Turing's Enigma Problem (Part 1) - Computerphile

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  • The Enigma cipher machine, said to be unbreakable. Alan Turing had a pivotal role in cracking Enigma codes during WWII. Professor Brailsford takes us through just what Turing and his team were up against.
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    Professor Brailsford's notes: bit.ly/enigmapart2
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    This video was filmed and edited by Sean Riley.
    Computer Science at the University of Nottingham: bit.ly/nottscomputer
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  • @octopus9001
    @octopus9001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    We can all agree this dude would be the best grandpa. So many interesting stories.

    • @ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI
      @ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are correct, He is my grandpa & he does have many interesting stories.

    • @josephgaviota
      @josephgaviota 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI If he's your grandpa, CONGRATS to you. Seriously, I am jealous to hear his stories.

  • @Snartifartblast
    @Snartifartblast ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The military Enigma rotors had different internal wiring to the commercial version rotors. It was the miltary rotor wirings that Marian Rejewski was able to work out purely by applying mathematics, using permutation theory, from just having a body of enciphered messages available to him and code book settings for September and October 1932. It took him just a couple of weeks to do this.

    • @raidoung4100
      @raidoung4100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Polskaaaaa, pozdrawiam wszystkich polaków oglądających ten film lub też czytających sekcję z komentarzamiii :D:D:D Polska mistrzem Polskiiiiii !!!!!@

  • @ICoulntThinkofAUserNam547
    @ICoulntThinkofAUserNam547 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I want him to read a book to me... that voice is amazingly soothing

  • @malcolmpyper8772
    @malcolmpyper8772 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At last, a explanation that makes ring-settings clear. The various books are very ambiguous on this. This is the best explanation of the mechanism of Enigma I have seen

  • @chrisharrison763
    @chrisharrison763 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great to see David Brailsford back on the channel.

  • @Petertronic
    @Petertronic 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely fascinating stuff, I could listen to this all day - I can't wait for a further installment!

  • @nickgawne
    @nickgawne 9 ปีที่แล้ว +627

    I could let this guy tell me a bedtime story.

    • @salerio61
      @salerio61 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Me neither, I'd never get to sleep waiting for the next bit

    • @princetonburchill6130
      @princetonburchill6130 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@banama1758 Thanks for lowering the tone.

    • @Swedish_John_Wick
      @Swedish_John_Wick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@banama1758 hahaha ha ha

    • @noahwilliams8996
      @noahwilliams8996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't that what he's doing?

    • @livingadreamlife1428
      @livingadreamlife1428 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once upon a time, in a land far away...

  • @MatthiasDuyck
    @MatthiasDuyck 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the video I wanted to see from you guys from a loooong long time... love this!

  • @sator666666
    @sator666666 8 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    Three Polish matematicians: Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Różycki and Henryk Zygalski cracked the Enigma in the first place using the cryptologic bomb.

    • @gh8447
      @gh8447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      True, but it was an earlier version, as I understand it.

    • @Gottenhimfella
      @Gottenhimfella 5 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      @@gh8447 The Poles cracked it, the Brits scaled up, and sped up, their process up to an industrial throughput.
      But the Polish breakthrough was indispensable and inspirational and deeply non-obvious.

    • @energyzone242
      @energyzone242 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      THE ENGLISH LIKE ALL THE CREDIT - JUST LIKE MONTGOMERY WAS THE GREATEST FELDHERR OF ALL TIME AND HOW SUCCESSFUL OPERATION " MARKET GARDEN WAS " AFTER THE LANDING IN 1944 ( IT WAS MONTY'S BRAIN CHILD )

    • @marekf7605
      @marekf7605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Enigma code must have been cracked by Brits. Otherwise Poles made single most valuable contribution to war effort and they were left for idiots from east to run their country for 50 years - that's not acceptable. If you think this was early version of the enigma, so it was easy then think again, till the end of the war natzi were convinced that their code is unbreakable because mathematically it was impossible. Mathematics way how to do it was found by Polish mathematicians. Just before the war English officials were given working example of commerce version of enigma crypting machine.

    • @catlee8064
      @catlee8064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      The poles cracked the civilian version used for banking transactions. The military version was ALOT more complex

  • @terrysky83
    @terrysky83 8 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    This is brilliant and massively interesting. Thank you for this fantastic video.

  • @stapler942
    @stapler942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I don't know if this was of much help for deciphering, but since Enigma lacks umlauts you could probably expect a lot of the combinations "AE" "OE", "UE", in places where you'd expect to find vowels.

  • @msmart111
    @msmart111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great repertoire. Love your simplistic account of all issues. Thank you.

  • @Bendc1970A1
    @Bendc1970A1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Alan will never get enough recognition for his role in history. Highly recommend watching "The Imitation Game"

  • @WerewolfEnjoyer
    @WerewolfEnjoyer 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I love TH-cam precisely because it gives me content like this. Thanks for the video!

  • @pacinpm2
    @pacinpm2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    Thank you for mentioning Polish matematicians.

    • @Dziomolek
      @Dziomolek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      yup, brits allways were trying to hide this information and took all the credit

    • @charlien759
      @charlien759 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Lol, not true at all. Go to Bletchley park, there is a memorial deicated to the Polish mathemeticians! Of course making a movie about such events has greater effect when you can attribute everything to one man but I believe that most people recognise the heroics of the Polish mathematicians as well.

    • @filipdurczewski1326
      @filipdurczewski1326 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      respektek O yeah.. For how long the memorial has been there?

    • @jsmithmultimediatech
      @jsmithmultimediatech 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Afterall there's a reason for calling it a 'World' War lol, combined effort :)

    • @beachbum4691
      @beachbum4691 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@Dziomolek Nope/ wrong - Its' never been any sort of secret that everything is based on Polish work and I've followed it for ? 40-50 years but deciphering needed the Bomb.

  • @evanlee6546
    @evanlee6546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The clearest explanation I've seen - especially that part about the ring settings vs. the rotor settings which is not explained elsewhere. Thanks!

    • @-danR
      @-danR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's as muddy an explanation as possible.

  • @jlarosee
    @jlarosee 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hugely entertaining! Can't wait for the next EP!

  • @robgandy4550
    @robgandy4550 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen that movie (As I expect many have); But the way you have described it, makes it obvious now, why Turing proposed the computer. This looks/sounds like a perfect problem for a computer. Many factorials, and simple bit/binary math. Nicely done. |Thanks.

  • @pg1282
    @pg1282 9 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    It would be very interesting to see some explanation of how the cryptoanalytic process of deciphering such a contraption looked like in a bit more detail. Did the people at Bletchley Park use some specific mathematical approach helping understand the code ? Did any other electrical tools were used ? Can't wait for the next video!

    • @herbieklein2271
      @herbieklein2271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Simon Singh wrote a book where he along other things explained how the enigma worked, the polish intelligence did the dirty work in first place to then hand it over to the British when they ran out of time. If the polish had the resources they would've cracked it earlier.
      But anyway the book provides many graphical explanation to understand the matter. I recommend reading the youth edited version caused there are just more explanations :D

  • @njreiswig
    @njreiswig 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the coolest video you guys have done in a while I'm really looking forward to the next one!

  • @guitarslim56
    @guitarslim56 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Damn, this guy is an excellent teacher. He can explain anything. I understand everything that he's saying.

  • @gyrogearloose1345
    @gyrogearloose1345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trotz des cleveren Designs der Deutschen haben die polnischen und britischen Mathematiker herausgefunden, wie sie den Enigma-Code brechen können.
    Danke, Professor und Team, für diese hervorragende Einführung!
    (Danke auch an Google und TH-cam)

  • @kujmous
    @kujmous 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made a vb module for ASCII encryption. It can be "set" with any number of one-to-one character mapping arrays (tumblers), but it goes a step further with additional settings to programmatically determine which tumblers to use based on an ASCII sum of the character being encrypted along with its previous character which is already encrypted. Also, the process can be coded to happen any number of times for completely sloppy results. It remains the code of which I am most proud.
    The process of making a device as complex as Enigma boggles my mind, though.

  • @f4z0
    @f4z0 8 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    aaaand above all of that they were speaking german. That is harsh.

    • @Anastas1786
      @Anastas1786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      The Enigma Machine: From the people who brought you the word "Rechtsschutzversicherungsgesellschaften"!

  • @kpharck
    @kpharck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Why mentioning Simon Singh only as the owner of Enigma machine, but not the author of "The Code Book", the best introduction to cryptography ever written, and - what's important - very well researched, unlike some error-laden movies ? Singh's account of Enigma history and techniques is both complete and simple to comprehend.

  • @TheFakeVIP
    @TheFakeVIP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've watched this entire series 3 times now but I still find it really interesting.

  • @Nichomachean5
    @Nichomachean5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know, I don't understand half the stuff this guy talks about, but his voice is so engaging.

  • @DrSpooglemon
    @DrSpooglemon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING!!!

    • @-danR
      @-danR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The collar?

  • @morganspencer-churchill2136
    @morganspencer-churchill2136 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great teacher, great energy, great voice!

  • @neilmacleod5371
    @neilmacleod5371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Is there any imformation about the guy or gal that invented enigma ?? Seems that person must have been years ahead of their time

    • @izzyr9590
      @izzyr9590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeh that guy must be crazy

    • @tommothedog
      @tommothedog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Cyphers are far, far easier to make than they are to break.

    • @volfgankamei5348
      @volfgankamei5348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tommothedog it's also far easier to crack when you have the information about the settings of the machine.

  • @ximbabwe0228
    @ximbabwe0228 8 ปีที่แล้ว +820

    I want to fix his collar

    • @infinitecheats2408
      @infinitecheats2408 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +ximbabwe0228 lol

    • @Itheb
      @Itheb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      i can't watch it :( :'(

    • @OghamTheBold
      @OghamTheBold 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      *O.C.D* (Obvious : Collar DISLODGEMENT!!) : and - *P.T.S.D* (Protruding _Turned-back-cuffs_ _of_ Shirt DIFFER !! ) *_R > G_*

    • @CelticSaint
      @CelticSaint 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Leave it be, and listen.

    • @tmckenmd2506
      @tmckenmd2506 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is a preppie!

  • @AyushPandit
    @AyushPandit 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video! I did a school project on Bletchley Park!

  • @urbanfps9080
    @urbanfps9080 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Second part please! Im loving this

  • @junkiecosmonaut5050
    @junkiecosmonaut5050 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video professor, thanks for uploading! :)

  • @codyking4848
    @codyking4848 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Welp, my brain is jello. It's amazing that Bletchley Park ever figured this out. Truly speaks volumes to the intelligence of the folks that broke Enigma.

  • @michaelhawthorne8696
    @michaelhawthorne8696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For those who are interested:
    Factorial (!) of 4 for example is 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 24 so 4 items of any kind can be arranged in 24 different combinations. Most calculators can only calculate 69! modern ones can go a bit further by having 3 digits in the exponent.

    • @philipp7156
      @philipp7156 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My tablet calculator app just managed to get me an approximate result for 205000! 1.68924757542880496668254080814683170840294519*10^999882 in less than a second.

  • @wildweebear2684
    @wildweebear2684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Truly magnificent fellow that Professor Alan Turing.

  • @myssmeow001
    @myssmeow001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    looked at some photos of the paperwork that accompanied these machine, almost looked like a predecessor to ASM. Hearing it had a vuln though, useful. Suppose thats like an system built by people though..... perfect way to begin the morning.

  • @Potomacstud
    @Potomacstud 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    He is making my head spin , I am seeing stars in the middle of the afternoon

  • @xanokothe
    @xanokothe 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks Professor!

  • @techaddiction3999
    @techaddiction3999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing explanation sir.

  • @epistemologicaldespair68
    @epistemologicaldespair68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally, this isn’t Turings work that I find most fascinating, his paper “The chemical basis of Morphogenesis” is truly original and brilliant.

  • @ricardodavidson3813
    @ricardodavidson3813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm unclear on two points: 1 - The alphabet ring on the rotors could be set to any one of 26 positions but did not interfere with the wiring, this was fixed inside the rotor. This was an offset was provided although no alterations were made to the wiring. 2 - I was led to understand in the past that the commercial Enigma's 3 rotors had different wiring from the military version, even with only 3 rotors. This was one of the breakthroughs Hans-Thilo Schmidt's information gave to the Poles, who had access to the commercial Enigma.

  • @Laenthor
    @Laenthor 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I also love the raspberry pi teddy bear on the desk, so cute and iconic!

  • @simonjrobinson
    @simonjrobinson 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad that someone's finally addressed the rings on the rotors. So many books, documentaries, and TH-camrs seem to shy away from them.
    I'm still a little bit confused though.
    Does changing the ring position on a rotor effectively, and rather crudely, create a "new" rotor (i.e. one that has different wiring)?

    • @MrCreeperX
      @MrCreeperX 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      In a way, yes it does "create a new rotor"

    • @dellitsni6466
      @dellitsni6466 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, the way the wires are laid out remain the same. Changing the ring positions simply changed each wire's start position and end positions, but not the individual wire's position. Changing the ring by +1 would then turn A into B, B into C, C into D and so on. A wire could not be changed individually, independent of the other wires.
      You could say that changing the ring position encrypted the rotor with a caesar (shift) cipher.

    • @GentlemenAtPlay
      @GentlemenAtPlay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dellitsni6466 No, that's not true, and it is explained incorrectly in the video itself. The wiring or the connection of the contacts in the rotors are absolutely fixed. There are no moveable parts whatsoever that could change anything of that. The ring just moves itself - and since it contains the little recess that causes the next rotor to move, as well, setting the ring to a different position changes the point, when the rotor kicks the next one. That's it, what the ring does. It definitely does *not* change anything about the wiring or the way the contacts are connected with each other. They are hardwired, not moveable parts.

  • @DailyShit.
    @DailyShit. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It so interesting how all the "security measures" the germans had actually made enigma easier to crack.
    By adding rules (like dont put the same wheels in the same spot two days in a row, the wheels spin at different points and other i don't remember) they gave cryptographers outside constraints. If they had not done it then there would be no apparent system or logic. But the settings list had rules and the wheels were different.

  • @bicivelo
    @bicivelo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these videos!

  • @OghamTheBold
    @OghamTheBold 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    *C.S.E* (Casual : Snooper's Enigma) : I admire - the woodwork *_R > G_*

  • @Guesswhokk
    @Guesswhokk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The enigma machine has already been broken (in early 1930) before the war even started.
    So who played a major role Alan Turing OR Marian Rejewski OR Tommy Flowers?
    Rejewski use mathematics to show what makes the Enigma ticked and demonstrated some of the ways to decipher it and Turing mechanised it while Flowers digitised it (well using punch tapes).

    • @SuperZombiekillar
      @SuperZombiekillar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All. Also, it was never "broken", you're entirely wrong with that. Except Turing played a major role and is likely not replaceable like the others mentioned.

    • @quantumbits
      @quantumbits 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There were versions of the enigma. The Polish broke the 3 wheel version. Germany then redesigned the thumb wheels (not even aware of Polish break) and two more scrambling thumb wheels were added in series.

    • @Guesswhokk
      @Guesswhokk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      There was even a plaque in Bletchley park honouring the 3 main Polish mathematician / cryptologist.
      Which is why Turing's machine called the' Bombe' as it originated from Marian design.
      But the Polish teams where mostly under resourced and against the clock, while the Germans upgraded to 4th wheel before the Polish invasion.
      Some of the Polish cipher teams died smuggling out of the country, 1 died by drowning and 2 where captured and sent to concentration camps.
      Never Forget their contribution.

  • @JakeDavidHarrison
    @JakeDavidHarrison 9 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    You could have mentioned his collar to him at some point.

    • @alexo360
      @alexo360 9 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Did not notice until i read this comment

    • @MrGoatflakes
      @MrGoatflakes 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jake Harrison word

    • @mailperson
      @mailperson 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Jake Harrison That was a British style at the time they made this.

    • @nomtijorti
      @nomtijorti 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      shows you're not paying attention if you have the time to look at his collar

    • @RockHudrock
      @RockHudrock 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jake Harrison His collar is simply sprezzatura!

  • @professorhamamoto
    @professorhamamoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done. Would like to know the specifics of the battery as power source. Also, the lighting mechanism for the buttons in the days before LEDs.

    • @MalcolmCooks
      @MalcolmCooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      incandescent bulbs, no?

  • @michelesalvemini6345
    @michelesalvemini6345 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amazing, I am loving it!

  • @James_Bowie
    @James_Bowie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The Polish Cipher Bureau doesn't get nearly enough credit for its early work on Enigma.

  • @pondererofpointlessdreams5029
    @pondererofpointlessdreams5029 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    idk why but hearing his story makes me both heartbroken and happy

  • @brodysdaddy
    @brodysdaddy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    James Grime explains this much better. Very clear understanding of the machine after watching the numberphile video.

  • @brentsaunders2600
    @brentsaunders2600 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the number 12 is significant to Turing's implementation of the Enigma problem? Is there a mathematical principle which explains why he needed 12 machines and not 10? Thanks for any suggestions.

  • @anthonyj777
    @anthonyj777 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    David Attenborough bit at the end :)
    Loved it, great video.

  • @MorningStarChrist
    @MorningStarChrist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    12:09 Some modems use the same concept to enable wires to connect without having a "plug"

  • @Alex000113
    @Alex000113 ปีที่แล้ว

    Left handed computer scientist using line printer paper, classic ! Thanks for the introduction.

  • @GentlemenAtPlay
    @GentlemenAtPlay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There's one thing that doesn't seem correct: The Ringstellung (positioning of the ring) does *not* change the wiring of the contacts. It did *not* make an 'offset' there or alike.
    There was *no way* to change the wiring or which contact connects with what other contact, at all. This was just impossible, because they were fixed parts that could *not* move or rotate in any way.
    So, what did the changing of the Stellring actually do then? It changed the point, were this special rotor caused the rotor next to it, to move a step, as well. The Stellring is the only part of the rotor that could be rotated - all other parts are fixed. And only the Stellring itself moved (no contacts, wirings, whatsoever). But the Stellring had a little recess on it. (In the case of some rotors, it had two, as you mentioned.) So, if you moved the Stellring and fixed it in a different spot, you could determine, when exactly the rotor next to the first one would move, as well.
    Say, you start with the rotor in position "A" (shown in the little window), and it's Stellring is set to position "B", then this rotor would move ONE step alone, but when it moves again, it would cause the rotor next to it, to move, as well. And, if you changed the Ringstellung to position "E" (but again begin with the rotor in position "A"), the first rotor would move FIVE times alone, before it would cause the next rotor to move, as well. That's what the Ringstellung does.

    • @rogerdodger8415
      @rogerdodger8415 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was a door at the front of the machine that allowed for rewiring, by switching plugs.

  • @JulianOnions
    @JulianOnions 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bletchley park is well worth a visit to see a running Bombe!

  • @JCSolo
    @JCSolo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    this guy is amazing at explaining

    • @dannydk6
      @dannydk6 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jessica C. Solomon I wish he was my professor!

  • @youareanatural
    @youareanatural 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done!

  • @michaelbull9428
    @michaelbull9428 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both "The imitation game" and the movie " enigma" weren't actually filmed at bletchley Park. I live 6miles away from it and my grandfather was stationed there during the war

  • @bernhardriemann1563
    @bernhardriemann1563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is so cool to see how some engineers invented and evolved an encryption-machine on the one side. Meanwhile their enemys found the weak point with very smart ideas.

  • @nazgullinux6601
    @nazgullinux6601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The good professor should have been a computer historian. The guy has a way of putting computing history in a dichotomy of the atmosphere of J.R.R. Tolkien. Guy is bloody brilliant.

  • @Seegalgalguntijak
    @Seegalgalguntijak 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So what role did the first British computer by the name of Colossus, and the first American computer by the name of ENIAC play in breaking the Enigma codes? I've watched the Numberphile videos on the Enigma, but these machines weren't mentioned at all, while here in Germany it's always written and told that the Enigma code breaking was done by using these computers?

    • @jakewisher4623
      @jakewisher4623 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And eniac I believe was used for ballistic calculations...

    • @TheDiggster13
      @TheDiggster13 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Colossus was used to increase the speed with which Lorenz ciphers were broken.

  • @ericsumma7654
    @ericsumma7654 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still had trouble seeing how the message was recreated, until I realized (I think) that the character map "pairs" letters. If E was mapped to Y, then Y maps to E. Without this the plain text wouldn't be recoverable if Y had mapped to some other character.
    It's not so much random mapping as random pairing, many times.

  • @firstnamelastname8684
    @firstnamelastname8684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i keep hearing voices in my head repeating everything i read but i have no idea who it could possibly belong to

  • @localbod
    @localbod 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surely it would be possible in theory for the Enigma machine to encode to the same output letter or is that simply unfeasible?

  • @michaelschaller3637
    @michaelschaller3637 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another video about the evolution of ciphers after Enigma would be interesting.

    • @brian_8053
      @brian_8053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enigma now tuning into complex computer encryption .. with billions posibilities.. if you learn computer encryption now, enigma is your third meeting..

  • @glialcell6455
    @glialcell6455 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vid, but why would you do the multiplying by 6 and stuff? Surely you could just do 8!/(8-5)! which is a lot simpler...

  • @diba4645
    @diba4645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    did the ring setting add a Caesars code per rotor?

  • @philippenachtergal6077
    @philippenachtergal6077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    14:40 Yes. Adding complexity from a superficial perspective (let's make to wheels engage the next ones at different points) doesn't necessarily add up to the mathematical or reverse engineering complexity, quite the opposite sometimes.

  • @TanjoGalbi
    @TanjoGalbi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The odometer was not driven by the car's engine like you stated. If it was it would be continuously moving while the engine was running whether or not the car was moving. It was driven by a wheel of the car.

    • @patbutete1722
      @patbutete1722 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What drives the wheel of the car then?

    • @TanjoGalbi
      @TanjoGalbi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@patbutete1722 Man I wish I was chatting with you live to ask you if you really do not know what the purpose of the odometer is. I am by no means a car expert myself having never learned to drive myself but even I know its purpose in the car! And knowing that purpose it makes no sense whatsoever for it to be turned by the engine.
      As I can not ask you live I will assume you do not know. The odometer measures the distance the car has travelled in its lifetime. As I stated in my OP, if you run it from the engine then the odometer will still turn while the engine is running but the car is in neutral, not exactly the best way to measure the distance a car has travelled if it's value is rising while the car is not moving!
      Yes, the engine turns the wheels as you are eluding, BUT it it not required to turn the wheels! For example you can have the car facing down a long hill with the engine off. Release the brakes and let the car roll. Now gravity is turning the wheels, the car is travelling and the odometer needs to measure the distance. How can it do that if its turned by the engine? It can't! Yet it will still turn because it's turned by the wheels!

  • @furbyfubar
    @furbyfubar 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 10:58 he says choose 3 from 8 and arrange them in any order is 336. And 8*7*6 = 336, but that's just the picking of the wheels, with the 6 ways to arrange them you'd get 2016 possibilities.

    • @temuandrew
      @temuandrew 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      nope! 336 is correct. number of ways to choose 3 from 8 is 8C6 = 56 then multiplied by 6 which gives 336

    • @furbyfubar
      @furbyfubar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@temuandrew Duh, I had a brain fart there apparently. 8*7*6 of course also gives an order for the wheels already.

  • @Scribblersys
    @Scribblersys 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heer's a qwestion: Coold intenshunal typos maek an endoced massage harderer to brake?

  • @drjwilber
    @drjwilber 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    met simon singh at Imperial - related oe of the "errors" of the germans - in front of witnesses - also from the audience

  • @LordDragonZord
    @LordDragonZord 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Computerphile exists? Is this the -phile series ?

  • @theears995
    @theears995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy birthday, Turing!
    (He’d be 109 years old today, June 23, 2021)

  • @fredkruse9444
    @fredkruse9444 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enigma was not "ultra, ultra safe." Now there's some inside humor for you! 1:45

  • @tomr6955
    @tomr6955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:48 "Not Ultra safe".
    Indeed.

  • @danr5105
    @danr5105 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if a personal computer (with software) would have been helpful?

  • @siprus
    @siprus 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want more videos on algorithms!!!

  • @Twigleaf
    @Twigleaf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ~ 8:30 5! over 3! is 10 ? or 20? 5! / 2! I'm rusty on maths, but am I wrong? or does he mean [ 5! / (3!)(2!) ] where 2! represents the 2 unused rotors.... I would assume its already used in determining 3! .

  • @TheAlpineProject
    @TheAlpineProject 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not really important here, but a mechanical speedometer/odometer is typically driven from the end of the transmission on a vehicle, sized (and usually color-coded) for the gearing that comes after it, in the axle itself. The diameter of your tires is also a part of the gearing, but you simply suffer a slightly erroneous speedometer/odometer reading if changing tire sizes from OEM. A steel cable with a spring made to rotate runs from the rotors in your dash to the gear attached to the tailshaft of a transmission in a typical rear-wheel drive vehicle.
    On a motorcycle the principle is much the same, but with the input usually coming from the front wheel.
    The reason it wouldn't work directly on the engine is because of the transmission and axle gears changing the ratio all the time. Engine revolutions per minute (RPM) rarely actually equals wheel RPM, let alone accounts for the distance in a mile.

  • @cierrafasken7849
    @cierrafasken7849 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating

  • @LucidEnigma21
    @LucidEnigma21 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing! :]

  • @notdaveschannel9843
    @notdaveschannel9843 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I get hold of the document at 7:34? It's not in the links.

  • @rubencid2575
    @rubencid2575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Polish army was the first to decypher enigma but it was quickly changed. The British army was able to do it because the Luftwaffe was very unprofessional in the use of the machine and they didn't take precautions.

  • @-danR
    @-danR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    10:27 I feel Doenitz' face was too small for his head.

  • @matthewgrissop9408
    @matthewgrissop9408 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1,26th, A B C. B CD. CDE, example RZURZU, why 2 times, to be absolutely sure it was right

  • @edwardtait4285
    @edwardtait4285 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRAVO!

  • @Daniel-ex6kp
    @Daniel-ex6kp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn't one put a voltage monitor on the wires and track which ones are transmitting when which buttons are pressed?

  • @woodywoodlstein9519
    @woodywoodlstein9519 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that sweater. Love dave.

  • @shruggzdastr8-facedclown
    @shruggzdastr8-facedclown 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the name of the similar mechanism that the Japanese used during the war?

  • @Swedish_John_Wick
    @Swedish_John_Wick 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The odometer was driven thru a wire from the gearbox not the engine :)

  • @jeffreyike841
    @jeffreyike841 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy gets it. Explanation......done

  • @lornemarysh9351
    @lornemarysh9351 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got it for first message.
    Did they set it for every message

  • @alexstevensen4292
    @alexstevensen4292 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:31 wow that car goes fast jeezus how fast is that thing going mach 11?