Game Theory: The ARG That Took 4 Years To SOLVE! (Crow 64)
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Crow 64 was a game we talked about YEARS ago on the channel when it was just a video series. Today we’re diving into the FULL game release that came from this series, Catastrophe Crow! What sort of dark story hides beneath the surface of this old school game? Well theorists… have I got a story for you!
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0:17
“Suffer! Suffer! Suffer! Suffer!”
- Ash and MatPat, 20/07/2024.
Wow. I'm so close to 50k subs
two things
1. dang bots, and
2. I'm pretty sure the date would be the day the episode on GTLive aired
Haha
@@SuperlexPlays Where is the AUTTP bot when you need him?
YES SUFFER!
A horror ARG that deals with how the "protagonist's" actions affected his remaining family is super cool. I love how Nils isn't driven mad or forced down the same path as his father. Instead he learned from what he did and committed himself to being a better father to his own kids. Also the fact that he doesn't forgive his father, but he is willing to talk to him?
This whole ARG just feels a lot more mature than other ones I know, and not in the "adult" blood and gore sense, but rather that Nils feels likes a realistic person trying to get over the trauma of his sister's early death and his father's neglect. You could even take the supernatural elements as a metaphor and have the whole thing just be about Nils' journey to accepting the bad things in his childhood and moving on from them.
It's refreshing to have a story with such a mature and, actually, kinda uplifting ending.
You hit the nail on the head. I do wish there were more games like that but I don't know any unfortunately.
Fr, a story about trying to revive the dead and an intelligent game AI that DOESN'T end with a demon or a serial killer? In 2024? This story is so refreshing
Your quotation marks are wrong. It is only him being the protagonist that is debatable, not that the actions are his. Therefore it should be “The “Orotagonist”’s actions”
It's crazy how a ARG can have a happy ending.
Put it into words better than I ever could, mate! Seeing realistic reactions from fictional characters in a horror story around humans and their grief is so nice to see, since I feel a lot of writers (in general, not just in the horror or ARG genre) kind of lose that, which is hard to capture, so it makes sense. Seeing someone do that feels like a really strong and solid writing feat. :)
Y'know, when Matt announced he retired, I thought of that one scene in KP1 where Master Oogway gives away his staff to Shi Fu. Now I realize, it's more accurate that Matt gave away an infinite tower of worksheets and sticky notes to Tom instead of a wisdom staff.
"This is your problem now" 😂
Stack paper high enough and it'll resemble a staff to someone. This is Tom's staff to bear.
MatPat: *drops years worth of theories, lore, facts and evidence* This is your problem now, I’M OUT!!!
Tom, Lee, Santi, and Amy: Ayo what the fu-
Ei cara , bela foto
It was an emotional moment when MatPat announced his retirement. But now, seeing him on TH-cam here and there is kind of confusing. Why is he still on Game Theory anyway? What's the point of retirement? I thought he was done with TH-cam and ready to move on-to be a father and husband, to be a fan, to be a random theorist on the internet like us. But here he is, still on Game Theory or GTLive. I don't know.
I feel like the imagery of the scarecrow taking the body in the first game shows that the mother ended up taking her off life support, which is a brutal and tough decision. I think that's how their marriage broke apart with his hatred of her tough decision.
Ohhhh, that makes sense now!
oh dang, that actually fits in to the lore really well.
Would explain why he saw her as a monster further, from his perspective she was taking away his children.
That's a keen thought! '👏 Seems legit! 👌
When the world needed it most… Catastrophe Crow Returned
Never needed it to return we need a Mario 64 theory
Fr we waited 3 years for this video and now Matpat isn't even here 😭
@V-e6b can you shut up?
this video was pretty catastrophe.. haha get it??
@@Cheese-wj3qv replying to them makes it even worse
This is so refreshing.
Something that has a sort of final, actual conclusive end with closure.
Poppy and FNAF and Banban feels like these forever horrors, nothing is ever answered or solved. Nothing feels good. It's this nebulous fog of maybe's that will never end.
This was good.
Agreed - the downside of turning these sorts of stories into a whole franchise like with FNAF and the rest, instead of keeping it an effective one-off, is that the in-story suffering and horrors can never truly be allowed to end if you want to keep it relevant, so the audience never gets that catharsis.
The indirect puzzle solving of the CANCER character was so crazy. Connecting dots instead of finding an answer is my favorite part of ARGs.
Even without the brain scan getting reverse image searched, the game itself well hints at it: an object replicating uncontrollably until the game crashes. Sounds like the video game version of cancer, where cells replicate uncontrollably until the host dies.
Manfred demonising his wife as well as the image of Thea being taken away by the scarecrow always made me think that maybe Marta was the one to take their daughter off life support. It wouldn't be uncommon for brain cancer patients to end up brain dead due to intracranial swelling and be on life support despite having no way of recovering. Maybe he never forgave his wife for withdrawing support as he was never able to process that his daughter was dead.
DUDE!! YOU MIGHT BE ONTO SOMETHING!!!
To me as an Aussie, the coloured 'crows' actually look pretty instantly recognisable as a galah and two lorikeets. Maybe he moved to Australia to get away from his past?
I think the other two being colorful is more symbolic of getting away from a dark past into a vibrant new life as opposed to any literal locations or birds.
That would make sense, as the desert level map is shaped like Australia, so maybe Marta left Germany and moved to Australia with Nils.
I guarantee this wasn't intentional, but they are nearly identical to two melanistic rainbow lorikeets 😭
Not u saying this with a cockatoo and a lori outside my house 😭
Mat and ash: “suffer suffer suf-“
Tom: “(sigh) here we go again “
Well now he had to shove and rub his way through this theory (iykyk)
@Joseph_1441wtf
@@goob12309🤨
@goob12309 To anyone that doesn't understand, in the GTLive videos of Catastrophe Crow MatPat said he was "shoving and rubbing" against everything incase of secret rooms.
@@goob12309lol yea (iykyk) 😅
MatPat really wants Tom to suffer through everything he had to go through 😂😂
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@V-e6b oh please no one cares
Matpat turning into rammatra: SUFFER AS I HAVE
“You must suffer… like I have” -MatPat probably
@@victorvirgili4447 MatPat, The Black Silence
Hear me out, in the original game where the 2 scarecrows come to your character after you fall down the stairs, it was supposed to represent Marta and Nils coming to check if Thea was ok. Manfred still saw Marta and Nils as monsters, but he was atleast able to accept the fact they were trying to check on Thea to make sure she was ok.
ooo
Finally, a crow 64 video!!!
Real
@Joseph_1441 REPORTING YOU
Finally a comment like this!!
was about to say that!
WHAT ARE THESE REPLIES DAWG😭😭😭
OMG we waited three years and it’s finally happening boys
…..maybe petscop has hope
I feel you bro, they're never finishing that last petscop theory
We can only dream
@badlydrawnsonic definitely not
@badlydrawnsonicextremely normal and unconcerning replies😁😁😁😁
@@Generic1987i need it to be done 😭😭
13:20
Consider the narrator.
Originally, you were given the story through the eyes of Manfred, depicting others the way he saw them.
Now, you're given the story from Nils' perspective, depicting others the way he saw them.
Neither view is "the truth."
"The truth" lies somewhere in between.
Manfred viewed his wife as an obstacle to his progress in resurrecting his daughter, and saw Nils as assisting her in her obstruction.
Nils was separated from Manfred as a boy and had his mother's perspective impressed onto him as he was raised.
He likely only really remembers his sister getting sick, her passing, his father being stricken by grief, and leaving with his mother.
Everything else he "remembers" about the events were stories from his mother, heavily influencing what he *perceives* to be the truth, but is not.
Kind of an extremely obvious thing to overlook, and pretty scummy to accept one unreliable narrator's perspective but disregard the other's as the lies of some monster.
A father desperately tries to make his family whole again after a tragedy befalls them, albeit misguidedly, his wife leaves and takes his remaining child with her, leaving him alone with his grief that turns into resentment before he spirals downward into the darkness.
The son grows up separated from his father, his memories of him slowly replaced with memories of stories of him, and eventually creates a new version of his father's game, altering it to fit *his* perspective and tell the story as he "remembers" it.
Thank you for typing this out. I didn't really think that Manfred was any villian or monster in this story. Sure he neglected his family after his daughter's death but it was due to immense grief he was dealing with. Not to justify his actions of course but he needed support from rest of his family at such a vulnerable period of his life which he didn't got and hence he ended up killing himself. The whole reason he even built that game was because of his daughter's drawing for him. That game was dedicated for her but then she died and rest is history.
Manfred really wasn’t the bad guy here-just a person whose whole world was shattered, and the overwhelming grief led him down a dark path. I’m glad he found solace in the end.
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. He'd lost his daughter and was trying to deal with his grief, only to have that compounded when his wife left him. Yes, grief meant he wasn't there for his family when he should have been- but arguably, they weren't there for him either. I don't feel like any single person was the sole 'bad guy' or 'monster' in this, just a family messily dealing with a tragedy.
Im glad that even though he wasn't going to forgive him, he still talked to his father. I feel that a lot of games, and storys in general tend to push this idea that if you don't forgive someone you hold a grudge against them.
14:40 What is a legacy? It's planting seeds in a garden you never get to see.
OMG HAMILTON REFERENCE??
I wrote some notes at the beginning of a song someone will sing for me
@@lered1582 America, you great unfinished symphony, you sent for me!
@@Zipxa_Raya142You let me make a difference, a place where even orphan immigrants can leave there fingerprints and riseee up!
MY HAMILTONN SIRENS ARE GOING OFF 🚨
Great job in bringing this obscure game back into focus and presenting a possible conclusion to its story.
Crows, and other corvids, are some of the smartest animals - they pass the mirror test, have a grasp of fluid displacement principles, and the New Caledonian Crow can even use basic tools!
we need to teach them how to build. We just need to make an island only for crows, give them building supplies, and check back in 20 years. I want crow city to happen.
Crows are also strongly associated with grief.
Thanks for telling me potato mine
@@DrDolphina Or how about...Crow Country?
@@sootsprite6407 GOOD IDEA.
There's something about ARGs being officially ended and "solved" after years that just feels so satisfying
16:30 Congratulations! Your Nils has evolved into Matpat!
I remember just binging like every episode of this in one day and then just forgetting about it
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One heck of a reply section here
as a parent my kid getting cancer is about the most devastating thing i can imagine... this one really instantly tugs at the heartstrings.
Is your child cancerous?? o~o
I don't know if anyone has ever talked about it, but a cool detail I realised is that the mothers name sounds like martyr, which is what she was. Her reputation was martyred during Manfred's obsession within the game
Ngl I gasped and clapped my hands like a toddler when I saw this title, FINEALLY a continuation of one of my fav theories
@ZNTPSIGUE well I dident ask for you to reply but here we are. I’m guessing ur in a bad mood due to life events, or mental issues, if so I wish you the best of luck
Me too I looked at the title and flapped by hands and clapped. I'm so happy there is a new part!!
same! literally few days ago I was thinking of rewatching the first theory video from years ago, since it's my fav.. I immediately felt so happy seeing the notification! and surprised too, since I'm not online that often to hear the news of a new game coming up
@V-e6bno, no kids usually can’t! And wanna know what else is just a number? 911.
@@pencilpanicking what did he say
It’s back! After 4 years! dude *XAI96K* is the best thing you said, well done
strong movement on this!!
xAI is doing a great job
This won't save Elon's X
Elon is a smart one with this, faster than anyone else
buying now is avoiding regretting later
Chanting suffer. Of course he wants to make sure Tom goes crazy just like he did
I'm so happy that I finally get an update to the theory that I straight up refused to attempt to solve on my own
Same lol
Matpat: Let’s watch him suffer. *while cheering Tom is gonna suffer*
Tom: *Sigh,*Hear we go again.
Me: Yeah. 😐
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Took care of it.
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I did.
"Legacy.. what is a legacy? It's planting seeds in a garden you never get to see"
The INTERLOPER ARG has been going on for 3 years and it's still not solved. Please cover INTERLOPER. It fits Game Theory since it is about source engine games, but it's not cheap "Dark Room on GM Construct" horror. It's genuinely the most well made ARG I've ever seen. Please cover it.
Wouldn’t that be more Film Theory? You can’t play it.
@@redactedtomits would then be kinda petscop? It wasnt playable but was covered here, but idk
@@redactedtom You can play it, sorta. Anomi made the demos public and you can play them and explore. The Tuesday manifest is being explored as we speak, and you need to actually play a source game to access them, so I think it's game theory.
Also the subject matter is the source game engine, which means game theory is most appropriate.
@@Blopp1878 The demos from the tuesday manifest are all playable and have secrets still. Someone literally found the Mona I think.
@@redactedtom No
IDK why, But 18:40 when father crow transcends beyond realities is very hilarious for some reason...
I'm a bit concerned about my mental health
"Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
BRAINROT, YAAAAY!!!
ducktales nes moon song got me like
9:58 i deadass thought it was gonna be tumor, and then realised its a 5 letter word
i mean, theres entirely still a chance, depending on what english they're using.
since the game is german-based, it's reasonable to believe that they might use UK english, in which case, tumour would fit :)
The Hamilton insert made the theater nerd in me so happy
Im so excited to finnaly see this solved (I haven’t watched it completely yet) but since mat firs covered it I was excited to see it.
Also Ash and Mat yelling “suffer suffer suffer” at Tom was everything.
3:34 I can't believe that Tom actually said "unalive"
TH-cam is horrible
3:50 “Thea” translates to “Crow” in crow language.
The way they chanted “Suffer”
SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER!
Man sorry for your comment getting spammed by bots 😭
Let's watch him S U F F E R
SUFFER! SUFFER! SUFFER! SUFFER! SUFFER! SUFFER!
It's kinda interesting how prevalent the trope of reviving dead children is in these types of media.
Just to name a few, there's Crow 64, Amanda the Adventurer, only cans, and every haunted animatronic in FNAF
Reviving the dead is the oldest human dream I think. Every single religion promises a version of it.
Petition to engrave "Let's watch him suffer" on Tom's grave.
I adore ARGS to their fullist [I tried making one but that failed horribly] so to see stuff like this get talked about is so fulfilling to see!
wait what arg did you make? i would love to see it!
@@Fallenknight9310 it is now a deleted website ^^" but I am currently working on a new one! It is currently still in development because of all the art I have to do for it but it will hopefully be cool :)
@@Fallenknight9310 the ARG is was talking about has now been deleted because it wasn't working but I'm currently working on a new one that is taking longer to make because of the art I'm doing for it ^^"
4:58 no give me the explanation while i eat im too dumb for that
I genuinely gasped when I saw the thumbnail and I had to restrain myself from yelling "THEY FIGURED IT OUT?!" to prevent worrying my family.
Crow 64 is the the type of arg that they solve then make a new one that debunks the older one
this was a very satisfying watch. Your storytelling was incredible Tom - thank you for such a genuinely enjoyable video!
HAMILTON CLIPS?? This is my new favorite episode, sorry Matt
HAMILTON MENTIONED YAAAY
WOOOOOO
They didn't throw away they're shot
YAAAYYYY
@@N_boi978 i see what you did there ;)
New analysts: I thought you were dead
Crow 64: My dead was greatly exaggerated
You have no idea how many times I have watched the first video on repeat never did I think there would be a second one. Hats of to the theorists there at the studio and coming back to this absolute grace of a game!!
The avatar in the original just glitching out like that when they fall down the stairs, it makes sense. The avatar twitches and convulses, like its having a seizure.
14:47
HAMILTON
YESSSSS RAHHHH LES GOOOOO
I LITTERALY SCREAMED LOL
@@Sigmagyatryanreynolds LOL
15:05 that's just animation! nills' representation is compelling. amazing editors as always!
“SUFFER! SUFFER! SUFFER!”
More like, CHAOS CHAOS CHAOS
@@calebehhh-jx7ic *the world revolving starts playing*
You just know that the channel you're watching is incredible when it's narrator encourages you to play and support the creator of the game kust because it was good
I was wondering what happened to this ARG. Thanks for making a new video on it!
P.s. I think this is a perfect way to end Crow 64, it had a sad beginning, but a bitter sweet ending. Unless something else comes out that perfectly continues this story, I think this is the best way to end it for good.
7:15 my record of tabs is 300
🎉🎉
Oh my god
20:16
Father… it’s me Nills… I did it. I found you. You were right where you said you would be. You were there. (altered)
Now tell me that doesn’t sound like something he would tell him.
0:30 no, that’s a magpie thing
-Brought to you by bird theory
crows like shiny things too! i'm pretty sure it's just a corvid thing!
Wow I remember when Adam first started it, used to be obsessed with it. It’s crazy how far it’s come and that it’s finally been fully solved.
"Suffer suffer suffer suffer"
- probably also Scott cawthon when he needs another fnaf theory
9:20 the second I saw the cat heads multiply I INSTANTLY knew it was brain cancer, since cancer cells rapidly multiply. It was so satisfying to hear you call out the other evidence for it though.
Same
SAME
Oh Yeah. Great visual portrayal.
@@MissCaraMint unrelated but as a trained singer, I think it's awesome that you're taking voice lessons and I bet that you'll be amazing! :)
@@JKBisms Why thank you. I did do some really good singing recently. You can find my version of Kløvereng on my channel, and Ive going to be uploading "Poor Wandering One" soon too.
Not sure if anyone has noticed but at 6:58 there is a typo on the bottom of the screen where it says “save” instead of “safe”. I know this is probably a complete nothing-burger, but it would be funny to me if this typo somehow plays into one of MatPats ARG projects he’s working on
0:05 the Tom task!!!
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We've waited for this and now we have it ! Thanks Tom for your sacrifice
I remember the release of the original video, I was waiting for this forever
So, wait, you’re telling me she fell down stairs?
Omori all over again
Thats what I thought lol- 😂
@@AubreyfromOm0riSame 🙊
Down D. Stairs
we warned her bro
17:41 this part reminds me of that one help wanted level in curse of dreadbear, it’s the one were the nightmares appear at the doors and they looking side to side
When they played "Who lives, who dies, who tells your story?" I shouted "YESS"
NO WAY THEY FIGURED IT OUT
@Lala-q1p ur pfp is blatantly stolen and you only have 1 video and 0 subs so i dont wanna hear it
@@The-PokéGangDon't give attention to bots, it only makes them stronger, report them instead.
@@The-PokéGangwhat did they say?
Oh my god Ive actually been waiting for this one, everytime I think about ARGs this one pops into my head
30 seconds ago is IMMACULATE. FINALLY THIS ARG BEING SOLVED should know *XAI96K* is in its prime
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Who?
@@bobandbillI'm assuming it's gotta do with the music arg thing going on, or an inside joke we missed xd
nvm it's a bot promoting crypto. ignore them
The crow 64 vid was and still is one of my favorites, I'm glad it's back
I wanna see GameTheory's take on Little Nightmares, I'm curious to see their opinion on the goings on of The Maw, The Pale City, and the whole of The Nowhere
oh yea
Now it's return ISNT a catastrophe
@ZNTPSIGUE bro do you know the name of the game?
Cool dan heng Profil
Really weird scrolling down to see where the bots steal their comments from
0:59 speaking of Petscop…
WHEN ARE YOU GUYS GONNA FINISH THE SERIES????
I'm pretty sure (but I could be wrong) that MatPat has said that other channels have made better theories on it than Game Theory could ever make, so they decided to not make a final theory so those ones wouldn't be overshadowed by the Game Theory one.
The Mona Lisa got famous because it got stolen. 14:20
Mona” but yeah
@@shannonfatimapaylaga8496 I was using the speaker ai. I will correct my mistake. Thank you.
30 seconds ago is IMMACULATE. FINALLY THIS ARG BEING SOLVED
An ARG with a heckin' happy ending! I thought the day would never come! Very well done.
20:49 "i did it, i found it"
???
@@LanLingPeng fnaf reference
“It was right where you said it would be”
"Father...im going to come find you"
omg I love that you came back to look at Catastrophe Crow!! I remember watching the first theory and waiting for you all to pick it up again. worth it ❤
…..maybe petscop has hope greatest move today was *XAI96K* as you said
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I remember watching the first Crow video when I was 12, and now we are here. Amazing!!
1:22
Tom: “An arg that would slowly fall into obscurity as the internet moved on”
**slowly pans into a FNAF video**
i just rewatched the other crow 64 theory the other day. so glad it's finally back!
"How many times was the Theorists Channels sponsored by Opera?" Yes lol XD
This ARG is underrated NGL.
@ZNTPSIGUE You replied 3 times.
No one asked you to be brought into this world bot
0:53
*Hears bend over* “sigh” *Goes to comments*
Could just be a coincidence but there’s old German lullaby where a man riding on his horse falls into a ditch and is eaten by crows
4:54 you wanna know why i watch these? it’s so I get the solutions immediately, i’m not smart enough to actually solve these
nobody understands how excited i am for this sequel
Don't reply to the bots just report them and only report them
@@becauseYES9999dude. One of your comments seemed like a bot made it. I looked at your channel tho and you sem legit.
In all honesty, I never forgot about catastrophe crow, it has been one of my favorite game theory videos ever and I’m so happy that it’s getting another video.
As a German, the way Tom says "Nils" will never stop to be funny
Yaeh, me too!
Same
8:44 skip sponsorship
This is possibly the most well thought out, depressing ARG game I think I have ever seen and I absolutely love it
My theorist brain is fried... There is an audio glitch at 7:49 when Tom says the first "pages" in "pages and pages" and I just went straight to a spectrum analyser.
I know I'm not the only one who's been waiting for another Game Theory video on Catastrophe Crow
i am only just now realizing i was in this video at all oh my god hello i saw this video right after it came out but genuinely didnt notice yall used footage from my videos and im incredibly happy you all did
Hi
Interesting perspective, got me thinking!
12:09 right before this point I got a ad and said to my self we only have seen the pov of the father what we know is what he told us