EPIC Neah Bay Fishing ONE Day Turn and Burn - Salmon and Bottomfish June 2023
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2023
- My crew and I spent one night in Sekiu to fish Marine Area 4 / Neah Bay for one day of EPIC Fishing on big chinook salmon and bottomfish, hooking them all day in shallow water around the many rock piles and reefs of the upper Washington coastline.
We hooked many quality chinook salmon amidst hooking coho salmon, black rockfish, yellowtail rockfish and ling cod, but we lost several of those nice king salmon in heartbreaking fashion.
We debated what we could have done differently: Was it our gear? Am I ready to give up on the mooching reels? Was it our technique of fighting big chinook? Or was it just bad luck? The debate rages on in our post fishing trip text threads!
Any fishing trip to Neah Bay / Sekiu area is already epic just by being out there, in the most beautiful of waters. This trip was no exception and we hope you get that vibe as you watch our video. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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Man those are some of the best trips, just a cheap quickly. Seeing this lights the fire under my deck, been slacking on so minnor repairs. Thanks for the inspiration. And man that darn wind has ruined more trips than anything
Hell yeah man! 🤙
Sometimes they all bite weird. I've had Coho days where they keep getting hooked on the side of the head. Sometimes they gulp it down as you know. Way it goes! Thank you for the video! A lot if great info in there. I hope to apply it soon!
So true! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Did a few hours of trolling at Neah Bay this week and thanks to a lot of your videos, we hooked a couple salmon! No kings and no keepers, just wild coho released. Appreciate all the time you take to share your content with us, it makes a difference.
Wow, thanks for sharing that! Yeah, it seems the catch rate and even encounters on chinook haven’t been great so far. While we lost a bunch of fish, it seems like the number we hooked has not been what most have experienced even folks following the exact same program so 🤷♂️
Some days are just that way. Who hasn't had one of those days? I believe it is more a function of how the fish is striking the lure and where the hook embeds in it's mouth. A hook set inside the gum line has a less chance of releasing than one outside the gum line. And a hook set outside the gum line is more likely to be torn out of the mouth under a lot of pressure. That is why I use a relatively loose drag and am experimenting with using snubbers on my flashers the last year or so. Just my thought. Nice video, and good luck.
Thanks Bill! Yeah, that's kind of what I think about it as well...I like a tight drag initially to make sure that hook buries, and after that I usually like to back it off a bit. I want that fish to run away from me and tire itself out! I don't like the heavy pressure situation where it's just sitting there head shaking side to side. I associate prolonged moments of that action to losing fish.
Try turning your flashers into break away. I've converted all of my flashers. Less resistance.
Yup, me too!
Turns out the Chinook attack the fish on the hook for the same bait! My experience on the top water on a sunny morning trolling south.
Nice!
Love the channel, quick question. When you do a turn burn trip like that are you driving up that morning with the boat and returning that night with the boat, or do you already have the boat up there, or are you going up the day before and sleeping in the truck? I’m looking to go up there and make trip and I’d just like to see what other people do. Maybe where they put in also?
So, not spending the night would be even crazier. We spent the night at Bella Vita Resort and launched at Masons super early and didn’t get back home until 11
Once I showed my Alaska fishing guide on the Kenai River how to sharpen his hooks we stopped losing fish.
I agree a sharp hook is an important part of the process, however, usually this shows up as not converting downrigger bites that pop the clip to sold hookups. In this case, our hooks were laser sharp, and solidly hooked up, but getting off eventually due to the ability for fish to twist around the spoon. I've largely eliminated this by adding a barrel swivel.
I actually don't sharpen my hooked anymore unless I really don't want to re-tie something. Hooks are cheap, I generally throw away dull hooks and replace with brand new ones. You will never get a hook as sharp as it comes out of the package. Replace hooks often!
@@PNWBestLife Okay we were in a drift boat fishing with plugs that weren't maintained or changed. Personally I like to mooch with cut plug or live herring so like you say go through a lot of hooks, especially when there's lots of dogfish.
I gotchya. Yeah, i've been on a few trips with a guide who's stuff isn't 100%, drives me nuts!
I think many trollers assume the fish gets a good hook set once it strikes. I have always given it a good hook set once I feel the fish. Since we have the barbless hook rule, I try to get a good hard hook set to bury it further if I can. I use 40# braid w/a 30# leader line and have never broken anything from setting the hook or pulled one from the fish’s mouth. I haven’t had many just pop off since I’ve been doing that. Give it a try.
That’s a great point! Chinook have incredibly hard jaws, and when I fish em in the freshwater I really set it hard vs thinking they hooked themselves because the downrigger clip popped and we reeled down.
Definitely gonna try this in the future!
Really good point appreciate the info is there a specific hook brand or style that works best with spoons and do different spoon styles work better with different hooks.would really like to hear some opinions on the matter.
@@chrispiontek510 I've been convinced that the best barbless hooks are the sickle siwash from Gamakatsu, but I think they need a little help on a spoon. I've modified my spoons to have a barrel swivel / split ring between the spoon and the hook, and I'm going to change up a few things related to the hookset off the downrigger and drag while fighting the fish to see if that helps. I definitely plan to share later in the chinook season my results and what I've learned, stay tuned!
Its called having to use barbless hooks. Its always going to increase your chances of losing fish. Nothing we can do much about. Nice video
Appreciate the compliment and support! And I think your mostly correct here about barbless hooks, but I added a barrel swivel between my spoon and hook that’s really cut down on the lost fish on spoons in a huge way.
Bingo, thats what I have done for years, especially at Swiftsure with all the feeding coho. Appreciate your videos. Been fishing for 15 yrs at Sekiu, and miss it horribly, cause I sold my 24ft searunner being from Spokane and daughter going to UW. Fished Port Hardy many times using those knucklebuster reels and would suggest having your guests always work on keeping that rod tip high, not pointing towards fish. From your camera angle, it was hard to tell how your crew was holding poles. Keep the vids coming!@@PNWBestLife
Thanks, will do!
Set the hook
Yes! So many think you don’t need to do that on downrigger bites, but those chinook jaws are tough!
Single action reels are for fun only. Expect to lose fish because you can't keep up with them when they run at you, line gets slack and the barbless hook falls out
I think this is somewhat true! I do think that if you can get a solid initial hookup and you have a breakaway flasher that trips, fish lost with slack line is greatly reduced. But your margin for error is greatly reduced on a single action reel for sure!
Are you running flashers on your deep six divers? Or just a lure.
I run 8” flashers on the deep six divers. 48” leader to the bait helmet w/ anchovies on one and 16-20” to a ace high fly Jr on the other
Nice video. What were you using when you lost the chinooks?
Spoons 3.0 with 4/0 hooks
Didn't see what you're using, but losing fish on spoons is pretty common....unless you're using a larger commercial trolling spoon. Usually don't lose too many fish on a double 4/0 ace hi or squid rig.
I agree strongly with this. We were spooning it, and you’re right very few fish lost on hoochie / AHF double hook rig. I’m gonna make some changes to my spoons, will share how or if that changes things in terms of hook to land.
@@PNWBestLife I've done the offset siwash (bend the hook), sickle siwash, etc. Nothing really helps. I actually do not like running spoons....can't tell you how many times I've lost fish peeling away from the boat, etc. Not to mention you get to deal with shakers galore. I've tried breakaway flashers to no avail. I'd look in to the bigger half gold/half silver trolling spoons out there or run a 5" Tomic 602 plug. Those work well and the large 4/0 siwash seems to stick quite well....as it kinda is gaffing them with a spoon. Good luck out there! For Puget Sound (MA10), it's all about the Green UV ace hi and pair of 4/0's. That catches everything and rarely do you lose fish on them.
Great observations! Yeah, I use hoochies and ace high fly’s for Puget sound interior MA10, 11 and 13 quite a bit. But it’s soo easy to hook the ocean chinook on spoons! I’ve got a friend who combines the breakaway flashers with the barrel swivel / split ring on the spoon hook and is doing really well not losing fish. I run 4/0 hooks at least on all my spoons already. I’m gonna try the barrel swivel and see how that goes
Not sure if I missed it, how deep were you fishing for kings?
45 - 65 ft of wire in 60-100 ft of water
@@PNWBestLife thanks
Cool, I'm just learning. Need to follow you out fishing one day !!
For sure! Where do you fish?
Some days are diamond and others are rocks. Couple of those looked like big uns. Just know you have some monsters banked in your future! Great vids as always. Next time you’re in 9 or 10 I’d love to meet you and exchange knowledge. Buck. Enjoy the islands.
Thanks man! Would love to meet up. I’m gonna be on the water Saturday probably, crabbing in 9 and than looking for coho that want to play!
Just trick yourself into believing they were giant pinks with soft mouths and now human error and bad luck are eliminated forever.
@@PNWBestLife got a 7#er yesterday at oil docks. No fish story. Have pics for proof. Took like. Thought it was a cookie cutter king. Biggest resi I’ve ever seen. They were deeper than expected all morning. I’ll be out there all weekend and more
Yeah could have been not hooked very deep. If I hook one that’s solid I slow down right away. When they are hot and the boats moving it causes a lot of violent head shaking that can pop the hook or even break the line at an anchovy teaser head. It also causes you to move further away from the fish while pulling it up near the surface way behind the boat which is not ideal.
Oh interesting! Those reasons to slow down make a ton of sense. The last thing we want is that fish on the surface doing shenanigans
@@PNWBestLife I forgot to mention that if it does coming charging at the boat I’ll hit the throttle for a couple seconds to get tight on it again. Also when they are close to the boat with the flasher out of the water and they start swinging their head back and forth I point the rod down to the water. With that angle less seem to shake the hook out.
Yeah, I like that, we do the same thing on the river
What kind of hooks were yah using ? I guess that’s the only other thing I could think it was
4/0 gami’s
Don’t use Fluor for top shot too bridle use only for leaders
It does seem one nick away from being a problem!
Especially it being in the sun it deteriorates and the knot area breaks off easier noticed kept losing line and gear and realized the fluro was the culprit anytime I get a nick in fluro I change it out
I do try to keep it protected as much as possible. Haven’t had any issue with the knot though. I did notice on the rods I’ve lost gear on, I was missing the guide insert that protects the line on one of the guides. Whenever this has happened whether braid, mono or flouro, the risk of line breakage goes way up
where did you launch your boat ? I wanna go so bad. Thank you.
I launched from Masons on that day, cause I wanted to start fishing with the ebb right at the deadline in MA4. I can’t wait to go back next week!
@@PNWBestLife Thank you so much for your info. I watched your shrimping technic and this year i caught so many shrimps. Thank you so much for sharing.
I have 17ft Arima ,Do you think i can fish out there ?
That’s great to hear, thank you for sharing your success!
You can, but you need to understand marine weather safety. Here’s a primer: PNWBestLife.com/marine-weather-safety
"I didn't tell anybody else. But I knew you were gonna lose that fish." -- Some Clown
Some get away. That's fishing.
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Agreed. Way to kick a good Tim when he's down (for no reason).
My dude, Tim and I go back and forth non stop on our fishing trip, he’s one of the most fun and best dudes to fish with.
Not to mention, I was feeling it. I hate losing fish like that on my boat and I did feel initially that the gear was the problem, which is what Tim blamed it on, as did Ash. And I owned it when I made the video and clarified Tim did nothing wrong.
Interesting take dude.
I know you probably can’t tell from the video @ArcherBowman, but it was totally a joke and in defense of the gear being blamed in the moment. I didn’t actually think he was gonna lose the fish…sheesh