I have some pessimism when it comes to fleshing out Cadance and Shining Armor. They've been through several life-changing events and seem to have come out no different. It's strange since this episode gave Shining Armor a moment of characterization to show him as a big kid at heart. Whatever the foal's identity, I find my reaction to this news to be "meh." And I don't want "meh." I'd like to be happy or sad or even confused. A lack of reaction seems worse than even a negative reaction.
Did you notice Derpy talking with some pony and Dinky sitting next to her, patiently waiting for her to finish the conversation? Absolutely like mother and daughter -- a very strong nod to the fans.
There were several moments where I thought there was no way Pinkie could keep her trap shut any longer, but I'm glad she did. I was a little surprised that they just straight up told the audience at the very beginning, but it did make Pinkie's attempts to keep the secret more enjoyable. Besides, I think most of us had already figured it out before the episode even started. It was a fun episode and I look forward to seeing how they build up the foal's birth in future episodes.
I actually couldn't help but think that the surprise was going to be Shining Armor and Cadance having a baby, but I also didn't want to set my expections too high as I honestly wasn't sure if the show would ever be able to handle the subject of pregnancy. So even though part of me knew what the surprise was I was really surprised that they actually went through with it! So yeah, a fun episode that now has me waiting for the future baby.
Considering that 65 episodes took 1 year and we are getting some consistency with few holidays to ground this, the cake twins are now 71 episodes old, so it would be about 1 year 1 month old. Also if this show is similar to real life (horse pregnancies taking 12 months), we won't be seeing the baby until Season 7 (or near the end of Se6). I really just hope we get to see more of Cadence and Shining in stories that are more than just about the pregnancy.
I am more interested in what this episode implies for the future of the show. Because either we get to see the new little foal in season 6, which implies that the time between season 5 to 6 is nearly a year in that universe, or we have possibly gotten a small hint towards season 7 being confirmed.
I absolutely loved every minute of this episode. One reason is the fact I won't have to worry about my cadence Halloween costume fitting; If it's too tight, I'll just say she's pregnant! ;P
I think this will give hope to a potential episode that I think we lost with the Cake babies. Parents with a new born child and having to balance parenting, work, and romance with immense difficulty. Imagine if Cadence and Shining lost their kid in their massive castle due to exhaustion in Crystal Empire while having to deal with an important royal duty as well. But then, after finding him/her, they start neglecting their duties to be good parents, only to create even more problems. This would otherwise feel like wasted potential if something like this doesn't happen. Chances are, we ain't getting another pair of expecting parents again on this show.
Is it weird that I drew a parallel of Pinkie trying to keep the secret of Shining Armor's and Cadance's suprise to how Bronies like me try hard not to tell pepole about them watching MLP:FiM? XP
I hoped in the end of the episode that Pinkie Pie finally told Twilight and the others the truth that she knew that Shining Armour and Cadance were having a baby in the first place because they could have realise Pinkie Pie's strange behaviour and why she was the one who knew the clues to the scavenger hunt.
Honestly, I was a little more interested in the things they did with Shining Armor, namely all that stuff Twilight brought back for him and how he reacted. I actually got a laugh out of seeing his look of horror when he found the comic that Spike burned to asses. If anything this gives a little more characterization to Shining Armor, namely he's into a comic books and seems pretty keen on nostalgic stuff. All I know is there will be a big wave of Fanfic coming just from those few seconds alone.
Would've been nice to see more characterization from Cadence and Shining Armor, but oh well. The episode was great. Keeping Pinkie Pie from keeping a secret is like trying to hold in a bomb. I loved it. a few flaws, but not major. And again, last weeks episode didn't really fly with me (too much spoiling)
I freakin loooved Shining Armor going nuts over his childhood room set-up so much, I watched it twice! It's great seeing a more "pony"-side of him, and seeing where he comes from, and him looking so animated :D I agree with you on it not being exactly best-of-the-best, but still a great episode. I too am also so relieved Pinkie kept the secret! That woulda been really disappointing. Love your videos!!
This episode killed me. I was broken before Pinkie did. And when she broke I froze. Hello, aunty Twilight. P.S. Animators did got lazy (or was it miscomunication?) on expressions of menacing Rarity and Rainbow.
To be honest, I was worried Cadence couldn't have a foal for, immortal reasons. Then again, I'm happy they didn't hide it from the audience, thoigj I was worried they were going for a 'misread' ending
+brian577 I always wanted Luna to have a colt so it fit my fan idea of Luna having her colt kidnaped by the Nightmare Moon Cult. Colt and Cult it makes for a fun pun. but I also have a fan idea Cadence has a foal and Twilight does the sunshine sunshine dance. acutly I have fan art of each of the ponies having children each one the opposite of the parent's personality. My idea for Pinki's Daughter was basicly Maude before Maude existed on the show. and I made Fluttershy's bold and adventue seaking and loud and so on down the line.
It's a friends episode. No like, this is literally the episode of friends where Joey finds out Chandler and Monica are a couple. Blow for blow with Pinkie not being to spill the secret, managing to keep with the biggest of difficulties, and finally getting pure delight and relief out of everyone finding out (the only difference being the last one happened a few episodes later in friends). Also, am I the only who thought Rarity was written very oddly in this episode. I don't know, all of her lines were just...off for her character.
+Minespatch the channel even from her first line she seemed off. Why did she call Pinkie Ms. Pie? Did I just miss that being a thing she did from time to time?
To me, this was the line of the episode: Rainbow: "Sooo, I know the bar is set pretty high, but does anypony else think Pinkie Pie was acting weirder than usual?"
for my, this was by far the funniest episode of the season, i'm genuenly looking forward to the baby's introduction, and i'm hoping that the moment when it happens we will see a new face of both cadence and shinning, overall i liked the episode. great video doc!, keep doing such an awesome job
+Scámarca Productions How so? She said right at the very start, she never actually Pinkie promised not to tell anypony or to keep a secret. She just found out something by accident, with no direct obligation to keep it a secret. But she wasn't going to rules lawyer out of it and did want to keep it a secret, simply because it's what Shining and Cadance wanted. Secondly, as above, there is a massive difference between expecting someone to do something difficult, and actually doing it yourself. She tried her hardest to keep it a secret, that is what counts. she TRIED!
I hope they don't skip over the pregnancy and birth like they did with Mrs.Cake. That wouldn't be good for developing Cadence's character if we didn't see her going through the actual pregnancy, plus I think the baby being born has potential for a two part episode just like the royal wedding but we'll have to wait and see how the writers handle this.
+Alisha Dee It would probably offend* people for no reason if they showed her pregnant, so I doubt that's going to happen. *People think they/others should be offended but aren't actually.
+Alisha Dee I was actually wondering if Cadence would look a bit, erm, thicker than her usual very thin self. But I suppose that wouldn't really happen until she was farther along.
+Alisha Dee Plus you need to remember that when all is said and done this is still a kids show so there's only so much they can show, that being said I'm sure they'll find clever ways to reference it like they did with the five stage's of grief.
+Emerald Skies™ And to those people I say, CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGES!!! The ones who would bitch about that would probably be feminists, the Anita Sarkesian ones. *shudders*
Taking a beaten-to-death concept and not going the same place that any other episode would is one of the strong points of this series (see also: Brotherhooves Social), so the results here weren't at all surprising. I enjoyed the very meta/self-aware humor out of Pinkie Pie, and once again I have to give major props to the animators for clearly having a blast with their work. So, yeah, not much else to say except it's good to finally see more Pinkie Pie. I've missed her.
One thing I can't help but wonder about this episode; would it have worked even better if Pinkie hadn't read the letter out loud right at the beginning? Like, having the episode be exactly the same, but have it so they don't actually say out loud what the secret is that Pinkie is keeping until right at the end! I know that everyone pretty much predicted that Shining Armour and Cadence were going to have a baby long before the episode aired, but I kind of like the idea of keeping the audience guessing. I can't help but think if they had went that direction it would have been a lot more entertaining for a lot of fans because you'd want for Pinkie not to spoil the surprise for Twilight, but you'd also almost want Pinkie to spill the beans to confirm what a lot of fans had pretty much predicted!
Did anyone else notice between time 7:05min - 7:15min where we see Ditzy/Derpy together with Dinky talking with a white pegasus mare with a bluish mane? Plus, there was a stallion with Big Macintosh's design but with Caramel's colours and cutie mark walking by pulling a cart.
I really love to hear the new and also working on a review. I somehow hear some spoiler that their might be some episode which just look like this. I pretty enjoy it after all.
my favorite part of this episode is the ending when pinky said it was easy to keep it a secret, and look at the fourth-wall and shake her head.(it wasn´t)
Was I expecting Shining and Cadnce starting a family? Absolutely! That's usually what happens when you marry someone, especially since your wife is the Princess of Love They should name the Foal *STORMAGEDDON, DARK LORD OF ALL* But Shining, have you talked to Cadence about Chrysalis yet?
I think that moment towards the end were Pinkie pops apart is the real standout moment for me. It's a matter of "Okay, there's 'she's being extra-pinkie pie today' and there's 'Channeling her Inner Discord.'" And I think it's a bit of a moment like the latter. New headcanon! "Become a Draconequus/Being Along the lines of Discord" is a potential occupational hazard for an "Element of Laughter."
I kept thinking so many times there was going to be a moment where she spilled the beans but never did. Honestly it made me just as tense as her just seeing her build up pressure and just trying everything possible to keep her mouth closed. Loved the hilarious antics done by her and the rest of the ponies and of course the big reveal at then end with Pinkie making it through the secret. Like you said it yourself Dr Wolf, not a standing ovation like The Crusaders Of The Lost Mark but still worthy of its applause. ^-^ And best moment had to have been Fluttershy with the joke glasses on her tail. I don't know why but they made it work. ^O^
This ep has sooooo Many Friends (1994) refrences: let's start from the title the episode is called THE ONE WHERE Pinkie Pie knows and every title of friends is The one where....... And Pinkie Pie was so Joey in this episode
as pinky pie, I find it difficult to keep secrets, or to explain it better....when I and my sister are trying to find presents to our parents and it is meant to be a secret, it is really hard to keep it that way.
I knew about the "surprise" because the staff kept hinting at it. Was anyone else thinking of Gumby when Pinkie Pie fell apart at the end there? I also liked the way you ended this review. Very amusing.
Although I thought the plot was kind of cliche, the humor made up for it. Am I the only one who thought of the balloon garden scene from Return of Harmony when Pinkie Pie let out the secret right before Shining and Cadence showed up (around 4:31)?
I've been thinking, since the Princess Skyla toy is already older than Poundcake and Pumpkin cake, do you think that means there will be a larger passage of time between this season and the next? Will the CMC grow up a bit too? Would be interesting.
I didn't expect Shining Armor and Cadence to have a child just cause the princess Skyla toy came out so long ago. And really I was surprised that Pinkie was able to keep a secret for so long. It's really shown how far her character has come even if it was really hard for her
I always thought the Princes Skyla toy was a throwback to the G3 line as I've seen it with a baby Pinkie Pie doll that seemed to be made in a similar style (despite having G4 Pinkie pictured on the box art) as well as a couple other toys.
Its nice to see Shining was smart enough to tell Twilight before Cadance actually shows she is with child. Though I wonder if it will cause problems in the future, for if alicorns are immortal, then he might discovering his own mortality with some well place words. I wonder how Shinning will handle knowing his wife, sister (and possibly her friends since its stated she won't out live them and the elements powers could make them immortal) and now is daughter could live centuries beyond. Its a popular story and I've think it was done well with the Asari and their spouse in Mass Effect universe, so I wonder if the writers of MLP can handle such story telling. As well as get a story centered around Shinning as he deals with the thoughts of mortality and drag in the Main 6 as well.
I just realized this episode reminds me a LOT of an animaniacs episode called Potty Emergency. The high speed animation and the extreme facial expressions and body language. The only difference is the premise, this one is just about keeping a secret while the animaniacs one is about maintaining public decency.
AHHH! How in equestria did you for get the two scenes with APPLEJACKS BIRTH SURTIFICAT??? With her being embarrassed and affaraid of her friends seeing her birth sitifacet in this episode, and her saying to applebloom "if your parents were here, they'd be so proud of you" while crying last episode! I am now %100 definite applejacks parents are dead.
The status quo changed for me, Doc. I never related to or super enjoyed pinkie pie before, but this episode completely changed that. Her reaction to keeping a secret is exactly what I go through, albeit my reactions are entirely internal where hers are external. Also, Crossbows confirmed!
This episode was pretty much Ponk being Ponk; and it was the hardest I've laughed at MLP.... I think ever!There seems to be so little appreciation for yester year cartoon humour at the moment. (If Brotherhooves was any indication...) So it was fun to see an episode that could have ended with Pinky looking the audience in the eye and saying "That's all folks!" :P
Well i didnt knew of Skyla but alot of people mentioned the secret being cadance being pregnant. Personally one of my favorite scenes was seeing Shining Armor's face after seeing the destroyed #1 issue of what i gues would be called Super Stallion
Even more interesting to note that most of the characters Pinkie interacted with had some knowledge or relation to the plot separate from Pinkie's direct interaction with them. Like Featherweight with the newspaper, the furnature store guy with the crib, Mayor Mare etc. it's like they knew, too... (though Pinkie obviously realised the Mayor knew as she was having a similar struggle). And Spike screwed up again, burning a 3,000,000Bit comic. Dammit, Spike.
One little trivia fact that I really loved is that the episode's title is a reference to the Friends episode "The One Where Joey Finds Out" which had the same premise.
I forgot to mention on my last comment with this episode what my favorite joke was. It was at the end when Cadance asks if it was hard and Pinkie say's it was a piece of cake. Then she break's the fouth wall shaking her head no. LOL!
I for one loved seeing the CMC with their new cutie marks on full display when they approach Pinkie and ask if she's heard any good gossip. I also never really expected to hear the phrase "aunt Twilight" uttered in the show outside of a joke or teasing nickname.
I've always known that they would do a "royal baby" episode eventually. It was only a matter of time. I'm curious to see if the baby will be born as an alicorn, which would support my headcanon of Princess Celestia and Luna being more powerful and immortal because they were born as alicorns instead of being ascended alicorns like Twilight and Cadence.
its 2 in the morning and i had ti get up jst to ask this ... what was in cadance and shinings bags the brought with them there was like a dozen of them. and ponies rarely ware any clothes so what would be in them i guess since they had a thing to go to that got moved they may have needed stuf but they are royalty why not have excess stuff shiped back with gards and there royal escort or whatever i would realy like to know whats in there bags cant be to much because spike carried all of them at once
say has anyone heard that cadance and shing had a sumit to get to before they went to twilights castel?i tought finaly they do somting. but yeah a foal ? why do i think we are getting a baby cakes episode for this one as well one episode and then back to the royal background. i call it royal background because the royal Family spents most of the 5 seasons in the backround which is a shame because they seem like great caracters i am aware of Luna episodes but some episodes focsing on celstia or cadance would be nice what do you guys think?
When I found out the premise of the episode was that pinkie was keeping a secret about shining and cadence, I eventually had the idea that maybe they were having a baby. As soon as pinkie said the word baby at the start of the episode, I flipped out. My theory was correct, and I'm happy that it was.
I completely thought that the episode would take a cue from Friends (where the title obviously did) and become a story about both parties hiding the fact that they knew the other knew about the surprise and going through with it anyway. I'm sure it would have been cute, but likely would have been clichéd. My favorite facial moment was when Pinkie said "they're going to have a lot more to take care of soon". Something about the face and voice combo just cracked me up. Also, I too immediately thought of that Family Guy moment when they had that balloon-thing on screen.
I think the episode could've been better, if Mrs. Cake told Pinkie to keep it a secret, before Pinkie yelled "A BABY!?", that way the audience doesn't know what's up.
My pet theory (at least at the moment) is that Shining Armor and Cadance set all of this up as a test for Pinkie because they want to invite her to be their royal nanny.
We saw the twins for a moment in DTs song last episode i think they where pamper free then. I guess since Earth and Peigsi ponies have to use there mouths to change them they might potty train as fast as the can
i like the balloons of the character calling back to the season 2 premiere with the balloons discord had made to look like pinkie's friends to trick her
Yes, I did notice that Pound and Pumpkin Cake are no longer wearing diapers. Also, I think Silver Quill's *clears throat* "joke" about why Cadence and Shining Armor not being at the Gala in "Make New Friends But Keep Discord" may have turned out as a lucky guess in his review of said episode.
we all knew what they were doing in the crystal empire and with shining armor actions when twilight showed him his rome makes me think that it was a long time coming for cadence to have a child also it was quite amusing seeing twilight at the end still have to piec together that they were having a baby i realy loved that moment when she figured it out when she reared up and plaped her wings, it just seemed very natural to me and i really liked that
I swear, the final act seemed like an abridged episode of Blue's Clues to me. Twilight was basically Steve in his Thinking Chair at the climax of each episode.
Having a baby would open a lot of story Ideas for the writer.One being having twilight or spike after them.Next, pinkie bringing the twins too meet the new foal.Or how cadence is doing a few weeks before the kid comes.
I would have liked to see what the reaction for the community if the actual secret hadn't even been made known to the audience until the rest of the cast found out as well. I think that would have been harder hitting.
It didn't make sense to me when the episode first came out as Cadence didn't look pregnant when she and Shining Armor made the announcement. Either it was early days for her or she cast a very strong illusion spell around herself so when anyone outside the Crystal Empire looked at her, they don't see the tummy that says she was with child.
I honestly hope we get to see more of Cadence and Shining Armor in following episodes. It would be amazing too see them act a little less perfect throughout the process of having a foal. Shining got some characterization this episode, but Cadence is still practically flawless. I would like to see her struggle with the change. I would personally enjoy an episode where after the foal is born, Cadence realizes that being a mother is in a whole different league than being a foalsitter.
I was less focused on the baby announcement, mostly cuz I've seen skyla and saw the title, and more focused on the humor. this episode had me laughing so many times in what might be Andrea Libman's best performance when complimented by the amazing animation
I thought that G M Berrow did a good job for her first episode. I can't wait to see more from her. I was a little surprised that despite all the setup for the foal, that Shining and Cadance weren't there for most of it. The biggest standout moment for me is definitely the animation of the episode, particularly with the tube man.
for me the episode was kind of meh....on the other hand what i FIND interresting though is the fact that the cuty marks of the cmc have changed ;-) it was first the shield, then a symbol and ontop another symbol. for example sweety bloom had a note, inside a star on the shield. now the note was gone. also for the other 2 ;-)
+GirlPainting They didn't change, those are their official marks, if it was different at all it was either a case of them being to small to animate it properly or for that part to show up, or a basic animation error.
Just from experience, that kind of secret is HARD to keep. especially for 9 months! I love how they did this episode! i was dying the entire time, like "OMG I KNOW I KNOW!" " YEA I REMEMBER THAT LMAO" "OMG PINKIE ME TOO!!" After reading and loving the fanfic story 'Bride of Discord' by disneyfanatic2364, I had always hoped the writers would do a baby for the couple. Name wise isn't a big deal to me, so long as she's or he's not a background character. Make the foul like the cmc or has the pregnant cadence be involved with the season climax, idk.
For a moment I thought Pinkie was going to spoil the news, but in way that her friends would have tought she was the one who was having a baby. By the ways I had nerver heard about princess Skayla before, and even though being an episode with the potencial to change the series, it just felt average, or how I like to say "pasó sin pena ni gloria" (went without pain or glory". Also, I want to see Cadence through her pregnancy! Those lovebirds deserve some development.
Clever 'Roger Rabbit tribute' in the meltdown shot of Pinkie. Definitely a canonization of (one part of) the fanfic video series: "Bride of Discord." (the baby-angle was part of the conflict set-up in that story.) "Antie Twilight?" Love to follow that arc.
So THAT'S where the Skyla thing came from, now that I think about It, I remember back In the days before Ponies entered my life seeing the commercial on It. Obviously forgot for a reason...
I was actually afraid it would turn out Pinkie mis-read the letter and Cadence wasn't pregnant after all, so Pinkie went through all that stress for nothing. It was a relief when it turned out they were expecting.
Still no brother Shy. I am glad they show the cmc with their cutie-marks as to show last weeks ep was not a dream like it seem to me. And these is a good reference for when you are trying to not spoil a story but really want to talk about it. I acted a bit like these last week when I watch the new ep before my brother and tried to get him to watch it so I could talk about it with him, with out spoiling it for him. By they way any one else saw that Featherweight was missing his cutie-mark?
I thought this episode was amazing. It may be my favorite episode because it's so funny. That joke at the end where Pinkie says keeping the secret was a piece of cake and then tells the audience it wasn't made me laugh more than any joke of the whole show. By the way, when Shining Armor and Cadence have their baby, it had better be only one. They had better not do what Dora the Explorer did and have a boy and a girl. Cindy Morrow could either use the cliche (One Bad Apple) or break the cliche (Sisterhooves Social).
This is why Pinkie Pie is the Deadpool of the MLP world. She's great at mugging for the camera, and the collateral damage tends to rocket when she gets emotional. ;)
Must resist urge to say first... Anywho, this episode was basically, a field day for the animators. The massive amount of facial expression kept my attention half of the time but I feel it was, to say the least..rushed. Yes I know that most episodes follow this same issue but, there was so much that happened all at one that I lost track. It was nice to see some development on Shining and the Cake foals though. I just hope that this new "baby" concept isn't forget ten for another two seasons and or rushed as well. I was somewhat relieved to know that this episode didn't follow the same cliche' and that it was simply, a crazy Pinkie episode. Though I hope the writers do more development on Pinkie, family/ background wise. But I believe not bad G.M Berrow, not bad...Thank you for listing to my thought. /)* Brohoof *
Funny thing is, I knew it was gonna happen at some point. I knew the writers were being too quiet about Shining Armor and Princess Cadence starting a family. The thing that bugs me about it though was the episode description gave it away, although I already knew it was gonna happen. Overall, I think it could have been handled better, like not tell us what the note said and have us find out by surprise so we'd be thrown back and forth not knowing the ending.
I thought that the "secret" would turn out to NOT involve little ones... though, part of that may have been due to my mistaken impression that "Skyla" was a fanon creation, and not based on merchandise...
I have a feeling that Princess Skyla will out age the Cakes, seeing as the promotion for the toy has her as CMC age (bit younger). I guess they can easily chalk that up to Alicorns aging faster.
I have some pessimism when it comes to fleshing out Cadance and Shining Armor. They've been through several life-changing events and seem to have come out no different. It's strange since this episode gave Shining Armor a moment of characterization to show him as a big kid at heart.
Whatever the foal's identity, I find my reaction to this news to be "meh." And I don't want "meh." I'd like to be happy or sad or even confused. A lack of reaction seems worse than even a negative reaction.
Did that impact your overall view of this episode in any way?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks like that. By the way, hi Mr. Quill n_n
lol ya after seeing shining react to the room like that made me questions the lead up to the creation of said baby
do a review of the episode
I am so sorry you feel this way for the up coming baby character. Personally, it just shows that bring new life is a blessing to people (or pony).
Did you notice Derpy talking with some pony and Dinky sitting next to her, patiently waiting for her to finish the conversation? Absolutely like mother and daughter -- a very strong nod to the fans.
There were several moments where I thought there was no way Pinkie could keep her trap shut any longer, but I'm glad she did. I was a little surprised that they just straight up told the audience at the very beginning, but it did make Pinkie's attempts to keep the secret more enjoyable. Besides, I think most of us had already figured it out before the episode even started. It was a fun episode and I look forward to seeing how they build up the foal's birth in future episodes.
I actually couldn't help but think that the surprise was going to be Shining Armor and Cadance having a baby, but I also didn't want to set my expections too high as I honestly wasn't sure if the show would ever be able to handle the subject of pregnancy. So even though part of me knew what the surprise was I was really surprised that they actually went through with it! So yeah, a fun episode that now has me waiting for the future baby.
Considering that 65 episodes took 1 year and we are getting some consistency with few holidays to ground this, the cake twins are now 71 episodes old, so it would be about 1 year 1 month old.
Also if this show is similar to real life (horse pregnancies taking 12 months), we won't be seeing the baby until Season 7 (or near the end of Se6). I really just hope we get to see more of Cadence and Shining in stories that are more than just about the pregnancy.
+Greycat R if your brain doesn't hurt from that, then i don't know what will
In the words of Silver Quill "don't name it Skyla!"
Who knows, maybe they will surprise us all and we will get the 1st cannon male alicorn :3
+Fist-of-doom Wondering if I should get that on a T-shirt.
Dammit I was gonna say that!
In the naming category of haspro I think that is the name there going for no matter what we say
plz let her be named Skyla
as a fan of SA and PC i am happy to hear them having kid
I am more interested in what this episode implies for the future of the show.
Because either we get to see the new little foal in season 6, which implies that the time between season 5 to 6 is nearly a year in that universe, or we have possibly gotten a small hint towards season 7 being confirmed.
I absolutely loved every minute of this episode. One reason is the fact I won't have to worry about my cadence Halloween costume fitting; If it's too tight, I'll just say she's pregnant! ;P
I think this will give hope to a potential episode that I think we lost with the Cake babies.
Parents with a new born child and having to balance parenting, work, and romance with immense difficulty. Imagine if Cadence and Shining lost their kid in their massive castle due to exhaustion in Crystal Empire while having to deal with an important royal duty as well. But then, after finding him/her, they start neglecting their duties to be good parents, only to create even more problems.
This would otherwise feel like wasted potential if something like this doesn't happen. Chances are, we ain't getting another pair of expecting parents again on this show.
Is it weird that I drew a parallel of Pinkie trying to keep the secret of Shining Armor's and Cadance's suprise to how Bronies like me try hard not to tell pepole about them watching MLP:FiM? XP
+Alex Ramirez
Uh... yes.
I hoped in the end of the episode that Pinkie Pie finally told Twilight and the others the truth that she knew that Shining Armour and Cadance were having a baby in the first place because they could have realise Pinkie Pie's strange behaviour and why she was the one who knew the clues to the scavenger hunt.
Honestly, I was a little more interested in the things they did with Shining Armor, namely all that stuff Twilight brought back for him and how he reacted. I actually got a laugh out of seeing his look of horror when he found the comic that Spike burned to asses.
If anything this gives a little more characterization to Shining Armor, namely he's into a comic books and seems pretty keen on nostalgic stuff. All I know is there will be a big wave of Fanfic coming just from those few seconds alone.
Hang on, you're back to your old art style! Not that I'm complaining, I just thought the new style was going to be a permanent change. Oh well. :)
the other one had the CMC cape emblem on the book
+Oscar Stainton I like this one better anyway.
+Oscar Stainton For some videos he's using this one as it's easier to edit as I was sick this morning and couldn't edit w/ the new art
Greeneflower That's fair enough. Thanks for clearing that up!
thank you so much for that ending, that was all that was needed to make the episode + the review complete.
Would've been nice to see more characterization from Cadence and Shining Armor, but oh well. The episode was great. Keeping Pinkie Pie from keeping a secret is like trying to hold in a bomb. I loved it. a few flaws, but not major. And again, last weeks episode didn't really fly with me (too much spoiling)
I freakin loooved Shining Armor going nuts over his childhood room set-up so much, I watched it twice! It's great seeing a more "pony"-side of him, and seeing where he comes from, and him looking so animated :D I agree with you on it not being exactly best-of-the-best, but still a great episode. I too am also so relieved Pinkie kept the secret! That woulda been really disappointing.
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This episode killed me. I was broken before Pinkie did.
And when she broke I froze.
Hello, aunty Twilight.
P.S. Animators did got lazy (or was it miscomunication?) on expressions of menacing Rarity and Rainbow.
To be honest, I was worried Cadence couldn't have a foal for, immortal reasons. Then again, I'm happy they didn't hide it from the audience, thoigj I was worried they were going for a 'misread' ending
Well at least it's cannon that alicorns aren't sterile
Why do i see you everywhere!!!!
+The Autistic Pony I doubt Cadence is immortal, she and Twilight aren't natural alicorns like Celestia and Luna
+brian577 I always wanted Luna to have a colt so it fit my fan idea of Luna having her colt kidnaped by the Nightmare Moon Cult. Colt and Cult it makes for a fun pun. but I also have a fan idea Cadence has a foal and Twilight does the sunshine sunshine dance. acutly I have fan art of each of the ponies having children each one the opposite of the parent's personality. My idea for Pinki's Daughter was basicly Maude before Maude existed on the show. and I made Fluttershy's bold and adventue seaking and loud and so on down the line.
+The Autistic Pony I was, too, and I was so glad it didn't end up that way! :D
It's a friends episode. No like, this is literally the episode of friends where Joey finds out Chandler and Monica are a couple. Blow for blow with Pinkie not being to spill the secret, managing to keep with the biggest of difficulties, and finally getting pure delight and relief out of everyone finding out (the only difference being the last one happened a few episodes later in friends). Also, am I the only who thought Rarity was written very oddly in this episode. I don't know, all of her lines were just...off for her character.
+lexie jones (loraxaddict487) The Friends parallel would explain the title.
+lexie jones (loraxaddict487) I thought Rarity was joking at first but I hear ya.
+Minespatch the channel even from her first line she seemed off. Why did she call Pinkie Ms. Pie? Did I just miss that being a thing she did from time to time?
+lexie jones (loraxaddict487) No, that was new, and yeah it was rather odd.
I agree, she was weirdly aggressive.
To me, this was the line of the episode:
Rainbow: "Sooo, I know the bar is set pretty high, but does anypony else think Pinkie Pie was acting weirder than usual?"
for my, this was by far the funniest episode of the season, i'm genuenly looking forward to the baby's introduction, and i'm hoping that the moment when it happens we will see a new face of both cadence and shinning, overall i liked the episode.
great video doc!, keep doing such an awesome job
I kind of felt like the continuity was broken in how hard it was for Pinkie to keep the secret with how serious she was with Twilight before.
+Scámarca Productions How so? She said right at the very start, she never actually Pinkie promised not to tell anypony or to keep a secret. She just found out something by accident, with no direct obligation to keep it a secret. But she wasn't going to rules lawyer out of it and did want to keep it a secret, simply because it's what Shining and Cadance wanted.
Secondly, as above, there is a massive difference between expecting someone to do something difficult, and actually doing it yourself. She tried her hardest to keep it a secret, that is what counts. she TRIED!
It's a decent good episode. With a crazy breakdown Pinkie Pie, and C and SA's upcoming baby. :)
I hope they don't skip over the pregnancy and birth like they did with Mrs.Cake. That wouldn't be good for developing Cadence's character if we didn't see her going through the actual pregnancy, plus I think the baby being born has potential for a two part episode just like the royal wedding but we'll have to wait and see how the writers handle this.
+Alisha Dee It would probably offend* people for no reason if they showed her pregnant, so I doubt that's going to happen.
*People think they/others should be offended but aren't actually.
+Alisha Dee I was actually wondering if Cadence would look a bit, erm, thicker than her usual very thin self. But I suppose that wouldn't really happen until she was farther along.
"Gags than throws up"
+Alisha Dee Plus you need to remember that when all is said and done this is still a kids show so there's only so much they can show, that being said I'm sure they'll find clever ways to reference it like they did with the five stage's of grief.
+Emerald Skies™ And to those people I say, CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGES!!!
The ones who would bitch about that would probably be feminists, the Anita Sarkesian ones.
*shudders*
Taking a beaten-to-death concept and not going the same place that any other episode would is one of the strong points of this series (see also: Brotherhooves Social), so the results here weren't at all surprising. I enjoyed the very meta/self-aware humor out of Pinkie Pie, and once again I have to give major props to the animators for clearly having a blast with their work.
So, yeah, not much else to say except it's good to finally see more Pinkie Pie. I've missed her.
One thing I can't help but wonder about this episode; would it have worked even better if Pinkie hadn't read the letter out loud right at the beginning? Like, having the episode be exactly the same, but have it so they don't actually say out loud what the secret is that Pinkie is keeping until right at the end! I know that everyone pretty much predicted that Shining Armour and Cadence were going to have a baby long before the episode aired, but I kind of like the idea of keeping the audience guessing. I can't help but think if they had went that direction it would have been a lot more entertaining for a lot of fans because you'd want for Pinkie not to spoil the surprise for Twilight, but you'd also almost want Pinkie to spill the beans to confirm what a lot of fans had pretty much predicted!
Did anyone else notice between time 7:05min - 7:15min where we see Ditzy/Derpy together with Dinky talking with a white pegasus mare with a bluish mane?
Plus, there was a stallion with Big Macintosh's design but with Caramel's colours and cutie mark walking by pulling a cart.
I really love to hear the new and also working on a review. I somehow hear some spoiler that their might be some episode which just look like this. I pretty enjoy it after all.
my favorite part of this episode is the ending when pinky said it was easy to keep it a secret, and look at the fourth-wall and shake her head.(it wasn´t)
1:08 i noticed last episode and in this episode, THANK YOU for mentioning this
Was I expecting Shining and Cadnce starting a family?
Absolutely! That's usually what happens when you marry someone, especially since your wife is the Princess of Love
They should name the Foal *STORMAGEDDON, DARK LORD OF ALL*
But Shining, have you talked to Cadence about Chrysalis yet?
I think that moment towards the end were Pinkie pops apart is the real standout moment for me. It's a matter of "Okay, there's 'she's being extra-pinkie pie today' and there's 'Channeling her Inner Discord.'" And I think it's a bit of a moment like the latter.
New headcanon! "Become a Draconequus/Being Along the lines of Discord" is a potential occupational hazard for an "Element of Laughter."
I kept thinking so many times there was going to be a moment where she spilled the beans but never did. Honestly it made me just as tense as her just seeing her build up pressure and just trying everything possible to keep her mouth closed. Loved the hilarious antics done by her and the rest of the ponies and of course the big reveal at then end with Pinkie making it through the secret. Like you said it yourself Dr Wolf, not a standing ovation like The Crusaders Of The Lost Mark but still worthy of its applause. ^-^
And best moment had to have been Fluttershy with the joke glasses on her tail. I don't know why but they made it work. ^O^
This ep has sooooo Many Friends (1994) refrences: let's start from the title the episode is called THE ONE WHERE Pinkie Pie knows and every title of friends is The one where.......
And Pinkie Pie was so Joey in this episode
as pinky pie, I find it difficult to keep secrets, or to explain it better....when I and my sister are trying to find presents to our parents and it is meant to be a secret, it is really hard to keep it that way.
Pinkie Pie was adorable in this, and i am looking forward to seeing the new foul,
great review Doc
+Prince Nightblade I'd think he'd meant pony baby
I knew about the "surprise" because the staff kept hinting at it. Was anyone else thinking of Gumby when Pinkie Pie fell apart at the end there? I also liked the way you ended this review. Very amusing.
Although I thought the plot was kind of cliche, the humor made up for it. Am I the only one who thought of the balloon garden scene from Return of Harmony when Pinkie Pie let out the secret right before Shining and Cadence showed up (around 4:31)?
I really really hope that this means we'll be seeing and finding out more about Shining Armor and Princess Cadence in future episodes.
Shining Armor reacting to the room was just adorable! :D
I've been thinking, since the Princess Skyla toy is already older than Poundcake and Pumpkin cake, do you think that means there will be a larger passage of time between this season and the next? Will the CMC grow up a bit too? Would be interesting.
Now we've got flurryheart so now what do we do
I didn't expect Shining Armor and Cadence to have a child just cause the princess Skyla toy came out so long ago. And really I was surprised that Pinkie was able to keep a secret for so long. It's really shown how far her character has come even if it was really hard for her
I always thought the Princes Skyla toy was a throwback to the G3 line as I've seen it with a baby Pinkie Pie doll that seemed to be made in a similar style (despite having G4 Pinkie pictured on the box art) as well as a couple other toys.
Its nice to see Shining was smart enough to tell Twilight before Cadance actually shows she is with child. Though I wonder if it will cause problems in the future, for if alicorns are immortal, then he might discovering his own mortality with some well place words. I wonder how Shinning will handle knowing his wife, sister (and possibly her friends since its stated she won't out live them and the elements powers could make them immortal) and now is daughter could live centuries beyond.
Its a popular story and I've think it was done well with the Asari and their spouse in Mass Effect universe, so I wonder if the writers of MLP can handle such story telling. As well as get a story centered around Shinning as he deals with the thoughts of mortality and drag in the Main 6 as well.
I just realized this episode reminds me a LOT of an animaniacs episode called Potty Emergency. The high speed animation and the extreme facial expressions and body language. The only difference is the premise, this one is just about keeping a secret while the animaniacs one is about maintaining public decency.
AHHH! How in equestria did you for get the two scenes with APPLEJACKS BIRTH SURTIFICAT??? With her being embarrassed and affaraid of her friends seeing her birth sitifacet in this episode, and her saying to applebloom "if your parents were here, they'd be so proud of you" while crying last episode! I am now %100 definite applejacks parents are dead.
The status quo changed for me, Doc. I never related to or super enjoyed pinkie pie before, but this episode completely changed that. Her reaction to keeping a secret is exactly what I go through, albeit my reactions are entirely internal where hers are external. Also, Crossbows confirmed!
This episode was pretty much Ponk being Ponk; and it was the hardest I've laughed at MLP.... I think ever!There seems to be so little appreciation for yester year cartoon humour at the moment. (If Brotherhooves was any indication...) So it was fun to see an episode that could have ended with Pinky looking the audience in the eye and saying "That's all folks!" :P
+Barrett Fenwick She actually kinda did that actually at the end.
yay back to the old wolf, i really like this one better then the old.
also think that this will happen in this season or sometime in season 6?
Well i didnt knew of Skyla but alot of people mentioned the secret being cadance being pregnant. Personally one of my favorite scenes was seeing Shining Armor's face after seeing the destroyed #1 issue of what i gues would be called Super Stallion
Even more interesting to note that most of the characters Pinkie interacted with had some knowledge or relation to the plot separate from Pinkie's direct interaction with them.
Like Featherweight with the newspaper, the furnature store guy with the crib, Mayor Mare etc. it's like they knew, too... (though Pinkie obviously realised the Mayor knew as she was having a similar struggle).
And Spike screwed up again, burning a 3,000,000Bit comic. Dammit, Spike.
do you know what the show Friends is? I'm pretty such the title reference to thst
One little trivia fact that I really loved is that the episode's title is a reference to the Friends episode "The One Where Joey Finds Out" which had the same premise.
I forgot to mention on my last comment with this episode what my favorite joke was. It was at the end when Cadance asks if it was hard and Pinkie say's it was a piece of cake. Then she break's the fouth wall shaking her head no. LOL!
the baby should not be a alicorn when born
+Scott Zimmerman if it is a colt, the fandom shall name him Mitch or Larson
+D HAROLD it yell
yeah, it should be a zebra
+Alfonso Rodríguez Martínez thats a good way to spark a lesson on latent and recessive genes.
no1important yup... Besides it -touches- molests on this topic of parents of similar breed having progeny of different breed
I was half expecting what happened, and half prepared to die laughing if the secret was something entirely different.
Pound and Pumpkin where diaperless in the last episode as well. You can see them during Diamond Tiara's song.
I for one loved seeing the CMC with their new cutie marks on full display when they approach Pinkie and ask if she's heard any good gossip. I also never really expected to hear the phrase "aunt Twilight" uttered in the show outside of a joke or teasing nickname.
I've always known that they would do a "royal baby" episode eventually. It was only a matter of time. I'm curious to see if the baby will be born as an alicorn, which would support my headcanon of Princess Celestia and Luna being more powerful and immortal because they were born as alicorns instead of being ascended alicorns like Twilight and Cadence.
its 2 in the morning and i had ti get up jst to ask this ... what was in cadance and shinings bags the brought with them
there was like a dozen of them. and ponies rarely ware any clothes so what would be in them
i guess since they had a thing to go to that got moved they may have needed stuf but they are royalty why not have excess stuff shiped back with gards and there royal escort or whatever
i would realy like to know whats in there bags cant be to much because spike carried all of them at once
say has anyone heard that cadance and shing had a sumit to get to before they went to twilights castel?i tought finaly they do somting. but yeah a foal ? why do i think we are getting a baby cakes episode for this one as well one episode and then back to the royal background. i call it royal background because the royal Family spents most of the 5 seasons in the backround which is a shame because they seem like great caracters i am aware of Luna episodes but some episodes focsing on celstia or cadance would be nice what do you guys think?
Wait, was the "balloon friends" scene a callback to the Discord episodes?
Holy crap! No wonder that freaked out Pinkie!
When I found out the premise of the episode was that pinkie was keeping a secret about shining and cadence, I eventually had the idea that maybe they were having a baby. As soon as pinkie said the word baby at the start of the episode, I flipped out. My theory was correct, and I'm happy that it was.
I completely thought that the episode would take a cue from Friends (where the title obviously did) and become a story about both parties hiding the fact that they knew the other knew about the surprise and going through with it anyway. I'm sure it would have been cute, but likely would have been clichéd.
My favorite facial moment was when Pinkie said "they're going to have a lot more to take care of soon". Something about the face and voice combo just cracked me up.
Also, I too immediately thought of that Family Guy moment when they had that balloon-thing on screen.
I think the episode could've been better, if Mrs. Cake told Pinkie to keep it a secret, before Pinkie yelled "A BABY!?", that way the audience doesn't know what's up.
+Dashing Jack Yeah I agree, Subtly and stuff (*then remembers episode*)
My pet theory (at least at the moment) is that Shining Armor and Cadance set all of this up as a test for Pinkie because they want to invite her to be their royal nanny.
We saw the twins for a moment in DTs song last episode i think they where pamper free then. I guess since Earth and Peigsi ponies have to use there mouths to change them they might potty train as fast as the can
Really good review doc. Loved the little point of the twins.
i like the balloons of the character calling back to the season 2 premiere with the balloons discord had made to look like pinkie's friends to trick her
Yes, I did notice that Pound and Pumpkin Cake are no longer wearing diapers. Also, I think Silver Quill's *clears throat* "joke" about why Cadence and Shining Armor not being at the Gala in "Make New Friends But Keep Discord" may have turned out as a lucky guess in his review of said episode.
Within a second we see Shining Armor's character when he entered his guest room. That was amazing enough for me.
we all knew what they were doing in the crystal empire
and with shining armor actions when twilight showed him his rome makes me think that it was a long time coming for cadence to have a child
also it was quite amusing seeing twilight at the end still have to piec together that they were having a baby
i realy loved that moment when she figured it out when she reared up and plaped her wings, it just seemed very natural to me and i really liked that
I swear, the final act seemed like an abridged episode of Blue's Clues to me. Twilight was basically Steve in his Thinking Chair at the climax of each episode.
Having a baby would open a lot of story Ideas for the writer.One being having twilight or spike after them.Next, pinkie bringing the twins too meet the new foal.Or how cadence is doing a few weeks before the kid comes.
I would have liked to see what the reaction for the community if the actual secret hadn't even been made known to the audience until the rest of the cast found out as well. I think that would have been harder hitting.
It didn't make sense to me when the episode first came out as Cadence didn't look pregnant when she and Shining Armor made the announcement. Either it was early days for her or she cast a very strong illusion spell around herself so when anyone outside the Crystal Empire looked at her, they don't see the tummy that says she was with child.
I honestly hope we get to see more of Cadence and Shining Armor in following episodes. It would be amazing too see them act a little less perfect throughout the process of having a foal. Shining got some characterization this episode, but Cadence is still practically flawless. I would like to see her struggle with the change. I would personally enjoy an episode where after the foal is born, Cadence realizes that being a mother is in a whole different league than being a foalsitter.
I was less focused on the baby announcement, mostly cuz I've seen skyla and saw the title, and more focused on the humor. this episode had me laughing so many times in what might be Andrea Libman's best performance when complimented by the amazing animation
I thought that G M Berrow did a good job for her first episode. I can't wait to see more from her.
I was a little surprised that despite all the setup for the foal, that Shining and Cadance weren't there for most of it.
The biggest standout moment for me is definitely the animation of the episode, particularly with the tube man.
for me the episode was kind of meh....on the other hand what i FIND interresting though is the fact that the cuty marks of the cmc have changed ;-) it was first the shield, then a symbol and ontop another symbol. for example sweety bloom had a note, inside a star on the shield. now the note was gone. also for the other 2 ;-)
+GirlPainting They didn't change, those are their official marks, if it was different at all it was either a case of them being to small to animate it properly or for that part to show up, or a basic animation error.
It's Sweetie Belle not Sweety Bloom.
They mentioned Maretonia again, the dutchess herself is probably her OBGYN.
Just from experience, that kind of secret is HARD to keep. especially for 9 months! I love how they did this episode! i was dying the entire time, like "OMG I KNOW I KNOW!" " YEA I REMEMBER THAT LMAO" "OMG PINKIE ME TOO!!" After reading and loving the fanfic story 'Bride of Discord' by disneyfanatic2364, I had always hoped the writers would do a baby for the couple. Name wise isn't a big deal to me, so long as she's or he's not a background character. Make the foul like the cmc or has the pregnant cadence be involved with the season climax, idk.
For a moment I thought Pinkie was going to spoil the news, but in way that her friends would have tought she was the one who was having a baby.
By the ways I had nerver heard about princess Skayla before, and even though being an episode with the potencial to change the series, it just felt average, or how I like to say "pasó sin pena ni gloria" (went without pain or glory".
Also, I want to see Cadence through her pregnancy! Those lovebirds deserve some development.
Clever 'Roger Rabbit tribute' in the meltdown shot of Pinkie. Definitely a canonization of (one part of) the fanfic video series: "Bride of Discord." (the baby-angle was part of the conflict set-up in that story.) "Antie Twilight?" Love to follow that arc.
So THAT'S where the Skyla thing came from, now that I think about It, I remember back In the days before Ponies entered my life seeing the commercial on It. Obviously forgot for a reason...
Do you really have to spoil by showing muted footage?
I was actually afraid it would turn out Pinkie mis-read the letter and Cadence wasn't pregnant after all, so Pinkie went through all that stress for nothing. It was a relief when it turned out they were expecting.
Still no brother Shy. I am glad they show the cmc with their cutie-marks as to show last weeks ep was not a dream like it seem to me. And these is a good reference for when you are trying to not spoil a story but really want to talk about it. I acted a bit like these last week when I watch the new ep before my brother and tried to get him to watch it so I could talk about it with him, with out spoiling it for him. By they way any one else saw that Featherweight was missing his cutie-mark?
I just loved how Pinkie freaked out when anyone mentioned "surprise" or "baby"
Also, how can you not see the significance of a giraffe balloon? It might be huge foreshadowing for season 6.
I thought this episode was amazing. It may be my favorite episode because it's so funny. That joke at the end where Pinkie says keeping the secret was a piece of cake and then tells the audience it wasn't made me laugh more than any joke of the whole show. By the way, when Shining Armor and Cadence have their baby, it had better be only one. They had better not do what Dora the Explorer did and have a boy and a girl. Cindy Morrow could either use the cliche (One Bad Apple) or break the cliche (Sisterhooves Social).
This is why Pinkie Pie is the Deadpool of the MLP world. She's great at mugging for the camera, and the collateral damage tends to rocket when she gets emotional. ;)
i cant believe that they made two series changing episodes in a row in the middle of a season
Must resist urge to say first...
Anywho, this episode was basically, a field day for the animators. The massive amount of facial expression kept my attention half of the time but I feel it was, to say the least..rushed. Yes I know that most episodes follow this same issue but, there was so much that happened all at one that I lost track. It was nice to see some development on Shining and the Cake foals though. I just hope that this new "baby" concept isn't forget ten for another two seasons and or rushed as well. I was somewhat relieved to know that this episode didn't follow the same cliche' and that it was simply, a crazy Pinkie episode. Though I hope the writers do more development on Pinkie, family/ background wise. But I believe not bad G.M Berrow, not bad...Thank you for listing to my thought. /)* Brohoof *
Funny thing is, I knew it was gonna happen at some point. I knew the writers were being too quiet about Shining Armor and Princess Cadence starting a family. The thing that bugs me about it though was the episode description gave it away, although I already knew it was gonna happen. Overall, I think it could have been handled better, like not tell us what the note said and have us find out by surprise so we'd be thrown back and forth not knowing the ending.
I thought that the "secret" would turn out to NOT involve little ones... though, part of that may have been due to my mistaken impression that "Skyla" was a fanon creation, and not based on merchandise...
I have a feeling that Princess Skyla will out age the Cakes, seeing as the promotion for the toy has her as CMC age (bit younger). I guess they can easily chalk that up to Alicorns aging faster.
well you did it! the first use of the oblivious family guy joke that everyone will shurly use.