Top 10 Disappointing Crowdfunding 2022
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2024
- I love talking about board games. We've gone through the highs of 2022 so far on crowdfunding with the best campaigns but also the biggest surprises. How about now the kickstarter, gamefound, and don't forget about backerkit campaigns that didn't meet expectations or let down the most. Whether it was from price, pledge levels, deluxifications, or something else; not just what they were but why the didn't meet what we thought they were going to bring us when they finally launched.
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Time Stamp:
00:00 - Not Meeting Expectations in one way or another
00:54 - Giant Purple Elephantus In the Zombie Room
02:08 - #1 - Most Disappointing of the Year
04:43 - #2 - Elden Ringer
09:00 - #3 - Sagrada Color Pencils & Sharpener
11:36 - #4 - Legacy games on Crowdfunding
14:43 - #5 - Not So Rivet(ing)
17:00 - #6 - Maybe Too Over Amygdala
19:13 - #7 - Too Many Generic Umbrellas
20:36 - #8 - PLASTIC KINGDOMS FOR ALL!!
23:49 - #9 - More Plastic DUNE!!!!
26:13 - #10 - Are those really fox shaped?
29:10 - Final Thoughts
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Agreed on Galactus. It's one of those items you get initially excited about and then the cost to enjoyment ratio settles in.
I don't even get initially excited. It's just corny
He is going to be a good background piece in our videos, we love Marvel and painting minis, hope to enjoy the gameplay as well.
The model itself is the point, the gameplay is extra. The cthulhu statue is chillin in my game room and I have zero regrets
Finally! Someone sharing my exact same thought!
Thought 1: "Why the hell would I spend $100 on a legacy game?!"
Thought 2: "Am I missing something here? Why are these people backing the game?"
Was disappointed in JP as well, feel Funko and sometimes Ravensburger is just using their IP as a cash grab. After seeing the Dice Tower reviews I'm glad we didn't back it.
17:21 I completely agree with you about Amygdala, Chris! When they canceled the campaign with the acrylic and came back with NO acrylic and only "thicker cardboard" and spot UV on the cover - I said that those are usually stretch goals which I refuse to pay for - and that I would see them at retail, as I see zero incentives to back their campaign at the price. I am still interested in the game, but this was one of the biggest misses campaign-wise in my opinion.
100% agree with your breakdown. Fox Experiment is one of those I looked at and thought that this will be a lot better at retail.
CMON's Vol 2 Comic Pre-Order with board game exclusives is the one that frustrates me the most.
Agreed on Backerkit. Great video overall 👍
Awesome video! Have to agree with you on all points!
Glad you enjoyed!
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Agreed on Galactus, Fox Experiment and Sagrada. Stickers and pencil sharpener offended me to the point I expunged it from my mind until you brought it up again lol
Agreed on considering highs and lows together which helps to see things in the future with a clearer perspective.
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I gave up on CMoN games and campaigns after their scam of a Time Machine Campaign (You didn't mentioned that one, though it might have even been last year). Thankfully that means that I wasn't dragged into the whole Marvel Zombies thing.
I completely skipped out on the Spirit Island campaign in protest of how much of a mess it was. With no promos or anything to make it worth backing the campaign, it was easy to just wait for retail on it. It's not like there was ever any concern that it wouldn't be made.
I had the same effy feeling for every game mentioned, and I still half heatedly backed Dune only because I liked the war of the ring when I played it, and my collection needed a heavy 1on1
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I was in such shock a the price on kingdom builder and like you briefly touched on I just don't think the art, components and minis are even close to as pretty as COB and that had beautiful acrylic tiles
Agreed!
Tbh, I prefer miniatures to cardboard standees but if they would put acrylic standees in more games, I would probably always choose them if it's cheaper. The ones from Vagrantsong are awesome. I don't know if they are cheaper or easier to produce than miniatures but I am sad that there aren't more games with such standees.
The issue is that depending on the number of copies of the game sold, then miniatures become a ton cheaper than acrylic standees or wooden meeples (and at a certain point comparable to regular standees).
@Todd Ferrullo Interesting. Are standee prices the same regardless of the amount produced/ not reducing as much in price as miniatures do?
@@DarkCrysisHQ Yes, acrylic in particular do not go down in price with quantity (and standard ones not much either these days with the increases in paper costs) since it is mostly materials cost rather than the mold cost, which is a one time up front cost for miniatures. Miniatures can be made for pennies after the mold costs are covered.
@@toddferrullo1871 Thank you for the clarification. That is kinda sad to hear.
Feel Rivet Wars pricing is trying to more closely align with normal miniature tabletop war games like Warhammer. If you look at Marvel Crisis Protocol their prices per mini are high as well and you still have to assemble and have no board/terrain. So for them it feels like this is a better $ entry point.
I mean i understand it. But oof at the same time!
@ yep and why I haven't gotten into Crisis Protocol even though that is what encouraged us to start gaming. Similarly the new Star Wars Shatterpoint coming out will follow the same level.
@@GettinJiggly yeah if either shatterpoint or crisis protocol came with prebuilt I’d probably be in too deep.
Like the point about fox meeples - missed your chance to say amorphous ( now one of your regrets for 2022 )
lol
I needz it all 😝
Spirit Island - I backed it only to support the development for one of my most loved games ever, however 100% there weren't any other reasons to back. Even getting it first isn't a guarantee in this day in age considering how many games get to retail first and a pre-order would secure that for me.
Umbrella Academy - visually I liked it, but yes the gameplay sounded way too simple. Like another Marvel United with an IP that people don't know as well and without the super modular aspects that let MU standup for more avid gamers.
Kingdom Builder - I'm glad I tried just the base game used because the game was just ok, nothing exciting enough especially considering how crazy they've been with the sprawl of releases
Dune War for Arakis - I'm excited and it sounds like they designed something that's an easier entry point to War of the Ring and Rebellion. Quicker to play and quicker to teach - especially teaching the harokken side. I don't think the exclusives are that much in this one, so the reason to back for me was that it was just an overall value if you wanted all the content. I'm a fan of the series so the minis themselves were reason enough to back. I think with the designer of War of the Ring behind this that I can be comfortable it will be balanced.
Fox Experiment - 100% I just decided to wait for retail
No purple dude for me either - I did the all but giant purple pledge
For UA it just looked simple and an IP cash grab for the comics. It definitely wasn't a Hellboy caliber game.
you liked the theme of Fox Experiment.... did you read what the concept was?
I assume 'Puppy Mill the Game' didn't test well
I like foxes.
Guud video
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Strongly agree on Galactus and Elden Ring topic (as a fan of Elden Ring i backed but i'm having huge backer remorse now...). Really disagree on the Dune topic, WotR has many expansions that does not unbalance the game and people really like it, so i'ts possible to balance Dune too...
Oh I'm not saying its impossible. But I don't think all of those WotR expansions were developed at the same time. And with CMON's track record for expansion balance.....yeah...
there were a lot of bad KS projects this year
Tons of ones with issues. But these are the ones that I expected more out of in particular. Not just not well put together ones in the first place
What’s the fox say? 🦊
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Elden Ring's immersive narrative, presented through daily Updates, was clunky at best and phoned-in at worst. Not a good look for a narrative-driven adventure game, and I can't be the only one who noticed the bad writing.
I need bigger zombicide character miniature. It would be better than this pointless. Cmon should make bigger version of zombicide game. bigger miniature, bigger tiles.
Bigger tiles for sure at times
The minis discussion is a little strange.
You don’t go into a steak house and scream “if this were only burgers it would be much cheaper”
The minis are part of the experience, like the graphics in a video game.
Also, the comparison between the video game and boardgame price is also quite strange.
One is a “picture” on a screen the other is a physical object. Of course it is more expensive.
I don’t defend the price politic here. I think this could easily have 30% more content for the same price. But it is what it is.
Seeing a good underpriced KS now vs 5 years ago is different.
5 years ago I was like “cool awesome deal, super happy”
Now: “wow too cheap, they won’t make it, very concerned”
All this leads to backing less. Which is kind of a good thing.
“Time and space is the problem not money “ best sentence in the video! And I am only 8 mins in 😂
Happy new year! Keep the channel going.
A list video games generally cost waaaaay more to produce than anything other than movies so the comparison could be valid.... well... people bought Diablo Immortal... so who knows now days.
"You don’t go into a steak house and scream “if this were only burgers it would be much cheaper”"
That is a rather strange comparison. If I want a steak I go to a steak house. If I want a burger I go to a place that sells burgers. You are off the mark here I believe.
I'm on standee team like Chris. I have enough minis to last me for a lifetime. But that is beside the point. Plastic minis is more expensive and raises the price significantly of just the core box. That puts off many people; a lot of people don't have the funds for that. If you want minis? Fine. Go buy the mini-version. Publishers want to sell their games to more people, and if less people can afford it the publishers don't get as much on their crowdfunding campaigns. More publishers have figured this out in recent years and include a version that has standees.
You can say that minis are part of the experience but if I can't afford the game I don't get to play it. But otherwise you are right about the price politics. It is what it is. And I agree on underpriced crowdfunding campaigns. But I'm done with crowdfunding games now - except for two small publishers. I have too many game and too little time. ;)
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