10 Things I Noticed about the Lumix G9ii
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- From overheating to autofocus, today Im going over my initial honest throughts on the G9ii after purchasing one. I love Lumix so lets see what their latest Micro Four Thirds offering can do.
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Congratulations on getting the G9 II. It is the one camera I lust after. I have a savings acount for it, but sadly savings are slow because I have a big car expense I have to save for first. Life gets in the road of art too often. I will have to wait a couple of years to get my G9 II.
I appreciate the review. I’m a GH6 guy who wants a more photo centric hybrid camera, and your review is helpful!
I’m glad it helped! They make good pair I have to say in many ways and I’ll certainly be keeping both’
Great and honest review. Good that you pointed the weight factor.
I was really surprised when I picked it up and felt how white it was, and even more surprised that no one else seemed to mention it! Thanks for stopping by!
Nice video. I appreciate the bits of comic relief 😄
Haha I try not to take things too seriously irl so why do it on my channel? It’s all for fun anyways
Love the video! Fun to watch and interesting. I still haven’t gotten my hands on a G9ii. Love the dr boost implementation. For me it would be my gimbal and studio/yt camera
You would enjoy it, but for Video I still mostly prefer the GH six when quality is concerned. Plus the DJI unit you have been testing is probably almost as convenient for a lot of things. It is a very capable camera despite some of the limitations.
I really like my G9II. I mostly use 4k 24p for short films so I don't plan on recording for long periods of time. Also set the heat management to high.
Great stuff, Rhett! Glad you're digging it man. Did you put the heat threshold to high? The G9II is a beast, glad you're digging it so far. :)
If it wasn’t then it is now! I just think those additional accessories like power delivery and monitors really build up the heat
Dude great video! As awesome as this is...I'm pretty happy with my GH6. If it wasn't the overheating issue as I live in Florida and that is a very real issue here. I'd consider selling both my E-M1.2 and GH6 for it but honestly the GH6 is such a dream to use.
The body design and the front record button and the fan are incredibly important on the GH6 even if the G9ii a few extra little tricks
Yes!!!! I made it
I'm really living mine coming from the gh5. It's been the perfect camera except for overheating. I shoot a lot of interviews, and it tends to overheat when shooting at 4k60 after about an hour BUT it doesn't do it if I swap out the battery for a dummy and power it by wall power. I'm looking into grabbing a cage and npf to barrel jack power set up, but in the meantime its AC when I'm locked down. Otherwise, it's my new favorite camera
I live in Phoenix, AZ. and as much as I would love to have this new camera. I'm just going to have to wait for the gh7
Good decision 😉
Great roundup Rhett , Thanks for being honest about the Look of the GH6 having the edge colour wise and handling , , yep i am waiting for and hoping for a GH7s , to be a lower light version of GH6 with PDAF a 13.5 megapixel stabilized sensor and a built in real N D F , that works for video to , unlike the OM1 MK 1 OR 2 , so it would really be a low light stabilized king of MFT video lol , well one can dream , and if not Sticking with gh5 and G9 as am fine with what i have really as i never have to do weddings . so cheers Rhett ,👍👍👍👍🤠
I wonder if it’ll be possible to have a dual gain and dual output in one sensor! Imagine if the GH6 could pull of the low light of the GH5s and DR boost of the G9ii. I guess we can dream.
@@RhettThompsonFilm Very nice idear , yes it seems that Panasonic are very capable of it and being as they are making the easier S9 for the wider audience they may be able to afford to keep niche products like you suggested appearing hopefully . cheers 🤔👍 thanks for the feedback .
I hope that Panasonic didn't forget you for any upcoming cameras, as I'm looking forward to your take.
If they call, I will answer! Otherwise I’ll just keep reviewing lenses and working on my GH6 long-term video lol
i still miss the original G9 body. that looked pretty sleek for a lumix camera. i wonder why they couldn't reuse it for the G9ii/S5ii?
Not sure. I never used it so I don’t know what I’m missing but I’ve always said this feels more like a GH5 body than a G9 in a lot of ways
Beautifully explained, thank you. Where is a GH5 then if we compare?
Where is the GH5 in terms of what? What do you mean just in general?
As opposed as many think, the GH5 has still the best overall details in video. The "6K" Open gate has the best organic look I have seen on m43. Each time I compare my GH5 to my G9II in Open Gate, I think something is not right on the G9II, like if big sharpening is added to mask the loss of details due to the digital moiré filter Panasonic use on this camera.
You can use 4K 120fps on the G9II as opposed to the 60fps max of the GH5, but again the GH5 has the edge for details quality, the G9II lacks some details of the GH5 and looks rough.
Note than if you don't crop, I don't think you will see the difference and it is not that bad, I found the S5II worse than the G9II about details rendering, at least in good light.
On the G9II you also have 5,7K 30 and 60fps, on the GH5 you are limited to 6K open Gate or 6K photo 3:2/4:3 30 fps. But you can still crop inside the 6k files of the GH5 to get better resolution than 4K. Also the 4K of the GH5 is so good about details than it looks as good as the 5,7K of the G9II.
But don't take me wrong, the G9II has much better AF in video, sometimes not as accurate than the GH5 with old lenses like the 45-175mm (the point of focus is sometimes not 100% accurate, you can see it when cropping), but overall much faster.
The IBIS is also slightly better on the G9II, and of course much better when using the EIS crop mode.
But the G9II has not only better AF and IBIS, it has a lot of features like Real time LUT, handheld high resolution (you can take one 100MP picture every 13 seconds), you can charge your camera on USB, you can use 4:2:2 even in 60fps, the G9II is also lighter, the DR is much better in video when using V-log, it has less noise in both photo and video, and the most important the colors are I think much better than the GH5, I really need to work hard on the GH5 to get the same colors in video.
I would have loved to have a G9II with the same video engine than the GH5, but for now I keep both, and I hope the GH7 will have the same organic (but still full of details) look than the GH5 Open gate, but with the AF and colors of the G9II.
@@slows728 You're awesome, thank you. I'm in love with my GH5 but was afraid it didn't aged well. Thank you again.
@@RhettThompsonFilm Well the explanation I got is pretty much what I was seeking for.
I have a question about phase detect auto focus on G9ii for shooting videos at 4K120fps. I'm curious to see how much better AF with phase detect at 120fps video when compared to GH6 at 4K 120fps using DFD. Thanks in advance.
gutted to lose you to the niner crew but you held on longer than most, good to hear you haven't binned the GH6 though.
Never! GH6 is still my go to camera for narrative and creative stuff and I consider it to have the best image of all my cameras.
Great video! I appreciate the review. The one thing that "kind of bugs me" is that the top dials are easily moved when you accidentally hit it. All of a sudden, I'm shooting in an odd shutter angle! Ha Ha....Also, Quick question when you filmed the wedding and it began to overheat, were you filming continuously and for how long? I'm about to film a wedding with both the GH6 and the G9II and plan to rig with just a monitor and audio. Thanks!
It’s strange. I never really hit that button on the GH6 but it has happened a few times on the G9ii.
Filming on and off, but not continuously. But regularly grabbing 4K clips. I truly think that the G9ii should not be used with any accessories if you can help it. I think it’s the monitor that pushed it over the edge because after I took the monitor off, it didn’t have any other problems but maybe it was my particular monitor or something else.
@@RhettThompsonFilm Thanks for the reply and info. Good to know!
@@scottmorgason yeah for whatever reason that stuff really seems to build up the heat and the camera will even tell you this if it overheats, but if you can just use the camera and the lens straight out of the box, the heat isn’t going to build up nearly as fast I never had another overheating experience after I ditched the monitor
Have you tested G9II with 35-100 2.8 ? I bought G9II with Leica DG 35-100mm f2.8 and found video stabilisation to be not very good, with noticabe jitter around 100mm when shooting handlend
The Version I and II have the same issue. Panasonic never corrected the problem even when making new versions of the lens.
I have heard some complaints about the G9II skin tones. What has been your experience?
Been good so far! Not as nice as my GH6 but pretty close!
I got my G9M2 on April 1 (no fooling). As expected, it's more evolutionary than revolutionary and neither it, nor any other camera, is going to make a significant difference in your ability to make great photos. That will always be on the user. That said, it does slightly extend your ability to get acceptable photos in marginal conditions. It's lost a few things compared to the original G9, such as that great grip (especially with the battery grip), a slightly higher-mag EVF (0.83 v 0.8x--why didn't they increase the res to at least to 5.76?!), and things like post-focus/in-camera focus stacking (more reliable than in post).
I've never had a problem with DFD (note--I'm not video-centric) and I'm still trying to "optimize" the new hybrid system, but it seems to be a bit better most of the time. Low-light performance has improved a bit as well (I shoot auto-ISO and have set no limits), although I'd have stuck with 20MP (even that's overkill) to further extend that capability. On paper, 100MP hand-held sounds impressive, but I don't think I've ever printed an 80MP image from the G9I, so nice to have, but not essential. I was shocked that the RAWs (and JPGs) are 2x the size of those from the G9I, given the modest MP increase, but they do look great.
Bottom line: The G9M2's a great camera (although i'm eagerly awaiting the M3), and I'd recommend it if it fits your budget. If not, the G9 I's now an even greater bargain (especially used--mine's over six years old and still works great).
Contrast based auto focus is used in basically every single camera from every single manufacturer. It is still to this day, the quickest and most accurate single AF mode which is why everybody reverts back to it when not using continuous auto focus.
Phase detect does have some utility when it comes to quickly acquiring a subject and consistently focusing on it, but it is not nearly as accurate in other situations.
I never use the original and I understand it’s very different but man that Camera is a crazy good value these days which is why I included it in one of my previous videos about really good value budget Panasonic cameras.
The high resolution modes are incredibly fun to me and actually do have some utility occasionally but mostly are just for fun .
Have you had a chance to check out the OM1ii? I know that’s not a video focused camera. It now does it compare?
There may be info coming about that camera soon…stay posted!
"Fun fact" - the G9 also doesn't have Live View Composite. The G90, which came after the G9 was the first one to have it I believe. One of the reasons I bought the G90 before the G9. Speaking of stills features... "some people really care about that sort of thing" ( 9:05 ) - I feel like some weirdo now, haha.
By the way, are you going to the Global Summit?
Buy some people I mean a lot of people, including myself ha ha, I really like the still image quality from this camera. I think I might like the video better from the GH6 but the RAW photos and JPEG’s look really nice.
As far as the global summit, I don’t know what that is really to be honest and if it’s something you can be invited to I haven’t been.
Soed it have the same low light performance and the same dynamic rangre as the GH6 ?
Thanks :)
I go over it briefly here but I believe it is SLIGHTLY worse but it’s very small
The dynamic range is basically always on below 60 frames and with iso higher than 500? There is differences between iso for v log an other color profiles? Thank you!
500 in vlog up to 60 and then it drops to 250 in anything higher and DRBOOST automatically is enabled or disabled.
@@RhettThompsonFilm And do you know the base iso for other colors profiles?
@@arturakhmetov3764 the same as the GH6. 100iso
was the heat warning set to high?
Of course!
What about your GH6...did you sold it?
Never! She’s old reliable when it comes to heat and I love the image but autofocus is very nice for some of my paid work.
plastic fantastic (realy bad,) the doors are thin... then ecomode do not turn on the laowa 6mm f2 , so camera off and on , but i love it , picture slowmotion video are great , autofocus animal cars etc works great , 1 focus point mode ,story is true , special some lenses, 30mm sigma f1.4 , 1 focusmode... bad .
The G9ii? I don’t find the built quality to be lacking much at all.
Nice video, but why a video shooter like yourself would buy a G9 and not GH7?
Look at the release date of this video and the announcement of the GH7 haha.
I didn’t realize they would release it so soon to be completely honest with you
10:06 can you make a video about this?
I’m making a S5ii G9ii and GH6 image quality comparison. Is that what you mean?
@@RhettThompsonFilm dynamic range and noise S5 vs S5ii
I just... I don't see the point, it's essentially the same body as the S5ii. If shooting primes, the only thing the micro 4/3 format brings are negatives. You end up getting dramatically less dynamic range, and inferior depth of field control. For video use cases at base ISO I suppose The increased depth of field can be useful. The classic benefit is the telephoto lens size. I own Olympus, I just don't reach for it vs my FF kit.
Like I said in the video, while it is a fairly large camera for a micro for third camera it’s lighter than pretty much every professional body we’ve got in the lineup. Even the GH5 is heavier which leads me to think this camera is really nice, especially when paired with some of the high end lenses like the medium sized prime lenses and small or large zoom lenses. If you want a system that balances fairly well with large and small lenses the weight distribution for this is really nice and the gap of image quality and dynamic range between this and the full frame cameras is not as big as you might think, unless you are doing incredibly high contrast situations all the time, or directly comparing these cameras, one stop of highlights isn’t necessarily going to be noticeable. At least it isn’t to me most of the time of course the image, quality and low performance for the full frame is nice, but I do like the controlled depth of field, which still can easily blow out the background for 90% of things 90% of the time. To each their own though!
As an mft user, yeah the only thing keeping me in the system is the price to reach for telephoto. Maybe size too because I have very small manual lenses that are kind of easy to carry on em-5 bodies in my jacket pocket while I have the 100-400 out. I have used ff and been annoyed by the size but maybe now I’ll try again. It’s hard to upgrade, at the price of this camera I could get the r8 and a lens😂.
As a long time mft shooter, this was basically the camera that kept me with the system. Would I have liked it to be smaller? Yes. Does it have everything else I need and in a body/lens combo that I can still shoot all day with? Also yes.
My clients love the images, and I love how it handles. No real down sides for me.
That said, I also have a huge collection of mft lenses. If I was to start from scratch today, it would be a challenging decision to make.
Buy a Ff camera, use it for several years and... Well... And wecome back to MFT :) That's what happens to many people...
@@paulelisarov2576 never been blown away by a full frame camera yet. Another tool in the toolbox
Love the video! Fun to watch and interesting. I still haven’t gotten my hands on a G9ii. Love the dr boost implementation. For me it would be my gimbal and studio/yt camera
That’s what I was trying to go about here was seeing if those other aspects of the camera besides auto focus would be worth purchasing it. The dynamic range boost and stabilization features are still really great even if you don’t use auto focus.