Visiting Asko Hedmark's electric trucks, 400 kW Kempower and solar panels
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that kWh is... 1337. Shows how Elite Tobias is! Confident and competent young man.
The most impressive bit is just how normal it all looks. And how little it impacts the drivers day. Excellent video.
If anything it improves the driver's day. Imagine coming from this and moving somewhere where you were breathing cancer causing fumes as part of your work every day.
@@geirmyrvagnes8718 absolutely agree. And it feels modern too. We are used to plugging in stuff so a truck is not exactly pushing boundaries any more. Just a different plug. But no fumes, little noise, virtually no vibrations. No disruption to the working day. No downsides that I can see.
@patrickjr11 I sometimes work with heinous chemicals for research. We have to be serious about the risk assessment. Nothing we ever do is comparable to the health implications of filling diesel with bare hands, unprotected eyes and just turning slightly away to avoid breathing the worst of the fumes... If this was invented today... No way!
@@geirmyrvagnes8718 for sure. They whole petrol diesel fuel would be very hard to sell in the modern world if it was new technology
Thank you Bjorn. I love how mater of fact the switch to fully electric trucks is being done in Norway. Once again the leader. Your driver, Tobias, is a credit to Asko. Confident, no nonsense, cheerful, clearly well trained and trusted with an huge vehicle at 18 years age. What a great example of a young man at the start of his career. These two things, the electrification of their trucks and the training of the next gen leaders shows the foresight of Asko. I am impressed.
Hey Bjørn, there is a german new TH-camr called "Elektroktrucker" who drives through Germany with different electro trucks and explains how it work's, so similar to your video here.
He worked for Tesla and has a Start-Up for charging at home or in the office.
Would be awesome to have your and his knowledge combined in one video!
On longer trips he also charges att regular EV chargers for cars, that usually works remarkably well.
@@Acamperfull correct. Always interesting to see if the cables or the charger are able to deliver the 300kW and how EV the cabins and software of the new trucks are.
Looking the new channel Elektrotrucker. Very interesting!
The new Mercedes e-Actros 600 can actually do these long-haul routes now too!
It has a 621 kWh LFP battery with a 590 kWh useable capacity, 500km range with a full 42-ton load and 720 000 km battery warranty.
As it can charge at 400kW CCS (1 MW later with MCS) a driver can drive it for 4.5 hours and then fill it up almost all the way back to full again in the 45-minute rest break (or all the way to full if you make the stop 1 hour instead of 45 minutes).
Considering drivers can only work a certain amount of hours per day and that you need time to load/unload the truck as well, this means these trucks are already viable to work essentially 24/7.
You are a little bit to optimistic.
@@stefanrus4723 Absolutely not. Have already seen trucks with slightly less range and charging speed being driven this way, so with something like the eActros 600 it's more than possible.
There are electric trucks in Norway (Design Werk) that is in normal routes continuous (driver change and charging at gates) doing 16000km a monthly. Only charging at 300kW charging speed. 1MW batterypack
@@stefanrus4723why are you saying that?
New Volvo FH has a 600km range. Getting close to the maximum distance a truck driver does in a day already. The savings will be massive for a haulage company with hundreds of trucks
The Iveco S-e way is the GOAT at the Moment
Norway just getting on with it while everyone else is arguing.
I'm amazed with Norway. everything looks neat, well mantained, clean...I imagine drivers here in Spain havig to lower the charging cable with that system and complaining for everything...too slow, not haired for this work, bla, bla , bla....and the cables dropped in the middle of another truck's way, instead of putting it under the truck clenale and with a smile, as the young driver does......we are way back from Norway in so many aspects...and we think always we are the best.....thany you for your videos Bjorn so we see another way of living is possible
I'm also Spanish and I agree with you 100% 👏👏👏
You don't need the MCS for delivery trucks. But look for the german youtuber "elektrotrucker", he is charging in every 45 minute break and drives up to 800 km a day on his truck.
Well considering this is Norway and it can get up to 40 - celsius and heavy snow for 6-7 months a year range might be alot different
I can see the advantage of an ev truck in the loading bay in a closed space without build up of Harmful Diesel fumes. Good stuff.
Asko is showing the future. I worked at Asko a long time ago driving, and there is no other companies in Norway that has the possibility to scale this as Asko is doing in therms of green energy and sustainability. Posten is trying, but they are milestones away. As soon as the goods have arrived at the terminal (from fossil trucks and low cost drivers), they are trying their best to be the best in class. The amount of money they spend on this has to be outrageous, but then again, Norgesgruppen is the real big mafiaboss of the norwegian foodmarked. Solar panals, own dieselsuppies, CO2 silos for the cooling unit, electric trucks and charging stations, warehouse management. I'm curious how they will solve the problems of distribution of the northern part of Norway in the future. Here, diesel will still be strong for many years if they don't build battery swap stations or big chargers scattered around the map. That would be the start of long hauling possibility for the electric trucks. When they achieve that, me personally, might also buy an electric car :D
Great Asko! Thanks for showing us around.
I had the chance to be in person, all the way from Brazil, to see this amazing case. AMAZING!
Very interesting topic.
Here in Germany there is the TH-cam channel “Elektrotrucker” which covers the topic of Long Haul trucking.
TH-cam auto-translate subtitles are great if you don't speak German and want to watch them! 😊
They should make some collab :P
Jep, very interesting channel. A collaboration would be great!
Seems like a great company, very innovative!
This is bloody amazing. Congrats on Norway
Where is the banana box test video? :-D
0 in the frunk
25000 in the trunk !
Im a canadian trucker with 20+ yrs experience. I do long haul between the usa and canada.
My average trips are 5000 to 6000km a week.
Electric trucks do work quite well for local work and short distances.
For now diesels are the only way for long distances but someday that will change.
But the charger network will need to be in place first.
Cool video. I enjoyed it
For very long distances, the train is the best. Though the infrastructure to load / unload may be too weak at the moment...
Electric trucks can replace around 80% of semis on the road with current battery density, so why not start there? Pepsi is already putting over 1000mi/1600km on their Tesla semis in one day, and they regularly do 450mi/725km trips fully loaded on a single charge. It will take many years to build enough electric trucks and charging infrastructure to replace that 80%, by which time battery chemistry will have advanced to the point the remaining 20% can be replaced as well. The limiting factor to switching to electric semis is how fast they can build out the chargers, both on-location (all that's needed short term) and on highways. It's not limited by capability. If we could snap our fingers and have enough chargers and trucks, 80% of diesel semis could be replaced today with electric semis using today's tech.
Very nice driving from this guy
e-tron jokes are ze best
Interesting content! Norway is really a view into the European future in e-mobility 👍⚡️
Glad I have seen this. It shows how far behind we are in the UK :-(.
It also gives us a pathway to do the same! So much for "Electric Trucks Can't Work On My Run."
Im a Norwegian trucker and it basically only works for big big companys like Asko, Rema1000, Coop and some other huge Companies. For the small guys like me it still sucks as public charging for big rigs is absolute shit. All these companies have inhouse charging. And they are like twice the price of a diesel truck so still loooong way to go
In the future I'm sure stores will also get chargers for the trucks so you can charge while unloading at the stores. This would extend the range of these trucks even more.
esp as (esp retail) stores already have typically 22kW 3phase (big red plug) per truck stall to keep the optional coolers for the food running in the trucks.
@@davepermen Those are useless for charging a truck. They would have to install proper DC fast chargers of 150kW or more at least. But they only need one or two of them depending on store size. Most stores in Norway are small enough they only have one truck unloading at a time anyway.
24:00: "Not a Kempower design"
Not true, the gray charge boxes is a product delivered by Kempower. It is a satellite for depots and garages, and is intended to be mounted under the ceiling.
Its a specialized Kempower box, and called control unit. Its a customized standard cabinet box👍
Bjørn must have be a very respectful man among someone in ASKO so they let him join a real trip with the truck.
More of this trucking stuff please.
Banana box winner, by far !
Thank you, a brilliant video showing what should and IMHO will be the future globally.
Thanks for pointing out that for most use cases no MW charging is required for road transport. The usecase for MW charging is most likely things like shipping or the gigantic mining trucks. But thanks to the 4.5h drive time and 45min break makes it no problem to do longhaul!
7:36 it's like a E-tron 😂
Look at Norway so smart Producing oil but not getting high on their own supplies !!
If you want it, we will sell it to you, but we don't want to breathe that crap.
Vertical solar is great for winter up North
South wall in winter with snow on the ground in front of it. Excellent.
so nice that ASKO A/S are doing the green thing realy great job so many companyes can learn of them
We have the great content from Elektrotrucker here in germany. Elektro Truck long haul in germany, 750km per day, without distance limitations.
Excellent documentary style.
I spent 2 years in Melhus in Trøndelag - in our Rema 1000 and Coop EXTRA there are TOO MUCH of expired products and goods on the shelves of supermarkets, many of them are still laying next to good quality products and sold for the full price. Some of the expired goods , after being already expired- still on the shelves and sold with only 40 % discount.
For instance , 7 years ago in United Kingdom a Yoghurt with 2 days left to expire date was sold with 90 % discount.
same in Portugal....before the expiration date, they put a color sticker and a discount. I think some supermarkets even have an aisle with products at the end of "life"
bananas dont have expiration date... thats some bureacratic bs... but yes selling them cheap is a good compromise
The next phase: trailers made out of solar panels
That'd definitely be handy when converting those freezer/cooling trailers to electron juice 😁
Nice idea but wouldn’t that be too heavy? With all the weight regulations?
That ironically only makes sense on diesel trucks. Energy from a diesel engine is effing expensive, so that solar panel pays for itself. With cheap energy straight from the plug, you are better off sticking that panel on a building somewhere and not dragging it around.
Hope we will see more of this infra in the future.
super cool to see!
I think ASCO have trucks with about 1MWh from switzerland. They have been in operation for more than one year
Bjorn about the consumption: "This is not to bad. It's like a E-tron" 😂
7:21 Konstant farts holder
In Finland “ASKO” is a furniture company. 😊
Its crazy. The amount of food waste we generate. If you take all the "labelled expired" foods, which are still genuinely edible you could feed a massive portion of the people on the streets.
the way they mount the solar panels on the roof is interesting....seems like a turtle, probably way more protection from wind and avoiding heavy and expensive structures!?
East/west orientation and enough angle to let water run off. Simple. You would get more energy by facing steeply south, but as you say the wind load would be bad, so you start worrying about putting that whole structure on the roof. This just works.
Wow, those cables are looonnnggg for high power charging. Any figures about extra losses due to cable length and high currents?
it must be around 10% for sake!
For example I found a CCS cable rated for 375 A from phoenix contact that uses 4x50 mm2 of copper for cable (total 100 + 100 mm2 for DC current). That gives total cable resistance of 0,000355 ohm/m. If the cable has 50 m, total resistance is 0,018 ohms.
Power loss in cable is equal to (total resistance) x (current)^2 = 0,018 x 375^2 = 2500 W. At power of 260 kW (700 V x 375 A) that gives cable loss a bit lower than 1 %.
@@AlvisePeltreraLeoneProductionshilarious 😂😂😂
19:24 Vertical panels make sense almost everywhere. Photons are bouncing all over the place.
Great video! 👏👏👏
The IDL power is probably power used while idle/stationary, is what I'm guessing.
Norway: huge distances and very cold winters. This sounds like nightmare scenario for EVs but they are showing the world that excuses are just excuses ❤
While that is true they also have lots of mountains which makes it kinda dumb not to at least recover the energy from the downhills. Hybrid is the minimum reasonable vehicle, otherwise you just hate your brakes.
Nice video Bjorn. I like the trucking videos.
Coming to Finnmark soon!
more like this 💪
A 25% buffer is massive!! Wow why so big
Banana-box test, FTW 🙋♂️🕺🏼
LIKE if you want Bjørn to do a bananabox test with the truck😊!
I'm guessing vertical solar panels also require less cleaning
Interesting
i drove those trucks for years want to see my tummy,seriously how is it in the snow
I would have asked the "kid" if he played Eurotruck Simulator and American Truck Simulator a lot, before he decided to make it his job? 🤔😎👍
I did not play those games, idk why i decided to work as a truck driver, but i wantet to try it att school and it was werry fun so thats pretty much why
@@tobiasj.mellum9319 😊 Cool! Maybe better that you didn't play those games. 😉
@@tobiasj.mellum9319 awesome. keep on truckin! 🚚
@tobiasj.mellum9319 Congratulations for being an AWESOME trucker! 👏👏👏😁😁😁
Fascinating insight into the future of the trucking industry. Is there any information from Asko about the ROI for their investment?
The food mafia (Norgesgruppen) is going electric.
They might be a cartel, but haven't gone fully mafia yet.
Their 2.4 GW of solar = 1.8 million km of driving
(2.4m kWh / 1.337 kW/km)
*GWh
**kWh
Per year.
Banana box test next!
thx 🤟
"Bring" muss es schnell bringen!
😉 it actually is the same word (stem) in several languages: "bringen" in German, "bring" in English, "bringe" in Norsk and Danish, "bringa" in Swedish
Apparently the truck has the same “problems” with axle load as other electric trucks.
Do different limits apply in Norway, or is the axle overloaded?
It's crazy the amount of waste of perfectly good food by supermarkets.
"IDL" after 8.10 is probably energy used for idlling
In Finland they export bio diesel material from Italy with cargo vessels. That is so ridiculous it cause me a brain cancer.
It's surprising that Norway wastes food that is quite edible, instead of selling it at reduced rate, at the store. It doesn't fit with the economic use of energy to waste it!
Where is the consumption Table and the 1000km test? ;-)
This is the future guys. Prices will come lower especially the Tesla semi and Chinese.
Bjorn looks old in the video! 😆
Interesting. So available battery is way less, probably to enforce minimum degradation. You can charge 100% and probably you are really at 75%
Wait a minute! It is not chineese? Wtf!!? Electric viking will be disappointed!
I personally find his coverage to be pretty representative. China has easily one half of all the new EV innovations coming out right now, so it's not weird to be giving these things coverage.
Even if from a political standpoint you'd rather not have a dictatorship stand for such a large portion when the rest of the world is so behind in EV investment they have kind-of brought this on themselves.
I think it honestly might be a good thing he does these pieces of coverage, because I think if politicians realize they're starting to fall behind China, that might be what actually pushes them to start investing in EVs more.
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Those battery stats at 3:09 seem strange. 624kWh installed but only 468kWh usable? That's a huge buffer on the battery
That's how you make a battery last for millions of kilometers.
Could be due to cycle life requirements
With the big buffer those batteries can charge up to 100% with full power.
Charging at 500A until 98%SOC👍, then dropping the last 2%👍
The corporation will save alot going away from dinosaur fuels.
Does marcusbil still sponsor you Even when they are bankrupt?😂
So that truck has more kWh available than installed, really..?
Maybe it's a kind of modular battery where you can leave half of it at home when you only drive shorter trips. Saves weight and energy.
14:16 twice as a fat e-tron😂
My fat e-tron has a (still staggering) 265W/km powerdraw for the last 10k. 5x less...
[Edit] not 4, even 5 times less
0.36 horsepower per km?
That is correct. Crazy compared to a modern EV.
Mine is from 2021. Audi's first try😂
Crazy isn't it? Tesla is far below 200.
But I suppose you already new that
I liked to see this 'higher power' video, Kempower, tech behind the scenes, and E-trucks. Nice addition to your channel
All ære til ASKO !!!