This is how much my VW Id.3 cost me over the 3 years
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I bought my ID.3 Business (Heat Pump, 19“ Andoya, All weather tyres, Matrix LED, bike hitch) in 2020 for 36.000€ (DE incentives already included). I NEVER had ANY serious problem with the car. No breakdown. Only planned dealer appointments for software updates and 2 year maintenance. Minor infotainment issues during the first 6 months were fixed with software updates. ACC software works perfectly since the beginning. Love it. To me the ID.3 after 3.5 years and 47.000km is THE MOST RELIABLE CAR I EVER OWNED. It is fun, not pretentious, reliable and fits my use case extremely well. After testing some alternative EV‘s, I decided to just keep driving it.
Amazing, what software version do you have now? And are you able to do vl2 or. V2h? I am really considering buying a used one very soon after my test drive yesterday!
Thanks for sharing this info, very interesting numbers to compare with my expenses. Verdict, owning new car it's a luxury challenge 😉
Pretty clear that buying the car would have been less expensive. Especially without incentives.
Which is only logical. The leasing companies buy the car too, so it has to be more expensive as the price is the cost of the car plus leasing company running cost plus their profits.
Buying mine.
Thanks for the video, very informative.
the leasing company buy in bulk and get a discount which they keep and lt was sold at the full price.
they are not making really a loss. since they do not but at full price
@@davidsworld5837I never said they make a loss when salesprices aare stable. The recent pricecuts of 5000€ by VW f.E. really hurt them though.
But normally, they are profitable, with the money they make in letting you pay a lot more for the car than buying it yourself. That was my point.
@@davidsworld5837Interesting. Comments disappearing.
My comment also disappeared. I commented that an ICE is more expensive and listed everything. Ending abo.
I actually ordered my id.3 last meek. No leasing for me. Will be delivered in may. Unbelievable discounts currently
That's around 40ct per km for a new car. I had my BMW i3 (4 years old) for around 2 years and did came around 21ct per km, charging cheap then when maingau was 5ct per min. So I think for a new car this sounds about right. When I now look at my ID3 it consumes more, around 20kWh average summer and winter. The i3 was around 16 kWh per 100km. The i3 was weighing a lot less. For my 73k with ID3 I charged 14.700 kWh.
You had the ID.3 so long your beard went grey! 😂
Great summary!
Be aware that if you have a consumption on 170 watt/km. You proberly have to add 200 watt/km thu your charger (minimum 10% charge loss, if it is cold, it heat up the battery during charging. And also if you preheat your car before driving)
The actual charging loss according to my system is not that bad. My ChargePoint Flex keeps records and I know the size of my battery. It’s less than 2kW for a 50kW charge, or 30 cents. Preheating the car? 3kWh when it’s below freezing for a half hour warm-up, or 42 cents. I spend less than $40 a month averaged over a year to drive 10,000km in a coastal climate. That’s about 15% of our total energy bill, including heat and hot water. By comparison, we spend about $120 a month to put fuel in a VW camper driven 6-7,000km a year.
You forgot the „THG-Quote“ in the calculation. Adds up to about 1000€ „cashback“ in 3 years.
I find 17kwh high. With my id.3 in get average of 14 in summer and 17 in winter. But do not exceed 100-105km hour in highways.
In The Netherlands speeding does not give you significant time advantage
you missed a credit, the income from the youtube videos. would have help with some of the costs.
your inspection after 3 yrs would be the same as the UK mot test. which starts at year 3. then every year after.
That's insane. I own older ICE golf-class for few years, it's about $150-200 per month (depending on amount of driving) including oil services and can sell it more or less with the same price as it was bought. No range anxiety, no where-should-I-stop-to-move-on trip planning. But changing tyres by myself.
That does not include the price of the car itself, or it is ancient You have forgotten insurance, road tax etc.
@@jellyd4889 I've including everything, it's about $50 per month for tax+insurance.
My Kia EV6 had service recently, at 60k km: 180 euro. 🤩
i dont realy get leasing tbh. you pay about half the cars value over 3 years and then at the end you stand there with nothing. then you pay for another half car over 3 years, which means you payed for a full car and still have nothing. why not just buy the car with a loan and sell it after 6 years to get half your money back?
It makes sense if you pay less than what it would be worth. There are Leasing deals to be had if a manufacturer wants/has to press cars into the market but doesn't want to lower official prices. The German incentives played a big role to offset the high initial depreciation.
With leasing you can drive new cars and participate in the rapid advancements of battery technology without risk of costly failures due to lack of extended warranties.
in that case it would make sense, but thats just never going to happen, because then the leasing company would go bankrupt.@@abraxastulammo9940
It’s the same discussion with buying or renting. I just ordered a Id 3 via leasing for 220€ a month most of the other costs in the video you have to pay even if you buy the car. So I will pay 5280 to drive my ordered id3 with the move Paket for the next 2 years. After that I can get a new car with all the features that are standard two years from now without the hassle of selling my old car and possibly getting hit with high depreciation of ev vehicle value.
@@tomduke1297 the leasing company of the deals is mostly the manufacturer itself so they can calculate with different values because they know the real value of the cars. That is why they can sometimes offer big discounts. Also you often have to pay smaller interest fees. If I get a car loan for a Id 3 right now I have to pay around 3-5% interest, in the leasing offer I ordered they calculate with 0%. If I had to loan around 50% ~ 20.000€ for 6 years I would have to pay over 3.000€ in interest alone right now.
@@SuperWotmanAlso ordered this leasing-deal. Now I am curious... is the delivery/collection in dresden also included in this rate? If yes, then you got a slightly better deal :)
You might have also forgotten the battery capacity check you did.
Thats very low milage per year, i think the "average" is like 10000-15000km/year and i guess that milage would increase the cost even higher.
Just wish they'd fix the battery modules so I could sell it tbh
Wow that’s expensive
Its cost more to lease tan if you had bought it, and sold it, no? Why people lease instead of buying?
Not really, if you lease without a deal maybe but there are a lot of leasing deals. A lot of the cost in this video you will have to pay even if you buy the car. Additionally most people have to finance a car and can’t just buy it so you have to pay interest on the loan which is between 3-8% right now on a lease deal they mostly calculate with low interest the deal I ordered was o,1%. If you calculate that you have to cover around 50% ~ 20.000€ as a loan you will pay over 4.000€ in interest alone and the risk that the car depreciation is high is also yours and not on the leasing company.
@otman He paid half the price of the car for the lease. 23.000 for a 46.000 car. that car could be sold for 30-35.000 easily. So it would have been cheaper that way i think.
And if people cant buy it in cash, than the cant allow to have that car. They should buy a 4 year old for 30-40% cheaper.
My way of thinking is spend 6 month salary max on any car. That way you can afford any fixes, or addidional costs down the road.
3:50 Chris, you keep mentioning that VW has winter variants of the same rims but I was never able to confirm that anywhere. Not in any forums, dealers etc. Even the rims' part numbers seemed always the same. Are you sure you don't have 2 sets of the same rims?
You can have my summer rims as winter rims. Back on the day they were available with the car.
The black Leon rims I have for winter are different and I don't know if you can have summer tires with those.
@BatteryLife I mean in general. Even your current ID.7 rims. I'm not sure there's such a thing as a winter version of rims. They seem like the exact same rims, no different surface better withstanding salt or whatnot.
I was told the Alloy rims need a special coating for winter.
These days I see advertisements for 150€ for ID3s.
Yes, cool prices. If you are looking for a good, comfortable, reliable car at a reasonable price, this is a no brainer (given you have no special needs an ID.3 cannot provide e.g. pulling a trailer)
Just ordered one last week for 220€ per month it includes the move variant and service cost the duration is 2 years without any upfront costs
It's over. The price has gone up. I think the down payment was huge though...
to someone driving a 2003 diesel (and loving it) driving 500 miles a month (50mpg) that sounds like an insane amount of money. I hope you really appreciated it's shininess.
I hope you appreciate the amount of toxic air pollution, noise and smell you are spreading.
@@unextro I agree that cities massively benefit from electric vehicles, especially after the experience of cycling in London. I don't drive in cities like that as they have a functioning metro system. If you're concerned about global pollution then me buying a new electric vehicle is massively worse than keeping my diesel going as I only do 500 miles a month tops and the footprint of pollution an EV has a huge.
I have no problem with cost ID3 vs e.g. Golf, I have problem with CO2 footprint :-) The footprint CO2 during production ID3 is 19.5 tons CO2, the Golf 1.5 TSI is 10,7 tons CO2. The Difference of footprints is 8.8 tons CO2(!!!) which means the ID3 will be more ecological after 120 000 km!! So if someone has a small annual mileage of their car, it may be more environmentally friendly to buy a Golf-sized gas-efficient car(but not from China where car's production is hardly non-ecological :-) )
Try factoring the carbon cost of manufacturing fuel for your 1.5TSI, rather than tailpipe emissions only.
@@davidcottrell570I did. The one liter costs 1.3 kw. I have also added that to cost of CO2 :-)
@@palusisko However, for every litre for the life of that car, it will continue to pollute. Maybe global warming where you live isn’t so bad yet. Where I live, it’s noticeably worse, year by year, so I bought a Belgium-built XC40. Doubtless in the coming years, there will be all sorts of variants to lithium batteries, but I’m equally certain that the oil industry will continue to spread seeds of doubt about them as they carry on polluting. It’s really about financial survival, not the benefits of one technology over another.
@@davidcottrell570 I just wanted to say that if someone drives 10000 km a year, it will be more environmentally friendly (for now) to buy a small or medium gasoline car than to buy a Tesla 3 (20 tons of CO2) or maybe a Volvo CX30 (18 tons of CO2). It's about living more modestly. Example - if you go on holiday by plane several times a year, no electric car will erase your CO2 footprint for the rest of your life :-) Conversely, if you live more modestly, you can have a Ford F150, but your CO2 footprint will be smaller :-) Within ten years they will come batteries without Lithium, easy to produce, then internal combustion cars will only have their place in special cases..
@@palusisko I’m unfamiliar with which part of mining and manufacturing a lithium-based battery carries this carbon cost, but given I bought an already built car rather than a factory order one, I don’t see how I’m adding to the problem - it would have sold anyway. As for flying, haven’t done that for years. I’m not trying to be preachy, rather I’m trying to save some money and not contribute to the significant global warming problem that’s setting our forests on fire. I mean that literally and it affects the Pacific NorthWest every summer now. We’ve got grandkids, and it’s one heck of a legacy, so splitting hairs about the merits of a cheap gas car vs an electric one doesn’t wash with me, and sorry, but I don’t buy oil industry marketing. I spend less than $40 a month to do 10,000km a year. Try that in even the most efficient ICE.