I've had my 22 wrx 2 months and 7k miles later ive hit 14.4psi and it keeps progressing. Almost no lag in any gear even 6th. By far funnest car I've ever owned and the 0 to 60 times shown in the reviews definitely need a driver mod. Mine hits mid 4's easily if you get your clutch dance right. Only mod I'd do is a basic ecu tune when available. Have fun out there guys and gals.
Do not use an ost. Go to a tuner and spend the money to dyno it. Get an aftermarket boost controller as well. This turbo is capable of 18 to 20 psi all day long.
Great vid and explanation of how dynos work with respect to the SAE factor. Note: A turbo car with an intercooler really should have a huge blower at the front end cooling the motor and the air charge. I didn’t see a blower on your run which is why you likely suffered from heat soak.
actually you're supposed to have your hood open plus a blower directly on top of the intercooler or a flexible wind tunnel connected to the intercooler (how my STI was dynoed). putting a fan in front will literally do nothing unless you're FMIC
Isn't this why most dynos blow air at the front of the car though? A car on the road has airflow. A car on a dyno with no blowers simulating airflow is going to heat up, no?
@@amerritt09 I was just under my 22 for the first time this weekend (installing the Burger Motorsport intake.) Something I found rather interesting is the belly pan has a pair of NACA ducts, with vanes angled back. These were most certainly put there to extract heat from the bottom of the engine. Maybe other Scooby's have had them. I wondered if it's unique to the FA's, with the turbo up front vs on the right side with EJ's. Just random thoughts.
Prime motoring has discovered that unlike previous gens this thing seems to tune itself to modifications, so for now interested to see what the ECU can do on it's own :)
Feel like I'm answering my own question but won't dyno figures, just like 0-60 and 1/4 times be more accurate once these cars have 5,000-7,000 miles on? Quite a long time ago either C&D or R&T did an article where they brought the same test cars back almost a year later, matched up the weather best they could, and got up to 15% better times.
Probably. Bought my wife a 2016 For Escape with the little turbo and AWD (RIP - Moose totaled it). It was getting low 20’s mpg for about the first 7500 miles and then randomly one day it was like it had about 20% more horsepower and got around 30 mpg avg. There was a night and day difference. My mother Jeep was the same way. She bough a new 2018 Cherokee and it just rolled over 8k miles this week (she doesn’t drive much) and it has more power for sure. I just borrowed it today to haul some junk of hers around.
Correct, my 22 WRX is quicker after I had 4000 miles on her. Breaking in period. Added a K&N filter in the air box and noticed some quicker acceleration in 4th gear at 3000 rpm and up. Having a blast with this unique car.
Car Manufacturers underreport their numbers to avoid lawsuits. They can’t get sued if the vehicle does better than specified, but they are false advertising if it performs worse than advertised. You can almost guarantee every car in the US over-performs in every data catalog when compared to manufacturer numbers and real-world numbers, including HP torque, MPG, etc.
@@rallysportdirect I watched the video that says the VDC is still on when you hold the button and turning it off only delays the TC it doesn't completely shut it off
So I’m new to the car scene- always have loved cars but never knew specs and how to mod etc but I’m trying to learn. What is a VA vs VB. And is there a VA vs VB model of the 2022 WRX?
I'm really thinking of getting a 2022 wrx but I would have to trade in my 2019 wrx sti limited any thoughts? I really love my sti it only has 9k 3inch catback,cobb accessport but the wrx is growing on me
Hmmm it’s a hard one I personally have never driven that gen of STi, I think when comparing to the new wrx in a nutshell it’s a step forward in dynamics but a step backwards in driving feel so really whichever one of those things matters more to you, also go test drive one if you’re able that should really put stuff into perspective for you
I am excited to see the mods and the numbers after they start coming out for this motor. Great video! And has anyone ever told you that you look like Emile Hirsch? Like... a lot.
Off-topic question, but how do you get the pops from your exhaust when you drive? I’m getting an axle back exhaust for my WRX soon and I’d like to know how to do it lol
It will do it with the stock mufflers. The ETS axleback with resonators will pop after high rpm shifts and give you nice unexpected pops on smooth downshifts occasionally.
The video has some major flaws.. if you say it’s quicker than the VA then why not dyno them back to back? See the relative difference in the dyno. Then consider the gearbox ratios and that would make a difference also. I’ve seen the same car make 60 horsepower difference from dyno to dyno.. it’s about relative difference car to car or before after mods ignoring the absolute numbers
Gearing doesn’t change a dyno number because the dyno uses the gear ratio reduction as an input. A dyno measures work done by the motor irrespective of the gearing.
I really doubt gear ratios alone would have made 2 car lengths of difference especially considering the car weights an extra 50 lbs, and i don't just say it's quicker there's tons of drag and roll races between the 2 cars and the VB always comes out on top, but throwing the VA on the dyno would be interesting to see.
I’d rather the right gearing than 20-30hp.. in Australia, there are cars that gain 1 second down the quarter mile by the manufacturer using a better gearbox (both auto) but different ratios. Of course gear ratios make a big difference.
@@rallysportdirect The axlebacks are up to 40% less restrictive. Should have done this test right the first time! All test after this will be meaningless until corrected.
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I've had my 22 wrx 2 months and 7k miles later ive hit 14.4psi and it keeps progressing. Almost no lag in any gear even 6th. By far funnest car I've ever owned and the 0 to 60 times shown in the reviews definitely need a driver mod. Mine hits mid 4's easily if you get your clutch dance right. Only mod I'd do is a basic ecu tune when available. Have fun out there guys and gals.
Do not use an ost. Go to a tuner and spend the money to dyno it. Get an aftermarket boost controller as well. This turbo is capable of 18 to 20 psi all day long.
Cap bro Cap you ain't hitting 4s in a stock wrx
That is some bull. The best drivers out there have been able to get 5.5 seconds out of these cars. Lies
Subaru pulled a Porsche and undercut their numbers
Great vid and explanation of how dynos work with respect to the SAE factor. Note: A turbo car with an intercooler really should have a huge blower at the front end cooling the motor and the air charge. I didn’t see a blower on your run which is why you likely suffered from heat soak.
100% agree
actually you're supposed to have your hood open plus a blower directly on top of the intercooler or a flexible wind tunnel connected to the intercooler (how my STI was dynoed). putting a fan in front will literally do nothing unless you're FMIC
Isn't this why most dynos blow air at the front of the car though? A car on the road has airflow. A car on a dyno with no blowers simulating airflow is going to heat up, no?
There’s a fan at 1:58. Hood is open too.
@@amerritt09 I was just under my 22 for the first time this weekend (installing the Burger Motorsport intake.) Something I found rather interesting is the belly pan has a pair of NACA ducts, with vanes angled back. These were most certainly put there to extract heat from the bottom of the engine. Maybe other Scooby's have had them. I wondered if it's unique to the FA's, with the turbo up front vs on the right side with EJ's. Just random thoughts.
I’ve gotten mine up to 15.6 boost! Completely stock. No filter deletes, no nothing. Just 91 octane from chevron out here in Arizona.
now that's some boost!
Same i use 93,3 gallons of flex to a full tank. Top speed so far is 153 mph
I'm stuck at 13.4. Hopefully some e30 with up my max boost.
But did you actually make more power just because you made more boost doesnt mean you made more power
@@mrsubaru5367 what other fuel do I use??? Im putting 93 on mine.
Dyno days are extremely satisfying... except the bill part.
Well known the OEM numbers are undervalued. Closer to 290 bhp= 240 whp
248whp 😊
Very easy to understand when explained properly.
You should have had a stock VA with you to put that uncorrected whp into context.
The hood WAS open and the fan WAS in front of car at first. But then not in the 2nd or 3rd pull.. why?
A lot of other Dyno numbers have been around 254hp and 245tq
Still really good, barely any drivetrain loss considering it’s AWD.
I don't have a clue what you just said. All I know is that I want one.
Can't wait to see the mods you guys do to the 22
We can hardly wait either ;)
you get a like, because you asked so nicely, enjoy it brother thanks for all the work!
Much appreciated!
Great video style, I didn't think I would subscribe but I really liked the way you present info. Nice cars in the backdrop too!
Much appreciated!
What a wiener comment to make.
Are you going to test the JB4 or are you leaving it stock tuned for a little? Great video regardless!
Prime motoring has discovered that unlike previous gens this thing seems to tune itself to modifications, so for now interested to see what the ECU can do on it's own :)
@@rallysportdirect interesting
I would love for you to elaborate on this if you can! I was planning to go JB 4 but will hold off it the ecu can adapt.
@@rallysportdirectNEED MORE CONTEXT !!
Soooooo 218/251 w/o correction vs 268/309 with correction.
Feel like I'm answering my own question but won't dyno figures, just like 0-60 and 1/4 times be more accurate once these cars have 5,000-7,000 miles on? Quite a long time ago either C&D or R&T did an article where they brought the same test cars back almost a year later, matched up the weather best they could, and got up to 15% better times.
That's interesting! i believe ours had about 3000 miles when we did this dyno test
Probably. Bought my wife a 2016 For Escape with the little turbo and AWD (RIP - Moose totaled it). It was getting low 20’s mpg for about the first 7500 miles and then randomly one day it was like it had about 20% more horsepower and got around 30 mpg avg. There was a night and day difference. My mother Jeep was the same way. She bough a new 2018 Cherokee and it just rolled over 8k miles this week (she doesn’t drive much) and it has more power for sure. I just borrowed it today to haul some junk of hers around.
Correct, my 22 WRX is quicker after I had 4000 miles on her. Breaking in period. Added a K&N filter in the air box and noticed some quicker acceleration in 4th gear at 3000 rpm and up. Having a blast with this unique car.
Best mod ever was getting rid of all my friends so they weren't weighing my cars down. Now I'm faster, with nowhere to go. I don't recommend this mod.
Hahaha
Awwww
Maybe taking that Ukraine flag down will give you more friend. Just my 2 cents.
Car Manufacturers underreport their numbers to avoid lawsuits. They can’t get sued if the vehicle does better than specified, but they are false advertising if it performs worse than advertised. You can almost guarantee every car in the US over-performs in every data catalog when compared to manufacturer numbers and real-world numbers, including HP torque, MPG, etc.
Great video!
It doesn't matter what they reported. The oil galleys on all the VBs are clogging up with chunks of RTV as we speak
fixed with 23 models and most 22s
My 2020 2.0DIT, completely stock shows a peak of 21 pounds of boost, i dont know how it got there, and have never been able to replicate it.
If it was used. Someone probably had an access port tune on it. Lol.
Could you please do a video on what fuse to pull or what plug to pull to get rid of the vehicle Dynamics control and traction control on the 22 WRX?
It has fully defeatable traction control just hold the TC button until the track lights goes of
@@rallysportdirect I watched the video that says the VDC is still on when you hold the button and turning it off only delays the TC it doesn't completely shut it off
You need to slap on a separate blower over the intercooler to reduce heat soak. Top mounts dont do well in low speed.
good vid bud
So I’m new to the car scene- always have loved cars but never knew specs and how to mod etc but I’m trying to learn. What is a VA vs VB. And is there a VA vs VB model of the 2022 WRX?
VA is the "generation code" for the 2015-2021 wrx VB is the code for 2022+ wrx
I'm really thinking of getting a 2022 wrx but I would have to trade in my 2019 wrx sti limited any thoughts? I really love my sti it only has 9k 3inch catback,cobb accessport but the wrx is growing on me
Hmmm it’s a hard one I personally have never driven that gen of STi, I think when comparing to the new wrx in a nutshell it’s a step forward in dynamics but a step backwards in driving feel so really whichever one of those things matters more to you, also go test drive one if you’re able that should really put stuff into perspective for you
what numbers did the va put down on the same dyno? i dont doubt subaru gave us a little extra in the wrx since theres no sti
Well, my last car was a VA STI…. VB feels faster.. significantly faster. And revs easier too.
I’ve hit 15.5 psi in my 2022wrx it went from 12.5 13.5 14.5 15.5 weird
I am excited to see the mods and the numbers after they start coming out for this motor.
Great video!
And has anyone ever told you that you look like Emile Hirsch? Like... a lot.
LMFAO i always got Corey Feldman but you're not wrong
How about a comparison dyno with a VA?
Off-topic question, but how do you get the pops from your exhaust when you drive? I’m getting an axle back exhaust for my WRX soon and I’d like to know how to do it lol
literally just does it from factory believe it or not
Oh. Well how do I get mine to do it 😂
It will do it with the stock mufflers. The ETS axleback with resonators will pop after high rpm shifts and give you nice unexpected pops on smooth downshifts occasionally.
Just let off the throttle
How do I drive a car
It's definitely under rated I pull on my friends evo x.
No you do not stop it
@@mrevo9641 100 percent do he's heavy as f almost 300lbs heavier with garbage gearing ⚙️
@@Trappedinnewyork😂😂😂
where you get the 4th brake light for a 22?
Check one of our recent videos ;)
why in the hell do you start with loud noise?
What are the mods?
can i use a cobb on a automatic subaru wrx ?
Lmaooooo😂
It’s faster than the VA WRX let’s see it against a VA STI . Then we should have a better idea .
It smokes it. There are already videos out there. Vb better.
The VB is faster than a stock VA STi
Already been proven a stock VB wrx is faster on the track than a lightly modified VA STi
Interesting
The video has some major flaws.. if you say it’s quicker than the VA then why not dyno them back to back? See the relative difference in the dyno. Then consider the gearbox ratios and that would make a difference also. I’ve seen the same car make 60 horsepower difference from dyno to dyno.. it’s about relative difference car to car or before after mods ignoring the absolute numbers
Gearing doesn’t change a dyno number because the dyno uses the gear ratio reduction as an input. A dyno measures work done by the motor irrespective of the gearing.
Don’t gears multiply torque? A car will make different dyno numbers in different gears. Rear ratio is common
I really doubt gear ratios alone would have made 2 car lengths of difference especially considering the car weights an extra 50 lbs, and i don't just say it's quicker there's tons of drag and roll races between the 2 cars and the VB always comes out on top, but throwing the VA on the dyno would be interesting to see.
I’d rather the right gearing than 20-30hp.. in Australia, there are cars that gain 1 second down the quarter mile by the manufacturer using a better gearbox (both auto) but different ratios. Of course gear ratios make a big difference.
Others did dyno on 2022 wrx they had only 220 whp. I don't know who to believe?
Probably a cvt or mustang dyno that reads very low whp #s
Seems oddly high to me from what other dyno results are running. The numbers you are getting seem more like a Stage 1 pro-tune, honestly.
average 2022 dyno 245-250whp so around 300 crank
makes me wonder how many guys be fudging numbers to look cool🤔🤔
That can't be stock
If you count a muffler delete as not stock then i guess so
Sure is most dyno 245-260whp
Heat soaking little 4cyl engines suck
Wow good numbers it's still ugly.. 😁
even if they did it is still ugly af
I have a 2019 wrx, these cars are slow as fuck lol love the handling tho and appearance that’s about it
2022s are much faster
That test is meaningless. The vehicle isn't stock. You have to put the OEM mufflers back on, and do it again.
They're only axlebacks very unlikely that they affect performance in any fashion besides some weight savings
@@rallysportdirect The axlebacks are up to 40% less restrictive. Should have done this test right the first time! All test after this will be meaningless until corrected.
@@odaymarks 90% of statistics are made up! An axle back may get you 2-3 hp at best. Likely less in a 4cyl application.
@@odaymarks Are you confusing an axle back with a full turbo back somehow? 🧐 Axle backs aren't a _power_ upgrade... like, at all.
You need to relax bro. It's really not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Car has soo much tuning potential but its ugly asf