How Enigma machine was cracked | Bombe machine | Part-2

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  • @matiasmercado3304
    @matiasmercado3304 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This and previous introduction are the best videos i have found to explain in a technical way the bombe machine. Congrats and thank you!

    • @Ingeniousideas
      @Ingeniousideas  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your comment! Glad it helped :)

  • @Ingeniousideas
    @Ingeniousideas  ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The correct pronunciation is Bombe. Sorry for the mistake. 🤕

    • @KRYPTOS_K5
      @KRYPTOS_K5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No problem, in fact no real mistake. I have transcendental intuition. I feel the touch of the CIA in this video. Don't ask me why.

    • @marksimpson2321
      @marksimpson2321 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@KRYPTOS_K5 no it's AI text-to-speech.

  • @lucas.glopes
    @lucas.glopes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I must say: this series was absolutely amazing! As an Engineer student, I really loved the way everything was explained. Hope the channel come back, the content is one of the best I have ever seen! 👏

  • @bishallamichhane8711
    @bishallamichhane8711 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Best video on this topic. The simulation was great.

    • @Ingeniousideas
      @Ingeniousideas  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Means a lot!

  • @murillogumiero
    @murillogumiero ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazing series of videos! Any chance of you sharing this simulation?

  • @SistemAX-21
    @SistemAX-21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dear Sir, this might sound strange but i take full inspiration from your enigma videos. Watching your presentation, i begin to think what if the stock price is actually "enigma codes" that have hidden clue about where certain stock is going. From there, i form a simple statistics formula to predict X stock movement. I do thank you for your great videos. GBU sir

  • @craigpeterson7953
    @craigpeterson7953 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm confused about the stepping action of your bombe. In the animation, the yellow rotors step anytime the red rotor goes from A->Z. But that isn't necessarily the position the enigma stepped for that configuration and ring setting. So the relative configurations may be off if the second and third rotors are stepped wrong? I remember reading that a crib wouldn't work if there was a turnover in the middle, so would it make more sense to keep the second and third rotors in sync across the bombe, and just rotate the red rotors relative to each other?

    • @kallewirsch2263
      @kallewirsch2263 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In practice, this was a much less problem as it seems.
      If you get a solution wich decrypts the first 12 letters to something which looked like it was valid german but suddenly turns into gibberish at the 13th letter, you know that the used turnover point (the ring position) from ring1 to ring 2 is most likely wrong and needs to be adjusted. Just do it and try again. There are only 26 possible ring positions to check, no big deal for the machine. After all you knew that the setting was correct for the first 12 letters, just the turnover needs adjustment.
      Also: They did not use just 1 single transmission for the cracking, but multiple messages of the day. If 1 crib didn't work, another one from a different transmission might work.
      Also: The turnover from the 2nd ring to the 3rd almost never mattered as most messages were not long enough to have the 3rd ring turn away from its initial position at all.

  • @sahhaf1234
    @sahhaf1234 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish you also do a similar program on lorenz machine and colossus.

  • @roliveira2225
    @roliveira2225 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent!

  • @jesusmoreno5568
    @jesusmoreno5568 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonderful job and very well explained!!! Please, do more videos like these!

    • @Ingeniousideas
      @Ingeniousideas  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Your kind words will motivate me to keep going :)

  • @Theo_El_Gato
    @Theo_El_Gato 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't understand wich cable your supposed to power on the first time and if you need to switch between cable

    • @kallewirsch2263
      @kallewirsch2263 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For each tested rotor position, you try all of the cables in sequence to figure out if one of them does not power all of them.

    • @astrapex2163
      @astrapex2163 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@kallewirsch2263​​⁠i'm sorry if i'm not understanding but wich cable are tested ? Like, does they test cable configuration at each tested rotor position ?

    • @kallewirsch2263
      @kallewirsch2263 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@astrapex2163
      You have watched the video?
      If the configuration is not correct, then powering any cable connecting the rotors powers all of them.
      It is only for the correct configuration, that this will not happen.
      So yes.
      This is how it worked. The individual enigmas were connected according to the "menu" (that is what they called it). The menu was derived from the encrypted message and the (guessed) plain text. The menu would be set up to form a loop: eg. 'E' translates into 'W' in position 5, 'W' translates into 'D' in position 8, 'D' translates into 'E' in position 12. Note how this forms a loop 'E' -> 'W' -> 'D' -> 'E'.
      3 enigmas in the bomba were connected (all letters connected) and the rotor configuration of those 3 enigmas were set up according to the menu (assuming a key of eg 'AAA'). Then the machine was started, after stepping to the next rotor positions (of all 3 enigmas), the number of powered cables were counted. If the count was 1, then the machine stopped. If it was not 1, then all 3 enigmas did 1 step to the next rotor position (testing if AAB could be the key) and the cycle continued.
      The guessed plain text wasn't just a random guess. The british knew that the germans distributed eg. the weather report at specific times. So the knew that the message they received at 07:00 would start with the german word "WETTERBERICHT". There is one reported incidence, when the could not find the key but the knew about a boje in the north sea. So they ordered an attack on that boje knowing that the local station would report this attack to the head quarters. Now they had the encrypted text and they knew that somewhere in this text there would be the name of the boje. Voila: it worked.

  • @sahhaf1234
    @sahhaf1234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best explanation

  • @Timmerdetimmerdetim
    @Timmerdetimmerdetim 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I keep wondering, cracking one crib/menu this way reveals the message key for the encryption. But every message had another key as I understand. So how to get to the daily setting because that would be the actual goal wouldn't it?

    • @Ingeniousideas
      @Ingeniousideas  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They needed a guess/crib every day :) One way was through the weather forecast which had repeatable/predictable words.

    • @Timmerdetimmerdetim
      @Timmerdetimmerdetim 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ingeniousideas Right, so, let me take the weather forecast example then. I presume it had its own message key. Which key was cracked then, the message key or the daily key? See where I'm getting at?
      Thanks for the other reply btw. And let me say the videos where really helpful for my understanding of the topic and I appreciate them imensly.

    • @kallewirsch2263
      @kallewirsch2263 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Timmerdetimmerdetim
      The goal of the bomba was not to crack a specific key. The goal was to find an initial rotor setting, which would decrypt the message.
      The procedure for the sender of the message of how to come up with the enigma settings depending on the tabulated daily key and how to create the message key is not important. Each message began with additional information for the regular receiver on how to reverse that process such that eventually he had the setting with which to decypher the message body.
      For the cracker however this was not important, since they were not interested in the letters of each of the keys used, but in a setting which simply would decypher the message body, no matter in which way the sender reached that setting.

    • @sebastiannielsen
      @sebastiannielsen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Timmerdetimmerdetim Yes, but once you cracked the message key, you had a guranteed crib for the day key. With guranteed, it means you didn't need to make a guess on the crib, you KNEW it was a valid crib.

  • @somethingelse9228
    @somethingelse9228 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what software do you use to create the bombe machine virtually?
    p.s Excellent video!

    • @Ingeniousideas
      @Ingeniousideas  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! 😊 this one is created in Visual Basic.

  • @Timmerdetimmerdetim
    @Timmerdetimmerdetim 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you please explain us the Diagonal Board?

    • @Ingeniousideas
      @Ingeniousideas  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes I will try to add that part in the series.

  • @fekrialsaleh1707
    @fekrialsaleh1707 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    صعب لكن استمر
    هل هذا الجهاز لتشفير الرسائل
    هناك طرق اسهل للتشفير
    لكن فك شفرة جهاز كهذا كان يستلزم حصول الحلفاء على نسخة متطابقة منه
    وربما تمت عن طريق الخيانات .
    متابعك من اليمن

    • @brnmcc01
      @brnmcc01 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That part was easy because the Polish already had some machines. Prior to the start of the war, the enigma machines were sold commerically :) They were just added to and modified for the war, and new internal rotor wiring, but the working principles remained the same.

  • @kevinkane7667
    @kevinkane7667 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really excellent work. I don’t think the pronunciation of bomb matters at all. Some suggestions are that it is “bomb” because the ticking of the device is like a time-bomb or “bomb-err” because the rotating drums look like a French ice cream pudding.

    • @Ingeniousideas
      @Ingeniousideas  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! 🙂 And good info about bombe. Didn't know this.

    • @stuartlomas8557
      @stuartlomas8557 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wasn't it to give recognition to the Polish mathematicans who worked out how the early commercial grade machines worked. They built a simple bombe to decrypt messages from these machines. The germans then increased the complexity of the enigma machines to make them secure enough for military use.

  • @JackRussell021
    @JackRussell021 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you release the source code that you used for this?

  • @LAM-MARVEL
    @LAM-MARVEL ปีที่แล้ว

    rumah editor bring me to here

  • @oneoflast7757
    @oneoflast7757 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a super cool video, so you think it would be possible to use relay computation to do this?

    • @Ingeniousideas
      @Ingeniousideas  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment! I’m not really familiar with relay computation. Can’t say :)

    • @brnmcc01
      @brnmcc01 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's a Colossus

  • @charlesharrison4077
    @charlesharrison4077 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are we really going to have to listen to it pronounced as bom-bay every time… going to be a long 11 min.

  • @manojsingh911
    @manojsingh911 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bhai yeh ai voice kyu lga rakhi gaiw hai