Which characters should I do for my Euphoria Deep Dive series and why? Feel free to add what questions you'd like me to answer as well! ALSO THANK YOU FOR 20,000 SUBSCRIBERS OMG 🎉 I love this community so much. ❤🥺
I would love for you to analyse Cal‘s narcissism and it‘s genesis, the general family dynamic and the effect of Nate’s traumatic attachment injuries on his personality. I find, that one effect of chronic childhood trauma is almost never shown or analysed in depth: lack of empathy and transgressive and invasive affect dysregulation. The Jacobs family is one of the rare examples, where this effect of intergenerational attachment trauma is shown in quite a realistic way. I think this could be so educational if you would tackle this. Especially how one should/can interact healthily with people with these kinds of disorder (besides no contact) and what kind of treatment could actually be effective harm reduction, if Nate and/or Cal would ever be open to (or court mandated 😉) to undergo therapy.
I would love to see a deep dive on nates character. Even though he’s horrible his character has so much depth and deep rooted trauma he would be a good character to bring awareness from.
I watched this episode with a friend who said Zendaya was "overacting" in the first scene. I grew up seeing this kind of behavior... the screaming, cursing, threatening, violence, breaking things, crying, family members fighting each other. I even called the police once because they were having a physical altercation at the top of the staircase. I was so scared that someone was going to get seriously hurt. My family criticized me for that and I ended up just accepting that sometimes families get like this... like it was normal. It was so disorienting to realize that some people have never ever seen something like this happen in real life. For me, it was so realistic.
I literally had to pause and breathe, it was too close to home. every moment of that, the violences then pauses then back to violence just felt too real.
Your friend sounds extremely ignorant. I saw my parents and brother screaming at each other like all the time, like you said, I thought it was normal and felt shock when I realized other people never saw those things.
Laurie, the drug dealer definitely knew Rue was a drug addict she purposely gave her the suitcase so she can be in debt to her. And then gave Rue morphine knowing she’ll get more addicted so she will go back to her. When she said the thing about how even if you don’t have money as a women there is something that people want. Laurie doesn’t just seem like a drug dealer but a full blown sex trafficker.
OMG YES, when she said she never got angry, if you don't have money as a woman theres always something else, that freaked me out even more, i think she's far more dangerous than most drug dealers. when we saw the lock on the one room and rue woke up there with this guy, i thought hold her there and sold her to some men for the money.
yesss and Laurie “helped” rue after she knew she didn’t have the money. Also having a suitcase full of other drugs she chose an addictive one that would benefit her trafficking rue
It’s interesting that Leslie visibly panics when she thinks Gia was doing drugs with Rue: and she slapped Rue when Rue went for Gia. Everyone has limits to their compassion and patience, and the idea of Gia being hurt because of/by Rue seems to be Leslie’s line.
I noticed that too! At that point I wonder if she’s just thinking “I have to do what I can to at least protect THIS child from going down that path if I can’t protect Rue”.
@@ines3770 it’s because her mom knew Gia was one of the few reasons Rue would actually go through and get admitted in the hospital/there’s no way Leslie alone could control Rue and keep her in the car. Gia unfortunately is too young to have this responsibility tho
And we can tell now that Gia patience and caring for rue it pretty much gone, (her not helping her mom look in the car) she’s just done and honestly I don’t blame her. When are things ever about Gia? When does she get time to be stress free? She should be putting herself first. Maybe her sister giving up on her will finally help her get clean. Maybe she needs to be completely alone. Either she’ll get clean or die and regardless of the decision, it might be better for Gia. She needs to grieve and move past this point in her life, rue is just prolonging her suffering
She's definitely a sex trafficker. Everything she has done with Rue is to make sure that she's indebted to Laurie and addicted to even stronger drugs so that she would be willing to do anything to get a fix
@roberta aggressive people aren't scary because they're impulsive.. careful, and calculated people are scary, because they always get what they want and they know they will get it.
I think the cell death she explained to Rue probably happened to her. She said she used to be an addict, the substances probably caused her emotional range to die.
I would actually love an episode on all the PARENTS. I feel like a major theme in the show is how the experiences of our parents reflect onto us, and what the absence of parental intervention during teen years can do.
@@sarahbgln why is that a big red flag? Her asking if it’s safe shows a glimmer of hope for her because deep down she doesn’t want to die and still cares about what happens to her
Also, right before she ran into traffic she said "please lord don't let me die" is the second time she's said that. I don't think she is as suicidal as she says, which is a good thing. She wants to escape all the pain and sadness but I don't think she actually wants to die.
I want to know more about Lexi and Cassie. With Lexi, how she disassociated through her painful childhood and escaped and how that affects her today. And with Cassie and her hypersexuality. I think there's so much more to understand with her because I've personally gone through similar issues as her and would love more insight
Something about Lexi that is very interesting to me is how differently she's reacted to her trauma than everyone else. Lexi also lost her father to drugs, her mother turned to alcohol, her best friend is a drug addict who pushed her away and her sister is pretty emotionally unavailable for the most part. I think this will be explored further on the play, and i'm very excited.
Though I wonder how doing a deep dive comparison on that would be.. because I'm confused how much of Cassie's hypersexualization is a true cause-and-effect realistic depiction and how much of its just director Sam's attempt to throw in more "sexy" scenes for the show lol.
@@Mia_M yet its not like he never told rue to stop, he's been hesitant to give rue drugs and even told her not to ever since s1 ep1, but he doesnt want her out of his life bc he cares about her
I feel for Gia so much in this episode. I was the one that called out my brothers addiction. I was always the one who told my dad and grandparents "he's lying to y'all." or "He's manipulating you" I told my dad to drug test my brother in 2017 due to some addict behaviors I'd noticed. Our mom died from her addiction 4 years beforehand and I wasn't going to lose him too. We tested him and he failed. After that my dad tried help him get clean with therapy and monitoring his money but it didn't work. it was SO hard watching my dad and grandparents suffer. It pissed me off if I am honest. He stole jewelry and guns from my grandparents when he lived with him to pawn them. I remember them calling my dad and us going over there to confront him. I can still remember when he came in the house and I felt like I was looking at a stranger. My brother went to rehab about 2.5 hours aways for 3 months and lived in sober living home for 6 months. He started asking everyone we knew for money. I tried to contact everyone we knew and tell them he had relapsed and if they gave him money that he was using it on drugs to not expect it back. I didn't say to not give him money but I asked that if he contacted them they tell him that they care about him and want him to get help. When I started getting angry ctexts from people wanting me to pay his debt I had to post on Facebook and explain that he relapsed and ask ppl to not give him money. It was the hardest and most shameful thing I have ever done. I felt embarrassed and guilty for embarrassing him but I was starting to worry for me and my dad's safety and well-being. My brother was furious and he was texting me really hurtful things. I told him I couldn't be in his life anymore until he was clean. That week he found a rehab and checked himself in. He wrote me letters but I still had a hard boundary. I wasn't ready to talk to him. It took us a year to get back into a good place. Now he is 3.5 years sober and he is my best friend. I couldn't be prouder. I say l this to say loving an addict is hard and there is no manual for it. I am so proud of the man my brother is today and he's told me that one of the key moments of him deciding to go back to rehab was me 1. cutting off his resources and 2. cutting him off.
@@playagamelp2441 me too! Thank you, I tear up when I think about how far he’s come too. 4 years ago I wouldn’t have believed you if you told me he’d be by bestfriend. 4 years ago my dad and I were mentally preparing ourselves for the worst. Now he’s got a good job, works hard, has his own apartment, and he has over 3 years sober. He watches Euphoria too and he says it reminds him why he can never go back
Rue was going through withdrawal, but she also developed a kidney infection during a depressive episode in season 1. That’s why she’s holding her stomach and keeps peeing.
you also have to pee like every 30 minutes in opiate withdrawal because you aren't peeing much when you're using. it was one of the more surprising aspects of withdrawal when it happened to me. your bodily systems is beginning to function properly again.
I second that. im really interested to hear if the need to be loved is really that much stronger than a deep friendship? nate is abusive, how is that better than having a loving friend
@@MarieTheOstrich part of it could be that since she’s been hyper-sexualized since a young age she’s been conditioned to associate love with physicality. Sure her friends love her but she can’t have sex with her friends
agree, i’d also love a video about cassie and jules together, because they’re two characters that often mirror each other despite not interacting much in the show. like they both so deeply love to be loved and they both have a history of constantly needing to be in short or long term sexual relationships
I really appreciate that you acknowledge Gia's trauma. A lot of my childhood looked a lot like that opening segment - I've been the "Rue" in the fight, but 99 times out of 100 I was the "Gia" trying desperately to drown it out. I didn't realize until now as an adult how much that experience impacted my behaviors and decision making, and all I can say is... Gia needs a really good therapist!! And it's very validating for you to acknowledge how much this scenario hurts her even though Rue is the main focus right now.
I’ve always liked euphoria but it has never truly hit me until this episode. When I was in high school I almost lost my best friend to an overdose. I was so scared to speak up and tell someone because I thought that meant betraying her. I’m still struggling to forgive myself. So it’s nice to see it put on screen that Jules was able to tell her mom, it’s so important
I’d love a deep dive on Cassie’s hypersexuality and people pleaser issues. I always related to her in season 1 because of the absent father/neglectful mother stuff but watching Cassie in season 2 is like watching myself in 2014 and it doesn’t feel good. It makes me sad to read all the sexist comments online regarding Cassie when I know exactly how I felt going through a remarkably similar situation (minus the best friend element) and it wasn’t good. I really feel for her. I’d like one on Nate but I’d also hate it. Does that make sense? There’s NOTHING positive about Nate. I feel so much for him in terms of the trauma he’s experienced, but he’s done nothing to redeem himself. I’ve had my Mum speak to me like Cal did during his rant last episode and it destroyed a huge part of me is2g.
Yeah I’ve noticed people are not really understanding the messages in Euphoria. And how no one in the show is perfect and they are all going through their own battles. They’re quick to just call Jules and Cassie names and say they hate them. We learn why the do the things that they do. And I feel for Cassie, because she loves to be loved bc of that she is a people pleaser. Her and Jules crave love. Genuine or not. And they’ve been through terrible situations. Example: abortion, sexualization, black mail, and nudes being shared, Jules sex life, having someone in the family who is addicted to drugs. So it’s more then just them being a bad friend or person. It’s the effects of what they’ve gone through.
@@otaku11bts23 but people use it to excuse their actions. Lots of us grow up exactly like that and have the same issues, but we don’t become like Jules and Cassie. While it explains why they do the stuff they do, it doesn’t justify it, which is what I see a lot of people doing.
@@otaku11bts23 ok but they severely lack integrity and Cassie had every right moment to tell Maddie that she hooked up with Nate yet she refused. Cassie liked being Nate’s little secret and got a thrill off of sneaking away from Maddie and seeing him in private. Cassie definitely has issues with abandonment but she had absolutely no right to betray her best friend and try to act like she’s doing the right thing.
@@Pink_pr1ncess I understood it in another way, when Cassie said that she liked being Nate's little secret it was a "performance" (it even reminded me a lot of porn, how girls in there act), as a people pleaser she knows what to say to please them. She probably didn't actually meant that but will say anything to keep him. And it's the same thing with sneaking off, she probably doesn't like having to meet him in secret but she doesn't know how to love herself and respect herself enough to ask for more. She'll take anything anyone gives her. Turn out to be Nate but it could've been anyone. Yeasss it's wrong to do that with your best friend, but literally every character has done bad things, the point in Euphoria it's to show what has led them to that
@@KatAlSilva 100% I met a guy in 2014 and was with him for 6 months when I found out he had a girlfriend who lived abroad. He told me it wasn’t particularly serious with her and manipulated me so much that I had a breakdown, lost my job, lost my friends. All because of this abusive relationship where I was being gaslit, lied to, manipulated etc. The abuse came after I found out and his “simple” life was ruined. I already had abandonment issues, BPD and severe anxiety. I’d just ended a relationship before this one and had moved to a big new city alone. I was so taken in by his toxic shit and I can hand on my heart admit I said shit like “I love that I’m your secret.” word for word. And multiple times. You’re so scared to lose this person because they’ve slowly worked their way into your brain and you feel as though you’d stop breathing if they ever left. Cassie is being selfish and disloyal but she’s also dealing with grief, loss and trauma with a Mum who doesn’t seem to care more than how Cassie looks on the outside and a bunch of guys telling her all she’s good for is for s*x and a Dad who left her.
I think the explanation about the way the brain is built and functions is so important for people to hear. Because I feel like a lot of audience members just judge her for her behaviour and are done with her because they think she’s a horrible person. But Rue is literally so controlled by her addiction, what it does to her brain and what it makes her do. She admits that she doesn’t even recognise herself. Usually Rue is the complete opposite and a very calm person. But addiction can cause you to become someone completely different. So the opening scene leaves a lot of people shocked because they have never experienced or gone through anything like this themselves, which means they can’t even begin to understand where she’s coming from. But her meltdown is actually incredibly accurate and a realistic portrayal of the way a desperate person that suffers from any kind of addiction will behave. And while you as a family member literally don’t know what to do anymore, the amount of aggression can just reflect on you because of that, and start making you communicate in the same aggressive tone in order to get through to them. But as long as they don’t realise their behaviour is wrong, nothing will. Watching the scene reminded me of situations in my own life to an extent that it was actually almost too painful to watch because it felt so incredibly authentic. Not just the ways in which an addict will behave and react in destructive ways. Also the helplessness of family members, who have to watch a person they love become someone so removed from their actual self they don’t even recognise them anymore. I think the show did I great job of portraying the really horrific impact addiction has on a family.
that’s why i love these deep dives. people watch this show and a lot of people seem to perceive all actions and thoughts and feelings as fact and seem to believe the creators support these actions. when the truth is this show is incredibly subjective and shows things from characters points of view so much that you need to actually see the characters as flawed people and not just characters.
Cassie: I think it could touch majority topic of revenge porn, perfect victim, daddy issues and how the sexism of it all plays how folks don’t seem to wanna be sympathetic *[* *edited added in* in reference to high standards adultifcation folks seems to hold young girls too cause let’s be real folks hold girls and women responsible for every little be it appropriate or not with now room for to just be humans who at times are messy af *]* to her and expect her to be perfect at all times instead of her being a guide who doesn’t have good guides and support and that reflects in a lot of characters, seeing how they’re all in toxic environment it’s not surprising they adapt to it
I feel for Cassie because she’s just as much an addict as rue but her drug is affection and I know for sure it’s not because she’s white because I also feel bad for rue her mom and her sister. Who are obviously not white. And really feel bad for the person who said it was because of her skin colour and would suggest therapy to deal with your racist inclinations cause it’s pretty gross 🤮
This episode was so incredible, so harrowing to watch unfold. Laurie scares the fucking shit out of me though😭, the scratching behind that locked door has me so so scared for rue and and her family.
it’s the fact that laurie is so nonchalant about it too. she doesn’t get angry and she’s very logical in terms of business and, although she doesn’t discern empathy, she also doesn’t care to let it front her judgment. she’s very cold and merciless - a figure you wouldn’t perceive threatening because her lack of anger and monotone voice isn’t the usual “ideal” head drug operator. literally, she scares the shit outta me so bad. 😭
I'm still thinking of that one comment Laurie made that Rue didn't even register, "It's one of the good parts of being a woman. Even if you don't have money you've still got something people want." She will make good on her promise to sell Rue which I never doubted but the way she slipped that in so nonchalantly 😭 Also the fact that she told Rue she didn't have pills and only had liquid morphine but then we see her grab the liquid morphine from a suitcase that has plenty of pills in it. She wants Rue to get worse and worse but pretends otherwise. Absolutely terrifying.
The moment I saw rue go to Laurie with a “business” plan , I knew she will end up dead. I am scared for her she really got herself involved with really dangerous people.
@@liliebilie i completely agree! someone also pointed out how laurie knew rue lied about being sober and predicted laurie wanted rue to get in debt anyway so she could make better profit on rue’s body.
this episode is the first time jules has ever seen Rue actually experience a breakdown of some sort. like she knows she’s gotten depressed and she’s seen her high but this is the first time she’s ever seen her this upset or angry about anything and that’s why rue was so embarrassed
Please do a deep dive of Maddy! I feel like she gets overlooked a lot when it comes to people analyzing her actions because people see her as just being sassy and even a “bad person” (because of her allegations against Tyler) but I would love to hear your opinions about the role that her upbringing played in her abusive relationship with Nate and how that affected her actions with the whole Tyler situation. Plus, I feel like there’s definitely a conversation to be had about her being Latina in a predominantly white school with predominantly white friends and how that might affect the image others have of her and the expectations she may feel she has to meet (I.e. feeling the need to exude confidence when she’s just 16/17 and is putting up a persona like everyone else, or even feeling like her environment might not be safe for her to be vulnerable in the way that Cassie is always able to be because others might assume that it means she’s weak and take advantage of her, etc)
I want to personally see deep dive episode on Fezco and Ash. It boggles me how calm Fezco can be in such dangerous situations and how Ash being so young is able to partake so casually in them too.
Jules being able to hold her line with rue so well even though she’s clearly hurting is excellent. as the daughter of an addict of course she knows what she needs to do and it hurts her so much.
I'd love to see a deep dive on Nate. There is just so much to his character. I feel like his entire life he has tried to create this very toxic and hypermasculine version of himself that along the way he has lost who he truly is, that's why he acts so emotionless and cold all the time and is just filled with so many secrets that even his dad has no idea who he is. I think the only time he ever really showed his true self was when he was texting Jules and that's why I think their character journeys mirror each other. Just like Jules is trying to conquer femininity, Nate's journey is to conquer masculinity.
1. I'd like a deep dive on gia. I don't think people realise how much trauma she possibly has because of rue being an addict and her dad dying. I can't imagine seeing your sister overdose and talking about killing herself. Gia is struggling to keep herself together and soon enough she's going to explode. 2. Lexi and gia are quite similar but lexi is more logical while gia's more emotional. I feel like more people focus on rue and cassie but not lexi and gia.
I saw a lot of tweets about this episode that bothered me. My older brother was in active addiction for my college years and I learned a lot about addiction and how much it affects the family. It put me in the deepest depression and anxiety I have ever been in and I lost my mom at 15. 1. I saw was praising Rue for yelling at Jules and Elliot. While I agree they should feel bad about the cheating, I don't think that is what Rue was made about. She was mad about them getting her caught. Jules and Elliot did the right thing in my opinion. 2. People also called Elliot a snake. I thought think it was wrong that he told. He should have done it a while ago but it needed to happen. 3. Rue should have told Maddy about Nate because she cares not because Cassie was pissing her off for trying to be positive. It was straight up diversion.
What Elliot did wrong was to not tell Jules that Rue did not owe those drugs in the suitcase and that she would be getting in deep shit if she did not pay for its contents. Rue told him her plan and he knows from his own experience how ruthless drug dealers can be to settle a debt. Jules and Rue's mom needed to know that Rue and her family could be in danger if that suitcase was not returned
Same everyone is convinced that Elliot is a bad guy just cause he came in between Rue and Jules, they did that to themselves by choosing to lie to each other. And I do feel like Cassie was trying to be supportive because her dad is an addict, but Rue feeling judged and wanting a way out threw Cassie under the bus.
Nate would be a interesting deep dive to hear. He's egocentric, angry, twisted and calculating, but inside he's a little boy begging for his fathers approval. Not saying any of his actions have been right
I love love LOVE Zendaya's portrayal of an addict and the overall writing of the people around her and how they react to her struggles. I'm very surprised nobody's cut her out of their lives yet, it seems like a reasonable boundary some would set for their own sakes.
Your description of rue going in and out of using different coping mechanisms (like breathing and outwardly saying she misses her dad) was so eye opening to me!! It makes it 10x more heart breaking though :( i'm rooting for rue 😭 thanks for the awesome videos i love your analysis ❤️❤️
Your simplified explanation of what’s happening in the brain from survival to emotional to cognitive was so AWESOME. I’ve been experiencing severe chronic ptsd symptoms and I’m going to share that part of your video with my family! I also wanted to add that I think the tie btw Nate and Jules is gonna circle back re: the idea of being told you’re a regret or cause of others pain. I hope it doesn’t go where I think it might for either of those characters. I’m happy they included how close Rue came to being put into trafficking with no hope of getting away - it can happen to anyone at anytime in this world. Great video for a great episode! The acting and cinematography 💯 reminded me of what it felt like when I was running to rock bottom before I got into trauma therapy. Remember to have empathy for everyone ❤️
i’m glad to see how you responded to cassie and rue. many people online have been judging cassie and saying she gave bad empty advice because she wanted to be seen as a good person but you saw it for what i think it was, a girl trying to help her childhood friend and that friend rejecting the help and lashing out.
I'm happy to see I wasn't the only one who thought this, it seems weird to me that people expected Cassie to be able to actually help. Obviously Cassie isn't in any position to give Rue tangible help or therapise her and showing a bit of kindness is all she can do
I would love to see a deep dive into Rue and what caused her and Jules to connect so deeply, why are they codependent? How did Rues family dynamic play a part in her downfall. The repercussions of putting children on medication so early in life? Also a deep dive into Nate’s family dynamic, how did his fathers double life seem to only affect him? Why are they all sexual deviants? I love your channel by the way, amazing!
I can say that in Jules' episode with her therapist, she basically admits that Rue was the only romantic female partner that saw her and loved her for herself, unconditionally, the way her mother had. She wasn't competitive and judgmental of her the way other girls her age were. I think Rue loves that Jules is different--seemingly confident and artistic, driven. Yet, she also has a lot of vulnerabilities.
I think a lot of it is also that Rue had an idealised version of Jules. She built her up in her head and it’s begun to hit her that Jules is more complicated than that.
Also a big part of the draw Jules has to Rue was explained in her special episode. Because her mother is also an addict, Rue’s addiction feels familiar to Jules and through that relationship she’s trying to fix her relationship with her mother.
I have to say I wouls love to watch such an analysis on Jules and, as much as I hate saying this, a dive into Nate's character as well to kind of figure out how much of his evil is innate and how much of it is related to his upbringing hm
Rue and Jules both struggle with self-worth and core wounds related to loss, which can be a precursor to codependency. You could say that Jules' fantasy is to be perfect in someone else's eyes - a muse - because her own sense of self rests upon what others mirror back to her. This is why she seeks external validation to such a high degree, and is vulnerable to people who seek to exploit that (Cal, Nate, Elliott). Rue, in turn, puts Jules on a pedestal so to speak, perhaps seeing herself as lucky simply to be the subject of Jules' affection. She has low self-esteem and as the narrator portrays Jules as the 'interesting one' as if Rue is not equally interesting as a person. The two of them get caught up in a codependent cycle because Jules gets validation of being 'perfect' and Rue gets validation of feeling 'chosen by someone special.'
The part that stood out to me was when Rue realized Jules heard everything and now knows the ugly version of her that she has tried to keep a secret for so long. The switch of emotions in her face from Shocked, Embarrassed, sad, and angry was chef's kiss perfection I caught second hand embarrassment!
I think this is exactly what Rue needed tough love, Fez did the right thing. I have to admit she is freaking lucky. She got away from being sold as a sex slave. It’s still going to get even worse for Rue before she gets a grip of herself.
We have to be careful with "tough love". Rue has already very little regard for her life, so "tough love" can end up in her deciding to end her life. And she almost did in going back to such a dangerous person like Laurie and telling her that she couldn't pay her the money she owed her. She would not only exposing herself to be killed but becoming a sex slave. I recommend joining groups like Nar-Anon, a support group for relatives and friends of addicts to get better guidance about a specific case. Sometimes tough love may help, sometimes you need a hybrid approach
I don’t think she was bathing Rue, giving her drugs and giving her a place to sleep was for nothing. When that car was leaving I realized it already happened that night.
I also saw a theory where they said she was injected in her left arm when she was bathing her. But when she woke up you could see her RIGHT arm was injected several times and she could’ve been there for a longer period of time.
I would really love to hear your deep dive into Cassie and Jules; because these two have done and are doing some questionable things that I can't understand and I really feel a connection with myself and their characters. thank you for your amazing videos. hope you the bests.
I thought the same about the suitcase it’s not just the drugs you can tell she’s really scared for her and her family that’s why she goes steal stuff to make up for it..
Can you please talk about how cassie and jules are reflections of each other (their characters problems and personalities) and 100% NATE we still don’t know if he’s attracted to men, traumatized by his father from seeing all of his p0rnography or if he’s just a domineering person that needs to be in control and preserve his masculinity even if it comes off as homoerotic
KAT shes such an interesting character that i think a lot of young girls relate to/ fell into the same place she did. Its a really tough topic to talk about let alone live though and i think it needs more attention.
The part when Leslie said “ I raised you!! You will not scare me!..” as she teared up it broke my heart , because you can tell she wasn’t necessarily scared of her but scared FOR her.
Did you catch in that episode how there was scratching coming from behind the padlocked door at Laurie’s house? And when Rue was in the bath Laurie said something along the lines of “when you’re a woman there’s always something people want”. What happened between the bathtub and her waking up in the room? How long was she asleep? Even though she got out, now she has the “taste” for IV drugs and is going to be even more desperate. I think Laurie didn’t fully lock her in the room because she knew she already had her. Rue is going to come back looking for more drugs. I rly think Laurie is going try and traffic her or be her pimp or something. She will probably “convince” Rue to “willingly” submit to things to pay back her drug debt. She knew what she was doing when she gave her the suitcase. She knew she wasn’t going to be able to pay it back. It was all her manipulation from the start and it’s going just as planned now. She even said “I knew you’d be in my life for a long time” She makes my skin crawl but that actress is incredible
I have been trying to wrap my head around this episode since I’ve seen it and I’ve been struggling with such strong feelings because of it. Thank you so much for your insight!! I’m an RN, but have been a bit sheltered from addiction, so while I understand the science of it, I really appreciated how you broke everything down. I have such strong empathy skills so all of your takes have really helped me expand that. Thank you again, you’re amazing.
I would like a deep dive on Laurie. I wanna know how someone can be so evil yet so calm. She must have seen so much messed up stuff yet has that composure. Also the fact that she was a school teacher and she can treat rue like that. The psychology behind her charecter sounds really interesting. Also fez’s grandma would be cool for a deep dive. Idk if the show will elaborate more on the characters but hopefully they will :)
anybody else hear the scratching behind the locked doors in Laurie’s house?? i think she’s already holding girls in there and the birds might be a cover up noise… i think rue lied about the amount of drugs she does and her tolerance so laurie didn’t give her enough to successfully drug her… idk just a theoryyyyy
As a doubtless controversial aside, I appreciate how this show validates the option of abortion at certain times. (Yes, I think Cassie and her classmates should not be so hypersexual and careless about protection. I also think Cassie's mom should not have allowed her to go away for a weekend with McKay, as unwanted pregnancy can be one of the results.) But, clearly, Cassie and McKay were in no condition to be parents! Cassie was not at all ready to experience a pregnancy or go through an adoption set-up, as she has deep, emotional instability now, including alcohol abuse. A six-week-old fetus is the size of a seed pearl. It is clearly NOT a baby then. Yes, people have a right to their religious beliefs on this topic, but they should not be allowed to impose them on the rest of society.
If anything it’s a good thing she did it cause the baby would have fetal alcohol syndrome and would be very nutritionally deprived. The fact that contraception isn’t free and just healthcare in general is the dumbest thing ever. If all that was free, it would cut down so much on abortions and the use of the morning after pill
@@cmg9904 I agree. Or, it should be covered by most insurance plans. The cost of unwanted or even unplanned children is immense to society. Yes, babies can be unplanned and still wanted, and parents/families can make it work. But so often, this is not the case. You only have to look so far as Nate and Aaron Jacobs. These two have deep troubles, because the father did not really want them nor a nuclear family.
Cassie was for sure emotionally unstable BEFORE that, but it definitely made it worse and things (her feelings) became a lot harder for her to run away from so that's why she ended up doing what she did with Nate. I mean the season opens with talking about how Cassie's depressed. She filled the void with Nate so she didn't have to deal with her own shit. Been there sans the best friend thing.
I’m very interested in Lexie and Cassie especially because they experienced the same childhood traumas (of course everybody is different so every experience is perceveid differently) but they have very different coping mechanisms. You know, for Cassie is more obvious because, as we can all see, she put herself in very shitty situations but for Lexi is not so clear, we’ve seen so much less about her. I’d really love a deep diving inside their minds.
Moreover, the reason why I’m interested in this two sisters is because I can relate with their childhood issues. Having a father whom you really love, who abandons you and being stuck with a mother who’s very different from the “usual” mother type.
As someone who had a lot of trauma at a young age (for reference, the biggest being my mom died when I was 11 after being severely ill for my entire life), I became more like Lexi. For me, I think it's maybe a little bit of my internal moral compass that turned me away from becoming like Cassie, but also, I got my attention for being "good"... a people pleaser, conflict avoidant, an enabler, "unproblematic" which has been a lot of what we have seen from Lexi so far. Being abandoned at a young age, you want to do everything you can to NOT push people away by letting them maybe take advantage of your kindness or friendship. Cassie does the same thing but just in a different way; mostly through male validation which I think has to do with her being a little bit older when everything went down with their dad, she was kind of maybe roped into it a little more and it severely hurt her. Cassie does everything she can to avoid her pain but you know it's there. Lexi just pretends like it doesn't exist.
1) I would LOVE to see a deep dive on cassie and kat 2) the explanation on the brain switching between rational and irrational states was actually extremely informative so ty for that 3) zendaya👏🏾needs👏🏾her👏🏾emmy👏🏾
i do know it can be very exhausting to deal with addicts and most time can really affect mental health of surrounding ppl to the point ppl just give up to care/help... but rue is still having support system and resources, the only thing is she must have to care about herself and accept the love from herself to herself for her to be better and healthier. i know in reality many ppl do not have support system and resources to get better/sober/healthier, and left dying in the street because nobody visibly care for them. And to think about reality in our society, clearly reality is much harsher than storyline in tv, but i am so happy that the show can deliver some irl traumas and in hoping for the solution to help ppl with those traumas.
What's sad is that I can relate to Rue a little bit. I've never been involved with drugs or any addictive substances, but I was angry at all the loss I had faced in my childhood, and I took that anger out on other people. I still am, and I still do sometimes. I fought with my mother like that. I had huge breakdowns like that, switching from storming around the house to crying and apologizing profusely. I still have those breakdowns sometimes. It is so hard to cope with so many emotions at once, but like you said, it can be done. And there is an explanation for such intense mood swings. I hope that I only continue to get better, and I know that watching your channel is helping me in doing that. Thank you for all you do
I would like to see a deep dive into Jules! I feel like people are being way too harsh on her. She has done wrong but I think people are failing to take into account that hypersexuality and a need to be loved can stem from trauma. I'm a trans woman with a very similar backstory to her and being hyper sexualised and fetishized by such a large group of men who would go to any length to stop people from finding out really fucks with you after a while, especially when society at large places our entire self worth onto how attractive/passing we are and we grew up in an age where the only time we saw trans women represented was within the context of "tricking" men. My heart breaks for her because I know exactly why she's doing what she's doing and I know she wants to change but doesn't know how yet.
honestly I think Jules is very solid in her own way she never dishes out negativity or malice, her actions are from her own sense of not being lovable not being worthy of love. I can empathize with her this season cause first season Rue was sooo into her 1000% so much adoration and now theyre actually together and Rue seems, at best, inattentive. That's really damaging to someone who already struggles with self esteem to be told that they are loved, but the actions dont show any love.
Honestly this is why people like yourself and allies like myself have to keep making the slow painful changes needed in society. Because yes back in our parents generation and our grandparents generation that was unfortunately how transgender people where seen, not so much from my dad's side of the family because his parents put a very big emphasis on teaching us grandkids along with my dad and his siblings the importance of empathy and compassion and representations like that just fell under the umbrella of things where not exposing our kids or grandkids too, but from mum's side of the family yeah I did see stuff like that. And it was that combined with learning about my own sexuality that made me realise things in society have to change.
Sadly the first few scene(s)of episode 5 was something that triggered me and brought back mad flashbacks . The physical altercations, the screaming , the destruction is something I grew up with all the time from age 12 to 24 and even now I’m still trying to help, love me, take care of myself . I suffer And is diagnosed with CPTSD, and to be in therapy and to learn to control your emotions and flash backs ( like the side effects of CPTSD is like starting over again . And unlearning these behaviors )
I can not imagine how Euphoria is gonna end? If they wanna do a Season 3 (waht i think because the Show is so popular right now), that means that Rue is maybe still a addict or still got a lot of problems and so far we see she is literally at the end. What yall think how long they gonna keep this Show up?
I personally think they should end at season 4 and go out with a bang! But I would love to see them go to like 6th season. They should start building Gia’s point of view in season 3 and her perspective in high school. While also planting the seed with new characters to be explored in later seasons. This way when the upper classmates graduate we will already be used to seeing some of the new faces.
I think it would be very interesting for us the fans for you to do a deep dive on Jules and Cassie. I've seen a lot of people hating these 2 characters and I just think that is quite unfair. With that being said I believe your analysis of this 2 characters can help these "haters" to understand more about Euphoria's characters in general. Thank you for the episode 5 analysis. Your comments and explanation is very helpful. ( Sorry if I made any grammar mistakes, English is not my mother language)
Please do a deep dive on Jules, Cassie, and Cal. I see myself in every single one of them and would love to hear your input on what makes them be the way they are.
THANK YOU for this!!! Also, I really appreciate you clarifying and also refuted whoever said all drug addicts are liars and can't be trusted. I find that so infuriating because I knew someone who was a drug addict, and even though it was a tough road for them, they didn't lie "all the time" or they "can't be trusted" while they were going through it. I think that comment is rude. And also, I think whoever said that never had any experience with addicts, or only had experience with very few.
I think we need to hear a deep dive into Cassie and Jules just because I’ve noticed a lot of people are spreading a lot of hate on these characters. Calling Jules and Cassie names. People hate Jules because she cheated and left rue when she needed her. And people hate Cassie because of obvious reasons obvious reasons
Thank you for these videos doctor. I prefer watching your reactions to the episodes than actually watching the episodes themselves. I feel like I gain a lot more knowledge and comfort as well having you react to them and explaining to us as we go along
Thank you for explaining the different parts of the brain and how people react differently from moment to moment using those separate parts. I was just dismissing Rue as someone who doesn’t want to live but then she left Laurie’s apartment knowing she was In trouble. If she didn’t want to live she would have stayed where the drugs were.
I would love a deep dive into Cassie beacause I see a lot of my self in her and the way she acts sometimes even thought no parent has ever abandoned me so I think it would help me a bit
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I want to know more about Gia, I think many of us have been in a hard situation with our own family despite is an addict or a problematic person, I think Gia is having a serious trauma and hard time.
wow, ive seen nothing but hate for jules and cassie all over the internet so im so happy to find such sympathetic people in ur comment section point that out, i love your channel and its cool to see how your content shapes your audience and i love the empathetic rational subscribers you've attracted
I would love to see a deep dive into the Howard sisters dynamic and their different ways of dealing with the same trauma of their father abandonment and Suze's alcoholism. They also have opposite experiences, Cassie being overly sexualized since a young age and gaining unwanted attention from men making her feel that she can only be valued through her appereance and Lexi being ignored by both of her parents and Rue (all of them addicts funny enough) and not getting attention making her feel like an outsider and observer. I find it so fascinating to see the parallels in their issues and how they have almost have opposite responds to trauma.
Another great episode! I’d love for you to do a deep dive on Kat, we aren’t getting much from the actual show in terms of her story so I’d love to see your perspective on her arc since season 1!
I would love a deep dive on Lexi! Even though we don’t know how her character arc is going to end up this season, I would like to hear your thoughts on her passiveness and copping with writing.
Such a triggering episode. The acting was Incredible. Thank you for the insight doc🙏. Why does Jules love to be loved? I feel what Rue said about Jules was true..harsh but true 🤷♀️
In no way am I therapist or phycologist but I think that Jules loves to be loved because she didn’t have it when she was growing up. Her mom was a drug addict who barely paid attention to her, she then put her in this institution for who knows how long. While being in that place she had no real source of love. Now that she’s older when people love her she loves this feeling, is a euphoric feeling she has never experienced before
please do a deep dive into Jules. the poor girl gets more hate than any other character online except for Nate (and sometimes even more than Nate) and is so deeply judged, misunderstood, and blamed for Rue's relapses and drug use. I think she would be an incredible character to do a breakdown of partially to help build some empathy for a character that deserves it, because I know that people in positions similar to her online are probably feeling incredibly isolated right now.
Thank you so much for sharing your past experience. To hear someone that has become successful after dealing with substances abuse is really and truly is inspiring. My life has spiraled out of control trying to conceal my drug habits and finally I had an outburst of anger that completely changed my life forever. I identify with Rue so much and im so happy that this show exist so that people can see an addicts point of view as well as the people who have loved ones that are addicts as well.
8:55 So did Rue project her pain on Jules? But in a simply "I want you to suffer as much as I do" way or did she actually talk about herself when she verbally abused her? Personally I think a lot of stuff she said about Jules was more fitting for Rue like "sucking life/joy out of people" which she does as an addict to the ones close to her, but doesn't fit Jules at all
It would be interesting how their upbringing affected Lexi and Cassie. It seems we know more about how her dad affected Cassie and she looks for love in every guy, but I wonder about Lexi. They essentially lost their dad, almost like Rue did. Moreover, their mom is a confirmed alcoholic! Have a good day!
I’d love a deep dive into Cassie. I think she is starved of affection; having her father abandon his family and what seems to be an emotionally neglectful mother. I thinks it would be interesting to (try to) understand how this type of neglect is pushing her towards unhealthy relationships and emotional attachments.
please do a deep dive into Gia and Jules. we all know why anynody would choose Gia but Jules is a little bit of an unpopular opinion here: transition is not easy. EVER. and she has had huge issues with Nate and his father and obviously, her mother. i really think it would help us understand her character more.
I really liked what you said about people being able to recover. I’ve seen a lot of people online saying that Rue is too far gone now (usually with not much knowledge/ experience of addiction), which is not necessarily true. She is very entrenched, but people can be much more resilient than we expect. I also found it really interesting when you explained the emotional processes that happened in the argument - I’ve had very similar arguments to that in the context of addiction, eating disorders and also autistic meltdowns (I’m recovering/ recovered from the first two but still have bad autistic meltdowns every so often) and I’ve never been able to understand what triggers the seesaw from rage to depression to guilt and back, but what you said made sense and I think having a better understanding might help me with my meltdowns, so thank you 😊
please do a deep dive into jules! pretty much most of the story is narrated by rue, who doesn't really know jules' side of the story because jules hasn't really opened up to rue. since that one special episode was really the only way for us viewers to get a sense of jules' side of things, it'd be great if you did a deep dive on her to help us fans better understand her character!
I would like you to do a breakdown on Jules. I am not a transgender person but I somewhat relate to her the most, the quote from her flashback scene struck me really hard: "Jules did not hate the world. But when you hate your body and how your mind works, it's hard to enjoy the rest.". I also had something similar at home as she had with her mom. I have a genetic disorder haemophilia (although a mild one) and also had a sever eczema when I was younger, it made me feel fragile and disgusting. Then also at the time being an artistic person never made feel like a 'man I was supposed to be' since I was sensitive. Then of course of all this got worse when my dad got into prison and when he came back he started drinking heavily which resulted in some domestic violence.
ahhhhh oml I love ur channel so much!!! I’m only a freshman but ur rly making me want to major in psychology in college because I’ve realized why I react the way I do to a lot of things and it’s super enlightening 💕💜
Also as an addict (sober for 8 years) with BPD This entire show season 1-2 is amazing and triggering at the same time. Media and a lot of others like to gloss over addiction and rarely ever go into depth about what its like to be an active addict let alone to show many different forms of addiction whether its being addicted to drugs, love/wanting to be loved, alcohol and so on.
Which characters should I do for my Euphoria Deep Dive series and why? Feel free to add what questions you'd like me to answer as well!
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I would love for you to analyse Cal‘s narcissism and it‘s genesis, the general family dynamic and the effect of Nate’s traumatic attachment injuries on his personality. I find, that one effect of chronic childhood trauma is almost never shown or analysed in depth: lack of empathy and transgressive and invasive affect dysregulation. The Jacobs family is one of the rare examples, where this effect of intergenerational attachment trauma is shown in quite a realistic way. I think this could be so educational if you would tackle this. Especially how one should/can interact healthily with people with these kinds of disorder (besides no contact) and what kind of treatment could actually be effective harm reduction, if Nate and/or Cal would ever be open to (or court mandated 😉) to undergo therapy.
I would love to see a deep dive on nates character. Even though he’s horrible his character has so much depth and deep rooted trauma he would be a good character to bring awareness from.
Also me and my boyfriend adore your videos keep it up!
I would love a deep dive on either Jules or Lexi !
(But maybe for Lexi wait for her episode there’s a lot we still don’t know about her)
i would love to see a deep dive on jules! specially about her special episode and what happens after it
I watched this episode with a friend who said Zendaya was "overacting" in the first scene. I grew up seeing this kind of behavior... the screaming, cursing, threatening, violence, breaking things, crying, family members fighting each other. I even called the police once because they were having a physical altercation at the top of the staircase. I was so scared that someone was going to get seriously hurt. My family criticized me for that and I ended up just accepting that sometimes families get like this... like it was normal. It was so disorienting to realize that some people have never ever seen something like this happen in real life. For me, it was so realistic.
I literally had to pause and breathe, it was too close to home. every moment of that, the violences then pauses then back to violence just felt too real.
I know, that was hauntingly accurate
OMG same. I was watching it and thinking "the acting is insane because this is extremely realistic"
it was realistic to me as well.
Your friend sounds extremely ignorant. I saw my parents and brother screaming at each other like all the time, like you said, I thought it was normal and felt shock when I realized other people never saw those things.
Laurie, the drug dealer definitely knew Rue was a drug addict she purposely gave her the suitcase so she can be in debt to her. And then gave Rue morphine knowing she’ll get more addicted so she will go back to her. When she said the thing about how even if you don’t have money as a women there is something that people want. Laurie doesn’t just seem like a drug dealer but a full blown sex trafficker.
OMG YES, when she said she never got angry, if you don't have money as a woman theres always something else, that freaked me out even more, i think she's far more dangerous than most drug dealers. when we saw the lock on the one room and rue woke up there with this guy, i thought hold her there and sold her to some men for the money.
@@sc0rpi0d0ll I think she already sold her that night. Someone was leaving in that car
yesss and Laurie “helped” rue after she knew she didn’t have the money. Also having a suitcase full of other drugs she chose an addictive one that would benefit her trafficking rue
Also she poked her with the needle around 5 times… sometimes even missing the vain… idk what thats about tho
@@username_creates6991 I think she was trying to make rue look more “used” especially if she is in sex trafficking, that would make a lot of sense
It’s interesting that Leslie visibly panics when she thinks Gia was doing drugs with Rue: and she slapped Rue when Rue went for Gia. Everyone has limits to their compassion and patience, and the idea of Gia being hurt because of/by Rue seems to be Leslie’s line.
I noticed that too! At that point I wonder if she’s just thinking “I have to do what I can to at least protect THIS child from going down that path if I can’t protect Rue”.
Gia been hurt by Rue tho. Growing with an addict sibling must be so traumatic. Her presence in the car was so unnecrssary
@@ines3770 it’s because her mom knew Gia was one of the few reasons Rue would actually go through and get admitted in the hospital/there’s no way Leslie alone could control Rue and keep her in the car. Gia unfortunately is too young to have this responsibility tho
@@Kylie-fr1cb yes! Rue actually says something along those lines to Gia and her mom trying to call them out and make them feel bad
And we can tell now that Gia patience and caring for rue it pretty much gone, (her not helping her mom look in the car) she’s just done and honestly I don’t blame her. When are things ever about Gia? When does she get time to be stress free? She should be putting herself first. Maybe her sister giving up on her will finally help her get clean. Maybe she needs to be completely alone. Either she’ll get clean or die and regardless of the decision, it might be better for Gia. She needs to grieve and move past this point in her life, rue is just prolonging her suffering
The scariest thing about Laurie is her "gentle" voice and attitude. She's evil on earth...
and her 0 expression face
She's definitely a sex trafficker. Everything she has done with Rue is to make sure that she's indebted to Laurie and addicted to even stronger drugs so that she would be willing to do anything to get a fix
@roberta aggressive people aren't scary because they're impulsive.. careful, and calculated people are scary, because they always get what they want and they know they will get it.
I think the cell death she explained to Rue probably happened to her. She said she used to be an addict, the substances probably caused her emotional range to die.
@@nataliajimenez1870 yep, dept bondage trafficking
First thing I thought about right after the episode is " I cannot wait to see what the The Truth Doctor has to say."
For real tho, I was waiting for this video the second the episode finished
same i’ve been waiting for this since sunday
Same
Same
Omg same I look forward to them just as much as the show itself
I would actually love an episode on all the PARENTS. I feel like a major theme in the show is how the experiences of our parents reflect onto us, and what the absence of parental intervention during teen years can do.
Yess!!
No, the show is about teenagers, not their parents
The part where Rue is in the bathtub saying she wants to die but her next sentence was “is this safe” wow I nearly couldn’t take it 😭
Because she is so in pain that she wants to die to make it stop but she doesn’t actually want to die
Even Rue asking if that was safe is a big red flag
@@sarahbgln why is that a big red flag? Her asking if it’s safe shows a glimmer of hope for her because deep down she doesn’t want to die and still cares about what happens to her
@@alissacathy8860 L
Also, right before she ran into traffic she said "please lord don't let me die" is the second time she's said that. I don't think she is as suicidal as she says, which is a good thing. She wants to escape all the pain and sadness but I don't think she actually wants to die.
I want to know more about Lexi and Cassie. With Lexi, how she disassociated through her painful childhood and escaped and how that affects her today. And with Cassie and her hypersexuality. I think there's so much more to understand with her because I've personally gone through similar issues as her and would love more insight
Something about Lexi that is very interesting to me is how differently she's reacted to her trauma than everyone else. Lexi also lost her father to drugs, her mother turned to alcohol, her best friend is a drug addict who pushed her away and her sister is pretty emotionally unavailable for the most part. I think this will be explored further on the play, and i'm very excited.
I feel like Lexi will get the episode after the next episode and we will get a true Lexi episode as the before the finale we need more from her
@@ashleybree1407 yeah episode 7 is the play
Also I would like to know more about the effects of Cassie's abortion
Though I wonder how doing a deep dive comparison on that would be.. because I'm confused how much of Cassie's hypersexualization is a true cause-and-effect realistic depiction and how much of its just director Sam's attempt to throw in more "sexy" scenes for the show lol.
Yeah, Fez dragging Rue out of his house at the first sign of violence shows that he's so used to addicts that he knows how to put firm boundaries
Shows that he's a bad person because he KNOWS what drug 4buse leads to and yet he sold it to rue at the beginning
@@Christina-zu2pf fez was raised by a violent drug dealer, this is all he knows, doesnt mean hes a bad person
@@jqa5708 yes, but he’s also enabled rue too, giving her drugs even when she had no money.
@@Mia_M yet its not like he never told rue to stop, he's been hesitant to give rue drugs and even told her not to ever since s1 ep1, but he doesnt want her out of his life bc he cares about her
@@Mia_M in s1 ep1 she basically guilt tripped him into making it seem like she NEEDED drugs as well
I feel for Gia so much in this episode. I was the one that called out my brothers addiction. I was always the one who told my dad and grandparents "he's lying to y'all." or "He's manipulating you"
I told my dad to drug test my brother in 2017 due to some addict behaviors I'd noticed. Our mom died from her addiction 4 years beforehand and I wasn't going to lose him too.
We tested him and he failed. After that my dad tried help him get clean with therapy and monitoring his money but it didn't work. it was SO hard watching my dad and grandparents suffer. It pissed me off if I am honest.
He stole jewelry and guns from my grandparents when he lived with him to pawn them. I remember them calling my dad and us going over there to confront him. I can still remember when he came in the house and I felt like I was looking at a stranger.
My brother went to rehab about 2.5 hours aways for 3 months and lived in sober living home for 6 months. He started asking everyone we knew for money. I tried to contact everyone we knew and tell them he had relapsed and if they gave him money that he was using it on drugs to not expect it back. I didn't say to not give him money but I asked that if he contacted them they tell him that they care about him and want him to get help.
When I started getting angry ctexts from people wanting me to pay his debt I had to post on Facebook and explain that he relapsed and ask ppl to not give him money. It was the hardest and most shameful thing I have ever done. I felt embarrassed and guilty for embarrassing him but I was starting to worry for me and my dad's safety and well-being.
My brother was furious and he was texting me really hurtful things. I told him I couldn't be in his life anymore until he was clean. That week he found a rehab and checked himself in. He wrote me letters but I still had a hard boundary. I wasn't ready to talk to him. It took us a year to get back into a good place.
Now he is 3.5 years sober and he is my best friend. I couldn't be prouder. I say l this to say loving an addict is hard and there is no manual for it.
I am so proud of the man my brother is today and he's told me that one of the key moments of him deciding to go back to rehab was me 1. cutting off his resources and 2. cutting him off.
You made me tear up, I’m so happy things worked out in the end ❤️
@@playagamelp2441 me too! Thank you, I tear up when I think about how far he’s come too. 4 years ago I wouldn’t have believed you if you told me he’d be by bestfriend. 4 years ago my dad and I were mentally preparing ourselves for the worst. Now he’s got a good job, works hard, has his own apartment, and he has over 3 years sober. He watches Euphoria too and he says it reminds him why he can never go back
i’m so happy things worked out at the end
@@ccamilacedeno thank you❤️ I’m thankful too. There’s hope for every addict once they want it for themselves
thats so sad :(
Rue was going through withdrawal, but she also developed a kidney infection during a depressive episode in season 1. That’s why she’s holding her stomach and keeps peeing.
you also have to pee like every 30 minutes in opiate withdrawal because you aren't peeing much when you're using. it was one of the more surprising aspects of withdrawal when it happened to me. your bodily systems is beginning to function properly again.
Please do a deep dive on Cassie. A look at how her love of being loved has shaped her would be amazing.
I second that. im really interested to hear if the need to be loved is really that much stronger than a deep friendship? nate is abusive, how is that better than having a loving friend
@@MarieTheOstrich part of it could be that since she’s been hyper-sexualized since a young age she’s been conditioned to associate love with physicality. Sure her friends love her but she can’t have sex with her friends
agree, i’d also love a video about cassie and jules together, because they’re two characters that often mirror each other despite not interacting much in the show. like they both so deeply love to be loved and they both have a history of constantly needing to be in short or long term sexual relationships
I really appreciate that you acknowledge Gia's trauma. A lot of my childhood looked a lot like that opening segment - I've been the "Rue" in the fight, but 99 times out of 100 I was the "Gia" trying desperately to drown it out. I didn't realize until now as an adult how much that experience impacted my behaviors and decision making, and all I can say is... Gia needs a really good therapist!! And it's very validating for you to acknowledge how much this scenario hurts her even though Rue is the main focus right now.
I’ve always liked euphoria but it has never truly hit me until this episode. When I was in high school I almost lost my best friend to an overdose. I was so scared to speak up and tell someone because I thought that meant betraying her. I’m still struggling to forgive myself. So it’s nice to see it put on screen that Jules was able to tell her mom, it’s so important
I’d love a deep dive on Cassie’s hypersexuality and people pleaser issues. I always related to her in season 1 because of the absent father/neglectful mother stuff but watching Cassie in season 2 is like watching myself in 2014 and it doesn’t feel good.
It makes me sad to read all the sexist comments online regarding Cassie when I know exactly how I felt going through a remarkably similar situation (minus the best friend element) and it wasn’t good. I really feel for her.
I’d like one on Nate but I’d also hate it. Does that make sense? There’s NOTHING positive about Nate. I feel so much for him in terms of the trauma he’s experienced, but he’s done nothing to redeem himself. I’ve had my Mum speak to me like Cal did during his rant last episode and it destroyed a huge part of me is2g.
Yeah I’ve noticed people are not really understanding the messages in Euphoria. And how no one in the show is perfect and they are all going through their own battles. They’re quick to just call Jules and Cassie names and say they hate them.
We learn why the do the things that they do. And I feel for Cassie, because she loves to be loved bc of that she is a people pleaser. Her and Jules crave love. Genuine or not. And they’ve been through terrible situations. Example: abortion, sexualization, black mail, and nudes being shared, Jules sex life, having someone in the family who is addicted to drugs. So it’s more then just them being a bad friend or person. It’s the effects of what they’ve gone through.
@@otaku11bts23 but people use it to excuse their actions. Lots of us grow up exactly like that and have the same issues, but we don’t become like Jules and Cassie. While it explains why they do the stuff they do, it doesn’t justify it, which is what I see a lot of people doing.
@@otaku11bts23 ok but they severely lack integrity and Cassie had every right moment to tell Maddie that she hooked up with Nate yet she refused. Cassie liked being Nate’s little secret and got a thrill off of sneaking away from Maddie and seeing him in private. Cassie definitely has issues with abandonment but she had absolutely no right to betray her best friend and try to act like she’s doing the right thing.
@@Pink_pr1ncess I understood it in another way, when Cassie said that she liked being Nate's little secret it was a "performance" (it even reminded me a lot of porn, how girls in there act), as a people pleaser she knows what to say to please them. She probably didn't actually meant that but will say anything to keep him. And it's the same thing with sneaking off, she probably doesn't like having to meet him in secret but she doesn't know how to love herself and respect herself enough to ask for more. She'll take anything anyone gives her. Turn out to be Nate but it could've been anyone. Yeasss it's wrong to do that with your best friend, but literally every character has done bad things, the point in Euphoria it's to show what has led them to that
@@KatAlSilva 100%
I met a guy in 2014 and was with him for 6 months when I found out he had a girlfriend who lived abroad.
He told me it wasn’t particularly serious with her and manipulated me so much that I had a breakdown, lost my job, lost my friends. All because of this abusive relationship where I was being gaslit, lied to, manipulated etc. The abuse came after I found out and his “simple” life was ruined.
I already had abandonment issues, BPD and severe anxiety. I’d just ended a relationship before this one and had moved to a big new city alone. I was so taken in by his toxic shit and I can hand on my heart admit I said shit like “I love that I’m your secret.” word for word. And multiple times.
You’re so scared to lose this person because they’ve slowly worked their way into your brain and you feel as though you’d stop breathing if they ever left.
Cassie is being selfish and disloyal but she’s also dealing with grief, loss and trauma with a Mum who doesn’t seem to care more than how Cassie looks on the outside and a bunch of guys telling her all she’s good for is for s*x and a Dad who left her.
I think the explanation about the way the brain is built and functions is so important for people to hear. Because I feel like a lot of audience members just judge her for her behaviour and are done with her because they think she’s a horrible person. But Rue is literally so controlled by her addiction, what it does to her brain and what it makes her do. She admits that she doesn’t even recognise herself. Usually Rue is the complete opposite and a very calm person. But addiction can cause you to become someone completely different. So the opening scene leaves a lot of people shocked because they have never experienced or gone through anything like this themselves, which means they can’t even begin to understand where she’s coming from. But her meltdown is actually incredibly accurate and a realistic portrayal of the way a desperate person that suffers from any kind of addiction will behave. And while you as a family member literally don’t know what to do anymore, the amount of aggression can just reflect on you because of that, and start making you communicate in the same aggressive tone in order to get through to them. But as long as they don’t realise their behaviour is wrong, nothing will. Watching the scene reminded me of situations in my own life to an extent that it was actually almost too painful to watch because it felt so incredibly authentic. Not just the ways in which an addict will behave and react in destructive ways. Also the helplessness of family members, who have to watch a person they love become someone so removed from their actual self they don’t even recognise them anymore. I think the show did I great job of portraying the really horrific impact addiction has on a family.
that’s why i love these deep dives. people watch this show and a lot of people seem to perceive all actions and thoughts and feelings as fact and seem to believe the creators support these actions. when the truth is this show is incredibly subjective and shows things from characters points of view so much that you need to actually see the characters as flawed people and not just characters.
It really is good,Dopesick (Hulu limited series) also did depict how addiction affect the community really well
Cassie: I think it could touch majority topic of revenge porn, perfect victim, daddy issues and how the sexism of it all plays how folks don’t seem to wanna be sympathetic *[* *edited added in* in reference to high standards adultifcation folks seems to hold young girls too cause let’s be real folks hold girls and women responsible for every little be it appropriate or not with now room for to just be humans who at times are messy af *]* to her and expect her to be perfect at all times instead of her being a guide who doesn’t have good guides and support and that reflects in a lot of characters, seeing how they’re all in toxic environment it’s not surprising they adapt to it
i feel sypathy for her automatically but i think its cause shes white
I feel for Cassie because she’s just as much an addict as rue but her drug is affection and I know for sure it’s not because she’s white because I also feel bad for rue her mom and her sister. Who are obviously not white. And really feel bad for the person who said it was because of her skin colour and would suggest therapy to deal with your racist inclinations cause it’s pretty gross 🤮
@@oops130 sounds like you got some issues too
Cassie doesn’t deserve sympathy she’s just pretty lmfao
I can have empathy for her, but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to call her out either.
This episode was so incredible, so harrowing to watch unfold. Laurie scares the fucking shit out of me though😭, the scratching behind that locked door has me so so scared for rue and and her family.
Wait what I didn’t even hear that
it’s the fact that laurie is so nonchalant about it too. she doesn’t get angry and she’s very logical in terms of business and, although she doesn’t discern empathy, she also doesn’t care to let it front her judgment.
she’s very cold and merciless - a figure you wouldn’t perceive threatening because her lack of anger and monotone voice isn’t the usual “ideal” head drug operator.
literally, she scares the shit outta me so bad. 😭
I'm still thinking of that one comment Laurie made that Rue didn't even register, "It's one of the good parts of being a woman. Even if you don't have money you've still got something people want." She will make good on her promise to sell Rue which I never doubted but the way she slipped that in so nonchalantly 😭 Also the fact that she told Rue she didn't have pills and only had liquid morphine but then we see her grab the liquid morphine from a suitcase that has plenty of pills in it. She wants Rue to get worse and worse but pretends otherwise. Absolutely terrifying.
The moment I saw rue go to Laurie with a “business” plan , I knew she will end up dead. I am scared for her she really got herself involved with really dangerous people.
@@liliebilie i completely agree!
someone also pointed out how laurie knew rue lied about being sober and predicted laurie wanted rue to get in debt anyway so she could make better profit on rue’s body.
this episode is the first time jules has ever seen Rue actually experience a breakdown of some sort. like she knows she’s gotten depressed and she’s seen her high but this is the first time she’s ever seen her this upset or angry about anything and that’s why rue was so embarrassed
Please do a deep dive of Maddy! I feel like she gets overlooked a lot when it comes to people analyzing her actions because people see her as just being sassy and even a “bad person” (because of her allegations against Tyler) but I would love to hear your opinions about the role that her upbringing played in her abusive relationship with Nate and how that affected her actions with the whole Tyler situation. Plus, I feel like there’s definitely a conversation to be had about her being Latina in a predominantly white school with predominantly white friends and how that might affect the image others have of her and the expectations she may feel she has to meet (I.e. feeling the need to exude confidence when she’s just 16/17 and is putting up a persona like everyone else, or even feeling like her environment might not be safe for her to be vulnerable in the way that Cassie is always able to be because others might assume that it means she’s weak and take advantage of her, etc)
I want to personally see deep dive episode on Fezco and Ash. It boggles me how calm Fezco can be in such dangerous situations and how Ash being so young is able to partake so casually in them too.
Jules being able to hold her line with rue so well even though she’s clearly hurting is excellent. as the daughter of an addict of course she knows what she needs to do and it hurts her so much.
I'd love to see a deep dive on Nate. There is just so much to his character. I feel like his entire life he has tried to create this very toxic and hypermasculine version of himself that along the way he has lost who he truly is, that's why he acts so emotionless and cold all the time and is just filled with so many secrets that even his dad has no idea who he is. I think the only time he ever really showed his true self was when he was texting Jules and that's why I think their character journeys mirror each other. Just like Jules is trying to conquer femininity, Nate's journey is to conquer masculinity.
1. I'd like a deep dive on gia. I don't think people realise how much trauma she possibly has because of rue being an addict and her dad dying. I can't imagine seeing your sister overdose and talking about killing herself. Gia is struggling to keep herself together and soon enough she's going to explode.
2. Lexi and gia are quite similar but lexi is more logical while gia's more emotional. I feel like more people focus on rue and cassie but not lexi and gia.
I saw a lot of tweets about this episode that bothered me. My older brother was in active addiction for my college years and I learned a lot about addiction and how much it affects the family. It put me in the deepest depression and anxiety I have ever been in and I lost my mom at 15.
1. I saw was praising Rue for yelling at Jules and Elliot. While I agree they should feel bad about the cheating, I don't think that is what Rue was made about. She was mad about them getting her caught. Jules and Elliot did the right thing in my opinion.
2. People also called Elliot a snake. I thought think it was wrong that he told. He should have done it a while ago but it needed to happen.
3. Rue should have told Maddy about Nate because she cares not because Cassie was pissing her off for trying to be positive. It was straight up diversion.
What Elliot did wrong was to not tell Jules that Rue did not owe those drugs in the suitcase and that she would be getting in deep shit if she did not pay for its contents. Rue told him her plan and he knows from his own experience how ruthless drug dealers can be to settle a debt. Jules and Rue's mom needed to know that Rue and her family could be in danger if that suitcase was not returned
Same everyone is convinced that Elliot is a bad guy just cause he came in between Rue and Jules, they did that to themselves by choosing to lie to each other. And I do feel like Cassie was trying to be supportive because her dad is an addict, but Rue feeling judged and wanting a way out threw Cassie under the bus.
Nate would be a interesting deep dive to hear. He's egocentric, angry, twisted and calculating, but inside he's a little boy begging for his fathers approval. Not saying any of his actions have been right
He’s still abusive tho
Totally agree I’d love to see a breakdown on him
I love love LOVE Zendaya's portrayal of an addict and the overall writing of the people around her and how they react to her struggles. I'm very surprised nobody's cut her out of their lives yet, it seems like a reasonable boundary some would set for their own sakes.
Your description of rue going in and out of using different coping mechanisms (like breathing and outwardly saying she misses her dad) was so eye opening to me!! It makes it 10x more heart breaking though :( i'm rooting for rue 😭 thanks for the awesome videos i love your analysis ❤️❤️
Your simplified explanation of what’s happening in the brain from survival to emotional to cognitive was so AWESOME. I’ve been experiencing severe chronic ptsd symptoms and I’m going to share that part of your video with my family!
I also wanted to add that I think the tie btw Nate and Jules is gonna circle back re: the idea of being told you’re a regret or cause of others pain. I hope it doesn’t go where I think it might for either of those characters. I’m happy they included how close Rue came to being put into trafficking with no hope of getting away - it can happen to anyone at anytime in this world.
Great video for a great episode! The acting and cinematography 💯 reminded me of what it felt like when I was running to rock bottom before I got into trauma therapy. Remember to have empathy for everyone ❤️
Time? :) I gotta take a break from watching scenes they were a bit too heavy this week
@@Andyyoureastar 5:32!
i’m glad to see how you responded to cassie and rue. many people online have been judging cassie and saying she gave bad empty advice because she wanted to be seen as a good person but you saw it for what i think it was, a girl trying to help her childhood friend and that friend rejecting the help and lashing out.
I'm happy to see I wasn't the only one who thought this, it seems weird to me that people expected Cassie to be able to actually help. Obviously Cassie isn't in any position to give Rue tangible help or therapise her and showing a bit of kindness is all she can do
I would love to see a deep dive into Rue and what caused her and Jules to connect so deeply, why are they codependent? How did Rues family dynamic play a part in her downfall. The repercussions of putting children on medication so early in life? Also a deep dive into Nate’s family dynamic, how did his fathers double life seem to only affect him? Why are they all sexual deviants? I love your channel by the way, amazing!
I can say that in Jules' episode with her therapist, she basically admits that Rue was the only romantic female partner that saw her and loved her for herself, unconditionally, the way her mother had. She wasn't competitive and judgmental of her the way other girls her age were.
I think Rue loves that Jules is different--seemingly confident and artistic, driven. Yet, she also has a lot of vulnerabilities.
I think a lot of it is also that Rue had an idealised version of Jules. She built her up in her head and it’s begun to hit her that Jules is more complicated than that.
Also a big part of the draw Jules has to Rue was explained in her special episode. Because her mother is also an addict, Rue’s addiction feels familiar to Jules and through that relationship she’s trying to fix her relationship with her mother.
I have to say I wouls love to watch such an analysis on Jules and, as much as I hate saying this, a dive into Nate's character as well to kind of figure out how much of his evil is innate and how much of it is related to his upbringing hm
Rue and Jules both struggle with self-worth and core wounds related to loss, which can be a precursor to codependency. You could say that Jules' fantasy is to be perfect in someone else's eyes - a muse - because her own sense of self rests upon what others mirror back to her. This is why she seeks external validation to such a high degree, and is vulnerable to people who seek to exploit that (Cal, Nate, Elliott). Rue, in turn, puts Jules on a pedestal so to speak, perhaps seeing herself as lucky simply to be the subject of Jules' affection. She has low self-esteem and as the narrator portrays Jules as the 'interesting one' as if Rue is not equally interesting as a person. The two of them get caught up in a codependent cycle because Jules gets validation of being 'perfect' and Rue gets validation of feeling 'chosen by someone special.'
Shes back for more! Loving these. It gives us so much more insight thank you!
Thank YOU for watching! ❤
The part that stood out to me was when Rue realized Jules heard everything and now knows the ugly version of her that she has tried to keep a secret for so long. The switch of emotions in her face from Shocked, Embarrassed, sad, and angry was chef's kiss perfection I caught second hand embarrassment!
Thank you so much for talking about how Rue's childhood has shaped the way her brain functions.
I think this is exactly what Rue needed tough love, Fez did the right thing. I have to admit she is freaking lucky. She got away from being sold as a sex slave.
It’s still going to get even worse for Rue before she gets a grip of herself.
Did she? Got away? She was in bed, and someone was leaving the house in that car...
We have to be careful with "tough love". Rue has already very little regard for her life, so "tough love" can end up in her deciding to end her life. And she almost did in going back to such a dangerous person like Laurie and telling her that she couldn't pay her the money she owed her. She would not only exposing herself to be killed but becoming a sex slave. I recommend joining groups like Nar-Anon, a support group for relatives and friends of addicts to get better guidance about a specific case. Sometimes tough love may help, sometimes you need a hybrid approach
I don’t think she was bathing Rue, giving her drugs and giving her a place to sleep was for nothing. When that car was leaving I realized it already happened that night.
I also saw a theory where they said she was injected in her left arm when she was bathing her. But when she woke up you could see her RIGHT arm was injected several times and she could’ve been there for a longer period of time.
@@starseedsherry4357 Do you think that she was being sold? Or what else could have happened?
I would really love to hear your deep dive into Cassie and Jules; because these two have done and are doing some questionable things that I can't understand and I really feel a connection with myself and their characters. thank you for your amazing videos. hope you the bests.
I thought the same about the suitcase it’s not just the drugs you can tell she’s really scared for her and her family that’s why she goes steal stuff to make up for it..
Your ability to not play into the "drama" of the show and to treat the characters as actual people is what makes your channel so phenomenal.
Can you please talk about how cassie and jules are reflections of each other (their characters problems and personalities) and 100% NATE we still don’t know if he’s attracted to men, traumatized by his father from seeing all of his p0rnography or if he’s just a domineering person that needs to be in control and preserve his masculinity even if it comes off as homoerotic
KAT shes such an interesting character that i think a lot of young girls relate to/ fell into the same place she did. Its a really tough topic to talk about let alone live though and i think it needs more attention.
The part when Leslie said “ I raised you!! You will not scare me!..” as she teared up it broke my heart , because you can tell she wasn’t necessarily scared of her but scared FOR her.
I think Cassie deserves a deep dive because the internet seems to really think the worst of her but I think she's a very relatable character
Did you catch in that episode how there was scratching coming from behind the padlocked door at Laurie’s house? And when Rue was in the bath Laurie said something along the lines of “when you’re a woman there’s always something people want”.
What happened between the bathtub and her waking up in the room? How long was she asleep?
Even though she got out, now she has the “taste” for IV drugs and is going to be even more desperate. I think Laurie didn’t fully lock her in the room because she knew she already had her. Rue is going to come back looking for more drugs. I rly think Laurie is going try and traffic her or be her pimp or something. She will probably “convince” Rue to “willingly” submit to things to pay back her drug debt.
She knew what she was doing when she gave her the suitcase. She knew she wasn’t going to be able to pay it back. It was all her manipulation from the start and it’s going just as planned now.
She even said “I knew you’d be in my life for a long time”
She makes my skin crawl but that actress is incredible
Exactly this.
I have been trying to wrap my head around this episode since I’ve seen it and I’ve been struggling with such strong feelings because of it. Thank you so much for your insight!!
I’m an RN, but have been a bit sheltered from addiction, so while I understand the science of it, I really appreciated how you broke everything down. I have such strong empathy skills so all of your takes have really helped me expand that.
Thank you again, you’re amazing.
I would like a deep dive on Laurie. I wanna know how someone can be so evil yet so calm. She must have seen so much messed up stuff yet has that composure. Also the fact that she was a school teacher and she can treat rue like that. The psychology behind her charecter sounds really interesting. Also fez’s grandma would be cool for a deep dive. Idk if the show will elaborate more on the characters but hopefully they will :)
anybody else hear the scratching behind the locked doors in Laurie’s house?? i think she’s already holding girls in there and the birds might be a cover up noise… i think rue lied about the amount of drugs she does and her tolerance so laurie didn’t give her enough to successfully drug her… idk just a theoryyyyy
As a doubtless controversial aside, I appreciate how this show validates the option of abortion at certain times. (Yes, I think Cassie and her classmates should not be so hypersexual and careless about protection. I also think Cassie's mom should not have allowed her to go away for a weekend with McKay, as unwanted pregnancy can be one of the results.) But, clearly, Cassie and McKay were in no condition to be parents! Cassie was not at all ready to experience a pregnancy or go through an adoption set-up, as she has deep, emotional instability now, including alcohol abuse. A six-week-old fetus is the size of a seed pearl. It is clearly NOT a baby then. Yes, people have a right to their religious beliefs on this topic, but they should not be allowed to impose them on the rest of society.
If anything it’s a good thing she did it cause the baby would have fetal alcohol syndrome and would be very nutritionally deprived. The fact that contraception isn’t free and just healthcare in general is the dumbest thing ever. If all that was free, it would cut down so much on abortions and the use of the morning after pill
@@cmg9904 I agree. Or, it should be covered by most insurance plans. The cost of unwanted or even unplanned children is immense to society. Yes, babies can be unplanned and still wanted, and parents/families can make it work. But so often, this is not the case. You only have to look so far as Nate and Aaron Jacobs. These two have deep troubles, because the father did not really want them nor a nuclear family.
Cassie was for sure emotionally unstable BEFORE that, but it definitely made it worse and things (her feelings) became a lot harder for her to run away from so that's why she ended up doing what she did with Nate. I mean the season opens with talking about how Cassie's depressed. She filled the void with Nate so she didn't have to deal with her own shit. Been there sans the best friend thing.
I’m very interested in Lexie and Cassie especially because they experienced the same childhood traumas (of course everybody is different so every experience is perceveid differently) but they have very different coping mechanisms. You know, for Cassie is more obvious because, as we can all see, she put herself in very shitty situations but for Lexi is not so clear, we’ve seen so much less about her. I’d really love a deep diving inside their minds.
Moreover, the reason why I’m interested in this two sisters is because I can relate with their childhood issues. Having a father whom you really love, who abandons you and being stuck with a mother who’s very different from the “usual” mother type.
As someone who had a lot of trauma at a young age (for reference, the biggest being my mom died when I was 11 after being severely ill for my entire life), I became more like Lexi. For me, I think it's maybe a little bit of my internal moral compass that turned me away from becoming like Cassie, but also, I got my attention for being "good"... a people pleaser, conflict avoidant, an enabler, "unproblematic" which has been a lot of what we have seen from Lexi so far. Being abandoned at a young age, you want to do everything you can to NOT push people away by letting them maybe take advantage of your kindness or friendship. Cassie does the same thing but just in a different way; mostly through male validation which I think has to do with her being a little bit older when everything went down with their dad, she was kind of maybe roped into it a little more and it severely hurt her. Cassie does everything she can to avoid her pain but you know it's there. Lexi just pretends like it doesn't exist.
Great video. One of the best and most empathetic reactions to what Rue is going through. Zendaya, Nika King, and Storm Reid's acting 🔥
1) I would LOVE to see a deep dive on cassie and kat
2) the explanation on the brain switching between rational and irrational states was actually extremely informative so ty for that
3) zendaya👏🏾needs👏🏾her👏🏾emmy👏🏾
i do know it can be very exhausting to deal with addicts and most time can really affect mental health of surrounding ppl to the point ppl just give up to care/help... but rue is still having support system and resources, the only thing is she must have to care about herself and accept the love from herself to herself for her to be better and healthier.
i know in reality many ppl do not have support system and resources to get better/sober/healthier, and left dying in the street because nobody visibly care for them. And to think about reality in our society, clearly reality is much harsher than storyline in tv, but i am so happy that the show can deliver some irl traumas and in hoping for the solution to help ppl with those traumas.
I would love love love a deep dive on Cassie. She reminds me so much of myself in high school and her history with her dad hits home too.
What's sad is that I can relate to Rue a little bit. I've never been involved with drugs or any addictive substances, but I was angry at all the loss I had faced in my childhood, and I took that anger out on other people. I still am, and I still do sometimes. I fought with my mother like that. I had huge breakdowns like that, switching from storming around the house to crying and apologizing profusely. I still have those breakdowns sometimes.
It is so hard to cope with so many emotions at once, but like you said, it can be done. And there is an explanation for such intense mood swings. I hope that I only continue to get better, and I know that watching your channel is helping me in doing that. Thank you for all you do
I would like to see a deep dive into Jules! I feel like people are being way too harsh on her. She has done wrong but I think people are failing to take into account that hypersexuality and a need to be loved can stem from trauma. I'm a trans woman with a very similar backstory to her and being hyper sexualised and fetishized by such a large group of men who would go to any length to stop people from finding out really fucks with you after a while, especially when society at large places our entire self worth onto how attractive/passing we are and we grew up in an age where the only time we saw trans women represented was within the context of "tricking" men. My heart breaks for her because I know exactly why she's doing what she's doing and I know she wants to change but doesn't know how yet.
honestly I think Jules is very solid in her own way she never dishes out negativity or malice, her actions are from her own sense of not being lovable not being worthy of love. I can empathize with her this season cause first season Rue was sooo into her 1000% so much adoration and now theyre actually together and Rue seems, at best, inattentive. That's really damaging to someone who already struggles with self esteem to be told that they are loved, but the actions dont show any love.
Honestly this is why people like yourself and allies like myself have to keep making the slow painful changes needed in society. Because yes back in our parents generation and our grandparents generation that was unfortunately how transgender people where seen, not so much from my dad's side of the family because his parents put a very big emphasis on teaching us grandkids along with my dad and his siblings the importance of empathy and compassion and representations like that just fell under the umbrella of things where not exposing our kids or grandkids too, but from mum's side of the family yeah I did see stuff like that. And it was that combined with learning about my own sexuality that made me realise things in society have to change.
Didn't know how much I needed to hear advice from a therapist, we don't have much of therapy where I'm from, love your reactions to the show
Sadly the first few scene(s)of episode 5 was something that triggered me and brought back mad flashbacks . The physical altercations, the screaming , the destruction is something I grew up with all the time from age 12 to 24 and even now I’m still trying to help, love me, take care of myself . I suffer And is diagnosed with CPTSD, and to be in therapy and to learn to control your emotions and flash backs ( like the side effects of CPTSD is like starting over again . And unlearning these behaviors )
Those human trafficking implications with the lock on the door and scratching sounds. Fucking terrifying.
I can not imagine how Euphoria is gonna end? If they wanna do a Season 3 (waht i think because the Show is so popular right now), that means that Rue is maybe still a addict or still got a lot of problems and so far we see she is literally at the end. What yall think how long they gonna keep this Show up?
I think they'll show her in rehab and actually try to become sober
they are having a season three they announced it on insta
I think season 3 could be the last but if they will do more then it will be 4 seasons max
@Mt. WHATITDEW they could do the skins thing and move on to a new set of classmates once they graduate
I personally think they should end at season 4 and go out with a bang! But I would love to see them go to like 6th season. They should start building Gia’s point of view in season 3 and her perspective in high school. While also planting the seed with new characters to be explored in later seasons. This way when the upper classmates graduate we will already be used to seeing some of the new faces.
I think it would be very interesting for us the fans for you to do a deep dive on Jules and Cassie. I've seen a lot of people hating these 2 characters and I just think that is quite unfair. With that being said I believe your analysis of this 2 characters can help these "haters" to understand more about Euphoria's characters in general.
Thank you for the episode 5 analysis. Your comments and explanation is very helpful.
( Sorry if I made any grammar mistakes, English is not my mother language)
@@ariesa9751 Good point 👍
Just commenting for the algorithm. This channel deserves more views :)
Please do a deep dive on Jules, Cassie, and Cal. I see myself in every single one of them and would love to hear your input on what makes them be the way they are.
THANK YOU for this!!! Also, I really appreciate you clarifying and also refuted whoever said all drug addicts are liars and can't be trusted. I find that so infuriating because I knew someone who was a drug addict, and even though it was a tough road for them, they didn't lie "all the time" or they "can't be trusted" while they were going through it. I think that comment is rude. And also, I think whoever said that never had any experience with addicts, or only had experience with very few.
I think we need to hear a deep dive into Cassie and Jules just because I’ve noticed a lot of people are spreading a lot of hate on these characters. Calling Jules and Cassie names. People hate Jules because she cheated and left rue when she needed her. And people hate Cassie because of obvious reasons obvious reasons
You’re acting as if people hate Cassie and Jules for no reason 💀
@@Pink_pr1ncess i mean the only people in the show who haven't done anything worse than Jules are kat and lexi
Thank you for these videos doctor. I prefer watching your reactions to the episodes than actually watching the episodes themselves. I feel like I gain a lot more knowledge and comfort as well having you react to them and explaining to us as we go along
Thank you for explaining the different parts of the brain and how people react differently from moment to moment using those separate parts. I was just dismissing Rue as someone who doesn’t want to live but then she left Laurie’s apartment knowing she was In trouble. If she didn’t want to live she would have stayed where the drugs were.
I would love a deep dive into Cassie beacause I see a lot of my self in her and the way she acts sometimes even thought no parent has ever abandoned me so I think it would help me a bit
I dont know if you have already, but I would recommend watching the silent voice. It is an amazing movie and a unique take on depression and mental health. Truly a beautful masterpiece I have a feeling you will like it
I want to know more about Gia, I think many of us have been in a hard situation with our own family despite is an addict or a problematic person, I think Gia is having a serious trauma and hard time.
wow, ive seen nothing but hate for jules and cassie all over the internet so im so happy to find such sympathetic people in ur comment section point that out, i love your channel and its cool to see how your content shapes your audience and i love the empathetic rational subscribers you've attracted
this person is so smart and brave holy shiii, thank you for sharing your story of substance abuse with us
Another stellar video! I’m starting to feel like Dr. Courtney is my therapist and our appointments are Tuesdays at noon. I’m learning so much! ❤️
I would love to see a deep dive into the Howard sisters dynamic and their different ways of dealing with the same trauma of their father abandonment and Suze's alcoholism. They also have opposite experiences, Cassie being overly sexualized since a young age and gaining unwanted attention from men making her feel that she can only be valued through her appereance and Lexi being ignored by both of her parents and Rue (all of them addicts funny enough) and not getting attention making her feel like an outsider and observer. I find it so fascinating to see the parallels in their issues and how they have almost have opposite responds to trauma.
Harm reduction is so important and efficient! Specially as a someone who is autistic and has difficulty letting go of any routine, even if bad.
Another great episode! I’d love for you to do a deep dive on Kat, we aren’t getting much from the actual show in terms of her story so I’d love to see your perspective on her arc since season 1!
I would love a deep dive on Lexi! Even though we don’t know how her character arc is going to end up this season, I would like to hear your thoughts on her passiveness and copping with writing.
Such a triggering episode. The acting was Incredible. Thank you for the insight doc🙏.
Why does Jules love to be loved? I feel what Rue said about Jules was true..harsh but true 🤷♀️
In no way am I therapist or phycologist but I think that Jules loves to be loved because she didn’t have it when she was growing up. Her mom was a drug addict who barely paid attention to her, she then put her in this institution for who knows how long. While being in that place she had no real source of love. Now that she’s older when people love her she loves this feeling, is a euphoric feeling she has never experienced before
i'm so excited to watch this AHHHHH
I hope you enjoy! Let me know what you think ❤
please do a deep dive into Jules. the poor girl gets more hate than any other character online except for Nate (and sometimes even more than Nate) and is so deeply judged, misunderstood, and blamed for Rue's relapses and drug use. I think she would be an incredible character to do a breakdown of partially to help build some empathy for a character that deserves it, because I know that people in positions similar to her online are probably feeling incredibly isolated right now.
Thank you so much for sharing your past experience. To hear someone that has become successful after dealing with substances abuse is really and truly is inspiring. My life has spiraled out of control trying to conceal my drug habits and finally I had an outburst of anger that completely changed my life forever. I identify with Rue so much and im so happy that this show exist so that people can see an addicts point of view as well as the people who have loved ones that are addicts as well.
8:55 So did Rue project her pain on Jules? But in a simply "I want you to suffer as much as I do" way or did she actually talk about herself when she verbally abused her? Personally I think a lot of stuff she said about Jules was more fitting for Rue like "sucking life/joy out of people" which she does as an addict to the ones close to her, but doesn't fit Jules at all
thats what i thought too!!
It would be interesting how their upbringing affected Lexi and Cassie. It seems we know more about how her dad affected Cassie and she looks for love in every guy, but I wonder about Lexi. They essentially lost their dad, almost like Rue did. Moreover, their mom is a confirmed alcoholic! Have a good day!
I’d love a deep dive into Cassie. I think she is starved of affection; having her father abandon his family and what seems to be an emotionally neglectful mother. I thinks it would be interesting to (try to) understand how this type of neglect is pushing her towards unhealthy relationships and emotional attachments.
please do a deep dive into Gia and Jules.
we all know why anynody would choose Gia but Jules is a little bit of an unpopular opinion here: transition is not easy. EVER. and she has had huge issues with Nate and his father and obviously, her mother.
i really think it would help us understand her character more.
I really liked what you said about people being able to recover. I’ve seen a lot of people online saying that Rue is too far gone now (usually with not much knowledge/ experience of addiction), which is not necessarily true. She is very entrenched, but people can be much more resilient than we expect. I also found it really interesting when you explained the emotional processes that happened in the argument - I’ve had very similar arguments to that in the context of addiction, eating disorders and also autistic meltdowns (I’m recovering/ recovered from the first two but still have bad autistic meltdowns every so often) and I’ve never been able to understand what triggers the seesaw from rage to depression to guilt and back, but what you said made sense and I think having a better understanding might help me with my meltdowns, so thank you 😊
Watching the show feels so much better with your comments! The depth of it and your knowledge is soooo amazing
This episode was SOOOOOO INTENSE OMFG😭😭😭😭😭
I just discovered you but I would love to see a deep dive into Cassie; I find her so relatable.
i was JUST thinking about you posting again!! love love love ur work!!!!!!!! seriously hoping you'll gain more views because you ABSOLUTELY deserve it
That suitcase is one helluva metaphor...
I value you insight because you’re a professional and may have dealt with some of these people before
please do a deep dive into jules! pretty much most of the story is narrated by rue, who doesn't really know jules' side of the story because jules hasn't really opened up to rue. since that one special episode was really the only way for us viewers to get a sense of jules' side of things, it'd be great if you did a deep dive on her to help us fans better understand her character!
finally an intellectual review about euphoria characters❤️
Love hearing your perspective on the show!!
Lexi because so far she has been the victim of the trauma caused by victims of some other trauma and it would relatable to alot of people hopefully 😭
Love your videos! I would love to see a deep dive on Lexi and Jules.
I would like you to do a breakdown on Jules. I am not a transgender person but I somewhat relate to her the most, the quote from her flashback scene struck me really hard: "Jules did not hate the world. But when you hate your body and how your mind works, it's hard to enjoy the rest.". I also had something similar at home as she had with her mom.
I have a genetic disorder haemophilia (although a mild one) and also had a sever eczema when I was younger, it made me feel fragile and disgusting. Then also at the time being an artistic person never made feel like a 'man I was supposed to be' since I was sensitive. Then of course of all this got worse when my dad got into prison and when he came back he started drinking heavily which resulted in some domestic violence.
Love your honesty and hearing your perspective!
ahhhhh oml I love ur channel so much!!! I’m only a freshman but ur rly making me want to major in psychology in college because I’ve realized why I react the way I do to a lot of things and it’s super enlightening 💕💜
Also as an addict (sober for 8 years) with BPD This entire show season 1-2 is amazing and triggering at the same time. Media and a lot of others like to gloss over addiction and rarely ever go into depth about what its like to be an active addict let alone to show many different forms of addiction whether its being addicted to drugs, love/wanting to be loved, alcohol and so on.