How You Can Learn The 4 Min Transition As A Tech Position In BAR
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ค. 2024
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Nice guide! The commander also produces +2M and +25E, so it's not totally clear if destructing around 3mins is optimal, since you lose out on a fair bit of metal as well as using them for their BP.
Someone should do the calculation on this ^
It takes around 10 minutes for the commander to make as much metal with his +2 as it does to eat him
Probably worth to eat then. You get t2 by 5 and t2 Mex by 6 you get 4x income at that point. Much better
@@JAWSMUNCH304 oh, it's definitely worth to eat him, but if time the self D a little later you make more M from having your com.
@dubhd4r4 what time do you recommend
For ECO players :)
I love getting t2c out by 4:30
Only problem is the lack of E if you invest in wind.
sometimes the wind is nice and you get a lot.
But there are other times where wind is at a constant 1-6 and you just wished you invested in 2 advanced solars.
My common way of doing this is to build:
2 mex
2 wind
1 mex
2 solar
bot lab (build a total of 2 bots, maybe a third if your arm and your air player needs one)
8 wind
then 3 other mexes (for when playing glitters, if not just get all your other mexes)
build 4 advanced solars (eat the 2 solar* for extra metal)
build 2 con turrets
place down the t2 lab and have the con turrets build it
move commander away and self destruct
use bots to eat.
sit and wait for t2 lab to be built
if E is still low due to bad wind, build 2 normal solars for 1 more advanced.
by this time its around 4:30-5 if you were fast and had lucky wind.
start selling your t2c to you team, by 7m you should deconstruct the t2 lab, I hate it when people expect you to keep it up till 10m just so they can buy. Save metal ffs and buy when we open, otherwise eco player is slowed down.
build 2 t2c's and 3 butlers (I use butlers to assist building anti nukes away from base to cover more allies)
build metal storage to hold the 2900 metal from the lab (meaning eat the lab AFTER you build the storage.
once t2 lab is eaten build t2 mexes
begin on fusion
begin on advanced converter
once they are done build anti (have a second anti queued on other side of base to cover a total of 6 bases, if your on a bigger map then glitters, just do your best to cover bases)
then go from there, by this point you should be around 10m-12m.
some people may dislike this build, but guess what, I'm not under any obligation to care.
I think it’s a good build especially keeping the t2 metal in your economy and pushing production of e first
I really like this video format. Its short and you explain each step and thought process
I’m glad you like it! I figured a direct video like this would help a lot more people!
Great quick tutorial! Would like to see more of these short tutorials. Can even be just different ways you get into a quick T2, or different opening front gambits (without watching the entire match). Or different opening air gambits. Love the sub-10min video (more convenient to watch). Long form videos are good too, but those limit when I have time to watch.
Definitely. I have a couple short tip videos but still need to build up more for sure 😁
Hey Jaws id be interested to see what this looks like at 10min. You get a quick T2 con but don't have the energy income to upgrade mexes without stalling on e or the metal income to get a fusion.
Two options I see you start with a butler and start pumping more winds with a con or two while the T2 con upgrades mexes orrr soon as T2 con is out you eat the lab and get a fusion up with a butler or t1 cons dropping a ton of converters.
Overall it's a risky strat I don't realistically see T2 units coming out of this build till 8-10 min mark which can be hard if your front is in a 1v2 at canyon.
I agree it was risky but I really wanted to test a fast tech 😂 I don’t fully recommend the way I play this whole game. But if you can get your front a t2 and push t2 units slowly at like 7 mins you should be ok if they don’t heavy pressure you. Optimal canyon is standard push and hold with front. Although i do have an idea for another way to hold canyon with only two coms
I’ll probably make a vid on canyon after doing some more tests
You are a content machine! ✨️
Haha the question is for how long 😉😂 my ideas have to keep coming or I’m in trouble
You werent metal stalling and you were overflowing energy. It would have been bemeficial to build one energy converter with com after the sourh mex finished and then go for com bomb.
That’s a good idea. I’m slowly trying to refine it overtime. Might be able to get to 4:30 in a perfect world
@@JAWSMUNCH304 I also think that metal storage is waste of metal. You can eat commander while building and you get constant stream of metal.
@Frosty4ever1234 that’s a good idea you just have to be very careful to no overflow. Could hurt you if something gets a bit busy for some reason. I’ll look into trying it tho
@@JAWSMUNCH304Also built metal storage for no reason. You only eat com while lacking metal, so as long as you don’t overeat you don’t waste. revive com later.
I personally am not against the M storage. Sure, when you do the build perfectly you might need it, but as your total M storage is 800 without your commander, and the t1 lab contains 660, you risk overflow if anything else occurs (say you get some extra metal from a res bot).
food for the algomonster
Delicious
I’m very new to the game! Can someone explain why he stops reclaiming Com at 5%?
@Gebbers I stop reclaim at 5% because I want to be able to resurrect him later on. 5% is almost all of his metal gone. This gives me all the bonuses with none of the negatives
The commander has a powerful dgun that will destroy any unit in the game in one shot. He is very strong late game
bruh not glitter
😂 should I have used supreme
Too many fabs and popped the com too early but still decent
Ideally you want to do this with a single fab, tha way you are getting metal into the t2 faster
Do you mean nano turrets.
Still working on refining it but it’s the best time I’ve hit so far 😁
@@JAWSMUNCH304 ah no sry i mean t1 cons. fabs is the name in PA not BAR but basically same thing