As a German i can say: The Sahra Wagenknecht Party (BSW) positions itself as a political force addressing societal issues that are often considered taboo by other parties. It advocates for job protection, fair resource distribution, and a climate policy that doesn’t overwhelm citizens. The party also tackles uncomfortable but necessary issues, such as the effects of globalization and uncontrolled immigration on social structures. By addressing these often difficult topics, BSW offers solutions to reduce societal tensions and counteract radicalization. Its approach aims to maintain social peace and foster a broader political debate that addresses the concerns of many people. Not to forget the unbroken effort of diplomacy and peace without double morals.
Her stance on NATO and the EU is absolutely ludicrous. It would completely unravel the security landscape in Europe and cause massive tensions with Germany's neighbors. There is nothing "stabilizing" about her party plan.
@@JeffPar50 the party advocates for close cooperation among European nations but opposes the centralized structures of the European Union in its current form. They seek a decentralized approach that preserve national sovereignty. Regarding NATO, the BSW calls for an independent European security architecture free from U.S. dominance and criticizes the alliance's present orientation.
This is a totally weird format. 2 native english speakers based in Berlin discuss German politics and one of them interviews a native German speaker based in the UK
@thevale2456 the thing is those "some Ukrainians" celebrated it in Kiev center. In addition to that, he is considered a national hero in Ukraine. Is there any other country allowing this to happen in their capital?
no one said that. however you are by definition far right if you reduce a complex topic to immigration alone. Spend the effort in proper integration or law enforcement instead.
@@nick0taylor but why is being anti-Nato classified as far right? It can not be only because there is no left party with the same opinion. what's the reason why being anti nato makes you far right? I would say it makes you far left
US + 200 billion , EU + 100 billion by taxpayers to Giant weapons companies for Expanding NATO military 13 to 32 states to Russian doorstep ,, Useless + Expensive + Dangerous ,, Humankind need peace
@@nick0taylor All left wing parties (parties of democratic socialism and eco-socialism) are more or less against NATO. Center-left Socialdemocrats and Green parties are today mostly pro-NATO but not all... some of those who are not pro-NATO/don't want their countries to be a part of NATO are: Swiss Socialdemocrats, Swiss Greens, Austrian Socialdemocrats, Austrian Greens, Swedish Greens, Iceland Greens with the Prime Minister, more or less all Irish parties, Green Party of the US...
Could you think of a an example of a National Socialist party of Workers in German who wanted to fight progressist degeneracy and claimed to defend German workers against foreign interests?
@@stephenhill545 They don't ignore consequences of global warming, they are just proposing sensible ways of dealing with them, instead of weaponizing issue of global warming for political agendas and dark agendas like killing growth of western countries like radical leftists do🤷♂️..
Interesting developments in Germany lately. I have wished for a few decades now, that Germans would put down the guilt of ww2 crimes and start to take a healthy measure of pride.
What an absurd assessment of the policy positions in terms of 'left or right'. Anything bad, 'right wing policy'. The more PC positions 'oh yes, that's obviously left wing'. Please think more about these things, dear god.
Naming a party after a person is already off to a bad start for me. Also being anti-woke is just anti-human rights and not wanting to teach your countries history.
Sarah Wagenknecht very much says things, not all, similar to AFD. All this left- right stuff I find really annoying by now. It's just simple common sense.
We lack a party like this one in Spain, I disagree on some aspects of her ideology and foreign policy, but the idea of finally having a political party who looks after the working class instead of focusing on woke nonsense is great!
Before voting for a populist party like this one, remember to ask yourself 2 questions: 1: Do they actually have a solution to the problem that you care about, or are they just complaining about it? 2: If they have a solution, will it actually fix the problem? Is the solution even possible and legal to do?
@EdwardLindon All I'm saying is that the left used to focus on improving worker's conditions, reducing inequality, social housing and improving public services. Their policies had a real impact on middle class people on their daily lives. Now it's not the case anymore because their priorities switched to climate change (that is a problem but needs to be approached in a different way), gender, identity politics and open borders... I don't feel represented anymore by them and I think I'm not the only one
Is classifying BSW as right or left how people decide whether they like its policies or not? Is right/left of interest to anyone other than the establishment media commentariat? In a rapidly changing 21st century, so many of the premises in this discussion seem to be outdated. Why is criticism of NATO or the EU automatically “pro-Russia”? Why is concern about the cost impact of climate change policies on the working class populist? Isn’t the real story that the policies pursued by ruling western elites for the past 40 years have failed the majority of their citizens who are now searching for alternatives? To classify and critique those alternatives from the perspective of the paradigm that has failed is to defend the status quo.
@@bizarrocker Why should the biggest EU country's government be pro NATO or pro Russia. Does not need to Pick one. Europe is a bigger and potentially stronger thing Than any of these two. Europe shouldn't and Will not serve these.
Listening to this people I see that American tax money are well spent. I fell safe here in N. America with Germans like them protecting my interest. 👏👏👏
Climate change policies cannot be watered down and need urgent implementation if we are to have a liveable planet for our children and grandchildren. The problem is individuals in democracies don’t want to change their lifestyle if it has an economic effect on them. In the end, if we don’t all change there won’t be any future for the human race.
I don’t think we will make it. I just hope it would be fine where I am before I die. No will at all to focus on climate change. Green Party candidates were threatened and beaten last year. I just hope at least no racist pro Russian, anti nato party will be elected
@@ZETA14.88 no. that is not a rational assertion. The word "woke" is measurably overused by extremists on both sides, as is the word fascist. so maybe you're proving a point I didn't even need to say
BSW - keep going further left and eventually you circle around to far right. Start fanning the flames of hatred against marginalised groups and you have joined the far right. The rest of your policies are irrelevant at that point. It doesn’t matter how left they may be.
@@PeterJordansonn look at the bigger picture: it’s clear she is aligned directly with Putin. She claims Germany is a US vassal yet puppets every wish and talking point of the old master who wants to re-vassalise Eastern Europe. Its existence is clearly a geopolitical move by another imperialist power. The democratic left abandoned the poor and working class and need to reform, but to blame „woke“ on it is a dangerous game and right out of the Kremlin playbook rather than an honest attempt to govern responsibly.
Hating marginalized groups is absolutely a thing leftists are historically very good at. Although I think the whole left/right scale is completely useless and tries to simplify things that shouldn't be simplified.
@@Aaliyashi well it depends on which left you’re speaking of. The East Bloc & Stalinist view was indeed that homosexuality etc was „Western decadence“ and heavily punished. It was also antisemitic. For the Scandinavian left, this is quite the opposite. So you’re right, but for only a part of the left.
I find it a bit strange that there is no left in Germany, as you are describing it. It's either center-left like SPD or the far left. I wonder how you would call a left, even further away with more social equity and more state economy. Far-far-left? 😂
Everything lefter than SPD is Communism, everything lefter than CDU is Fascism here in Germany. That's why I'm so glad, this great person with awesome ideas for this Land finally had the guts to create her own party.
Very helpful on the whole but Walker’s headline statement that some of their policies are far right was very misleading. He himself, when slapping simple left-right labels on each specific policy they went through didn’t label a single one as anything other than ‘right’, even immigration. She’s clear she wants controlled immigration and in her debate with Alice Weidel of the AFD, strongly, and rightly, denounced their more extreme position as ‘unmenschlich’ - inhuman. I’m left wing and Asian and plenty like me feel that’s a sensible majority position, not remotely far right. What I do find v worrying: her pro-Putin policies are alarming - a massive turn-off, and although she’s right some green policies will hit the poorest hardest, there have to be better ways of dealing with that. I also think the presenter and guests underplayed a key aspect of her appeal: the critical importance of ‘woke’ excesses, those gut, common sense issues that most rational people of all political stripes feel the new ‘progressive’ orthodoxy, with its new hierarchy of actually regressive identity politics has made taboo to even talk about. The key one being the defence of the hard-won sex-based rights of women, children and LGB people from the demands of trans ideologues eg indoctrination-free education, single-sex spaces and rights like sports, prisons, refuges, toilets, changing rooms, lesbian-only groups etc. As a left-wing feminist, I know thousands more like me made politically homeless or disaffected party remainers working at grassroots to change this madness from within and we’ve made huge strides in the UK, but it actually affects everyone when our fundamental realities are overturned by top-down ideologues. The BSW has correctly identified there are many lifelong lefties who hunger for proper leftism: genuine social justice based on a class analysis, that delivers real material and economic equality, rather than shallow identity politics that thinks you can magic change through language. I think there are people like us all across Europe and the US, but we don’t yet have anything similar BSW to vote for, and I’d never vote for a party that’s so dangerously pro-Putin.
Well-written. I’m not on the left myself, but I have time for non-identitarian leftists. But you are in the minority, at least in terms of political expression.
Let's not forget that BSW, like all the other parties, accept donations from "Big Donors", coporations and such. The Left Party (Linke) does not, and is the only party that does not. Also, the chairman and woman of Die Linke have reduced their own salary to the amount of an average German salary (2,850 €/month (net salary)) and donate the "excess amount". If that doesn't "say" a lot, I don't know what does - actions speak a lot louder than words. I, personally, would never be able to support a party that has "right elements", especially not if they do not understand that you can not control dictators. You can not make them your friend. You can not talk to them upon the grounds of common sense, it is not possible.
Good info about this new party. It is a shame though that the conversation goal was to ‘label’ the party; with labels from the last century… When you clarify the party’s stands, rather than stigmatizing it as ‘far-….’ or disruptive party, it would be more helpful to check how this connects with what is done or said by party representatives. On a positive note, this party may well nibble off votes from AfD.
im german and neither bsw or afd have far right politics. i agree to the terms of far right politics if we call out every party that has used the same positions ins their past of which the cdu and spd are guilty of.
I would like you to discuss how it is still possible that Britain still has a monarchy in power , even after their wars showed how weak the ideas turned out. Why is it that British people have not gotten rid of their king and their monarchy who Lords over them? it seems to me that that is the worst kind of cast system. I would like to hear your ideas for it and against it. My understanding is that the British economy is not doing so well and yet, King Charles doesn’t pay any income taxes on his vast properties.
Thank you very much for so informative discussion. Its very good to understand what is happening in the political field in Germany, especially if you are not German and do not live in Germany.
Adding your name to a political party somehow sounds initially not a good move........ It means your political party is VERY FIXED and based only on Sarah Wagenknecht´s views or political views if you like.. So not a good start . but watch this space
*We are told by the German commentator, Katja Hoyer, that Sahra Wagenknecht is very much of the Left in the tradition of the Deutsche Demokratische Republik where she was born and grew up while the DW political correspondent, Matthew Moore, tells us that she is very like the former Scottish National Party's Nicola Sturgeon or the right-wing comical conservative failed prime minister, the buffoon Tory joke, Boris Johnson. Poles apart. Which is it, I wonder.*
Left, right ,middle ? I think , Wagenknecht tries to free herself from any drawer. She walks her own special way, giving a home to people who became political homeless because of the events of the last 5 years.
On the one hand, DW can be methodic (constructive) in discussing German domestic politics. On the other hand, if it is about Georgia, it is always about the "pro-Russian Georgian ruling party" against pro-EU protesters from the center of Tbilisi.
Certainly interesting times for Germany and the world. I'd hazard a guess that the prefix 'far-" is out by wide margin. Will we see the left hand shaking the right hand while the old-timers smoke and cry in their beer?
Germany - don’t go down this self destructive path. Don’t do what we in the US did. Stay the course of democracy- not oligarchy. There’s a lot of amazing technology around the corner you’ll want to be alive and healthy for.
These parties are supported by human beings with their own brains and freedom to choose, and you call it "wrong" lol. This is why democracy will grow more toxic and self destructive with time: the value systems that let democracies thrive are being abandoned in the West.
What's your point?? The Soviet Union dissolved and all USSR satellite countries regained their freedom and sovereignty except America didn't leave and yes, EU/NATO is basically a US vassal entity for US hegemony that likes to fight proxy wars far away from its own shores. When the cold war ended the raison d'etre of NATO and US presence also became obsolete. People in Europe don't believe that the US has Europe's best interest at heart and that Europe should be in charge of it's own destiny.
She needs to learn more history and science. Without nato, Poland was invaded. iPCC is so low ball, climate change is an existential crisis. I miss mirkel. And her lack of understanding of the world is astonishing.
It would be really nice if people, or at least experts/professionals would stop with the "left" vs. "right" spectrum -- one dimension only. There is not one criterion sufficient to categorize a party. At least there needs to be individual liberties vs. autoritarian and laissez faire vs. socialism, but in reality one should be brave enough to accept that you need a whole bundle of dimensions to characterize any politician, let alone the whole party -- including ones that deal with realism and hoesty. Journalism needs to work both on courage/ambition what to address (though relative to most countries the German collectively funded media is good -- not up to the new challenges though [combination of social media and massive influence campaigns]) and competence to deliver. And one important very basic lesson from the last decade or two of well funded influence campaigns: call out the lies in plain language. People still don't like people who lie, but they can be easily influenced into thinking everyone was lying and there was really no difference anymore -- even if the reality is people trying to be honest on one side and a massive disinformation campaign on the other, let alone for everything in between. Of course, schools are failing even harder than (not-for-profit [for profit media is not failing to be helpful, they never were meant to]) media.
I think She just want to take the best possible deal on the free world market in each case. And not fight wars for other's interest. Germany and Europe is absolutly in the position to decide for itself and take only the best offers regardless from Whitch side IT comes from. An authonom Europe would be safer and more prosperous.
You mean, after all that we were told. In a war, everybody lies. RT is the enemy broadcast now, and is blocked in the EU. In this condition, believe nothing, listen to DW, but also to at least 10 other channels.
I've seen left leaning voters switching over to the far right due to some social progressive policies being enacted by a left party. Some people lean left on economy or labor, however are pretty much opposed to certain immigration and progressive policies. I would like to avoid labeling but there are plenty of sexists and racists in the left as well.
BSW is not new. Sahra has been around for ages and has never done anything good. This feels like advertising for BSW as a far-left Putin-oriented extremist alternative to AfD. "enigmatic", "star appeal", "charisma"? wtf
Wikipedia can help you: "Deutsche Welle , commonly shortened to DW, is a German public, state-owned international broadcaster funded by the German federal tax budget."
a relatively balanced report from DW here that adds value. I don't think you would get this if they were talking about the 'far right', BSW sound like a national socialist party to me.
@@stephenhill545 It's not possible. Socialism is about class, not about nation. The principle is proletarian internationalism. Nationalists are conservatives, not revolutionary.
@@stephenhill545 she leans on the gdr part since it was it own nation had its identity but was still a soviet puppet state and had its influences from it.
@@stephenhill545 “National Socialist Workers Party” has an eerie ring to it. Germans need a National Dialogue ignoring current affiliations (they are dissolving anyway) and hasten the consensus for a new centre of gravity in politics, lest a long phase of confused polarisation prevents necessary reforms
AfD is not "anti-foreigner" but wants a controlled immigration, that means borders. The idea of open borders is self destructive, why do countries do this to themselves?
As a German i can say: The Sahra Wagenknecht Party (BSW) positions itself as a political force addressing societal issues that are often considered taboo by other parties. It advocates for job protection, fair resource distribution, and a climate policy that doesn’t overwhelm citizens. The party also tackles uncomfortable but necessary issues, such as the effects of globalization and uncontrolled immigration on social structures. By addressing these often difficult topics, BSW offers solutions to reduce societal tensions and counteract radicalization. Its approach aims to maintain social peace and foster a broader political debate that addresses the concerns of many people. Not to forget the unbroken effort of diplomacy and peace without double morals.
Yes, I think so. It is a voice of common sense in Germany.
@VSP4591 Yea 100% the voice of reason and common Sense. 💜
Wants everything but not pay for it ? lol
Her stance on NATO and the EU is absolutely ludicrous. It would completely unravel the security landscape in Europe and cause massive tensions with Germany's neighbors. There is nothing "stabilizing" about her party plan.
@@JeffPar50 the party advocates for close cooperation among European nations but opposes the centralized structures of the European Union in its current form. They seek a decentralized approach that preserve national sovereignty. Regarding NATO, the BSW calls for an independent European security architecture free from U.S. dominance and criticizes the alliance's present orientation.
This is a totally weird format.
2 native english speakers based in Berlin discuss German politics and one of them interviews a native German speaker based in the UK
🤣🤣🤣🤣 this because how stupide American Intelligence try to control the media
Hmmm… there are People all over the World who are interested in International Politics you know?
left coalition
It means ''Soft Power''
Absolutely, peculiar method ??
Everything is far-something for DW, since they are so removed from reality and the real world.
I know little about German politics, but I generally know when I’m being sold a pup and I didn’t get that impression from this discussion.
@@ariseandgonow4319 This "discussion" was designed to support your confirmation bias.
You are right .
I observe that DW sings the USA song ...
Far from the reality of German land or native issues ...
Why do you sit and watch 40 minutes of something you believe removed from reality?
@CIndy_The_Skulldo you really think this person watched the video?
It is very ironic to see DW talking about "far-right" in Germany right after Ukraine's actual far-right held a march celebrating Bandera's birthday
What’s that got to do with the price of fish?
Yes some Ukrainians are Neo-Fascists, as are many small sections of populations across the world.
@thevale2456 the thing is those "some Ukrainians" celebrated it in Kiev center. In addition to that, he is considered a national hero in Ukraine. Is there any other country allowing this to happen in their capital?
Nothing wrong in looking for the welfare of the country and not of foreign interests.
Security interests are "welfare of the country" though.
Everything wrong if it's Socialism. Very very wrong when someone wants to alienate you from the world.
She's literally pursuing foreign interests a.k.a. the Kremlin's.
''Forieign interests? Ukraine is practically your next door neighbour! Don't you care?
@@Elfdustify autocrats loving people only care about their interests I guess
This conversation underscores the problem of placing political views on a one dimensional left/right axis. There are multiple dimensions to politics.
Wanting to protect your own boarders is not FAR RIGHT
Exactly; NATO protects our borders too and it is support by left political parties as well.
no one said that. however you are by definition far right if you reduce a complex topic to immigration alone. Spend the effort in proper integration or law enforcement instead.
@@Fishstick Using the far right label makes you far left by definition. Those are the rules now.
@@AurediumRiptide NATO protects German borders from what, Poland or Austria?
@@FishstickCitizens should not be paying for charity they did not want to give.
How is being anti NATO classified as far right? … wouldn’t that be left?
Please tell me a single left leaning (non-communist) party that's anti nato
@@nick0taylor but why is being anti-Nato classified as far right? It can not be only because there is no left party with the same opinion. what's the reason why being anti nato makes you far right? I would say it makes you far left
@@nick0taylor anarchists??
US + 200 billion , EU + 100 billion by taxpayers to Giant weapons companies for Expanding NATO military 13 to 32 states to Russian doorstep ,, Useless + Expensive + Dangerous ,, Humankind need peace
@@nick0taylor All left wing parties (parties of democratic socialism and eco-socialism) are more or less against NATO. Center-left Socialdemocrats and Green parties are today mostly pro-NATO but not all... some of those who are not pro-NATO/don't want their countries to be a part of NATO are: Swiss Socialdemocrats, Swiss Greens, Austrian Socialdemocrats, Austrian Greens, Swedish Greens, Iceland Greens with the Prime Minister, more or less all Irish parties, Green Party of the US...
A party of the workers supporting policies that would help workers. Oh, the horror!!!
Just like The USSR and Stalin? lol
You mean like the National Socialist German Workers' Party?
Could you think of a an example of a National Socialist party of Workers in German who wanted to fight progressist degeneracy and claimed to defend German workers against foreign interests?
"Basic common sense Party ", that's what the party is. People across Europe are rebelling against woke insanity.
Not a soft cell fan then.
Is it common sense to ignore the consequences of global warming?
That is code word for far right authoritarianism is rising in Germany again. Shameful.
@@stephenhill545 They don't ignore consequences of global warming, they are just proposing sensible ways of dealing with them, instead of weaponizing issue of global warming for political agendas and dark agendas like killing growth of western countries like radical leftists do🤷♂️..
@@stephenhill545 they are not ignoring it, they are proposing sensible ways of dealing with the issue, that's not ignoring it..
The very understanding i got from this discussion is that "i am done with mainstream media"
Interesting developments in Germany lately. I have wished for a few decades now, that Germans would put down the guilt of ww2 crimes and start to take a healthy measure of pride.
Thanks to Richard, Matt and Katja for the excellent analysis, You have persuaded me to vote BSW
Sarah Wagenknecht - ich liebe dich ! Alles schòne ❤❤
As sad as it sounds, this is one of the very few authentic politicians in a higher position in the Bundestag.
What an absurd assessment of the policy positions in terms of 'left or right'. Anything bad, 'right wing policy'. The more PC positions 'oh yes, that's obviously left wing'. Please think more about these things, dear god.
DW is usually quite superficial, but I do come by sometimes, just to check.
That’s how the establishment across the West thinks, unfortunately.
Naming a party after a person is already off to a bad start for me.
Also being anti-woke is just anti-human rights and not wanting to teach your countries history.
Sarah Wagenknecht very much says things, not all, similar to AFD. All this left- right stuff I find really annoying by now. It's just simple common sense.
We lack a party like this one in Spain, I disagree on some aspects of her ideology and foreign policy, but the idea of finally having a political party who looks after the working class instead of focusing on woke nonsense is great!
Before voting for a populist party like this one, remember to ask yourself 2 questions:
1: Do they actually have a solution to the problem that you care about, or are they just complaining about it?
2: If they have a solution, will it actually fix the problem? Is the solution even possible and legal to do?
@@thegreatdane3627 There is never one political party with all solutions to a country's problems only evil and lesser evil.
"Woke nonsense" for you is self-interest for marginal groups. All you're saying is that you don't care about certain classes of people.
@EdwardLindon All I'm saying is that the left used to focus on improving worker's conditions, reducing inequality, social housing and improving public services. Their policies had a real impact on middle class people on their daily lives. Now it's not the case anymore because their priorities switched to climate change (that is a problem but needs to be approached in a different way), gender, identity politics and open borders... I don't feel represented anymore by them and I think I'm not the only one
Lucky Germans... They actually have a left party to vote for.
DW with studio in London 🤣. Where , in MI6 headquater ?
Is classifying BSW as right or left how people decide whether they like its policies or not? Is right/left of interest to anyone other than the establishment media commentariat? In a rapidly changing 21st century, so many of the premises in this discussion seem to be outdated. Why is criticism of NATO or the EU automatically “pro-Russia”? Why is concern about the cost impact of climate change policies on the working class populist? Isn’t the real story that the policies pursued by ruling western elites for the past 40 years have failed the majority of their citizens who are now searching for alternatives? To classify and critique those alternatives from the perspective of the paradigm that has failed is to defend the status quo.
Yes, warmongering right left populist etc adjectives loaded through established media puppetry....
anti-NATO and pro Russia, definitely not suspicious at all.
where did it say pro Russia
@@Leaf8823 anti-nato is pro russia
Someone should look into the economy of the party and their leaders, got a feeling there is some russian money there...
@@bizarrockerWhy do you think that it is not possible to exist as anti-NATO and anti-Russia, as a neutral and independent country?
@@bizarrocker
Why should the biggest EU country's government be pro NATO or pro Russia. Does not need to Pick one. Europe is a bigger and potentially stronger thing Than any of these two. Europe shouldn't and Will not serve these.
Beyond Left or Right, lets add Up and Down! We need more dimensions to catch more nuances of the political spectrum!
There is Centre left, Center right, and Centre
Far left. Far right. Blah blah blah blah
Listening to this people I see that American tax money are well spent. I fell safe here in N. America with Germans like them protecting my interest. 👏👏👏
My spinal reflex to a German political party which is "both nationalist and socialist" isn't positive.
Pray tell…..why? 😂
honestly, she sounds like the personality type of a cult leader. not the fun kind
So...charismatic German national socialist?
@@kx.io7 the guy with the lil mustach was never a socialist. Any historian will tell you that
There's nothing right wing about these politics. What is that human weasel on about?
Pure traditional left wing party.
Democracy means anyone can contest election ? Why you are worried ? Call then for an interview? That is media responsibility?
Anyone not supporting Ukraine is disrupting German politics and DW will decamoaign them. What a democracy and proper use of public funded media
In Canada we have the CBC 😂😂
Climate change policies cannot be watered down and need urgent implementation if we are to have a liveable planet for our children and grandchildren. The problem is individuals in democracies don’t want to change their lifestyle if it has an economic effect on them. In the end, if we don’t all change there won’t be any future for the human race.
I don’t think we will make it. I just hope it would be fine where I am before I die. No will at all to focus on climate change. Green Party candidates were threatened and beaten last year. I just hope at least no racist pro Russian, anti nato party will be elected
Please read the new SCIENTIFIC investigations and stop repeating ACTIVIST nonsense.
russia benefits directly from global warming as the north sea opens up to shipping
It was great to hear new voice from Germany!
she uses the word woke. nobody intelligent or sane uses that word
@@HomeFromFarAway dismissive remark is sign of fascism
@@ZETA14.88 no. that is not a rational assertion. The word "woke" is measurably overused by extremists on both sides, as is the word fascist. so maybe you're proving a point I didn't even need to say
BSW is beyond left and right.
BSW - keep going further left and eventually you circle around to far right.
Start fanning the flames of hatred against marginalised groups and you have joined the far right. The rest of your policies are irrelevant at that point. It doesn’t matter how left they may be.
It's a centrist party. Economically centre left and centre right when it comes to identity politics.
Zero evidence to think than BSW is more right wong than CDU
@@PeterJordansonn look at the bigger picture: it’s clear she is aligned directly with Putin. She claims Germany is a US vassal yet puppets every wish and talking point of the old master who wants to re-vassalise Eastern Europe.
Its existence is clearly a geopolitical move by another imperialist power. The democratic left abandoned the poor and working class and need to reform, but to blame „woke“ on it is a dangerous game and right out of the Kremlin playbook rather than an honest attempt to govern responsibly.
Hating marginalized groups is absolutely a thing leftists are historically very good at. Although I think the whole left/right scale is completely useless and tries to simplify things that shouldn't be simplified.
@@Aaliyashi well it depends on which left you’re speaking of. The East Bloc & Stalinist view was indeed that homosexuality etc was „Western decadence“ and heavily punished. It was also antisemitic. For the Scandinavian left, this is quite the opposite. So you’re right, but for only a part of the left.
I find it a bit strange that there is no left in Germany, as you are describing it. It's either center-left like SPD or the far left. I wonder how you would call a left, even further away with more social equity and more state economy. Far-far-left? 😂
Everything lefter than SPD is Communism, everything lefter than CDU is Fascism here in Germany.
That's why I'm so glad, this great person with awesome ideas for this Land finally had the guts to create her own party.
Very helpful on the whole but Walker’s headline statement that some of their policies are far right was very misleading. He himself, when slapping simple left-right labels on each specific policy they went through didn’t label a single one as anything other than ‘right’, even immigration. She’s clear she wants controlled immigration and in her debate with Alice Weidel of the AFD, strongly, and rightly, denounced their more extreme position as ‘unmenschlich’ - inhuman. I’m left wing and Asian and plenty like me feel that’s a sensible majority position, not remotely far right. What I do find v worrying: her pro-Putin policies are alarming - a massive turn-off, and although she’s right some green policies will hit the poorest hardest, there have to be better ways of dealing with that.
I also think the presenter and guests underplayed a key aspect of her appeal: the critical importance of ‘woke’ excesses, those gut, common sense issues that most rational people of all political stripes feel the new ‘progressive’ orthodoxy, with its new hierarchy of actually regressive identity politics has made taboo to even talk about. The key one being the defence of the hard-won sex-based rights of women, children and LGB people from the demands of trans ideologues eg indoctrination-free education, single-sex spaces and rights like sports, prisons, refuges, toilets, changing rooms, lesbian-only groups etc. As a left-wing feminist, I know thousands more like me made politically homeless or disaffected party remainers working at grassroots to change this madness from within and we’ve made huge strides in the UK, but it actually affects everyone when our fundamental realities are overturned by top-down ideologues. The BSW has correctly identified there are many lifelong lefties who hunger for proper leftism: genuine social justice based on a class analysis, that delivers real material and economic equality, rather than shallow identity politics that thinks you can magic change through language. I think there are people like us all across Europe and the US, but we don’t yet have anything similar BSW to vote for, and I’d never vote for a party that’s so dangerously pro-Putin.
Well-written. I’m not on the left myself, but I have time for non-identitarian leftists. But you are in the minority, at least in terms of political expression.
"My Führer, we are so back"
Damn that's sad
That was my first impression
@@GreenAppelPie We need that. We have been too Americanised.
@@Swedishpolymath what?? So we need a Führer to get us back?? We are Europeans and America is an ally, better then Russia.
Woke is a silly childish American concept mostly unknown in the non-English world.
The word "woke" is well known in LATAM and Europe, but we in LATAM don't support it, maybe that's why you say it's unknown to us 😂
Woke is just a label for identity politics, which is widespread across the West, including in Western Europe as far as I can see.
Let's not forget that BSW, like all the other parties, accept donations from "Big Donors", coporations and such. The Left Party (Linke) does not, and is the only party that does not. Also, the chairman and woman of Die Linke have reduced their own salary to the amount of an average German salary (2,850 €/month (net salary)) and donate the "excess amount". If that doesn't "say" a lot, I don't know what does - actions speak a lot louder than words. I, personally, would never be able to support a party that has "right elements", especially not if they do not understand that you can not control dictators. You can not make them your friend. You can not talk to them upon the grounds of common sense, it is not possible.
What matters is ideas and whether they are true or not, not who funds them.
she sounds like the perfect cult leader. I hope germans see through the charisma to the sociopath inside
Germans are already in a pro-Netanyahu cult. It can only get better not worse.
Good info about this new party. It is a shame though that the conversation goal was to ‘label’ the party; with labels from the last century… When you clarify the party’s stands, rather than stigmatizing it as ‘far-….’ or disruptive party, it would be more helpful to check how this connects with what is done or said by party representatives.
On a positive note, this party may well nibble off votes from AfD.
Go woke go broke
Do you play videogames? If so what's your favorite
You realize this is children's slogan and western societies have known unprecedented prosperity under what you call "woke" for decades...
we've been hearing that for 10 years now and both Hollywood and gaming industry kept breaking records since. Give up already
Everything is "far something" when you yourselves are so extreme that you frame different opinions and normal people as fanatics.
never ever ever any afd rep invited to explain their views
DW be like: Let's invite some biased expert instead!
True. I would like them to explain why Ossies have such a problem with immigrants, when immigrants prefer the west of the country.
But they were sharing their views with an Austrian neona7i ;) Do you remember?
and if you go out and search for it, you will find they are no where near as radical as DW and the media make them out as
Cry me a river,
As if AFD was not in this show last week
also DW thinks AfD is a far right party - which it is not. It is Germanys only hope.
Thanks for the ep. Will make sure to vote for her.
im german and neither bsw or afd have far right politics. i agree to the terms of far right politics if we call out every party that has used the same positions ins their past of which the cdu and spd are guilty of.
DW is such an insane leftist partisan channel 😂😂😂😂
Its a liberal channel not partisan. They post pure NATO slop
So true!!!
That is your opinion, not a fact.
@@MrSjengster it's obviously not YOUR opinion. it's still a fact, though 😅
DW is getting trolls, let’s cleanse the comments
I would like you to discuss how it is still possible that Britain still has a monarchy in power , even after their wars showed how weak the ideas turned out. Why is it that British people have not gotten rid of their king and their monarchy who Lords over them? it seems to me that that is the worst kind of cast system. I would like to hear your ideas for it and against it. My understanding is that the British economy is not doing so well and yet, King Charles doesn’t pay any income taxes on his vast properties.
I would’ve thought that the scandal with Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew would’ve brought the whole thing down. Can you discuss that at all?
It's called 'charisma'.
it's called being a cult leader.
This was a total waste of time.
Some Germans still have balls and common sense.
¿DW represents Germany's interests?
Person steering interview seems a British citizen by his accent !!
DW is a public broadcaster and therefore independent. The director general and the respective editorial management decide how neutral it is.
Thank you very much for so informative discussion. Its very good to understand what is happening in the political field in Germany, especially if you are not German and do not live in Germany.
Adding your name to a political party somehow sounds initially not a good move........ It means your political party is VERY FIXED and based only on Sarah Wagenknecht´s views or political views if you like.. So not a good start . but watch this space
16:10 she clarified, that this was the opinion of the BND.
*We are told by the German commentator, Katja Hoyer, that Sahra Wagenknecht is very much of the Left in the tradition of the Deutsche Demokratische Republik where she was born and grew up while the DW political correspondent, Matthew Moore, tells us that she is very like the former Scottish National Party's Nicola Sturgeon or the right-wing comical conservative failed prime minister, the buffoon Tory joke, Boris Johnson. Poles apart. Which is it, I wonder.*
The party is new, so its positions are so mixed that it poaches voters from other parties in the party landscape.
Left, right ,middle ? I think , Wagenknecht tries to free herself from any drawer. She walks her own special way, giving a home to people who became political homeless because of the events of the last 5 years.
From what I can see, BSW is similar to “Blue Labour” and the modern SDP in the UK on these issues.
On the one hand, DW can be methodic (constructive) in discussing German domestic politics. On the other hand, if it is about Georgia, it is always about the "pro-Russian Georgian ruling party" against pro-EU protesters from the center of Tbilisi.
So when afd say things like this it's bad but when a left party say the same things it's okay
Like what?
Yes, SW said that BSW is a "serious" alternative to AfD. AfD is the real disruptive factor, BSW is possibly created to deflect from AfD.
Certainly interesting times for Germany and the world. I'd hazard a guess that the prefix 'far-" is out by wide margin. Will we see the left hand shaking the right hand while the old-timers smoke and cry in their beer?
Richard is such shmuck 😂😂😂, he is the perfect establishment journo
Thanks for the very informative and thoughtful reporting! It's a great example of good journalism.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
irrelevant discussion !
Yet here you are, viewing and commenting.
That mix. Is called common sense, and logic. Not running off emotions like the right or left
Germany - don’t go down this self destructive path. Don’t do what we in the US did. Stay the course of democracy- not oligarchy. There’s a lot of amazing technology around the corner you’ll want to be alive and healthy for.
Sahra wagenknecht has been very popular in the Linke
Its very weird far right is actually the far wrong in English.
These parties are supported by human beings with their own brains and freedom to choose, and you call it "wrong" lol. This is why democracy will grow more toxic and self destructive with time: the value systems that let democracies thrive are being abandoned in the West.
Sad to see German education failing so many
Too much commercials here
If we are all vassal states, what was East Germany's relationship to the USSR?
What's your point??
The Soviet Union dissolved and all USSR satellite countries regained their freedom and sovereignty except America didn't leave and yes, EU/NATO is basically a US vassal entity for US hegemony that likes to fight proxy wars far away from its own shores.
When the cold war ended the raison d'etre of NATO and US presence also became obsolete. People in Europe don't believe that the US has Europe's best interest at heart and that Europe should be in charge of it's own destiny.
East Germany is now a vassal of the USA. It is time to be independent for both Geramnies.
Anti-NATO? Well then Germany better increase its Defence spending .... a lot.
She's a socialist and a nationalist, a social nationalist.
She needs to learn more history and science. Without nato, Poland was invaded. iPCC is so low ball, climate change is an existential crisis. I miss mirkel. And her lack of understanding of the world is astonishing.
It would be really nice if people, or at least experts/professionals would stop with the "left" vs. "right" spectrum -- one dimension only. There is not one criterion sufficient to categorize a party. At least there needs to be individual liberties vs. autoritarian and laissez faire vs. socialism, but in reality one should be brave enough to accept that you need a whole bundle of dimensions to characterize any politician, let alone the whole party -- including ones that deal with realism and hoesty. Journalism needs to work both on courage/ambition what to address (though relative to most countries the German collectively funded media is good -- not up to the new challenges though [combination of social media and massive influence campaigns]) and competence to deliver.
And one important very basic lesson from the last decade or two of well funded influence campaigns: call out the lies in plain language. People still don't like people who lie, but they can be easily influenced into thinking everyone was lying and there was really no difference anymore -- even if the reality is people trying to be honest on one side and a massive disinformation campaign on the other, let alone for everything in between. Of course, schools are failing even harder than (not-for-profit [for profit media is not failing to be helpful, they never were meant to]) media.
Summary: She basically wants Germany to be less dependent on the USA but instead much more dependent on Russia.
I think She just want to take the best possible deal on the free world market in each case. And not fight wars for other's interest. Germany and Europe is absolutly in the position to decide for itself and take only the best offers regardless from Whitch side IT comes from. An authonom Europe would be safer and more prosperous.
An a and independent Europe doesn't mean pro-Russia, don't manipulate information.
Russia is our neighbor, one is always dependent on the neighbor, Geografie is a fact.
The SYSTEM don't like her
I wouldnt trust a leader that's still close to Putin after all that happened.
You mean, after all that we were told. In a war, everybody lies. RT is the enemy broadcast now, and is blocked in the EU. In this condition, believe nothing, listen to DW, but also to at least 10 other channels.
I've seen left leaning voters switching over to the far right due to some social progressive policies being enacted by a left party. Some people lean left on economy or labor, however are pretty much opposed to certain immigration and progressive policies. I would like to avoid labeling but there are plenty of sexists and racists in the left as well.
BSW is not new. Sahra has been around for ages and has never done anything good. This feels like advertising for BSW as a far-left Putin-oriented extremist alternative to AfD. "enigmatic", "star appeal", "charisma"? wtf
Disrupting????
Germans here, plesse who can help me with the answer to my question, is DW government owned like BBC,?
Wikipedia can help you: "Deutsche Welle , commonly shortened to DW, is a German public, state-owned international broadcaster funded by the German federal tax budget."
Sahra Wagenknech is center left, and very naive to world politics, Putin, USA, the past and what needs to happen going forward.
She's not naive at all,very smart lady who care for her people.
How mutch did Putin pay them?
The same as to the AfD...both are under investigation by German authorities...
a relatively balanced report from DW here that adds value. I don't think you would get this if they were talking about the 'far right', BSW sound like a national socialist party to me.
Sahra Wagenknecht has publicly on live tv supported the AfD. FTS! She is not on the left at all.
Is it possible to be a nationalist and a socialist?
She's a social nationalist.
@@stephenhill545 It's not possible. Socialism is about class, not about nation. The principle is proletarian internationalism. Nationalists are conservatives, not revolutionary.
@@stephenhill545 she leans on the gdr part since it was it own nation had its identity but was still a soviet puppet state and had its influences from it.
@@stephenhill545 “National Socialist Workers Party” has an eerie ring to it. Germans need a National Dialogue ignoring current affiliations (they are dissolving anyway) and hasten the consensus for a new centre of gravity in politics, lest a long phase of confused polarisation prevents necessary reforms
alter Wein in neuen Schläuchen
Anti nato- pro russian far right....
Man! Far out!
Pro Putin ?
Pro Germany..
Both the far right as well as the far left (like the BSW) are just the two sides of one coin.
@@a564-c3q Sometimes being in the middle of right versus wrong simply means you are still ultimately wrong
A yes, the Far Left Party….
Well.... she's easy on the eye.
Funny how impartial this video is, compared to german languaged ÖRR. Thank you.
headphones?
DW always has something to say 😂
The Putin party
german party(not puppet)
@@prajwal1341 She is from East Germany, the DDR/STASI still runs deep in the east Germans veins.
Starting to get trolls here DW.
What is a troll? Somebody whose opinion you don't agree with?
so we go from anti foreigner afd to anti nato bsw?
AfD is not "anti-foreigner" but wants a controlled immigration, that means borders. The idea of open borders is self destructive, why do countries do this to themselves?
Too absurd
The Wagenknecht - give Putin a hand … yeah she has a lot of self love - good smart talker shame about the misguided attitude