FULL REVIEW | 2019 TORO TIMEMASTER
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- This video is my full review of the 2019 Toro Timemaster. I wanted to get several cuts in before I posted an official review of the Toro Timemaster. Today’s cut was the 5th cut. I bagged, I mulched, I side discharged. Cut quality was about the same. I did find that you need real sharp blades on this mower. I do anyways. Self propelled system is the personal pace system, my favorite hands down. It has automatic blade stop, and electronic engine stop with the push of a button. The clean out port works well, and is very easy to use. There are multiple handle settings, including 2 for storage and 2 for mowing. Works great with a stripe kit too!
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Hey RVA, nice review. I watched your other video also, when you first got the mower. I'm planning to replace my 7 year old 22" Craftsman with the TimeMaster and I got a couple of questions. From other reviews on the mower, people complain about the small fuel tank, I have half acre and some guys say they fuel twice for a half acre..! You thoughts on that please, also, a guy was saying that the blades have 4 bolts attachment to the machine and those brake often, have you experience anything like that? Lastly, since I only bag the grass, had the mower ever choke the bag, by that I mean the grass not going into the bag all the way, but staying at the intake opening. My Craftsman is notorious about that and all rear wheel powered mowers have some issues on the subject. From your first video I saw that the opening in the rear of the mower, where the bag attaches, is pretty large. Please let me know. Thanks for the great videos.
ualdrivr let me start by saying thank you for watching and supporting my channel! As far as the gas goes, I have 10,000 sq ft and cut it all on one tank. I fill before my next cut, so I don’t really know how much farther it will take me. As for bagging, I just cut a neighbors grass over 7 inches tall and bagged with zero clogging issues. Bag holds a lot so it gets very heavy. And finally, the blades. One bolt holds each blade, so only 2 total bolts, and I’ve never seen one shear on any of my toro mowers over the past 25 years. Hope this info help, and subscribe if you haven’t to get notified of future reviews I might do! ✌️
@@RVALawnLove Thank you for the quick reply.
I always have two of them and rotate them every two years. The 8.75hp was not big enough but Toro has listen to us complain and came out with more hp. 1st thing you should do is take a pair of long needle nose pliers and remove the sponge in the gasoline tank. I mow 36 properties (average 8000 sq ft) every week. I go thru 1 (121-5765) belt per season. I change oil half way thru the season too. I sharpen my blades every Sunday afternoon. "The All American Sharpener" is the best way the consistently sharpen blades. Blades from factory are not sharp ready to cut grass. You need to touch up that edge before mounting. I use high lift blades ONLY which help suck up the grass while cutting. I also use the "Big League Checkmate". It is the best stripe kit available. I bag in the spring for about 4-5 weeks then mulch the rest of the year.
P.S. I have owed 8 of them so far. Best Toro hands down!
Are you walking slower than normal to compensate for mulching overgrown grass? If you did walk slower, do you think you'd run out of gas before finishing?
The timemaster is the most contested mower I've ever seen.
Ask 100 people their opinion you'll get 50 pro and 50 con.
The mowers are not very dependable
Most negative replies are from folks using this for commercial purposes, which it is not intended for. Also, this is a 30" mower with 2 blades, which requires more mechanical parts than a simple 21" mower, so there is going to be more maintenance required.
Great info covering pros/cons, thx for putting it out there for us on YT Land.
In your conversations with others, did you get any feedback on how the TimeMaster handles/maneuvers on hills or slopes? I am all but secure in a decision to go with a TimeMaster but my front yard slopes drastically towards road and side yard. Want to see how machine will handle.
Johnny Bizzell I’ve used it at my parents which is on a big slope, and it does fine
So I run the Exmark Commercial 30, it’s a bit heavier. Me living in the north, I have a pretty thick turf type tall fescue. I just sharpened my blades before my first mow of the season. My Exmark 30 cut quality is better than my Honda 21”. I mow my entire lawn on 4”, what height are you at and what is your grass type again?
Brent Markham highest I’ve cut this season is 3.25. I’m working my way up. Probably stop short of 4 inches though, yard is a tttf/kbg mix, and I don’t want the bluegrass to lay over
Great review. You sold me on the Toro. I'm replacing an 11 year old Honda. Considered the Cub Cadet CC600, but I think that the Toro is the way to go. Thanks.
You will enjoy it, such an easy mow. Enjoy!
Hello, what is the name of this accessory with wheel under your mower's bag? is it a toro official tool ? thx
That part is not a toro part. That is a stripe kit called the Checkmate by Big League Lawns. Toro does make stripe kits though, works well
@@RVALawnLove thx 😊
@@wil4linux glad to help bud
Nice video! What kind of striping kit do you have on your Timemaster? What kind of striping have you gotten without the roller you have?
mpf505 I use the checkmate stripe kit by big league lawns. Love it. Roller performs awesome
+mpf505 stripes well on its own too! Heavy mower, so it pushes the grass down good on its own
I have this mower and love it. I will pass one warning: never take a chance on hitting a rock or other obstruction because it doesn't take much to disrupt the timing/sync belt between the two blades. I run over my water meter all the time but yesterday the blade clipped it somehow and broke the timing/sync belt: $60. Luckily a dealer had a replacement and I could fix it the same day. There are videos out here to show you how to do it BUT you will need an impact wrench to remove the gear wheel on the left side to get the belt on.
Thanks for the heads up
I've owned the Timemaster for 5 years and I agree with you completely on the cut quality. It just isn't there. It leaves stragglers behind even with new or sharpened blades. If I walk at a snail's pace it does a better job, but I shouldn't have to compensate for the poor cut by walking slower than I normally would with any other mower. Overall, I'm pleased with it though.
The older ones don't cut no where near like the newer ones with the 10 ft lbs of torque. I have a 2013 and a new 2018 and there is a world of difference in the cut and speed in which you can cut. I was amazed at how well it mulches week old spring grass and fairly wet also. Side discharge throws it out nice and it really chops the grass into fine pieces. Do NOT try taking too much off when mulching. I mulch at 2 3/4" NO problem.
@@tomw1719 I appreciate the info. I was looking for a reason to upgrade to a new one and now I have it. Thanks.
I think cut quality is mostly one of those things that only certain people notice or care that much about once you get to a certain basic standard, and nothing wrong with those who are picky about it. There are other things that I'm picky about, but when it comes to mowing my yard, I just want to chop it down easily, quickly and cheaply and have a decent outcome. Toro TM30 does all those things and I could never stand to mow regularly with a 22 ever again. Strap up that side discharge plate and it will cut anything as fast as you care to walk. I sharpen or replace my blades about once every season and a half. I live in the southeast where the grass gets very thick starting mid June. No one is mulching or bagging much down here after that date. Nothing but compliments on my cut yard. Personal Pace is the best!
Gregory Faulkner definitely get stuff done with this mower! Thanks for your input, Gregory!
Good review buddy! Pretty cool all those people who drive by gets to see kick ass front lawn stripes!
Where did you get your striping kit from
william taylor big league lawns
love my time master ...only issues i've had is that I wish it had a bigger fuel tank and the belt that comes from the engine and engages the blade when you pull the lever stretches too easy ,I found I was adjusting the blade engage cable every few cuts .just replaced the belt this week ,takes about 10 minutes ...also wish it had an oil drain on the actual engine ...
Good to know about the cut quality I’m thinking of getting one as an upgrade from a Honda 21 because I’m just starting my lawn care company thanks for the great review
That's awesome ... it was the first time I have ever seen A deck wash used . Great video brother .
Yard Geeks thanks man! It needed it, that water was geeen!
Smart job lowering the deck for was out . Only way it works. Music is annoying.
Just got around to unboxing mine yesterday (pretty clever packaging by Toro). You’re not the only one to say this about cut quality, still I’m hoping it will be better than my neighbors who all seem to run lawn tractors or zero turns. First mow will likely be next week, I have a salad bar out there in our new place so this lawn reno will take a while (years) :) I keep going back and forth on that washout port, feels like soaking the blades and deck on a regular basis could lead to premature demise of both? Or maybe being cleaner when you’re done it can dry out more thoroughly, vs being packed in with possibly damp cutting buildup? A little bit baffled on that one. Thanks for the vid!
Richard Schott I’ve used the clean out port on all my toro mowers for years, and have never had a rust issue if that helps
That’s the kind of info I need, thanks. I guess I could give the blades a quick wipe with WD to make myself feel better 😂
Richard Schott they make silicone sprays. A lot of guys coat their undercarriage. I’d be worried about something leaving a film on the blades, actually causing a buildup of small particles
I’m definitely sold on the washout port. My third mow was a narrow weather window and honestly the grass was still wetter than I like. The Timemaster handled it fine but I knew there had to be buildup. Well I was astonished how much came out from the washout. Pro tip: lower the deck down to the lowest setting before you do a washout, it works a lot more efficiently! Looks like you knew this :)
Richard Schott yes it does help! However, make sure you raise it back up when you’re done! I forgot to and scalped a pass this week ☹️
Hey RVA, I'm having cut quality issues as well. Its driving me crazy. I love everything else about the mower. One section of my yard is 100% KBG and it shreds it. Im sharpening a lot. Seems to do a little better on the thicker grass blade of TTTF in other parts of the yard. Anyone have any suggestions besides keep sharpening?
Mark Ryals I find the same, tougher on my kbg than my fescue
Review was very helpful, just bought a used Timemaster! I've looked everywhere - do you know what the rpm range is for the Timemaster?
Gordon Hutchinson no sir I do not. Sorry
No problem, thanks anyway...
I have seen another TH-cam video where he claims he tweaked his up from 3100 to 3500. I have no idea how accurate that video is or if it represents the actual recommended RPM.
I'm torn between this and a Super Recycler. Only (and recurring) issue I've really seen on this mower relate to cut quality whether its not razor sharp blades or another reason I've seen is stretched belts which leads to slip and reduced tip speed of the blades. Seems to me the problem is the smaller diameter blades are a bit under-driven. A slightly larger drive pulley could be a solution, as well as a better quality drive belt.
Higher tip speed may also help with damp grass clippings caking the deck when mulching.
That striper also looks to work quite well. Thanks for the video/review.
Is your lawn still pretty level? Would you add more sand vs top soil?
It’s pretty smooth. I’m probably going to leave it like it is, just continue to fill in
The striping kit looks great!
Timothy Oliver thanks!
I have never used that feature on my toro or Cub cadet for fear that the bottom will rust out prematurely. How does the bottom look?
Grace Ortiz clean. I don’t have a video or picture, but lawn care nut shows the bottom of his when he changed his blades...looks like that lol
I was saying the same thing in my comment. Almost want to hit it with WD-40 after but that doesn’t seem right...
Richard Schott never had one rust on me before, been using toro mowers for 20 years
Nice looking mower, and I wonder if it would work better on a thicker blades grass.
Also nice looking single double stripes.
Jon Fokken Jeremy thinks the grass is too thin as well
Is that a Toro striping kit you have on it just bought separately?
Gino20202 no, it’s a checkmate stripe kit from big league lawns.
Good review
Cool vid. What height do you cut?
Jay Firebaugh this cut was at 3.25 inches. “C” on the Timemaster.
Nice RVA, I see you do wide stripes separated by single stipes. With the dounled wheel line in the wide stripe, it almost looks like plaid. Very interesting. My TM is outfitted exactly like yours and I love it. So much so that I sold my Honda HRX VKA. Thanks for the content, enjoy your stuff. Your Chapel Hill Buddy, Erle
ErleZeker thanks for watching and your input, Erle ! Glad you enjoy yours too!
How often do you have to empty the bag out?
Dustin Sloan only when I’m done
@@RVALawnLove awesome got mine today can't wait to give it a go
Can’t what for them to make a electric one. To compete with Greenworks 25” model.
You may want to check to be sure your belt for your blades is tight. That is an issue with those mowers. Lose belt, slow blade speed.
Kerry Merritt thanks for the info!
Nice video. I just bought a timemaster and have only cut with it about 5 times. Overall I love the mower. Not the best cut (maybe underpowered) but a better cut than my cub cadet lawn tractor. The personal pace system is the best. It does seem to run out of gas faster than other mowers I’ve used. I haven’t used the deck wash, I use a power washer to wash my deck off. This mower seems to collect a lot of grass in the deck. I’d like to see a before and after of your deck using the deck wash. Keep up the good videos.
Jarrod Schmidt thanks for the kind words man! I find that sharp blades are a must, other than that, incredible machine
I love the mower just hate the damn cheap height adjustment lever outside of that i love the mower wish it was more heavy duty but other than that i love this mower love the cut heard they have a 12hp
What is the price with honda or Kawasaki engine.
Tks for the video
Mansour Ram I honestly don’t know. My suggestion is to contact a dealer Nd see if they’d even an option to buy. Only other engine I’ve seen is a Kawasaki, and it was a replacement because of leaky seals
@@RVALawnLove tks, ✌🙏
Sweet video Man 😎
jorel smith thanks for watching bud!
Hold on there partner. You use the washout port with the bag attached? That’s not smart.
You know, I never noticed I did that, and nobody has ever said anything. I don’t know if I still do it or not honestly. Never messed up the bag, and still does the job though. Good call
Be prepared to spend money on this thing every year. I've had mine since 14 and constantly breaking down.
+Tundra Guy I’m hoping the new models don’t have the issues you’re having. Thanks for watching!
Good stuff!
toro would never sponsor you after saying blades need to be sharpened every other cut and its the worst cut of any toro..the cut is what is most important to 90% who buy one...Personally i think your grass is more of a challenge ... its probably tough and you cut it high which causes grass to blow around to much...if you went down another 1/2 it would look much tighter...
roadstar499 I appreciate your feedback. I feel like Toro appreciates honesty, personally. You should check out this video here>>th-cam.com/video/8KhvQHnwjBQ/w-d-xo.html
Not sure if you still are doing your video's, or still in business. Anyway here goes, what is the price. I've asked this question on everyones lawn business, you all talk a good talk, but what is the price. It's 2020, so not really expecting a reply. TH-cam, should not be showing these video's this far back in the years, what, 2019, gee get real.
Peter Teo it is currently $1099.00 and that’s the same price I paid wayyyyy back 14 months ago! Lol I still put out a video almost every week. Almost. You should subscribe and watch some more!
It would be a decent mower if it had something other than a Briggs and Stratton.
Andrew M I still haven’t had a single problem with it. Very reliable. Haven’t been able to stall it out yet either
Yo whattup welcome to another Lawn Tip sub
Jacob Streiff thanks!
The blades come dull from the factory because they don't want to get sued by careless people cutting themselves up. Take them out and sharpen them yourself with a 10in Bastard file, you will have the best cut ever! don't use a wheel, removes too much material.
sharpen every other cut.... no chance..fail!
I'm highly disappointed with my toro 30 inch mower it lasted almost 2 years it finally died most expensive pos I ever bought
Ronald Flippo I’m sorry to hear that man
Firsty
Brett's grasscapades as usual my friend!
Brett's grasscapades doesn’t a first from one half of suck brothers incorporated invalidate it?
what are those beautiful pink bushes?
FreightDawg azaleas
FreightDawg beautiful for about three weeks
Get rid of the music!!!
AngeloR674 😐
The motor is weak. No time master, no turf master, no 30 inch X Mark, no way. I have the Ferris FW 15, it’s the only way to go.
Good for residential use