Just to point out, while a flatline is shorthand for someone dying in the hospital, but it’s also what you get if you remove all the sensors for the heart monitor
17:09 Afton just being a deranged, psychotic killer is basically what the entire FNAF community thought of him between the first 3 FNAF games when the story was just focused on the 5 missing children and the puppet. It's nice that the possibility of this original idea being valid is still decent.
It is really probable that he _is_ just deranged, and that the death of one of his kids, that be Elizabeth or CC, may the universe know, drove him to the point of insanity.
It's almost like MatPat is a sleeper agent except it's FNAF lore related. Even in retirement anytime "Lore" or "crying child" is spoken he awakens and rushes to his recording closet.
Hyper droid "allegedly" has already solved the foxy grid from the logbook claiming the crying child's name to be Dave. It was a popular name in the 80's
yep... i haven't watch to this channel anymore and even unsubscribed after MatPat was gone, then when i saw "ft MatPat" my hands just tap the video and watch it with my full attention
I love that Mat literally says, "Hey guys, you know how I've helped with making everything complicated? What if it isn't?" True retirement vibe, acceptance
Cassidy would seem to make sense when it's mentioned in Ruin no one ever visited her parties. But Gregory was a character that was still near impossible to make sense of but if there is a second child in golden Freddy, wouldn't that be Gregory? He's the unidentifiable character in Ruin, not only that he appears in the body cavity, like he was stuffed in it. Couldn't that explain the body stuffed in the golden Freddy suit, the one child that keeps getting over looked due to some incomplete secrets. Not only that Cassidy and Gregory have a connection to each other, meaning they could be part of the same animatronic. Gregory being the eyes and Cassidy being the body. As you play ruin who's the one that can escape the megaplex, because they can see. Who's the one that kept on falling into the darkness no matter how hard they tried to escape, meaning they are part of the body. Even in the ending pictures where Gregory carries around rockstar Freddy's head, depicting that he probably needs the head in order to go anywhere. Meaning leaving the body behind, Cassidy.
I highly doubt it was "too big" this Freddy series has been going on for quite sometime and he wanted to be apart of it. I couldn't image him hiring somebody who isn't able to do the job.
At around 9:00 about the 2 glowing eyes, I think there is a way simpler explanation of why there arent 2 spirits in golden freddy or at least an easy way to debunk the 2 glowing eyes: There literally are no 2 glowing eyes. Look at all the other 2nd eyes, they have light/reflections in them aswell. Golden freddy's 2nd eye just looks a bit brighter, because the head is in the dark and this is a 3D render. All glowing eyes have huge obvious glowing circles around them. And golden freddy also has only 1 of those glowing halos.
Fun fact: the noise used for a flatline doesn't really occur when the patient dies, that's a myth caused by media needing a clear indicator for audiences to recognize since flatlines are silent, that noise *actually* happens when the leads are disconnected(which would support the theory assuming Scott knew this bit of information)
That's actually pretty interesting. Though exactly BECAUSE the flatline is associated with death so much, especially in media, I think it still is a bit of a stretch
So glad this comment was here, because a flatline doesn't always necessarily mean the patient died. The patient could have been disconnected from the machine... which supports Dual Process' theory.
13:05 While a "flatline" sound is TV/movie shorthand for someone dying in hospital, the only way you actually get that is if the ECG leads are *_disconnected_* - such as if William Afton grabbed the kid and left the hospital.
Yeah, exactly. Matpat said it's over complicated but it's actually really simple: William talks with Cassidy who's on life support "I will put you back together" and then he dissconnects all cables and "kidnaps" his own kid and takes him to experiment with remnant and new giving him new life and body.
I appreciate that MatPat is willing to still jump in on videos he's interested in doing... it helps remind us that he's literally right there in charge of all these channels and hasn't actually walked away from it all
I'm not at all surprised that he came back for this episode. He said specifically that it wasn't a complete retirement, and that he'd still be involved. In his Goodbye Internet video, during his teary analogy of him being "GrandPat", he said that even if he wouldn't see us often, he would still see us on occasion. His appearance here wasn't *totally* out of left field
Dual Process Theory video is so good though, the 2 hours made me feel like I binged watched old school FNAF theories! It even answers the question about the locked box, balloon boy (of all things lol) and how Michael is the one Willian Afton should not have been killed.
Heart monitors also go flat when the sensors are removed. if afton stole his son in the hospital to hide him away for his remanent experiments. itd explain the "missing" cause he went missing from the hospital.
they literally said this in the video that afton said his kid went missing from the hospital that's why the police bought it and they just skipped over that and said crying child going missing wasn't backed up
@@Run_th3_tracki’m pretty sure that was a theory instead of actual lore. purple guy never had dialogue with police in the game about his missing son i don’t think.
9:35 because there never were supposed to be two lights (souls) inside of Golden Freddy's mask. It's just the lighting. Notice how the regular Freddy mask looks similar. There's a little bit of light shining out of the other eye. Not as much as Golden Freddy's, but still. Also notice how the bloom effect for the masks is only in one eye each, INCLUDING Golden Freddy. It was never meant to signify two souls. Just one.
I'm just imagining Scott sitting back in his chair like "I wonder where this is going, that's wrong, nope, that part was right before don't change it, not that either..."
YOU WILL SUFFER AS I, RAMMATRA, HAVE SUFFERED. YOUR TORMENT WILL OUTLAST THE STARS. WHEN THE UNIVERSE DWINDLES INTO DUST, THERE YOU WILL BE, STILL SUFFERING, AS I HAVE… SUFFERED.
My theory about why the crying child doesnt have a grave is because he doesnt need one in context.All the missing children got killed by afton and then never rested.The graves symbolize a sort of "justice" where they can rest but since crying childs death wasent a murdur but a horrible accident,he has no need for justice but like the stichwraith stays with cassidy to help her with hers.
Idk if anyone will see this, and I'm probably not right about this, but who's to say that the Crying Child died in an actual hospital. In real life, when there's situations where someone's most likely not going to live, sometimes the family can request to just have them and basic medical equipment moved to the home, My Mom's side did this when my Grandfather had a brain tumor and was in a coma, so there's a possibility that, assuming this takes place in Hurricane just like the Books version did, that he requested that, allowing for the flatline to take place in a secluded place. I don't know how much it helps but since it's something that probably needs to be taken into account, I figured I'd share even if it probably won't be seen.
Ok so I have this wild theory that in the game into the pit, the father of Oswald is the freddy mask dude that helped in the prank on the crying child. Also I have some sort of evidence:1th when you go into the attic a freddy mask falls down 2th His father has bad memories with the place and never talks about it, anyway that's all I can think about+I didn't finish the game yet.
I like this idea a lot. The skin and hair color matches too. It would be a satisfying narrative for each era of the fnaf franchise to be about the four boys responsible for the bite of 83
Sometimes I wonder what old matpat would say If what?,If he could see the way fnaf is today He’d prolly say that everything is a robot what’s his name, what’s his name
To me, Golden Freddy’s “two glowing eyes” has always looked like just one glowing eye, and the other one only looks lit up because of the angle combined with the light from the other eye. In the other animatronics, their glowing eyes have a sort of ring of light around them, but Golden Freddy’s right eye is the only one with the ring
But if the angle was the thing then why don't Bonnie, Freddie(especially Freddie cause he is at the same angle) or Chika also have 2 bright glowing eye sockets if its simpky the glow from the main light illuminating it?
I always figured he’d come back for big theories like this. He’s “retired” but he’s still involved. He even said on GT Live he’s still busy just not swamped with work.
It's subtle, but Matt's narration throughout this video is more relaxed than his normal "theory" voice. A cool nod to the fact that even though he's here helping to theorize, ultimately, he's still retired.
I had an idea of inverting all letters coordinates of the name Cassidy on the word search, considering how much of a parallel they already are. I could see it working, but that's just a theory a game theory! Thanks for reading.
I feel so comforted to have Matpat back for a bit, man, his presence just MADE the channel tbh, love the new hosts but yeah, feels different when Matpat's around
I totally believe the "Cassidy Afton" theory. It would explain why William was panicking while being chased by the fifth spirit. It was his own son coming back to haunt him. Any dad would have been terrified by that. Also, the "hospital" argument. The IV bags might be there, but it's still in the Afton household, therefore, Afton could have experimented on the body of his son after he died.
@@LordOfElysium What? I wasn't talking about anyone going missing, I was saying that Boys who have the name Cassidy tend to use shortened versions of it rather than the full name.
Honestly, the flatline kind of works with DPT's theory, since it wouldn't just go off if the child is dead. If Afton did take the Crying Child out of the hospital to try and get his soul to live on as Golden Freddy, disconnecting him from the life support systems would also cause them to flatline. And the fact that it happens immediately after he says "I will put you back together" seems pretty damning.
As someone who monitors cardiac monitors in hospitals, this makes sense to me. We use a 5 lead and removing even 1 lead can cause a "flat line" even if the patient is totally fine
Yeah but it'd also alarm the employees, immediately, cause they'd hear it Then again it was in the 1980s so, hm....or he was taking CC off life support for 'a funneral' or smth idk
@@torinokami8431 you also need to acknowledge that flatline=dead is a stretch too. cuz what it’s mean is that heartbeat moniter has been disconnected. and that’s that. either 1.dead or 2. disconnected but still alive.
Not really, think about who we’re talking about here, William Afton. This man set up a plushie that talks to his son to keep him safe and make him feel better, and not just one, but like 10. He talks to CC throughout all the Fnaf 4 mini games so that CC doesn’t get hurt. After finding out he’s hurt, almost dead, he would be desperate to bring his son back no matter the costs
I think what could be viable instead of Cassidy being kidnapped from the hospital, is William and his spouse brought him home for a kind of hospice. If the Sister Location area was established by this point, it would make it a lot easier for him to steal Cassidy away from his bed instead of from a hospital. If he was in a coma and hope was gone for him, it's arguable that the Aftons might have been able to get the equipment to monitor him at home. It isn't unheard of, just uncommon.
My mom's a nurse who has worked a lot in hospice and indeed it is quite common. Especially when the patient is in their final days and prefer to spend them at home.
Hear me out crying child is in purgatory where he relives the animatronics hunting him that’s why we could end back up that’s why no hears the breathing and footsteps they are loud and we can’t yell for help if we could would be out of this mess that’s also why nightmare is only in fnaf 4
Now, I'm not a professional, but I had a thought. Maybe not every kid that gets killed can successfully possess a suit? So there could be so many more deaths than we could be aware of, basically untrackable ones. Making counting kills kinda useless, as all that really matters to us is successful soul trapping/transfers/etc. Not well flushed out, and I'm sure others have thought this, but just a thought I had watching this.
That’s highly unlikely because it’s been determined that remnant will cause the soul to possess whatever it is. And if the remnant gets in the suit we know where that leads
I really like Tom and the energy he brings to the channel. But hearing Matpat's voice again on this channel is so comforting and hits right in the feels
9:48, its very easy, the lights went out because the spirits arent haunting the animatronics anymore, cassidy is in the afterlife with afton. ofcourse her light would be out.
@@finixmoon127 It was just a waiter... or was he? 🤨 Obviously in the second movie of fnaf he's gonna be the antagonist for sure, even worse than William
I mean I think there is nothing special with BB. He was just a weird idea Corporate came up with to give kids balloons. Also Scott just had a bad idea for the design that also made Foxy harder to deal with. I wish it was a little Pirate guy, maybe a Kit?
I really like the idea of William just being a crazy killer with no dramatic or reasonable motivation. It reminds me of the first years of fnaf when we didn't know anything and the idea of a madman was out there killing children just because he could do it was just terrifying.
I miss the days when he was just PURPLE GUY and nameless. But just doing it for fun is a little unsatisfying, and kinda reminds me of The Box thing, with Scott changing its contents.
*Interior - Museum - Far Future* Curator - This low resolution gif or jif depicts the early hominid known as Mat or Pat... and here we have a rudimentary pictogram called lol which represents a humanoid figure cheering with arms raised.
I feel like it should be mentioned that while yes, dying in hospital would result in the flatline sound, the same could be said about kidnapping his kid out of the hospital. If he unhooked his kid the equipment would stop sensing the body's vitals thus creating the flatline sound until shut off.
Also let's not forget: Flatlining only indicates that the BRAIN has ceased to function... His heart could still have been beating. His _body_ could still have been alive until he was taken off of life support. And since the brain was the part that got chomped, it makes sense that it would stop first. I could be wrong here, idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just some small points to add on. The "ladies-in-waiting" line is preceeded with "I am your ladies-in-waiting". Which is odd grammatically, but does indicate a multi soul animatronic can use singular tense like "I" or "me" as well as multiple tense. The ghost having tears being the indicator of Cassidy is complicated, because Charlie's ghost is also depicted the exact same way in the Fnaf 2 Puppet Death mini game, as well as the other kids you take cake to in the other minigames leading up to Happiest Day. As much as it complicates telling the souls appart, they all seem to be depicted the same way in those mini games.
mini theory that may just be entirely over complicated, dual process theory proposed that the fnaf 4 minigames are Cassidy/crying child reliving the days leading up to his death, so what if the hair in the suit is actually him inside of it? Seeing a vision of his fate mixed with his passed memories? Also, for the love of the gods, there is only one light in the golden freddy suit and this is driving me insane, the lights in the suits are clearly represented by those glowing rings around the eye, the "other light" is just the light illuminating the interior. If there's two spirits in golden freddy then there must be two in normal freddy and bonnie too because we can clearly see light in their other eye, even chika sort of, this is just how light works guys. If there were two spirits there would be two light halos in both eyes. If anything Cassidy/crying could entirely be the vengeful spirit because he could have survived the hospital but his dad pulled him out for whatever reason. I would also like to point out the fact that the IV drip, flowers, and pills doesn't need to mean he was in the hospital, they could've been brought to him in his own house because William didn't want Cassidy/crying child in the hospital for whatever reason, those could all literally just be beside his bed.
Until you can explain how the rest of the heads don’t have their lights making the interior glow, then I’m not amused by you trying to simplify FICTION that can be as detailed or mundane as the creator desires
dude i've literally been saying the thing about golden freddy only having one light on since fnaf 3 and i havent seen anyone else corroborate that ever
13:00 Here's the thing tho, if someone just DISCONNECTED from the monitor, it would be a flatline sound too. And the dialogue after can be imagined like this: He pulls him out of the hospital and claims that he will put Cassidy together
@@bonD6002 But that doesn't really matter either way because the flatline whether it indicates no more heartbeat or whether it indicates it has been unplugged would be the same.
The Crying Child literally disappears between darkness after the sprite "gives up". That looks like dying to me. Also, the fact that the incident occurred in broad daylight, you know... Like, the theory is cool, but it does not make much sense for him to be the 5th.
There’s one thing about this especially that keeps me from believing it. It’s “the one you should not have killed line” that was said to afton and William never killed his child so Cassidy would have to be someone else because even though crying child said what was happening I don’t think he’d be so vengeful to his own father. Also I know names don’t have gender but Cassidy just seems like an odd name for a male character but I could just be naive on that one but still I can’t see Williams own child being so vengeful to his own dad considering he’s supposed to be the good natured one.
Matpat: I’m done
Golden Freddy: We’re done when I say we’re done
Guess William isnt the only person that is trapped by Golden freddy
"i didn't hear no bell"
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MatPat: I’m finally retired.
FNAF: I said we theorize today!
Bravo Vince!
He can never escape even in retirement
yeah
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Matpat: I always come back
poor guy was dragged into the FNAF purgatory like golden freddy did to Afton
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Just to point out, while a flatline is shorthand for someone dying in the hospital, but it’s also what you get if you remove all the sensors for the heart monitor
Yeah
Also technically it doesn't mean someone is brain dead, it means that their heart stopped pumping, so they can still be resuscitated
“Game Theory ft. MatPat” is probably the funniest thing I’ve read all day
@@FlecksAUTTP-v9i This one is alot "tamer" than the usual,still annoying though.
He is game theory
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Fnaf’s lore: *gets changed*
MatPat: I sense a great disturbance in the force
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Real
May the Freddy be with you.
"Throughout the games and theories, i, alone, am the one you should NOT have killed" -Golden Freddy, 1983
@@DaDirtBlock amen
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17:09 Afton just being a deranged, psychotic killer is basically what the entire FNAF community thought of him between the first 3 FNAF games when the story was just focused on the 5 missing children and the puppet. It's nice that the possibility of this original idea being valid is still decent.
The books support that theory too
It is really probable that he _is_ just deranged, and that the death of one of his kids, that be Elizabeth or CC, may the universe know, drove him to the point of insanity.
Matpat’s in so deep that the Lore literally summoned him out of retirement
Matpat thought he was deep underground
But the lore was deeper
Fnaf ruin ending is where Matpat be heading
Yes
@@Real_Potato_Manway way deeper down
@@glamrockfreddyfazbear2035 😂😂😂😂
It's almost like MatPat is a sleeper agent except it's FNAF lore related. Even in retirement anytime "Lore" or "crying child" is spoken he awakens and rushes to his recording closet.
"FNAF" is MatPat's MKUltra activation phrase
The...fourth closet? 😂
MatPat 2024: “I am officially retiring from Game Theory.”
MatPat 2024: “I always come back!”
He may try, but that dang golden bear will always find him and drag him back
Good one I like it
Matpat in March: "I am officially retiring from Game Theory."
Matpat in July of the very same year: "HELLO INTERNET!"
this reminds me of that one springtrap and matpat image
Let's hope no kids go missing
Hyper droid "allegedly" has already solved the foxy grid from the logbook claiming the crying child's name to be Dave. It was a popular name in the 80's
“You’re supposed to be on some spiritual retreat”
Golden Freddy: “Namaste.”
“And you’re supposed to be dead!”
MatPat: “I got better?”
Lol
"Me too"
"WHAT THE FU-"
lol, now I wanna watch it again.
Nama go **** yourself.
(I'm scared to swear on youtube😂)
@@deletodraw1944 you're not funny
Tom: You agreed to stay away!!
Matpat: I lied.
Star killer reference
@@AngelRamirez-qp7uuFORCE UNLEASHED GO BRRR
Force unleashed forever!
That’s the instagram post I came here from😂
*FORCE UNLEASHED*
Matpat fr said
"I ALWAYS COME BACK!"
I havent watched game theory in so long, i was glad to watch this episode
Same
Same
14 hours ago...
@@elcalabozodelandroide2 3mins ago pookie
yep... i haven't watch to this channel anymore and even unsubscribed after MatPat was gone, then when i saw "ft MatPat" my hands just tap the video and watch it with my full attention
20:44 fun fact: On Tom’s list it says “what’s in the box” the funny part is that Scott himself has actually stated that he forgot what’s in the box
“You agreed to stay away!”
MatPat: “I lied.”
I literally came from that meme xD
Me yo bro
just saw that video lol
Yall from the Meme Asylum channel?
@@Dynaz_2095 yeahhhh
Tom : you are supposed to be dead
Matpat : my death was ... greatly, exaggerated
The Lost World?
@@katiehanson2290megamind
"So your the punk I heard about"
Megamind
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Fnaf to matpat:
“You couldn’t live with your own failure. And where did that lead you? Back to me”
“I thought by eliminating half of TH-cam, the other half would thrive…. But you’ve shown me that’s impossible l”
@@KKORAS_”I thought by splitting you into 4 hosts, TH-cam would thrive…”
@@KKORAS_ "As long as there are those that remember what was, there always be those who are unable to accept what can be. They will resist. . ."
@@CDRChinYT yep, we're all kinds of stubborn.
@@stupidron7108 "I'm thankful. . .Because now, I know what I must do."
It's Dave. no joke, the crying child is called Dave
i can't believe this comment has so few likes. this needs to be brought to their attention asap
@@moveslikemacca agreed
🤚 ❤
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I am curious how you found that out
Wait it's not Evan Afton oh man
I love that Mat literally says,
"Hey guys, you know how I've helped with making everything complicated? What if it isn't?" True retirement vibe, acceptance
Tom: I thought you were dead
Mat: I ALWAYS COME BACK
skibidi
Matt is Michael Afton
Mat: My death was… greatly exaggerated
nice one
@HELPY-GO-BRRRerm actually it is 🤓☝️
Matpat: I always come back
William afton: that’s my line
you are both trapped by golden freddy in one sense or another
MatPat: I always come back
William afton: that’s my line!
MatPat: Not anymore!
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8:43 Its so nice to hear mat's voice on this channel again 🙂
This is about what I was expecting to happen after Matt’s retirement, he’d show up every once and a while.
specially if it's about fnaf
@@runningthemeta5570 GTlive is still all matt, he never went anywhere. He's not retired, that's all an exaggeration to boost discussion/engagement
Same
That's what he said lol you are not special
@@Parallelocamwell hes kinda retired
MatPat: I quit.
FNAF: Wait for the timer to stop. 22 minutes left.
Outer Wilds refrence?
Goat game @@totallyrandompersob1664
Outer wilds reference?
Outer Wilds reference?
Outer wilds reference?
MattPatt: I'm retiring!
Golden Freddy: And I took that personally!
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Cassidy would seem to make sense when it's mentioned in Ruin no one ever visited her parties. But Gregory was a character that was still near impossible to make sense of but if there is a second child in golden Freddy, wouldn't that be Gregory?
He's the unidentifiable character in Ruin, not only that he appears in the body cavity, like he was stuffed in it. Couldn't that explain the body stuffed in the golden Freddy suit, the one child that keeps getting over looked due to some incomplete secrets. Not only that Cassidy and Gregory have a connection to each other, meaning they could be part of the same animatronic. Gregory being the eyes and Cassidy being the body. As you play ruin who's the one that can escape the megaplex, because they can see. Who's the one that kept on falling into the darkness no matter how hard they tried to escape, meaning they are part of the body.
Even in the ending pictures where Gregory carries around rockstar Freddy's head, depicting that he probably needs the head in order to go anywhere. Meaning leaving the body behind, Cassidy.
Matpat: im retired now
Literally like 4 months later: never mind im back for the fnaf lore!
Real he can’t escape
You couldn't live with your failure and where did that bring you... back to me.
- Freddy to MatPat probably
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Scott to matpat more likely
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Honestly the idea of MatPat making cameos when the the theory being tackled is too big to be tackled by the new hosts is very cool
It’s like past avatars taking over when the current one is overwhelmed
@@sebastianmaregattii love this idea 😂
I highly doubt it was "too big" this Freddy series has been going on for quite sometime and he wanted to be apart of it. I couldn't image him hiring somebody who isn't able to do the job.
its like hes "the guy you call when stuff gets bad" Hahaha😆
At around 9:00 about the 2 glowing eyes, I think there is a way simpler explanation of why there arent 2 spirits in golden freddy or at least an easy way to debunk the 2 glowing eyes: There literally are no 2 glowing eyes. Look at all the other 2nd eyes, they have light/reflections in them aswell. Golden freddy's 2nd eye just looks a bit brighter, because the head is in the dark and this is a 3D render. All glowing eyes have huge obvious glowing circles around them. And golden freddy also has only 1 of those glowing halos.
He always comes back...
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@@RealFakeBox But its really friggin annoying tho >:(
"I Always come back"
The way matpat "we'll see about that" almost makes an adult man cry.
@@AUTTPPeppinoSpaghetti-h7n thanks
Same bro
Amen
@catzlol655Or you’ll what
@YFGACATSLAYER2 no you didnt
dual process theory cooked so hard they brought matpat back from retirement 😭
Fr 😭
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Relax
Well, that’s gonna secure their name for TH-cam history for sure!
@NTR-m6t 😐😐
0:15 It would've been crazy if MatPat changed his PNG😂
Fun fact: the noise used for a flatline doesn't really occur when the patient dies, that's a myth caused by media needing a clear indicator for audiences to recognize since flatlines are silent, that noise *actually* happens when the leads are disconnected(which would support the theory assuming Scott knew this bit of information)
That's actually pretty interesting. Though exactly BECAUSE the flatline is associated with death so much, especially in media, I think it still is a bit of a stretch
So glad this comment was here, because a flatline doesn't always necessarily mean the patient died. The patient could have been disconnected from the machine... which supports Dual Process' theory.
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I came here to say this, but I'm glad to see there's a whole mob of us ready to correct MatPat 😂
@@CanyonALynnOr he passed away so they unplugged the stuff
Everyone: You're supposed to be dead!
MatPat: I got better?
@NTR-m6tI regret doing that. I hate you.
@@SpringJohnny same bro
@NTR-m6tHell has a special spot for you🤗
@NTR-m6t I hope your bed is wet and warm
Was that a teen wolf reference?
Matpat: I’m done
Golden Freddy: sure you are
Matpat: ok ill go out of retirement
Golden Freddy: heheheheh, u can't escape me.
16:04 What if there never was any lore and scott just sees the community scramble about finding clues like a dog chasing its own tail.
13:05 While a "flatline" sound is TV/movie shorthand for someone dying in hospital, the only way you actually get that is if the ECG leads are *_disconnected_* - such as if William Afton grabbed the kid and left the hospital.
Oh wow, that’s a fascinating point!!
They get disconnected when the person dies too tho, so it's not really proof
Yeah, exactly. Matpat said it's over complicated but it's actually really simple:
William talks with Cassidy who's on life support "I will put you back together" and then he dissconnects all cables and "kidnaps" his own kid and takes him to experiment with remnant and new giving him new life and body.
@@bonD6002 But William saying "I will put you back together" just before flatline is a proof
UNDERRATED
I appreciate that MatPat is willing to still jump in on videos he's interested in doing... it helps remind us that he's literally right there in charge of all these channels and hasn't actually walked away from it all
He’s back baby!!!
He is I'm pretty sure, just in more of a managerial and supervisory roll instead of the one recording and writing everything.
I'm not at all surprised that he came back for this episode. He said specifically that it wasn't a complete retirement, and that he'd still be involved. In his Goodbye Internet video, during his teary analogy of him being "GrandPat", he said that even if he wouldn't see us often, he would still see us on occasion. His appearance here wasn't *totally* out of left field
Dual Process Theory video is so good though, the 2 hours made me feel like I binged watched old school FNAF theories! It even answers the question about the locked box, balloon boy (of all things lol) and how Michael is the one Willian Afton should not have been killed.
Heart monitors also go flat when the sensors are removed. if afton stole his son in the hospital to hide him away for his remanent experiments. itd explain the "missing" cause he went missing from the hospital.
Yo this guys cooking something
you MIGHT be cooking
Tru
they literally said this in the video that afton said his kid went missing from the hospital that's why the police bought it and they just skipped over that and said crying child going missing wasn't backed up
@@Run_th3_tracki’m pretty sure that was a theory instead of actual lore. purple guy never had dialogue with police in the game about his missing son i don’t think.
Us: “Did you die?”
Matpat: “Sadly, yes… but I lived!”
Pass me a Lego blunt my guy
@monishsamartha-sl3yp Buck is the OG Dinosaur trainer!
Ice age3 reference
Everyone: I watched you die
MatPat: I got over it
Hm, a Fortnite meme used as a metaphor. Nice.
He always comes back...
@@EclipseZthHELP FR
9:35 because there never were supposed to be two lights (souls) inside of Golden Freddy's mask. It's just the lighting. Notice how the regular Freddy mask looks similar. There's a little bit of light shining out of the other eye. Not as much as Golden Freddy's, but still. Also notice how the bloom effect for the masks is only in one eye each, INCLUDING Golden Freddy. It was never meant to signify two souls. Just one.
"Call me William because I always come back"
-MatPat
I'm just imagining Scott sitting back in his chair like "I wonder where this is going, that's wrong, nope, that part was right before don't change it, not that either..."
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FR LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
He's got a wheel, a dart board, and a D20 that's how he makes all of the lore decisions.
I bet he just comes up with random things and leaves matpat to solve it and create lore for him without matpat even knowing😂😂😂
Tom(Jokingly): I’ve they’ve already solved fnaf for us, can I retire?
Matpat: YOU WILL SUFFER AS I HAVE SUFFERED
Lol imagine searching for theories 24/7 😱😩😧😩
YOU WILL SUFFER AS I, RAMMATRA, HAVE SUFFERED. YOUR TORMENT WILL OUTLAST THE STARS. WHEN THE UNIVERSE DWINDLES INTO DUST, THERE YOU WILL BE, STILL SUFFERING, AS I HAVE… SUFFERED.
you will suffer as I have from overwatch
@@Mushboom37 he says you will suffer as i have is his ult
@@Genasagiri44 yeah i know dude that was his april fools voiceline
My theory about why the crying child doesnt have a grave is because he doesnt need one in context.All the missing children got killed by afton and then never rested.The graves symbolize a sort of "justice" where they can rest but since crying childs death wasent a murdur but a horrible accident,he has no need for justice but like the stichwraith stays with cassidy to help her with hers.
Idk if anyone will see this, and I'm probably not right about this, but who's to say that the Crying Child died in an actual hospital. In real life, when there's situations where someone's most likely not going to live, sometimes the family can request to just have them and basic medical equipment moved to the home, My Mom's side did this when my Grandfather had a brain tumor and was in a coma, so there's a possibility that, assuming this takes place in Hurricane just like the Books version did, that he requested that, allowing for the flatline to take place in a secluded place. I don't know how much it helps but since it's something that probably needs to be taken into account, I figured I'd share even if it probably won't be seen.
You should check the og theory, they explain this too with how when a lobotomy is performed its recommended for the patient to go home
Tbh i always thought the crying childs name was Christopher Afton.
it would explain the iv and pills in the bedroom
Its NORMAN, just search@@Richard-qi5pt
@@Richard-qi5pt wasnt it evan or was just a name given to him?
So proud of the game theory team for collabing with smaller youtubers like this matpat guy
Yeah, he seemed like a natrual. I think he's gonna go places.
He almost seems like he could run a channel like this one
@@zrockey77nah, that could never happen
@@emilybarclay8831eh, debatable
Sorry to burst y’alls bubble, but just search matpat up
Matpat took "i always come back" to another level😂
@TechnoZNTP-by4diShut up you fake Technoblade, you only have 2 subscribers, I have more than you, and so does MatPat (on GT Live)
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without a doubt my friend
Stolen
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Ok so I have this wild theory that in the game into the pit, the father of Oswald is the freddy mask dude that helped in the prank on the crying child. Also I have some sort of evidence:1th when you go into the attic a freddy mask falls down 2th His father has bad memories with the place and never talks about it, anyway that's all I can think about+I didn't finish the game yet.
I like this idea a lot. The skin and hair color matches too. It would be a satisfying narrative for each era of the fnaf franchise to be about the four boys responsible for the bite of 83
Matpat in march 2024: "Im retiring from game theory"
Matpat in July 13: "Guess whos back? Back again,"
Matt is back, tell a friend
Guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, ha HA ha
Sometimes I wonder what old matpat would say
If what?,If he could see the way fnaf is today
He’d prolly say that everything is a robot
what’s his name, what’s his name
How many little kids wanna act like Greg-or-y?
My transgender cat is siamese
To me, Golden Freddy’s “two glowing eyes” has always looked like just one glowing eye, and the other one only looks lit up because of the angle combined with the light from the other eye. In the other animatronics, their glowing eyes have a sort of ring of light around them, but Golden Freddy’s right eye is the only one with the ring
Yeah. It's like a Jack-O-Lantern. You don't need two candles to light up two eyes.
I 100% agree. Freddy and foxy both have a similar amount of light in their other eye but nobody ever mentions it.
But if the angle was the thing then why don't Bonnie, Freddie(especially Freddie cause he is at the same angle) or Chika also have 2 bright glowing eye sockets if its simpky the glow from the main light illuminating it?
@@JurisBladesoooooo why wouldn’t I apply to oh idk, the other 4 Jack o lantern like heads
@@enochgraham4957 selection bias
Me: Aren’t you supposed to be retired?
MatPat: My retirement was greatly exaggerated
Not a megamind reference…metro-matpat
MatPat: So, you're the punk I've heard about. (Wind burst)
Dual process theory:there is no Easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy, and there is no 7th spirt
Imagine making a theory so good MatPat comes out of retirement to debunk it 😂
Fr💀
I always figured he’d come back for big theories like this. He’s “retired” but he’s still involved. He even said on GT Live he’s still busy just not swamped with work.
@NTR-m6tRagebait bot… tsk tsk…
@@MushroomyPlayzYT just report the comment.
I am convinced Matpat hear voices of FNAF lore eerily calling him back to unsolve the mystery when he goes to sleep
He’s got a little Freddie funko like the green goblin mask in the corner
It's subtle, but Matt's narration throughout this video is more relaxed than his normal "theory" voice. A cool nod to the fact that even though he's here helping to theorize, ultimately, he's still retired.
I had an idea of inverting all letters coordinates of the name Cassidy on the word search, considering how much of a parallel they already are. I could see it working, but that's just a theory a game theory! Thanks for reading.
Matpat: i sleep
Golden Freddy: Wake yo a$$ up we got lore to explain
😂😂😂
Who is we YOU have lore to explain
@@Love_jataraI agree
I feel so comforted to have Matpat back for a bit, man, his presence just MADE the channel tbh, love the new hosts but yeah, feels different when Matpat's around
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Yup
> h -is pr- e -sence just- MADE the channel
FTFY
I totally believe the "Cassidy Afton" theory. It would explain why William was panicking while being chased by the fifth spirit. It was his own son coming back to haunt him. Any dad would have been terrified by that.
Also, the "hospital" argument. The IV bags might be there, but it's still in the Afton household, therefore, Afton could have experimented on the body of his son after he died.
One thing no one has considered though is, who the fk would name a boy Cassidy? 😂
@@LordOfElysium Cassidy has actually always been a unisex name, for both boys and girls!
@@LordOfElysium Most boys with the name typically shorten it to "Cass" or "Kass" to my knowledge.
@@LordOfElysium What? I wasn't talking about anyone going missing, I was saying that Boys who have the name Cassidy tend to use shortened versions of it rather than the full name.
If you watch the original video it even more convincing if you watch the video on their channel even a few holes theory that comes with most theories
I can't wait for them to respond to HyperDroid's Crying Child name theory.
MatPat: "I'm retiring"
Scott: "You'll be doing this till your 90"
love the refrence
@@jodotchi Which reference
@@umbrellacorporation7028 it's a line in Deadpool and Wolverine
Honestly, the flatline kind of works with DPT's theory, since it wouldn't just go off if the child is dead. If Afton did take the Crying Child out of the hospital to try and get his soul to live on as Golden Freddy, disconnecting him from the life support systems would also cause them to flatline. And the fact that it happens immediately after he says "I will put you back together" seems pretty damning.
Yeah but that definitely feels like a BIG stretch with little evidence
As someone who monitors cardiac monitors in hospitals, this makes sense to me. We use a 5 lead and removing even 1 lead can cause a "flat line" even if the patient is totally fine
Yeah but it'd also alarm the employees, immediately, cause they'd hear it
Then again it was in the 1980s so, hm....or he was taking CC off life support for 'a funneral' or smth idk
@@torinokami8431 you also need to acknowledge that flatline=dead is a stretch too. cuz what it’s mean is that heartbeat moniter has been disconnected. and that’s that. either 1.dead or 2. disconnected but still alive.
Not really, think about who we’re talking about here, William Afton. This man set up a plushie that talks to his son to keep him safe and make him feel better, and not just one, but like 10. He talks to CC throughout all the Fnaf 4 mini games so that CC doesn’t get hurt. After finding out he’s hurt, almost dead, he would be desperate to bring his son back no matter the costs
Matpat: I’m retiring
Fnaf lore: oh no no no, we’re not done yet.
@@MokPlexcornball
@@z_Ultron at least I don’t identify as 5 genders 💀
@@MokPlexok, but did we ask for your opinion 🤔🤔
@@KETCHAAA534 you don’t need to ask.
@@MokPlexI don’t think that’s how it works bud.
before i saw this video i had watched a video solving the theory in only a few minutes, the crying child's name is "Dave"
Matt: I'm retired now
Also Matt: *proceeds to work*💀
He wants 1 million dollars
He’s like Hayao Miyazaki of Studio Ghibli lol everytime he says he’s retired, he ends up coming back. Legends just can’t stay away from their craft
@@zboy019Given that he and his partner were co-leading a massively popular group of youtube channels, i’m sure he has more than that, haha
He’s not working fam he’s doing his passion
Haha I'm not complaining
21:46 hearing them say the iconic line together is actually the hidden gem I didn’t know I needed
@NTR-m6tnga what the fu
@@albertyt824don’t respond, just report the bot
@NTR-m6tMonster
@NTR-m6thello, a furry here. Please commit the act of jail
I had an out of body experience it unlocked something in my brain
I think what could be viable instead of Cassidy being kidnapped from the hospital, is William and his spouse brought him home for a kind of hospice. If the Sister Location area was established by this point, it would make it a lot easier for him to steal Cassidy away from his bed instead of from a hospital.
If he was in a coma and hope was gone for him, it's arguable that the Aftons might have been able to get the equipment to monitor him at home. It isn't unheard of, just uncommon.
My mom's a nurse who has worked a lot in hospice and indeed it is quite common. Especially when the patient is in their final days and prefer to spend them at home.
I'm pretty sure DualProcess even bring that up as a possibility in their video.
I think that would make way more sense Than him somehow sneaking his kid out undetected
Hear me out crying child is in purgatory where he relives the animatronics hunting him that’s why we could end back up that’s why no hears the breathing and footsteps they are loud and we can’t yell for help if we could would be out of this mess that’s also why nightmare is only in fnaf 4
Yeah, Dual Process already talked about it in their video
That "NOOOOOOOOO" when Tom heard Banban made me roll on the floor laughing 😂😂😂
OH NO!! MatPat mentions Psychic Friend Fredbear at 13:09 without singing the theme song!!!
I know 😭
It must be someone pretending to be Mat
IMPOSTER HE WAS TAKEN OVER BY ENARD
Wow matpat, wow
He *is* retired... mostly.
Now, I'm not a professional, but I had a thought. Maybe not every kid that gets killed can successfully possess a suit? So there could be so many more deaths than we could be aware of, basically untrackable ones. Making counting kills kinda useless, as all that really matters to us is successful soul trapping/transfers/etc. Not well flushed out, and I'm sure others have thought this, but just a thought I had watching this.
That's makes sense 😮
If that’s the case then what specifically made the four special enough to posses?
That’s highly unlikely because it’s been determined that remnant will cause the soul to possess whatever it is. And if the remnant gets in the suit we know where that leads
@@knightM1Aagony would it not be like there’s so much agony that they bind the to metal and try to get revenge
@@knightM1Acould've just been a fluke, or maybe the kids got lucky(or unlucky in their case)
I really like Tom and the energy he brings to the channel. But hearing Matpat's voice again on this channel is so comforting and hits right in the feels
Tom is ok but i will always like matpat more
yesss it feels so nice.
Gonna be real the only reason I even came back was cuz matpat was in it
9:48, its very easy, the lights went out because the spirits arent haunting the animatronics anymore, cassidy is in the afterlife with afton. ofcourse her light would be out.
20:45 I love how in one line is only written "balloon boy." like literally never made sense in fnaf 💀.
“ness’ dark past” 💀
It's also the only line on the list with a period.
@@finixmoon127 It was just a waiter... or was he? 🤨
Obviously in the second movie of fnaf he's gonna be the antagonist for sure, even worse than William
I mean I think there is nothing special with BB. He was just a weird idea Corporate came up with to give kids balloons. Also Scott just had a bad idea for the design that also made Foxy harder to deal with. I wish it was a little Pirate guy, maybe a Kit?
Well if you’re going with some of their recent theories, he exist because he’s a Hold over of the 1970 carnival/circus theme
Matpat is so lucky to be invited to such a big youtube channel name such as Game Theory. Props to them for noticing smaller creators like matpat
what 😭😭
@@grwm.bellaaaa you dont know game theory?
What?
@HappyDudeOO5 It's a joke my guy.
@@HappyDudeOO5 i do, i'm just confused what the original comment is saying 😭😭
I really like the idea of William just being a crazy killer with no dramatic or reasonable motivation. It reminds me of the first years of fnaf when we didn't know anything and the idea of a madman was out there killing children just because he could do it was just terrifying.
I agree, I'm a bit unsure still what I think because I also like the other theory, But it's very intresting
Yep and more true to real serial killers
@@thewhitesakura597Its tough since fnaf books and movie seem to show hes just crazh
I miss the days when he was just PURPLE GUY and nameless. But just doing it for fun is a little unsatisfying, and kinda reminds me of The Box thing, with Scott changing its contents.
i Really DON'T; IT'S BORING; IT'S UNSATISFYING; AND IT'S LAZY!!
William Afton: I always come back.
MatPat: You're not the only one...
I feel like 100 years from now, grandparents will share their stories about matpat to their grandkids.
Maybe not 100 but yeah, cool thought
*Interior - Museum - Far Future*
Curator - This low resolution gif or jif depicts the early hominid known as Mat or Pat... and here we have a rudimentary pictogram called lol which represents a humanoid figure cheering with arms raised.
I definitely will as half of my lifetime is stuck on theories to do with GT/Fnaf etc
(not as a vid tho,maybe a comment or inner thought :( )
Everyone: I thought you were dead!
MatPat: My death was... greatly exaggerated.
word for word
letter for letter
U mean a generic comment with a quote from a movie or show (im not to sure) within thousands of comments?@@Vellicioooo
@@MilosSchutte they copied another persons comment
@@Vellicioooo i saw the comment too but i needed to scroll a fair bit theres a good chance they didnt see thar comment
I feel like it should be mentioned that while yes, dying in hospital would result in the flatline sound, the same could be said about kidnapping his kid out of the hospital. If he unhooked his kid the equipment would stop sensing the body's vitals thus creating the flatline sound until shut off.
Which then contradicts that the plushie would disappear from the Crying Child, as his father would still be there.
@@justinalicea1590I’m guessing you didn’t see the other theory
Did u not watch the video
Also let's not forget: Flatlining only indicates that the BRAIN has ceased to function... His heart could still have been beating. His _body_ could still have been alive until he was taken off of life support. And since the brain was the part that got chomped, it makes sense that it would stop first. I could be wrong here, idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@DezAmmySel wrong way around
Sooo.....now that we know that faded text is called David... we know that the second kid in golden Freddy is David. Right?
Just some small points to add on.
The "ladies-in-waiting" line is preceeded with "I am your ladies-in-waiting". Which is odd grammatically, but does indicate a multi soul animatronic can use singular tense like "I" or "me" as well as multiple tense.
The ghost having tears being the indicator of Cassidy is complicated, because Charlie's ghost is also depicted the exact same way in the Fnaf 2 Puppet Death mini game, as well as the other kids you take cake to in the other minigames leading up to Happiest Day. As much as it complicates telling the souls appart, they all seem to be depicted the same way in those mini games.
mini theory that may just be entirely over complicated, dual process theory proposed that the fnaf 4 minigames are Cassidy/crying child reliving the days leading up to his death, so what if the hair in the suit is actually him inside of it? Seeing a vision of his fate mixed with his passed memories? Also, for the love of the gods, there is only one light in the golden freddy suit and this is driving me insane, the lights in the suits are clearly represented by those glowing rings around the eye, the "other light" is just the light illuminating the interior. If there's two spirits in golden freddy then there must be two in normal freddy and bonnie too because we can clearly see light in their other eye, even chika sort of, this is just how light works guys. If there were two spirits there would be two light halos in both eyes. If anything Cassidy/crying could entirely be the vengeful spirit because he could have survived the hospital but his dad pulled him out for whatever reason. I would also like to point out the fact that the IV drip, flowers, and pills doesn't need to mean he was in the hospital, they could've been brought to him in his own house because William didn't want Cassidy/crying child in the hospital for whatever reason, those could all literally just be beside his bed.
I honestly thought I was the only one noticing the glowing ring thing tbh. And you make a good point on William moving those things to his house, too.
Finally somebody mentions the light thing, the fact that nobody has mentioned that really got on my nerves.
Until you can explain how the rest of the heads don’t have their lights making the interior glow, then I’m not amused by you trying to simplify FICTION that can be as detailed or mundane as the creator desires
I HARD AGREE on the light thing.
dude i've literally been saying the thing about golden freddy only having one light on since fnaf 3 and i havent seen anyone else corroborate that ever
13:00 Here's the thing tho, if someone just DISCONNECTED from the monitor, it would be a flatline sound too. And the dialogue after can be imagined like this: He pulls him out of the hospital and claims that he will put Cassidy together
They get unplugged when they die too
@@bonD6002 But that doesn't really matter either way because the flatline whether it indicates no more heartbeat or whether it indicates it has been unplugged would be the same.
The Crying Child literally disappears between darkness after the sprite "gives up". That looks like dying to me. Also, the fact that the incident occurred in broad daylight, you know... Like, the theory is cool, but it does not make much sense for him to be the 5th.
13:30 mats rebuttal to your rebuttal (while a bit weak) still points out a flaw.
@@Elle_Brielle_Elletbh it would still make sense with their theory, when putting him together william would end up killing him anyways
There’s one thing about this especially that keeps me from believing it. It’s “the one you should not have killed line” that was said to afton and William never killed his child so Cassidy would have to be someone else because even though crying child said what was happening I don’t think he’d be so vengeful to his own father. Also I know names don’t have gender but Cassidy just seems like an odd name for a male character but I could just be naive on that one but still I can’t see Williams own child being so vengeful to his own dad considering he’s supposed to be the good natured one.
I cant believe game theory is supporting smaller creators like matpat, so amazing
Us: You promised to stay away!!
MatPat: I LIED!!
It’s like beetlejuice, you say fnaf 3 times he automatically shows up
"I always come back"
The coordinates that give us the text “it’s me Cassidy”
Exactly, and he’s saying “it’s me” to Mike
Gotta say.. love the dual theorists (pun intended) episode.
Can't wait to see what Tom does with the whole "dave" long solved but missed theory
William Afton: "I always come back"
Matpat: "as do I"
how does this not have any replies??
@@MRJakeyBro bro I agreed
Matpat has returned again!
Yeah
Here before this blows up
He isn't, it's just one video
That he has
Bots
I’m so happy to hear MatPats voice in a theory video again
Very true
I agree
scott watching this just yelling wrong