sorry, that "hyperbolic serve" wasnt legal; ball not tossed anywhere near 6 inches. its essentially dropped from the palm, not tossed. sad. i wonder if he can actually do it legally. seems possible.
Ma Lin has the best slow serve, and the dude from Japan has the best fast serve. A serve that is considered great has to be an ace serve or be won on the third ball.
Sir, you are so ignorant and biased on world top TT serves ! Variations on serves are part of the skills and they had practiced that tens of thousand times ! And they Did not break any of the Rules. Obviously the problem is Not on the rules .Period !
Actually, the Waldner serve was banned because he contacted the ball behind his extended right arm (in the vid), and the ball goes under the arm hiding the ball, which prevents the opponents ability to see the CONTACT to play; or would you also blindfold a goalkeeper for the first contact of a penalty? P.S. Even players like Mima Ito have been called out by the referee for foul serves.
WCQ serving above the table + not vertical (the angle exceeds 30 degrees) + hidden by his body + most often not reaching 16 cm but dropped down. 50 % of his serves should be called. He's not the only one but you almost don't see illegal serves in women competitions.
People only say that because he is lefty and he is Chinese. A lot of players dont toss it perfectly straight like Samsonov or Kenta Matsuidara. I dont see anyone complaining about Alexis Lebruns toss. Clear view of his toss in the "Alexis Lebrun vs Benedikt Duda | Final - European Championship 2024" You can watch it in TT11TV channel. His 2nd, 4th, 6th serve and on you can clearly see is past 30 degrees. Dimitri Tomahawk high toss is way over 30 degrees that he has to relocate his body 3 steps to the right. a lot of people tosses the ball towards their body. The new rule book already took the 30 degrees leeway off the book. So it is only near vertical. So if they reinforce it they have to enforce it to every player and be consistent about it. And is hard to see all angles of the toss. If you studied math you know there are 3 axis and the umpire can only see 2 axis clearly. Also the umpire cannot see the other players axis. A righty will see from a lefty the same thing the lefty sees from a righty. Yet the lefties are used to it and since they are lesser players. They will not complain as much as righty players do. But righties complain about lefties all the time. Watch Lin Yunju serve videos, Even tho he has a straight toss up he still covers the ball slightly with the head and body even tho he is upright if seen from the middle of the table. If you stand on your bh side you wont see anything. That's how it is. If you play a lefty you should stand closer to the middle to see the contact. That's the ideal spot. If you play enough lefties you would know. Now if you are a righty and you cant see a righty serve. Then that's an obvious problem. Like how Malong complained against another player he played against that did hook serves and was a righty and couldnt see it even though he was standing on the far bh side.
Which one? The waldner's serve wasn't "banned". What was banned was to let the arm in front to hide the contact point of the ball with the racket. The narrator "lied" to make shit sound sensational.
some of those serves were still legal at the time, like waldner's serves. it wasnt illegal yet to block the ball during the toss so they were still using their arms to cover it.
@@pixel2695 You will see this a LOT with top players. Their serves are a bewildering variety of ways to cover up the ball during the serve (which is now illegal.) Very difficult to see in real time, so is rarely called, but often done.
@@gunsandpolitics5510 i know yeah, but i was saying that some of the illegal serves like walder's where his arm would cover the ball were still legal at the time since there were no rules against it which is why a bunch of players did that.
@@gunsandpolitics5510 after reviewing the serves, pretty much only waldner and wang chuqin had illegal serves. some others have toss height problems but those serves weren't in an actual match and just a showcase. xuxin was just a matter of camera perspective since he's left handed. so yeah, i just wanted to clarify that with the 2 clearly illegal serves in this video, waldner's serves were legal because the rules were different at the time. i actually remember seeing videos teaching people that when you serve you should cover it with your arm. Those were just the rules at the time, you were allowed to hide the ball.
Is it just me or r u not supposed to block the ball with ur any part of ur body when serving yet every top player now a-days does this. Using the body to conceal the ball when they strike it which is illegal yet no ref calls any player for it. Y even have the rule in the rule book.
Um interesting but many of these serves were common even in the 80s. The tomahook, even at young age we had an almost identical serve, MA longs serve, we were doing it. Seems nothing is new under the sun.
This guy doesn't know table tennis. He's just ranting whatever. Waldner kicker was never banned, covering the ball during serve was banned.
dude chill
@@Fazed_622 let the guy cook stop telling him to chill
Pretty sure he knows more than you do .
@@michaelblankenau6598 you and the video creatoe is wrong, @uddipansharma472 is right.
@@michaelblankenau6598 over 90 people wouldn't like my comment if I was wrong.
I can't believe that this sport doesn't have the prestige of tennis. It's so exciting and artistic.
It does in certain places in the world.....like my living room...and I am a tennis lover. I play both sports....pickle ball, too.
Indeed 😊
is too fast for TV and far away audience is the main issue
Ma Long serves so good that even the table got all blurry.
😂
Naah, it was just Evergrande commercial down there 😅
I prefer the long short serve right in the middle left side of the table. Its returnable in 30 days
Ma Lin. One of the best servers of all time.
Any serve that ends with a long rally is NOT an insane serve. It's just average and returnable.
You’ve probably never played table tennis in your life after hearing that
@@Fujinoclip And I am probably never going to know if you're an AI robot or just another one of my many, many, anonymous, but very adorable admirers.
Title : Insane services
Proceeds to show rallies
I watched til the end, waiting to see the serve that curved to end of the net. disappointed me so much...waste my time...
@@melodyg1254It is possible and done by multiple people but i think its might be illegal on a real game
Dima's backhand serve is the best for the competitions.
Asuka Sakai's serve is my favorite because how powerful and easy ot is
That smashing should is priceless.
Changing the rules you shoud get a special medal for that! You defeted the game!
My favourite serve is backspin and topspin at the same time. Catches a lot of my opponents off guard.
That's very good, especially when you hit it with forehand and backhand at the same time too
Works both of the times
side spin both left and right in the same ball would be even better…
Works best if you spin your paddle in the palm of your hand so fast that the opponent sees only a reddish-black blur.
these comments are priceless
hahaha
1:30 right top corner 💀
Ma Lin serve ball was travelling fast and then stopped.
The one in the thumbnail.
Why is Chuqin's serve controversial?
Waldner's kicker server was effect in those days because he hid the ball with his left arm
sorry, that "hyperbolic serve" wasnt legal; ball not tossed anywhere near 6 inches. its essentially dropped from the palm, not tossed. sad. i wonder if he can actually do it legally. seems possible.
it takes like 2 minutes of practice.
Ma Lin has the best slow serve, and the dude from Japan has the best fast serve. A serve that is considered great has to be an ace serve or be won on the third ball.
How can Ma Lin make a backspin serve fast and short at the same time? 😮
just be a god
Sir, you are so ignorant and biased on world top TT serves ! Variations on serves are part of the skills and they had practiced that tens of thousand times ! And they Did not break any of the Rules. Obviously the problem is Not on the rules .Period !
Actually, the Waldner serve was banned because he contacted the ball behind his extended right arm (in the vid), and the ball goes under the arm hiding the ball, which prevents the opponents ability to see the CONTACT to play; or would you also blindfold a goalkeeper for the first contact of a penalty?
P.S. Even players like Mima Ito have been called out by the referee for foul serves.
WCQ serving above the table + not vertical (the angle exceeds 30 degrees) + hidden by his body + most often not reaching 16 cm but dropped down. 50 % of his serves should be called. He's not the only one but you almost don't see illegal serves in women competitions.
People only say that because he is lefty and he is Chinese. A lot of players dont toss it perfectly straight like Samsonov or Kenta Matsuidara.
I dont see anyone complaining about Alexis Lebruns toss.
Clear view of his toss in the "Alexis Lebrun vs Benedikt Duda | Final - European Championship 2024" You can watch it in TT11TV channel. His 2nd, 4th, 6th serve and on you can clearly see is past 30 degrees.
Dimitri Tomahawk high toss is way over 30 degrees that he has to relocate his body 3 steps to the right.
a lot of people tosses the ball towards their body.
The new rule book already took the 30 degrees leeway off the book. So it is only near vertical. So if they reinforce it they have to enforce it to every player and be consistent about it. And is hard to see all angles of the toss.
If you studied math you know there are 3 axis and the umpire can only see 2 axis clearly.
Also the umpire cannot see the other players axis. A righty will see from a lefty the same thing the lefty sees from a righty. Yet the lefties are used to it and since they are lesser players. They will not complain as much as righty players do. But righties complain about lefties all the time.
Watch Lin Yunju serve videos, Even tho he has a straight toss up he still covers the ball slightly with the head and body even tho he is upright if seen from the middle of the table. If you stand on your bh side you wont see anything. That's how it is. If you play a lefty you should stand closer to the middle to see the contact. That's the ideal spot.
If you play enough lefties you would know. Now if you are a righty and you cant see a righty serve. Then that's an obvious problem. Like how Malong complained against another player he played against that did hook serves and was a righty and couldnt see it even though he was standing on the far bh side.
I can’t believe they ban what should be a completely legal serve just because it is so skilled that opponents can’t return it.
Which one? The waldner's serve wasn't "banned". What was banned was to let the arm in front to hide the contact point of the ball with the racket. The narrator "lied" to make shit sound sensational.
Quite a few illegal serves here but often not called.
some of those serves were still legal at the time, like waldner's serves. it wasnt illegal yet to block the ball during the toss so they were still using their arms to cover it.
@@pixel2695 You will see this a LOT with top players. Their serves are a bewildering variety of ways to cover up the ball during the serve (which is now illegal.) Very difficult to see in real time, so is rarely called, but often done.
@@gunsandpolitics5510 i know yeah, but i was saying that some of the illegal serves like walder's where his arm would cover the ball were still legal at the time since there were no rules against it which is why a bunch of players did that.
@@gunsandpolitics5510 after reviewing the serves, pretty much only waldner and wang chuqin had illegal serves. some others have toss height problems but those serves weren't in an actual match and just a showcase. xuxin was just a matter of camera perspective since he's left handed. so yeah, i just wanted to clarify that with the 2 clearly illegal serves in this video, waldner's serves were legal because the rules were different at the time. i actually remember seeing videos teaching people that when you serve you should cover it with your arm. Those were just the rules at the time, you were allowed to hide the ball.
Best serve....Malin serve.....high quality
Waldner's and Ma Long's serves are the best. The others only have variations on spins that you can easily return if you know how to read them.
Super
1:19 Alle illegal
JOW time can hide the serve..
There is no serve that is unbeatable. There is errors at receiving it.
8:26 ball bounced twice?
no hit the net first
ANY covering the ball during serve - banned.
The kicker was never banned.
The serve was not, but how he did it under his armpit was.
dont you just keep your eye on the ball and not that hand serving it?
Ma lin’s cause he left zjk untouchable
Todays, Waldner serve is illegal
Use cash to but paddles
Is it just me or r u not supposed to block the ball with ur any part of ur body when serving yet every top player now a-days does this. Using the body to conceal the ball when they strike it which is illegal yet no ref calls any player for it. Y even have the rule in the rule book.
That rule was added not that long ago.
Xui chin illegal serve on top of the line table
25 cadres?)
Omg!
sigma
Um interesting but many of these serves were common even in the 80s. The tomahook, even at young age we had an almost identical serve, MA longs serve, we were doing it. Seems nothing is new under the sun.
The kicker serve is also banned because it doesn't go to the direction of the player, a rule you have to follow in Table Tennis.
It was never banned and the direction doesn't matter 😂
I think we found the most ignorant know-it-all of the internet guys !
Is ping pong difficult?
Kinda, but with a bit of practice you could reach unimaginable things
Against me? No. Against these guys? yes.
You really have no idea about table tennis, no wonder we chinese won everything. Sad..... Too easy
It is called Ping Pong.
Only by cretins 🤡