laurie did not at all have the intention of letting the leave
I wish I had the energy of Rue's stans to keep finding different ways to justify Rue's actions through the series and put her responsibility on other people lol
@@アキコ2003 Most of the fandom treat Rue and Jules VERY differently, they totally put aside Jules own mental issues, self-harm, childhood traumas and her recent traumas with Nate, and also dealing with an emotionally dependent and addict girlfriend, which is overwhelming, and only criticizes her for her actions which is fair, since she's toxic too. But most people completely take away any responsibility of Rue's actions and always want to make it about other people or on her mental issues and addiction, when she's been a pretty shitty person to her family and friends. Rue has mental issues, but so does Jules, Jules HAVE to take responsibility for her actions, but so does Rue, they're both toxic for each other. And Jules may have done some bad things, but telling Rue's mother was DEFINITELY not one of them, if Rue kept the suitcase she would've been dead pretty soon.
I feel it’s more people understanding that being a drug addict changes you as a person. So idk if it’s truly justifying her actions or just trying to sympathize with her. You can still hold her accountable though for being a crappy person to her family and friends.
This rue stans/Jules stans is stupid as hell. These are imperfect children characters who make mistakes and both endured pain. Anyone who can’t get that is just mindless.
because I can imagine a lot of people can relate to her, and I see myself in her. I've acted like her, shit isn't as black and white as "not a good person", also just because people emphasize with her doesn't mean we're justifying her actions, it's us noticing it's the effect of the drugs on her. rue isn't like this sober, she's a lovely kind hearted young woman, addiction. fucking. changes. you. people don't know how much truly unless you are an addict.
if you've known someone who struggled with addiction i feel like the whole first part hits more, it had me sobbing less than 10 minutes in. there was no judging her for me it was just heartbreaking
I think we forget that we are watching teenagers. Making dumb decisions. I’m not justifying anyones actions, because every character in this series has made a bad if not a horrible decision. The fact of the matter is… it’s complicated. Nothing about this is okay. There is no protagonists. This is just… life. And Zendaya deserves her second Emmy.
Just want to say rue is snorting heroin ((not cocaine)) I noticed you kept saying that in the videos she is very much in an heavy opiate addiction this episode is trying to highlight the behavior of what it looks like with the outbursts and emotions with that.
and then to say “oh she’s doing too much” and “oh now she wants to cry” . can y’all pls remember that she is an addict. and going thru withdrawal. her emotions will keep changing. that’s the reality of it
1st Jules definitely deserved it, Im so fkn done with her fr 2nd i have to make sure Gia is goin to therapy asap 3rd Fez's reaction when rue pushed him broke my heart 4th Cassie..... idek what to say about ya 5th the acting was good afffffffffffff
My brother is a former drug addict/alcoholic. Watching this episode and being the Gia of my family where I had to watch everything going on (but I didn't FULLY understand it because I was very young and my bro is 12 years older than I am), it's full stop traumatizing. You want to sympathize with Rue because A. she's the lead, essentially and B. It's Zendaya and it's easy to remember "this is acting and this isn't real" when this kind of thing is VERY real and even worse than how it's portrayed on tv. Watching your brother steal money, take my own car and wreck it bc he wanted me to take him on a drug run and I wouldn't, etc. My mom just kept letting it go and it caused fights not only between my parents and my brother, but then also btwn my parents and then btwn me and my parents. I felt no connection to my brother and I missed out, entirely, on a relationship. It does get to a point where you have to say 'enough is enough' and cut them out completely. Finally my parents did, and when they did, it finally made my bro go to rehab. He's 5 years sober now. I am proud of him, but at the same time, I'm still weary because he's been in and out of rehab since he was 16 and he's 50 now. A first time rehab, a second, a third....it doesn't always mean instant healing. So I feel for the sister and the mom that they don't trust Rue. Same with Rue's friends. This episode sent me. It's the hardest thing I've ever had to watch bc of just how real it was, especially from my own experience with family.
Facts! Facts! Facts! I understand your stuggle so much. I've been through this more than three times all with friends I treated like family. It get hard to care form them, cause at some point you just want to save yourself than them cause they drown with them. It along rough process, but Its a growing process. I understand you so much.
@@playboilottie7959 Dude, it gets so tired. You try and you try to help, but if someone doesn't want to get sober, they don't. There comes a point where you just have to let go and hope for the best, you know? Someone who had addiction problems has to want to fix themselves. If anyone forces it, it never works.
@@brooklynnoelle yep it’s just that simple. If they don’t want to help themselves get better then it won’t begin for them. And you get tired when the same behavior’s that take them over happen almost every month it just makes you want to give up on them.
rue hurt fez so bad, his reaction to her doing that made me so sad. i’m just scared because i know he still loves her and would protect her with his life even after all of that, and now rue has got a lady trying to pimp her out for her money & i know that fez will try to protect rue even after all she’s done because like he said at the beginning he sees her as family.
Usually agree with your reactions, but idk about this episode. I get ur annoyed cause believe me anybody would be but you have to have room for disappointment when it comes to Rue and her character. I think we have to understand that Rue is an addict, yes she is a horrible person because drugs make her a horrible person. She’s going to keep making mistakes, creating chaos, and conflicts in her life because she’s heavily influenced by drugs. Her brain now runs with the help of drugs. This is literally her life, I feel like ur not appreciating the realistic behavior that is being portrayed.
I understand rue is an addict and this is the addiction talking i’ve said that multiple times in other reactions. I don’t hate rue and I want rue to win … but how much is someone suppose to take before enough is enough was the point im trying to make. It was just a frustrating episode Maybe you skipped parts cause I literally said I still feel so bad for rue and how realistic this episode was…
shes not a bad person. not only is she an addict but she's also severely bipolar, she's just so fucking sick and scared. also withdrawals are absolute hell, addicts will do anything not to go through withdrawals LMFAOO
Of course she's not a "bad person". The world isn't black-and-white, or split into "good people" and "bad people". But Rue is NOT being a good person at the moment. Yes, it is the drugs, but it's still true.
As someone who has a a lot of family who are addicts, and was one myself. When you watch reactors who are so exhausted after an 1 hour of tv about it. The stress, the pressure, having to grow up quick. It’s 24/7 and this shows just how yes the addicts are hurting. But the families and people effected are doing double time. Cause we have to hold their hurt and ours on top of it. It’s the walking on eggshells cause anything can trigger them. This show is hard to watch sometimes. It hits too close.
this episode had me so over rue that I can’t defend her anymore, I don’t know why the fandom has gotten it so against Jules when Jules compared to rue is literally almost a saint, she accuses Jules of sucking the life out of everyone yet doesn’t see how her lies and manipulation are literally ending all her relationships with her friends and family, because she’s tiring them out, and yes Jules is wrong for cheating but I think Jules just wasn’t feeling that any of the love she was giving to Rue was being reciprocated cause she’s literally high most of the time, and I can tell she genuinely cares about Rue, Jules is mind you still a teenager and Rues sobriety should not be and is not Jules responsibility, her leaving does not put the blame on Jules for Rue doing drugs again.
I’m over Cassie too and have been for a long time, I get that Rue threw her under the bus but to weaponize her addiction to sort of invalidate what she said was super wrong on her part.
As someone was a drug addict it’s hard to watch this shit sometimes. It’s like looking in the mirror. I’ve said awful things to my mother and have physically fought my dad. Now that I’m sober a part of me is definitely happier, like you truly have no idea how amazing it is to be sober unless you’ve spent time feeling like shit fucked up on drugs, but I know deep down that I can never take back the things I’ve said and done to my family and those are regrets I will always carry with me for the rest of my life. They can forgive me but they’ll never forget it. The only thing I can do is make and myself proud by working towards a better future for myself. I’ve also been working on payments towards people I’ve stolen money or “borrowed” from and I’m determined to work my ass off until everyone has their money back. Good luck to everyone who’s trying to live a clean, healthy and sober lifestyle. The journey isn’t easy but it’s worth it in words I can’t even describe.
I really question how Rue's mom hasn't kicked her out yet cause I know damn well my mom would've had my bags packed and on the curb. I understand loving someone but doing drugs, breaking property, stealing from other people? It's game over in my household if you did one of those things let alone all 3 💀 (Edit: For some reason y'all took it as me saying Rue should be kicked out. All I'm saying is no parent I know/in my family would've put up with what Rue has done. Rue has hurt so many people, her mother and sister especially.)
for one her mom doesn’t know about any of the stealing or anything she did that night and for two. clearly you don’t have children. it’s not “loving someone” it’s loving your child. she’s not a killer or anything so she’s redeemable, she has a disease that’s not gonna be fixed by her mother kicking her out she wouldn’t even have anywhere to go.
Agreed! Especially as Leslie, in this episode in particular, had to weigh the safety of Gia over Rue’s continued presence in the home. You saw the panic when she suddenly thought Gia may have been getting high with Rue.
I feel like people don’t get that Rue isn’t JUST freaking out because she owes those people money. She’s freaking out because her last dose was probably hours ago, and she knows she’s about to be plunged into full withdrawal. That’s why she doesn’t mention Laurie or the money. She doesn’t care. She ONLY cares about keeping herself from getting sick at this point. As a recovering opiate addict this scene hit me SO hard because of how relatable it is.
i don't think rue going to laurie was a good idea AT ALL the insinuation that laurie made about rue being able to get money in other ways by being a woman was straight up a threat and probably the locked room has some girl bein held hostage plus: she said to rue that only had morphine and didnt had any pills but then we see the suitcase full of pills laurie has a plan for rue and not a good one, the amount of times that she needled rue was to give her a junkie mark.. rue is FUCKED
Holy cow, I didn’t even notice the suitcase of pills. Like I was already uneasy with how Laurie got the morphine out before Rue even agreed to it (especially after her comments) but her also having pills makes it so much more sinister. It’s really not too much of a surprise though, because she straight up told Rue when she first gave her the suitcase that if Rue didn’t pay up that Laurie would sell her to make her money back. I’ve been kinda worried that’s where the show was heading ever since then.
Cassie really played herself.. like all she had to do was stay quiet!😩🤦🏾♀️ But I agree, this is one of the best Euphoria episodes. The drama, emotions and suspense were so good!
First of all I'm so happy we got an episode like this! Ep. 4 kinda dragged the Maddy/Cassie lie and the Cal backstory bit and I was worried it was gonna continue but no. EVERYTHING spilled. Second of all I feel like there's no hope for Rue at this point. She's on the verge of doing jail time and Laurie having her trafficked. I'm scared that Laurie and the others might raid her house.
it's important to remember here that Rue is an addict. The way people speak about Rue is very telling to the insensitive, incorrect and nasty ways people view and treat addicts. This was rue's addiction doing this, not the essence of who Rue truly is. That's the whole point of this episode. Addiction detroys not only the person, but also impacts the people who love the addict. It's a hard, tragic, complicated, powerful thing. It can't be boiled down to someone being a good or bad person, and it's harmful to try to do so. And another thing, very weird for people to encourage Rue being horrible to Jules. You think it's cool to throw the fact that Jules is craving and searching for honest and real love in her face? Like she isn't a trans woman? As if there are lines and lines and crowds of people that are lined up and ready to love a trans woman loudly and freely? Of course that's something she's going to crave for and search for. The world is full of Nate Jacobs who are quick to reject and say and do disgusting things because of the fact that she's trans. But sure Jules is an attention seeker, HOw DarE SHE WaNT RESpecT AND FOR SOMeonE TO ValUE HeR!! nah but i am JUST SAYING, the heteronormativity jumped out here for sure! Also, they're literally children so there's that. ALSO I'm speaking generally here because I've seen so much crazy discourse. Love your videos!!!
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@@jaymeetsworld1 Waiting for the next episode is giving me more anxiety than Rue.
alexa demie does rage very well like her voice was TREMBLING
I was shocked!!! Alexa didn’t come to play this season
@@jaymeetsworld1 when said RUE! I knew cassie was done
The *acting* 💋👌🏼
For whatever reason I feel she is the same in real life lol. She looks like she explodes when she is pissed.
@@jaymeetsworld1 she ate up all the rage in season one with the whole nate abuse situation
The whole time I was just feeling bad for Gia. She doesn’t deserve to go through all of this trauma at such a young age :/
I feel like anything in her life takes a backseat to what’s happening to Rue. And her mom seems to put a lot of responsibility on her to take care of Rue. I know they’re sisters and this may sound harsh, but it is not Gia’s responsibility to monitor Rue. Her mom got so mad at Gia when she thought she knew about Rue doing heavy drugs (even though she didn’t know), even though Rue had obviously been acting suspicious for weeks. And when that scene came up where Leslie told Gia to help get off her phone and help her look for Rue while they were driving, I really felt for her because I can tell she feels like she always has to focus on her drug addict sister. That’s too much for a child to handle.
@@mikayladanielle exactly, it made me so fricking sad because shes been living in their fights for her whole life, when its not even about her, and when Leslie heard Rues been smoking weed, they both blame Gia for it, when shes literally like 15 and trying to survive the trauma that has been put onto her because of her family fighting cuz of Rues addiction. As someone who lives in a situation thats quite similar, except the addiction, it made me almost cry. sorry if i made any grammatical or any other mistakes :,)
@@mikayladanielle I noticed that too
@@mikayladanielle my exact life with my older brother being the younger and we’ve had this exact family fight down to certain lines lol I felt bad for rue tho she deserves some sympathy
Literally cass wouldn't have been caught if she hadn't started sobbing crying hyperventilating on the spot LMAO
like girl didn’t even try to lie PROPERLY
NO poker face
Cassie really tried to “live laugh love” Rue 😂 like no wonder your life is in shambles girl, you’re getting motivation from Pinterest quotes 😩
LMAOOOOOO 😂😩😂 but really
Hahahahahahah so true.
The Laurie scene is frightening. For people not reading between the lines, she’s not helping Rue. She wants to sell her. Everything she’s said has been a hint to what her intentions are. Rue’s extremely vulnerable and in a lot of pain. The pain of withdrawal is like living hell. That’s why it’s so hard to get clean, you don’t just get a little sick, you feel like your skin is on fire and your being twisted from the inside out. You will do ANYTHING to get relief from that pain. Laurie is basically telling Rue that she no longer feels emotion, which is how she’s able to be a predator. She doesn’t feel guilt anymore. Laurie plays sweet but she’s purposely turning Rue into an IV drug user. She’s cleaning her up and telling her as a woman she still has something people want. She also tells Rue you aren’t in a state of mind where you are going to go make my money for me. Everything Laurie is doing points to one thing, she’s going to keep Rue high and sell her. I promise the day Rue came to her with the plan she knew Rue would mess up. When she said that she knew that first night they’d be in each other’s lives for awhile she had plans for Rue.
Although Rue escaped, that’s too easy. I still think Laurie is going to get to get to her.
I didn’t think about how Laurie would want to sell Rue but, she did tell Rue she would sell her to some bad people if Rue didn’t give her her money 🤔. I was reading between the lines too, never trust a drug dealer and I guess never trust a drug addict 😅
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It blows my mind that people thought Lori was trying to help Rue, when she blatantly told Rue, you can still sell your body. Lori lied about having pills while getting the morphine out, held Rue captive (like the birds- that’s why they kept showing shots of them, guys);;
Rue going to Lori after everything this episode is supposed to show Rue at her lowest point. It’s not Rue finding someone she can trust, it’s someone who truly doesn’t care about her.
Everyone knows
@@milkflavored this!!! and laurie explicitly saying she’d have rue kidnapped and sold to some real sick people if rue tries to trick her
I 100% agree with you on all of this.
I really feel that people who are thinking that Laurie was helping Rue are people who are still very young & naive to the realities of the world.
Which in all honesty, Rue is too.
At the end of the day, we have to remember one very important thing about Rue, she's still only 17 years old.
lexi asking cassie if she wants to go on a walk whilst everyone is swearing, yelling and crying around her is just the most lexi howard thing ever
They kinda downplayed the whole Maddie finding out thing but the way Rue said it with so much audacity SENT MEEEEEEEEEEEE
I was thinking this…. BUT i feel like with this next episode really focusing on it we will see it explode
Nah they didn't, this just wasn't the Maddie and Cassie ep, it's rue's. Watch ep 6 trailer to see
@@idkmane5650 i don’t think they downplayed it, I just don’t think this was a time for it like Lexi and Cassie‘s mom said and like Rue’s mom said
I don't think it was downplayed, it was more so realistic. Maddy's not going to directly assault Cassie in her family's house while her sister and mother are right next to her. On top of that Rue's situation was unravelling and other witnesses were present. Maddy had to refrain herself as much as possible, (obviously afterwards she let it all out and chased her). If anything Cassie was very lucky that Maddy found out in this exact setting, as it slightly mitigated the consequences (but we'll see shit hit the fan on the next episode per the trailer). Also when your BF betrays you, you're in such disbelief that you can't even express your anger properly.
I think they downplayed it deliberately to show that Maddie and Cassie's drama seems so small and high school compared to Rue
This episode collectively punched us all in the face but when rue SMACKED ELLIOT ON THE FOREHEAD? I have to laugh 😂
lol he deserved it and more!!!!
Elliot was the problem, I was sick and tired of him😭
im a recovered heroin addict . yes the entire downward spiral and hurting the ones that love you the most is very realistic . Zendaya does an amazing job. so many moments in this took me back
Recovered alcoholic, I couldn’t agree anymore.Excellent depiction.
@unknown11 How are you doing after this episode? This episode was a lot to take in.
@@Destyn2b I’m ok thanks. ! I’ve been sober for a decade now but it for sure helped me remember how far I’ve come .i feel for Rue and especially her little sister / mom . I can tell the director is an addict so many things hit so close to home
i think rue crying in between her yelling, portrays that she's so stuck between wanting to be a better person, yet still not able to let go of her addict part. i don't like how people looked past her crying and apologising as just her wanting her suitcase, there's sm more there
same. I can tell how many people are not addicts by how they're acting like Rue is more worried about the money than the looming threat of withdrawal. If someone stole my drugs while I was addicted I'd have considered that attempted murder, definitely not a friend trying to help.
Oh no baby it is that deep.. Laurie even said when she was going through withdrawals she would do anything to get more drugs and she said it's good they're women because they have something else people want. Laurie purposefully gave Rue intravenous morphine bc she wants her hooked on the needle and she'll come and do anything for Laurie to get a fix so ya Laurie was deff ready to pimp rue out... Prayers to my girl for the rest of this season bc Laurie gonna want that money back soon.
That’s what I was thinking. She was trying to create a space where Rue felt safe to come back and also wanted to get her hooked on IV use. That’s why she woke up fully clothed in a room all alone. Once addicts start doing IV, it’s game over.
Im so scared. I know Zendaya said the show was getting darker but if I have to see sex trafficking this season idk what imma do
Not to mention the locked doors in the apartment. Just read a comment about scratching coming from behind the doors. The 42min mark confirms. smh . THE ANXIETY
It isn't even something you need to "read into" as something "deep". It was made pretty obvious. "You don't look like someone who will come up with money soon" on top of the "as a woman, you'll always have something people want" line.
Laurie is a business-minded criminal with no conscience, and the writers even spell that out obviously for the audience, that she's a psychopath with no conscience (no anger, no emotions). She administered morphine through her veins (a far more addictive way of using compared to ingestion or snorting). This is the most typical way to own sex slaves.
Laurie was in the process of turning Rue into a sex slave, and it wasn't "something deep" to read into. Rue just narrowly escaped that fate.
if you listen closely behind the locked doors in the house, it’s sounds like ppl scratching behind the door. i think she’s already pimping girls out. and rues tolerance was higher than laurie thought, that’s how she woke up. i also think that the birds are a coverup for the noises and alerts for the girls being kept there…. idk… just a theory. i see a laurie raid coming.
Rue's a bipolar addict, I saw a tiktok comment that explained it really well some people see Rue crying moments as manipulation, but Rue means every word she says, it's just how her mind works all the ups and downs and depending on drugs to get through life - i just felt sad for Rue the entire episode
okay this makes sense …
@@jaymeetsworld1 yeah plus also in the first episode she says all her problems she us bipolar,ocd and has social anxiety I forgot the others
Yeah my family member was a bipolar addict too and it was literally exactly like that. I could predict his up and down cycles like the back of my hand. And it is also manipulation at the same time, because they use their emotions to get substances, even in their despair.
She does NOT mean every word she says. She is going through withdraws and just doing anything to get drugs. Like Fez said, "Never take what an addict says seriously." That was the whole theme of this episode. She was spiraling because of the drugs, that's what drugs do to you. Turn you into someone you are noy.
@@ipurpleu1668 when I’m referring to every word she says… I’m mean when she would break down in between screaming and yelling. When she would break down crying and apologizing, she was meaning everything she said. While some viewers may take that as manipulation but that’s how Rue was truly feeling but the yelling, etc. was her wanting the drugs / frustration of the suitcase being gone
She is not a bad person. If people are judging her while using and abusing drugs, understand that that is not her true character. People turn into something they don't recognize and do things they would never do if sober. And it doesn't matter is she is high at the moment or not, she is addicted. DRUG ADDICTION IS A DISEASE, it would be like saying that a person with alzheimer's disease or schizophrenia is a bad person. Their brain is literally not working as it should. They need to be stable in order to show their true self. This whole episode (maybe season) was the drugs talking, not Rue. She needs help, not judgement.
I mean can you truly blame her mother for calling her a bad person? All Leslie tries to do is help and support her an offer whatever tools she can and all Rue does is yell at her and call her terrible things and break things in her house and gaslight her little sister, obviously at some point she’s going to start to believe that maybe this is just who her child does now.
For the rest of us as viewers there is sympathy but I think we can be angry and disappointed in Rue and still not villainize or make fun of the illness that is addiction and I think that’s a balance a lot of people are yet to find
@@NyikoDoris exactly, i feel alot of sympathy for everyone bc they have so much trauma in their life’s that they haven’t worked on. unfortunately most of them don’t know how to handle it and at the end of the day it’s their job to learn how to cope in a healthier way. that’s apart of being human, we all don’t have the answers and we are all learning as we go and unfortunately, hurting ourselves and others as we go. these characters show how dual and paradoxical humans are. they show the true nature of being human. we all carry dark and light aspects of ourselves. this is life, the thing that matters most is understanding we are all human and showing love and compassion and understand that alot of us are functioning off of trauma but with that being said it’s okay to love someone but never okay excusing their behaviors that harm themselves, you and others.
no she chose to do drugs so she must bear the consequences. Lets not pretend this isnt rue’s fault to begin with. She did it to herself and thats on that. Nothing more
@@goddesshudgens580 she didn't choose to be addicted to it though?? It's not as simple as "it's her fault, she chose to do drugs", shit is much more complicated than that
Lots of husbands beat their wives in front of their kids when they go on a tantrum without their drugs but using your logic we should just tell their kids that they shouldn’t judge Daddy since he’s addicted and that is not his true character
Just the Intro alone…made my skin crawl with chills…cause Zendaya’s performance was insane…
LITERALLY INSANE. give her, her second emmy now
Yea it was the most uncomfortable scene in the episode. The acting is INCREDIBLE
" you still a black girl, they will shoot you for fun"....I was thinking the same thing watching this episode.
like baby girl was TOOO lucky this episode
The scenes with the cops proved she isn't a Black girl because she wouldn't have the opportunity to run. We really need to stop vicariously living through biracial girls it's embarrassing.
@@charmaineespeut4627 kind of agree. If Rue was played by a fully black or dark skinned actress the cop scene would have felt WAY scarier. For sure she would have been shot. But Zendaya literally looks biracial. She would have just been cuffed and sent to the station. I’m not even trying to invalidate her blackness, but it’s the truth
@@charmaineespeut4627 girl who cares she is still black. Black people always want to stay divided. White peoples see her as black not mixed or white. Nobody is living vicariously through biracial people. If you don’t know who you are as a black person that is a personal problem to you. Rihanna and Beyoncé are biracial but I bet you see them as black🙄
I’m dead Rue was Hulking out, tearing down the whole back of the house and literally terrorizing her mom and sister while Jules and Elliott were just chilling in the living room listening
That’s something I didn’t know for a while but drug addicts who are addicted to hard drugs get these moments of like super strength idk if it’s the adrenaline or something but it’s wild
Rue was not high in the opening but that is withdrawal that's why she's acting that way. Withdrawal is very very ugly unless you've been through it you won't understand. Usually opiate withdrawal onset is within 24 hours or less. The things you will deal with is. Paranoia, anxiety, fear, worsening of depression, diarrhea, vomiting (sometimes at the same exact time both ends are going) body aches, runny nose, sneezing, coughing, sleeplessness, restless leg and arms when you try to sleep. And there is a lot of anger you're not mad at anyone just the fact your body is asking for more drugs. These effects can last for weeks to months. The emotional withdrawal can be years. There are two stages of withdrawal there is the physical withdrawal then the emotional you will have to deal with both. So you must understand where Rue was coming from. Trust me when I say you'll do whatever it takes to avoid the long restless nights of withdrawal. You're up all night in panic and severe depression your achy you're tired your head hurts you're puking and shitting all night and shaking.
I hope this gives some insight to people who don't know everything about withdrawal. Its not just puking.
and people still call addicts weak and selfish 😔
Y'all that scene where Rue slapped Elliot on the head😭😭that was so funny to me. Like how he gon sit there and say "I liked Rue the way she was. I never should've said anything" then drop a crocodile tear and go for a smoke like are u the sad one here?
He is so manipulative
the way this is the best episode this season because it focused on just Rue and not all the characters like the previous episodes
EXACTLY!!! i didn’t need another cal focused episode like …
Absolutely! And it seems like Sam worked on his writing because the writing was good in this one. E4 felt like he saved all of the writing for Cal’s speech.
@@jarenfromvenus His writing was fine in the other ones too... for some reason when it comes to this show, bad writing = your favorite characters not doing what you want them to do.
@@jordancharles8598 That’s not bad writing to me. This episode surrounded 1 character and I said the writing was good. Rue was literally doing back to back things that I didn’t want her to do. Lol
I just want to add to Rue's reaction to the suitcase missing that I just realized. . Yes, she knows she will be in trouble with Laurie. Yes, she is an addict but also in the previous episode we saw a beautiful performance where Rue was able to connect, speak and hold her father again. Taking those drugs away, takes that experience away and Rue will do whatever it takes to be near her father again.
Her delusion of him even told her she was a good person even when she felt she wasn't. Her mother telling her the opposite had to absolutely destroy Rue in that moment.
hmmm I didn’t think of it that way … good point
@@jaymeetsworld1 girl rewatch the episode in a addicts point of view i swear you will understand rues character so much more and the small ques and triggers that happen threw out her interactions and her moodswings 🙏
@@tanaka-kunthelazy4995 because this is an initial reaction and im saying the first thing that comes to mind in that moment it will differ from my later thoughts after getting a chance to process it.. I don think my frustration with rue is unjustified. I think just like her mother and gia theres a right to be frustrated because as non addicts, we dont understand. There are many times I see things form rue's perspective and I try to change back and forth from everyones but in that family scene moment I was seeing it more from the families because we dont see them often.
@@jaymeetsworld1 but as a person even in the simple context of shes a bipolar addict from our pov and following her perceptive since the beginning it was very clear that the reason she was so hooked on drugs was because she couldn't cope with her fathers death and maintain the will to be there at once even when it came to jules it was like a drug for her to get addicted on so understandably in rues head in this episode is where are the drugs that's all she has her lifeline its what kept her there distracted from all her bottled up feelings she hasn't been able to express since jules left she's stuck in the emotions of a child and her mentality seems to change from child to young adult multiple times threw out the show
@@jaymeetsworld1 i think its also the reason her mom has been able to manage being there for her so well as well as gia this is the real her the her that they know the her they want to help the childish temper tantrum kid who just wants to be okay and for everything to be quite for a little also threw out the show she shrugs off her past but only because she cant confront it instead she focuses on everyone else and what they have going on how does it benefit her and her situation she collects all this info as a distraction from her own life
Unfortunately, growing up with an addict increases your chances of surrounding yourself with individuals with the same illnesses. Jules should break off everything with her inner circle because they represent everything wrong with her Mom, but she craves the ‘normalcy’.
Honestly, probably an unpopular opinion, I think Rue's explosion on Jules is kind of justified. Jules has been super hypocritical in the relationship, especially when she got on Rue about how Elliot wants to get with Rue. Rue surely picked up on the fact that they had atleast done something together, not just the ratting out and thats why she got so explosive. The really only two friends she had turned around and cheated and hurt Rue. Do I think Rue should've hid her relapse and still done drugs as frequently as she did? No. Am I supporting her for fueling her addiction? No. But I think she just hit her breaking point, especially while withdrawing. I think Rue and Jules should stay split, atleast until they both can handle their own trauma and get help.
Edit: I also genuinely blame Elliot too, his character was literally out to break up the pair, so its not completely all on Jules. He knew what he was doing from the start.
I don’t disagree … after thinking about it, it made sense. In that moment it just felt very harsh cause at the end of the day jules just wants rue to be clean
EXACTLY
I agree 100% Rue was hella out of pocket but she was making some valid points about Jules. I’m glad that she finally brought up the train and how she felt about that night because they’ve literally never talked about it and it felt like the first time Rue finally got all of it out of her system about all the crappy things Jules had done since they’ve known each other. With that said, Jules was totally right to tell Rue’s mom.
@@jaymeetsworld1 That's true, I totally get that. When I first seen that scene I was in shock. But the more I've thought about it, I can really understand Rue's frustration and anger. I understand Jules wanted Rue clean, but she picked the worst way and time to do it.
@@W4TSKY Exactly. Jules did the right thing, just literally the worst timing. But I'm glad they're finally separating and Rue got out all her frustrations she couldn't get out before.
so much for Cassie being crazier 🤣🤣🤣 .. this whole episode was giving me major season 1 vibes, especially that opening scene.
Cassie telling Maddy not to believe Rue because she’s a drug addict knowing she telling the truth was one of the lowest things I’ve heard on this show yet. I’m surprised Rue didn’t snap back at her for that, and I’m surprised nobody talks about Cassie saying that.
Favorite episode so far is the one where Nate wasn’t seen once.. ✨blessed✨.
I literally didn’t notice he wasn’t there 😂😂
ppl keep saying that what rue said to jules was justified and tbh while whether it was true or not, jules didn’t deserve to see yet another person in her life be a victim to addiction like that; also if miss zendaya don’t have an Emmy in her hands for this performance by the end of the year there’s finna be a problem
I just have to say that as a former addict that zendaya like did her research. This was honestly the most realistic opiate withdrawal I’ve seen on TV. This whole episode was amazing to see how much she’s grown as an actress
Zendaya didn't have to do research,the creator of the show (Sam Levinson) is a recovering addict and has been clean since 19 years old (which is now I think 17 years now)
@@karabokhanyile i meant in terms of the actions and subtle things like yawning. I’m sure Sam helped out a lot but she must’ve watched videos or something of people in withdrawal. But that’s really cool to hear about Sam. I think when people say the show glamorize drugs they have no idea what they’re talking about
@@JL0ndon yeah I agree,but the ATX interview/panel they did in 2019 on TH-cam Z admitted that she 100% relies on Sam for knowledge
@@karabokhanyile do you have a link? I wanna see that interview
@@TheSuperNats Here you go m.th-cam.com/video/NZv1Gc9DleY/w-d-xo.html
a demon for real took over Z's face when she said "fuck you" to Leslie fkjsdfj I was genuinely scared 😩 "okay well close your eyes" 😭😭😭
zendaya isn’t playing … THIS IS HER MOMENT
Did anyone else notice that Laurie lied and she actually did have a bunch of pills in that suitcase?
I only realized this after when i was editing 😩
It's so she can get her hooked on morphine, so she can pimp her out.
Laurie is a nutcase and she terrifies me like she shows no emotion and talks like in a monotone voice it’s creepy she’s definitely going to try to pimp out rue. I’m so scared for rue.
@@amberf2110 she is a predator for sure.
I think we should feel bad for Rue to an extent. I understand if people are annoyed and are done with her. But I think we also need to recognise that she would never act like this if she wasn’t an addict.
It’s not like with Cassie or Jules who are fully aware of the choices they’re making and make them just for themselves, like.. they’re in their right mind doing it. But with Rue, she’s so dependent on opiates that it’s corrupting her whole being.
The reason she started doing drugs in the first place was because of her mental health problems. She was already suffering from those and then her dad died as well, which I think just tipped her over the edge so that she doesn’t even care anymore. In the opening scene she says herself that she not only hates herself but that she also doesn’t recognise herself. And I think it just demonstrates how addiction can turn you into a completely different human being. And as a non addict we will never understand what an addiction will make you do. It just drives you to do the most insane things and you just can’t help it. It’s a bit like suffering from OCD.. you know it’s wrong and you’re trying to tell your brain but you just can’t help doing it. She wants to be clean but she just can’t help herself. She rather does drugs and is one month away from killing herself than „doing that shit forever“ (rehab). Which I think says a lot about what being an addict does to your brain. Whether it’s spilling the tea about Cassie and Nate, getting out of the car or crossing the street, in that moment it’s the only option she sees to get out of a precarious situation. Whatever it is she does, not only does she not care that it doesn’t make her feel good about herself but she also doesn’t care about the way she treats people. I mean the fact that in the end she went to Laurie of all people, is pretty telling that as a drug addict you will do anything that could possibly benefit you.
What absolutely breaks my brain though is why on earth they would flush all of the drugs?! Like.. it was a suitcase with drugs worth 10k. They should know that something is going on because hoooow should Rue ever be able to pay for that, literally how.
Honestly, I’m more annoyed about Jules than Rue though. This episode just made me dislike her even more. Not only does she cheat on Rue first chance she gets and in such a f*cked up way. But also with the guy she accused Rue of having a crush on. She made this whole thing out of it. And then she realises.. oh my girlfriend isn’t as sexual as me (duuhh who is?) so let’s hook up with this guy who has been lying to my face this whole time. I just got the impression Jules was feeling bad and that’s why she immediately ratted her out without even talking to Rue first.
I mean Maddy freaked out about Cassie and Nate so how else would Rue react under these circumstances, finding out that her gf cheated on her.
The acting though.. no words. So phenomenal and real that it was hard to watch. Because from experience I can say that’s exactly how an addict behaves. The violence, aggression and desperation.. so I do feel for her. Because as a family member to see someone you love turn into someone you don’t even recognise.. that’s scary. I think it was important for the show to really visualise what addiction will take from a person and their family.
they want to make you understand how it feels to have a drug addict in your own home. Even though, they are family, at one point you will hate them and that's a fact. Having a drug addict around is the hardest. Trying to help someone who doesn't even care about his health and he's self destructive. That's why I don't really hate Rue; I had a cousin who was exactly like that. Also Rue can't stop taking drugs because you can't quit, as we can see in this episode
Also frustrated that the reactor didn't pick up on the small ques and triggers of rue as someone who's been an addict at a young age for a while like the panic the moodswings the withdrawal the small things and comments set you off like and its almost like while your intoxicated you hold all that in but when you start to panic thats it all comes out anger,fear,frustration,self loathing god this episode was so good at portraying that
Euphoria shows what drugs do to people and zendaya's acting showed this perfectly but the way how rue exposed cassie I screeched lmao SPEECHLESS
RUE AND JULES ARE DONE like I seriously can’t see them get back together after this 😧
it’ll be a loooooong road back if they do
They shouldn't. They really shouldn't have ever been together in the first place. Rue is WAY too dependent on her, which is very pressuring and triggering for Jules, who had the same relationship with her addicted mother. And Jules obviously wants a very sexually-fulfilling relationship and wants to experiment. Both are bad for each other.
Cassie’s literal AUDACITY to run away like a scardy cat and play the victim calling rue a druggie that’s just LOW. But what can I say cassie been doing that all season. I know rue is an addict, but to make Rue look like a liar when she’s actually telling the truth is some next level manipulation…cassie shouldn’t be calling rue a manipulator when she’s doing it too. Rue might be doing it for drugs but Cassie’s being a hypocrite
Lol... Cassie has gotten on my nerves the entire season, but its really weird how people are acting like Cassie trying to discredit Rue by saying she's a drug addict is the worst thing ever. Rue literally just blew up her life...
IKR. I can’t understand how can people still defend Cassie. Probably they have never been betrayed by people they love.
i mean rue literally spilled it in front of everyone when cass was jus tryin to help yk, not sayin it’s an excuse of cassie’s behavior but rue’s not in the right place either
@@c111ndie she’s not, but I don’t know how to perceive what cassie is saying at the moment? Same with rue to be honest
Rue wasn't wrong that Jules loves to be loved...alsooo, not the point lol. Jules has also been through an enormous amount of trauma and however I feel about her hooking up with Elliott, Rue can't even remotely be upset about the lack of transparency and honesty when she's been lying to everyone in her life. She's manipulative and too deep in her addiction, she clearly hasn't found her bottom yet & it scares me to imagine what the rest of the season is going to look like if this episode's chaos wasn't enough to shake her.
I agree rue dropped some facts.. but yes i’m terrified for the rest of the season
Thank you for being honest, they are both the problem and they should have never gotten together.
I mean yeah but they both are entitled to their feelings its just not their right to treat each other like shit you know. But yes sooo scared for rue
@@katiemcbain4342 Oh no, of course not. But that's why Rue should have never pursued a relationship with her. All she did was supplement Jules as her drug of choice & that's an impossible position to put someone in. It sucks, I hope they can salvage their friendship.
Laurie set Rue up to fail this whole time ever since that meeting on the first episode. She gave her the drugs knowing Rue will take it or that she won't get her money and pimp her out to pay back the debt. Laurie calmly hints to this by saying as woman there is always something she can "offer". Don't let the calm demeanor fool you she's a business woman after all.
As for Rue dropping the bomb on everyone... Rue has always been the narrator for the episodes. She's aware of some things happening around her like when casually called JUUL a whore during the Elliot interrogation and coming across Cassie and Nate but at that time she was using and numbing herself with drugs to really care.
Now that her drug use is exposed and she lost all the drugs, she is on flight or fight mode and flying off the handle and lashing out on everyone. Using all the info she knows as a weapon to get herself out of situations and to hurt them as she "feels" she's being hurt. This show does a really good job showing the chaotic spiral someone with substance abuse falls into and the mess they create for everyone else.
Yeah that scene was definitely not her saving grace and I don’t think a lot of people read into it enough it was so dark Laurie was literally setting her up from the beginning.
Laurie being so calm and unemotional makes her way more scary. She does not get mad but she does get her money back, one way or another. She greeted Rue with her legal name Ruby Bennett. Laurie knows her name, she knows where she live, she did a full background check on Rue. People are taking that calm demeanor the wrong way and underestimating Laurie. She is pure evil!
This episode had me at the edge of my couch and I’m so glad that Maddy knows that Cassie slept with nate she might get what she deserves and she broke GIRL Code.
completely broke it!!
I mean, getting mad for breaking girl code? Debatable. But sleeping with your bestie's *abusive* ex knowing damn well he was abusive to said bestie? Cassie needs to go out and touch some grass fr
@@misssteak1290 honestly I’m glad that’s the only thing that’s being aired out. Maddy better not find out about that abortion Cassie had in season 1 cause she could very well air out her business.
opening scene was insane, we really see the toll addiction has on everyone. Emmys are deserved. I didn’t get when Elliot said I liked rue the way she was bc all their interactions involved drugs :/
i had a feeling Rue would spill Cassie’s secret but didn’t expect it to happen like that, I’m ready for Lexie’s play lol. Seeing that Laurie had other pills but gave Rue morphine was sick. i wonder what Maddy has planned, i saw that tape👀
I think that’s what he means he likes Rue on drugs. Because the whole intervention is to convince Rue to get clean and he’s saying she’s fine on drugs.
I wonder where rue’s connection and relationship with her friends and family goes from here. She literally stole from everyone and exposed secrets and basically burned so many bridges in one episode.
this episode literally felt so long, i was honestly mentally drained afterwards.
ngl i like when you talk at the camera cause it's like you're discussing everything with me n i really be engaged lol
lol i got you!!!!
I don’t think Elliot is actually an addict, at least not at Rue’s level. While he does like to do drugs a lot, he always seems to know when too much is too much.
im pretty sure hes a high functioning drug addict
Agreed. I think he’s a (heavy) recreational user, not an addict, for the same reason you said - he knows when to stop, he doesn’t go too close to his edge. Seeing Rue almost die and use yet another drug to “jumpstart” her heart may have freaked him out and stayed with him enough to influence his decision to tell on her - that and guilt over doing the drugs with her, enabling her.
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Yes he can stop if he wants and Rue can't. Rue left drugs for him in the bathroom but he didn't take it, he blew it away.
@@lestranged omg that’s what he was doing? i didn’t know that’s what was going on, i feel so dumb🤦🏾♀️😂😂
Rue really said "🏃♀" this episode
she’s a runner she’s a track star!!!
@@jaymeetsworld1 im just so proud she still getting some cardio tho
honestly i feel like she wasnt scared of laurie, she just really really wanted those damn drugs. thats what happens when u snatch happiness away from a drug addict.
I was STUCK!! Bc cassie was trying to give some helpful advice and got her business aired out 😂
The memes that came out of this episode on Twitter had me crying lmao
euphoria memes never disappoint 😂😩
ngl I wasn't completely mad at rue for yelling at Jules bc she made several points imo. I'm glad she said what she said. ( parts of it not all ) and now I need Jules to move on.
I think your comments about Rue's behavior are valid but I think the problem most people have watched this is reconconsiling the idea of the Rue we've grown to know and even like versus the reality of what life is like when you're around a true drug addict, especially going through withdrawal. This isn't Rue this is the addict reacting because the withdrawal is sending her body into overdrive. I've read that some people can, I believe, die from going through withdrawal because the process of purging the drug from your system is so violent. Just think of it, these drugs have tricked Rue's body into believe she needs it to survive. What that drug lord lady, Carol (?) said in the end is true.
You actually can’t die from opioid withdrawal, but it makes you feel so terrible that you want to die. Benzos and alcohol withdrawal you can die from
exactly, people don't get this isn't really Rue, this is the withdrawal basically talking through her dictating her actions. it's fucking horrible and I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. I was sitting there crying saying to the tv "this isn't you Rue it's the withdrawal"
I was waiting for Maddy to Wolverine scratch Cassie up with those acrylics but unfortunately that’s not happening today.
Next episode hopefully 😭-
Every time she got close, I flinched - Cassie was in the danger zone!
Thank you for pointing out that Jules has her own life: During the special episode, we see that Jules is still dealing with the repercussions of her own mother being an addict, trying to enter back into her life before she’s ready. I’m actually quite impressed that Jules went to Leslie rather than running from it and ignoring it, the way she got drunk etc. when her mum showed up around Halloween.
this episode was just really raw and hard to watch at times because it seemed so real and intense; I was like damn this opening scene is really heated and then the opening scene turned out to be the whole episode.
Zendaya was able to encompass such a vast range of emotions (panic, rage, helplessness, fear, etc.) so well she's definitely getting an Emmy nomination if not a win; she put her whole Zendussy into this episode lmao
People understandably love Euphoria for the outlandishness and the shock value it provides, but I feel the strength of the show lies in its characters and this episode is a shining example of that.
absolutely agree!! zendaya and the whole cast knock it out every sunday!!!
I like the show cause of the music, cinematography and acting. Most of the characters are actually very annoying and the writing is a bit inconsistent at times. Only characters I really like are Gia, Fez, Ashtray and Rue. Honorable mention to Faye lol
Not the zendussy. Jail!
I think the reason why this is a good episode is because there's no long cinematic artistic shots with heavy background music, most of the episodes from this season feels like a super long music video with very little dialog
rue gave cassie the “I know your ass ain’t laughing rn” 😭😭
Rue had god on her side, the fact that she wasn’t killed or arrested is PURE LUCK. The fact that she caused a whole accident pissed me off, I’m completely done with her, and while u don’t want her to get hurt she needs to face some consequences. I was really scared that the drug lady was not going to let Rue leave her home and sex traffic her to make the money back because she said “when you’re a woman you have something people always want” kind of a weird thing to say, but that would’ve made the show way too dark,
that lady has got to be super evil hiding behind the calm demeanor, because when she opens the drug case to get morphine it looked like she had all kinds of different drugs and pills, but chose to give her drugs she would have to shoot up, on top of mentioning prostitution after saying she doesn't think rue will have her money anytime soon, also a few episodes ago she said she always gets her money back, I bet she will try to pimp her out at some point.
@@ainsleyharriot6030 i mean, she kept rue locked in the house, it just happened to be that rue managed to escape. but i think you can tell that laurie did not at all have the intention of letting the leave
It's incredible how Rue created the perfect situation for herself by ratting Cassie out and even us watching got distracted by it
I wish I had the energy of Rue's stans to keep finding different ways to justify Rue's actions through the series and put her responsibility on other people lol
@@アキコ2003 Most of the fandom treat Rue and Jules VERY differently, they totally put aside Jules own mental issues, self-harm, childhood traumas and her recent traumas with Nate, and also dealing with an emotionally dependent and addict girlfriend, which is overwhelming, and only criticizes her for her actions which is fair, since she's toxic too.
But most people completely take away any responsibility of Rue's actions and always want to make it about other people or on her mental issues and addiction, when she's been a pretty shitty person to her family and friends.
Rue has mental issues, but so does Jules, Jules HAVE to take responsibility for her actions, but so does Rue, they're both toxic for each other. And Jules may have done some bad things, but telling Rue's mother was DEFINITELY not one of them, if Rue kept the suitcase she would've been dead pretty soon.
You could just not justify the bad behavior of the characters.
I feel it’s more people understanding that being a drug addict changes you as a person. So idk if it’s truly justifying her actions or just trying to sympathize with her. You can still hold her accountable though for being a crappy person to her family and friends.
This rue stans/Jules stans is stupid as hell. These are imperfect children characters who make mistakes and both endured pain. Anyone who can’t get that is just mindless.
because I can imagine a lot of people can relate to her, and I see myself in her. I've acted like her, shit isn't as black and white as "not a good person", also just because people emphasize with her doesn't mean we're justifying her actions, it's us noticing it's the effect of the drugs on her. rue isn't like this sober, she's a lovely kind hearted young woman, addiction. fucking. changes. you. people don't know how much truly unless you are an addict.
the opening scene felt so real like i didn't care about cassie's secret getting revealed cuz i was thinking about that intro the whole time
if you've known someone who struggled with addiction i feel like the whole first part hits more, it had me sobbing less than 10 minutes in. there was no judging her for me it was just heartbreaking
At this point I’m about to start a GoFundMe to get Gia a vacation 😩
😂😂 IM WEAKK
I think we forget that we are watching teenagers. Making dumb decisions. I’m not justifying anyones actions, because every character in this series has made a bad if not a horrible decision. The fact of the matter is… it’s complicated. Nothing about this is okay. There is no protagonists. This is just… life. And Zendaya deserves her second Emmy.
*Zendaya Emmy Award Winning Coleman NEEDS ANOTHER EMMY NOW*
SAY IT LOUDER!!!
Cassie really thought “take it one day at a time! ☺️☀️🌈” was the phrase Ru needed to hear to have an epiphany
Just want to say rue is snorting heroin ((not cocaine)) I noticed you kept saying that in the videos she is very much in an heavy opiate addiction this episode is trying to highlight the behavior of what it looks like with the outbursts and emotions with that.
Rue is into prescription pills/opiates and in some instances heroine.
@@josesanmiguel5193 She was snorting heroine for most of the seasons so far. That's what was in the baggie she took from Faye's container.
and then to say “oh she’s doing too much” and “oh now she wants to cry” . can y’all pls remember that she is an addict. and going thru withdrawal. her emotions will keep changing. that’s the reality of it
1st Jules definitely deserved it, Im so fkn done with her fr
2nd i have to make sure Gia is goin to therapy asap
3rd Fez's reaction when rue pushed him broke my heart
4th Cassie..... idek what to say about ya
5th the acting was good afffffffffffff
yesssss
This was the best episode so far this season, awards incoming! ⭐
My brother is a former drug addict/alcoholic. Watching this episode and being the Gia of my family where I had to watch everything going on (but I didn't FULLY understand it because I was very young and my bro is 12 years older than I am), it's full stop traumatizing. You want to sympathize with Rue because A. she's the lead, essentially and B. It's Zendaya and it's easy to remember "this is acting and this isn't real" when this kind of thing is VERY real and even worse than how it's portrayed on tv. Watching your brother steal money, take my own car and wreck it bc he wanted me to take him on a drug run and I wouldn't, etc. My mom just kept letting it go and it caused fights not only between my parents and my brother, but then also btwn my parents and then btwn me and my parents. I felt no connection to my brother and I missed out, entirely, on a relationship. It does get to a point where you have to say 'enough is enough' and cut them out completely. Finally my parents did, and when they did, it finally made my bro go to rehab. He's 5 years sober now. I am proud of him, but at the same time, I'm still weary because he's been in and out of rehab since he was 16 and he's 50 now. A first time rehab, a second, a third....it doesn't always mean instant healing. So I feel for the sister and the mom that they don't trust Rue. Same with Rue's friends. This episode sent me. It's the hardest thing I've ever had to watch bc of just how real it was, especially from my own experience with family.
Facts! Facts! Facts! I understand your stuggle so much. I've been through this more than three times all with friends I treated like family. It get hard to care form them, cause at some point you just want to save yourself than them cause they drown with them. It along rough process, but Its a growing process. I understand you so much.
@@playboilottie7959 Dude, it gets so tired. You try and you try to help, but if someone doesn't want to get sober, they don't. There comes a point where you just have to let go and hope for the best, you know? Someone who had addiction problems has to want to fix themselves. If anyone forces it, it never works.
@@brooklynnoelle yep it’s just that simple. If they don’t want to help themselves get better then it won’t begin for them. And you get tired when the same behavior’s that take them over happen almost every month it just makes you want to give up on them.
rue hurt fez so bad, his reaction to her doing that made me so sad. i’m just scared because i know he still loves her and would protect her with his life even after all of that, and now rue has got a lady trying to pimp her out for her money & i know that fez will try to protect rue even after all she’s done because like he said at the beginning he sees her as family.
This episode had me stressed out for real. Every one of these characters needs Jesus 😭
Usually agree with your reactions, but idk about this episode. I get ur annoyed cause believe me anybody would be but you have to have room for disappointment when it comes to Rue and her character. I think we have to understand that Rue is an addict, yes she is a horrible person because drugs make her a horrible person. She’s going to keep making mistakes, creating chaos, and conflicts in her life because she’s heavily influenced by drugs. Her brain now runs with the help of drugs. This is literally her life, I feel like ur not appreciating the realistic behavior that is being portrayed.
Exactly what I was thinking
I understand rue is an addict and this is the addiction talking i’ve said that multiple times in other reactions. I don’t hate rue and I want rue to win … but how much is someone suppose to take before enough is enough was the point im trying to make. It was just a frustrating episode Maybe you skipped parts cause I literally said I still feel so bad for rue and how realistic this episode was…
@@jaymeetsworld1 Exactly
shes not a bad person. not only is she an addict but she's also severely bipolar, she's just so fucking sick and scared. also withdrawals are absolute hell, addicts will do anything not to go through withdrawals LMFAOO
Of course she's not a "bad person". The world isn't black-and-white, or split into "good people" and "bad people". But Rue is NOT being a good person at the moment. Yes, it is the drugs, but it's still true.
I don’t know to feel about Elliott I feel like there is more to him 🤔
Tbh I don’t think her dads death is an excuse. She’s an addict who’s trying to numb the pain
As someone who has a a lot of family who are addicts, and was one myself. When you watch reactors who are so exhausted after an 1 hour of tv about it.
The stress, the pressure, having to grow up quick. It’s 24/7 and this shows just how yes the addicts are hurting. But the families and people effected are doing double time. Cause we have to hold their hurt and ours on top of it. It’s the walking on eggshells cause anything can trigger them.
This show is hard to watch sometimes. It hits too close.
this episode had me so over rue that I can’t defend her anymore, I don’t know why the fandom has gotten it so against Jules when Jules compared to rue is literally almost a saint, she accuses Jules of sucking the life out of everyone yet doesn’t see how her lies and manipulation are literally ending all her relationships with her friends and family, because she’s tiring them out, and yes Jules is wrong for cheating but I think Jules just wasn’t feeling that any of the love she was giving to Rue was being reciprocated cause she’s literally high most of the time, and I can tell she genuinely cares about Rue, Jules is mind you still a teenager and Rues sobriety should not be and is not Jules responsibility, her leaving does not put the blame on Jules for Rue doing drugs again.
I’m over Cassie too and have been for a long time, I get that Rue threw her under the bus but to weaponize her addiction to sort of invalidate what she said was super wrong on her part.
THANK YOU!! SOMEONE GETS ME!!
The way u showed the Cassie scene was fantastic
As someone was a drug addict it’s hard to watch this shit sometimes. It’s like looking in the mirror. I’ve said awful things to my mother and have physically fought my dad. Now that I’m sober a part of me is definitely happier, like you truly have no idea how amazing it is to be sober unless you’ve spent time feeling like shit fucked up on drugs, but I know deep down that I can never take back the things I’ve said and done to my family and those are regrets I will always carry with me for the rest of my life. They can forgive me but they’ll never forget it. The only thing I can do is make and myself proud by working towards a better future for myself. I’ve also been working on payments towards people I’ve stolen money or “borrowed” from and I’m determined to work my ass off until everyone has their money back. Good luck to everyone who’s trying to live a clean, healthy and sober lifestyle. The journey isn’t easy but it’s worth it in words I can’t even describe.
I really question how Rue's mom hasn't kicked her out yet cause I know damn well my mom would've had my bags packed and on the curb. I understand loving someone but doing drugs, breaking property, stealing from other people? It's game over in my household if you did one of those things let alone all 3 💀
(Edit: For some reason y'all took it as me saying Rue should be kicked out. All I'm saying is no parent I know/in my family would've put up with what Rue has done. Rue has hurt so many people, her mother and sister especially.)
I feel like Rue being a minor is a major reason for her not getting kicked out yet
for one her mom doesn’t know about any of the stealing or anything she did that night and for two. clearly you don’t have children. it’s not “loving someone” it’s loving your child. she’s not a killer or anything so she’s redeemable, she has a disease that’s not gonna be fixed by her mother kicking her out she wouldn’t even have anywhere to go.
she is an addict … don’t you understand
Agreed! Especially as Leslie, in this episode in particular, had to weigh the safety of Gia over Rue’s continued presence in the home. You saw the panic when she suddenly thought Gia may have been getting high with Rue.
1. Rue’s a minor still
2. She already lost her husband, she doesn’t want to lose one of her daughters too so I doubt she’ll give up on her
I feel like people don’t get that Rue isn’t JUST freaking out because she owes those people money. She’s freaking out because her last dose was probably hours ago, and she knows she’s about to be plunged into full withdrawal. That’s why she doesn’t mention Laurie or the money. She doesn’t care. She ONLY cares about keeping herself from getting sick at this point. As a recovering opiate addict this scene hit me SO hard because of how relatable it is.
rue should be on the track team. her in the 800 ?? could really turn her life around😒
lmaooo facts put rue in the olympics
i don't think rue going to laurie was a good idea AT ALL
the insinuation that laurie made about rue being able to get money in other ways by being a woman was straight up a threat and probably the locked room has some girl bein held hostage
plus: she said to rue that only had morphine and didnt had any pills but then we see the suitcase full of pills
laurie has a plan for rue and not a good one, the amount of times that she needled rue was to give her a junkie mark.. rue is FUCKED
her veins were very visible and she clearly kept just pricking away from it intentionally.
Holy cow, I didn’t even notice the suitcase of pills. Like I was already uneasy with how Laurie got the morphine out before Rue even agreed to it (especially after her comments) but her also having pills makes it so much more sinister.
It’s really not too much of a surprise though, because she straight up told Rue when she first gave her the suitcase that if Rue didn’t pay up that Laurie would sell her to make her money back. I’ve been kinda worried that’s where the show was heading ever since then.
"You better believe in something after this" Aahaha dying
Cassie really played herself.. like all she had to do was stay quiet!😩🤦🏾♀️ But I agree, this is one of the best Euphoria episodes. The drama, emotions and suspense were so good!
It literally felt like season, but I know all hell is about to break loose next episode!
cassie: just take it one day at a time 🙂
rue: TAKE THIS BITCHHH😈
Not the intro of Cassie 💀😂😂😂
i need her to back it up lmao
Lol what gets me is the intervention where Cassie and Lexi's alcoholic mother is heading the intervention with Rue's mom lol
lmaooo this part!!!! like y’all need help too!
The reason she’s was crying and of the sudden and having random emotions burst all at once it bc she’s bpd coded and it actually accurate
PLS- the “okay well close your eyes” has me weak 💀😂
Elliot had that chance to snort a line and blew it away instead. He's trying
Wait was Lexi's mom stalling so Rue's mom had time to get there for the intervention🤔
oouuuuuuu that would’ve made sense!!!
We literally sympathize for rue because it’s Zendaya, idc idc
Love the title! TLC is my favorite music group! The girls that get it, get it. 💅🏽
PERIOD.
lmfao at that intro 🤣like Cassie girl "why are you running??"
First of all I'm so happy we got an episode like this! Ep. 4 kinda dragged the Maddy/Cassie lie and the Cal backstory bit and I was worried it was gonna continue but no. EVERYTHING spilled.
Second of all I feel like there's no hope for Rue at this point. She's on the verge of doing jail time and Laurie having her trafficked. I'm scared that Laurie and the others might raid her house.
I think Rue’s dad is protecting her from the afterlife, cause ain’t no way.
heyyy queen, I love you and I love your reactions to euphoria. They make my day and so do you :)
awwww 😭😭😭 thank youuu!!!! these comments make my day 💕
girl this episode had me SHOOOOOK
IM STILL SHAKING!!!
She wasn’t high she was going through withdrawals
i’m aware…
@@jaymeetsworld1 you said she was high…. Im just adding to the discussion
your reaction was cathartic for me. as a victim of abuse and a daughter of an addict, thank you for looking at gia/jules with an objective lens
it's important to remember here that Rue is an addict. The way people speak about Rue is very telling to the insensitive, incorrect and nasty ways people view and treat addicts. This was rue's addiction doing this, not the essence of who Rue truly is. That's the whole point of this episode. Addiction detroys not only the person, but also impacts the people who love the addict. It's a hard, tragic, complicated, powerful thing. It can't be boiled down to someone being a good or bad person, and it's harmful to try to do so.
And another thing, very weird for people to encourage Rue being horrible to Jules. You think it's cool to throw the fact that Jules is craving and searching for honest and real love in her face? Like she isn't a trans woman? As if there are lines and lines and crowds of people that are lined up and ready to love a trans woman loudly and freely? Of course that's something she's going to crave for and search for. The world is full of Nate Jacobs who are quick to reject and say and do disgusting things because of the fact that she's trans. But sure Jules is an attention seeker, HOw DarE SHE WaNT RESpecT AND FOR SOMeonE TO ValUE HeR!! nah but i am JUST SAYING, the heteronormativity jumped out here for sure! Also, they're literally children so there's that.
ALSO I'm speaking generally here because I've seen so much crazy discourse. Love your videos!!!
zendaya’s acting on this was amazing
That threw my theory out the freaking window
which one???
@@jaymeetsworld1 about Maddy being suspicious of Cassie and Nate and mentally torturing them